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I'm Preet Majethia. 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,920 I'm Paul Hoff Mahoney. We got Polly throws on because 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,080 he was at the SEC Championships this past weekend, but also 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,320 arguably the biggest performance of the weekend came in the 26 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:42,840 women's shot put. So we will have our throws 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,720 expert on to explain to the masses why this is such a big 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,160 deal. But before we get into the 29 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Shanghai Diamond League, or Kachao as I learned it was 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,280 pronounced, not Kekiao, which is I think what I said all of the 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,360 last episode, Kachao. Before we get into that, we've 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,759 got some fun news stories to unpack. 33 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:13,600 And right now the talk of the Track World happens to be the 34 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:21,160 North Carolina high school state championship, the NC HSAA 8A 35 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,600 state championship. If you open up Twitter, no meet 36 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:32,000 has had bigger talk. In fact, it's only about one 37 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,600 race. There's it does got it got 38 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,400 coverage in the New York Times. I think the video clip that 39 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,600 we're going to be talking about has been seen over 8 or 40 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,920 9,000,000 times. And what I'm talking about is 41 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:52,160 that at the NCHS AA8A State Championship in Greensboro, NC, 42 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,080 Mallard Creek High School appeared to be on its way to 43 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,120 winning their 5th consecutive state title. 44 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 That's combining indoor and outdoor titles when all of a 45 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,640 sudden, Anchor Neon Brown held up five fingers to the air in 46 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,520 his left hand in the final two to three meters of the entire 47 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,920 race of the four by 4 as a way to signal 5 championships. 48 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,240 And then the moment he crossed the finish line, an official 49 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,360 raised the yellow flag and signaled that he would be 50 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,320 disqualified for the relay for unsportsmanlike conduct, costing 51 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:30,040 Mallard Creek 10 points and the team title, which then went to 52 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Jordan High School instead. I have never heard of any of 53 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,760 these schools before this weekend. 54 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,560 I've never heard of any of the athletes involved. 55 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,840 But now I'm all in because I needed to find out what ends up 56 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,680 happening because I think there's discussions of this 57 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,680 thing going into court. There's been appeals filed. 58 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,440 There's been people going back and looking at photos of other 59 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,240 races at this meet, and there's tons of contacts, I think, 60 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,520 around this whole entire thing. But let me start off. 61 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,160 I guess you both are familiar with what I'm talking about, 62 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,240 right? Preet, I guess like, what was 63 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,960 your first impression seeing this video pop onto your 64 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,240 timeline? I was, I mean, I saw it. 65 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,240 I was like, this is bonkers. And it also remind me we, we 66 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,320 obviously had this conversation during the indoor season when 67 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Shapiso Massalela got dequeued and we had quite a long chat 68 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,600 about, you know, what's a DQ? How should you determine ADQ for 69 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,480 unsportsmanlike celebrations? And I think the conclusion we 70 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,320 reached back then was, yes, there is a line somewhere, but 71 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,120 you know, you, you shouldn't be intimidating towards another 72 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,320 athlete, aggressive towards another athlete, etcetera. 73 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,520 But at the same time, celebration is what part is what 74 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,680 makes the sport, you know, an attractive watch. 75 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,520 And I think we then we then also had the, the discussion of like, 76 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,240 the rules are just not very clear. 77 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,440 It's so subjective and they're not applied consistently from 78 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,160 meet to meet. And I think that's part of the 79 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,600 the discussion here that we come back to, right? 80 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,120 That like this, this is just bonkers. 81 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,560 And there's there's also this discussion that's even crazier 82 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,240 that apparently the reason why he was DQ D on this occasion was 83 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,080 not specifically because of this celebration, but because when 84 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,800 that same athlete won the 300m hurdles, he celebrated in a 85 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,400 slightly more aggressive way towards some of his competitors. 86 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,200 And that is what he was apparently given a warning. 87 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,720 Now his coach said, you know, typically if there's a warning 88 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,480 given, then the coach would also be informed. 89 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,920 The coach was not informed of this warning. 90 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,000 And I think there's been some more thing sort of quotes today 91 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,840 saying there was no warning whatsoever. 92 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:50,520 And and then obviously after the four by four, it was this is 93 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,240 your second warning. You're DQ D, right? 94 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,680 This is your second, second offence. 95 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,280 So that I think is also a bit ridiculous. 96 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,520 It's got to be formal if if that's if that's the case. 97 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Paul, did you just think, all right, now we're just rage 98 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,240 baiting by tweeting out this video for folks because we've we 99 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,840 know, we know the game when there's a high school DQ, 100 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,440 whether it was the guy in Detroit or in Michigan a couple 101 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,480 years ago, the Massalela, like we look at the numbers. 102 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,880 You think, all right, like this is going to stir up the bait. 103 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Of course we're going to repost it. 104 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 But did you think that this would be as big of a deal as 105 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:33,480 it's become? I mean, I think it makes sense 106 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,360 why it did because it is just so absurd. 107 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,680 And like with the obviously the, the Massalela thing went really 108 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,520 big, but there's a difference between like there is a 109 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,160 difference between finger guns and just kind of holding your 110 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,360 hand up and just holding 5 fingers up. 111 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,800 So the fact that there was like absolutely no malice in the 112 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,600 action itself and then it wasn't directed at anyone, like it was 113 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,440 purely celebratory just makes it all the more ridiculous. 114 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,440 I mean, I've seen people say like if he would have done it 2 115 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,560 meters later and he crossed the finish line and then did that, 116 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,040 it would have been fine. But like I don't I don't 117 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,800 understand what difference that would make. 118 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,680 And I think it's, you know, people like being mad on 119 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Twitter. That's an easy thing to be mad 120 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,400 about. It's also an easy thing to be 121 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,080 like, one side you can be mad at the officials, The other side 122 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,680 you can be like, these darn kids have no respect for anyone. 123 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,440 And so there's everyone has something to be mad about with 124 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,280 it. So it's not that surprising that 125 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,240 it went as big as it did. But it is also just just 126 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,080 objectively a very bad decision and very dumb. 127 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,080 That's Twitter. You nailed it that that's how 128 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Twitter exists. It's it's definitely a lot of 129 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,320 lot of outrage on there. So to, you know, piggyback off 130 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,240 of what Preet said, the additional context I think after 131 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,720 the video starts going viral is that, you know, the official 132 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,600 claim that she'd warned Brown, who was the kid on the anchor 133 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:18,320 leg after his 300m hurdles, when earlier that day, I think later 134 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,360 on, it turns out, I think someone looked at the video and 135 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:26,280 he was actually like flexing and posing for cameras after the 136 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,240 race. So that's sort of like when the 137 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,640 the warning was issued, it wasn't even towards his 138 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,080 competitors. It was towards the cameras, 139 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,080 which is I think, what everyone seems to do at some of these 140 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,960 meets. So then the coach, Sam 141 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,960 Willoughby, said no warning was ever communicated to him or to 142 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,080 Brown, and there's no video of a warning being given. 143 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,320 The kid said that he never received one. 144 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,000 And then the head official acknowledged that she'd have 145 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,800 preferred to reinstate Brown but felt bound to take her officials 146 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,840 word, which then has also just now started to unpack. 147 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,280 There are people who have served as officials at North Carolina 148 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,760 high school meets getting, you know, more attention than I 149 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,560 think they've ever sort of thought they would get because 150 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:14,640 they, I think, share a bit about how, you know, some of this, you 151 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,040 know, once the flag is raised, then it goes through a head 152 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,040 umpire, then a referee and then a full jury of appeals. 153 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,840 And so this wasn't necessarily technically, I guess, just one 154 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,640 official acting alone, but multiple people were actually 155 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:34,080 involved in this decision. So even that I guess like how I 156 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,360 can't believe that that many people saw an actual offense in 157 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,240 this kid raising, you know, 5 fingers to the air. 158 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,720 And then, yeah, I guess the Internet sleuths who are 159 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,760 fantastic at just sort of going back and looking at other videos 160 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,920 and photos from this meet just went off and and found that like 161 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,800 there were other kids at this meet also celebrating in other 162 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,560 different ways. One kid, I think in the 1500 or 163 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:08,800 1600, whatever it might be, had like a one raised down the whole 164 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,200 entire home stretch and like someone can make the argument 165 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,560 that that would have been, you know, probably a more egregious 166 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:20,400 thing to to these. Officials would have hated 167 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Parvez Khan. Yeah, these these officials, I 168 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:29,680 guess we're lucky that they are not at the top level of the 169 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:32,760 sport because I'm sure, you know, no, Lyles would have no 170 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,840 races on his record if these were the officials at the top 171 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,880 level. But yeah, so I, I actually have 172 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,520 seen very few people defending the officials here. 173 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:50,480 But yeah, it's I guess the conclusion isn't out there yet. 174 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,400 It seems like. What would Paul, what was the 175 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,200 last thing that you saw? I think the last thing I saw 176 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:02,160 this morning or this afternoon was that the school that was DQ 177 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Ed that ended up losing the team title, they're like protesting 178 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:12,320 to try and get Mallard Creek. Like they don't want Jordan was 179 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,560 the other high school. Like they don't want them 180 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,680 stripped of the title but they just want to be recognized as Co 181 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:22,560 champions basically in the team race I believe is what I saw 182 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:25,840 this morning. Yeah. 183 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,440 Well, to be continued. I guess we'll follow up on this 184 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:33,320 story as it as it develops. But yeah, we're just kind of at 185 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,240 this point where Usain Bolt crosses the finish line at the 186 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Olympics, banging on his chest and and showboating to his 187 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,400 competitors. And that's considered iconic. 188 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,800 But when a high school kid just raises one hand at at his state 189 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,040 meet, it gets stripped of a title kind of kind of crazy 190 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,320 sometimes how power hungry these officials can get. 191 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,560 This is, again, I guess to the point of like, when is AI going 192 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:59,360 to come for the officials in track and field? 193 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,680 Because you go to these meets sometimes I'm, I've had this 194 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,480 thought and I think I've vocalized it before on this 195 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,400 podcast that I think like there's going to be come a day 196 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,000 maybe in 10 years where we're going to have a deficiency of 197 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,040 officials because you go to these meets and they're all old 198 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,640 folks. And I'm like, there are very few 199 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,040 young track and field officials, I think. 200 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,640 And so, yeah, but I think we we need, we need Gen. 201 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,240 Gen. Z needs to get into the 202 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,880 officials business and track Paul, now that you've graduated, 203 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,720 you should just become a full time track official. 204 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,680 OK, that's that's a career path I hadn't considered yet, but. 205 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:49,000 All right, Let's move on to our next story, which is one that 206 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,440 dropped today, which is Athos has announced that they are 207 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:59,440 expanding to two meets in 2026 with a brand new championship 208 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,840 format. Prize money and winners in this 209 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:09,160 year's Athletes Series have a chance of also getting equity in 210 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,760 the league. So it will be returning to Icon 211 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Stadium in New York City on Friday, October 2nd. 212 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,520 There will be a second meet as well. 213 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,520 That second meet, I believe what the rumour is, is going to be 214 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,760 before the New York City meet. It looks like it'll also be 215 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,560 international just based on some of the language that is on the 216 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:35,560 website where they're saying they're going, you know, pretty 217 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:39,560 global. So Icon has played host to Athos 218 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:42,520 the last two years. So this will be the third year. 219 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,040 But now, you know, we've seen Alexis Zohanian spending a lot 220 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,960 of time out in London. I think it could be London. 221 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,680 He's involved also, I think with the Chelsea women's soccer team 222 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,280 out there. What's London like in October? 223 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,160 Not warm, to put it mildly. Well. 224 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,560 OK. Last weekend of September, 225 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:06,240 because I think that to be. To be fair, right, I will say we 226 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,640 have also had heat waves in October in recent years. 