1 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:10,280 All right, it is July 1st. Wow, I can't believe this year 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,160 is absolutely flying by. Crete's all smiles right now 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,560 because we're recording this just minutes after England won 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,840 their World Cup match. So Preet, congratulations. 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Very stressful we went behind, which is unexpected for a large 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,760 part of the game. So yeah, glad that's over now. 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,360 It's a good game. USA playing tonight. 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,120 So by the time this podcast is out, either people the game has 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,040 already happened or it will happen 'cause we will turn this 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,240 around fairly, fairly quick. But for all intents and 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,640 purposes, this podcast won't be previewing the World Cup. 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,040 We're going to be previewing the Pre Classic because track season 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,560 rolls on and we've got 2 days of action taking place this weekend 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,880 at Eugene. I won't be making the trip out 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,400 there this time around, but we will have a Sidious Mag live pre 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,720 show on both days of the meet that will be streaming it on the 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Sidious Mag YouTube channel. It'll be hosted by Paul Hock 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Mahoney and Karen Lesowitz. There's going to be some special 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,480 guests. They already announced that 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,400 Don's Daily will be popping by the Sidious mag set, which is 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,240 cool. I've heard of rumour of Shelly 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,040 Ann Fraser price. I don't know if I'm supposed to 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,040 say that now, but. You just started the rumour. 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,360 It was. Well, she's there as a special 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,240 guest, right? So yes. 26 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:34,040 We're gonna and. I I think every effort we made 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,880 to get her on. Yeah, then Saturday I think 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,760 they'll get some of the athletes that compete on Friday, so 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,320 should be a special time. If you are out in the Eugene 30 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:49,280 area, the Sidious Mag Pre Show will be taking place. 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,600 Let me get, let me make sure I get it right here at the VIP 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Village and the Fan Festival stage Friday, July 3rd at 7:00 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,640 PM and Saturday, Saturday, July 4th at 11 AM. 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,000 So. But but today, Chris, we're 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,400 going to do the Sidious Mag pre show, correct? 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Yes. So this will be more of a full 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:17,360 on breakdown of the fields and what we're looking forward to 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,680 because you can only cram in so much in the allotted time when 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,120 they're on site. And so, yeah, all right, let's 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,760 get into it. Let's start with Friday. 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Friday will be an evening meet late on the East Coast, but 42 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:35,120 worth staying up for because there will be some good races. 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,640 You've got some B sections of the 1500 and of the mile. 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,080 That's pretty typical for the Pre Classic at this point where 45 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,080 you'll see some recent college grads, some pros who even some 46 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,720 high schoolers, I guess all mixing it up in these 1500 miles 47 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,480 on on Friday night. But really, I guess like the the 48 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,720 biggest events of Friday night, because we're going to spend 49 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,120 more time talking about Saturday, is this men's 800 and 50 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,360 the men's two mile that will be going down. 51 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,800 So in the 800, you've got Cooper Luckenhouse Racing, first Pre 52 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,240 Classic as a professional and you've got the three members of 53 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Team USA from last year, Donovan Brazier, Bryce Hopple also in 54 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,600 it. What the storyline with this is, 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,280 I mean, clearly we know Cooper's fitter than everyone else. 56 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Second fastest man in the world right now, just won the Oslo 57 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Diamond League where he beat Emmanuel Wagnoni. 58 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,840 So clear your favorite. I guess we're just hoping to see 59 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,920 some forward progress from the likes of Donovan Brazier and 60 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Bryce Hopple because the next best person I think in this 61 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,960 field would probably be Slimane Mullah. 62 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,760 Who has been just sort of the guy who's almost wrecked a 63 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,520 couple of these Diamond League races just from like getting in 64 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,600 people's way and and jostling. But for the most part is going 65 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,040 to be the Cooper Lachenhouse show. 66 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,240 But I'm hoping to see Donovan Brazier or Bryce Hopple just a 67 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,440 little bit closer. Is that necessarily, I guess 68 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,960 like what, what, how we're sizing this one up for Kyle? 69 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,519 No, no, I was waiting for you to talk about Brandon Miller. 70 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,440 Oh yeah, I guess, yeah. Has, you know, looked incredible 71 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:27,320 his last two times out in Lai mean his he ran 143 nine at the 72 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,520 LA Grand Prix and the amount of distance he put on the field in 73 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,360 the last hundred, it was like it was it was honestly like a high 74 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,720 school dual meet to him. It was incredible. 75 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:44,760 So I am very excited to see just what he can do in even more 76 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,840 competitive field. So that's that's one name you 77 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:50,840 left out there, Chris. Because he was last year. 78 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:53,280 And I'm going to throw in Elliot Crest and just because. 79 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,320 Go ahead. He's the, you know, he's the 80 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,720 second fastest, yeah, Elliot Crest and second fastest guy in 81 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,080 this field this year. So and he's so consistent. 82 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,480 So you always expect him to be up there and mixing it up at the 83 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,960 top end. But yeah, Brandon Miller, I 84 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,640 think has obviously shown the most form of what any of the 85 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,040 Americans and yeah, you you would hope for progress from 86 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,360 Brazier and and Hopple. Yeah, I guess. 87 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,360 The reason? He he slipped in my mind was 88 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,120 because last year there he was one of the four guys we expected 89 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,640 to make the team right. It was Hoey Hopple, Brazier and 90 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,480 Brandon Miller. Then you had Cooper stun the 91 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,680 world at USAS and then since then and because of Tokyo, I 92 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,600 guess like, you know, I kind of was just like, all right, I 93 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,200 didn't necessarily relegate Brandon Miller, but I was like, 94 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,560 all right, he's not in that top 4 now. 95 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,120 But with the absence of Hoey and also seeing that Bryce Hopple 96 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,360 hasn't been close to the form of last year that there has been I 97 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,600 guess this opportunity for Brandon Miller to step in as 98 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,600 essentially I guess US as number two or three guy right now. 99 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,320 It's going to be a good race. I, I hate this for Cooper 100 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,400 because all of a sudden this went from being like the type of 101 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,480 field you want to be mixing it up in to like the ultimate 102 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,040 target on your back. If he loses, no one in this race 103 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,960 should beat him, right? Like that's now where we're at. 104 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,920 He is, there's, I would say 2 guys in the world maybe that 105 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,840 it's acceptable for him to lose to right now. 106 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:30,680 And that would probably be when Yoni and I wrote. 107 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:37,040 And it just it's that's the the sort of pressure that comes with 108 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,760 running as well as he had. But this is probably I'm going 109 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,240 through in my head. This is might be one of the the 110 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:50,560 first races of such a high caliber where he cannot surprise 111 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,800 us here anymore. There's nothing he can do. 112 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,960 I think in this field that's going to shock us because he. 113 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,600 He can only disappoint. Us. 114 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,360 Yeah, that's a tough boat to be. I mean, I guess he could improve 115 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,080 upon his season's best and therefore his personal best, but 116 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,040 I don't know if that's happening in this field. 117 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,680 It'd be impressive. But yeah, it seems like it's his 118 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,200 race to lose, which seems to have happened overnight, that 119 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,320 transition. Yeah. 120 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,840 And I think the slightly unfortunate thing is we were due 121 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,600 to see him go up against Jamal Sajati, who's the other member 122 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,640 of the big Three in the current kind of world rankings that he 123 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,480 hasn't yet gone up against. And Sajati has scratched. 124 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,000 He's showed up on the Monaco start list next week. 125 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,680 But but he he has not appeared anywhere since the world 126 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,400 championship final where where he took silver in Tokyo. 127 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,920 So that's another interesting one as to where where he's been. 128 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,560 But but in terms of Cooper, that would have been the race that we 129 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,800 maybe wanted to see that we're now unfortunately not going to 130 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,400 get here. And then the understanding is 131 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,800 that Cooper's going to run USAS. And then there was talk that he 132 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,760 was going to just shut it down and not run the ultimate 133 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,920 championships to get back to to school. 134 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,600 But I'm like, no, you go all the way through. 135 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,800 You could take a break, of course, or just get into a block 136 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,720 of training without racing in August. 137 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,080 But I, I just checked the road to the ultimate rankings. 138 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,680 He's sitting pretty clear in fourth right now. 139 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,600 He doesn't even have to run Usas like that wouldn't impact him 140 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,600 much if he chose to sit that one out and then just train until 141 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,799 Diamond League final or to World Ultimate Championships. 142 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,280 As of right now, the only other American in there's only two 143 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,320 other Americans right now in the world ultimate quota and that 144 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,120 would be Brandon Miller and Donovan Brazier. 145 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,720 Even Sajati is not in the quota whatsoever because he hasn't 146 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,200 raced at all. So that guy's got his work cut 147 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,880 out for him. But yeah, I mean, we'll we'll 148 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,160 just see, I guess. Like this being a big Nike meet, 149 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,640 it makes sense that they want to showcase Cooper Luckenhouse in 150 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,880 some way, shape or form. And they get the the rerun of 151 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,160 last year's US Championships with the big three in there 152 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,760 minus like Hoey, who's still out due to injury. 153 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Shifting gears next to the men's two mile, I looked at the field 154 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,920 and then looked at the season's 5K list. 155 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,840 You've got five of the world's top 9 in the 5K in this one, 156 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,880 including Andreas Almgren, Parker Wolf, Grant Fisher, Kai 157 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:41,000 Robinson, Mez Mezgebu, Sime from from Ethiopia. 7 of the world's 158 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,120 top 23 of the this year's top four Americans are in it. 159 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,480 Wolf Fisher, beetle scum. So this one's got the potential 160 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,920 to also be fairly quick. It's being run at 9:16 PM, so 161 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,600 temperatures should have cooled down and it should be pretty 162 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,960 good weather for it. American record is 8 O3 by Grant 163 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,320 Fisher I believe, right from the Milrose 2 mile that that would 164 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,120 make sense, right? That's indoors, though. 165 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,720 It's a whole different ball game. 166 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Yeah, but I would figure like this I, I, I guess I could be on 167 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,120 the table with this kind of field. 168 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,400 It all depends, I guess. Like there hasn't been any sort 169 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,320 of like pacing assignment. But this one should be a fun 170 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,400 race. You get a little bit of a 171 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,160 rematch. Grant is coming off of that, 172 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,280 that Diamond League victory in Paris. 173 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:35,840 But Almgren, him versus Almgren is always an entertaining race. 174 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,200 What are you looking for in this one, Kyle? 175 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,960 Yeah, I'm also keeping an eye on Mohammed Abdullah from Germany. 176 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,040 So I mean, we last saw him in China. 177 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:52,200 So he won the 3K there in Kakao and then he was second in 178 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,760 Xiamen. And so that was the last time we 179 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,720 saw him. He he won the 10:00 earlier this 180 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,080 season as well. I think that might still be the 181 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,360 world leader in the 10K. And so yeah, I think he's going 182 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,680 to be in it. The thing that I want to see is 183 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,680 I want to see the these guys like really just push it. 184 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,440 Like let's not let's not wait around. 185 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,680 It's a two mile. It's a non Diamond League event. 186 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:18,600 Like let's just RIP from the start. 187 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,400 It's going to feel short for these guys at this point in the 188 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,960 season. So I'd love to see a hot pace 189 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,960 really, really early on. Preet who you've got your eyes 190 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,200 on. Yeah, I'm intrigued to see like 191 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Kyle Robinson's look pretty good this season, so I'm intrigued to 192 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,040 see what he can do. I mean, Parker Wolf versus Grant 193 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,520 Fisher is I think the match up that I'm I'm kind of keenest to 194 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,720 see just certainly from an American perspective. 195 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Marker Langan's obviously going pro now, so how is he going to 196 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:56,120 stack up against all the other Americans is also also 197 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,840 interesting. I mean, yeah, that that one's 198 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,000 hard to tell how we. And that, I guess, is what makes 199 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 it interesting. And yeah, I agree with Kyle that 200 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,960 Mohamed Abdullahi is probably the guy to watch that could win 201 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,080 the whole thing. I think even if you know, people 202 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,520 might not be watching out for him because just because of the 203 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,040 form he has shown so far this season. 