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And then we'll also be 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,000 previewing the London Diamond League, which will be taking 40 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,080 place this weekend. Preet will have boots on the 41 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,600 ground coverage at that meet. But first, before we get into 42 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,960 all of that, another World Cup update. 43 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:40,720 Preet, how are you feeling? England plays on Wednesday? 44 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:47,960 As of right now, your deal with the Devil about a World Cup 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,240 victory for for England over a Josh Kirkeley Hodgkinson world 46 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,920 record at the London Diamond League seems to still be in 47 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:58,120 effect. Yeah, it's going well, isn't it? 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,480 But yeah, I mean, the match the other day was, was it Saturday 49 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,400 night was an absolute. It was very stressful. 50 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,040 It was not, it was not a fun watch. 51 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,960 England did not play well, but they they squeaked out the 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,520 victory. And yeah, it was, it was, it was 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,840 stressful. It was a late night. 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,600 It was, yeah, it wasn't fun. But hopefully we seem to play 55 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 well in alternate games. So hopefully we'll then play 56 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,920 well again in the semi final against Argentina, which which 57 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:30,640 obviously is a bit of a tougher, well, probably likely to be a 58 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:35,200 tougher assignment against Lionel Messi, the world's best 59 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,280 player. But yeah, that would mean if we 60 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,840 get through we'll play badly in the final. 61 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,240 So I'm not sure I want to entirely subscribe to my theory 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,920 of them playing well in alternate games though. 63 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,000 The funnest thing World Cup theme that I thing that I saw 64 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,200 this week was there was 1 Norwegian fan who refused to 65 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,600 partake in their rowing celebration. 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Yes, I did see this. And he got interviewed and the 67 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,960 reason why is because the Vikings sailed across the 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Atlantic and they did not row. And so he is dedicated to 11th 69 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,040 century transport accuracy and refuses to participate in the 70 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,160 rowing celebration. And then he he went viral like 71 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,320 with with some interviews on some of the the British news 72 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,320 channels and stuff talking about this. 73 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,640 So that was quite fun. It feels like so many people 74 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,240 jumped onto the Norway bandwagon. 75 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,400 I think for me, I would. I was, I was rooting for them, 76 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,000 to be honest, because I had spent I think like a night or 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,680 two watching Erling Holland's YouTube channel. 78 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,360 And he does. He's a hilarious athlete and so 79 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,280 that won me over. I mean, it seems like the with 80 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:47,720 the fans when they were here in New York, they were doing the 81 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,600 row and all that kind of stuff. That definitely energized some 82 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,840 folks. But yeah, even Jakob Ingebritsen 83 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:58,880 had an Instagram post where he was rocking the Norway jersey, 84 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,880 but just was not enough. Norway and just sort of like 85 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,560 their youth sports development has been just sort of in the 86 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,240 headlines a bunch because of how young this team is. 87 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,080 And so it's been really fun, I guess for people for I guess the 88 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:21,520 greater sports ecosystem to catch up and start realizing, I 89 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,720 guess, something that we've been attuned to for so many years 90 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,720 because of Yaka Binga Brits and and his development and success. 91 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,480 But yeah, I've seen that being a topic of discussion. 92 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,840 I believe Kyle might be writing about that in the Lab Count 93 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:39,520 newsletter this week. But yeah, Norway couldn't, 94 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,240 couldn't pull it off. So yeah, it's it, it I guess 95 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,920 seems like the best four teams are the ones that are left. 96 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,360 If you could have made the case that, you know, Norway was with 97 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,680 Holland, probably one of the the the stronger teams. 98 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,080 But this was I think I've seen it equated to the equivalent of 99 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,360 like all number, all four number one seeds in a March Madness 100 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,120 bracket making it to the final four. 101 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,760 And so we should be in for some good games. 102 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,240 I'm like already trying to think of like what's gonna cause here 103 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,720 in New York, I guess we just had the Knicks and then right into 104 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,680 the World Cup. And I think the next big thing 105 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,240 that maybe we catch a little bit of sporting fever for will 106 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,560 probably be like the the US Open. 107 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,520 And then it maybe like takes us very nicely all the way through 108 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,320 to the to the ultimate champs, which I guess will be the next 109 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,800 big in person event, the well, global championship event that 110 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,480 that I'll attend. But US championships will be 111 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,600 next week. We're going to have a Sidious 112 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,040 mad crew for that. We'll we're going to have a 113 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,080 group run here in New York City out of Central Park on Friday 114 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,160 morning with New Balance and then a couple other events. 115 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Also, I believe we're going to have a Sidious mag New Balance 116 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,480 cheer zone or a cheer section in the sands as well. 117 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:01,600 So it should be a good time, but we'll do a full US as preview on 118 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,760 next week's episode. So let's we've got tons to catch 119 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,160 up on, but even I guess first I want to just drop a quick 120 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,680 Congrats to Sidney McLaughlin Livroni and her husband Andre 121 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Livroni on the birth of their daughter Savannah Michelle 122 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,840 Livroni. Also congratulations to Emma 123 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,560 Bates and Steve Finley on their son Warren Emerson Finley. 124 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:32,040 So got a lot of running track babies that have come into the 125 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,280 world within the past two weeks. And so really happy for all of 126 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,680 those couples that, yeah, you know, it's, it's a beautiful 127 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,480 thing. And so this is, this is the year 128 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,640 definitely we're getting a little bit of a running baby 129 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,880 boom going for sure. Yeah, absolutely. 130 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,840 Congratulations to them. And Beatrice Chabet has had her 131 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,840 baby as well. Yeah, yeah. 132 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,200 So there's lots of amazing athletes to to come in the 133 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,920 future. I imagine in give it give us 134 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,800 181820 years time and. We'll be talking about those 135 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,480 those kids on this podcast. Exactly. 136 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,560 Let's get into the Monaco Diamond League. 137 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Let's start off with the world record, which was Emmanuel 138 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Agnoni running 211.83 for the 1K, breaking No One Guinea's 27 139 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,920 year old world record of 21 or two 1196 that was set back in 140 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,720 1999 in Rieti and this was when Yuni's first ever 1K. 141 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,600 It's an event that's not really, I guess Monaco's now had I 142 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,679 think, a little bit of an obsession with the 1K over the 143 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,400 last couple of years, but I don't need my personal 144 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,560 preference. I would have loved to have just 145 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:49,560 seen another 800, but we're going to see another one in 146 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:52,800 London. So when Uni gets the world 147 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,520 record, Jake Whiteman was second to 1277, a personal best that 148 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,280 moves him to I believe it's #5 all time. 149 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,240 They went through 451, six, 800 and 145 flat. 150 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,640 And then I think the, the, the coolest part of this race was 151 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,440 the fact that for the, in the final 150 meters, the lights 152 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,840 were ahead of Emmanuel Manoni. And in that final hundred is 153 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,200 it's not all that often that we see an athlete let the lights 154 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,200 get away from them and then they reel them back in, in that final 155 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,040 100 meters. And so when Yoni clocked 13.1 156 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,080 for that final hundred after those pace lights initially went 157 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,520 ahead of him. So it looked like maybe there 158 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,480 was a little bit more in the reserve that last 100 meters. 159 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Crazy impressive, but yeah, kind of expected. 160 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,080 I just, we know he's strong because we've seen what he's 161 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,640 been able to do in the 1500 and we know he's crazy fit because 162 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,880 he had already run 142 earlier in the season. 163 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,880 And so he's taking these incremental steps, I think to 164 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,240 time it so that he runs his fastest time at the end of the 165 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,160 year, which is something that he's done really well over the 166 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,240 last couple years. And so now it's just sort of 167 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,840 like, all right, and he's talking a big game about, you 168 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,400 know, trying to inch closer to to this world record. 169 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,240 And London is going to be a real big opportunity for that Preet. 170 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,200 Yeah, exactly. I mean, this was I, I really 171 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,000 enjoyed this race. I think it had a lot going on, 172 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,600 not just, you know, not just at the front. 173 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,400 I mean, we didn't necessarily get to see everything that 174 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,640 happened at the back because the the cameras were were focused on 175 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,680 when you're new and white men. But yeah, it was, it was, it was 176 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:38,800 a great race all the way down. I mean, I think that world 177 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,360 record, I think if you look at the 1000 meter all time list, 178 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,040 it's kind of a who's who no ¥1. For, for people who don't know 179 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,200 the name, is the person who beat Ishmael Guruge at the 2000 180 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Olympics. Very famous upset #2 on the all 181 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,880 time list before this race was Sebastian Coe. 182 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,040 So poor old Jake Whiteman, who's run one of the fastest times in 183 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,000 history, does not get the British record. 184 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,080 He did get. He did move ahead of Steve Cram, 185 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,320 though. He did get yes, he did move just 186 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,000 ahead of Steve Cram and then Mohamed Tawi who who made a he, 187 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,200 he seems to like the 1000 meters, but and he he came, he 188 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,000 ran really. He made an attempt at the world 189 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,440 record the back end of last season but just missed it and 190 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,560 round 2/12/25 he had a bit of a mare in this race and he kind of 191 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:31,880 went out hard and then died after about 500. 192 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,600 His season, I have to say, is one of the strangest seasons 193 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,440 I've ever seen in my life. He won the world indoor bronze 194 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,200 medal. He came out outdoors, won the 195 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:50,080 Continental Tour gold 1500 meters in Finland in 331 and 196 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,200 then he ran 3 diamond leagues where he placed 9th, 8th and 197 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,880 10th in Oslo, Stockholm, Oslo and Paris. 198 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,560 Didn't break 145. Then take him out of the Diamond 199 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:09,360 League, he's fine again and he wins a meeting in Fry Bergen 144 200 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,280 and then goes back to the Diamond League and in 1000 201 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,360 meters comes 10th again. So he doesn't seem to get be 202 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:21,240 able to place higher than Eighth Diamond League or to run well, 203 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,760 which which is a very bizarre place to be, but there we are. 204 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Well, I think Bryce Hoppel's Diamond League results are also 205 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,960 pretty similar. He comes away from this one at 206 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,680 least, like with the personal best for the 1K outdoors. 207 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,800 But you know, he's been racing a bunch and I don't think he's 208 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,280 been able to crack 144 so far this season. 209 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,960 And so I think it's just continuing to get that exposure 210 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,800 to racing and he's hoping that to kind of turn some things 211 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,440 around. Similarly, I guess, like Donovan 212 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,560 Brazier just got the win this past weekend out in Memphis. 213 00:12:55,560 --> 00:13:00,760 So no one has looked as good as they had about a year ago. 214 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,000 But again, like this is such a different year where the stakes 215 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,320 at USA is are not, you know, you got to be top three and you make 216 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,120 it to the World Championships that people have been taking 217 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:19,080 their time just sort of getting to that peak level of fitness, 218 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,000 although, you know, we'll come on to it. 219 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,000 I think when we mentioned a couple different folks, but you 220 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,840 know, the rankings are starting to take shape for the World 221 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,840 Ultimate Championships and so there is still quite a bit of 222 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,400 racing left this summer. But not everyone has looked as 223 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,920 sharp as they did 12 months ago. But someone like Mignoni 224 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,360 certainly looking I think pretty damn sharp right now. 225 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,360 And to kind of, you know, pair in a little bit of the London 226 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,720 Diamond League that's coming up, like we can, you know, preview 227 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,360 that race. This will be the second time 228 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:00,280 that we get Marco rope versus Emmanuel Wynoni so far this 229 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,480 season. The time before this was Oslo 230 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,600 where Cooper Luckenhouse got the best of both of them. 231 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,120 But that one I think most people kind of remember as Cooper and 232 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,160 and Wynoni as like the photo finish. 233 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,560 But Marco was a little bit further back in that one. 234 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,400 Marco did end up running 14184 to win at the Paris Diamond 235 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,240 League, and then this past weekend quietly goes out just to 236 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,160 meet in Edmonton and goes out and runs 14213. 237 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:36,600 So now that both of these guys are getting pretty sharp, I am 238 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,560 encouraged. Here's the thing, it's like 239 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,360 everyone wants to see both of them in the race whenever 240 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,600 someone does end up breaking David Rudish's world record. 241 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:53,360 But that again, a reminder that world record is 14091 when 242 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,360 Yoni's personal best right now is 14111. 243 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:04,280 So maybe the thing that both of them are looking for is OK it, 244 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,360 it could come in September at the Ultimate Championships or it 245 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,400 could come at the Diamond League final a little bit before that 246 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,560 'cause they still need, you know, some extra time to 247 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,640 continue building fitness. If they can just get a little 248 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,120 bit closer and come away from London with APB, this I do think 249 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,120 presents itself as a pretty good opportunity. 250 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Yes, I mean, London is the track where Rhodesia ran his world 251 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,600 record, right. So yeah, it it does seem and and 252 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,080 I think it probably also helps having a Max Bergen in the race 253 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,920 because there's a decent chance that he might go to the front 254 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:45,680 and push the two of them in the last, you know, last 2300 when 255 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,440 you know, the pace is pace has gone off. 256 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,000 And you know, I mean, I wrote looks like he's in very strong 257 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,640 front running shape at the moment as well. 258 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,320 So I think between the those three are rope when you're Nyan 259 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Bergen. I think they will definitely be 260 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,720 working together to make this a quick race. 261 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,040 I really hope. And that should be that should 262 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,600 make make that race really interesting. 263 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 But are there a couple question marks around Max Bergen's shape 264 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,160 right now? Because he's he is ranked #3 in 265 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,600 the world. He got the win in Rabat earlier 266 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,120 this season, but I think he's kind of been Mia since. 267 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,520 Yeah, he scratched a couple of meats. 268 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,280 So yeah, there is a chance he's not in like 100% shape. 269 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:29,640 But Max Bergen is one of those athletes that time and again, he 270 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,680 he's very fragile. But when he steps on the start 271 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,800 line, he is always ready and he somehow managed to pull out 272 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,280 these performances. You know, there's, there's 273 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,440 numerous years where he's opened the season at the British champs 274 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,560 and, and run amazingly. He I think he opened the season 275 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,480 the London Diamond League once and then LED everyone to and run 276 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,800 a 143 or something. You know, he he's that kind of 277 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,320 athlete and yeah, so I I wouldn't put it past him to come 278 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,120 out or guns blazing again here, but or at least give it a try, 279 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,079 right? If nothing else, he'll go to the 280 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:07,880 front, give for a little bit, go give the crowd something to 281 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,119 cheer about. And that might also help the 282 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,760 other guys with with closing in our world record. 283 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:20,000 You think Jake Whiteman sends it in this one and and and tries to 284 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,200 be close to someone like like Max Bergen, because he I kudos 285 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,640 to him. He ran that race against when 286 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Yoni very boldly and like went men hung on for as long as 287 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,080 possible and he's he's had a really, really good season so 288 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,560 far. Yeah, absolutely. 