1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,080 All right, welcome to day four of the 2026 USATF Outdoor Track 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,040 and Field Championships. I'm Chris Chavez with Kyle 3 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:12,880 Merber, and we're live from the CITIUS Mag after party taking 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,800 place right now in Astoria, Queens after a great day at the 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,920 track. OK. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,440 This just built and built and built and built and built and 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,880 today was great. It was non-stop finals. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,680 Yeah, we bought a big bunch of tickets for Section 2O5, and 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,840 over the last couple days it was just sort of like, all right, we 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,920 give you your ticket, we give you your shirt. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,680 Contract. We made people sign social 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,560 contracts that they had to wear the shirt. 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,880 Great shirt and then from there over the last couple days, it 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,080 was easy to move around like you want to sit with your friends, 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,360 you want to move into the shade a. 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,600 Little bit. Today you couldn't do that. 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,240 By the time the broadcast window started, we were pretty 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,280 deadlocked in your seats. And like you, your wife came, 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,120 the kids came, your friends and their kids came and everyone was 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,360 like, so when we talk about just sort of those photos over the 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,160 last couple days of some empty seats, there were no empty seats 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,680 today. There were actually people 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,640 sitting on top of other people today in the seats. 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,720 Look, did my kids receive a few NIL offers today based off of 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,120 the amount that they were running around in the stands? 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Did they? No, but they should have. 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Yeah. Really fun to me. 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,240 In my mind, I was like, of course I should bring the kids 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,200 done Sunday because it's non-stop action. 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,520 They'll love it. And it turns out kids can't 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,080 really appreciate the difference between prelims and finals. 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,280 They're more about like, is there a cotton candy? 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,600 Yeah. And there wasn't, which was a 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,200 problem. OK. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,280 Yeah, that's a whole other thing. 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,120 It's like the the concession stand and. 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,320 Not stands. One stand yeah, there was only 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,920 one so New York has a couple little kinks to work out if you. 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 We want these championships to return, but overall. 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,680 We can find a halal guy. Multiple. 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,960 In the hot dog stand who who would cart the cart upstairs and 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,480 plop it down and be very. Content, yeah, but alas, we were 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,960 not part of the organizing committee this time around. 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,840 Maybe we get a a couple questions next time, but 45 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,280 overall, the vibes today, no appearance by the mayor, no 46 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,080 appearance by Jaylen Brunson, starting to question how much of 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:37,400 a real track fan he is. But overall a fantastic day. 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,000 So let's get into breaking down all the action that took place 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,920 and I want to start with the race that I was most excited by 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,760 yesterday. When we did the pod, I said I 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,960 was looking out for the women's 5K because we had a highly 52 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,600 anticipated showdown between Parker Balbee, the six time NCAA 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,760 champion team, New Balance and Shelby Houlihan. 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,000 I don't think those two had ever raced head to head. 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,600 You forgot somebody. Yeah, I did, because I was kind 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,960 of fresh off thinking that Emily Mackay was only going to do the 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,640 15 and that the 5K would just be an insurance policy, especially 58 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:17,560 with the 15. I mean, she dove at the finish 59 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,360 line to try and get the victory. You know, you can wake up, feel 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,200 a little sore, a couple scrapes, a couple bumps and decide not to 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,000 run. But no, I mean, major kudos to 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Emily because not only did she show up, she won the whole damn 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,000 thing. And what we saw, I guess 64 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,600 throughout was a little bit of what we thought was going to 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,200 happen is that Parker had to hit the front, try and make this 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,480 thing a little bit quick so that you couldn't just leave this to 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,360 be a kicker's race. So early on, just rattling off 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,160 70 twos, 70 threes, 70 twos, 70 threes. 69 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,360 But we looked at each other in the stands and we were just 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,520 like, that's not enough to shake off Shelby or Emily. 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Margo Appleton was in there. Sydney Vaught, who took the day 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,840 off yesterday and came back after winning the 10K, like she 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,520 was also in the mix there for a bit. 74 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,360 So this ended up being a, you know, sub 15 minute race up in 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,000 the front end of it. But it just sort of like Parker 76 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,440 did so much work at the front of the race and it and and Shelby 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Houlihan and Emily Mackay just let her did not help out with 78 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,440 the lead at all. And so once they decided to make 79 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,720 their move with about what it was like 500 to go, we knew 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,080 that, OK, this is going to come down to who has the best final 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,240 400. And on the day, it's Emily 82 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,720 Mackay, who is, you know, one of the best American milers right 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,680 now. I think when they hit 2K in six 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,400 flat, you turned to me and said how fast is that? 