204 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,160 That's Friday night. Let's move over to Saturday's 205 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:32,920 main event, which gets underway on the track at 12:30 PM Pacific 206 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,640 Time with the women's 100 meter heat. 207 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,800 So they've, they're going to, you know, have two heats of this 208 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,600 thing because it's it's absolutely loaded. 209 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,840 You got, I'm looking through it how they have the entries here. 210 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,440 They've got both the Clayton twins, they've got a Deja Hodge, 211 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Amy Hunt, Sharika Jackson, MJW, Kerry Richardson, who else? 212 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:01,800 Dina Asher Smith is in it so many people that I mean there's 213 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,280 a good chance that some really good people don't even make the 214 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,840 the final. Carey obviously coming off of 215 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,200 that 1077 in Florida. How does she back that up? 216 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,840 And then Melissa Jefferson wouldn't also, you know, the 217 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,160 reigning world champion, how she's going to do in this one. 218 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,560 But then at the same time, it's like Adesha Hodge didn't win the 219 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:27,480 NCA final after breaking the NCAA record in the prelim. 220 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,960 It's like, how does she fare against these pros at this point 221 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,200 in this season? So I'm curious to see how this 222 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,960 one shakes out. But should be a really, really 223 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,000 good field. I I guess like without a 224 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,360 traditional global championship, it's like how many of these 225 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,320 people are we going to see, Like how many more opportunities are 226 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,280 we going to get see some of these people go head to head 227 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,000 before September is is the question. 228 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,440 Like some of these people will likely sit out the US 229 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,400 championships. MJW has the buy for Budapest 230 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,000 already, so she doesn't necessarily need to go, but 231 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,480 we'll see just exactly how Shakiri backs up that 1077 232 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,720 because you know, that was, you know, kind of a statement 233 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,640 Victor, her fastest time since Budapest 2023 pre. 234 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,840 Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. 235 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,400 This, you know, there are going to be a lot of people that don't 236 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,680 make this final and obviously we want to see the proper head to 237 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,760 heads. Now I'm just thinking back to 238 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,920 that chaos we had in LA where they had a similar format to the 239 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,280 meet couple of years ago and then those Shikari and Talu and 240 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,400 a bunch of others who qualified for the final and then didn't 241 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,440 run it and there were like 4 people left in the final. 242 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,560 It was crazy. And we were looking forward to 243 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,360 an amazing race and then it just didn't happen. 244 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,280 It was a real damp squib. I think Nike hopefully has a bit 245 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,400 more influence to say to the athletes like you are not 246 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,680 messing this up for our TV window for, you know, NBC for 247 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,560 all of that. And I, I hope that this year, 248 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,720 like everyone does, who who qualifies out the heat does show 249 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,400 up on the start line of the final because I think we want to 250 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:13,120 see at least the six people, the Clayton twins, Deja Hodge, 251 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Sharika, Jackson, Shakari and Melissa. 252 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,600 I think we want to see them all go up against each other at the 253 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,920 very least. And you know, maybe one or two 254 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,520 of them don't actually make this final, but it will be those. 255 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 I think that's the match up we want to see because we kind of 256 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,360 want to see the pecking order. You know, we don't have June and 257 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Alfred, but we have pretty much everyone else running well. 258 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,680 And like we want to see what the pecking orders like how they 259 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,600 stack up against each other because they've all run quick 260 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,960 times in isolation. Yeah, with the, with the with 261 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,120 the exception of Julian Alfred, this is the best 100M field that 262 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:52,440 you might see this entire year. And so, yeah, I mean, it's it's 263 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,240 shaping up to be a really good one, Kyle. 264 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,120 Yeah, I think it's the the best argument we've ever seen to put 265 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,640 an additional 9 lanes into Hayward Field, right. 266 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Like, but actually if you this, this is my pitch for the World 267 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Ultimate Championships. Like if this seeing this list of 268 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,840 names excites you, This is what the World Ultimate Championships 269 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,920 is going to be just like the hits only. 270 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,120 And there's a huge subplot here because only 16 women will 271 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,240 qualify for Budapest and a large number of these women right now 272 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,880 are on that bubble outside of it. 273 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,560 And so if you want to get your ranking up, beating the people 274 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,520 who are in the quota right now is the opportunity. 275 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,160 And the way to do that first and foremost is you have to qualify 276 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,560 for the final in order to get your diamond link points. 277 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,920 And so, and also a second opportunity to to put up a, a 278 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,440 strong performance. So there is a big subplot here 279 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,880 of an opportunity to just boost your ranking and get inside. 280 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,720 I mean, one name that stands out who's who's just outside right 281 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,680 now is Cambria Sturgis. Like, she's been looking really 282 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,960 strong all season. And, you know, she's ranked, I 283 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:04,079 think 21st or so 22nd right now. So it's like she needs to get in 284 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,280 that final. Like it is essential for her if 285 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,599 she's gonna hope to eventually compete at in the 100 in 286 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:14,040 Budapest. Yep, all right, predictions. 287 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:22,720 Who we taking in this one? I go MJW, but I don't see any 288 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,560 reason why I would go against her right now. 289 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,760 There's she's now, she's now got a couple races under her belt 290 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,800 too. And yeah, I like it. 291 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,760 I guess I also am gonna side with Mos Jefferson Wooden 292 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,800 because I don't necessarily put as much stock in Florida 293 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,160 Claremont area times until I see them, you know, actually backed 294 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,360 up at a Diamond League or a more legit meet. 295 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:53,480 So although the 1077 by Shakira was super encouraging, I need to 296 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,400 see it in a more legit setting. And so for now, I'll stick with 297 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Melissa Jefferson. Wouldn't are we? 298 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,880 Are we going MJW sweep here, Brett? 299 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:07,160 I I would, but just to be interesting I am going to go. 300 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,760 Say Amy Hunt. Say Amy Hunt. 301 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,920 Oh God, well, no, I love Amy and I I think she could PB. 302 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,600 She could definitely run a personal best here, I think, I 303 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,040 think I think that's what she'll be looking to do and I think she 304 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,480 could and you know, with the Haywood Haywood magic, but I'm 305 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,880 going to go for one of the Clayton twins. 306 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,240 I won't tell you which one, but one of them I think could could 307 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:27,960 pretty. Surprise. 308 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Do you think they'd ever like I guess like there's enough, you 309 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,480 know, video footage and and and way ways to tell them apart. 310 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,240 They would run. We've we've talked about this 311 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,840 before. They run in the opposite 312 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,000 person's bib. This is. 313 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:49,320 Your favorite idea? Hey, I'm just on the cusp of 314 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,240 qualifying for the World Ultimate Championships. 315 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,400 Can you do me a big favor and go improve my world ranking by 316 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,840 running better for me? Who knows? 317 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,080 Just just just give it a thought. 318 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,800 All right, moving on, staying on the track, Men's 400 next to 319 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,640 that which there are four men in the field with lifetime best of 320 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:17,920 4345 or faster BU sang Colin Kevin Ishippi has been the man 321 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,480 to beat this year after another statement victory at the Paris 322 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,880 Diamond League, where he ran 4354. 323 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,800 He's the guy to beat and at the very beginning of the year, I 324 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,920 guess like predictions wise, I was like Rye Benjamin's going to 325 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,880 win the 400 at the World Ultimate Championships. 326 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:40,520 For now, I'd just like to see him be very, very close because 327 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,640 Rye is entered in this field racing an open 400. 328 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,960 We'll get to gauge what his flat speed is looking like right now 329 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,080 because his lifetime best 4431 from 2018. 330 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,440 But he's shown all throughout his career through the relays 331 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,840 that if this dude just dedicated himself to the flat 400 for an 332 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,640 entire season, it could be a problem for people. 333 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,320 And that seems to be the case. Obviously bypassed on several 334 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,240 lucrative opportunities as the reigning Olympic and world 335 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,920 champion to show up at these diamond leagues. 336 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,760 Like we're left with just sort of like the if he was still in 337 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,720 the 400 hurdles, how would he be doing? 338 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Because Dos Santos has levelled up, Warholm has kind of slipped 339 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,280 off a little bit and Rye has just taken to. 340 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,040 The flat 400. And so he did skip out on a 341 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,120 couple of other meets that he had been announced for. 342 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:36,280 So there's maybe kind of a little bit of a concern of like, 343 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,560 is he at 100%? But we'll get our answers on on 344 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,400 Saturday. So, Kyle, what are you looking 345 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,200 for from Rye in this one against Kevin Ishippe? 346 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,960 Yeah, I think for Rye it's challenge him. 347 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:56,840 I don't think you have to win right now if he just stay close 348 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,360 and make it a race. I mean, we saw how well Colin's 349 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:06,280 closed recently and as long as Rye is there to feel that, I 350 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,640 feel like that'd be some valuable information going to 351 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,040 the next couple months of the season. 352 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,840 But the the storyline here is essentially like, do you think 353 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,360 an American wins? Who do you? 354 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,120 I mean, basically what the entire field is American except 355 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:21,320 Colin. I think Ezekiel's in there as 356 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,080 well. No Oh Ghazi, no Nene. 357 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,440 I think they're both Adidas athletes who probably would be 358 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,320 like the two biggest names that are missing. 359 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,280 But who do you got, America or the world in this one? 360 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,880 Yeah, it is. It's we're literally throwing 361 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,600 everyone at. We'll give them everything we 362 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,600 got. This the intriguing one will be 363 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,560 Michael Norman, right? Like, because he had disappeared 364 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,360 for all the the entirety of of 2025. 365 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,800 And he's, you know, he's always been a big wild card. 366 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:02,280 And if he's fully healthy, he's got one of the highest ceilings 367 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:09,120 of anybody in this race. So similarly to rye, I hope he's 368 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,200 close as well. And then there's just sort of 369 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,800 like the veteran experience of a Vernon Norwood, a Chris Bailey, 370 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,600 Jacory Patterson. So the Team USA is looking good 371 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,040 in this one, but Kevin Ishippi has looked otherworldly at this 372 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,360 point. Preet. 373 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:29,440 Yeah, who's who's that pick? So that pick was for the world. 374 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Yeah, I think I'm going to go Kevin and Shippy. 375 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,320 I'm sticking with Rye for World Ultimate champion. 376 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,880 But for now, you know, let Kevin and Shippy win the battle. 377 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,160 Rye will win the war. I mean, Kenneth Shippy ran, you 378 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,120 know, a 100th of his PBA few days ago in Paris. 379 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:53,640 It just he's, he's in crazy shape right now. 380 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,520 I, I just don't see anyone beating him or, or coming close 381 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,880 to him. I think you just have to see how 382 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,160 you know. Can Jacory Patterson get into 383 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,080 the 40 threes again? Can Norman improve? 384 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,040 What's Rye got? I mean, rise PB is only 4421 and 385 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,240 we know obviously he hasn't taken the 400 all that, like 386 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:16,400 seriously. So. 387 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,960 And I'm sure it would have been, would be much better if he had. 388 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:26,000 So yeah, it will be good to see what you know, what he can show. 389 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,640 But yeah, you're right, I think given he's pulled out a couple 390 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,040 of meets, I'm not expecting a huge amount from him. 391 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,240 I think Caleb McRae is the other one that that could mix it up in 392 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,200 this race if he's gets back to his best form because he's a 43 393 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,600 second runner as well. But yeah, it will be. 394 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,400 The missed opportunity here is that Tobogo's in the 200 because 395 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,480 without Kenny in the 200 and without knowing the 200, the 200 396 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,160 is just going to be to Bogo and that's it. 397 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Like, and after all of the back and forth that we had earlier 398 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,400 this season about Botswana in the US in the 4 by 4 World 399 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,080 Relays, it's like, well, you know what, we've had this 400 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,720 country for 250 years. Let's get a little bit 401 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,400 patriotic. Give four lanes to Americans and 402 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:20,080 give four lanes to athletes from Botswana and let's Duke it out. 403 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,960 They fight the. I think that would be the most 404 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,320 intriguing potential match up that we could have had here. 405 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,560 But yeah, I I honestly tobogo in the 200 is a waste in my 406 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,080 opinion. It's it makes that 200 less 407 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,280 interesting because he's going to do just enough to win. 408 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,640 And meanwhile, the real race that would have been extremely 409 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,520 interesting had he been in is this 400. 