289 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,520 I mean, I think this is this is The funny thing, right? 290 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,920 Jake Whiteman is not someone we think of as a time trailer, 291 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,880 right? He is definitely not that. 292 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:46,880 He did. I did hear him talking about how 293 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,840 he thinks 1000 meters is probably his best distance and 294 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,840 as an 815 runner, that that is unsurprising. 295 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,640 An 815 runner of the calibre of Jake Whiteman that that probably 296 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,320 is, is going to be better. And, and you know, when you only 297 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,400 is similarly, he is an 815 runner. 298 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:08,080 He's not a four 8 runner really. So I, I, I do think that, you 299 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,440 know, but I think Jake looks in incredible shape and I, you 300 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,840 know, I, I think he could run, you know, 143 low. 301 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,000 Can he run a 142? Maybe, but I think he will like 302 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,320 this. This race is like it's a free 303 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,920 hit for him. It's just a bit of fun in front 304 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,480 of the home crowd. I I also think he will be quite 305 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,000 careful because obviously he has the Commonwealth Games of 306 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:36,600 following week and that's really big for him being in Scotland 307 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,560 and him being Scottish and he wants to do both championships, 308 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,560 He wants to do EUR as well. So I think, but I think he does 309 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,720 seem to be setting himself up to maybe do the 800 meters at the 310 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Europeans. So we'll see how that pans out. 311 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,200 Firmly a metal threat in at the con games, right? 312 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,520 Yeah, absolutely. Like he's in such good shape. 313 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,800 I mean, obviously, you know, you've got Timothy Chariot, 314 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,960 you've got Reynold Chariot, you've got Cam Myers, you've got 315 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,120 Josh Kerr and you've got Jake Whiteman. 316 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:11,840 Those are probably the big boys in that Commonwealth Games mile 317 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:19,280 as it's currently shaping up. And yeah, that that promises to 318 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,680 be a great race. But yeah, Jake's in amazing 319 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,280 shape. We obviously don't yet know what 320 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,480 kind of shape Josh Kerr is in over a mile, but we will most 321 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,760 definitely find that out on Saturday. 322 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,600 What's the category for the Commonwealth Games when it comes 323 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,160 to bonus points? I don't know off the top of my 324 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,480 head. I think it does get a higher 325 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,920 right. It's not the same as a 326 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,960 continental championships, but it is. 327 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:51,440 I think it's like an A or AB level meet. 328 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,640 Joscar is going to need it. Well, so yeah, so that that that 329 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,560 was one thing I was looking at. He is not. 330 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,200 He is not anywhere close to qualifying for the World 331 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,880 Ultimate Championships because he has not run a 1500 meters 332 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:09,360 outdoor the season. Or indoors I think. 333 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,160 I don't think he ran any. You need 5 performances. 334 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,400 Yeah, exactly. So he he needs to get running 335 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,600 some races and yeah, he's he doesn't, doesn't have the 336 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,640 performances to do it. And I think yeah, because he 337 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,160 obviously he didn't even run the final in Tokyo. 338 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,720 So or he did run the final, but obviously that's not going to 339 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,400 really get many points. Sorry, but yeah. 340 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,520 But don't forget, you also got the buys that will be granted, 341 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,280 you know, to Sebco's favourites. Remember, like there's that 342 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,000 backdoor entry. Yeah, but what if Sebco has to 343 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,240 choose between Josh Kerr and Jakob Ingebritsen? 344 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,320 What is he going to do? Well, OK, let's let's hit the 345 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,600 folks with the quick Jakob Ingebritsen health update, which 346 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,200 is a segment we haven't done in a bit. 347 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,680 It doesn't sound great, but his Instagram tells you otherwise. 348 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,640 He's posting tons of workout content and there's clearly a 349 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,120 crew that's, you know, been filming with him and 350 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,600 photographing him. But I think the latest thing 351 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,000 last week at some point was that he was down bad with a illness 352 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,840 and that he is not running the Norwegian championships. 353 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,560 I didn't necessarily think that that would be his first race of 354 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,160 the season. It's, you know, he's he only I 355 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,440 think really runs the Norwegian championships when he's got to 356 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,200 check a box for global championship qualifying, 357 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,680 although would have needed some, it would have got him some good 358 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,200 points. And then I think his agent also 359 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:46,160 said that the European champs would be or were were not 100% 360 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,080 in the cards yet either. And so there's a, there's a 361 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,120 question mark around Jacob again, because he, you know, I 362 00:21:56,120 --> 00:22:00,320 think we were told a couple updates ago that July would be a 363 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,840 crucial time for him to decide whether or not he was going to 364 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,560 be running. So yeah, I mean, there's a 365 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,200 chance we we don't see him race till next month, even August. 366 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,840 Yeah, that, yeah. And I can see him skip. 367 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,960 I mean, if he runs anything at Europeans, I suspect it'll be 368 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,760 the 5K because I'm not sure if he's even going to be qualified 369 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,120 in the 15. He has to run some fifteens 370 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:27,240 beforehand if he needs to qualify, while the 5K he does 371 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,080 have the qualifying standard from Worlds. 372 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,240 So yeah, I don't know. Although actually, is he the 373 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,600 defending champion from 2024? I can't remember for what for 374 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,800 European Championships 1500. He might be, in which case he 375 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,960 does have a wild card and he can just and he can just rock up, 376 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,360 but. I would think Seb picks Josh 377 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:57,600 over Jakob given the fact, well, one, fellow Brit and two, I also 378 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,080 think that, you know, he's running the London Diamond 379 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,560 League, so they'll be he's racing at least and there's more 380 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,840 signs by the time a decision has to be made. 381 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,000 So yeah, we'll come on to more on Josh in a little bit. 382 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:19,680 All right, so so are you thinking they get closer to 141 383 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,560 super like low in this London Diamond League? 384 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,320 I do think that I mean the weather is shaping up to be 385 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,120 pretty decent. Yeah, give us a weather update. 386 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,760 What's the latest? So a few days ago I looked at 387 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,400 the weather and there were thunderstorms because we're, 388 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,200 we're going through another heat wave at the moment. 389 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,280 And it looked like it was supposed to be like a 10 day 390 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,920 heat wave and it was going to break, you know, Friday, 391 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Saturday of this week. And so we were going to get, 392 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,240 there was a high likelihood of thunderstorms. 393 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,040 That appears to have now changed. 394 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,160 When I look today, it's it's looking decent. 395 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,240 It's looking a little bit cloudy, but it's still going to 396 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,840 be a decent temperature. 2720, you know, 24 to 27°C. 397 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,320 I don't know what that is in Fahrenheit, but yeah. 398 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,240 So it's a decent weather, warm but not crazy, and a bit of 399 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,120 cloud cover so it should be pretty good conditions for 400 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:18,280 running quick over distance. 27 Celsius is 80°F. 401 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Yeah. So I think that's where it's 402 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,400 topping out. But yeah, we'll have to keep an 403 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,560 eye on that because it's very changeable at the moment. 404 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,360 And yeah, we just, yeah, you just don't want to get in that 405 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,680 window when the weather breaks and it it just turns for the 406 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240 worse. But yeah. 407 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,160 All right we will see if they inch closer to David Rudish's 408 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,720 mark. Personally, I think that the 409 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:48,280 world record, you just got to always remember just how 410 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,400 incredible Rudish's world record is. 1 no super spikes, 2 no 411 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,120 pacemaker and three, two races already under his legs with the 412 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:04,520 heats in the semi finals. Just yeah, someday, like records 413 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,120 are meant to be broken and they will fall. 414 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,520 But just that race is absolutely brilliant. 415 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,440 I think I I've said this many times on this show, it's the 416 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,160 race I pull up sometimes when I want to show Someone Like You 417 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,600 want to see the perfect race. This is it. 418 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,680 And that's truly what it is. So it's not the most thrilling 419 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,600 or entertaining race because you know, he, he wins it pretty 420 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,240 definingly, but it is the perfect, the, the best executed 421 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,600 race. So I have, I think I typically 422 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,360 pull used to pull the 2008 US Olympic trials 800 final for 423 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:45,280 like my favorite race. Now you can even pull the 2025 424 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,480 US Championship 800 meter final as like a super the entertaining 425 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,560 one but or the Paris 1500. So the my answer has definitely 426 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,080 changed over years, but the perfect race still reduces 800 427 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,520 world record. Yeah, but I but I think that to 428 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,600 that point, right that there is now you know he did that in the 429 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:11,120 in the Olympic final and I think, you know, there is a case 430 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:15,680 for with super shoes with the lights with. 431 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,440 Bicarb. Yeah, by carb with also the fact 432 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,200 that if, you know, this year they don't have one eye on a 433 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,280 global championship, right. They don't like in 2024 when 434 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,800 they're running these times, they still had one eye on the 435 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,760 Olympics or they were tired from the Olympics. 436 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,120 So I think this time and when you're new, obviously, yes, he's 437 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:43,960 just had a baby. But you know, I think now, like 438 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,800 from what he did in Monaco, he looks like he's in pretty good 439 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,600 nick. He'll have had time to recover, 440 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,440 you know, a few days. Marco as well, like 2 amazing 441 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,680 races back-to-back showing he's in fabulous shape. 442 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,200 So getting them together at the peak of their powers in that 443 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,840 stadium, I think there's a decent chance something really 444 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,480 special happens here. This episode of the Cities Bank 445 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Podcast is supported by Bandit. There are athletes competing at 446 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,880 the championship level who make exactly $0.00 from the brands 447 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,520 whose logos they wear on the start line. 448 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,720 Bandits Unsponsored Project flips that. 449 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,040 Let's learn more. All right, we are here with Tim 450 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,760 Rossi, the head of experiences at Bandit, because Bandit is 451 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,200 coming back with the Unsponsored project for Year 4. 452 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,640 Tim, Why does Bandit continue to show up for unsponsored athletes 453 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,080 in track and field? Yeah, Chris, stoked to be here 454 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,920 talking about unsponsored project Year 4. 455 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,480 It's crazy that this initiative we started in 2023 is on Year 4 456 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,200 now. I think the main reason that 457 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,680 we're burning this back and and continue to invest is it 458 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,840 continues to serve a need within the sport. 459 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,480 The the top top of the athletes in the sport of track and field 460 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,440 are getting taken care of and making a great amount of money, 461 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,560 which is absolutely awesome. We love to see that. 462 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,760 But there does still continue to be this need of raising the 463 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,280 floor for those athletes that are pursuing the sport at the 464 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,320 highest level, but maybe haven't had that breakthrough, maybe 465 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,600 have went through a rough patch in terms of injury or 466 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,720 performance for a year or two and are just falling through the 467 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,040 cracks of the sponsorship model that we have right now. 468 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,200 So the unsponsored projects coming back supporting some of 469 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,640 those individuals competing at US outdoors that don't have a 470 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,160 brand support in them right now. So what is an athlete get when 471 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,640 they join in Bandits unsponsored project? 472 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Yeah, so it's grown every single year, which is really cool. 473 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,280 But we talk about the key pillars. 474 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Cash is the least sexy thing to talk about, but also the most 475 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,240 important for athletes. A lot of the time we just have 476 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,280 cash as part of every single one of these agreements. 477 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,640 The athletes can use that on whatever they want as part of 478 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,920 this agreement. Generally speaking, we try and 479 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,560 have that cover, ideally travel costs, housing, potentially some 480 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,200 additional cash into people's pockets depending on what hotel 481 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,640 they're staying in or something like that. 482 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,960 But travel for this meet is super, super important to cover. 483 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,640 Then the unbranded gear has become a huge part of this as 484 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120 well, so that the athletes can demonstrate that they're 485 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200 unsponsored when competing on the track. 486 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760 The release clause is an extraordinarily important part 487 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,040 of these agreements where athletes are free to be released 488 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160 from our agreement should another brand come with a 489 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,040 traditional sponsorship model at any point during these 490 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,520 agreements. And then a platform is the last 491 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,840 thing we really want to promote and talk about these athletes 492 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,760 and their amazing stories and really brought them up within 493 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,200 the sport for the amazing performances that they are 494 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,720 putting together and and how high of a level they are 495 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,280 competing at. So those are the four key things 496 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,120 that we talk about within these agreements. 497 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,000 How can they find it? Yeah, that's a great question. 498 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,040 You said it right there. This program and this support is 499 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,840 targeted, right, for individuals planning to compete at the US 500 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Outdoor Track and Field Championships. 501 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,320 Stoke that it's in New York this year. 502 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,400 And right now, the best way to get in touch with us would be to 503 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,120 reach out to the bandit support e-mail and those individuals 504 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,640 will connect you with me. That's 505 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,560 support@banditrunning.com. So if you're planning to compete 506 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,760 at US outdoors, I'd reach out there. 507 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,040 I'll be proactively reaching out to people. 508 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,960 It's not, again, the fanciest thing in the world. 509 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,840 Maybe check your DMS if you're an athlete that's looking at US 510 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,720 outdoors. But yeah, reaching out to 511 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720 support@banditrunning.com is the best way to get in touch right 512 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,520 now. For more on Bandits Unsponsored 513 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,720 project, stick around at the end of this episode. 514 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,680 All right, let's move on over. To the women's 200 where Julian 515 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:42,440 Alfred clocked a 2151 to beat 200m Olympic champion Gabby 516 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,800 Thomas. It was a personal best for 517 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Julian by .2 seconds Meet record, World lead national 518 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,480 record for Saint Lucia moved her to #3 on the world all time list 519 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,440 only behind Flojo's world record of 2134 and Tarika Jackson's 520 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,480 2141 from the 2023 World Championships in Budapest. 521 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,680 The depth in this one off the bat was probably one of the best 522 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,600 races on the in the whole program for the meet 'cause you 523 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,720 had Julian Alfred, you had Gabby Thomas and then of course you 524 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,800 also had Deja Hodge who ends up finishing second in 2176. 525 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Gabby was third. 2184 for Gabby, she sets the record for the 526 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,600 fastest 3rd place finish in any women's 200 ever in history. 527 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,080 She already had it to be fair. From the Toy Olympics. 528 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,800 Yes, I sure. Had it Olympics. 529 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,600 Was 2187 I think for 3rd and this is 2184 for 3rd. 530 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,920 So she breaks her own slightly unfortunate record for for the 531 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,720 for the fastest 3rd place finish, but. 532 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,040 Yeah. So for this one, it's not a 533 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,120 total shock that Julian Alfred was fully capable of this 534 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,680 because her personal best before this was 2171 from last summer 535 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,240 in London. And that one came with a little 536 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,800 bit of a headwind as well. If you do the conversion on one 537 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,320 of those wind calculators that's out there and you removed the 538 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,520 wind and she would have run 2166 in still conditions is what it 539 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,200 is, what it projected for last year's performance. 