227 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,000 So I'm not going to say 100%. It could be anything, but it 228 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,800 could be really terrible. But the other question I have is 229 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,640 there are no stadiums in London to house this thing at the 230 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:19,560 moment. Really so? 231 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,120 Well, nothing significant, you know, not even like, I don't 232 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,320 think there's even a 5000 seater stadium in London. 233 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Like, because obviously the London Stadium where they have 234 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,680 the London Diamond League is a football stadium and it costs 235 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:37,160 £3,000,000 to convert it into a, into a, into the track stadium. 236 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,320 There's the Crystal Palace one that is the only stadium that 237 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,840 exists, but that needs significant refurbishment. 238 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,320 So I think the track's been refurbished, but the actual 239 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320 grandstand and everything is an absolute mess at the moment. 240 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,680 So I'm not 100% sure that that would be a great venue, but 241 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,200 maybe that is the place, I don't know and they're definitely 242 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,960 investing in that. So as in in general there is 243 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,680 this supposed to be all refurbishment of the place, but 244 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,040 I don't expect isn't. That where they had like some 245 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,400 sort of like runway fashion thing last year was like some. 246 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,960 That was it was, it was announced and it never happened 247 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,720 as far. As oh it did OK wow it. 248 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,160 Did it never never actually happened? 249 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,600 No, it was announced and then and then nothing ever happened. 250 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,000 So but yes, so that maybe is the only place in London. 251 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,600 Otherwise you're kind of going outside of London for any 252 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,840 reasonably sized track, so I don't. 253 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Interesting. Yeah, I I figured, oh, they 254 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,400 probably know what the venue is and, and kudos to them, I guess 255 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,960 where they know to start. I think a bit more small when it 256 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,160 comes to these venues. It looks great on TV when you 257 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,200 have 5000 people packed into Icon Stadium for the night of 258 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,800 track around 5000 I think is what Icon's capacity is. 259 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,920 And so you kind of need that size for London, which you said 260 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,760 isn't really that well. Maybe a Crystal Palace, I mean, 261 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,320 that has more seats, but it but it isn't in a, it isn't in the 262 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,880 greatest, greatest state. But yeah, I mean, I suppose the 263 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,520 other factor could be that if you think about it, if it's like 264 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,200 London, Can you imagine like I think Keely there, they'll fill, 265 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,880 they'll fill 5000 seats pretty easily. 266 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,720 I imagine if, especially if Keely's done something special 267 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,320 over the summer in Birmingham or, or with the world record or 268 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,000 something. So yeah, I, I think there's a 269 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,080 decent chance that that, that that would help help sell a few 270 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,680 tickets to say the least. But my other thought on the 271 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,960 second location would probably be Austin, but it doesn't seem 272 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,800 like this like there was some sort of video I think that 273 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:44,880 someone shared online about site visit or tour about for a new 274 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,520 track because I don't know if they would do Mike Meyer Stadium 275 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,640 where the NCAA Championships were held couple years back. 276 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,760 I actually like that venue a lot. 277 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,360 I think that there could, you know, use a, you know, we could 278 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,160 use a pro meet at that stadium. It's a very, very nice complex, 279 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,319 but that would be my second guess. 280 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:09,800 And then you know, Miami would be 1/3 Miami or Miramar. 281 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,280 Well, there's that. There's that new stadium in 282 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,079 Georgia which looks really nice, actually the the one in Athens. 283 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:17,640 Yeah, but that's the thing. It's sort of I think you need a 284 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,720 bigger big city to get the turn out. 285 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,079 I don't think too many fans like the New York City running 286 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:28,040 community and and and high school and college track 287 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:33,560 population is there. But I don't know about Athens, 288 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,200 GA for a meet of this caliber. It's a great, it looks like a 289 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,720 great facility, but I don't know if it would be there. 290 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,240 How do we feel? Like pull up if it was in 291 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,920 Athens. Yeah, exactly. 292 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,920 So a lot of the stuff is the same where the two meets are 293 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,200 going to feature 7 track and field events. 294 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,400 So 6 on the track and one women's long jump as of right 295 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,560 now. Sorry Paul, but doesn't sound 296 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,920 like there have been throws added to this year's meet. 297 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,080 Those events were the hundred 100m hurdles, 204 hundred, 800 298 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,600 mile and long jump. And the long jump was only added 299 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,200 last year where they had the qualifying round in Times Square 300 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,160 and then the final at ICON during the main program. 6 301 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,000 athletes per event. So all of that is still staying 302 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,040 the same. The different part that they 303 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,200 announced is that the meet's going to be scored over 2 meets 304 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,280 and so the athlete with the highest cumulative points across 305 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:34,120 both meets will win the Athos Championship title, a $25,000 306 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:37,600 bonus, and the Tiffany crown in addition to all of the prize 307 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,640 money accumulated in both of those meets. 308 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,680 Preet your first impression? I guess in our group chat I was 309 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,280 like, this sounds familiar. Yeah, well, there's two things, 310 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,920 right? What is that point system across 311 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,040 2 races? That sounds very familiar. 312 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:58,320 Sounded very similar to Grand Slam recipes yes. 313 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:05,560 And then the second part of that was well, but, but it's supposed 314 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,440 to be scored over 2 meets, but they didn't make it super 315 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,160 explicit. But it's still if you win the 316 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,800 race, you still get $65,000 of prize money out anyone at each 317 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,520 meet that. Well, that's certainly the 318 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,640 impression I get from kind of looking at the fine print here. 319 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,640 And then you want the $25,000 bonus for doing the best at both 320 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,200 meets. But then that incentive kind of 321 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,200 disappears quite quickly for me. And I think what we might find 322 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,040 is there'll be some athletes they'll get, if they have one in 323 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,400 Europe, one meet in Europe and one meet in the US I'm sure 324 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,400 they'll get a bunch of athletes who'll come to the meet in 325 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,360 Europe, but not to the one in the US And there'll be ones that 326 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,120 will come to the meet in the US and not come to the meet in 327 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:47,880 Europe. So I don't know how that's all 328 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,040 going to pan out, but. I don't know, because it's, 329 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,040 it's, it's the fields are so small and I feel like if you 330 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,440 sign on the dotted line, you know, what was it? 331 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,400 It was, it was, well, it was 35 athletes the first year because 332 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,680 Brittany Brown doubled in both. Maybe you end up having a couple 333 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:12,120 athletes double, but it it doesn't sound as outrageous to, 334 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,000 you know, book that many flights for you know what, what is it 40 335 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,480 people or something like that? Yeah, Yeah. 336 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,440 No, I mean, in that sense, no. But I guess in the sense of it 337 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,280 will be the end of a very long season. 338 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:31,400 And I, I can see, for example, I can see Akili wanting to do a 339 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,240 meet if it's in London, right? I can't see her having 340 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,600 potentially run 2 championships, 2 or 3 championships over the 341 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,840 course of the summer, then wanting to do another meet in 342 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,400 New York. Money talks pre. 343 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,200 She did she. Showed up last year and also 344 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,680 like the the other thing too is like, I think we got to also 345 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,480 take a step back and remember it's like we think of it so much 346 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,720 from a performance standpoint. These are exhibitions like 347 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,760 that's that's all it really is. Like look at the mile race at at 348 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,680 last year's meet, like for Faith Capyegan, Gudof's a guy like 349 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,760 they were locked in on just sort of like a battle for whatever, 350 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,200 whatever it was $60,000 up in the front of the race. 351 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,520 But you know, beyond that, everyone else was, you know, 352 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:21,760 jogging to the most lucrative 435 mile of their lives. 353 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:30,640 And so that's sort of where, no, I, I think if you are get like, 354 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,600 granted an invitation to this thing and you have this high 355 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,760 earning potential, you'll commit to jogging, you know, 2 races if 356 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:44,160 you really have to. And that's sort of where the 357 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,400 hardest part for this thing has been just sort of unlocking the, 358 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,880 the high performance stakes. It it it has proven that it can 359 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:59,000 put on a show, but just from the actual competition, the results 360 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,800 have not mattered in the greater scheme of things. 361 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,600 And that partially also is because it comes at the very end 362 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,920 of the season. Yeah, no, agreed. 363 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,880 You can see, I mean, obviously there were a couple of athletes 364 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,800 that did put on a bit of a show. I think Brittany Brown run 365 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,800 really fast. And yeah, there are a couple of 366 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,560 athletes that that ran well. But yeah, it was never, it was 367 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,440 always going to be tough in those conditions as well. 368 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,120 In the Could you imagine if you're Brittany Brown, who has 369 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,240 made a ton of money at these needs over the last two years, 370 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,600 making big money at the World Ultimate Championships with a 371 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:36,960 with a good performance and then just crushing it over the 100 372 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,840 and the 200 once again at these Athos meets. 373 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,720 Like you probably end up making the majority of your annual 374 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,240 income at 3 meets, a World Ultimate Championships and then 375 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,680 the two Athos meets. And maybe if she's good enough 376 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,360 to double in both and you have two World Ultimate Championship 377 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:01,080 events and then you do 2 at the Athos meets. 378 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,320 Damn, you could really bring in some some good money. 379 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,640 But here's the other thing too, is like the money part has been 380 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,680 a little confusing based off of this press release. 381 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,200 Like we're going off of just, I think what is on the Athos 382 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,680 landing page right now, Paul, you did the math and some of it 383 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,360 is is a little confusing. Yeah, well, it says on their 384 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:26,400 website that like if an athlete sweeps both races, the maximum 385 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:34,400 prize pool is $115,000, but 65,000 + 65,000 for winning both 386 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:40,200 races, plus the $25,000 bonus is 155,000. 387 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,520 So I don't know where that $40,000 disappeared to in their 388 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,840 math. But yeah, so that's why it's 389 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,560 there is kind of a little bit of confusion, like how does the 390 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,640 prize money totals actually work? 391 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,840 Like, is that actually just a very egregious calculation 392 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,040 error? Or or is the 65,000 from winning 393 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,520 both meet or sort of being the doing the best in your event at 394 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,840 both meets? The $25,000 bonus is for the 1 395 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,920 athlete out of the six or seven disciplines that does the best. 396 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,080 And then then maybe there's some other bonus or the Tiffany crown 397 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,120 is worth something I don't. Know that's what I don't want to 398 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,280 know. It's just like can we put a 399 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,840 dollar amount on this Tiffany crown? 400 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,920 I haven't looked on eBay or anything like that to see if in 401 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,000 the last, you know, two years of the 13 crowns that have been 402 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,400 handed out, have any of them resold? 403 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,120 Because if there's a good money value in there, might as well. 404 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,680 I've if you told me that crown is $40,000 already, I have 405 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,360 $40,000 in the crown. IA 115,000 just doesn't make any 406 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,080 sense at all. Like I don't know where they 407 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,520 could have possibly gotten that number from SO. 408 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,840 So we'll have to just wait for further clarification from, 409 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,320 yeah, Athos and then, well, maybe I don't know. 410 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,120 Then there's the equity component to it too. 411 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,120 They're going to offer that to select athletes as well. 412 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,120 But yeah, that's the the latest development for for Athos in 413 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,480 2026. So 2 events, you can mark them 414 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,040 on your calendar. One for sure, New York City 415 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,560 October 2nd. The other part of it that's 416 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:24,080 missing from this is or even as if we could went back five 417 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,240 months ago. They were touting the team 418 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,840 concept and it doesn't seem like that has taken in this time 419 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:36,480 around, which I sort of had my my doubts about before, but as 420 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,080 of right now, that doesn't seem to be part of the 2026 plans 421 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,920 right now. Maybe they will introduce it 422 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,040 like if you've got 6 athletes in each event, then maybe it is 423 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,840 just one athlete from each event forms A-Team and you have 6 424 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,960 teams that way. Maybe they'll just artificially 425 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,120 create teams that way that that'd be the only way that I 426 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,840 think they could. Maybe they'll announce that at a 427 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,600 later stage as an additional component and that maybe is 428 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,560 where their additional prize money is coming from if your 429 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,560 team wins or something. I don't know but. 430 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Although it was it that's that's so different than the whole, we 431 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,160 want to make this the F1 of track where if you are Mercedes, 432 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,120 if you're Coca-Cola or whatever it is that you have a team. 433 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,120 And they were probably they were envisioning having it around all 434 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,560 of the footwear brands. But I think from the gecko, 435 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,000 there were holes just sort of in the logic of being able to field 436 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,960 full teams. And you know, if you're Nike, 437 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,880 who's your 100 sprinter or your 200 sprinter, if you've got 438 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,680 Melissa Jefferson Wooden and you have Shakira Richardson on the 439 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,520 track. So if you're Puma, you've got so 440 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,680 many different options or New Balance like so I think I think 441 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,160 like that still sort of needs a little bit of workshopping, but 442 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,040 it's cool that they've, you know, found the ability to come 443 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:59,040 back for for a third year. 