410 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,000 Agreed. I think when I was we're gonna 411 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,080 we're going in order of the events on Saturday and my notes 412 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:57,000 for the 200 were just sort of like no Noah, not even like gout 413 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,560 gout like who's. Lavelle. 414 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,400 I mean, Kenny's in the 100, so like there's no. 415 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,960 Yeah, Kenny's in the 100, but I'm just. 416 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:10,400 Saying like Kenny's like 200 so. It's like, yeah, to bogo it if 417 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,680 Sam Blaskowski tobogo that's the biggest win for America on July 418 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,040 4th that people could have dreamt of. 419 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,480 But I I can maybe say that the likelihood of that happening is 420 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,600 maybe under 10%, maybe even smaller than that. 421 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,640 George Rochdale. Will roll over his grave if that 422 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,400 happens, but come back from the dead. 423 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,560 If if Sam Pleskowski wins, yeah, no gout gout either. 424 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:44,560 And so the 200 is kind of lacking, but 400? 425 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,160 I'm gonna go with Kevin Neshippy over the field in this one. 426 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,000 So are you the only one taking America, Kyle? 427 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,240 Did I officially take? America, I don't think I did OK. 428 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,560 All right. So we're not as high on our 429 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,160 hopes for for for this one just before we. 430 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,160 Move on from 4 hundreds, should we quickly touch on the women's 431 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,840 four, which we which is on Friday, but we we missed it and 432 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,960 sort of there's no. Paulino No Nasser. 433 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,600 It's just they they were. Announced and they scratched 434 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,840 again. Like it seems all a bit weird, 435 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,040 but NASA appears to have pieced out on the season entirely, 436 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:29,240 whilst Paulino obviously ran really well and yeah, destroyed 437 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,400 the fields last week. And yeah, she's, you know, she's 438 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,360 run 48 five. So I'm surprised she hasn't come 439 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:39,560 here to try and run a run another 47 because this would be 440 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,880 a great track to do it on. But yeah, we'll see the I think 441 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,200 the interesting thing about this, we see the season debut of 442 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,280 Rushida Adelecki, who's been after coming forth at the 443 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,400 Olympics, obviously had a tough year with injury last year. 444 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,520 And she's announced both for this meet and then then for 445 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,880 Monaco next week. And then we get to see Desean, a 446 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:05,320 Oakley NCAA champion against Ella Onichiwevo, who is the 447 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,720 other person we're expecting to contend the NCAA's. 448 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,000 And then she didn't and it appears she's kind of turned 449 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,520 pro. But yeah, that that's the match 450 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,400 up. We didn't get NCAA's that that 451 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,720 we now get to see. So yeah, not not a huge amount 452 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,240 in that 400, but but a couple of interesting storylines. 453 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,760 This episode of the. City of Smack. 454 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,080 Podcast is supported by Bandit. There are athletes competing at 455 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,160 the championship level who make exactly $0.00 from the brands 456 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,800 whose logos they wear on the start line. 457 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,000 Bandits and sponsored Project flips that. 458 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,440 Let's learn more. All right, we are. 459 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,400 Here with Tim Rossi, the head of experiences at Bandit, because 460 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,880 Bandit is coming back with the unsponsored project for. 461 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Year 4, Tim, Why does Bandit continue to show up for 462 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,680 unsponsored athletes in track and field? 463 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,840 Yeah, Chris Stoked. To be here talking about 464 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,960 unsponsored project Year 4, it's crazy that this initiative we 465 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,120 started in 2023 is on year 4 now. 466 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,760 I think the main reason that we're burning this back and and 467 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,480 continue to invest is it continues to serve a need within 468 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,440 the sport. The the top top of the athletes 469 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,080 in the sport of track and field are getting taken care of and 470 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,880 making a great amount of money, which is absolutely awesome. 471 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,760 We love to see that. But there does still continue to 472 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,360 be this need of raising the floor for those athletes that 473 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:26,520 are pursuing the sport at the highest level, but maybe haven't 474 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,880 had that breakthrough, maybe have went through a rough patch 475 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560 in terms of injury or performance for a year or two 476 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,360 and are just falling through the cracks of the sponsorship model 477 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:37,200 that we have right now. So the unsponsored projects 478 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880 coming back supporting some of those individuals competing at 479 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,200 US outdoors that don't have a brand supporting them right now. 480 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,320 So what is an? Athlete get when they join in 481 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,840 bandits unsponsored project yeah so it's. 482 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,840 Grown every single year, which is really cool. 483 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,560 But we talk about the key pillars. 484 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Cash is the least sexy thing to talk about, but also the most 485 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,480 important for athletes. A lot of the time we just have 486 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,560 cash as part of every single one of these agreements. 487 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,960 The athletes can use that on whatever they want as part of 488 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,240 this agreement. Generally speaking, we try and 489 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,840 have that cover, ideally travel costs, housing, potentially some 490 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,520 additional cash into people's pockets depending on what hotel 491 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,920 they're staying in or something like that. 492 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,280 But travel for this meet is super, super important to cover. 493 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Then the unbranded gear has become a huge part of this as 494 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,400 well, so that the athletes can demonstrate that they're 495 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,520 unsponsored when competing on the track. 496 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,000 The release clause is an extraordinarily important part 497 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,280 of these agreements where athletes are free to be released 498 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,400 from our agreement should another brand come with a 499 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,280 traditional sponsorship model at any point during these 500 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,760 agreements. And then a platform is the last 501 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,080 thing we really want to promote and talk about these athletes 502 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,120 and their amazing stories and really prop them up within the 503 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,480 sport for the amazing performances that they are 504 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,000 putting together and and how high of a level they are 505 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 competing at. So those are the four key things 506 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,400 that we talk about within these agreements. 507 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,560 How can they find it? Yeah, that's a great. 508 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,760 Question, you set it right there. 509 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,840 This program and this support is targeted, right for individuals 510 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,120 planning to compete the US Outdoor Track and Field 511 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600 Championships stoke that it's in New York this year. 512 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,680 Right now, the best way to get in touch with us would be to 513 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440 reach out to the bandit support e-mail and those individuals 514 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,920 will connect you with me. That's 515 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,840 support@banditrunning.com. So if you're planning to compete 516 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040 at US Outdoors, I'd reach out there. 517 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,320 I'll be proactively reaching out to people. 518 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,240 It's not, again, the fanciest thing in the world. 519 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,120 Maybe check your DMS if you're an athlete that's looking at US 520 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,000 outdoors. But yeah, reaching out to 521 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,000 support@banditrunning.com is the best way to get in touch right 522 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,320 now for. More on Bandits. 523 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,480 And sponsored project Stick around at the end of this 524 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:49,400 episode. That's the women's 400, men's 525 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,720 110 hurdles in this one. It's Jacoby Tharp's first race 526 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:00,320 against pros this season, and he's following up the world 527 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,560 record here. Here's what I'll say. 528 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,600 Just to him, running that world record in the prelim is kind of 529 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,840 taken so much of the excitement out of some of these Diamond 530 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,520 leagues. Or you'll see someone win in 531 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,760 like 1301 and be like, oh, like, yeah. 532 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,120 But Jacoby ran so much faster just a couple weeks ago, so get 533 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400 to see him in action. And of course, like the hurdles, 534 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,280 which we'll get to also in the women's 100 hurdles, Hayward 535 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,240 just seems to be the place for it. 536 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,280 Kind of a couple weeks ago you were looking at some of the 537 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,960 numbers. Right on both the 110 and the 538 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,480 100 hurdles and just how well Hayward is a home for them. 539 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,720 I mean both world. Records were set in prelims at 540 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,760 Hayward. But Chris, I need to go back. 541 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,440 I need to double click into what you just said about taking the 542 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,680 steam out of some of the other events. 543 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,080 The Diamond Leagues, if they're First off, don't fall for the 544 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,000 time trap. It's all about beating people 545 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,480 and if there's ever event where one athlete can really mess up 546 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560 and there throw other athletes rhythms off, it's in the 547 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,400 hurdles. And so it's almost like we saw 548 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,680 Jacoby run really well in a prelim because he didn't have 549 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920 anyone near him. He could just run completely his 550 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,640 own race, be in his own rhythm. Now we get an opportunity to see 551 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,120 how he does when Jamal Britt, who's coming off a 1289, does 552 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,040 presumably in the lane next to him. 553 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,240 And like, what does that do? I mean, it's a completely 554 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,200 different race when you're you're just dominating versus 555 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,920 when you have multiple guys all around you. 556 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,360 And I have a feeling that Cordell probably backed off a 557 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,800 little in training the last week. 558 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,560 I think. I think these guys probably do 559 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,560 not want this narrative of Jacoby Tharpis, the best turtler 560 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,440 in the world, to continue. They'll say nice things in 561 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,600 social media, but they're that's not what they feel totally. 562 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,280 And this is an event that the turnover happens really, really 563 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,760 fast to try and stay at the top, which again, I think we talked 564 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,520 about two weeks ago. It was just like major kudos to 565 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Grant Albey for being able to sustain himself at the top of 566 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,040 this event for as long as he did. 567 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,080 He was announced for this one, but he's still coming back from 568 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,840 from injury. And so he's not in it. 569 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,760 But yeah, I totally agree with your point, Kyle, of just sort 570 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,960 of like, now let's forget the fact that the world record was 571 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,960 set. Let's just focus on who's 572 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,040 beating who in this one. Cordell Tinch is the reigning 573 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,560 world champion. Doesn't want just sort of people 574 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,880 to forget that so quickly. So now I'm curious to see how 575 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,080 they fare head to head because I guess, like, I, I meant to look 576 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,240 up what the all time record between Tinch and Tharp is, but 577 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,400 it's got to be fairly close and those guys will be facing off 578 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,600 against one another for years to come. 579 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,560 Yeah. Are we leaning towards anyone in 580 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,440 particular? Is anyone picking against the 581 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,800 world record holder in this one? I could see. 582 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Jamaal Britt winning, like I don't, he's got the momentum, 583 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,080 he's got the confidence right now. 584 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,199 And also I'm just going through his his World Athletics. 585 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,800 Oh, it's insane. Oh my God, what? 586 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,120 Does he race 30 plus times already this year? 587 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,679 Yeah, I think. It's like 12 or 14. 588 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,760 We have this since. April we, I mean, we always, I 589 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,199 feel like talk about how much we love the athletes who race all 590 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,800 the time, like the Nizomi Tanakas of the world, the Audrey 591 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,520 Vera's of the world. Like they just race and race and 592 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,440 race. And like that's it's very easy 593 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,600 to be fans of people who are just very visible and throw 594 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,400 Jamal Britt on that list. I can't believe how much he's 595 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,920 raced this season. So I am rooting for Brit. 596 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,159 I'll say that because I think it it's the most interesting 597 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:54,679 narrative because right now people think just the difference 598 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:01,000 of a split second, a 10th of a second or whatever is like an 599 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,040 insurmountable amount, but it's it is not. 600 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,760 I want to put together. The graphic, we just need to ask 601 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,200 him for all the information, but like how many flights has he 602 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,120 been on so far this year to travel to all of these means 603 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,800 because like factor in connections and all that kind of 604 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,080 stuff. It's incredible. 605 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,600 Yeah, it's. Incredible. 