540 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,720 And so, you know, this one same thing playing with with that 541 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,880 calculator converts to 2159. So although the improvement was, 542 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,600 you know, a tiny bit, it all kind of aligns. 543 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,600 And so the thing that many people just kind of forget is 544 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:48,080 Julian's potential in this event, because at the Olympics, 545 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,920 this is where I mean, this race, essentially. 546 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,640 I think when we texted Kyle if he was going to join the 547 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,720 podcast, he couldn't make it. But he did say one of his takes 548 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:02,200 was he, he kind of viewed this as Julian's revenge on Gabby for 549 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,880 the Paris Olympics. Because we really, I guess, 550 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,720 hadn't seen the two of them in full form since Paris. 551 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,560 Because last year Julian did run well during the summer. 552 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440 But when she got to the World Championships, she did withdraw. 553 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,960 She withdrew from the the 200 after earning A bronze medal in 554 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,320 the 100. And even that silver medal at 555 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:33,360 the Paris Olympics came after Julian had run 3 rounds of the 556 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360 100. I remember just even that first 557 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,840 round of the 200 was like the morning after her Olympic gold 558 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,800 medal in the 100. And so it's playing revisionist 559 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,920 history. Like does a fresh Julian Alfred 560 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,520 end up being like winning the gold medal in the 200? 561 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,120 If that was like the only event that she would have gone for, 562 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Who knows? But I guess now we're we're at a 563 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,240 time where this is may it like shaping up to be one of the best 564 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,280 events of the whole entire year where you do have Julian Alfred 565 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,800 now in full form. You have Sharika Jackson back in 566 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,360 form. Melissa Jefferson Wooden is very 567 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,760 solid right now as well. Gabby's healthy, Adagio's 568 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,000 healthy. That's five people, three medals 569 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,920 at the Ultimate Champs. And so, yeah, I mean, this is 570 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,440 going to be one of the best events. 571 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,199 And we know that that Budapest track is is fast because that's 572 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,239 where Sharika's time came from, you know, just three years ago. 573 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,280 So this isn't a total surprise. And I don't necessarily know if, 574 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,600 like, this is, you know, the best. 575 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,480 We'll see this year. Well, interestingly, we are 576 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,080 going to see Julian run on that Beta Pest track tomorrow. 577 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,639 She's running against Elaine Thompson Hara in 100 meters, so 578 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,120 that's quite exciting. And we get the Gabby Julian. 579 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,719 And then we get the gap and then we correct, yes. 580 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,640 So it's a busy, busy week for Julian, but I think we are and 581 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,600 mentioning Elaine, we are very fortunate at this moment in time 582 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,200 that we have six of the top ten women in the 200 meters in 583 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,320 history active all at the same time. 584 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:16,520 That is Julian, Elaine, Gabby Thomas, Melissa Jefferson 585 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,440 Wooden. And who am I missing? 586 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,240 Sharika. Sharika, of course, yeah. 587 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,800 So, yeah. So, you know, and and we're 588 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,720 going to get five of those six women and a Deja Hodge, of 589 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,000 course. Yes, that's the other one. 590 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,040 So we're and we're, and I don't think Elaine's going to run the 591 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,280 200, but against all these women. 592 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,440 But I think there's a fair chance we get the other 5 593 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,640 running against each other in Budapest. 594 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,600 And that, that would be pretty epic if we get that, especially 595 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,560 on that track. Really quick some kudos and 596 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,080 someone to watch out for is Kayla White, who finished just 597 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,360 behind Gabby in this one and she ran 22 O 4. 598 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,120 She's been stringing together some really solid like runner up 599 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,440 finishes robot Diamond League then I think at the the Lone 600 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,920 Star Grand Prix. And so I think like when we see 601 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,400 these crazy fast times, it's easy to kind of just look at all 602 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,680 right, first, second, but not too far down those results. 603 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:30,760 Now you're seeing and her PB is 22 O one from the 2023 US 604 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,160 Championships. So that might be, you know, time 605 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,840 it might be time for something like that to to come down for 606 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,120 her. So yeah, I mean, I just wanted 607 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560 to, I, I noticed that I was like, wait, all right, like 608 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,240 don't don't overlook Kayla White as well. 609 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:49,080 So it's still, I think, unclear who's going to be running the 610 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,800 200 at Usas. For someone like Gabby Thomas 611 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,360 and Melissa Jefferson Wooden, they already have their spots 612 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,920 secured. MJW as the reigning World 613 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,520 Ultimate World champion and then Gabby as the Olympic champion. 614 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,680 Both of them have their spots. So I haven't started scrolling 615 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,840 through that, that nightmare of a website for the USATF 616 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,240 declarations, but I'm sure there's already some people, you 617 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:22,160 know, populating on there and being entered there. 618 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:28,200 But I'm excited to see just sort of like how if Gabby's able to 619 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,080 beat Julian now that she knows what to kind of expect because 620 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,320 typically Gabby when she comes off the the curve in first 621 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,720 place, no one's catching her. But this time around, man, it's 622 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:46,560 just been the the clothes that Julian had and also and a Dasia 623 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,760 as well. You give them more room and 624 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,920 they're just powering home. And so we'll be curious to see 625 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,840 if she chooses to run it a little bit differently. 626 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,400 Yeah. I mean, what's interesting, I 627 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,000 mean, we know that. So Gabby has only broken 21/8 628 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,400 outside of Eugene once in her career. 629 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,280 This is a Aaron Brown storyline that I think like he loves to to 630 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,720 pedal. No, but I mean, well, I mean, 631 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640 look, she is one of the best 200 meter runners in the world and 632 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,800 breaking 22 seconds as frequently as she does is very, 633 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,680 very impressive. But you know her two fastest 634 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:29,200 times, 21/6 at the US Champs in 2023 and 2161. 635 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,360 At the Olympic Trials in 2021, those are two fastest times. 636 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,440 She did break 21/8 for the first time outside of Eugene this 637 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,520 year, and that's at the Lone Star Grand Prix in Texas. 638 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,000 Yeah, have you seen the video of that one again? 639 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,640 I mean this is again with with 200 meter wind readings. 640 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,360 Yeah, it was wind legal, but if you watch the video of it, the 641 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,920 flags are going pretty crazy. Yeah. 642 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,840 So look, I, I think Gabby is one of those athletes that is 643 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,760 supremely consistent over 200 meters. 644 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,320 And to be honest, as we, as we said, right, 2184 that she ran 645 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,880 in Monaco is the fastest 3rd place time in history. 646 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,960 You are going to win the vast majority of 200 meter races 647 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,640 running 21/8, right? And Gabby's able to do that so 648 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,480 consistently and, and so that that is her superpower. 649 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:28,880 But obviously, yes, if she comes up against a Sharika Jackson or 650 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,520 a, or Julian Alfred at full strength, or even a Melissa 651 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,480 Jefferson Wooden at the full strength of the 200, now it's 652 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,200 going to be a bit trickier to, to, to beat them. 653 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,760 And that, that's where obviously she has to to see what she can 654 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080 do. I think later this year we'll 655 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,440 probably see a race where the records for fastest 4th and 5th 656 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,640 place finish also get broken because of, you know, if you 657 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,600 just take, you know, all those women that you named before and 658 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:02,800 line them up like it's a fight. And so yeah, it'll be super. 659 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,760 Expensive. Yeah, we're going to have 660 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,280 Shawnee Miller, Weibo who's who's making her way into the 661 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,840 mix as well, that 200. So that's another exciting name 662 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,360 to to add in there. Not really doing me any favours 663 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,520 with my preseason prediction that she was going to be the 664 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,160 second best. I, I, it was such a weird, bold 665 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,240 prediction and so specific. I was like, Oh yeah, Shawnee 666 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,520 Miller Reed was going to be the second best 400m runner in the 667 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,560 world this year. She hasn't run a 400 yet and. 668 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,480 She hasn't. I don't think she's going to go 669 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,400 back to it. She seems to be pretty content 670 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,560 in the 200. She's also totally abandoned, 671 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,840 like the multi events when she teased kind of that idea as 672 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,720 well. Yeah. 673 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,360 So that field for London this weekend is drilling out for Dina 674 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,280 Asher Smith and Navy battle success, Edwin, Amy Hunt, 675 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,800 Shawnee Miller, Weibo, Cambria Sturgis and Gabby Thomas. 676 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,040 Really good one. Yeah, I mean, watch out for 677 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,480 success, Edwin, who obviously hasn't run in a field this 678 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,480 strong in her career, but she's she beat Amy Hunt at British 679 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,040 trials, She ran down Tereka Jackson at World Relays. 680 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:09,200 She's like 20. She's like, she's like 20, maybe 681 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,160 22, she's 22, but she's having a breakthrough and I think her 682 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680 time is going to come down massively when she gets in the 683 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,720 right race. So this could be it if she 684 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:24,440 doesn't get stuck with lane one. Sticking with the sprints, I 685 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,240 want to move over now to the 400. 686 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:36,560 Colin Kedman and Shippy Personal best 4344 moves into a tie for 687 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,240 six fastest of all time with Matthew Hudson Smith, I believe. 688 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,720 And the most impressive 1 of this is the most impressive part 689 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:51,320 of this race is that he was in 6th place I think off of the the 690 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:57,720 final turn and he closed the final hundred in 11.28 seconds 691 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,520 ended winning the whole race by half a second. 692 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,200 Corey Patterson was the runner up in 4396. 693 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:13,000 Rye Benjamin 4413 and 3rd 6 men broke 44 seconds. 694 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,360 And I think that's the first time that that's ever happened 695 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,320 in a race. And yeah, I mean, I think it 696 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,680 Kevin Ishippi is just so, so much fun to watch because of the 697 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,880 way he closes out these races. And now again, I guess I think 698 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,400 people are starting to get throw him into, I think the world 699 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,080 record conversation, especially if you need him, you need him to 700 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,600 line up with Samuel Legazzi right now, which that hasn't 701 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,720 happened yet. Preet a couple weeks ago, I 702 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,320 think we edited out, but I think you kind of fantasized that 703 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,360 match up happening at one of the Diamond Leagues. 704 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,440 And so it still hasn't been announced for any one of them 705 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,560 yet, right? No, I don't think so. 706 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,760 And he is now going back into training. 707 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,200 So he's not in the 400 at London. 708 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,000 And he he kind of posted on his Instagram, I think that he's 709 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,240 going back in training for the then come back at the end of the 710 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,520 season, which means I, I assume we will see him at the sort of 711 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,280 post European Championship diamond leagues and in about 712 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,280 months, you know, over a month's time, yeah. 713 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640 So what do you make? I guess like of, I mean, the way 714 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,800 Kevin Shippy runs these races, I mean, he's. 715 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,640 Sit and kick, it's a sit and kick 400. 716 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,600 It's beside it's bananas. Absolutely. 717 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:32,800 I mean, look and and you know, you get people who you know who 718 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,000 run, you know who, who you know that this you know, they are 719 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,320 better at even splitting a 400 than they are going out hard. 720 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,600 And you know, then they, you know, some people have to, you 721 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:50,200 have to run 21 second, you know, 22 second 400 and you can close 722 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,520 it in. Yeah, Benny Kurtz that 1st 200 723 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480 split was 21 ish. Yeah. 724 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,800 Yeah. And I think that's that's often 725 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,440 the way people run because with the 400 and the lactic like when 726 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,600 you get to the end of the race, it's not it's who is slowing 727 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,160 down the least rather than anyone who's accelerating Now, I 728 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,600 don't think cabinet shippy. Also, I don't think he's he's 729 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,760 accelerating, but he's definitely slowing down a lot, 730 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,880 lot, lot, lot, lot less than anybody else. 731 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,080 But it also does look like that he does accelerate at some point 732 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,400 in the middle of the race. I mean, we saw that like the 733 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,760 most extreme version of that the pre classic. 734 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,400 This time, I think he he realized not to take it easy 735 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,080 against Rye this time. And he had Ryan Jacory Patterson 736 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,360 kind of near him as well in terms of lanes. 737 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,200 So I think it was a bit easier for him to gauge. 738 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,040 And he he just knew exactly, you know, he got that judgement bang 739 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,200 on and, and did exactly what he needed to do. 740 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,600 And yeah, all these guys behind it's just incredible, right? 741 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,600 Like Attila Mullner in 7th place got Hungarian national record 742 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,680 and personal best, but you know, 4447. 743 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,600 So it's it was a fast race all round. 744 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,200 And like for someone like Matt Hudson Smith, we've been raving 745 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,160 about him running 44 two, just three years ago. 746 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,800 And the world has kind of moved on a little bit in terms of 747 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,400 people running 43 seconds with ease. 748 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,400 But that Kevin R Shippy is just on another planet right now. 749 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,360 And I, I think you do, I agree that if you put him in a race 750 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,880 with a Ghazi, I think he's going to know he needs to do a little 751 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,840 bit more. And I think he inches closer to 752 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,600 that, to that world record. Yeah, he'll, he just needs to 753 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:42,200 experiment with the faster 1st 200, but not voting all too well 754 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,200 for my world ultimate prediction about Rye beating him there. 755 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,800 But still have hope. We'll just have to see. 756 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,160 And this weekend, I think at this point, right, like what? 757 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,720 Jerem's a world championship medalist, Matt Hudson Smith's an 758 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:04,040 Olympic medalist, and Rye has beaten both of those guys. 759 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,840 So Rye has Rye. I think they just confirmed it 760 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,320 not that long ago. He will be running the 400 at 761 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,640 the US Championships. They also confirmed Noel Lyle is 762 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,600 going to do the one and the 2. Tara Davis Woodhull is going to 763 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,360 be running the 100 hurdles and doing the long jump. 764 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,320 So those are some exciting things taking place here in New 765 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,480 York City next week. But yeah, I'm, I'm I'm loving 766 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,240 just sort of like looking at seeing who's who Rye has beaten 767 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:36,520 so far. And I think this weekend in 768 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,880 London he will get exposed, I think to Byapo and Dory. 769 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,560 I think for the first time. I don't think those two guys 770 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,254 have ever raced each other head to 771 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:04,160 So it's I think just as good of a field as has the Monaco 772 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,680 Diamond League and offers up an opportunity for Rye to maybe get 773 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,720 his first 400 Diamond League victory because, you know, he 774 00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,560 was just shy at pre and then third place here in Monaco. 775 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,720 So it's not easy. But and Jacory Patterson is 776 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,280 still kind of just trying to remind people he's he's the top 777 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,840 American right now. So he had a really good showing 778 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,680 as well. So we get Rye versus Jacory 779 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,440 again in London this weekend, touching on Messiah Russell. 780 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,080 Her season of dominance just continues. 781 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:45,400 She her the five fastest women's 100 meter hurdle times of 2026. 782 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,640 All belong to her. So it's at 12:14 in Xiamen, 783 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,800 12/20 this past week in Monaco. She ran 12/24 in Eugene, 1225 in 784 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:05,520 Kachao, 12/26 in LA Yeah, it's she's it's I I don't know, like, 785 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,240 again, we keep bringing up just sort of all these people inching 786 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:13,120 closer to world records. I just don't know, like, when is 787 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,600 her next chance going to be? Tomorrow in Budapest. 