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All all these cases always 483 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,640 involve a Florida man who was supplying performance enhancing 484 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,640 drugs to track and field athletes and he was using an 485 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:42,920 alias online doctor Toy TOI. And it was a fake apparently 486 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,120 female virtual training medical persona that he had cultivated 487 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,280 for years. And he was the one who was 488 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,840 distributing the the drugs and pre, I guess what's the the 489 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,480 SparkNotes version of this? Yeah, so this, yeah, this this 490 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:07,080 bizarre online persona was used by this this doctor or so-called 491 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,280 doctor to distribute the drugs. And yeah. 492 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:16,520 And then, of course, MRE according to the the according 493 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:22,240 to the the the article, who was, you know, everyone knows to be 494 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480 Ray Edwards, Monsavious Ray Edwards, because he's openly 495 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,080 admitted it that he was the person himself is the one who 496 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,440 then connected more embracing with with this, I assume with 497 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,840 the online persona. But it just it's just wild like 498 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,280 it. I mean, it gets wild every time 499 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,160 you hear it, right? But it's it's just. 500 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,240 Yeah, it was really bizarre, right. 501 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,560 So what was it? It was the order of of 502 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:55,840 operations was and my ray goes to the the the AI doctor and 503 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,280 then the AI doctor goes to Marvin. 504 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,360 How did it? How did it work? 505 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,440 Well, I think Ray introduced Marvin to the AI doctor. 506 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,360 I think his initial answer says Marvin gets the gets the drugs 507 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,920 from the AI doctor, I guess, and and then tries to inject 508 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,560 himself. It goes horribly wrong, he tells 509 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,920 Dennis Mitchell. Dennis Mitchell reports him and 510 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,200 and here we are. Well, then after that, Marvin 511 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,440 cooperates with the investigators, gets a load of 512 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,120 time off, then has another whereabouts failure. 513 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,160 And so then like, he ends up still being suspended. 514 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,720 But the guy who was posing as a doctor ended up being Paul 515 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Askew. And he's scheduled to plead 516 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,160 guilty May 26th to the sports doping conspiracy. 517 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:50,160 May 26th is next Tuesday, which will be just days after the 518 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,080 Enhanced Games takes place this weekend in Las Vegas. 519 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,720 Final predictions on what they end up running in this 100? 520 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:06,720 Bree, what do you think? I'm gonna go Fred runs 997. 521 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,320 OK, Paul. I mean, so Fred still hasn't 522 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,960 tested positive yet. So we're still under the 523 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240 assumption he hasn't actually taken anything and he's just 524 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,920 getting a bag. Yeah, you could assume that. 525 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,560 I guess that that's been an interesting part to this whole 526 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,480 entire thing where there's been a lot of this press around the 527 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,840 enhanced games. Vanity Fair I think had an 528 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:38,640 article they, they did a good job, I guess of getting a couple 529 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,400 mainstream news stories in all of them. 530 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,760 Fred has been absent from doing any of the interviews. 531 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,080 I I saw like ABBC Panorama feature on YouTube the other 532 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,800 day, but he's not the track athlete they've been 533 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,040 interviewing. They've been interviewing 534 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,760 Mamadou Fall, who I think did say that he would be enhanced. 535 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,200 The only thing we've seen, I guess from Fred and any sort of 536 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,680 banned substance is he was at the New York Stock Exchange for 537 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,240 when enhanced, I guess went public and he was hugging a big 538 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,960 like inflatable vial of testosterone and snapped a photo 539 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,320 with it. That's the closest we've seen to 540 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,760 Fred next to anything nefarious in this whole entire thing. 541 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:33,200 So, yeah, I, I, I guess we don't even know if USADA will be on 542 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760 site at this thing. You would, you would think, 543 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720 right, Like, all right, we're going to go like if you're 544 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,840 USADA, you dispatch agents to the enhanced games for this 545 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,480 weekend and you test everybody and then if they test positive 546 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,320 for something, then they get a ban. 547 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,120 But that's the whole thing is this whole thing has been, it's 548 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,080 a marketing scheme. We've talked about that before 549 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,440 where they want to just pump people, you know, links and and 550 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,320 and, you know, infomercials for whatever, you know, peptides and 551 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,480 stuff they'll be plugging. And the sports side of it is 552 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,800 just gonna is a secondary story. So we've already just kind of 553 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,960 seen just the money grab side of things start to take effect. 554 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,000 But OK, so you can presume that Fred, Fred's running. 555 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,600 You can. Yeah, I guess you can presume 556 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,960 clean. I I mean, you know, we always, 557 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,760 Fred's been really good when he's made the championships that 558 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,920 kind of like peeking and the early seasons maybe haven't 559 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,040 broken his way as much the last couple years. 560 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,800 But like, he's already suspended. 561 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,280 So his timeline for the season like this is the most important 562 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,800 thing for him. So I'm going to be a little more 563 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,679 optimistic and say maybe he runs like 989 or something. 564 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:54,000 Yeah. OK, I mean he's. 565 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,960 Theoretically, there's what it's like $1,000,000 world record 566 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,760 bonus. Yeah. 567 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,560 Like he's, I guess, like this is a big thing to chase and this is 568 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,400 going to be the most important thing he's going to do this 569 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,720 year. So who's to say he isn't like 570 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,800 peeking really well for this or something that's. 571 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,840 True. And who's also to say that this 572 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,320 track isn't short? Like that's still my my my. 573 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,600 Well, they have wind gauges there. 574 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,840 Right, like the venue, I'm impressed by them being able to 575 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,560 build like this Olympic sized pool and this track in Vegas so 576 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,320 quickly. The videos of it have been so 577 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,040 it's it'll be an interesting venue, but I'm going to have to 578 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:41,320 I feel like because it was so harsh on it from the get go that 579 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,640 I said that no one would break 10. 580 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,440 I'm going to have to stick with it. 581 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:54,720 I think I'm going to go ten O 7 like it's going to be that 582 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:58,440 close. And yeah, I just don't know how 583 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,720 they're going to spin it in a positive way when they fall 584 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,000 short. And here's The thing is that 585 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,080 this past weekend we just saw these crazy times being run and 586 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,520 sometimes all you need is just a little bit of wind and and it it 587 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:18,640 looks really impressive. So if like is is Fred Curly a 588 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,560 more talented athlete at this level at this point in the 589 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,840 season right now, then who's the guy from USC? 590 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,360 Eddie. Eddie and Kedia. 591 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,800 Eddie. Yeah, Eddie and Kedia, who ran 592 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,640 974 this past weekend with a 5.6m per second tailwind to win 593 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,960 the 100 at the Big 10 Championships. 594 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,280 They they really should have put the enhanced games in Lincoln NE 595 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:48,640 Huge missed opportunity. Because Big 10s was wind dated 596 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,360 all around. The 200 was plus 7.5 and they 597 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,200 only ran like 20 O 3 but I don't think I've ever seen. 598 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,440 There's probably some high school meets in Texas that have 599 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,000 had stuff in the sevens before, but like. 600 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,560 I'm. Looking at these times. 601 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:11,600 Where Madison White won the 200 in 21.786 meters per second win. 602 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,200 Brianna Selby won the women's hundred in 10743.8. 603 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,360 So man, I mean, they're all not legal times, but that's fun to 604 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,720 watch. So I guess put the wind turbines 605 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,440 behind these guys in in Vegas, like, because if it's an indoor 606 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,600 sort of venue that they built out, I don't know where you're 607 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,560 going to get the wind. So yeah, Preet, will you be 608 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,520 tuning in? Well, no, not live, certainly, 609 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:49,800 because I'll be firmly asleep. But yeah, I guess I'll, I'll 610 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,600 check the results in the morning and see if there's anything 611 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,400 worth watching, but no. It got to the point where like 612 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,520 at the. Very, I don't really, I don't 613 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,920 really want to give them a view, right. 614 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,320 I just don't want to give them like it's like I don't want to 615 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,040 add to their viewing statistics that they're going to going to 616 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,240 put out afterwards. But I guess I probably will. 617 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,480 That's the thing. It's like at the very beginning, 618 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,240 everyone's like, don't even bother covering this thing, 619 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,080 ignore it. But once they signed Fred, it 620 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,160 just became too big of a thing to ignore. 621 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,760 Like you got a world champion, A2 time Olympic medalist in the 622 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,000 100 willingly signing up for this thing. 623 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,040 It's garnering all this mainstream news. 624 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,800 Like your friends who don't watch the Diamond League or 625 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,680 don't pay attention to track will likely stumble upon the 626 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,080 result or stream of the enhanced games this weekend and text you 627 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,760 about it. Like that's the one track thing 628 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,240 you'll probably get from a non track fan friend this upcoming 629 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,760 weekend. So yeah, that'll be that'll be 630 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,600 that. So. 631 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,520 What do we think the women's field is going to run? 632 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,080 Yeah, that's a, that's another one because it's a bunch of 633 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,080 nobodies, a bunch of washed up nobodies. 634 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,360 And I think that they'll end up running like 11-1. 635 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,440 That's my that's my guess. I'm not sure they get to that 636 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,960 11211. Three, yeah, that might be a bit 637 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,520 generous, but. Wow. 638 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,000 OK, All right. Oh, man. 639 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,240 Well, look at that. We're we're 30 minutes into this 640 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,280 week in track and field. We've talked North Carolina 641 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,640 State championship, we've talked enhanced games, we've talked 642 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:24,000 Atlas. Let's I think it's time we 643 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,760 finally move into the action that took place this past 644 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,560 weekend. And so we'll start with the 645 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,720 Kachow, the Kachow Diamond League that took place. 646 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,760 And let's not, let's not bury the lead. 647 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,480 Let's go into the biggest performance that took place this 648 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,520 past weekend. Paul, this is your moment of 649 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,320 shine. Give it to US. 650 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,280 Women's shot put historic mark was thrown. 651 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,520 Very historic mark in the women's shot put this one 652 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,000 Diamond League season opener for all these women and a lot of 653 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,800 them had competed outdoors, but Chase Jackson was the only 1 / 654 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,160 20 meters so far this year and it was a good but kind of slow 655 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,080 comp through the 1st 4 rounds. And then around 5, Chase Jackson 656 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,800 goes 2046, which is a season's best. 657 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,840 Sarah Minton goes 2042, I believe. 658 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,080 On the next throw, the world champion Jessica Shoulder comes 659 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:26,440 into the ring and goes 2109, which is a new Dutch record. 660 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,920 It's the best throw, the first time we've seen a woman over 21 661 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:36,880 meters in 14 years. Valerie Adams through 2111 in 662 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,200 Luzerne on July 17th, 2012, which is a date that now has 663 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,680 been just absolutely ingrained into my memory over the last 664 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:52,360 three days, 5051 days between 21 meter throws. 665 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,520 And it was. It's really interesting 'cause 666 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,480 like obviously Jessica's the world champion. 667 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,160 She had thrown 2069 before, but of that big three of herself, 668 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,360 Chase Jackson, Sarah Minton, she was probably looked at as like 669 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,480 the least likely to be the one over the 21 meter barrier 670 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:16,080 because Chase through 2095 and 2094 last summer, a couple times 671 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,600 in the 20 meter 80 range as well. 672 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,960 Sarah Minton at the 2024 Diamond League final barely fouled what 673 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,400 was almost certainly a 21 meter throw. 