606 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,080 That's not easy. That's not an easy part of the 607 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,680 job as a professional runner. So it's just like 10 countries 608 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,200 already. Jeez Preet, who you taking I. 609 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,680 I'm gonna say, I mean, yeah, I'd probably take Jamal Britt, but I 610 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,960 want to throw in a dark horse as well in Kendra Menendez, who has 611 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,040 been really consistent and getting better and better with 612 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,280 every race. His PB is now 1302, so I'm 613 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,240 looking at him to go go sub 13 in this race. 614 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Yeah, so. So I just want to give him a 615 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,080 shout out. All right, I'll probably go. 616 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,880 I'll go to Jacoby Thar just because someone's got to pick 617 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,280 the world record holder in this one. 618 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,720 Women's two mile. This field was announced 619 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,200 yesterday. It's got tons of eight of the 14 620 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,240 entrants are Ethiopian. Ashley Boeke is maybe the the 621 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,880 favorite highest. She's the fastest person in the 622 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,000 field, having run 1418 so far this season. 623 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:29,160 World #2 in the 5K, just 20 years old, has tons of great 624 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,560 credentials so far this season. Then you've also got Hirik 625 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,800 Machesha, a Sayich, A Ichu. Those are the three Ethiopians 626 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,440 within the top ten in the 5K list. 627 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Martha Alamayou also there. So we're going to probably see 628 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,520 one of those Ethiopian showdowns where there's six people with 629 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,920 800 meters to go and then four people with a lap to go and 630 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,320 they're just duking it out and it'll be a close finish. 631 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:02,800 So that's you know what might happen at the front end of this 632 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,280 race. If it goes slow, then maybe you 633 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,600 can expect to see a Shelby Houlihan, Chrystia Schweiser, 634 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,080 Gabriella Stafford in it. And then the most intriguing and 635 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,280 I'll let Preet speak to this one is Ennis Fitzgerald is one of 636 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,800 Europe's and and and EU KS brightest distance prod like 637 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,920 prospects right now. What are you looking for from 638 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,240 from her? Because she hasn't, she hasn't 639 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,600 raced a whole lot this year, right She. 640 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,880 Actually raced 3K in was it Stockholm, So and she ran really 641 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,120 well there. So she I think she ran 828 was 642 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,400 it? So she ran really well there. 643 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,560 And so she, she has been looking pretty good this season. 644 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,880 I mean, she's run 1439 for for 5K. 645 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,600 She's 20 years old. And you know, yeah, she ran, 646 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,800 sorry, 833 at the Bislett games a couple of weeks ago. 647 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,400 Yeah, yeah, She's she's really good. 648 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,680 And yeah, she can again, like she can get on a train and run 649 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,600 really quick. So if The Ethiopians go for it, 650 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,520 she might just put herself in the mix. 651 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,760 She came third in a three time only three K last year as well, 652 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,960 weirdly, because again, there's not really that many strong 653 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,680 athletes in the field. And she managed to work her way 654 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,440 through and and and and this is this is one of these fields that 655 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,600 is a little weird. It's not like there's no real 656 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,840 standouts. I mean, bouquet is is probably 657 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,720 the standout, but it sort of depends if Ethiopians go for it, 658 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:34,640 make it fast. And yeah, the the Americans in 659 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,080 this field as well. Like, I'm not sure we've seen 660 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,440 like crazy things from them this season. 661 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,160 So, you know, even Krista Schweitzer hasn't looked at her 662 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,240 best. Shelby hasn't looked, you know, 663 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200 hasn't looked like the athlete that came forth in the 5K at 664 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,720 Wells last year. So yeah, I think it is. 665 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:57,040 It is pretty wide open. Is Fitzgerald the the one who 666 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,000 chose not to go to some championship because of the 667 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000 flights and like the carbon emissions? 668 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,400 So, yeah, so. She, she flies down. 669 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,440 No, no, she, she flies everywhere. 670 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,920 Her dad doesn't fly now. So her dad's quite excited to 671 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,320 see her like compete at Commonwealth Games and Europeans 672 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,800 and stuff. So yeah, now she, she does 673 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,120 leave. Just started flying. 674 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,320 Like 2024? Yeah, a couple. 675 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,840 Of years ago she, I think she started flying for races and 676 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,560 stuff. So I was like, that's. 677 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,760 Not going to work. It's like for long term just 678 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,240 sort of, you can't just not fly. If your job is a professional 679 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:41,120 runner, you got races to go. Not every championship is going 680 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,600 to be train accessible. So I was, yeah, when I saw that 681 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,680 I was like, wait, she wouldn't go to Australia? 682 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,600 How's she going to get to Eugene? 683 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,600 So unless it was like a boat or something like that. 684 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,080 But glad she's she's now on airfare. 685 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,240 OK, Kyle, you were going to say something. 686 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,080 I wish. This race was the night before. 687 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,520 This is this is a tough one in the middle between the hurdles 688 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,240 and the 100. I think people are going to get 689 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:20,960 up and go to the bathroom. The only reason, presumably why 690 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,600 this is in smack damn middle of the meet program is because it's 691 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,960 a world record attempt 858 by Mesret Dafar. 692 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,000 It's not that strong of a time from 2007. 693 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,680 It's going to be hot though, but that's a very gettable time, so. 694 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,040 That's got to be the. Only reason it's the middle of 695 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:45,200 the program, right? Like, yeah, I unless there was 696 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,480 you got to fill, but if you got to fill TV time, I wish you had 697 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,320 to your point, like this was the men's two mile field from the 698 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,040 night before. But it's this is where the 699 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,120 Diamond League disciplines and the scheduling by the Diamond 700 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,720 League kind of takes precedent. These meets only have so much 701 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,560 power and like what events they want. 702 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,080 I remember a couple years ago, like adding an 800 to the pre 703 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,040 Classic, but it wasn't a Diamond League. 704 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,680 Discipline was like, especially and during the TV window when a 705 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,240 thing MO like broke the American record was like something that 706 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,640 organizers butted heads over with the Diamond League. 707 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,480 And so there's only so much you can do sometimes. 708 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,840 But yeah, like, can we? Can we? 709 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,200 Most thrilling race. Can we run under 850? 710 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,000 Eight, though not crazy at all. Yeah, it depends on. 711 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,480 Just certainly how hot it is, right? 712 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:40,680 It's a weaker than a 1418, yeah. So. 713 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,280 Yeah, Hopefully that's set up for it, yeah, because yeah, I. 714 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,200 I, I was, I was thinking and, and now that you've said it, it 715 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,760 makes sense because otherwise I was like, what is the point of 716 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,880 it being a two mile? Like make it a 5K, make it a 3K? 717 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,760 Like what, what are we doing with it, with it, with it, with 718 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,000 a 2 mile? Frankly, like I'm just not, I'm 719 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,760 not enthused by it in the slightest. 720 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,320 And it's not even like you've got, because you've got like 6 721 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:08,120 Ethiopians, 767 Ethiopians and like five Americans. 722 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,120 It's like, it's not even like there's going to be loads of 723 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,000 national records that go or something like that, which 724 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,320 people get excited about. This is just, and it's 725 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,920 meaningless in the context of a distance that you race a 726 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,720 championship. So there's just no, I just saw a 727 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,680 little value in it. And yeah, the world record is 728 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,080 the only thing that that might make it interesting. 729 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,560 It seemed like an an opportunity to just boost Faith's profile. 730 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,520 We could have just rather than have her in the the mile the end 731 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,320 of the day, just throwing A2 mile watch her run 850 and we 732 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,960 could all like take pictures with a cardboard sign after. 733 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,720 Yeah, but then once again. That's a Diamond League 734 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:44,800 discipline later on as well, because it yeah. 735 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,200 But I guess I'm just thinking. From like Nike's perspective, 736 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,840 yeah, just. Just. 737 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,520 Go but also if this is a. Soft record but how many world 738 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,840 records are set at pre classic in the last couple of years? 739 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,160 Like, aren't they averaging like two or three a year? 740 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,880 This is a layup. Exactly. 741 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,480 So it's like we. Got to meet our quota. 742 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,960 So, so let's put a soft event in there and then maybe hope for 743 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,520 another one later on in the day with the women's mile. 744 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,840 So you need, you need faith to go for the mile one. 745 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,200 She should double. I. 746 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,280 Wouldn't put it past her to be able to win both. 747 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:25,360 So that is the women's two mile. Men's hundred is next. 748 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:31,960 This is a solid field by, you know, Diamond League standards. 749 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,000 I. Guess nowadays where you've got. 750 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,720 Oblique Seville. The reigning world champion 751 00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:45,720 going up against Kenny Bonaric, Kaincila Ajayi. 752 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,640 I think Ajayi and Oblique Seville are the only two guys 753 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,000 who are under 99 so far this season. 754 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:56,520 Oblique Seville with a really strong run out in Jamaica. 755 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:01,600 It was, I'm pretty sure. So just, you know, he's the 756 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,280 favorite. And then you've got a slew of 757 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,560 American Nike athletes who will try to keep it close, including 758 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,920 the likes of Kenny Benaric and Christian Coleman. 759 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,000 But yeah, no, no Alliles in this one. 760 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:23,880 No, no Trayvon Brummel either. So it's gonna be, I think in my 761 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,320 opinion, between Seville, Ajayi and Benaric, right? 762 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,680 Are you taking any of those three guys, Kyle? 763 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,640 Yeah, I think. Oblique, I mean, First off, it's 764 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,600 the world champ, so we should always defer to him until he's 765 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,440 beaten and then let alone coming off of like an absolute 766 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,160 fantastic race in Kingston. It just I mean, it's his race to 767 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,600 lose. I think this is like AAI want to 768 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,880 say. Is this Jai's first Diamond 769 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,440 League? Could. 770 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,880 Make sense? And so I think seeing him up 771 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,280 just against some of the pros is really exciting. 772 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:04,320 I would just like to see a well executed race from Kenny. 773 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,280 I think that's all we ever ask out of the 100. 774 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,760 Like I think the two inches is obviously like where he's going 775 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,680 to really make his money. But if he can just continue to 776 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:19,360 progress, make it a race here, then I like how that sets him up 777 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,040 for later in the season. But yeah, for me, like, it's all 778 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,160 about oblique here and the weather is looking good right 779 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,120 now. So I mean, from a a sprinter's 780 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,240 mindset, when you come to Hayward, it's just like. 781 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,160 You it's just. You've already got in your mind 782 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,080 like these impossibilities that wouldn't be like reasonable to 783 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,080 do anywhere else. But at Hayward, everyone just 784 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,800 seems to run fast. So now it's my turn. 785 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,560 So excited to see what he could do. 786 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,120 I think we're going to see something really quick. 787 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,320 Yeah, it was was Trayvon entered in this one beforehand and now 788 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,440 he's not on the start list. I thought that that was the 789 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,840 case. But if not, then like, well, 790 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,320 it's going to probably be a bit until we see him race next. 791 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:13,320 He was not necessarily like he got the win in Paris, but from 792 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,800 the technical side of things he was probably expecting a bit 793 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,160 more. And in his post race interview, 794 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,440 I think with Mitch, he like broke that down that he expected 795 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,800 to run a little bit faster. And I think he's also got a baby 796 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,680 on the way. So yeah, I was gonna say what's? 797 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,720 The due date, I'm just, I was legitimately, I went to his 798 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:30,920 Instagram. There's no like. 799 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,640 Coming June or July 2026, I think we. 800 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,520 Might be just close to a due date that that might just be the 801 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,480 the entire thing now, yeah. So think that there's a kibosh 802 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,840 on on travel for Trey for a little bit. 803 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:51,840 Fair enough. All right, let's move on over to 804 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,520 the women's steeplechase, which the Pre Classic always tends to 805 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,040 feel like a pretty stacked group. 806 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,320 This is one of your typical Perez Chermoutai versus Faith 807 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,920 Chirotich versus Winfred Yavi. They always go head to head. 808 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,880 They're the three women who have run under 852 so far this season 809 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,120 only. Yeah, they're all separated by 810 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,200 less than half a second from their best performances so far. 811 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,120 The wild card in this one, Doris Lemingold, who was the NCA 812 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:28,360 champion last year but didn't steeple this time around and had 813 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,400 that earth shattering PB last season. 