788 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,240 I think she's set to race there, right? 789 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,600 I think she is, yeah. So she's just on a hot streak 790 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,320 right now. She's not running the US 791 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,000 championships. I did see that. 792 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,680 So I think she's getting in a good block of racing this this 793 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,000 week. It might be what doing this 794 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,560 Budapest race and then getting back into to training for a bit. 795 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,640 Because if you're not doing Usas, then I think most needs 796 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,520 kind of take off for the next week or so. 797 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,040 So we'll see. This is this. 798 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,840 This will be her next attempt. I think we someone brought it up 799 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,520 in the cities Mac group chat that it's just sort of like when 800 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,960 she comes off that final hurdle, she's just got to I think like 801 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,800 go for it. I think a little bit more. 802 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,160 She's starting to not necessarily celebrate, but she 803 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,280 knows she's, she's winning. And it's just it, there's that 804 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,240 little bit of relaxation that happens when you know you've got 805 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:16,400 the victory. And to get that world record, 806 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,800 which is 1212 right now, it's, you know, sometimes it just 807 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,280 powering yourself all the way through the finish line that 808 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,720 that's the difference. And so coming off that final 809 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:28,920 hurdle, it's clear that she's winning. 810 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,600 And sometimes that can take just the tiniest little bit of the 811 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,640 edge off. Yeah, I mean I I Messiah as you 812 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,920 as you rightly say, she is just incredible on an absolute terror 813 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,160 at the moment. And you know of the top ten 814 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,480 times in history, she now has 12345 of them. 815 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,000 Got 11 of them 05. Five of the top ten, yeah, five 816 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,360 of the top 10. But which yeah is is absolutely 817 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,680 incredible. And look, we know with 100 818 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,440 hurdles like as we saw in Tokyo last year, she she was clearly 819 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,800 the best athlete in 100 hurdles last season as well. 820 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:14,400 And on the day in Tokyo, she came forth and, but you know, it 821 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:20,880 only takes A1 slight misstep, a slight kind of touch, a hurdle, 822 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,920 anything, you know, maybe the wind, like a slight gust of wind 823 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,520 puts you off your stride. Like whatever it is, it's such a 824 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,800 technical event and it it, you know, and she's obviously so 825 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,960 consistent, but and, and, and obviously at these super, super, 826 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,400 super quick times and, and that's what's so massively 827 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,440 impressive about her. But obviously, yeah, you wanted 828 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,640 to also get it right on the day. And you've got to have the 829 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,080 perfect day to get that, get that world record, which 830 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,160 obviously everyone wants to see her try and get. 831 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:59,400 But I think we, we, we've, we've said this before, I think is we 832 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,840 don't want everyone talking about a world record attempt in 833 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,240 the sprints. It's not an attempt every race. 834 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:07,880 You're running all out, right? Like every race, you're running 835 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,720 all out in a Sprint race. So every race is a world record 836 00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:14,400 attempt in the sprints. If you were to put it like that, 837 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,400 obviously, yes, Masai has a much more realistic chance of 838 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,680 breaking that world record in a Sprint event compared to most of 839 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,360 the other sprints we're seeing right now. 840 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:33,120 But still, like I, I don't like the the idea of billing a Sprint 841 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,560 race as a world record attempt because it is Oh no, really. 842 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,760 Well, like that doesn't really well. 843 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,240 Agreed. I think the only thing that did 844 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,520 stick out to me is just like, I never really thought of Monaco 845 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,560 as that fast of a track for the sprints before this past weekend 846 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,280 when Julian and Masai and Kevin Shippy run as fast as they did. 847 00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:57,640 Obviously, historically we've seen how fast people can go for 848 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,520 the distance races. But for some reason, like, it 849 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,440 never really struck me as a as a place that people flock to for 850 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,240 for the sprints. And then after this weekend that 851 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:09,320 kind of did just, you know, change my my view of that track 852 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,120 a little bit. So yeah. 853 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:14,440 All right. 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Don't overcook it. 898 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,280 All right now I want to touch on just a couple more from from 899 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,920 Monaco before we discuss some of these big bigger races for for 900 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:54,480 London, quick hit on Agnes and Getich running eight O 895 for 901 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,880 the 3K in Monaco. Big personal best meet record 902 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,840 world lead moves to #3 on the all time list. 903 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:08,040 Jess Hall was the one who was pacing through 1600 in 419 and 904 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,760 Ingetic was on world record pace through 2K before. 905 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,320 I think like maybe it started to get to her in the final 2 1/2 906 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:25,480 laps and she ends up missing that 1993 Wang Zhongxiya world 907 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,400 record of. Eight O 6. 11 by just, you know, 908 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,560 almost almost 3 seconds, so 2.84 seconds. 909 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,120 And that's obviously we've we've given some historical context on 910 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,640 that one as one of the most tainted world records in in the 911 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,600 books, because it was that time where many of those Chinese 912 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:51,000 distance runners under coach Ma Jon Rehn were taking performance 913 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,080 enhancing drugs. And somehow those records still 914 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,200 remain, you know, in the books right now. 915 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,400 But the likes of Beatrice Tribet and Faith Kapiagon and now Agnes 916 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,680 and Gettich have taken a crack at it. 917 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,840 And it still was did the test of time. 918 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,040 And so notably, Faith Kapiagon was in this race and maybe a lot 919 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,160 of the pre race attention centered on her trying to go for 920 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,880 this record, but she was never in contention for it. 921 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,240 The only person really don't who went with the pacer was Agnes 922 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:24,760 and Gettich. And so Faith ended up finishing 923 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:32,120 fourth in 824. She cited A hamstring issue when 924 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,680 she lost the mile at the Pre Classic. 925 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:40,640 And we were looking for some sort of big rebound race in this 926 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,920 one. And we didn't, we didn't get it. 927 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,880 In fact, I, I went back and I looked it up. 928 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,200 I was like, when's the last time Faith lost back-to-back races? 929 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,360 That wasn't like, you know, a semi final in a heat that she 930 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,360 just cruised through. And it was, and it is any 931 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,480 distance on the track. It was 2016 where I think like 932 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,480 she lost a 1500 and a 3K back-to-back. 933 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560 So we're not used to seeing this. 934 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,040 And maybe after this performance, there's a little 935 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,160 bit, you know, more of a level of like something's up with 936 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,240 faith. But I think the thing I come 937 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,280 back to is that if there's a year to have, you know, an off 938 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,640 year, this is it. And it's not, it's not great to 939 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,280 see, you know, one of the best in the sport struggle, but it 940 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,480 happens. Yeah, but I think at the same 941 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,200 time I I do, I do think maybe she's just doing this so that 942 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,240 she can have points for the Diamond League final and have, 943 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,880 you know, and also have enough performances for world ultimates 944 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,760 because especially obviously she doesn't run enough threes and 945 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,360 fives. But now she has that. 946 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,120 She has the third performance now. 947 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,000 So that means that she'll get a world ranking because she 948 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,720 obviously didn't win the five in Tokyo last year. 949 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,840 So she doesn't get an automatic bid through to World Ultimates. 950 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,720 So if she wants to race that World Ultimate, she needed to 951 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,640 have the three performances. She's now got the third 952 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,880 performance. She's also got the Anchilli 953 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,760 family in the rankings that I don't see any because she won 954 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,120 that Diamond League in in China earlier on as well. 955 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,120 So she'll be absolutely fine for the while. 956 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,280 You're supposed to see Nadia Badda Claudia in this one and. 957 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,960 Yeah. No, she was not. 958 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,880 Yeah, she was not. Yeah, she was not in this. 959 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,280 But the other thing I wanted to say about this one, I mean, we 960 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,720 obviously complained a lot about the pacemaking last week. 961 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,680 I think this week we can praise the pacemaking both in the 1000m 962 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,440 race for the men, which got us to the world record, and that 963 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,680 very impressive Frenchman who kind of took the second kind of 964 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:53,880 400 and and ran a 11450800 meter and his PBS like 144 points. 965 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,560 So that's quite impressive to do that even splitting from the 966 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,080 front for him. And then just Hall obviously in 967 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,320 this race as possibly the best. I mean, if you want someone to 968 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,320 run 2000 meters, get the 2000 meter world record holder. 969 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,920 That's not a bad shout. So yeah, she she obviously is 970 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,760 the best pacemaker out there for that. 971 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:22,960 Like obviously, and I did, I did think like if if Faith wasn't 972 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,720 going for the world record, would she have just like, say, 973 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,960 OK, well, either I'm not doing it or I'm just going to run the 974 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,680 race rather than pacemake. But obviously Agnes and Getich 975 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,960 must have offered some reassurance that she was going 976 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,920 to go for it, because otherwise, obviously they wouldn't have 977 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,840 been a vast amount of point in in having Jess Hall out there 978 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,840 pacemaking this one. And I think the other take away 979 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,920 from this one is that it seems like Agnes and Getich is going 980 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,720 to stick to the track in these shorter distances for a little 981 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,880 bit longer. I think there is a there's a 982 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,400 chance that we see her make her marathon debut this fall. 983 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,320 But I think when I taped that podcast with her in New York a 984 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,400 month or so ago, I asked her just sort of like, hey, like 985 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,000 what, what do you have planned the rest of the year? 986 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,000 And at that point it her schedule had only really gone 987 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,560 through Monaco. And I didn't, I didn't know if 988 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,560 she was running a 5K or A3K at that point, but. 989 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,160 When you run the third fastest 3K time, you've got, you know, 990 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,880 the chops to stay in the in the 5K for the next couple years. 991 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,320 And so she's still young. I could see her, you know, 992 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,840 running. Hey, yeah. 993 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,000 I mean, like she's she's pretty versatile right now. 994 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,760 And I think that she could be a force in the marathon when she 995 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,000 does choose to move up. But yeah, she's got options 996 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,520 right now. And this is a really, really 997 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,280 good performance. I think like a lot of people 998 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,760 coming off of seeing how fast she's run in the half, how 999 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,400 dominant she was in that 10K in New York or like, all right, 1000 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,600 she's she's ready for the roads. This just reminds you to know 1001 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,240 she can do the track pretty well too. 1002 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,880 So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's quite exciting to see what she'll do 1003 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,080 next, I think. And obviously she's not running 1004 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,640 Commonwealth Games, so she's got a month kind of off now. 1005 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,600 Like I think like a lot of athletes and so it will be 1006 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,080 interesting to see whether she then stays kind of, you know, 1007 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,560 sticks to the sticks to the, you know, goes back to, you know, 1008 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,200 preps for the roads in the fall or whether she she then come 1009 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,120 comes back to a few more track races in later in August. 1010 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,960 I feel like every week I test you on your roster knowledge for 1011 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,320 the COM games and not who. Who is Kenya fielding for the 1012 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,240 5K10K? People that I don't know very 1013 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,760 well is the short is the short answer. 1014 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,520 No one that that kind of stood out to me in in terms of memory. 1015 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,400 And you look at this field and you look at some of the other, 1016 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,880 you know, fields that we've seen over 5K and in the Diamond 1017 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,160 League and they haven't been many Kenyans. 1018 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,600 There was supposed to be 1 Kenyan athlete in the two mile 1019 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,680 last week and she scratched. So it was all, it was basically 1020 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,080 Ethiopians and Americans making it the entirety of that, that 1021 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,560 field. Owen 1 Canadian. 1022 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:23,120 So you know, there's Yeah. So so the Kenyans have not 1023 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,520 really been there on that 5K on the Diamond League circuit. 1024 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,960 Really. So, yeah, wasn't the one I 1025 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,200 remembered. I remember. 1026 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:38,360 Men's 5K took place Dominic Dominic Lobalu won 1252. 1027 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:45,520 But really I I was yelling at my screen pulling for Graham Blanks 1028 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:50,960 who took the lead down the final homestretch and was in the lead 1029 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,200 with 20 meters to go and then Liboli just rallied and reeled 1030 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,440 him in on the inside and beat him by point O 6 seconds. 1031 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,840 So Graham ends up 2nd 12:52. He did close that final 226 for 1032 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:10,920 the final hundred for Blanks was 12/8, just slightly faster than 1033 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,280 Liboli, but not enough to come away victory. 1034 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,240 And as I'm watching it like as I'm processing this race, I 1035 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:24,600 guess like I I maybe a couple weeks ago, I was very quick to 1036 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,080 kind of just toss Graham as like, oh, he's better in the the 1037 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,000 10K, right? Like when we look at just sort 1038 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,920 of the other names from the US in the 5K picture, right? 1039 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:45,520 You got the the big 5 or Parker Wolf, Grant Fisher, Nico Young, 1040 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,400 Graham Blanks and who am who am I missing here? 1041 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,520 There's one more Cole Hawker the world. 1042 01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:01,640 Champ, of course, yes, that that would be an important. 1 And I 1043 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,040 was so quick to be like, Oh yeah, I know Graham's better 1044 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:10,640 suited for he's just like he's strong and he will outlast many 1045 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,960 of these guys and that's what makes him so good at the he 1046 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,280 makes him better at the at the 10K. 1047 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:22,360 But here it's just sort of like actually, no, he can get into 1048 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:28,440 position and all what we've seen in the past is that he can sit 1049 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,160 there and he might fade as everyone accelerates. 1050 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:36,400 But what we saw in Monaco was no, he actually this time around 1051 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,240 kicked. And that final 200 meters, final 1052 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,320 300 was something that I think the many people have been 1053 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:50,200 waiting to see from him. He's 24 years old and he's 1054 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,840 already coming this close to a Diamond League 5K victory, which 1055 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,840 we just saw Grant Fisher get his first one at 29. 1056 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,720 So now think about Graham. He's 24 and already knocking on 1057 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,200 the doors of this. So yeah, I don't think it's a, 1058 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:11,240 it's a crowded US5K picture, but I think from this one, we, we 1059 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:16,600 saw our flashes of the first time Grand Blanc's kicked and 1060 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,000 held his own against professionals because we saw 1061 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,720 this at the college level for sure, but against pros, this is 1062 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,320 this is it. Yeah, exactly. 