674 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,520 But then Jessica just comes out here and so early in the outdoor 675 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,120 season and like China travel is, you know, they probably have 676 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,520 gotten with this early season Diamond League kind of becoming 677 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,080 a pattern. They've probably gotten travel 678 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,400 kind of figured out, but it's still not a perfect situation to 679 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,240 get over there. And on top of that, like with no 680 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,680 shot put at the World Ultimate Championships, like if you're a 681 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,640 shot putter, like you're going to take up every diamond. 682 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,160 League opportunity. I mean, they do that anyway 683 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,200 because like, that's just how they need to kind of are more 684 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,760 reliant on prize money than other events. 685 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:10,160 But yeah, this this mark is just so historically significant. 686 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,560 And kind of the same way a lot of people are talking about like 687 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,480 now that sub 2 is broken in the marathon, it's like now 688 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,560 everyone's going to be doing it. I don't think it's necessarily 689 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,760 that level like I think this is still going to be a a rarity, 690 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,960 but I do think it does kind of whatever extra motivation Chase 691 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,680 Jackson needed to get those last five centimeters. 692 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,200 I think it's it's going to be there now like it never has been 693 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,040 before. So. 694 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,360 So you tell. Me comment sections on Polly 695 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,720 Throws like they were calling Jessica Shoulders, like the 696 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:52,520 Roger Bannister of the women's shop Hood that like this is 697 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,800 going to open the floodgates. No, nobody is saying that. 698 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,320 I'm I'm I'm hoping I did. I think I saw one post where it 699 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,880 was like 21 meters is the new 20 meters. 700 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,600 And I'm like, that is not true at all. 701 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:13,120 But but yeah, it's it's very exciting to see the frustrating 702 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,200 part about all this is an unbelievable mark. 703 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,360 But as I'll talk about in the lap count tomorrow morning, 704 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:25,760 Jessica Shoulder is now tied for 29th in world history, despite 705 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,880 the fact that she just threw something that hadn't been seen 706 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,760 in 14 years. This is sort of where now us, 707 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,240 you know, we're big throws guys, but we're not as big throws guys 708 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,440 as you. We get to ask you some questions 709 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,840 about this thing as to like, you know, why this is such a big 710 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,200 deal. So I'll start off with from a 711 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,080 technical standpoint, I guess when you watch videos of so many 712 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,720 of those throws that you know were you know better than her 713 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:59,040 historically, she's got a different technique than most 714 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,640 than than everyone else. Is this like the world record 715 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,320 for her technique? Yeah, so she is. 716 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,960 She's the first woman to throw 21 meters with the rotational 717 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,160 shot. The the men were much. 718 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,040 Nowadays you pretty much see all of the top men and women 719 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,960 spinning in the shot, but the women or the men were very much 720 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,680 early adapters to that as opposed to the women. 721 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:30,200 The first Yumisi Hogan Leye, who just got, she got married a 722 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,200 couple weeks ago and I forget what her new last name is, but 723 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,080 the German woman who won the Olympic title in 2024. 724 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,880 She was the first woman to ever win an Olympic title with the 725 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,960 rotational technique. Jessica Shoulders now the first 726 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,760 woman over 21 meters with the rotational technique. 727 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,560 So it's some. And now, like with Gong Li Zhao 728 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:58,600 retiring last year, the great Chinese thrower who I think had 729 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,040 11 or 12 international major championship medals in her 730 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:10,680 career, there's really only like one or two elite level gliders 731 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,600 still in the women's game, and there's not really any on the 732 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,120 men's side. So yeah, for Jessica, getting 733 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,440 over this barrier with the spin is something we knew was kind of 734 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,880 just a matter of time, but it is definitely significant that 735 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,720 she's the 1st. But coming into this I was 736 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:34,640 looking at Childers P BS I guess on the start list ahead of this 737 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,200 weekend. So she had a better indoor PB 738 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,240 before this than her outdoor. Yeah, so she, she had thrown 739 00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:48,080 2069 I believe in the indoor season in 2025. 740 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,080 And then her outdoor PV was I think somewhere in the 20 741 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,240 forties. But yeah, I mean, it's that's 742 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:01,680 something like I talked about with with Joe Kovacs when we 743 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,000 were doing his Melrose announcement last year is like, 744 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,160 it's not really the biggest difference why we see outdoor 745 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,040 marks usually further than indoor marks is just because 746 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,120 there's less incentive for people to be in really good 747 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,440 shape indoors. There's like less prize money. 748 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,080 The championship meets aren't as big of a deal. 749 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:25,320 And so like Joe said, like, like the men's world record is 2282 750 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,360 indoors, held by Ryan Crowser. The outdoor world record is 751 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,560 2356. But Joe was like, if you needed 752 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,560 a man to throw 23 meters in February and gave him like if 753 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000 four months out you told him you need to throw 23 meters in 754 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,280 February, that would happen. It's just people don't 755 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,040 traditionally structure their seasons like that, so that's why 756 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:51,120 it was kind of, it's not super common that you see someone have 757 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,720 a better PB from the indoor season when they're not usually 758 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,280 in as good of shape as they would be towards the later parts 759 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,520 of the outdoor season. Another not as big throws guy 760 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,880 question for the big throws guy. When you look at just sort of 761 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:13,240 Valerie Adams, like having been like the last thrower to, you 762 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,280 know, hit this mark so long ago. I just remember going to meets 763 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,120 in 2013 and being on the circuit and she was, she's huge. 764 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,440 Like, I mean, it's also she's Steven Adams's sister. 765 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,080 She comes from a very extraordinary athletic family, 766 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,240 super tall. What was she? 767 00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:38,160 She's like over 6 foot right? Yeah, I think so. 65, I think 768 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:46,640 when you look at Jessica, she's 5A and so is that also just 769 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:54,920 something that when you have such different body comps in the 770 00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:01,280 women's shot put that there are limitations or ceilings to how 771 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,080 certain athletes, shorter athletes will be able to throw 772 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,520 in the men's side? Obviously, you know, Ryan's so 773 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,880 much more taller than than Joe, but for a while they had very 774 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,160 comparable marks on the women's side. 775 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,200 Is that also something that's sort of like now with a mark 776 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,960 like this starting to get compressed a bit? 777 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,640 I think I can't speak super well to that in terms of like 778 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,480 historically and like, I don't know off the top of my head, 779 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,560 like how tall Natalia Lisovskaya, the world record 780 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,120 holder is. But I do believe that the 781 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:45,840 prevalence of the spin, it's just it allows for momentum and 782 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,960 like speed and force on the shot to be built in a different way 783 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,280 than the glide, which is kind of just pure strength. 784 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,360 And so, like, I think Sarah Mittens, even shorter than 785 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,240 Jessica's shoulder is Danielle Thomas Dodd, world silver 786 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:05,280 medalist for Jamaica, who's thrown almost 20 meters in her 787 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,360 career. Like she's shorter than both of 788 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,480 them. Like she's really, really short, 789 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,480 but yet can still throw really far. 790 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,000 And so I think the part of that is I think that kind of matches 791 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,640 with the technical shift we've seen in the last decade or so 792 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,320 that it does allow for. You don't have to be this kind 793 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,720 of stereotypical. What was, what's the teacher's 794 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,080 name in Matilda? I know she's a hammer thrower, 795 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,360 but oh, yeah. Miss Trunchbull. 796 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,560 Miss Yeah, you, you don't have to be. 797 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,960 We all knew that. A stereotypical, like you don't 798 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,160 have to look like Miss Trunchbull to be a really great 799 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,200 women's thrower. And I think the spin has played 800 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:53,560 a big part of that. Natalia Liv Lisovkaya, the world 801 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,960 record holder, 62. She's right in line, I guess, 802 00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:01,400 with the big girls, big throws. So what's what's, what's next, I 803 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:07,040 guess, when it comes to to this? So you think we have All right, 804 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,720 fun question. I asked Sebastian Sawway in the 805 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:15,320 next 12 months, how many men will be going under two hours 806 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,600 And he said there will be more. He didn't give a specific number 807 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,320 in the next 12 months. So this time next year, I'll 808 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:28,640 give you next year's Chow Diamond League to count how many 809 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,400 women have thrown over 21 meters. 810 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:39,240 I think minimum one. I would be astounded if Chase 811 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:43,680 Jackson doesn't throw a 5 centimeter PB this year. 812 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,760 I mean she and like it could have happened last year for her, 813 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,880 but I think like the week before USA, she picked up a hand issue 814 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,920 that kind of messed up her performance. 815 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:04,120 Like she's still threw I think 2083 or something in Eugene, but 816 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,840 that hand issue kind of messed that up, messed up her last 817 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,440 couple diamond leagues and then worlds was just like her and 818 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,040 Jessica both threw. Like I think Jessica threw 2029, 819 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,400 Chase threw like 2026 and that's just a comp that isn't built for 820 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,040 people to throw that far. So I think if that hand issue 821 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,200 wouldn't have popped up, I think we would have seen Chase throw 822 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,880 21 last year. Sarah Mitten is I, I think I 823 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,480 could see Sarah getting it, especially if it's if it's 824 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,600 something where it's like she doesn't want to be left out of 825 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,760 the party. Like she's I mean that her throw 826 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,160 at, I'm pretty sure it was the last round at the Diamond League 827 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,560 final in 2024 was absolutely huge. 828 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,240 And it was just like a little heel foul on the top of the tow 829 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,040 board. I think. 830 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,880 So Sarah's definitely like got the capacity to throw that far. 831 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,440 So yeah, I, I think this time next year, I think we'll see two 832 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:14,080 more women throwing 21 meters. Nice Preet, we got you back 833 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,200 Questions for our big throws expert. 834 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,560 I'm sorry, I missed a little bit of the, the, the conversation, 835 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,680 so you may have already answered these, but yeah, I mean, I, I 836 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,680 think the, the sliding, the, you know, obviously what, sorry, my 837 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,920 one question is how mad is Chase Jackson right now? 838 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,200 She's she's probably not not super happy. 839 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,200 I I mean, they're all very good friends. 840 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,200 All the women shot putters are good friends. 841 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,200 But Chase, like last year at USA is when I was talking to her in 842 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,280 the mix zone, she said about worlds, she was like, there's 843 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,160 going to be 6 women over 20. The only difference is I'll be 844 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:55,000 over 21. And like I when she threw 2095 845 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,840 at Ironwood, like every single meet she was in last year, the 846 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,200 conversation was just, is this the one Chase is going to throw 847 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,000 21? Is it going to be this one, this 848 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,120 one? And like she welcomed that 849 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,520 pressure because like, she was excited about pursuing that mark 850 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,440 too. And so I don't like, I don't 851 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,320 know how big of a deal she thinks it's going to be that 852 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:20,120 like, she's not the first one necessarily, because when she 853 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,360 throws 21, it's still going to be really significant either 854 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,880 way. But there probably is a little 855 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,040 bit of it that that stings a touch right now. 856 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:36,000 She's the John Landy of of the Sub Four Mile instead of being 857 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,320 the Roger Bannister. She's the Yomi Kajelcha of the 858 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:46,800 sub two hour marathon. And if you're, you know, and 859 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,920 with Jessica Shoulder, obviously she won Tokyo last year, but 860 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,800 given the kind of form that the Chase was in, obviously everyone 861 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,200 was expecting her to win at the World Championships. 862 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:02,720 And I guess does this kind of help back up the fact that 863 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,240 obviously Chase is Chase is amazing and she's perhaps more 864 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:10,240 consistent perhaps than Jess Shoulder, but Jess Shoulders 865 00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:14,280 obviously showing up on the right days and done, you know, 866 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,520 how how does that dynamic work? Right? 867 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,160 She's she's been able to pull off some some spectacular things 868 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,720 on on the Right Day. I I think the margins between 869 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:29,960 that top three are so thin and like it really does change from 870 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,720 meat to meat. Like Chase was on a really 871 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:38,280 strong tear last summer, but then like I said, that hand 872 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,800 injury kind of derailed things. Last couple of diamond leagues. 