814 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,160 So I'd watch out for her. And then on the American side, 815 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,360 you've got Emma Coburn returning to Hayward Field for the first 816 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:46,280 time in a while, in addition to just a preview of how Usas, you 817 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,200 know, can shake out where Gabby Jennings is the top American 818 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,120 right now. Lexi Holiday Lowry is like the 819 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,520 second fastest. So the women's steeplechase at 820 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,840 the Pre Classic, I always just take as like a temperature check 821 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,680 before the national championship and see who's where, who's got 822 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,560 some work to do to catch up in terms of fitness. 823 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:13,680 But front end will be Chimutai, Chirotich, Giruto and then and 824 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,320 Yavi. And then it'll be the Americans 825 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,000 who a lot of them started off the season in China. 826 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,720 Not incredibly great performances. 827 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,040 So how has training been going in the last month or so? 828 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,000 And what do you things look like now? 829 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,320 Anything else to note from this one, Kyle? 830 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,120 How many? Times in their careers. 831 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,880 Do you think Peruth Chenutai and Winfred Yavi have raced A 832 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,440 steeplechase? Did you look it up? 833 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,200 Oh yeah, no, I know. It's an incredible number. 834 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:54,800 I'm gonna go. 16. 30. 1 his last winfred yavi 21 peruth chenutai 835 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,840 10 dating back to how. How long ago, I think. 836 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,160 Like a few decades ago in order to get that many races in an 837 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:10,440 incredible No 2017, these two have raced 31 * / 3000 meter 838 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,360 sequel Trace. You think they're best friends? 839 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,800 They might hate each. Other or they're best friends, 840 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,880 there's no way they're just like casual acquaintances at this 841 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,840 point. They've seen. 842 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,200 So much of the world together. It should be like a children's 843 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,160 book like Whitford and Peruth. Travel the world. 844 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,760 We give a lot of credit to these 100 meter hurdlers, always for 845 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,680 showing up. But damn do these two show up. 846 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,320 And obviously faith as well. Except faith throughout. 847 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,440 The job younger so it's like in 2017 she wasn't even racing yet 848 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,640 yeah, she's catching up. She's. 849 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,320 She's getting Faith and Winfred Yavi do some secret races every 850 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,240 now and then that they don't tell Peruth about to try to get 851 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:59,520 their numbers up, but that's just an incredible stat. 852 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,440 Yeah, beyond. That I guess like there's just 853 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,560 another chapter in them going head to head. 854 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:13,240 So what is the? Quick math, what is 31 * 3000 855 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,000 and like the the amount of time that separates the two of them? 856 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,040 Chris, can you throw this into Claude real quick? 857 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,200 I bet it's like a second the. Overall. 858 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,240 Time differential in these 31 races is like, yeah, they're 859 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:30,520 always right next to each other anyway, so well. 860 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,600 I guess like what I would be thinking is how many laps of a 861 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:41,600 track have they run together? I mean 210. 862 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,720 Or something, right? A marathon, almost. 863 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:44,400 A marathon? Yeah. 864 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,880 Incredible. What do you what? 865 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,120 What's your storyline to watch in the women's people? 866 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,920 Yeah, I mean, I, I think. Obviously the top three, but 867 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,240 Mara Buziani has been kind of slowly getting closer and, and 868 00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:00,560 I'm I'm really intrigued to see how she continues to progress or 869 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,160 Restoris lemingly, can she do well? 870 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,120 A bit gutted that Elise Thorna was announced for this race and 871 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:12,160 she's scratched now. And as a European, I am 872 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,640 intrigued to see how Gaiser Krauser, who's kind of the queen 873 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,800 of European steeplechase, looks because this is her season 874 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,720 opener. So whether she's in shape for 875 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,600 Europeans or not, because obviously then it's sort of 876 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,640 whether the gold medal is a layup for Lee Stone or not will 877 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:34,080 probably depend on that. And yeah, but with with the 878 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,640 Americans, obviously this is the thing, right? 879 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,720 There is nothing to compete for. There's no world ultimates. 880 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,360 There's not really anything opening this season. 881 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,960 So if the Americans are having an offseason, this is the season 882 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:54,160 to be not running nine O 2 or whatever, you know, or trying to 883 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,920 kind of get to to, you know, 905-9090 six, which is where you 884 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,760 you'd hope the Americans could be. 885 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,680 But I, I think you know that like, yeah, you, you, I think 886 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,880 you just want to see some progress. 887 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,960 Obviously Gabby Jennings has been running well, but the 888 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,240 others have kind of looked a little disappointing, frankly. 889 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,000 And, and I just want to see some progress from from all the 890 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,160 Americans to kind of get themselves in the mix and, and 891 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,640 kind of racing well. Kylie did throw in. 892 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,320 I did it, yeah. Tell me, Tell me so the. 893 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:34,160 Average time gap between the two of them in races is 6.71 894 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,720 seconds. And in those 31 times that Yavi 895 00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:43,280 and Chimuthai have gone head to head, there's only 26, only 26 896 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:49,253 times where one of them finished or did not qualify for the head 897 00:52:49,253 --> 00:52:52,120 to head. So Yavi. 898 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,240 And so in the head to head, it's Yavi 17, Chimuthai 9. 899 00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:01,800 Their closest finish was the Paris Olympics by where Yabi won 900 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,320 by .58 seconds and then the largest gap between them, which 901 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,280 means probably one of them fell on a water barrier or something 902 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,680 like that, was 27 seconds at the 2023 Doha Diamond League. 903 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,960 But. They've spent like a total of 904 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,040 like 4 1/2 hours on the track together. 905 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,440 And also. Days together at. 906 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,320 Hotels at all of these meets. Right. 907 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,160 I mean, they're, they're domestic partners at this point 908 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,400 under the eyes of the law. They've spent that much time 909 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,680 together. It's incredible. 910 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,480 I also asked it to see like, how many laps have they run 911 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,480 together? We'll get that answer very 912 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,360 shortly. This is this. 913 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,600 Is what we. O210 you nailed it before math. 914 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:49,200 Yeah. All right, that's the most fun 915 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,920 we've had with the women's steeplechase in a while. 916 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,920 It's true, this episode of the City. 917 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,600 Smack Podcast is brought to you by Core. 918 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,880 If you've ever tried. To heat train. 919 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,840 You know the problem. It's mostly guesswork you throw. 920 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,080 On. 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It's straight final. 959 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,200 So you've got Toby, Amazon, world record holder, Messiah 960 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,720 Russell, American record holder, and also #2 in the World Grey 961 00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:27,720 Stark World Championship medalist, Kenny Harrison, former 962 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,360 former world record holder Devin Charlton, Akira Nugent. 963 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,040 This is, I mean, always an amazing field, but so many eyes 964 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,960 will be on Messiah Russell. And what does she do on this 965 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,920 magical Hayward track that yields these fast times? 966 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,600 And also, I mean, Toby just won the Paris Diamond League, so 967 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,840 it's like you can't overlook her as well. 968 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,480 So if there's a chance that the world record falls, this could 969 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,080 be it as well. Kyle. 970 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,040 Yeah, I think this is. Definitely circled on the 971 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:04,760 calendar as like the opportunity to go out and nail it. 972 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,960 I mean, we know this this is the track. 973 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,800 I love that Toby's in the race to kind of defend it and you 974 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,760 know, she's been looking good. But yeah, I mean, I I hate to 975 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,880 make this about time, but that's just what we've seen in the 100 976 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,600 meter hurdles that Hayward like this. 977 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,800 It's it's going to be. Really good I. 978 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,880 Think like the amount of at this point in the season 2, like 979 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,720 these women are just in their rhythm. 980 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,440 They've they've found their spots. 981 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,160 Like they're they're just kind of rolling through it. 982 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,680 They're running clean races right now. 983 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,320 And obviously, like, the thing that we have to look into is how 984 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,360 many times they've all raced each other and just, I, I 985 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:53,320 assumed maybe Danielle Williams and Toby Amazon have probably 986 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,560 raced the most in this fields and they're at 44. 987 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,240 Really just. Quick math, Yeah. 988 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,680 Yeah, just looked it up. So that's a pretty, I mean, but 989 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,160 you know what, they haven't done a single lap together. 990 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,320 It's true. Devon Charlton and Messiah 991 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:16,639 Russell, they've gone head to Well, they're training partners. 992 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,480 They go to head to head every single day, yeah. 993 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:27,800 The head to head between Toby and Messiah is it looks like. 994 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,760 6:00 and 6:00 or. Or five and six with Toby, I 995 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,160 think with more victories. Oh no, Messiah with more 996 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,360 victories. Toby hasn't beaten Messiah since 997 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,120 last year's world. Well, it's just last year's 998 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,760 world championship. But before that, she'd gone like 999 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,760 a Now actually, pre Classic last year, Toby finished second, 1000 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,240 Messiah finished fourth. So they do go, they do go back 1001 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,920 and forth. Messiahs 2 and O against Toby so 1002 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,560 far this season. Do we think anyone? 1003 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,480 Besides Messiah, like I I think the obvious pick is to go with 1004 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,280 Messiah. I mean, Preet, are you do you 1005 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,160 have a dark horse here? I I think Toby. 1006 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,080 'S I think Toby's looking for. I think Akira is adapting to a 1007 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,640 new training group. So she's moved back to Jamaica 1008 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,440 and she's adapting to a new training group. 1009 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,880 So she hasn't quite put things together yet this season, but I 1010 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,240 think that that probably is the reason behind it. 1011 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,280 We haven't really seen the best of Danielle Williams either this 1012 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:33,280 season, but I do think Toby Amazon has looked really good. 1013 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,960 She's been winning races and with Messiah Russell, yeah, she 1014 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,520 can pop out a 12, you know, she can pop out a 12/1 something. 1015 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,920 But I think Toby's getting back to the kind of shape where she 1016 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,520 could do it too. So I am intrigued to see if she 1017 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,680 can she can do that again. Should be a good one. 1018 00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,040 Women's 800, one of the we we've spent so much time talking about 1019 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,080 the women's 800 over the last couple weeks, but it is just 1020 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,760 sort of like one of the most compelling events right now. 1021 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,520 And for this one, let's see where Keely's at right, like 1022 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:14,040 after the British champs withdrawal in the 400 moments 1023 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,960 before the final is about to go off. 1024 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,400 One major kudos, honestly, like I guess like in the last episode 1025 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,200 Preet when like we discussed like oh is. 1026 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,200 Is Audrey Weiro still on top? Is Audrey Weiro now on top? 1027 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,400 Is Keely? You know #2 like, after the last 1028 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,720 couple weeks, we'll give a lot of credit to Keely, Trevor 1029 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,560 Painter, Jenny Meadows for like, not pushing it when they didn't 1030 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,880 need to when at that British Champs final. 1031 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,160 Like they, like Keely recognized something was off, you know, 1032 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:50,120 after she did one or two push outs out of the blocks and the 1033 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,400 wise decision was made not to race. 1034 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,320 I don't know how many other athletes would take would make 1035 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,960 it that far before, you know, calling it. 1036 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,240 And as painful and as upsetting as it was, it didn't wipe away 1037 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,040 the rest of the season. And so she's in Eugene. 1038 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,840 We're seeing that from Instagram Stories. 1039 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,480 Kaylee's gonna race this weekend. 1040 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,520 And she's the second fastest woman in the world right now, 1041 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:24,800 15433 season's best. She's ironically .53 seconds 1042 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:30,720 away from the world lead, which is Audrey Hueros 153 eight and 1043 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,320 Audrey Hueros is .53 seconds away from the world record. 1044 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,760 So in a way, like that's something fun to to watch is 1045 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,760 just sort of like how can Keeley get the victory in this one? 1046 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,920 Would be great to just kind of like reinstall that confidence 1047 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,440 because London tends to be probably the science towards 1048 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,440 like if she's going to give this a full on all out effort, it 1049 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,680 will be the London Diamond League where the 60,000 fans 1050 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,680 will be, you know, hooting and hollering and cheering super 1051 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,000 loud for her. But she this isn't this isn't an 1052 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:11,720 easy field for her either. A a nice bourgeois I I'm never 1053 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,880 going to get this right. My I I took three years of 1054 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,120 French in high school totally out the window. 