1063 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,840 I absolutely agree with that. I think, you know, that was that 1064 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,720 was the thing that was most exciting for me about this race, 1065 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,720 that it was the the right kind of race that it's a 1252 race. 1066 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,880 It was they slowed to like 60 fours and then they closed hard. 1067 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,480 And yeah, so it was it was a kind of race where which you 1068 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,760 might see in a championship. It was the kind of close you 1069 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,120 might see in the championship. And it was really good to see 1070 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,520 Graham be really competitive at that. 1071 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:55,640 And yes, his strength might still lie in the faster races 1072 01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:00,320 where he can use his strength. But if he is developing a little 1073 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,280 bit more of that kick, as we've seen with Grant Fisher, like if 1074 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,520 you get to that level that you can do but a bit of both. 1075 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,440 And you know, it's the same story, Grant Fisher that you 1076 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:15,000 don't necessarily have the best kick, but he has one of the best 1077 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:19,080 kicks after running a hard 1st 4 1/2 K. 1078 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,720 And he can also squeeze it from like AK out or whatever or a 1079 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,200 mile out and then squeeze it down so massively so. 1080 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,840 And I think Graham Blanks is kind of similar in that regard 1081 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,440 that, you know, we saw for so many years, Grant Fisher, 1082 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:38,800 despite being the best US5K10K runner, did not win the US 1083 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:43,440 championships most of the time because those races were a bit 1084 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,680 slower, more tactical. And then you had the likes of 1085 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,640 Woody Kincaid or Joe Clecker who were right there and able to 1086 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:55,200 potentially kick by him. So you know, that or, or, or 1087 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,040 just hang on to him and then and then go past him whenever they 1088 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:03,080 felt it was the right moment. And that I think, and then this 1089 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,600 is just a really good sign for Grand Blancs. 1090 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,720 And that same same vein that and maybe he's also learning a 1091 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,760 little bit from he's, you know, we know what an intellectual guy 1092 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,120 Grand Blancs is. He must be, yeah. 1093 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,840 He must be learning from, you know, what Grants done, because 1094 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,200 I'm sure he realizes that his skill set is similar to Grants 1095 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,440 and he must be kind of working on that very specifically. 1096 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,800 Yeah, I guess, yeah. I was just really quick to that 1097 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,160 comment I made before about, like, the first time we saw him, 1098 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,880 you know, flash a kick against pros. 1099 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,520 Some people might be quick to bring up, oh, but what about, 1100 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:47,120 like, the 2024 US Olympic trials where he ended up finishing 4th 1101 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,760 and qualifying for the Olympics? It's like, yeah, but that was a 1102 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,560 1312 race for him like this. That's totally different than 1103 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,520 when you're able to do what he just did and run 1252. 1104 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,280 So yeah, I'm holding firm on just sort of that. 1105 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,440 This is 'cause if you look at all the other races that he's 1106 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,760 run, so this is his fourth fastest performance in his 1107 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,560 career. His his PB of 1248 came when he 1108 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:19,600 finished seventh in Paris. When he ran 1249, he was third. 1109 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,240 That was that was that was actually another really, really 1110 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,680 good race for him. Oslo, another time where he ran 1111 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,840 1249. He was 6. 1112 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:31,560 So this was All in all, his best. 1113 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,680 Yeah, his his his best kick against pros for sure. 1114 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,120 You had another point on this. Yeah, I mean, just just in this 1115 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,840 race, obviously Abdi Noor back way back at 9th in 13 O 9. 1116 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,439 So he's not quite back, but I mean he's never been the 1117 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,359 quickest. He's just had that vicious kick 1118 01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,120 at the end of races. But we really want to see him 1119 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,680 get back to his best eyes up Camellie World silver medalist 1120 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,840 is not having a great season. He was back in 10th in this one. 1121 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:07,040 Kai Robinson went for it and then faded badly and ended up 1122 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,040 11th here. But he's been having a bit a bit 1123 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,600 of an inconsistent season as well. 1124 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,319 You know he's had some good races as well though. 1125 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:16,279 He. Didn't finish last. 1126 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:23,000 No, Alex Yee, world, sorry, Olympic triathlon champion who 1127 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:28,120 was kind of trying to to sort of better his BB of 1313. 1128 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,720 But I think it was a tough hot day and it just went out so 1129 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,279 fast. And obviously he tried to go 1130 01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:37,960 with it. And at 2K, that was him done, I 1131 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,080 think. So he faded a bit after that. 1132 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,960 But yeah, I mean, look, it was it was not a good race. 1133 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,800 We were meant to see Jimmy Gracie in this one. 1134 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,560 And after the Paris race where he just didn't seem to have the 1135 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,680 legs, I think he he obviously must decide to scratch this one. 1136 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,000 But I do hope we we get to see him back to his best before we 1137 01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,200 get to the European Championships. 1138 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,520 Because I think that European Championships 5K10K could be 1139 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:07,360 very, very exciting if if all these guys show up, Le Balu, 1140 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:14,160 Gressier and Almgren and yeah, we kind of really want to see 1141 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:19,240 that. Ye wasn't the only Olympic 1142 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,960 triathlon champion competing in Monaco because the Frenchwoman 1143 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:28,600 Cassandra Bogrand, she competed and actually if you were to take 1144 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:33,360 the two performances, she had a better day and she ended up 1145 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:41,360 finishing 8th in a French national record for the 3K. 1146 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,960 And she beat some pretty solid runners, including Nazomi 1147 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:53,800 Tanaka, Burka Hylam, Francine Neo. 1148 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,200 Kunzi Makunzi. Yeah, Neo Makunzi. 1149 01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:03,520 Neo Makunzi So she held her own and for the for the triathletes 1150 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,960 at this meet, I think people were hoping to see Alex C maybe 1151 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,760 get close, but his PB is what, 1312? 1152 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,840 Yeah, 1313, yeah. Yeah, be a little bit closer 1153 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,560 yet, but it looked hot up there. Yeah, I think that was the 1154 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,880 problem. It was a 5K and it was, it was 1155 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,720 just too hot. And I think he struggled 1156 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,040 unfortunately. But yeah, he's, he is, you know, 1157 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,160 and, and I think we were because he, he obviously he started out 1158 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,040 as a track runner, right? So he is, he comes from that 1159 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,640 background. He he ran his 1313 PB in a in a 1160 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,800 Diamond League, You know he's yeah. 1161 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,200 The humidity was not an issue for Graham Blanks, who I think 1162 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:46,280 in his virtual Diamond League comments credited his training 1163 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,920 block in Athens, GA, for getting him ready for for this one. 1164 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,280 And so he was, he was in good shape. 1165 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,600 I don't believe Grand Blancs is running the US Championships, so 1166 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,360 he will be missing from that. I haven't seen, I haven't looked 1167 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,080 at the distance entries just yet for that. 1168 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,520 So couple other just results to shout out. 1169 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,800 Marlady Paulino won the 400-4867. 1170 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:17,440 She's just racking up the meet record bonuses and and Diamond 1171 01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:19,880 League victories so far this season. 1172 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,840 What else took place on the men's side? 1173 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,040 Oblique. Seville beat Jordan Anthony 988. 1174 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,240 We get that rematch this weekend at the London Diamond League and 1175 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:38,280 you also get Part 2 of Oblique Seville versus Kainsola Ajayi, 1176 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:45,000 who beat him in Eugene. So Oblique settling into a nice 1177 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,520 little stretch of racing here. You. 1178 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,120 Know who else is in the 100 at the London Diamond League? 1179 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:56,000 And this was brought up by someone in our chat was let's 1180 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:02,120 see the Tobogo we need to talk about just sort of he's he's 1181 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,600 he's got he gets a hefty appearance fee, right? 1182 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:09,360 When you're an Olympic champion in the 200, a 2023 world 1183 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:14,600 championship medallist in the 100, you've got enough of a 1184 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,080 resume to get Elaine at these races, especially when, you 1185 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,800 know, sometimes they put, I mean, they put people in these 1186 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:26,080 races who ended up running like 1010 O 5/10/10 sometimes. 1187 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:31,680 So it's not like you're putting in just like, you know, a dud of 1188 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,520 an athlete. Let's see, the tobogo's a 1189 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,080 spectacular athlete. I just think it's time for him 1190 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,520 to stop messing around in the 100 and just commit to running 1191 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,000 two hundreds of these and maybe start to dabble in the 400 1192 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,640 because he hasn't really produced a good 100 meter time 1193 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,280 like on the Diamond League stage at all, right? 1194 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,760 No, it's been a few years. I think he he won a couple of 1195 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,280 Diamond League or he won a Diamond League I think a few 1196 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,240 years ago. What like one of the China ones 1197 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,880 or? No, I think he actually, because 1198 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,680 I saw a clip of him beating, yeah, let's go back to because I 1199 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:14,880 think it was he was second in Monaco in 993 back in 2023 and 1200 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:19,840 in 2024 he won in Rome 987. I think that was his amazing 1201 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,800 victory where he beat, he beat quite a few good people. 1202 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,040 And I'm trying to remind remember who he beat. 1203 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:32,640 But yeah, 2024 in Rome was in August where he had a really 1204 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:38,640 impressive victory. But it's 2026 has been seventh 1205 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:46,400 in Kachau, 8th in Jemen, third in Rome, 5th in Monaco. 1206 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:53,920 Last year it was seventh in Jemen, 3rd in Kekiao or Kachau, 1207 01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:58,640 8th in Rabat, 7th in London. Yeah, it was. 1208 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,200 It's not been a good run. It's not. 1209 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,600 I think meat organizers stop giving, stop giving him a lane 1210 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:12,560 in the 100 and just encourage him to give the 400 a try or 1211 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,720 throw him into whatever 200 you got. 1212 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,320 Not every meat has one. But yeah, I mean, it's just I'm 1213 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,920 not impressed by him and the 100 anymore, so, yeah. 1214 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,360 All right, let's now touch on some of these other events 1215 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,640 taking place at. Can I just give you a quick 1216 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,280 before we move on to move on? I just want to do a quick like 1217 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:36,320 there were a couple of amazing things happen in the field 1218 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,520 events. The women's pole vault. 1219 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:44,000 We saw the highest vault 2021 Nina Kennedy jumped 495. 1220 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,560 She puts herself up to 5th on the all time list jointly with 1221 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,120 with Katie Moon. So that's really cool. 1222 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,400 I she attempted 5 meters and I wouldn't be surprised if we get 1223 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,680 something that is over 5 meters at some point this season. 1224 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,480 She looks like she's fully back from her injury. 1225 01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:03,680 So that was really cool. Multi artist tento glue is 1226 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:08,200 really back. This was one of the greatest 1227 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:15,480 series I've ever seen in a long jump. 840-8852, 830-4849 and 1228 01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:19,040 861, and that's his second best ever jump. 1229 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,680 I think he's still the poor guy, still does not have the Greek 1230 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,320 national record after all of his dominance over the last few 1231 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,720 years. But he beat, you know, all the 1232 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,280 big competitors at European Tsarabukov. 1233 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,480 I think he was enraged because Simone E Hammer was in the 1234 01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:37,160 field. Simone E Hammer obviously had 1235 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,840 the world lead of 851. And he was like, I'm not having 1236 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,680 this. I'm going to destroy E Hammer 1237 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,040 and and and that led to his kind of actually destroying that 1238 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:53,080 world lead and and taking that back Mondo again. 1239 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,560 You know, he's now moved to Monaco. 1240 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,800 So he's he jumped 607 couldn't get over 615 here. 1241 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,240 But this is new adopted hometown, which is why they put 1242 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,080 on a special men's pole vault for him and then the men's high 1243 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,960 jump. I just want to shout out Kimani 1244 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,040 Jack and Savesh Khushari of India. 1245 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,200 So Kamani Jack first ever Diamond League NCAA champion, 1246 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,640 jumps 230 in his first ever Diamond League. 1247 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,480 That's that's really good. He didn't win like dorship jump 1248 01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:21,800 232, but it just shows a few signs of the high jump, men's 1249 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,400 high jump coming back to life. Jamalco Tamberi. 1250 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:30,560 Jamalco Tamberi was jumping. I mean, he only jumped 223, but 1251 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,800 it's a good sign to actually see him at the meet actually 1252 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:38,240 jumping. Mataz yes, Boshim also jumping 1253 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,080 here. I mean he also only cleared 220, 1254 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:44,760 but but still, it's always nice to see those guys guys jump in 1255 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,120 again after a bunch of injuries. So. 1256 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:52,080 Where's Hamish Kerr? So he posted actually just this 1257 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,720 week actually, that he basically was burnt out. 1258 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,200 So he took some time off from training. 1259 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,240 So he's just got back into training. 1260 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,360 So he took a couple of months completely off training 1261 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,520 entirely. So he's just getting back into 1262 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,040 it. So we will see him later in the 1263 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,880 season I guess he will be able to. 1264 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,400 He's obviously not doing Commonwealth Games therefore, 1265 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,240 but he will then be, I'm guessing, Well he has the wild 1266 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,760 card into our ultimate so I imagine we will he will build 1267 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,840 towards that hopefully at the end of the season. 1268 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,600 Out with the old and in with the new. 1269 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,840 The Sidious Mag podcast is brought to you by Lollipop and 1270 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,000 in honor of their brand new canned design and two new 1271 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,720 flavors, why not mix up the ad read with a brand new voice? 1272 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,600 Hi there, it's your favorite iconic marathon runner, Gabby 1273 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,520 Hentman. 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And this reminded me because I 1294 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:11,520 see that, you know, Ole Doroshuk is Ukrainian, but Russia is. 1295 01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:17,240 Now no longer banned by the International Olympic Committee, 1296 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:24,160 but we're in a weird spot where basically the IOC has lifted its 1297 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,440 ban on Russian athletes and World Athletics. 1298 01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:31,040 Just a couple days before the IOC announced this, said that 1299 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:35,960 they are holding firm on their decision to ban Russian and 1300 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,920 Belarusian athletes because of the because the conflict in 1301 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:47,840 Ukraine has not ended. And I think the the IOC also 1302 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,160 they're, they're also coming at this from a place of, you know, 1303 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,760 the world of the anti doping side of things. 1304 01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:02,080 Like if athletes can continue to, you know, remain clean and 1305 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,960 take all these precautions that have started to become put in 1306 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,880 place. We don't we'll we'll see how 1307 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,840 long Russia keeps its act together with anti doping. 1308 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:17,960 But we're in a interesting spot where for the 2028 Olympics we 1309 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,320 will likely see Russian athletes competing under the Russian flag 1310 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,880 for the first time since 2012. I think. 1311 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,520 Right, because in Rio they were banned from track at least. 1312 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,760 Yeah, I think that was that was because of the whole doping 1313 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:37,360 thing from 2014. So then they then they got 1314 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,240 banned from track. And for the longest time, 1315 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:45,840 athletes have been competing under this like Ana, like it was 1316 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:53,760 something neutralized athlete. And so they haven't said if the 1317 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:58,160 Russian flag is gonna fly during the opening ceremony. 1318 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,080 It seems like the IOC is still gonna keep Russia at a distance, 1319 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,960 like no events taking place there. 1320 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:11,120 But Cepco is holding firm in his decision to not allow Russian 1321 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,680 athletes, which we'll see how long that goes on for, But what 1322 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,600 did you think of the decision? I mean, look, I, I, I think this 1323 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,240 is a bit, that is tricky, right? I think unfortunately, from an 1324 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:29,440 IOC perspective, it's the Winter Olympics where they have an 1325 01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:32,640 interest in getting Russia back in to the fold because Russia 1326 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,840 provides a lot of the funding for winter sports. 1327 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,120 They're really big in that winter sports area. 1328 01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:41,080 And so there's a lot of pressure. 1329 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,680 I imagine the IOC from that from that angle rather than from the 1330 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:50,040 Summer Olympic angle. And you need to provide a runway 1331 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,400 to get the athletes back into competition, international 1332 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,840 competition to allow for qualifying for if you're looking 1333 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:03,600 at Winter Olympics in 20-30. And so that is kind of probably 1334 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:04,840 the reason why the decision came. 1335 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,600 Now, obviously, the situation in Ukraine has not changed in the 1336 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,760 slightest. So if you took a decision on the 1337 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:18,000 basis of what what's going on in Ukraine since 2022, then it just 1338 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,240 seems like they they, they, you know, it's come at a point where 1339 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,520 they just think, OK, people are probably not going to care 1340 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,920 enough anymore. There's other things to worry 1341 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,000 about in the world. And, and, and people have moved 1342 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,440 on and, and maybe that's why they're sort of, they think they 1343 01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:39,520 can kind of, you know, soft pedal that decision back in, in 1344 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,360 there. But obviously, yeah, subco 1345 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,160 standing firm. But I'll be intrigued to see, 1346 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,600 obviously his term comes up at the end of next year. 1347 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,440 I wonder if we'll start getting neutral Russian athletes. 