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Which is arguably some of the easiest math. 86 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Yeah, well, you know, I'm not good. 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,240 I'm not good. Yeah, we could have. 88 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,600 You could have. It wasn't a complicated. 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,640 I'm not good at that. I'm not a splits guy. 90 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:04,080 So I was like, that's 15 flat, not fast enough. 91 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,040 No, not. Fast and as it went on, I I had 92 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,280 two epiphany. I was, I I said what does Parker 93 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:17,080 think is going to happen? And then I went wait a second, 94 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,160 She could have won the 10K so easily. 95 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:21,560 Oh, 100. Percent, this move would have 96 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,400 worked like a charm in a 10K, but in a 5K, it just wasn't 97 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,920 fast. And it was, it was the middle of 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,840 the day, but it wasn't that hot. I mean, she's running hotter 99 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,920 conditions as we've seen at global championships before. 100 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,520 And she doesn't bother Parker. She's obviously spent plenty of 101 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,720 time in Florida and it just wasn't fast enough to drop the 102 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,280 field. But you know what, glass half 103 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:51,720 full type of guy? We got a full outdoor season. 104 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,520 We do. I think the next move from here 105 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,880 is you probably see Parker entered in like the Celestia 5K 106 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,560 and what we said at the beginning of like after her runs 107 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,200 in LA is that we want to see what she can do now in a fast 108 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,080 race against some of the best in the world. 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,960 And that's the type of 1 where you're doing less thinking than 110 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,920 you did today. You just slot in line up, you 111 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,480 know, behind the likes of a Faith Kapiagon or Nadia 112 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,200 Bataclidi and you can just see how fast you go. 113 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,960 And so I'm still optimistic at the at thinking that Parker's 114 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,160 got sub 1430 potential this season. 115 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,040 It just has to be in the right race. 116 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,080 But today it's a lesson as well of like, all right, I know that 117 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,440 come 2028 trials, if these athletes are still also my 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,080 competitors and you throw in other people who weren't here 119 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,080 today, the likes of Elise Cranny, A Curitius Weiser. 120 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,360 I can't get away with doing all the work in the front. 121 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,360 Also have to develop a kick. Yeah, no, it's true. 122 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,480 So I mean, at some point then with a lap to go, it was clearly 123 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,760 an Emily versus Shelby. Shelby was the first one to try 124 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,560 to make a move. And you kind of like go back six 125 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,360 years and it's like, oh, Shelby has this crazy last 100. 126 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Right. Like muscle memory, we're going 127 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,400 to see her pull that. But the truth is, is that Shelby 128 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,040 is more of a 5K10K girl now than ever before. 129 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,760 Emily's the one who's the true middle distance runner right 130 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,120 now. And we really saw it at the end. 131 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 I mean, when Emily decided to make the move, it was so 132 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,800 definitive and obvious. And even though Shelby looked 133 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:38,280 very comfortable, Emily's last 200 was 29, and she's the one 134 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,920 who's breaking 2 on The Reg. Yeah, Yeah. 135 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,840 These days. And so honestly, it was a pretty 136 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,360 easy victory for Emily. I'm sure she's not two guests 137 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,640 after that one and but it also feels great because I'm sure she 138 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,800 was super disappointed after the 1500s, so. 139 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,840 That's probably the toughest part is just sort of like 140 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,920 emotionally getting yourself back up for the to get on this 141 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,920 start line and channel all of that redemption energy. 142 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,480 Although like yesterday I think on her cooldown and stuff, I saw 143 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,680 some smiles. I got to meet her grandma after 144 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,120 the race. She said some really nice things 145 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,320 about Sidious, about me. If someone says something nice 146 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,840 about Sidious, that's kind of like saying something nice 147 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,640 about. You I take saying something nice 148 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,080 about CITIUS as to saying something nice about our team. 149 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,560 I say when someone says something nice about me, I think 150 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,200 that's something saying something nice about City. 151 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,840 So it's not just, it's not about me. 152 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Yeah, they're like, oh, you have really good photographers. 153 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,559 That's what I'm thinking. I'm like, oh, you guys are doing 154 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,559 a good job of getting the stuff up on Instagram. 155 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,880 That's how I follow along and all that stuff. 