1055 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,920 But she ran 155 in Paris and she's going to probably look to 1056 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,080 prove that that wasn't just a one off or a fluke. 1057 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:32,480 Crudesseco Guiso 156 also so far the season San Ugiallo 156 as 1058 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,840 well. Lillian Odira, last time she 1059 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,160 faced Keely, she beat her. So now how does Keely respond to 1060 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,720 all of that? So strong field overall. 1061 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,400 Even Addie Wiley has a Diamond League victory so far this 1062 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,160 season. So we're just looking for Keely 1063 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,600 to get the confidence back, get the victory. 1064 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,840 And yeah, so it's like, not necessarily we're not knocking 1065 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,640 her just because she pulled out of one race. 1066 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,440 We're just looking hoping that things are are showing that 1067 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,640 she's still going in the right direction. 1068 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,960 So Pre, what's your hope for what you see out of Keely 1069 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,720 Hodgkinson in this one? I mean. 1070 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,200 If she's fully fit and and ready to go, I think she'll be looking 1071 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,040 to hit a 153 in this race because I think this is the 1072 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,360 thing, this is the trajectory. Like Audrey, where are we saw? 1073 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:26,040 Like she came out, she ran a 156, then she ran, you know, and 1074 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,040 she beat Leonidiro and, and, and, and Sigita Guma and then 1075 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,920 she, you know, and then she, she, she went on to start 1076 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,680 running 153. And I think this is Keely's, you 1077 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,400 know, she's behind in her trajectory. 1078 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,640 She's run, this is only a second outdoor race of the season. 1079 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,680 So and she, she opened out with a PB. 1080 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,840 So that was a really good start. And it is how is it building? 1081 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,200 Can she build towards that world record? 1082 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,960 And so I think she will most definitely be looking for a 153 1083 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:59,640 clocking if things are on track. And if we see that, then she is 1084 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,160 on track and, and you know, we could get something really good 1085 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,160 in London. I also kind of want to see what 1086 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,960 Sandy Jallo Lockhart can do. You know, obviously she would 1087 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,360 have peaked for NCAA's, but is this where she tops out or is 1088 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,760 that kind of where she's kind of, you know, that was the focus 1089 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,200 of her season And maybe she's she's not quite as strong now, 1090 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,240 but I'll be intrigued to see what she does in in this field 1091 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,240 of prose. And Luna Dira obviously is is 1092 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,160 the big one to kind of watch. Unfortunately, Siggy Deguma, who 1093 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,920 was in this race, has moved herself off to the mile. 1094 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,960 She's like I don't want the smoke and I'm no but I think she 1095 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,400 could bring. The smoke to the mile I think I 1096 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,920 like. She looked really obviously she 1097 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,720 ran 355 yeah, over 1500. So maybe she's realised that and 1098 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,200 had PBS only 156 for 800 and 156 six. 1099 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,200 She's not got a quick PB for someone who who is a, you know, 1100 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,520 he's an Olympic silver medallist and a world indoor champion. 1101 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,640 She does not have a fast PB over 800. 1102 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,000 But but yeah, maybe maybe she's realised that maybe the mile and 1103 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:07,080 the 15 or where it's at. But yeah, Keely 153 is what I'm 1104 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,680 looking for if things are on track. 1105 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,640 Otherwise, you know, consolidate with the win. 1106 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:17,080 You know, if if things haven't gone to plan, then yeah, just a 1107 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,520 win, Kyle the. Fact that. 1108 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,360 She is at this meet is an amazing sign. 1109 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,680 It's look Nike athletes have the contractual obligation to run 1110 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,880 pre. They understand that London is 1111 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:34,120 extremely important to her and had she needed to skip this 1112 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,920 meet, I promise you they would have given her the exemption. 1113 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,960 And so the fact that she has is healthy enough coming off of the 1114 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,800 British Amps. I'm not worried about health by 1115 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:48,200 any means, but there's one name on this list, on the start list 1116 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,720 that we haven't mentioned that really stands out, and that's 1117 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,920 Paris peoples. Who has a 120? 1118 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,720 3600 meter best wait, she is the rabbit. 1119 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,920 She is this. She must be the rabbit because 1120 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,760 she's running like two O 7 or something. 1121 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,520 So this is not this is set up. You're not bringing in just like 1122 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,280 any random 400m runner. You're bringing in someone who? 1123 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,600 Can actually. Get Keely exactly where she 1124 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,840 needs to be very far into the race and that's something that 1125 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,480 is needed. And honestly, I I'm just 1126 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,440 speaking out of my ass, but like I wouldn't be shocked if she 1127 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,160 does a good enough job that we see her in London. 1128 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:35,280 So it's a it's definitely I think being set up to actually 1129 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,640 go attack something here pre. I think you're right. 1130 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,880 I think like 153 is probably the goal. 1131 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,320 I don't think this is like the circle on the calendar to try to 1132 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:47,480 make the world record attempt, but I feel really confident and 1133 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,800 I bet she is hungry as hell right now. 1134 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,040 Between losing to Vero and then having to pull out the British 1135 01:06:54,040 --> 01:07:00,080 champs, I'm sure that there's a I'm I'm sure that she's probably 1136 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,480 not felt this way in a little bit. 1137 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:07,760 Kyle, we had Mack and Preet kind of go back and forth a little 1138 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,440 bit on just sort of like how the 800 meter world record could 1139 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,080 probably like what needs to happen in order for it to to 1140 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:18,720 fall in the type of race that where oh might need or Hot 1141 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,680 Achille might need to be executed. 1142 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,480 You've listened to I guess both of their sort of takes. 1143 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,760 Where do you fall on just sort of the the the right race 1144 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,800 execution for either one of those two? 1145 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,840 It's clear they both believe that when they go head to head, 1146 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,600 they'll probably try and get the best out of one another. 1147 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:42,320 But we've also just sort of seen when Audrey Weiro goes, she can 1148 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,360 do it also solo for the most part. 1149 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,040 Where do you land on it? And like they're they're 1150 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,160 distinct racing patterns. Yeah, I think. 1151 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,400 You're you're going to need a race to get it done. 1152 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,760 I'm not convinced either are fit enough just yet where it's just 1153 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,800 a matter of like adjusting a pattern. 1154 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:07,680 I think we can get there. I I think Keeley needs. 1155 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,480 A few more races I my assessment and like totally armchair 1156 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,080 quarterbacking it. Like coaches may listen to this 1157 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,359 and say I'm completely wrong. So I'm obviously not a practice. 1158 01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:22,120 But the the feeling that I get is that they know Keely's really 1159 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,520 strong, but in order to get down 153 low that she's got to be 1160 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,439 quick. And they've kind of been 1161 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,640 attacking that 400 in an effort to get her fast enough in order 1162 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,960 to be there. But you could also just race and 1163 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,560 sharpen up a few more under her belt. 1164 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,279 And I think she'll just be quick enough at that point rather than 1165 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,960 having to not necessarily like do this the speed work to get it 1166 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,720 done. So I think the fitness is 1167 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,560 coming, but no, I, I need a race out of the two of them. 1168 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,520 I think the way that it would happen is that a rabbit steps 1169 01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,279 off, someone makes a big move and the other one cleans it up 1170 01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:02,840 the last 70 meters and then Georgia. 1171 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,560 Hunterbell out kicks both of them. 1172 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:10,439 And then? A thing MO comes in and next day 1173 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,160 solo time trials and gets it done. 1174 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,399 It it is interesting because like for some coaches, right, 1175 01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:19,920 they would look at just sort of the approach taken by the M11 1176 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,279 group and they would think it's like, oh man, they're really 1177 01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:26,840 going heavy on the 400 training this this deep into the season 1178 01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:31,000 to get ready for that 800. But yeah, to your point, I guess 1179 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:35,359 that's probably what they've signalled, the training for the 1180 01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:39,880 400 and the 800 sometimes in some groups probably it doesn't 1181 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,800 like it wouldn't look like it makes sense to be doing both at 1182 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,520 at a high level at this point. But they've found a way to to 1183 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:48,800 make it work. It's not impossible. 1184 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,640 Look at who is it Brazier in 2022, although he did end up 1185 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,760 getting hurt but was focusing on the 400 and made a world indoor 1186 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,320 team there. So it's not uncommon, but it is. 1187 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,440 It is a tricky balance to sometimes try and strike and so 1188 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,240 is when's the Audrey Weiro 400? Is that supposed to be in a 1189 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,080 couple? Yeah. 1190 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,040 It's in a couple of hours though, so I was hoping we'd get 1191 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,240 live results while we're recording. 1192 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,280 But yeah, it's a little while ways away. 1193 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,760 I'm curious who that? Like is obviously Krechevalova 1194 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,360 has the 800 world record and is a 48 runner, right? 1195 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:29,200 But now when you add like who's got the best 408 hundred 1196 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,080 combined time? And I think #2 would probably be 1197 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,760 femka right now, right? #2 Yeah. 1198 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,960 Yeah. Temco be, we'll get there. 1199 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:45,440 I mean, The funny thing is. What I don't know, there's a. 1200 01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:48,400 Lot of seconds to be made-up in that 800, the difference of two 1201 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,240 seconds. 800. I'd have to crunch some numbers. 1202 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,640 Hey, OK, this is your. Chance Kyle, you missed the the 1203 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,040 podcast episode earlier this week. 1204 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,600 Pat yourself on the back for your your Femca take. 1205 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,880 I called. It 155 and I don't think we're 1206 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:08,760 stopping there. I I I have no doubt I think the 1207 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:13,400 thing that I've been most impressed with by her is just 1208 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:18,440 like her race execution and the way she and it's the years of 1209 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:20,920 running relays. She knows how to navigate a 1210 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,960 field and get around people at the right times and save 1211 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,480 something to actually beat people. 1212 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,560 And we've seen it that that ability spans events. 1213 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:35,080 Now, I said this in our in our chat, I'll say it again. 1214 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,160 I think the 2028, she has the world record. 1215 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,520 I think like Keely can run or whatever she wants or can run 1216 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,160 whatever she wants. Crash below. 1217 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,880 We run whenever she wants. Like I think Femka has the world 1218 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,440 record in two years. I like that. 1219 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,440 We'll clip that and hold on to it for for two years, all right. 1220 01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:55,480 Then after that we go men's 200, which we already kind of said is 1221 01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,480 lackluster for the rest of the depth behind Tobogo. 1222 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:02,520 Oh, Brian Lavalle, is that? Bronze medalist and if he's 1223 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,760 healthy like he did scratch a race or two earlier on, but if 1224 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,440 he's healthy then that would be interesting to see him go up 1225 01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:11,600 against Tobogo and take Taylor's in it as well, which is also an 1226 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,000 intriguing little side storyline because he's run 994 this 1227 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,160 season, in 1994. This season, yeah. 1228 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,480 So another. High schooler ran 19 six 1229 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:27,000 earlier. All right, then we go women's 1230 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,520 hundred. We already touched on women's 1231 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:34,800 mile after a little bit of being Mia for the last couple of 1232 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,000 weeks, Faith hip gay gone back in action. 1233 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,200 This is did they basically say like if you ran the Paris 1234 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,520 Diamond League in 2025 or when or 2024 when she broke the world 1235 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:49,800 record, you got an invite to this one. 1236 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,440 So many of the same names that you see in this one, Nikki 1237 01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:56,120 Hiltz, Jess Hall, Georgia Hunter Bell. 1238 01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,520 So we'll probably see a slew of national records fall because I 1239 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,000 presume that this will be paced for the world record. 1240 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,200 It's a good temperature check on where faith is at. 1241 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,600 You never kind of doubt that she'll show up in great form. 1242 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,240 But if there was a time to think is she vulnerable? 1243 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,920 This could be it. Pre it was pretty high on 1244 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,200 Georgia hunter bell stock after British champs. 