1348 01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:53,680 Obviously we saw quite a few Kenyan athletes and, and the 1349 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,480 likes of Mara, Lady Pallino competing in Russia earlier this 1350 01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:58,480 year, which was a bit of a strange 1. 1351 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,160 And I don't really know what was going on there. 1352 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,960 I'm surprised that they they chose to do that. 1353 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:11,520 But yeah, so I, I but I think we will gradually see even even 1354 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,240 track and field will probably move in that direction 1355 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,520 eventually, I think. It was. 1356 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,400 I haven't done a deep dive into this, but it's been a while, I 1357 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:24,280 think since we've seen just sort of a Russian athlete just 1358 01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,000 competing nationally in Russia populate anywhere along. 1359 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,640 Some of these like season lists right? 1360 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,200 Like. Pole Men's pole vault There's a 1361 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:33,800 guy over 6 meters in the men's pole vault. 1362 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,640 Oh, really? Yeah, and then I think the world 1363 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,080 leader in the high jump is also in Russia as well. 1364 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,760 So right now. Yeah, all right, He certainly 1365 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,920 was. Let me track if he still is. 1366 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:46,040 But I. Think, oh, no, Dell. 1367 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,600 Oh yeah, Daniel Lysenko, he was. He's second because Doroshuk 1368 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:56,880 jumped to 233. But yeah, yeah, look at that. 1369 01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,520 Ukraine, Russia 1-2 in the in the men's high jump, but haven't 1370 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,200 not to sound like someone defending the decision to 1371 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:13,160 reinstate Russia, but we're, we're watching the World Cup 1372 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:19,120 right now, right? And we're seeing all these like 1373 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:23,560 the US, you can make the case that like the US and Iran in 1374 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:28,120 this war that we're also in, like why doesn't why doesn't the 1375 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,640 US get punished at the Olympic level or at the international 1376 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:37,640 sports level in the same way? And at the same time, like when, 1377 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,840 when it's something like the World Cup like these these 1378 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,280 athletes and sport just brings everyone together and like 1379 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:48,600 there's no politics seems to stay out of it for the most. 1380 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:53,920 It's, it's the confluence of politics, money and, you know. 1381 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,840 Like you're not going to ban the United States for the war and 1382 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,960 Iran right before the LA Olympics. 1383 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:04,800 I suppose they lose a little bit of, you know, that you can't 1384 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,480 say, oh, we're standing on integrity here and then, you 1385 01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:09,880 know. There's still other wars 1386 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,440 happening, yeah. Yeah, exactly. 1387 01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:14,160 And I and I think that's the they aren't going to ban Israel. 1388 01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,600 They aren't going to ban us. They are going to like it. 1389 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,760 So it just it, it because it's too much of A political hot 1390 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,240 potato to do anything like that. And also financially it's it's 1391 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,000 problematic. So Russia was the one they could 1392 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,400 do. But as I say, the consistency is 1393 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,960 not there. And then, you know, there's 1394 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,960 obviously lots of other nations on human rights grounds or other 1395 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,480 reasons that you might argue that all we should ban this 1396 01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:38,200 country and that that country and whatever. 1397 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,840 And, and I think like historically, obviously there 1398 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,440 has been that thing of, you know, the Olympics are meant to 1399 01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:48,720 bring everyone together. They're meant to be, you know, 1400 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,760 you have an Olympic truce, you keep the peace and, and all of 1401 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,520 that. And, and I think and therefore 1402 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,600 people who are even in, you know, and, and it's almost meant 1403 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,280 to kind of be a pathway to peace through, through sport. 1404 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,600 And you know, so you can also see that rationale that there is 1405 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,920 no discrimination, but we see the decision was taken in the 1406 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,880 case of the Russia Ukraine situation to to do that. 1407 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,760 And it just seems a bit odd now to to reverse course on that. 1408 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,360 Yeah, the Ukrainians must hate Christie Coventry for, like, 1409 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,200 this decision and then also the Winter Olympics. 1410 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,840 The guy with the helmet, like, yeah, punishing that guy. 1411 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,280 Like, that's already, like, twice that. 1412 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:34,840 She's done Ukraine wrong here. Yeah, rough. 1413 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,040 All right, on a much brighter note, London Diamond League 1414 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,360 taking place this weekend. We've already kind of touched on 1415 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:47,840 men's 800, men's hundred, men's 110 hurdles, Jamal Britt's world 1416 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,800 world tour continues strong field in that one. 1417 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,320 We already touched on women's 200, Julian Offord versus Gabby 1418 01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,560 Thomas. Again, men's 400. 1419 01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,480 We touched on so big. The big two that we need to 1420 01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:06,920 focus on here is men's mile women's 800. 1421 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:12,400 Let's start with the women's 800 first, even though it is the 1422 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:19,040 last event on the program. And I think I, I just did a hit 1423 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:25,520 with CBCTV with Perdita and Aaron Brown. 1424 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,360 And they'd asked me just sort of like, well, what do you think 1425 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,320 of, you know, Keely and the world record? 1426 01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:37,320 And coming off of Eugene, we talked about this, I think last 1427 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,040 week where it's sort of like there's that, all right, there's 1428 01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,920 been enough time since pre Classic and this London Diamond 1429 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,240 League to get back into training. 1430 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,400 And hopefully one thing that Keely cited was getting your 1431 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,880 head right before this next competition. 1432 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:56,040 And there's been so much pressure built into billing this 1433 01:28:56,040 --> 01:29:02,240 thing as a world record attempt that I think that internally it 1434 01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,320 doesn't need to be as don't build it up that big. 1435 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:10,680 Just view this race as a as a get back race of like, win it, 1436 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,160 you know, beat Georgia, beat Femka. 1437 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,080 Femka got thrown into the mix in this one. 1438 01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:22,240 I like that. And if you can beat those two, 1439 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,680 then your your confidence is back up to where it was before 1440 01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,080 you got beat by Audrey Weiro probably. 1441 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:34,000 And you can take that towards European Championships and then 1442 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,280 the second-half of the Diamond League slate to come. 1443 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:43,080 And maybe you choose to line up in Lausanne when Audrey's going 1444 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,760 to take her crack at this record. 1445 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,320 But I don't necessarily believe this thing to be a world record 1446 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,560 attempt anymore. I think it should be viewed as 1447 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,200 more of just sort of like Keely's a comeback race of 1448 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,120 sorts. And, and, and which is crazy 1449 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,040 because she's not having a bad season. 1450 01:29:59,480 --> 01:30:02,840 It's just sort of the standard for excellence for her is so 1451 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:06,040 high. And she just needs to get a 1452 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,520 victory to get closer to, you know, fully believing that that 1453 01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:15,640 world record is within reach. Yeah, I agree. 1454 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:21,640 I think it's got to be a firstly look at trying to just yeah, get 1455 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,640 the season going in the right direction again, obviously with 1456 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,680 the British tramps withdrawal with what happened at pre like 1457 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,000 the fall, like all of that. It's. 1458 01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,040 That was a month interrupted like it didn't seem like you got 1459 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,600 like although you didn't really you didn't miss a workout 1460 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,160 according to what you said in the pre race press conference 1461 01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,200 like. It just all those little. 1462 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:45,520 Interruptions didn't necessarily mean it was as smooth of a, of 1463 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:49,440 a, of a cycle and you're not recovering before these bigger 1464 01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:54,080 sessions and big races enough. And so now you've gotten what 1465 01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:58,960 what's, what's it been two weeks since pre that you had an you 1466 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,920 have an opportunity to, to set things on the right course 1467 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,760 again. Yeah. 1468 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:09,640 And and I think the danger I suspect here is what if like I 1469 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,360 think he'll, the pressure is on, right? 1470 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:17,080 That obviously like if it's a 156 race again, then Georgia 1471 01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:21,640 Antabelle from Kabul and from Kabul's ball and Siggy Deguma 1472 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,120 could well be in that mix for the win, right? 1473 01:31:25,480 --> 01:31:29,280 And I just don't think you want to give him a sniff. 1474 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:33,280 And I think that's where the pressure probably comes because 1475 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:38,200 I think, I think my worry is that even if she makes it a 154 1476 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:44,680 high race, I think Georgia or Femka could could potentially 1477 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:50,120 get there and could, could get out like Georgia running 15959 1478 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,680 solo at British Champs on what is not a fast track. 1479 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,840 It's windy. It's not not easy running like 1480 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,360 she's in 154 mid shape. I think, right, that's the 1481 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,040 that's the that's the vibe I get. 1482 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,120 And you know, I know she had a bad race at pre, but that was 1483 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,200 off the travel and everything. I think she will now have 1484 01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,600 recovered from that. And I do think she is a serious 1485 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,480 danger in this race from Cabrera's ball. 1486 01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:20,120 We know she's improving with every single race, right? 1487 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,040 And so Keely, I think there's a lot of pressure on Keely to make 1488 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:24,840 this. I think it's got to be at least 1489 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:30,760 154 mid, maybe even 154 low to to guarantee a victory, right? 1490 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,120 And that's. And is that because like we're 1491 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,480 not as confident in just sort of like the, the bringing it back 1492 01:32:37,480 --> 01:32:39,520 to the conversation we had a couple weeks ago, right, the 1493 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,400 tactics? Well, I think in this race, 1494 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:48,040 like, you know, like what the tactics are, right, Femco is not 1495 01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:49,760 going to go to the front and lead this race. 1496 01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,680 George Hunterbell is not going to go to the front and lead this 1497 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,520 race. But if it's a slow race, Tiger 1498 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,240 of those two athletes, I think could. 1499 01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,520 You don't want to leave it to the 48 second, right? 1500 01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:02,760 Yeah, exactly. So it just doesn't. 1501 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,080 So I think, you know, and Siggy Deguma as well, similarly, she's 1502 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,360 not one to lead out a race, right. 1503 01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:14,680 And so I think you really are in a position where Keely's the 1504 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,480 only one who's going to take it. And it's got to be quick. 1505 01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:26,520 And so I just, I do think that Keely has like she's in a little 1506 01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,720 bit of a corner there because unless she is at her very best, 1507 01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:35,760 she's not going to beat those two in a slower race. 1508 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,880 You know, when, if she's 2024 Keely, then yes, she beats them 1509 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:44,600 in a, in a, in a, in, in a slower race as well. 1510 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,800 But I think the challenge is that I think that's, that's the 1511 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:51,560 bit that's that's tough. I'm also, you know, I, I'm 1512 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,640 really intrigued to see what Phoebe Gill can do because I 1513 01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,160 think she is, she looked really good winning a Continental Tour 1514 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,800 meet a few weeks ago, a couple of weeks ago. 1515 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,640 And she's coming back to her best form. 1516 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:07,400 So I'll be, I mean, yeah, she's not, she's not going to run 154, 1517 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,720 but you know, I think she could run a 156 in this race. 1518 01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:16,920 I think, you know, and yeah, we'll have to see how, yeah, how 1519 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,680 the rest of this race. But yeah, I mean, yeah, the main 1520 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:24,800 players obviously are Georgia, Femka Keely and Cindy De Guma 1521 01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:30,360 really in this one. So you think run back the same 1522 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,000 approach is pre and just hold on for dear life? 1523 01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:40,440 If Keely is in that shape, I think she can is in the same 1524 01:34:40,440 --> 01:34:42,360 shape she was in in Stockholm, right? 1525 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,800 She's in there and she's a month on and obviously there's been a 1526 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:49,120 bit of disruption. But if she's in that shape and 1527 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,080 she's managed to build a little bit of that on from that shape 1528 01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:56,760 from Stockholm, you know she's in 154 low shape, right? 1529 01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:58,680 At the very least she's in 154 low. 1530 01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:04,080 She's 115433. So I think in that circumstance, 1531 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:09,560 that's got to be your tactic and also that's what the crowd is 1532 01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,640 going to expect and want her to do. 1533 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,600 Like there's going to be 60,000 Brits in that stadium. 1534 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,840 Like if Katie Hutchinson does not go to the front and make it 1535 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,440 a quick race like. Do they Boo? 1536 01:35:21,440 --> 01:35:24,640 I don't. I don't think they Boo, but they 1537 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,880 would be somewhat disappointed, I imagine. 1538 01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,880 So, yeah, I, I, I think and, and look, it's tough for her, right? 1539 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,440 And. I What if all those people knew 1540 01:35:34,440 --> 01:35:36,960 that they were going to win the World Cup a couple days later? 1541 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,240 Like it's like, all right, it's. Literally going to be the next 1542 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:44,240 day. I mean, look, you know, like, 1543 01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:51,440 yeah, I mean, I, I, I do think that it's got to be yeah, I, I 1544 01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:52,880 don't think she's got a choice in this race. 1545 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,600 I will be obviously Europeans. Then comes a couple of weeks 1546 01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:01,920 after that, and that's where we get to see her face up against 1547 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,920 Audrey Warrow and Premka in a tactical, completely tactical 1548 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:10,280 race. No pacemakers, but there. 1549 01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,560 I think Audrey will take it. I I do think Audrey, like if 1550 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,960 Audrey's in the race, she will probably, she now has that 1551 01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,040 confidence and she will take take the pace. 1552 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:21,960 In your she's going to reduce it. 1553 01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:28,160 I think that's what she will try and I think Fam Cohen and and 1554 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:32,280 Keely will be hanging on and that will make for a really good 1555 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,240 race if if it all comes together. 1556 01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:40,320 I was texting the lab count crew this morning about this because 1557 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,360 I stumbled upon, I've been watching a little bit of the 1558 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:47,680 Tour de France. And so it looks like Tade is 1559 01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,240 going to end up winning his fifth Tour de France title. 1560 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:58,040 And that when it's all said and done, they're going to say like, 1561 01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:01,240 oh, he tied the record for most Tour de France victories. 1562 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:06,000 And I've stumbled upon this clip of Lance Armstrong on his 1563 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:11,760 podcast saying how no, he doesn't think that Tade is going 1564 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:16,520 to skip next year. And he knows fully well what the 1565 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:23,200 record is alluding to. You know, Lance's seven titles 1566 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,680 that were stripped for his anti doping offences. 1567 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,920 And he's like, and I kind of, and I want to see him go after 1568 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,680 it because he knows he knows what the real record is. 1569 01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,840 And so he wants it like he should go after it. 1570 01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:45,040 And I was like, oh, that's so it's so strange to see a person 1571 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:51,480 who holds a record talking about the current generation of 1572 01:37:51,480 --> 01:37:56,320 athletes going for their record. And I was like, we don't have 1573 01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:00,440 enough of that in track. It's like why we we have not 1574 01:38:00,440 --> 01:38:04,680 seen an interview with Hickamel Guruge asking him about like 1575 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:08,800 Josh Kerr's being very vocal about him going after your 1576 01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,120 record. Like, what do you think? 1577 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:11,960 You think he's going to get it? Like, none. 1578 01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,440 I haven't seen anything from that. 1579 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:18,120 And then with, you know, Krotchevilova, like and the 1580 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,960 women's 800, everyone's talking shit about your record and how, 1581 01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:24,480 like, sketchy it is. She was actually. 1582 01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:26,720 A Times article, maybe like 5. Years ago. 1583 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,240 About it. But. 1584 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:37,160 I haven't seen her discuss Werro and Keely and I think there just 1585 01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,040 needs to be a think a bit more of like. 1586 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,520 I'll find the Chinese. Yeah, because she actually was 1587 01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,480 in a Strava watching Audrey Wearo. 