873 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,280 I'm pretty sure she still won all of them, I think. 874 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,240 I think her only outdoor losses last year were, Oh no, she lost 875 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:51,280 the Monaco Diamond League, which was right after pre. 876 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,600 But that one was like a crazy travel day for all of them. 877 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,120 I think it definitely like there weren't really people, I guess 878 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,440 speaking about Jessica's world title. 879 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,840 Like it was kind of like a a fluky performance. 880 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,840 I think there was some of that after the Olympic final last 881 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,480 year just 'cause you saw Chase go out and qualifying serum and 882 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,640 didn't make the top 8, I believe didn't get a full 6 throws in 883 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,000 the final and it was just a rainy conditions. 884 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,840 Like obviously massive kudos to you me see, for pulling that out 885 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,360 and going over 20 meters in that kind of circumstances. 886 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,960 But I think that was one where you left that competition. 887 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,440 A lot of people were like, that's really cool, but yummy 888 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,040 see is not the best shot putter in the world. 889 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,520 There definitely wasn't as much of that with Jessica because it 890 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,600 was all the top women. Everyone, regardless of 891 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,480 circumstances, had really strong days. 892 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,200 I mean, the whole podium was over 20 meters. 893 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,800 But her indoor season wasn't that special. 894 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:56,000 She threw like 2044 I think at a meet in the Netherlands, but 895 00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:58,480 didn't throw super well at World Indoors. 896 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,160 And I think she had said prior to this meet that was really 897 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,520 kind of a motivating factor for her coming into the start of the 898 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,840 outdoor season. 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You know where to find it. 931 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,960 All right, getting onto the track, we're going to cruise 932 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,320 through this because it's been a couple days and so people have 933 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,920 probably already like paid attention and processed the 934 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,320 results. So we'll go to in order kind of 935 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,560 of how things unfolded. Or I might just jump around. 936 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,720 I, I forget how I sorted through my notes here. 937 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:24,000 Women's 5K We had Faith could be a gone win in 1424 world lead 938 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,760 just barely because Lakina Amebaugh was Point O 7 back in a 939 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,160 personal best. Three more Ethiopians finished 940 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,400 within a second of Faith and it was a five woman Sprint to the 941 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,480 finish line. It was a funky race because it 942 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,560 really, really slowed down. They were I guess on pace or the 943 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,080 wave lights and all that kind of stuff were set for 14 O 5 944 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,120 through 2K. They were on pace and then once 945 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,800 the pacer dropped off at 3K, Faith let her go rather than 946 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,120 chasing her. And so then it really slowed 947 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,080 down from there. Faith never gave up the lead 948 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,760 once she got to the front, pushed hard to the finish line. 949 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:09,600 Last lap was 6342. The penalty mint lap before that 950 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,360 was 69 five. So everyone was kind of winding 951 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,000 up for a big kick, but Faith gets the job done. 952 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,080 Non Diamond League discipline. Just a solid opener for her. 953 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,560 So 1424 World lead pre takeaways from this one. 954 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,720 To be honest, not much. In my view that is the short 955 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,040 answer to that. And here you were thinking it 956 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,600 was going to be a world record attempt. 957 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,120 They were so way off. No, yeah, no, I mean, it was it 958 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,720 was kind of it was going to be 1 or the other, right? 959 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,960 It was either going to be nothing or or or something, 960 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,920 something, you know, all rock on time. 961 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,200 But I think here like, oh, I didn't even get to see this 962 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,480 race. I got zero. 963 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,040 I think. I think in the US you had some 964 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,720 way to watch it, but. I didn't see. 965 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,280 Any of it. Yeah, exactly. 966 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,160 So we I didn't get to see it at all. 967 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,920 So I can't tell you too much. And as I say, yeah, that the 968 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,320 only thing you can, you can look at the results and go faith. 969 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,960 Did what she needed to do to win, but but that's about all 970 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,200 that happened in this race. So she's clearly over there 971 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,960 collecting her bag and and maybe it's just a little test to see 972 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,560 because previously she's opened her season with one case. 973 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,280 So I think this is maybe a bit of an indication of how she's 974 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,760 kind of looking at where she's at and and what kind of focus 975 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,040 she's going to have going forward, which means that it 976 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,720 sounds like we'll probably see her in more 5000 and longer 977 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,160 races as well as I think, I don't think she's leaving 1500 978 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,720 by any stretch, but I think we are going to see her do a few 979 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,800 longer races now compared to previously. 980 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,640 It's also the absence of Beatrice Chabet, I think opens 981 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,280 up a spot if you wanted to try and pull off the double at the 982 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,480 World Ultimate Championships because she doesn't have a buy 983 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,080 necessarily, but she's crazy high up in the world ranking. 984 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,680 So maybe just getting fine-tuned for the 5K. 985 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,960 Only other interesting thing was I thought that Marta Alamayu 986 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,720 would be a little bit higher up. So she's the world cross 987 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,680 country, the world cross country U20 champion. 988 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,320 She ended up running 1432 for 7th place. 989 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,840 I know a lot of people don't necessarily believe that 990 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,280 Ethiopian ages and World Athletics and the AIU recently 991 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,920 cracked down on a bunch of like age cheating. 992 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,880 But if you are going by age on paper, then Alameu is running 993 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,320 1432 and she's two years younger than Jane Hennigan, who ran 994 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,160 what, 1448 earlier in the season. 995 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:41,040 So a bit more fanfare would be happening, I think had if she 996 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,360 was in the NCAA. But I thought that should be a 997 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,040 little bit higher up. But she's still super young and 998 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,120 getting some exposure to the Diamond League circuit. 999 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:56,560 But yeah, tons of Ethiopians already collecting points for 1000 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,640 the World Ultimate Championships and then also on top of that 1001 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,920 giving thanks to Faith to big on for dragging them to personal 1002 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,680 best. So that was the women's 5K. 1003 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:15,200 Next on my notes was Mark English winning the men's 801, 1004 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,880 forty 385. Really impressive final 100 1005 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,280 meters where he found a way to swim through five different 1006 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,520 athletes to take the win. Kettle Bogile Hangura from 1007 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,120 Botswana thought that he had the race won and celebrated early, 1008 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,720 literally I think a meter or two before the finish line Mark 1009 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,080 English took notice of the gap, slipped through and got the 1010 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,920 victory at the finish line. Not all that often that you see 1011 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,560 Ireland collect a Diamond League victory. 1012 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:51,320 So always cool to add another country to the list of of 1013 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,640 winners. But All in all, super smart 1014 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,960 racing. It's, you know, he is 33 years 1015 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,760 old and having this, you know, career resurgence under coach. 1016 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:04,960 Oh, who's he with? He's. 1017 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,320 Justin. Rinaldi that's right. 1018 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,280 And so I think was recently putting together a training 1019 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,720 block out in Flagstaff. And so things are going really 1020 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,960 well for him. I I was surprised to see the kit 1021 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,400 switch from last year being such a big breakout year to now he's 1022 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,000 an Under Armour athlete. And so, yeah, that was his 1023 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,920 debut. What a way to to come out. 1024 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,760 But yeah, this one is it was, it was a fun race in the sense 1025 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,080 because none of the heavy hitters were here quite yet and 1026 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,920 so you had more players in the mix. 1027 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,120 Yeah, and Peter Ball was obviously meant to be in this 1028 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,320 race also training partner, but he got a call that his wife was 1029 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,320 going to labour as he was about to head to the airport. 1030 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,920 So he changed his plans. We'll, we'll forgive him for, 1031 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:56,040 for scratching, but Ketubagile Hingora, someone like, like 1032 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,920 someone has to, there has to be some kind of forfeit, some kind 1033 01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,400 of penalty for celebrating before the finish line, easing 1034 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,640 up and losing a race. You've kind of got to like wear 1035 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,720 a dance cap at your next race. I don't know. 1036 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,040 They need to do something to make sure that athletes realise 1037 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:17,280 and remember that run through the line, you know, unless 1038 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,000 you're miles ahead, like and even if you're reasonably far 1039 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,440 ahead, you think you've got it, run through the damn line. 1040 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,160 And, and obviously we saw, we saw it in a couple of other 1041 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,280 races. Yeah, Paris Chimuta I think 1042 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,920 almost suffered the same exact fate in the women's steeplechase 1043 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,720 and almost got nipped by Faith Charotich at the finish line as 1044 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,080 well. And she had, I think she 1045 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:44,560 celebrated earlier than Hangura did and managed to to to salvage 1046 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,600 it. I will say it's it's one thing 1047 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,280 to do that with like this 800 field behind you. 1048 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,080 It's another thing to do that with like the world champion and 1049 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,920 one of the like what? How high up is faith on the all 1050 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,680 time list? Like four or five? 1051 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,280 Yeah, like and, and on top of that is an Olympic and and world 1052 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,400 championship medalist. Yeah. 1053 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:11,040 Yeah. Crazy who else celebrated early 1054 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,440 because there was more I think throughout this. 1055 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,760 Week there was there was another one as well. 1056 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,400 There was another one in this meet, but there were others as 1057 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,920 well around there. Kanye and. 1058 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,400 Solo Ajayi had. One of the famous. 1059 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,960 Things I've ever seen. OK, yeah, tell that story, Paul, 1060 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,600 because you were there and you saw it happened. 1061 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:33,640 Yeah, so at SEC's Kanye and Solo Ajayi, the, I believe, NCA 60M 1062 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,960 champion, one of the fastest men in the country so far this year 1063 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:43,080 in the outdoor 100. He was in the final prelim of 1064 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:48,960 the 100 FCC's and got out really well, as he should, and was kind 1065 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,280 of cruising down the straight and then shut it down about 10 1066 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,440 meters out from the line, maybe more. 1067 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:05,000 And his teammate passed him at the line, beat him by thousandth 1068 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,360 of a second. And there were I believe it was 1069 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,000 5 heats. And so it was heat winner and 1070 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,560 then four time qualifiers. And because he slowed down so 1071 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:22,240 much, he ran 10/21 and finished like a couple hundredths outside 1072 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:27,040 of finished a couple 100th outside of a time qualifier 1073 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,000 spot. And it, it wasn't that big of a 1074 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:35,520 deal at obviously it's a terrible look, but it's not that 1075 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,280 big of a deal at SEC's Cause like Auburn's team isn't super 1076 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,640 competitive at the conference level, just with the way they're 1077 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,280 structured. But like if he pulls something 1078 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,920 like that at nationals where they're like a legitimate title 1079 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,600 threat, that's I, I'm glad he learned his lesson at this meet. 1080 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,680 I'll leave it at that, but it was, and the fact that it was 1081 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,560 his teammate too that passed him and took that last spot into the 1082 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,480 final was just, it was somewhat poetic. 1083 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,920 I I just remembered who it was who celebrated early at the 1084 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,680 Diamond League. It was and we'll talk about this 1085 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:13,480 race, the, the men's 3K Muhammad Abdullahi was celebrating, I 1086 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:19,040 think early, but it was more out of joy, I think, because this 1087 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,400 was a big victory for him. So he won the men's 3K in 725 1088 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,320 big move 600 meters out. For the people who may not be as 1089 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,640 familiar with him, he's 27, German born in Somalia. 1090 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:39,720 He was he previously went by Mohammed Mohammed couple years 1091 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,720 back when at at one of the sound running meets when Jaka Bingo 1092 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,680 Britsen was racing. He he was right on his heels and 1093 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,480 so I think the name change has kind of thrown a couple people 1094 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,760 off, but he's been pretty good for a while. 1095 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:56,960 He only broke 13 for the 5K for the first time last year, didn't 1096 01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,800 make the 5K finals in Tokyo at the world championship. 1097 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:06,000 So this has been a pretty good jump for him so far this season. 1098 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,840 He got the victory at the ten couple weeks back where he beat 1099 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,600 Kai Robinson, someone who you know, has been up there at World 1100 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,200 Championships. So this is AI think right now 1101 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:24,080 he's having this sort of early season trajectory that I kind of 1102 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,120 put him in the same bucket as now. 1103 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,960 Isaac Camelli, right? Like I could see him having an 1104 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:36,800 Isaac Kameli like 2026 season and that so so far things have 1105 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,760 have been going really well. But the other story that comes 1106 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:44,960 out of this race is just the depth 14 guys in it broke 7:30. 