1245 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,640 This could be the the if you remember I guess a couple years 1246 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,640 back when it was. Faith with. 1247 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,760 Jess Hole running on her heels. It's like this could finally be 1248 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,880 the that type of race for Georgia to latch on and stay 1249 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:40,080 super close. We've also got, you know, a 1250 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,240 target on the American record in this one. 1251 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:47,280 Nikki has said that they want to take it back, which is currently 1252 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:54,080 held by Sinclair Johnson for 16 I believe, and so Nikki's got a 1253 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,400 shot at it. But at the same time was it 1254 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,720 Emily Mackay has run faster on the year. 1255 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,600 I think Nikki's only got 115 hundred so far, but Emily Mackay 1256 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,800 has run 35812. Fastest woman in the 1500s. 1257 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:15,120 So far this year, 10 of the top 20 in the whole field has run 1258 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:20,720 359 .7 or faster in this one. So there's some really, really 1259 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,680 good depth in this one. But we'll just kind of see like, 1260 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:29,000 I guess what they decide the pace is going to be and how 1261 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,560 many. It's just line up behind Faith 1262 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:37,600 and get ready to run crazy fast. The dark horse could also be 1263 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,520 Claudia Kasmierska. Home track has been running 1264 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,400 super, super well so far this year. 1265 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,960 And then I mean, we're talking about all the people in this 1266 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,240 field. Burke Highland is actually the 1267 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,360 current world leader in the 1500, which is something that 1268 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,280 people I think might overlook because she ran 355.56 earlier 1269 01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:01,360 this year. So it's is it everyone picking 1270 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:08,440 faith in this one, Kyle? Yeah, I don't see why why we 1271 01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:10,240 would have any evidence to go against it. 1272 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,440 I will say I think Berke Highlands going to be set up for 1273 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:16,560 a really good 1:00 here. She might run a good. 1274 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,760 Off type of race. Well, I, you know what, she 1275 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,960 keeps taking the risk going for it and then, you know, kind of 1276 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,400 holding on at the end and getting it done. 1277 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,640 But now it's like. Follow Mama. 1278 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,640 Like faith will take you where you got to go. 1279 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,040 Don't do anything crazy, just stare face back for as long as 1280 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,120 possible. Hold on and run your 410 or 1281 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:44,440 whatever, like just ride the train. 1282 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,760 And so I do think that she is it's amazing. 1283 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,920 She is 20 years old. Like it's it's. 1284 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,640 She's been. So good for so long already. 1285 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,760 I mean her personal best of 4/17 was 3 years ago. 1286 01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:03,040 Like and it's time for. That to go, so I'm really 1287 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,360 excited to see what she can do when she is no longer the one 1288 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,080 who everyone is kind of deferring to, to see how quick 1289 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:14,520 they should go early Preet. Are you going to take Georgia 1290 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,440 Hunter Belt for the win I. If it's pays for the world 1291 01:16:18,440 --> 01:16:22,240 record, I do worry like for Georgia, she's an 815 runner. 1292 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,720 Like is even the extra 100 beaters might might kind of skew 1293 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,360 her chances, you know, skew it a little bit against her. 1294 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:34,600 But if you know, if it ends up being a 410 for like if it's a 1295 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,280 415 race, which I suspect it won't be with faith in it, but 1296 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,160 it was a 415 race, I think George Anderbelt could win it. 1297 01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,280 If it's a 412 race, I think it's a toss up. 1298 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,440 And if it's anything quicker than that, maybe, maybe she 1299 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:53,000 doesn't. But yeah, I'd, I'd, yeah, I'm 1300 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:57,560 intrigued to see what happens. I yeah, I think faith, Faith, 1301 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,520 interestingly, has also been announced in Monaco in the 3K 1302 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,120 next week, and there's not really anyone else in that 1303 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,280 field. So again, that makes me think 1304 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,600 maybe she's on World Record Week, kind of. 1305 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,840 Yeah, she want, I mean, she was so close to taking down that 1306 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:18,400 tainted Chinese 3K world record and so finally time to to wipe 1307 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,520 that one off the the record books. 1308 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,120 Can I interest? You in a 2 mile. 1309 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,800 Maybe she could, she could probably run, win, run the two 1310 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,680 mile world record and double back an hour later for this and 1311 01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,400 still win the race, right? Yeah. 1312 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,040 No, I firmly believe so. Faith at her best would would 1313 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,840 probably be able to do that. I think so. 1314 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,800 Yeah, what was I going to say? There was something else about 1315 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,880 the Was it the Chinese record I was going to make fun of? 1316 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:53,840 But no, never mind. Anyway, this should be a good 1317 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,840 one. I I honestly so on, on the 1318 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,400 American record side of things. Nikki. 1319 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:08,000 Opened up with a 359 maybe, probably like in the middle of a 1320 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,040 bigger training block. Good, good opener. 1321 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,720 But I think that's the one where Kasmerska may have beat them. 1322 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,600 But Oh no, that was I think an 800. 1323 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:28,040 You would think that falls Kyle. Yeah. 1324 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,320 Yeah, I don't know, just vibe check. 1325 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,080 It's such an interesting time of the season, like so many of 1326 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,400 these athletes are now. Like this is the peak for a lot 1327 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,200 of athletes in just July. Like people are going to just be 1328 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,840 going for it. But if you're like focused on 1329 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,440 Commonwealth at this point, you're in very fine form. 1330 01:18:50,440 --> 01:18:53,360 And so I just think you ride the train the American athletes. 1331 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:54,880 It's like this is our Commonwealth Games. 1332 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,800 This is our. Commonwealth Games. 1333 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:02,480 This is, yeah. 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You've got just a who's who of 1374 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:34,960 1500m mile royalty in this one, aside from Jacob Binga, Britson 1375 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:39,040 and Josh Kerr not in it this year, but and Whiteman. 1376 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,360 What? And Whiteman and. 1377 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,320 Whiteman. Yeah, yeah. 1378 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,520 And Isaac Nader. That's true, I guess. 1379 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,120 All right, so. There are a couple guys missing, 1380 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,240 but people who have been running really, really well so far this 1381 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:56,400 year are here and that includes you've got Kim Myers fresh off 1382 01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:04,720 of that 32800, you've got Neil Zaros fresh off of A143800 meter 1383 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,440 personal best yard, and a goose has won two diamond leagues so 1384 01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:11,240 far this season. Timothy Cheriot. 1385 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,440 Looking like the old Timothy Cheriot. 1386 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,680 He's back. Cole Hawker's a question mark, 1387 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,160 right? Because he hasn't necessarily 1388 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,320 opened up or done anything too crazy. 1389 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,000 Colin Solomon. NCA 800 meter champion Azidan 1390 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:35,240 halves at 329 are born Gary Gary Meyer Gary Martin's going to be 1391 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,800 in there in this holding on for dear life. 1392 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,080 So I guess we don't need to touch on every single person, 1393 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:48,760 but Kyle, I want you to give me the case for and against why 1394 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,800 certain people will win or not win the Bauerman Meyer. 1395 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:58,160 So we'll start with Cole Hawker, the 1500m Olympic champion. 1396 01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:02,880 What's the case for and against? When he is at. 1397 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,800 His best he always wins. Correct. 1398 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:11,160 That's my four against is. He was hurt for a little while 1399 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,800 and he just lost a 3K. Which doesn't normally. 1400 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,400 Happen, and so we might not be at his best yet. 1401 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,000 And also that's nothing to worry about because he's never really 1402 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,160 at his best at the pre. It's OK. 1403 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:31,760 It's OK. Yeah, I don't know. 1404 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,440 If it was after the indoor season, we couldn't have been 1405 01:23:36,440 --> 01:23:39,960 like much higher up. That was he was in such good 1406 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,960 shape like a few months ago. So it will come back very, very 1407 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:48,040 quickly. I just don't know if it's back 1408 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,440 yet. That's my case against Cole. 1409 01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:52,960 Hawker will win. A Baron Mile at some point in 1410 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,520 his career, but I don't necessarily know if this is 1411 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,960 going to be it. And his best finish is kind of 1412 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,320 just been always like, what, 345 like around there. 1413 01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,000 And then he'll do really welcome Championship season. 1414 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,760 So, Preet, what are you expecting out of Cole Hawker in 1415 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,840 this one? Yeah, I mean. 1416 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,440 He ran that mile indoors was at 3:45. 1417 01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:17,400 That was just really, really impressive. 1418 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,200 So I know he, I think there was some, he was, he had some sort 1419 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,600 of niggle or something. So I don't know how much that's 1420 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,840 affected him. But obviously if he's in good 1421 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:32,760 shape, then I can see a 344. But I, I'm not expecting a world 1422 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,120 record and I'm not expecting anything like that. 1423 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:40,520 I, yeah, I, I, I don't think he's, look, obviously if he was 1424 01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,200 in peak shape, he'd be like going, all right, I'm going to 1425 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,040 outdo Josh Kerr before Josh Kerr has his Mildwell record attempt. 1426 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,640 But I don't think that's on the cards here. 1427 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,800 But yeah, I think the win, that's that's what Karl Hawker 1428 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,240 likes to do. He likes to win. 1429 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,560 And he I mean, he did come out this season and say he wants to 1430 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,640 chase fast times on the circuit because if he's going to do it, 1431 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:07,960 this is the season to do it. And you know, I really hope he 1432 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:12,560 has had the training to kind of maybe do push it a little bit in 1433 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,480 this race. But yeah, as I say, that niggle 1434 01:25:15,480 --> 01:25:16,920 kind of worry does worry me a little bit. 1435 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,040 I need him to. Stay away from Robert Farkin in 1436 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,280 the last, like 100 meters. Oh, God. 1437 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:30,800 All right, Kyle, Case for and against Yard and a goose. 1438 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,760 We know yard can run extremely fast. 1439 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:44,280 That is my case for if there's a guy who can just maybe out 1440 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,360 muscle this field, it will be him. 1441 01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:49,040 And what's that mean? 800 One 51. 1442 01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,640 It's almost like. What is it from 800 to 1200 or 1443 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,600 like when the rabbit steps off, if he's if he's going to keep it 1444 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,440 rolling. But I mean, he what? 1445 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:05,360 He won Rabbot, he won Stockholm, he thought he won Oslo. 1446 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,720 That a pretty. Hot St. like after an we were 1447 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,800 all very worried at points during the indoor season and 1448 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:18,960 maybe at points last year, but seems like the goose is 1449 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,520 perfectly fine. I would say he's the favorite. 1450 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,800 Really. I would say who you can just say 1451 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,360 is the favorite. I was going to. 1452 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,360 Give it to Cam Myers. But the oh the. 1453 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,240 Guy Yard beat twice already in like the last month. 1454 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,360 That guy is the favorite. Why would Jared not be the 1455 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:36,840 favorite? He's well, I just. 1456 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,120 Thought Cam is is coming. Oh, he ran really fast. 1457 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,040 When Jared wasn't there, Jared is the favorite. 1458 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:50,120 He he if anyone else is the favorite besides Jared, it 1459 01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,960 should be Cheriot because Cheriot just beat him. 1460 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:57,560 But I think they at the same time, but I don't know, maybe 1461 01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,520 betting favorite. Because people really. 1462 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,120 Like Cam Myers, they might go Cam 'cause we recency bias of 1463 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:09,120 just seeing him run 328 flat. But I think the fair I don't I 1464 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,320 would give it to yard if this is on calci. 1465 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:15,080 You're putting money on on yard, Yeah. 1466 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,280 All right, so what's the? Case against Yard. 1467 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:26,600 Cam Myers. That's it. 1468 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,080 All right case. For and against, we'll get to 1469 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,960 camp a little bit. Niels Laros. 1470 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,720 Can I take this one? I look one 4300 speed, 1471 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,720 absolutely. Insane if. 1472 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,480 He is anywhere close to this field. 1473 01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,920 With 100 to go, it's over I think. 1474 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,360 Unless Cohok is in similar kind of kicking trait. 1475 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:55,040 But other than that, yeah, no one, no one, no one's out 1476 01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:59,680 kicking Niels Laros. So yeah, if he's there with 100 1477 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,600 to go, if the case against is if he hasn't got his winter 1478 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,520 endurance training in which we we don't know, then maybe he 1479 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,880 isn't in mild shape and he's only in 800 shape. 1480 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,960 That is the case against I think those. 1481 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,480 Are probably fairly comparable at this point just from what he 1482 01:28:17,480 --> 01:28:21,480 showcased, but I think also the case against what. 1483 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,560 Winter endurance training is a great term that I've never 1484 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,320 really used, but I'm gonna start using. 1485 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,640 I'm still thinking. About the the purple thing from 1486 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,400 last episode, what did he say about? 1487 01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,680 A squid earlier Preet. Surprises us every episode with 1488 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,440 a new like a dry. Squid or something? 1489 01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:45,520 What was it, Preet? Preet doesn't even remember he's 1490 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:46,640 making. He's making some. 1491 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,520 Of these up. And he's like, oh, I'm not 1492 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,480 making any of these up. OK, winter endurance training. 1493 01:28:51,480 --> 01:28:56,040 I'll give you that that that I made-up, but but I mean, I know 1494 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,840 patch I, I guarantee you I did not make up purple patch, purple 1495 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,600 patch sounds. Made-up, but I I told you like 1496 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,040 it's. It's actually a Latin poetry 1497 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,200 reference and apparently it got converted to British sports. 