1588 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,840 So. That did she do an interview? 1589 01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,480 I don't know. So I I'm going to, I'll try and 1590 01:38:51,480 --> 01:38:53,400 find out. I'll try and find out if she if 1591 01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,000 she said anything to anyone who was there. 1592 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,560 Yeah, and the same thing with the with the Chinese distance 1593 01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:01,720 runners from from, from the 90s. It's like, oh, everyone's 1594 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,200 talking shit about this record. Like, all right, come get it. 1595 01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:08,760 Like go and take it. We don't have enough of that in 1596 01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,080 in in track and in running where it's sort of like, all right, 1597 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:16,440 The we need to interview more of these record holders about the 1598 01:39:16,440 --> 01:39:20,040 people who are attacking the last thing that they own. 1599 01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:24,680 Bolt is like one of the few people who does get asked a lot 1600 01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,080 about this current generation of sprinters, but no one's come 1601 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:32,160 close yet. No one has earned the right to 1602 01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,440 be talked about. Maybe Noel Lyles in the 200 as a 1603 01:39:36,440 --> 01:39:41,840 threat to Bolt. But yeah, like Rhudisha, I want 1604 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,200 Rhudisha to come. Rhudisha's maybe commented on 1605 01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,320 Wen Yon Yi because they're both Kenyan. 1606 01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:48,640 I've seen them photographed together but. 1607 01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:55,800 Yeah, we need more, more from these record holders, especially 1608 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:59,240 when it is aggressively hyped up and talked about. 1609 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,920 Well, there was that really hilarious moment, I think on the 1610 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:09,800 Float Track podcast in Eugene in 2022 where, oh man, Gordon Mack 1611 01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,840 said something about Fred Curly breaking Usain Bolt's world 1612 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:16,120 record. Usain Bolt heard it, clipped it 1613 01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:20,000 and sampled it into a song and put it out on his Instagram. 1614 01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:25,560 It was absolutely glorious. So you say Bolt is listening if 1615 01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,320 anyone tries to talk rubbish about someone breaking his 1616 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:32,120 records. Yeah, no one's, no one's 1617 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,360 sniffing Bolts 100 anytime soon yet. 1618 01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,320 No, not. A chance. 1619 01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,680 All right. Well, now let's talk about the 1620 01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,280 other record. So prediction for Keely 800 1621 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:43,640 world record not happening this weekend. 1622 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,520 No, I think, I think there's a decent chance she runs another 1623 01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:52,920 154 low. So I, I, I'm, I'm going to go 1624 01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:57,080 for, I'm going to say British record 154, two from Keely. 1625 01:40:58,040 --> 01:40:59,480 I think you. I think you're. 1626 01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:04,880 Floating 154 is like that like like they're 150 sevens pre I I 1627 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:13,160 I think she wins the race in 155 high, maybe even like like yeah, 1628 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:16,360 155 high she gets the victory. That's what I'm. 1629 01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,960 If it's 155 high, she's losing to Georgia. 1630 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:24,240 So if that's the time, then I'm saying Georgia Ontabel wins this 1631 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,560 race. What's the worst case scenario? 1632 01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:33,120 Chance of 4th to Georgia femka like it's. 1633 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,120 Probably the worst case is she DNS is right but. 1634 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:41,440 Yeah, that's true. But I think she will run it. 1635 01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:44,680 I think she'll run it. She's, she's had to DNS a couple 1636 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,360 of times in London and she's obviously been very disappointed 1637 01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,400 by that. And I think, I don't think 1638 01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,880 there's anything to suggest like if she ran pre then she's 1639 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,400 definitely going to run this right. 1640 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,960 If she'd scratched pre, we'd obviously be nervous about 1641 01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:00,160 whether she'd run this, but she didn't scratch pre even though 1642 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:04,400 she wasn't 100%. So I think she will definitely 1643 01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,200 run and. You know what, actually, I'm 1644 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:11,520 going back on my prediction. I think I'm going to go 156 for 1645 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,080 the win, but it's it's going to be Georgia. 1646 01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,520 I think I'm with you. I think no, no, 155 high. 1647 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:24,880 I did I think 155 high Georgia wins Keely second, third. 1648 01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,080 Yeah. I was just thinking more about 1649 01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,320 just. What? 1650 01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,720 What do you think of Famker's tactics? 1651 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:35,480 Like, is she? Do you think she will? 1652 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,520 What? How do we feel about Famker in a 1653 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:43,880 tact, a more tactical race? I think she's position herself 1654 01:42:44,440 --> 01:42:46,640 in the pack that's in second, right? 1655 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,000 Like the battle for second, if Keely's like going with the 1656 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:54,120 pacer and she will assess with 200 meters to go 150. 1657 01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,240 Meters to go if she's still in contention for the win. 1658 01:42:56,440 --> 01:43:00,320 Because in Paris, what she did was like, she got at least like. 1659 01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,680 Had someone to run with in the final 100 meters. 1660 01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:08,200 So yeah, if she's within striking distance with 200 to 1661 01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:12,680 go, I think that maybe it sets off another alarm for her and. 1662 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:18,600 We can see, we can see a bit. More of a kick, but she's not 1663 01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:23,960 going to go with, she's not going to go with sliding like 1664 01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,760 right behind Keely, I think. And the pacer? 1665 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,720 You agree. Yeah, No, I think, I think, 1666 01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:33,160 yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, I'm, I'm just interested 1667 01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:36,240 in I, I think that's what she will do in this race. 1668 01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,640 Absolutely. I'm just wondering whether we 1669 01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:43,040 think that overall, like if something different happens if 1670 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:48,360 she can't get into second or third, like do we think that's 1671 01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,200 going to throw her off completely or do we think she is 1672 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:54,800 smart enough tactically given she hasn't really run any 1673 01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,920 tactical 8 hundreds, Do we think she's smart enough tactically to 1674 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,520 cope with that? I think, yeah, risk planners 1675 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,360 stick to like stay on Georgia because if if if you're thinking 1676 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,400 Keely is going to be the one that goes up in the front. 1677 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:10,800 And we know that Georgia is a kicker when when it comes to 1678 01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:15,680 eights and fifteens. Well, George is not a 48 second 1679 01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:21,560 400m runner. So let's see what how that's 1680 01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,560 that's actually really fun dynamic. 1681 01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:29,760 There is can Georgia out kick Femka is fascinating. 1682 01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,720 Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, I think Georgia might do 1683 01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:37,160 it at this stage, but I I do think like later in the season, 1684 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,080 there's a decent chance that Femka could be out kicking 1685 01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:41,520 everybody. I got an answer. 1686 01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,160 I love the fact that femka has no pressure. 1687 01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,040 On her to like, really? Show up and win this race like 1688 01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:48,840 she can. Only if she finishes third, then 1689 01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,280 we're all like, oh, yeah, no, that's kind of where I expected 1690 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:52,320 her to finish. She finishes second. 1691 01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,360 We're like, oh. Shit, she's getting close. 1692 01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:58,000 Back to like a year ago when Femka and Keely were joking 1693 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,320 around about oh, should we run a 600 right? 1694 01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:03,400 And now would. You take in a 600 right now. 1695 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:10,400 Fabka like by a mile, but but I think like, yeah, now we're 1696 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,200 saying we're now literally talking about it's bonkers to 1697 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:17,920 think that we are now literally saying could Fabka beat Keely in 1698 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:23,280 an 800? A Keely who's just run 15433 but 1699 01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:26,760 could fab can be here in an 8 in an 800 like it's wild, 1700 01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,800 absolutely wild. I thought we. 1701 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,480 Were we're going to, we were going to be here and so I'll 1702 01:45:31,480 --> 01:45:34,240 give him credit on that. I thought we were going to be, 1703 01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:37,280 yes, she runs 155. That I agree with that. 1704 01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,760 I just didn't think that there was any chance she could beat 1705 01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,160 Keely. But like what I'm saying right 1706 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,920 now, I think there was a chance that anything happens here. 1707 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,520 I got an answer on Krakashvilova. 1708 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,080 She did no press and she doesn't speak any English. 1709 01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:54,440 So no, she did not say anything about what what what these guys 1710 01:45:54,440 --> 01:45:58,520 are going to do, sadly. Yeah, I think the the only, the 1711 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:03,680 closest thing we have to her speaking in recent years was a 1712 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:07,040 New York Times story where it came out a couple years ago when 1713 01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:12,680 Sebco was toying with the idea of resetting the world records, 1714 01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,640 like by starting at a certain date. 1715 01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,640 Like I think it may have like aligned with the start of the 1716 01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,760 athlete biological passport or something like that. 1717 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:24,760 And that way we just recalibrate everything. 1718 01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:28,280 And she had spoken out being like, no, you can't do that. 1719 01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:33,720 Like my record is my record. And then nothing ever came of 1720 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:35,360 that. And it's one of the ones that 1721 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,000 are like, oh, that actually was a good idea. 1722 01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,440 Like maybe we should have seen that through. 1723 01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:39,680 But. No, he did. 1724 01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,840 No, he did say like Sebco did speak on this and I think I 1725 01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,400 mentioned it. No, I think it was like a year 1726 01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,440 ago, last year, the year before, like it was at one of the, it 1727 01:46:48,440 --> 01:46:51,240 was at one of his press conferences that he does after 1728 01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,000 council meetings or something. Someone asked him about it. 1729 01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,680 And basically the reason is that they just get sued into oblivion 1730 01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,680 like some kind of like the Chinese world records. 1731 01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,600 The Chinese government is blatantly going to sue World 1732 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:05,280 Athletics to oblivion. Like if they try and wipe out 1733 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:09,880 some of the Chinese athletes and, and like it's EBCO was 1734 01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:14,000 like, we could try it, but the reality is then we'd have to 1735 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,280 spend all our money fighting lawsuits and we wouldn't be able 1736 01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,480 to invest in the sport. So we thought about it and we 1737 01:47:20,480 --> 01:47:23,200 genuinely wanted to try and do something about it, but the 1738 01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,800 reality was it's just too difficult when there's no real 1739 01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:31,800 evidence, contemporary evidence of the doping, then you can't do 1740 01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,200 anything about it retrospectively. 1741 01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,480 Or if you try, then, then it you will just get stuck in legal 1742 01:47:38,480 --> 01:47:40,760 wranglings. And I think, and that's probably 1743 01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,280 fair because like we know it's how difficult is even when 1744 01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,800 someone has been caught doping and there's like trying to say, 1745 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,360 oh, was it intentional? Was it contamination? 1746 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,360 Was it this, that and the other and how long it takes to get one 1747 01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,280 doping case. They tried to do something as 1748 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,240 blanket as this. You can just imagine how 1749 01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,440 difficult the legal processes would be. 1750 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:07,640 This is maybe back in like 2018 Malcolm Gladwell went on the 1751 01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:12,800 House of Run podcasts and presented this idea about Decade 1752 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:17,840 Records and I thought that oh actually that one sounds pretty 1753 01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,960 fascinating. Is celebrating keeping track of 1754 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:28,600 the world record start in 2000 and will run till 2010 and 1755 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:32,720 that's your decade record and then 2010 to 2020, that's your 1756 01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:34,960 next decade. And so right now we'd be dead 1757 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:43,000 smack basically in the middle of the 2020 to 2020 to 2030 decade 1758 01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:48,640 record, which I think I'd have to, we did do an outline of like 1759 01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:50,680 what every decades record would be. 1760 01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:54,640 I remember I spent quite a bit of time parsing through all of 1761 01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,800 that data. And I think we even kept track 1762 01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:01,120 of like how many records belong to each decade. 1763 01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:04,280 And I think for many of them now, they probably would belong 1764 01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:05,800 to this current one that we're in. 1765 01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,360 Because of super shoes, buy Carville, that kind of stuff. 1766 01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:13,040 But we haven't, I guess since that was back in 2018, we 1767 01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,880 haven't done it for the 20 twenties. 1768 01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:21,720 So maybe next week I'll come back with, hey, here's what our 1769 01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:25,640 decade records are for the twenty 20s. 1770 01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,320 And yeah, maybe that's something that we should. 1771 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:33,080 I saw there was a lot of hype around Marco's time this past 1772 01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,400 weekend being was it a North American? 1773 01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:35,960 Soil. Yeah. 1774 01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:37,320 North American soil record. Yeah. 1775 01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:43,680 OK, like soil records, let's celebrate decade records because 1776 01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:47,880 I I do think that there's something to this one and then 1777 01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:49,960 not you don't. Have to worry about the 1778 01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:51,240 lawsuits. In that one. 1779 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:56,240 So there we go. All right, so one decade record 1780 01:49:56,240 --> 01:50:00,520 that could be at this weekend. And actually this current 1781 01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:04,960 record, world record belongs to the 90s, not even the the 2000s 1782 01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:08,960 or or twenty 10s Jicamel Guruge's mile world record. 1783 01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,360 It still stands. Do you have it in front of you? 1784 01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:19,120 Yeah, three, yeah, 34313, yeah. Yeah, and I think poetically 1785 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:27,080 Josh's 222, no two point 22 seconds off of that world record 1786 01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:32,480 and he's and also the time to run is 222 seconds. 1787 01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:35,680 That's been the whole thing. I think behind Project 222, 1788 01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:38,960 Brooks is hyping it up. There's the YouTube series on 1789 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:41,280 their YouTube channel. Every video I think appears to 1790 01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:49,160 be 3 minutes and 43 seconds. And Josh's workouts have lined 1791 01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:54,040 up nicely for this one. Kyle has read into them and 1792 01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,720 shattered them out across this podcast over the last couple 1793 01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,920 weeks, except the most recent one. 1794 01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:02,920 Did you watch this video is the 12-12 hundred time trial that he 1795 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:04,800 posted yesterday, I think it was. 1796 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:10,920 He makes it through like AK of it and then just absolutely like 1797 01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:15,640 blue balls the viewer and doesn't show the last like 200 1798 01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:17,040 meters. And so you're left wondering 1799 01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,840 like, what did he run? And so he'll post the end of 1800 01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:24,000 that workout and what that time was on Friday night, the night 1801 01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:28,640 before the meet. And he seems confident. 1802 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,560 When is when? When is Joshua ever not 1803 01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:36,360 confident? That's true, that's true. 1804 01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:41,120 A quick update on what you're about to hear with this Mile 1805 01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:46,440 World Record Attempt preview. I just got word that. 1806 01:51:46,440 --> 01:51:49,000 Hobbes, Kessler is scratching from the race. 1807 01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:55,400 So kind of throws my whole plan for someone to disrupt this 1808 01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:58,200 record attempt. I think it'll just be more of a 1809 01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,120 time trial so it aligns more with Preet's. 1810 01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,240 View on how this race might shake out. 1811 01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,920 Now we have more details. I think a week ago we joked that 1812 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:11,160 this would we knew more about the guests in attendance at 1813 01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,880 Taylor Swift's wedding then the people who were competing in the 1814 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,200 mile at the Lenin Diamond League. 1815 01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:20,160 Well, we have a full start list now, and it includes Simeon 1816 01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,600 Birnbaum making his Diamond League debut, Robert Farkin, 1817 01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:27,400 who's run 332 for the 1500s so far this season. 1818 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:32,280 You know, Gorley, Nathan Green, Jake Hayward, Hobbes, Kessler, 1819 01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,760 Brandon Kidder. Who's the pacer, Arlo? 1820 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,600 Ludwick. I'd never heard that name before 1821 01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,240 he. Is the British champion at 1500 1822 01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,920 meters for 2026. That's how we got to spawn this 1823 01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,400 one. That's how he got spot, but he 1824 01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:48,520 just actually he'd he'd not, he'd like his PB was something 1825 01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,120 like 337 or 338, but he just went and ran 333. 1826 01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,360 So it's a it's a really cool story. 1827 01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:58,280 He's he's had a bit of a breakthrough year and yeah, I I 1828 01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:01,000 hadn't heard of him either until, until the British up so. 1829 01:53:01,480 --> 01:53:06,120 Then you got Yarid, Nagus, Ethan, Strand and then Zahn. 1830 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:09,040 Rudolph, what's his 334 guy? Doing in this race. 1831 01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:10,960 Is he also? The pacer, yeah, he's the 1832 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,800 standard pacer for the diamond leagues and stuff. 1833 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:14,880 He does. He paces most of the a lot of 1834 01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,480 the diamond leagues. OK, so how are they setting us 1835 01:53:17,480 --> 01:53:21,240 up with Kidder and Rudolph? Being I would imagine that 1836 01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:25,200 Rudolph is the first pacer and then Kid will be the second 1837 01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:29,440 pacer because you'd have thought that in training kiddo would be 1838 01:53:29,440 --> 01:53:33,600 the one like likes, likes to sit behind. 