1107 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,600 I think that was a that's double what the previous record was. 1108 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,680 Reynald Cheriot ran 726. Sounds like he's going to be 1109 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:57,560 running the 5K at the Commonwealth Games, which is 1110 01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,040 pretty impressive for a guy who just snagged A bronze medal at 1111 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,200 the World Championships in the 1500. 1112 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:10,600 Andreas Almgren was third, 726, Timothy Chariot 727. 1113 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,040 If you go all the way down to 14th place, everyone was under 1114 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,520 730. Last or yeah, 14th place was 1115 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,319 730. Last place was 736. 1116 01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:24,359 So yeah, I'm, I'm particularly excited by the season that Timmy 1117 01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:29,520 C is also putting together 727 at 30 years old and APB at this 1118 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,479 point, pretty, pretty good. Kind of washes away the 1119 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:40,319 disappointment of his duel with, oh, who was it, Emmanuel and Uni 1120 01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,920 in the 1500 in Nairobi just a little while ago. 1121 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,640 But those are my thoughts from from this one. 1122 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,960 Preet, would you? What'd you think? 1123 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:51,399 Yeah, I mean, yeah, as I say, as you said, Muhammad Abdullahi, 1124 01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:56,560 very impressive. I I and, and I think it, it kind 1125 01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:02,160 of leads to an Andreas Almgren as well with his, you know, he 1126 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,240 hasn't done speed work yet kind. Of he didn't taper for this one 1127 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,040 at all, I think it's kind of what he's publicly, I think said 1128 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,960 and. And this is a bit short for him, 1129 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,360 right? So, yeah, it's a bit short for 1130 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,320 him. He so I I to be fact, I was, I 1131 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,880 was surprised that he actually had a bit of speed at the end 1132 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,360 and I thought you would have been pushing from a bit further 1133 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,240 out. But we will see most of this 1134 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,360 field other than I think Reynold Chariot run it back in a 5K next 1135 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,720 week in Xiamen. So we can maybe see a little bit 1136 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,600 more there. But it does make that European 1137 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,880 10K this summer a little bit more intriguing as well. 1138 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,320 If Abdullah, he's in the mix alongside arm Gren and a couple 1139 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,320 of others. That definitely gets Labalu and 1140 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,440 Kimberly and others. It could be quite an interesting 1141 01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:50,560 10K come the summer. Yeah, who would be the Who's the 1142 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,480 5K favorite for Commonwealth Games right now? 1143 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,400 Commonwealth Games is a bit more of a question. 1144 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,200 George Mills could be in the mix. 1145 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,000 If he stays on. If he stays on his feet, yes, 1146 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,640 indeed. But yeah. 1147 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,600 And then obviously, yeah, you've got the Kenyans, Ugandans, 1148 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,160 depends who turns up, really. And that's, that's always the 1149 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,800 question, right? Like who's going to turn up? 1150 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,720 But yeah, you have some Kenyans and Ugandans. 1151 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,200 I don't know what Adrian Wiltschut's going to do. 1152 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,520 Maybe he's, I don't know whether he's coming back to the track 1153 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,240 for, for Commonwealth Games or sticking to the roads. 1154 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,240 Like, yeah, so there's there's a bunch of guys who could be in 1155 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,840 it, but we just, it's hard to know what the field's going to 1156 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,640 look. Like, all right, let's move on 1157 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,800 it to the women's 1500. Burka Hilam got the victory, 1158 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,520 355.56. It's early, but they're they're 1159 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:46,320 already running fast. She finally put together, I 1160 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:52,000 think a sensible race plan. Coach Eric Jenkins did good on 1161 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,880 this one. This one was fairly tactical and 1162 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:03,120 and controlled from from her. But for the most part, there's 1163 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,480 there's a couple different people to really analyze in 1164 01:12:05,480 --> 01:12:08,360 this. So one it's Birkehilam running a 1165 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:14,000 tactically savvy race. That's a win for no Siga Deguma 1166 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,320 running 355 in just her second ever 1500. 1167 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,480 It was such an impressive final 200 meters from her, which had 1168 01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:26,960 me start to think it's like she's she could be a contender 1169 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:31,680 for a 1500 medal if she commits to this event because you know 1170 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:36,800 the 800 you she was not in the medals last year. 1171 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,200 You look at that event and you see how good Keely Hodgkinson 1172 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,320 is. Maybe this is part of the reason 1173 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,200 why she's decided to give this a shot and move up. 1174 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,680 But yeah, I mean, I I thought that was a really impressive 1175 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,400 run. I guess let's start by talking 1176 01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,040 about Jess Hall's tactics a little bit, because she's kind 1177 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,680 of in a no win situation here. Preet, right? 1178 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:08,000 Like when it's a Faith Capiagon race, she's got faith ahead of 1179 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:13,000 her to try and, you know, make it fast and all she has to do is 1180 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,960 slot in and hold on. And she's really good at that. 1181 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,400 And that has rewarded her many times with medals. 1182 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,840 But then a race like this where there is no faith and your best 1183 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,840 shot is for the race to be fast, she finds herself up towards the 1184 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,080 front. But now this gap of, you know, 1185 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:33,000 other women, including, yes, The Ethiopians, but also some of the 1186 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,680 Australian athletes can still can close really well. 1187 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,520 And so if she ties up in the final 150 meters, like we saw 1188 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:47,560 here in China, she ends up, you know, slipping all the way back. 1189 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:53,480 And so it's it's sort of like if you're just your best race is 1190 01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:56,760 dependent on if someone like Faith is in it, who can, you 1191 01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,320 know, make it fast without you taking the brunt of leading the 1192 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,040 whole entire way. Yeah, I agree. 1193 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,480 I mean that this was the problem, right? 1194 01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:08,920 She and I think this is, this is maybe slightly issue that she 1195 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:14,840 had to, she, she probably felt like she had to take the lead 1196 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:20,200 and partly because her main or probably her main goal here was 1197 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,120 to beat all the other Australians in this race. 1198 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,000 Given there were five Australians in this race. 1199 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,480 And you know that there's obviously been what happened at 1200 01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:29,200 the Australian trials where she fell. 1201 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,560 So she wasn't able to win that race or, or have a shot at 1202 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,560 winning that race. I think that was what she wanted 1203 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,880 to do. And maybe she she probably knew 1204 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:44,080 that it maybe would lead to her getting out kicked by someone at 1205 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,600 the end, whether that was Dorcasy Roy or Berkeley Highland 1206 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,080 with the most likely candidates as the race kind of was 1207 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,800 unfolding. But I think that was her 1208 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,880 strategy in this one. And maybe that led to her 1209 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,640 undoing here because, yeah, as you say, she tied up with 150 to 1210 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,320 go, fell back and yeah, very impressive. 1211 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:10,320 Close by Abby Caldwell, 3. 2nd 3 Second PB. 1212 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,720 Exactly. I mean, and she she had a 28 1213 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,920 seven last 200. She had the fastest last 200 of 1214 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,240 anybody. So, so really impressive clothes 1215 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,560 from her. Not not obviously a 22nd 26 1216 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:28,000 second Beatrice Chabet style clothes, but but still 28 seven. 1217 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,960 It's pretty rapid in a race that's this quick. 1218 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,400 Is is really, really, really good work. 1219 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,320 And Dorcas Eloy, you know, again, I think similarly, she 1220 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,120 went with the pace because she's now a silver medalist. 1221 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,680 She probably felt like that's where I should be in these races 1222 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,240 and, and again, to be fair still. 1223 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,280 Solid. Rose yeah, but she, she just 1224 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,840 faded with about 50 to go, right. 1225 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,640 She she kind of looked like she literally almost stopped and 1226 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,720 started walking with about 50 to go and and really went 1227 01:15:58,720 --> 01:15:59,520 backwards. That bad? 1228 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,680 For you but but I get your point. 1229 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,840 It was, it was pretty dramatic. It was pretty dramatic because 1230 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,880 she was close. She was right up with Highland 1231 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,680 with 50 to go. So she she. 1232 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,440 Then I just think Da Guma blasting past so many people 1233 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:13,680 made that made made everyone else look slow. 1234 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,640 Yeah, maybe. But yeah, she so, yeah, it was. 1235 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,520 But yeah, Daguma, as you say, very impressive and yeah, very 1236 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,880 interesting to see what she now does going forward. 1237 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,440 But if she's kind of developed this kind of strength, that is, 1238 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,080 that's obviously an ominous sign if she does come back, you know, 1239 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,280 coming back to the 800 as well. The Ethiopian Georgia Bell is 1240 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,920 what they're calling her, with a dual threat in both events. 1241 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,680 But yeah, we will see. And, and again, I mean, I'm 1242 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,920 trying to do this jam and preview as we go through this 1243 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,280 because it's kind of so easy to do that and it saves us doing it 1244 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,320 separately. They're going to run it back 1245 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,160 next week in Jam and other than Siggy Deguma so. 1246 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,920 It'd be. Interesting to see other than 1247 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,840 Siggy Deguma, they're all coming back. 1248 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,040 And yeah, I mean, I think I think that Australian dynamics 1249 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,920 really interesting because I think it makes the Commonwealth 1250 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:12,120 Games selection really fascinating now because if Abby 1251 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:16,800 Caldwell has beaten all of them and run three 55356, who do you 1252 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,160 put on that team now? Because you have to put just all 1253 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,440 on that team shortly. They need to live stream the 1254 01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:26,080 Australian Athletics meeting where they decide this. 1255 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,560 Or you can, you can do it reality TV show version where 1256 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,280 you come out with roses and just hand them to the people who make 1257 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,960 the team. But no, yeah, to your point, 1258 01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,880 like this, this might end up getting pretty political. 1259 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,400 We'll see. Yeah. 1260 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,720 Overall, the depth of this one was another, you know, big 1261 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,840 story, 11 women under 4 minutes, Gracie Morris. 1262 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:52,480 So close to also joining the club is the record 12 from when 1263 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:58,280 Faith K Biegon ran the world record at the 2024 Paris Diamond 1264 01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,520 League. I think that that might be it 1265 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,240 'cause you dragged so many people in that field to PBS. 1266 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:09,840 But yeah, I mean, this one had so many people under even 1267 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,840 including who's it? Gabia Galvedite from the former 1268 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,600 Oklahoma State 800 meter specialist who's now training 1269 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,520 with like Swoosh TC out in Eugene. 1270 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,040 She was like the the last person under 4. 1271 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,640 So it's early, but people are running fast. 1272 01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:30,800 Yeah, I mean, Aussie's five women under 359 is nuts. 1273 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,520 Absolutely nuts in one race. Bonkers. 1274 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:40,240 This is their US 2024 US Olympic Trials moment where they all 1275 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,800 decided to just go for it. And hammer times are probably 1276 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:49,480 actually fairly fairly similar. All right, as we kind of just 1277 01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:53,720 brush over the rest of the events that took place. 1278 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,720 Nikisha Price won the women's 400 after Leah Butler went out a 1279 01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,360 little bit too hard. Mondo Duplantis got a super easy 1280 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,600 win in the pole vault. No one else, I think cleared 5, 1281 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,160 58. Jamal Britt pocketed the 110 1282 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,160 hurdles victory over Cordell Tinch, the world champion. 1283 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,240 He had a really fun one in the 300 hurdles. 1284 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:20,560 Not a world record, but still a solid duel between Allison dos 1285 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,560 Santos and Carsten Walholm in the 300 hurdles. 1286 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,440 Dos Santos with the victory, and they're running it back over the 1287 01:19:26,440 --> 01:19:30,800 400 hurdles in this next one. I believe that's the case. 1288 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,520 Let me just double check. But yes, they are indeed doing 1289 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,400 that. The big race that capped off 1290 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:41,560 everything was the women's 100 hurdles Messiah Russell on an 1291 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,760 absolute heater to start the season. 1292 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,520 I think I just, there's someone on the Spotify comments I think 1293 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,160 said that you'll have three good performances and Chris will say 1294 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,360 that you're on a heater. And I was like, oh, OK, I guess. 1295 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,720 Like that was one for Messiah Russell. 1296 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,320 And I've deemed that she's on a heater well. 1297 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:05,320 She she went 1240 twice in Kentucky at like 2 weeks ago I 1298 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,600 think. OK, so there it is. 1299 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,160 She. I think she. 1300 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,200 Has heard that that was the. Worst times in the world? 1301 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,320 She's on a heater. There you go. 1302 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,680 What other races took place? The 200 right was one the. 200 1303 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,320 is probably the most interesting one that that's worth a little. 1304 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:21,880 Go for it. Unpack it for us pre. 1305 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:28,800 I mean like Sharika Jackson 22 O 7 and early in the season looked 1306 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,000 amazing on that bend absolutely amazing on that bend. 1307 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:36,120 You know well in the lead and and and just held it together. 