1498 01:29:07,480 --> 01:29:11,520 So a winning streak in British sport is a we. 1499 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,120 Your challenge is going to be to just, like, every episode from 1500 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,400 here on out, just, like, make a new one up and just, like, try 1501 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,840 and get it by us. Like, next week we're going to 1502 01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:27,760 learn about like, I don't know, like, you know, I guess like a 1503 01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,560 Baker's dozen. But he'll come up with something 1504 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,360 like the Queen's something. It's like putting too much. 1505 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,120 Milk in your tea, Chris. Like yeah, exactly it'll be. 1506 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,520 A saying just like that, that like he'll just make up and it's 1507 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:44,440 on us to try and catch it before we just like let it fly wrong. 1508 01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:46,640 That's not a thing. That's not a thing, but no one 1509 01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:50,920 says that. Anyway, I guess the the case 1510 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,720 against Neil Saros also is like, no one lets him do what he did 1511 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,840 to yard last time, right? Like we've seen the race play 1512 01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,440 out when you keep him within striking distance. 1513 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:05,600 And yeah, so I I think people learn from that one. 1514 01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,520 They won't overlook him. That was sort of just sort of I 1515 01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,080 think. Cam Meyer is having. 1516 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,280 His Niels Laros moment from last year, it's always just sort of 1517 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,160 this new young talent that everyone is kind of looking at. 1518 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,880 And so a lot of momentum and eyes just kind of veer to that 1519 01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:27,000 young rising 1500 meter talent. And for right now, it's similar 1520 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,680 to the same attitude we we have towards Cam is the attitude we 1521 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:35,280 had towards Neil's last year. So yeah, there's just sort of no 1522 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,400 more. He's not surprising anybody at 1523 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:42,440 this point. Case for and against Cam. 1524 01:30:42,440 --> 01:30:46,640 We'll go, Kyle. I mean, he's just. 1525 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,880 On a hot streak and he's running with a ton of confidence. 1526 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:52,240 And I know that I just highlighted the fact that he 1527 01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,840 lost in Oslo, but in Oslo he was way too deep. 1528 01:30:55,160 --> 01:31:00,240 I think he he was running, he was trying something different 1529 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:06,040 and I think because he got, you know, got in Stockholm, he 1530 01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,520 overcorrected a few days later. He shouldn't have. 1531 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,200 He's fine. He can run from the front. 1532 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:16,160 And I think if yard does make that really big move at some 1533 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,000 point after the rabbit steps off, I I see no reason why Cam 1534 01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,680 can't attach to him. He's definitely strong enough to 1535 01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,520 run. 344 if. That's what it's going to take, 1536 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,800 so. Yeah, case against. 1537 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:34,200 Preet you want to take this. Yeah, I mean, I just still am 1538 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,920 nervous about Cam's closing speed, right? 1539 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,400 Like he, we know he can take it out hard. 1540 01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:43,560 We now know he can run 328, which means, yeah, I agree, I 1541 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:48,840 think he can run 344. I just don't know if anyone is 1542 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,480 there with him. Like I think even Jared's shown 1543 01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:54,240 like signs of having his kind of kick back a little bit. 1544 01:31:54,480 --> 01:31:58,640 If Laros is there, if hawkers there, I just don't see. 1545 01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:03,160 I I just think that one or two of them will get him if he's out 1546 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:04,440 up front. I'm not. 1547 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,080 I'm not entirely. Like I haven't seen enough 1548 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,120 evidence of his kind of closing. You want a sub? 1549 01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:14,240 13 final hundred that somewhere you want you want you just want 1550 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,320 to see it one time. I don't know. 1551 01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,120 Yeah. Can I like? 1552 01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,680 How much of this narrative of Cam not having like an explosive 1553 01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,600 last 100 is just stemmed from him not really doing anything in 1554 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,080 championship races yet? Because like. 1555 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,480 He's just he does amazing on the circuit and he seems to have 1556 01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:37,520 like a fantastic last 200. He pulls away from people all 1557 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,680 the time, but he's never really had to have that like crazy last 1558 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:46,120 hundred in a semi final No, like that's what we haven't seen in 1559 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:47,800 his career yet. I think that's one of the 1560 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,800 reasons why we all wanted to do world indoors. 1561 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,720 But like he's run 144. Oh, he's fast. 1562 01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,760 I just worry he. Has the Yakubinga Britain 1563 01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,480 problem right? That is, that is what I worry 1564 01:32:57,480 --> 01:33:00,560 that he is a Yakubinga Britain type runner, that he has got a 1565 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,800 lot of strength. He can, he can wind it down. 1566 01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:09,240 He can close hard over a longer, like longer close over the last, 1567 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,560 you know, 400, last 200, he can squeeze it. 1568 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,000 But that last 100 or that last 50, can you squeeze it more than 1569 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,000 everyone else or can he like just completely kind of put the 1570 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,320 Rockets on? I that that's the thing that I 1571 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,320 think, yeah, he might. He hasn't really shown us yet. 1572 01:33:25,480 --> 01:33:28,160 And that's what I'd love to see, yeah. 1573 01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,440 So it's not that he there's not like a specific instance, it's 1574 01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:32,960 more that you just haven't seen it yet. 1575 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,640 Because he's way faster than Jakob. 1576 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:41,200 I think like in terms of raw speed, I. 1577 01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,040 Agree. Also, we need and I don't think 1578 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,920 he's. As strong as Jakob even like it? 1579 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,720 Well, yeah, I don't know. Have we seen it? 1580 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:55,600 17 or 717 out of Cam yet in a in a three Cam. 1581 01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,880 Obviously like. Adjusting a little for age, but 1582 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,680 yeah. We also see 7/27. 1583 01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,240 Was pretty impressive, to be fair, but yeah. 1584 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,480 Case for and. Against Gary Martin. 1585 01:34:13,480 --> 01:34:18,000 Go Kyle. He regularly texts me and asked 1586 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,200 me how my family is doing. I think that's really nice 1587 01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:21,520 thing. Love Gary. 1588 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,480 Against. I don't think he's on 344 yet, 1589 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,520 but Gary's the man rooting for him. 1590 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,480 I there's like a lot of matchups or there's a lot of people in 1591 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:37,320 here that I'm really excited to see how they do. 1592 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,960 Like, I can't wait to see how Colin Solomon does. 1593 01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,520 Like we've created this narrative where it's like, yeah, 1594 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,920 he's a great 800 runner. He's a great 3K runner, but he 1595 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,160 can't figure it out in between. It's like, I don't know, watch 1596 01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:52,680 him run like 346 here, you know, probably feel differently and. 1597 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,840 The other athlete that I'm. I'm just keeping an eye on is 1598 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,280 Hobbes like. Like we know. 1599 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,640 Wait, messaging there. Hobbes or Hobbes Kessler. 1600 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,680 I was going to go with Hobbes Kessler on this one. 1601 01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:16,160 It just, I, I think he it's, it's there, it's right there and 1602 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:20,200 it's coming back quickly and I hope it shows up this weekend. 1603 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:25,720 So just a really intrigued to see how he does, yeah. 1604 01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:31,080 What is the NCA mile record? Right, Because that's got to be 1605 01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:35,400 on the table for Colin Solomon. I figured. 1606 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,000 You are out of season aren't. You so I don't think you get it 1607 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:39,720 even if you want it. Yeah, there's there's. 1608 01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,560 Those lists, There's some lists that will count it if it 1609 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,200 happens, so no idea, I think it's stupid. 1610 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,360 I'm just gonna keep keep keep, Yeah, restart my rant about how 1611 01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:51,840 the NC double records are all stupid. 1612 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,800 Ethan Strand. 348 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1613 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,200 That'll go, but. That was indoors, pretty sure. 1614 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,280 So. All right. 1615 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,960 Well, well. Prediction Bauerman Mile. 1616 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:13,080 Who you taking, Kyle? Yard pretty favorite. 1617 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:21,320 I'm going to stick with Laros. I'm going to go with go Cam 1618 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,840 Myers. So those. 1619 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,400 Are our. Predictions for the Bowerman 1620 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,040 Mile. We'll see. 1621 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:32,360 How it all unfolds This weekend's meet, you'll be able 1622 01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,400 to watch it on TV and on Peacock. 1623 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:40,680 For those who have missed the ability to do so, it'll be 1624 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:47,000 streaming on Peacock and live on NBC, I'm pretty sure, so keep an 1625 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,800 eye out for all of that. Again, I think the action starts 1626 01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:58,480 at and the broadcast window is at 1:30 PM Eastern Time or no 1627 01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:04,000 one 12:30 Pacific Time. So it'd be 3:30 Eastern Time, so 1628 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:06,920 should be a good time. Where can we watch? 1629 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,800 Friday night. Is that joy moenusatf.tv or is 1630 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:10,880 that somewhere else? Do we know? 1631 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:16,360 I don't even know. And it's literally on Yubilee 1632 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,280 and just before. We close, I think the field 1633 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,880 events, there are some really good field events in this meet 1634 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,320 and you know, just keep an eye on. 1635 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,880 That's why they'll listen to. The Polythro show and be able to 1636 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:34,680 listen to Paul breakdown all of the the field event previews. 1637 01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,840 And we also, I guess, like there's going to be athletes I 1638 01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,200 think, that are going to be interviewed by Paul on site. 1639 01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,160 But yeah, discus, men's discus is crazy. 1640 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,360 Yeah, there's, there's a lot of really good, really good field 1641 01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,440 events and the the long jump, the women's long jump is very, 1642 01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:56,760 very good as well with the Tara Davis Woodall coming off her 720 1643 01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,400 PB and taking on all the best women in the world so and also. 1644 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,600 Yeah. Oh alright, so we got real quick 1645 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,120 text from. Mac 'cause we wanted his. 1646 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:08,680 Opinion, Kyle said who is the favorite in the Bowerman Mile 1647 01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:12,240 and Max said who's my pick or who is the favorite? 1648 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:16,200 Kyle said the favorite and Max says Myers. 1649 01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:22,320 I think Niels will win though. Oh wow, those are Max Max. 1650 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:27,520 Not that Max, not that smart. All right, that does it for our 1651 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,720 Pre Classic preview here on the podcast. 1652 01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:33,760 We will have more all throughout the weekend because we'll be 1653 01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:37,080 flipping the live shows that we do into podcast forums. 1654 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,400 You'll be able to take those on the go with you and listen to 1655 01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,840 them on your Saturday morning run and Sunday morning run. 1656 01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,280 So stay tuned for that. And then Preet and I will be 1657 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,640 back next week on Monday for this week in track and field. 1658 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,360 So lots to come. Be sure to follow along with all 1659 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,720 of the Cityosmatic social channels and we will catch you 1660 01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,840 guys next time. All right, that's a wrap on. 1661 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,600 Today's episode, thanks for listening, for the time, the 1662 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,840 curiosity, and for making this show part of your routine or 1663 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,160 your run. A big thanks to our producer 1664 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,040 Jasmine Fair, and to everyone behind the scenes who helps make 1665 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,200 the Sidious Mag podcast happen. 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So when we look. 1674 01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:43,640 At the roster of athletes who have come through the 1675 01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:47,120 unsponsored project in certain cases. 1676 01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,480 Athletes graduate and then they go on and get professional. 1677 01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:55,240 Contracts. For from major sportswear and 1678 01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,720 footwear companies. What is that process? 1679 01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,080 Been like over the last couple years, yeah, it's been. 1680 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,160 Really, really cool to see. It's part of what we talk about 1681 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,440 as success of the Unsponsored Project. 1682 01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:08,120 We want to get to the point where Bandit will have athletes 1683 01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,400 in the future, but right now the Unsponsored Project is our 1684 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:15,200 primary athlete support mechanism and we want people to 1685 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,560 be able to go and get those full time long term sponsorship 1686 01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,240 deals. So at this point, over the three 1687 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:24,120 years, we've had 11 total people of the roughly 100 that we've 1688 01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,840 supported as part of the unsponsored project go and get 1689 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,320 signed by a variety of different brands. 1690 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,160 And it's different every single time. 1691 01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,240 I often times like to go back to Trevor Bassett, who made the 1692 01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:38,040 Olympics in 2024, was an unsponsored project athlete when 1693 01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,800 competing in Eugene. And then the next year, we 1694 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,600 actually were supporting Trevor on an extended unsponsored 1695 01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:48,200 project style support contract. And he gave me a call in March 1696 01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:49,840 or April. I can't remember exactly what 1697 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:53,360 month it was, but he's like, hey, Adidas is offering me a 1698 01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:54,600 deal. I'm like, hell yeah, dude, 1699 01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,000 that's super, super awesome. That's exactly what we want. 1700 01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,960 And now he's still competing under the Adidas umbrella. 1701 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:02,640 And it, it's really, really amazing to see. 1702 01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:04,320 We'll have. More on. 1703 01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,200 Bandits Unsponsored project in the coming weeks on the CD Smack 1704 01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,400 podcast and in the Lab Count newsletter.