1839 01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:40,000 But and it was interesting because in in the sound running 1840 01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:45,320 meet this weekend, he ran an 800 and you know, commentators like, 1841 01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:46,960 Oh, we've had he's in amazing shape. 1842 01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,160 And then he ran a 145 and came like 6 or something. 1843 01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:57,360 But you know, like I think. Can I say I wish it was Brandon 1844 01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:59,360 Miller? Yeah, yeah. 1845 01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,320 I would have loved to have seen Brandon Miller pacing some of 1846 01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:09,560 this and yeah, but but yeah, we'll have to see, see how that 1847 01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:11,280 pans out. I mean, obviously he's got Yaron 1848 01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,000 the goose, and I will be intrigued to see what Yaron's 1849 01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:18,560 tactics are in this race because he's the one guy who we know has 1850 01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:23,600 run 343, obviously behind Jakob, but he's run that time. 1851 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:28,240 Is he gonna Unless, unless somehow they have paid Yarod to 1852 01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,960 be a pacer in the Trace. I don't imagine they have but 1853 01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,880 but but that would be hilarious if they had. 1854 01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:41,200 Also OK, so. Assume that Zan Rudolph and 1855 01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,720 Brandon Kidder are your Pacers for this one right Then. 1856 01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,160 I don't if I'm Hobbes Kessler, who we've seen at the pre 1857 01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:53,920 classic two years in a row now, slide himself behind the pacer. 1858 01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:57,520 Try and go for that spot in this one too. 1859 01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,000 You might throw Josh off his game right away. 1860 01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,320 Yeah, then. Then it becomes a race. 1861 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:10,120 Yeah, I do. I do want like I I do wonder 1862 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:15,160 because the pace is so hot from the gun and maybe. 1863 01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:16,880 Yeah. Have they said they're planning 1864 01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:21,480 on coming through? No, I I suspect we will find out 1865 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,120 on Friday at the press conference, albeit sometimes you 1866 01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,560 can look at the Wave Light website and it tells you on 1867 01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:31,880 there. But but I'm I don't think so. 1868 01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:40,960 Well, so I'm kind of, I want to see Josh Runwell break the yes, 1869 01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,080 I want to see someone break this mile world record, right? 1870 01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:47,680 But I also like the dramatics of a really good race. 1871 01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:54,560 I would love for Hobbs to play party spoiler here and try and 1872 01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,520 go to the front. Why just give it to Josh? 1873 01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:03,600 Was your was your entry in this one contingent on, you know, 1874 01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:07,280 giving up the spot to Josh? I don't know. 1875 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,600 This is a race. It's a race and, and I do think 1876 01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:16,560 like here, but I, I, I do also think like, if you think back to 1877 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:20,080 that pre classic race from a couple of years ago, was it 1878 01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:26,920 2023? I think you will get, I think it 1879 01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:31,640 just will be a race where it will very, very quickly spread 1880 01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:37,400 out and like, I don't see the likes of Neil Gurley isn't in 1881 01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:41,680 shape. Nathan Green, Ethan Strand, 1882 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,480 they're not the time trialling type. 1883 01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,840 Jake Heywood and Tom Keenan are nowhere close to that shape. 1884 01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:49,120 So there's only a couple of guys who can put themselves in there. 1885 01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,520 And I think that's Yard and a Goose and maybe Hobbs Kessler 1886 01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,600 like that. Is it pretty much. 1887 01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,920 I mean, Robert Falcon sometimes thinks he can get himself in 1888 01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,120 there, so he's probably the only other one who who sometimes gets 1889 01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:03,920 in the way and then trips up off the field as he goes round. 1890 01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:10,600 But yeah, I think it's, it's those guys that will be the ones 1891 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,880 upfront in this and, and it means that there's probably only 1892 01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:18,600 three or four guys in this race really, which is probably what 1893 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,400 what Josh is intending, right? He needs a smoother run as 1894 01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,080 possible. And if it's only three or four 1895 01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:25,080 guys, it shouldn't be too crowded. 1896 01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:28,080 If he needs to move around someone, he can do it. 1897 01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:31,480 But obviously when you're trying to run 34313, so you're trying 1898 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:37,120 to run 342 like having to move around someone maybe costs you. 1899 01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:41,760 Yeah, that might it cost you point 2.3 of a second and that's 1900 01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,080 that's about record gone. So. 1901 01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:46,960 Yeah, so if if you're someone like Hobbs who could be a player 1902 01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,040 in this race, why not just do that throw, throw this world 1903 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:54,000 record out the window right away and then just convert this thing 1904 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:57,280 into a race? But also, why don't you just sit 1905 01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:01,080 on Josh Kerr is famously and and Josh Kerr? 1906 01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:06,320 Don't just sit on Josh and like. Well, I think The thing is Josh 1907 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:09,760 Kerr is famously known, like he's gone for like the British 1908 01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,760 record and 15 or something before and things like that. 1909 01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:15,520 And he is not a front runner. That is not his. 1910 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,440 That is not his best way of running a race, right? 1911 01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,240 So if Josh is less left out there following the Pacers, 1912 01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,360 he'll be vulnerable. I think Jared or Hobbs could sit 1913 01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,840 on him and I definitely think Jared could then just kick by 1914 01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:31,880 him when he slows down and maybe maybe Jared gets the record or 1915 01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:32,880 gets closer. But. 1916 01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:37,320 Yeah, no, I, I, I agree with you there. 1917 01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:42,200 I just don't think I'm struggling to think of Hobbes is 1918 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:47,880 in the fitness to win this race if it's faster than 345. 1919 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:54,000 The only two people right now. Maybe it's so hard to judge Josh 1920 01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,960 because like he hasn't raced at all so far this season. 1921 01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:02,440 But like you could think yard is coming off of A34661 at the pre 1922 01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:06,160 classic. Ethan was 34697 so high. 1923 01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:16,040 Hobbs was 347 almost mid that, yeah, I mean, like B set the 1924 01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:21,680 pick for for for yard ahead. And like, 'cause that disruption 1925 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,760 early on in the race, now all of a sudden, like it's no longer a 1926 01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:28,880 world record attempt and it just becomes a pure race and everyone 1927 01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,240 is back into it, back in it. You can do that in one lap 1928 01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:32,600 without risking the whole entire thing. 1929 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:36,680 Yeah, I maybe, but I, I mean, I think Yarrod will be keen to run 1930 01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,720 quick because that's he does love to do that and so. 1931 01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,360 Yeah, but I don't think these other guys are are thinking I'm 1932 01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,680 going to break the world record at this race so. 1933 01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:48,880 I think Yarrod is. To have the Pacers going there. 1934 01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:55,840 Maybe. But I, I, yeah, I, I, I, I don't 1935 01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,880 think I'd want to be on the other end of Josh Kerr's wrath 1936 01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:02,280 if, if, if he got in the way of this. 1937 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:06,360 But yeah, we'll have to see. Why? 1938 02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:08,320 Because he didn't get the record? 1939 02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:13,720 Because he lost. Because he won but didn't get 1940 02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:19,040 the record. Like I, you don't serve this 1941 02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:21,320 thing up. Everyone else just should be 1942 02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:22,880 playing defence a little bit here. 1943 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:26,520 It's not. Their world record to defence. 1944 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:30,080 So I think I think in a sense it's like, let's get on the 1945 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:33,760 train, let's be in a fast race if Josh. 1946 02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:35,600 It's a time trial, then it's a time trial. 1947 02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:37,040 It's not a race. But if, yeah. 1948 02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:40,880 But if Josh slows down, there is a massive opportunity, right? 1949 02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:44,560 And yeah. So cause Josh to slow down right 1950 02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:49,960 away. Yeah, but then you run 347 again 1951 02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:52,320 and it's like. Well, what's wrong with that? 1952 02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:57,680 What's wrong with that? No, look, I, I think this is the 1953 02:00:57,680 --> 02:00:59,360 race where people are trying to run fast, right? 1954 02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:02,160 And I think that like there will. 1955 02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:04,240 Be a second. Every Diamond League nowadays. 1956 02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:06,680 I know it's every Diamond League, but this, this has been 1957 02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:10,840 built to something kind of that even the pre pre this year 1958 02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:14,400 wasn't kind of set because because coal wasn't in that 1959 02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:19,360 shape to to to run A344343 and you know, it just wasn't, you 1960 02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:20,960 know, there's no Jacob and whatever. 1961 02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:24,680 So that there wasn't anyone really pushing that one. 1962 02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:31,240 So I think here, I think there is there will be an ambition to 1963 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:35,840 run, run fast. And that's where I do think the 1964 02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:40,160 likes of a Hobson and Ethan Strand may just say, OK, we'll 1965 02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:46,680 just get on the train here. You're racing for 2nd, 3rd place 1966 02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,720 at that point if if you leave it to that. 1967 02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:52,560 I don't know, because because that's where I think Josh is not 1968 02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:55,680 a natural time trial. So there is a small chance that 1969 02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,280 Josh blows up, right? I mean, Josh, we know he's 1970 02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:01,000 always very prepared, right? He's always very, very prepared 1971 02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:03,960 in whatever he does. And if he says he's going for 1972 02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:07,320 his mobile record, but I think even if he's not in shape to do 1973 02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:10,000 it, he will still put on the show, right? 1974 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:13,120 That that we know that that's what Josh Josh will do. 1975 02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:17,680 And so he has done this before and he has lost the race. 1976 02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,120 He got out kicked by Neil Gurley. 1977 02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:21,640 I think when he last tried to break the Rich record, I think 1978 02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:23,160 it was British indoor record or something. 1979 02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:24,800 And he got out kicked by Neil Gurley. 1980 02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:28,160 Like he is vulnerable to that. He's definitely vulnerable to 1981 02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:29,600 that when he's trying to do a time trial. 1982 02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:34,320 So that's where I think people get on the train so that they 1983 02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:38,960 get the first time and then the moment Josh falters, if he 1984 02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:44,760 falters, then they'll take it. And otherwise, they made it hard 1985 02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,080 because Josh has to do everything. 1986 02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:48,280 Once the pace has dropped, Josh has to do everything himself. 1987 02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:53,400 Listen, I'll be happy if Josh breaks the mile world record and 1988 02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:57,560 I'll gladly chat with him on this podcast about it soon. 1989 02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:00,720 But I do want it. I wanted to get be a bit more 1990 02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,400 interesting than just everyone's single file line. 1991 02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:06,160 But but Josh is going to hear this segment and then not come 1992 02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:09,800 on the podcast. Now knowing Josh, he's, he's on 1993 02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:14,200 his like burner phone I think at this point where he doesn't, he 1994 02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:16,760 doesn't even he doesn't listen or watch anything. 1995 02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:18,680 I think there's only like 2 people who can get in touch with 1996 02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:23,520 him and he's like Zero Dark 30. This is his his Olympics of of, 1997 02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:28,280 of the season at this point. So yeah. 1998 02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:30,960 But then after that, he's got to get to racing, as you, I think, 1999 02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:32,560 kind of noted. Before if he. 2000 02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:37,320 Wants to stretch this thing all the way out to September, but 2001 02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:39,960 yeah, we'll see. So your prediction, does he get 2002 02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:47,080 it or not? I think he runs a 344 low. 2003 02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:58,600 I think, I think, I think yard wins in 340. 4. 7 That's my 2004 02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:05,640 prediction, Josh, second party. Spoil I think I I think in left 2005 02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:09,440 one, I think Josh will. I think, I think Josh will 2006 02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:14,320 actually still win this race, but I think it's 344, yeah, 344 2007 02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:19,240 four or something like that. All right, well, we shall see. 2008 02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:25,560 All right, Well that's London Diamond League all in one day. 2009 02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:29,200 Previously the Anniversary Games. 2010 02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:33,280 I liked it when it was 2 days, but that was what it's been. 2011 02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,840 It's been a while since London. It's been a while since they 2012 02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,640 called it because they shifted it out of London and now they 2013 02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:41,600 brought it back to London. But they they, they obviously 2014 02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:43,960 paid some very expensive marketing consultants to come up 2015 02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:46,520 with the brilliant name of London athletics meet. 2016 02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:57,040 But yes, so yeah, but there is obviously the the Hungary meet 2017 02:04:57,040 --> 02:05:01,800 tomorrow as well to watch which is a continental tour gold. 2018 02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:06,520 And then London Diamond League will be the last Diamond League 2019 02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:09,720 and big meet for a little while because we'll have come games, 2020 02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:12,160 we'll have the national championships weekend for Usas 2021 02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:16,320 and a lot of other countries and and we'll have a bit of a gap. 2022 02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:20,680 We'll have world year 20s and then we'll have European 2023 02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:23,920 Championships, so there's going to be a bit of a gap until sort 2024 02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:28,400 of 20 something of August. So yeah, but there'll still be a 2025 02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:30,320 lot of action to follow in the meantime. 2026 02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,960 Definitely all right, well that does it for this week in track 2027 02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:36,840 and field. We will catch you guys with a 2028 02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:40,480 full Diamond League, London Diamond League recap. 2029 02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:43,000 In fact, actually you're going to be at the stadium, so it'd be 2030 02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:45,800 really hard to do an emergency pod if these records. 2031 02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:49,960 Fall if anything happens. So we'll get your reaction next 2032 02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:53,520 week, maybe if if anything major major happens, there's a chance 2033 02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:55,960 Kyle and I jump on the mics. But we'll see. 2034 02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:58,240 We'll see how it all shakes out. It should be a good one. 2035 02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:02,760 All right, that's a wrap on today's episode. 2036 02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:05,720 Thanks for listening, for the time, the curiosity, and for 2037 02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:08,480 making this show part of your routine or your run. 2038 02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:11,800 A big thanks to our producer Jasmine Fair, and to everyone 2039 02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:13,760 behind the scenes who helps make the Sidious mag. 2040 02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:16,280 Podcast happen. If you enjoyed today's episode, 2041 02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:19,200 a quick five star review on Apple podcast or Spotify helps 2042 02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:22,400 people find this show and we read every single one. 2043 02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:25,600 You can find muchmoretrackandfieldcoverage@sidiousmag.com 2044 02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:28,000 and you can follow along across all of Sidious Mag social 2045 02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:29,520 channels. We'll see you next time. 2046 02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:34,600 Thanks again for listening. We're back with. 2047 02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:38,200 Bandits Head of Experiences Tim Rossi for more on Bandits 2048 02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:41,040 unsponsored project. So when we. 2049 02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:44,640 Look at the roster of athletes who have come through the 2050 02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:48,600 Unsponsored project. In certain cases, athletes 2051 02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:53,280 graduate and then they go on and get professional contracts for 2052 02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:57,360 from major sportswear and footwear companies. 2053 02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,160 What is that process been like over the last couple years? 2054 02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:02,480 Yeah, it's been really, really cool to see. 2055 02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:05,880 It's part of what we talk about as success of the Unsponsored 2056 02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:07,840 project. We want to get to the point 2057 02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:11,040 where Bandit will have athletes in the future, but right now the 2058 02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:13,760 Unsponsored Project is our primary athlete support 2059 02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:18,120 mechanism and we want people to be able to go and get those full 2060 02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:19,880 time long term sponsorship deals. 2061 02:07:19,880 --> 02:07:23,320 So at this point, over the three years, we've had 11 total people 2062 02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,200 of the roughly 100 that we've supported as part of the 2063 02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:29,840 unsponsored project go and get signed by a variety of different 2064 02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:31,880 brands. And it's different every single 2065 02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:33,840 time. I often times like to go back to 2066 02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:37,440 Trevor Bassett, who made the Olympics in 2024, was an 2067 02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:40,360 unsponsored project athlete when competing in Eugene. 2068 02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,200 And then the next year, we actually were supporting Trevor 2069 02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:47,640 on an extended unsponsored project style support contract. 2070 02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:49,720 And he gave me a call in March or April. 2071 02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:51,880 I can't remember exactly what month it was, but he's like, 2072 02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:54,680 hey, Adidas is offering me a deal. 2073 02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:56,680 I'm like, hell yeah, dude, that's super, super awesome. 2074 02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:59,920 That's exactly what we want. And now he's still competing 2075 02:07:59,920 --> 02:08:02,920 under the Adidas umbrella. And it it's really, really 2076 02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:05,720 amazing to see. We'll have more on Bandits 2077 02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:08,200 Unsponsored project in the coming weeks on the CD Smack 2078 02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:10,440 podcast and in the Lab Count newsletter.