1308 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:42,200 Shawnee Miller Weibo Second 2226 beating the likes of a Navy 1309 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:47,280 battle Shikari Amy Hunt Just that that kind of really shows 1310 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,760 you that she is kind of back and in a decent time and look like 1311 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,080 she had more in the tank. So, you know, I I I she didn't 1312 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,920 go out as as hard. So she's probably got a bit of 1313 01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,080 room to push it. So that that looks really 1314 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,360 interesting and I'm kind of quite excited to see see what 1315 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:04,560 she does. I mean, we were quite excited 1316 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,680 when she ran whatever was 22 for a couple of weeks ago. 1317 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,840 And and I think that that just backs it up. 1318 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,280 You skip over. Shakur Richardson, you you gave 1319 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,200 Amy Hunt a shout out and Amy Hunt was fifth. 1320 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,040 Shakuri was fourth, No. No, no, I meant I mentioned 1321 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,160 that. Well, I mentioned that Shauna 1322 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,920 beat Shakuri, but no, I was just coming to her. 1323 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:22,880 I'm. Just coming to Shauna beat a 1324 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,320 Navier and Amy Hunt. You didn't say Shakuri. 1325 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,000 I said Shakuri as well. I'm sure I did. 1326 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:34,160 But anyway, an Amy battle doing what she does always does in 1327 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,080 early season diamond leagues, a solid performance. 1328 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,440 And Shakira, yeah, 22 four. I mean, wasn't bad. 1329 01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:41,680 I don't I don't think it was bad. 1330 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,720 But yeah, yeah. And if Sharika is rounding into 1331 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,720 form, then then you know, you're not expecting necessarily to 1332 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:54,040 beat her. But yeah, I I'm quite excited 1333 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:59,960 for for the 200 meters this year just because I think this this 1334 01:21:59,960 --> 01:22:01,720 just all makes it interesting. I mean, if they all turn up to 1335 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,560 Commonwealth Games then that will be that'll be quite 1336 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,520 interesting. Well, any of you Battle and 1337 01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:09,160 Kerry can't come to Commonwealth Games. 1338 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,240 Not yet. No, but I mean, if Sharika and 1339 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,480 Shawnee versus Amy and Dina that that could. 1340 01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:17,080 And and Julian, Alfred, that could be a fascinating 1341 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,160 Commonwealth Games matchup. And Elaine, of course. 1342 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,360 So wait, did you say that this was Sharika's fastest opener 1343 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:30,240 right since 2023, right? I hadn't checked that, but that 1344 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,200 doesn't that wouldn't surprise me because she was definitely 1345 01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:36,920 slower last year and. 2023 I think she opened in like she 1346 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,400 opened her 200 in like June and ran like 21 nine or something. 1347 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,760 2225 is what she opened up with there. 1348 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:48,080 In 2023. Oh yeah, that was that was in 1349 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,880 Kingston and then in Ribachi ran 2198. 1350 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,360 And then, of course, she ended that season with a well, didn't 1351 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,680 end the season, but she ran the 2141 at the World Championships 1352 01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,960 in Budapest. Yeah. 1353 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,800 I mean, she's got to be all in on the 200, right? 1354 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,560 You look at how many women in Jamaica right now are running 1355 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,000 really, really well in the 100. It's like it's really hard for 1356 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,720 Sharika to be successful, I think enough in the 100 to make 1357 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,840 the team and then at the same time give it her real best in 1358 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,440 the 200. So if she's all in on just the 1359 01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:26,240 two, I think that could be pretty exciting. 1360 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:31,440 Because really has it been since 2023 that we haven't actually 1361 01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:33,880 even in that season she did, she did the double, but now there's 1362 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,240 just more younger Jamaicans coming up. 1363 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,560 We, we, we're kind of concerned at some point last year about 1364 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,280 the depth behind, you know, the retiring of Shailene Anne Fraser 1365 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,560 Prize. But the Clayton twins are 1366 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,240 running really well even what was that, SEC championships. 1367 01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,200 Gabby Matthews is running really well as well. 1368 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,480 Gabby Matthews, the former 400 hurdler. 1369 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,720 Jamaica might have the most. Well, she's she's not Jamaican 1370 01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,600 though. She's from a different Caribbean 1371 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,040 island. Gabby Matthews is Jamaican. 1372 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,200 She's Jamaican, is she? Yes. 1373 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:09,480 Very Jamaican right now, I think, yeah, Jamaica's got the 1374 01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:14,400 most women, I think under 11 seconds, 99 women under 11. 1375 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,920 Yeah. Wow, that's that's impressive. 1376 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,000 So, yeah, what are they running it back? 1377 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,480 Is it, is this, is it a lot of this field running another 200 1378 01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:26,000 in China this weekend or is it 100? 1379 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,560 Yes, I think they are running another 200. 1380 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,000 Where? Where are we? 1381 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,800 Yep. Yeah, a Navy battle. 1382 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,040 Amy Humphrey Jackson, Tory Lewis, Mackenzie Longchunny 1383 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,160 Luibo. Yeah. 1384 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,400 Shakari Richardson, Jennifer Nini say yes, all of them. 1385 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,440 Look at this. This is like a preview of what 1386 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,240 Athos could be. Athos China is essentially these 1387 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,480 early season meets when so many of the fields just kind of 1388 01:24:47,480 --> 01:24:49,880 overlap. Good practice. 1389 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,360 Let's next week let's score it in the Athos system and see who 1390 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:59,440 would have won the China meets. There you have it. 1391 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:05,520 Before we yeah, before we finish up on the 200, just like for 1392 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,840 talking about Shakari running 2242, I mean like last year we 1393 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,480 saw her kind of dealing with injuries earlier in the season. 1394 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,600 Didn't run a 200 until USA is 20/24. 1395 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:21,640 She was struggling to break 23 at these meets and that ended up 1396 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,600 running 21/9 and made the Olympic team by the middle of 1397 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,920 the summer. So I think like finishing 4th or 1398 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,240 5th in this field and can kind of get lost in the results, 1399 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,400 especially since it's not like a crazy fast time. 1400 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,000 But I think given what we've seen out of Shakiri 1401 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:42,960 historically, I think this is a pretty solid outdoor opener for 1402 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,680 her. There you go, Paul Hoff Mahoney 1403 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,560 getting the clip for the Shakiri hive to go crazy over. 1404 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,920 I'm here for it. I think I needed a lot of people 1405 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,040 would just see forth and be like, ah, darn, we got our hopes 1406 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,440 up way too high after the grass race in Australia. 1407 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,200 But now hearing that, I feel better about it. 1408 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:09,040 So yeah, I guess if we go back to 2023, which is what we just 1409 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,520 did for Sharika, so holding her to the kind of the same standard 1410 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,120 she, Kerry opened up that year at altitude in Botswana and ran 1411 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,360 2254. What did she just ran this past 1412 01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,600 weekend? 2242. 1413 01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,320 So already better than she did that that season and then at the 1414 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,880 world championship, she ended up getting bronze in that 2192. 1415 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:34,400 So yeah, by the same logic, it's a good sign of things to come 1416 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,760 from, you know, 2/3 of the podium from the Budapest World 1417 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,920 Championships just three, three years later. 1418 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:47,560 But I guess like, is that where, how many Americans could end up 1419 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:54,360 in the World Ultimate 200 field? Because there's a I mean, I. 1420 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,520 Think people? Yeah, exactly. 1421 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,880 There's the five women who are in this field, obviously have 1422 01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,840 started collecting ranking points and stuff. 1423 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,800 Gabby's got a spot already. Yeah, obviously Gabby's got a 1424 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,160 spot and Melissa got a spot, so there could be 7-7 or eight 1425 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:10,960 America. My gosh. 1426 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:17,640 In, in, in that field, wow. Out of the out of the 16, but I 1427 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,440 mean the 200 meters, I think if you think about it, the 200 1428 01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:24,160 meters, the broader depth isn't, the depth isn't as broad. 1429 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:29,480 And so that I, I don't think that is all that surprising 1430 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,720 because, yeah, you'll have a couple of Brits, two or three 1431 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,880 Brits, and you'll have Julian Alfred if she wants to do it. 1432 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,640 And yeah. And. 1433 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,960 Shawnee and and then yeah, maybe, maybe two or three 1434 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,320 Jamaicans, depending on who's who's up for it. 1435 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,160 And when? From the Yeah, yeah, the British 1436 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:49,280 Virgin Islands. There you go. 1437 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,880 Yeah. Wait, so British Virgin Islands? 1438 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,000 Dumb question in the Commonwealth? 1439 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,240 Yes, OK, very much, very much, very much in the Commonwealth. 1440 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,360 All right, so she might win. No, actually maybe that's where 1441 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:09,280 the first time we'll see Julian Alfred versus Deja Hodge versus 1442 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,360 Shrika Jackson potentially at Commonwealth Games. 1443 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,160 I, I don't think we will get that. 1444 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,000 I'm not sure that everyone is going to double, frankly. 1445 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,440 I think people will do one event. 1446 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,120 I, I, I don't know, I mean, Elaine, Elaine has Elaine 1447 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,680 Thompson. Hera has said she is targeting 1448 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,000 Commonwealth Games and wants to defend her double from 2022. 1449 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,760 So is. She the reigning champ. 1450 01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:35,320 She's the reigning double champion from the Commonwealth 1451 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,720 Games in 2022. Interesting. 1452 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:43,000 I would have been I, I, I, I, I know I'm not the only like 1453 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,360 there's listeners out there who also would have been surprised 1454 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,640 if the British Virgin Islands were not in the Commonwealth, 1455 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:52,680 But I figured it was too obvious, but wanted to double 1456 01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,040 check because I, I started, you know, dreaming about that, that, 1457 01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:00,280 that, that potential match up. But all right, Paul, this is 1458 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,280 your moment of shine. What was the biggest thing that 1459 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,640 stood out to you from the conference championships? 1460 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,320 You know, everywhere across America we had Oregon had the 1461 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,480 historic double Triple Crown. Shout out to Bobo. 1462 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:20,280 And. That he brings to that team when 1463 01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:24,280 dated chaos at those Big 10 championships SEC. 1464 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:29,920 You had Jelani Watkins right? 995 in 1987, some good depth 1465 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:33,480 just across the distance races at the SEC Championships. 1466 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:38,600 What we had, Texas Tech sweeping the Big 12 championships again 1467 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,720 as a team. ACC brought some drama and some 1468 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,360 surprises. I think when it came to some 1469 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,600 really good races. Actually, I would say Juliet 1470 01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,920 Whitaker over Sadie Englehart in the 1500 by point O3 seconds. 1471 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:55,320 If you haven't watched that race video, really cool finish. 1472 01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:00,640 And then Nick Plant over Gary Martin and Rocky Hansen in the 1473 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:05,320 men's 1500. So yeah, I mean, those were just 1474 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,960 kind of surface level, the conference championship weekend 1475 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:10,560 at large. But what was the biggest 1476 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:16,680 performance in your opinion? I think there's I'll go SEC is 1477 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,080 because it's the best conference, so got to got to 1478 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,000 stay on that. The four hundreds and SEC's were 1479 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,800 won in 43 seconds and 48 seconds for the men and the women. 1480 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:31,760 Deja Na Oakley out of Georgia ran 4892, the second collegiate 1481 01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:35,320 woman ever under 49 seconds. Both of those women, her and 1482 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:39,360 Nakisha Price are Jamaican. Huge run for her. 1483 01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,320 And then in the men's 400, Samuel Legazzi got the best of a 1484 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:49,200 really incredible field running 4395, becoming the first 1485 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:54,160 Nigerian man under 44 seconds and I think the 8th man in 1486 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,880 collegiate history to do so. And kind of a sneaky underrated 1487 01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:07,120 result from that men's 400 was I'm blanking on Jordan Pierce, I 1488 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,560 think might be his name. The Arkansas guy that finished 1489 01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:14,920 in second apparently, according to one of the big splits guys on 1490 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,400 Twitter, said he might have had like the second or third 1491 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:22,760 fastest, like final hundred for a 400 like ever. 1492 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,560 And he ran like 4412, which was a half second PB. 1493 01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:31,560 So he ran pretty crazy. But Jordan Pierre. 1494 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:37,720 Pierre OK, that's what it is. And then American, we also saw 1495 01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,960 Doris Lemingle returned to the track for the first time since 1496 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:46,000 the NCAA Indoor Championships. Very easy win in the steeple. 1497 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:53,000 I think she ran like 9. 9/18. 918 completely solo and then 1498 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,600 doubled back the next night for the 5K. 1499 01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:00,280 Looked very easy running away from her teammate Karen Kipliga 1500 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:05,040 who dominated the 10K two nights earlier and one in like 1535 or 1501 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,400 something like that. And it's good to see Doris back 1502 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:13,520 on the track after she scratched the 3K indoor nationals and then 1503 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,560 hadn't raced at all this outdoor season. 1504 01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,760 We're probably, she's probably just going to stick to the 1505 01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:24,400 steeple because the steeple has a prelim and then at nationals 1506 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:28,200 the steeple would be like 2 hours before the 5K final. 1507 01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:32,160 So we probably aren't seeing any more Doris versus Jane 1508 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,760 Heddingren. If she if she wants to win 1509 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,840 another Bowerman, she should go for. 1510 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,840 It because she only like she's only going to win one title if 1511 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,680 she has the steeplechase so she needs it because they don't 1512 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:51,080 count cross. So yeah, if I doubt she'd double 1513 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:56,960 or focus solely on the 5K, but regardless of what, like if she 1514 01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,600 runs the steeple, Angelina Napoleon got beat at ACCS. 1515 01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,800 So like, I don't think there's much in the way of competition 1516 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:09,680 for the 11th or 12th fastest woman in world in world history. 1517 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:14,480 But regardless, I it, it was exciting to see her on the start 1518 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:16,480 list. And then I was like, OK, she 1519 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,560 might run the steeple. Is she actually going to run the 1520 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:19,600 5K? And then she did. 1521 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,840 She has braids now too. So I didn't recognize it was her 1522 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,000 at 1st. And I was like, oh man, Doris 1523 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,520 isn't actually racing. And I'm like, wait, there she 1524 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,880 is. But yeah, Doris is back. 1525 01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,720 And the four hundreds went crazy at SE CS. 1526 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:37,200 I think those were two of the really significant ones. 1527 01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,880 Preet, you wanted to make a point about just sort of these 1528 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,520 Sprint performances that took place this past weekend and how, 1529 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:49,240 Yeah, I mean, the NCA right now is really setting the tone for 1530 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,240 what we could see the rest of the season. 1531 01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,560 Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think like we had this 1532 01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:59,280 in 2024 and maybe it was it's been a little bit less in 2025, 1533 01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:02,400 in 2025 and and in indoors this year. 1534 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:07,320 But I think like, you know, the 48 seconds in the 400 meters is 1535 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,320 insane. We know she's the 16th woman in 1536 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,000 history to do that. Did I, Oakley. 1537 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,000 So she's 16th all time. The video was impressive. 1538 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:20,600 So shocked at the finish line. And you know, and we, and we've, 1539 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,800 you know, it's good to see Karen Brown back to her best and, and, 1540 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,240 and obviously Nikisha Price, who was kind of setting the tone in 1541 01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:32,080 2024, also kind of getting back to her best after kind of a 1542 01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,280 slightly down year in, in 2025 as well. 1543 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:38,880 So you know, that Arkansas Sprint factory is, is, is is 1544 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,840 back. And then you know, you, you've 1545 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,880 got on the men's side the 43 seconds again, really, really 1546 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,400 good to see. And then you watch Kobe Tharp 1547 01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,880 obviously doing his thing and thirteen O 5 world lead in the 1548 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,160 101 ten hurdles. Dude needs good land in Eugene 1549 01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,560 and and poor Grant always gonna lose that record and she. 1550 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,040 And she record is God. So yeah. 1551 01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,080 And obviously a danger. Hodge doing a thing as well with 1552 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:10,760 the yeah, with that with her 21. What was it, 21? 1553 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,240 92 I believe. Yeah. 1554 01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,560 And then the four by four, again, a really, really crazy 1555 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,000 performance in the Arkansas women. 1556 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,480 I think that second in collegiate history with A320. 1557 01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:25,400 So yeah, two second to their own mark from 2024. 1558 01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:31,160 So yeah, it's back. And I think it's always 1559 01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:35,280 interesting for us to see like going then into the meat of the 1560 01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:38,080 summer season, the professional kind of how that's kind of 1561 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:42,320 stacks up against the professionals and how if some of 1562 01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,200 these athletes can then translate that to to the 1563 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,720 professional ranks. So it's good to kind of see that 1564 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,680 back and have that storyline back, which we didn't, I didn't 1565 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,120 think we had as much of in the in the sprints last year. 1566 01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,680 What do you think Allison Felix thought about the SEC 400 final 1567 01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:01,320 results? Because if you're watching this, 1568 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:07,280 right, like you're probably you just watched 50.44 by Jamisia 1569 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:11,520 Ford get 4th place. Now you got to beat that in two 1570 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,920 years. She's got 2 two more years to 1571 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,680 develop. You're lucky Dejano Oakley is 1572 01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:21,040 running for Jamaica. But I'm I'm I'm processing these 1573 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,600 results and after hearing you speak, I'm like, would Allison 1574 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,800 Felix have made the SEC final this year? 1575 01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:33,560 Probably not. So again, pre like that when we 1576 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:37,720 were discussing just sort of ceremoniously putting her on the 1577 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:42,200 US team, like, I don't know, look at look at this conference 1578 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,520 championship and just the weekend in general. 1579 01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:48,320 Like there's so much talent that is going to be there in 2 years. 1580 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:54,520 And also some commenter on Spotify made a great point that 1581 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:59,520 it would be the equivalent of what we had at the 2024 USA 1582 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,920 women's basketball team of Diana Taurasi taking a roster spot 1583 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:09,880 over was it Caitlin Clark? And just having just sort of 1584 01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,280 like that veteran get the one last shining moment. 1585 01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,320 I think it will. Team USA still ended up getting 1586 01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,880 the the team victory. But that's different when it's, 1587 01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:24,800 you know, really the USA women's basketball just so, so good. 1588 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:30,920 But yeah, I mean this, this meet was bad news for Alison Felix's 1589 01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:36,200 Olympic hopes. I, I always think that there is 1590 01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,280 an element of experience. So I, I think if I wasn't 1591 01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,040 feelers can get back to a level of fitness. 1592 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,840 There is just an element of experience of peaking for the 1593 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,560 trials. We've seen so many athletes kind 1594 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,280 of come through the NCAA and look really good in the NCAA and 1595 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,280 go into professional ranks and it isn't quite the same. 1596 01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,480 And I, I don't entirely know what the reason for that is. 1597 01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:59,160 Obviously there's some athletes that are going to be really 1598 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:03,520 successful, but there are others who struggled to replicate their 1599 01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,960 NCAA performances or to or to progress from there. 1600 01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,760 So it's always a bit a bit of a mix. 1601 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,880 And yeah, I think yes, you can see there's loads of good 1602 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:20,440 performances, but I think I'm not sure that that necessarily 1603 01:38:20,440 --> 01:38:23,160 means that everyone's going to be running 49 seconds in the 1604 01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:26,720 Olympic Trials final in in in 2028. 1605 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:31,920 I think it will still be a little bit of a little bit of 1606 01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,800 there will be some athletes who will perform on the day and 1607 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,960 others that that won't. I don't, I, I guess I don't keep 1608 01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:41,080 track necessarily of just how many sub 50s or sub 50 ones 1609 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,720 would be usual for this time of year. 1610 01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:50,400 But I'm looking at, I'm counting 123456788 in the top world 1611 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:55,280 twenty Americans right now. And that's not even before some 1612 01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,840 of the best 400 runners have opened up this year. 1613 01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:04,360 I mean, it would be a tremendously great feel good 1614 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,200 story if if she can pull this off. 1615 01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:10,000 But I'm just just looking at results right now in mid-May of 1616 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:15,120 2026. Like it the event has just 1617 01:39:15,480 --> 01:39:19,080 levelled up while she's been gone, so and she won't be in 1618 01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,480 action for a whole another year. So yeah, we'll see. 1619 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,160 But yeah, it was just another thought as I was like, man, I 1620 01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,000 was like these this is going to be the people at the trials in 1621 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,600 two years. So we'll see. 1622 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:32,880 All right. I think that does it for this 1623 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,400 week. In track and field we've got. 1624 01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,160 We we missed, we missed a couple of things, we missed a couple of 1625 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:38,560 things. So. 1626 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,880 What do we miss? We don't have to unpack every 1627 01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:42,360 single thing. We don't have to unpack 1628 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,960 everything, but obviously, Noah Lyles. 1629 01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:50,840 Oh yeah, 995. Jordan Anthony won a 200-2005 1630 01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:59,320 and then Rye Benjamin won a 400 but he is not going over and and 1631 01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,320 beat Mazala, Sam Conger and Vernon Norwood. 1632 01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,480 Vernon is going over to the Diamond League to run the 400 1633 01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:06,240 against Cabinet shipping and Dory right? 1634 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,680 Benjamin's going home. Don't know what you think about 1635 01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,720 that, but. I saw I saw him catching some 1636 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:15,520 flag for that and. I think he has to get paid more 1637 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,240 which is why he's getting paid at pre yes to have that match up 1638 01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,840 which is probably. Or maybe not actually, because 1639 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,960 you're a Nike athlete, you have to make the appearance so you 1640 01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,120 don't get. Paid. 1641 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:25,360 You don't get paid. I don't know. 1642 01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,400 But yeah, I think that is the that is probably the issue that 1643 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,640 he's not getting paid enough to to face off against Kevin 1644 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:32,680 Shippy. But, but obviously I think it's 1645 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,320 a bit of a shame. Don't show your cards before you 1646 01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:39,360 stun him in September. December exactly. 1647 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,960 So so that was that was Japan I think. 1648 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,000 And then the other thing obviously is Track Fest this 1649 01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:51,360 weekend coming up, which has got some interesting fields, some 1650 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:52,800 really interesting fields in fact. 1651 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:57,600 We've got Josh Current 800, Donovan Brazier also in that 1652 01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:02,640 race, the return of Parker Valby in the 5K, the return of Emma 1653 01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:07,640 Coburn in the steeplechase. Solid men's Factory field. 1654 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,040 What's that? Cooper in a 15. 1655 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,160 Oh yeah, Cooper Lockner House in the 1500s. 1656 01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:15,240 So it'll be a solid meet. We'll have coverage on our 1657 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,720 Instagram channels from that meet. 1658 01:41:19,480 --> 01:41:21,800 But yeah, that's. Cooper luck can house no longer 1659 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:27,120 in listed in that 50 in the field no Cooper Cothra is and 1660 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,520 Cooper's here so there were two There were two Coopers in that 1661 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:30,960 race, but no Cooper luck canal the. 1662 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,600 Meet said. We got Cooper, we got Cooper at 1663 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:39,320 home. But yeah, Nico Young, Parker 1664 01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,720 Wolf and Graham Blanks all in that 1500. 1665 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,280 So yeah, no, I mean, that men's 8 is probably the most 1666 01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,960 fascinating race because along with Donovan Brazier, Hobbs 1667 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,600 Kessler, Jake Whiteman, Josh Kerr, Bryce Harper, Isaiah 1668 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:57,360 Harris, Brandon Miller, so literally, you know, almost the 1669 01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,800 US final, plus throwing in Jake Wyman, Josh Kerr as well. 1670 01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:07,600 So that's a pretty good race. Yeah, yeah, No, definitely. 1671 01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:11,280 And then I think in the in the 400, we're also getting Britton 1672 01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,720 Wilson, Alexis Holmes, who are kind of coming back. 1673 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:18,320 So yeah, lot lots of and Michael Norman running an open 4, which 1674 01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,560 is we haven't seen in a while. No, we saw it. 1675 01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:22,480 What was it, Paul? Where did you see him? 1676 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,800 He he ran a 4 by 4. Tom Jones. 1677 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,080 Yeah, he ran a 4 by 4. So yeah, it's an open, his first 1678 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:29,880 open four in a couple of years, so. 1679 01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,800 Fun meet, be interesting. You'll have to stay up and cough 1680 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,360 up some subscription dollars to I think watch it on on Flow 1681 01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,920 track. Same night, same night, you've 1682 01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:44,360 got the USATF Throws Festival in Tucson. 1683 01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,760 Do I have to cough up money to watch that one too? 1684 01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:50,360 USATF yeah, it's, it's a joint MO one. 1685 01:42:51,480 --> 01:42:52,480 OK. It's a joint. 1686 01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:57,480 It's on joint MO. And then what else is there this 1687 01:42:57,480 --> 01:42:59,280 weekend? There's well, right now we got 1688 01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:01,320 the Oceana Athletics Championships taking place. 1689 01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:05,080 So if you're really itching for some track, that's happening. 1690 01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:11,680 Aiden Murphy backed up his 4x4 performance around 4444, so Ozzy 1691 01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:13,280 backed up his 4x4 performance there. 1692 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:17,280 So just one for one for our friend Erin Brown and others 1693 01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:22,680 too, because people obviously suspect, you know, people are 1694 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,720 obviously thinking, oh, is he the real deal? 1695 01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,080 And he's obviously pretty good, so. 1696 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:32,840 And I think that that's it. So all right, that does it for 1697 01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,160 another episode. I mean, we could have unpacked 1698 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:36,640 so much more that took place in Tokyo. 1699 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:41,000 But you know, at this point the results are days old and so 1700 01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:42,600 don't want this. Why I can't. 1701 01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:43,800 I've got another meeting after this. 1702 01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:48,000 But we will see you guys next week. 1703 01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:51,120 Another episode of this week in track and field on behalf of 1704 01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,040 Paul Hoff Mahoney, Preet Majithia, I've been Chris 1705 01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,200 Chavez. We will see you guys next week. 1706 01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,840 All right, that's a wrap on today's episode. 1707 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,800 Thanks for listening, for the time, the curiosity, and for 1708 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,560 making this show part of your routine or your run. 1709 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,880 A big thanks to our producer Jasmine Fair and to everyone 1710 01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,920 behind the scenes who helps make the Sidious Mag podcast happen. 1711 01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,400 If you enjoyed today's episode, a quick five star review on 1712 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:18,280 Apple Podcasts or Spotify helps people find this show and we 1713 01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,160 read every single one. You can find 1714 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,960 muchmoretrackandfieldcoverage@sidiousmag.com and you can follow along across 1715 01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,520 all of Sidiousmag's social channels. 1716 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:27,880 We'll see you next time. 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