156 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,440 That's how I take. It impeccable leader. 157 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,320 It's not about me unless they say like, oh, I listen to the 158 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,440 podcast and you know, I like the British guy better. 159 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Most people do. 160 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,120 All right, so that was the women's 5. 161 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,080 K as a segue, yeah, if I would have told you at the start of 162 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,400 this weekend, hey, I feel like the 1500 guys or the 1500 163 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,880 runners are really poised to do well in these five KS, you 164 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,720 probably would have been like, yeah, that makes sense. 165 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Well, yes, but also be like, well, what happened to Grant 166 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,720 Fisher and what happened to Woody Kincaid? 167 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:17,440 So both those guys chose not to double back from the 10K. 168 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,280 No, I don't think either of them has cited any sort of injury or 169 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,760 anything crazy. So I mean, it's just tough on 170 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,800 your body after running a 10 Ki. Give Grant full credit for 171 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,720 showing up. A lot of people didn't show up. 172 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,000 US as Grant showed up. One of the biggest stars 173 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,440 obviously wishes that he could have done a couple things 174 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,240 differently or things would have felt better, but I don't blame 175 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,040 him at all. After the 10K, I'm sure he was 176 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:47,320 like, yeah, body's not 100% this weekend, get back to work, get 177 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,160 back in there. Bigger fish to fry, but that 178 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,240 really opened up today. Yeah, it did. 179 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,040 And so when you look at the results, you're probably like 180 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,960 scratching your head and be like, this is a strange 5K race, 181 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,680 but Vinciotti, Cooper Tier, Sam Pracle, Tom Ratcliffe, who 182 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:10,400 probably of that bunch is the most 5K guy of of, of the group. 183 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,880 Sam Pracle. No, no, no, no. 184 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,280 Tom Ratcliff. Oh, Tom Ratcliff. 185 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Cooper Teare has been 186 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,360 running more 5 KS over the last couple of years, but he is AUS 187 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,280 1500 champ from 20. 22 was the one who took it early and I kind 188 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,520 of liked it. Look like no one, especially a 189 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,680 guy like Cooper who has run 350 in the mile, right. 190 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:35,920 He hasn't gotten under 350. Yeah, you just, you want it 191 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,680 honest enough, but you don't need to do anything crazy. 192 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,800 And I appreciated that they're honest enough was coming 193 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,000 through, you know, the 1st 800 and 2:10. 194 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Yeah. They were they, they weren't 195 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,240 jogging. It was something it's enough to 196 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,320 run the legs out of people littles, but you're not dropping 197 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,680 anyone off of that. But I, I did appreciate it. 198 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:02,400 I think that's I, I think the, the, the TV people probably 199 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,160 appreciated that too. I think, I think you look at the 200 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,760 top three in this one and you're like, all right, I would have 201 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,680 been happy with, I mean, even top four with like the storyline 202 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:16,000 of them winning this race for Vince, it's like he's always 203 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,480 been in the mix, so close. Now he finally gets to call 204 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,880 himself a national champion on the track 'cause he's got like, 205 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,240 I think Rd. mile titles. Cooper, it's coming back after, 206 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,440 you know, several races that maybe weren't what you would 207 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,640 hope for out of him. And then Sam Prekel, it's 208 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,240 another sort of like, oh, would have been like, he's another guy 209 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,080 who's always been so close and he missed the 1500m finals. 210 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,960 So like, had he won, it's a very it would have been poetic had it 211 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,560 been like Emily Mackay winning after finishing third and Sam 212 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:51,040 Prakel winning after, you know, not making the final. 213 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,120 But this is a good, good enough redemption performance. 214 00:11:54,120 --> 00:12:00,120 And so, yeah, it's it's, it's interesting to think like what 215 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,560 type? Like do you get this kind of 216 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:05,000 race in Eugene? I don't, I think. 217 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,200 In an off year, maybe you might still get it. 218 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,520 I mean, when you go through, that's not like there's anyone 219 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,960 in this race who's going to push it. 220 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,320 And it's actually like a pretty sizable gap, like guys died. 221 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Yeah, which happens all the time when you shift gears. 222 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,560 The poop smell hit them. You got hit with the poop. 223 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,880 The the poop jumped on their back there it. 224 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,920 It hit me at toward the end of the meet. 225 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,320 For sure. You know, Vince dabbled in the 226 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,240 5K for the first real time earlier this season. 227 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,280 He ran 1313 and if I remember correctly, he got out kicked by 228 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,560 a few guys in a really close race. 229 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,280 But it was like a nice little experiment. 230 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:48,440 And I, I think that for him, I have this idea that maybe it's 231 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,880 time to move up. But obviously the 5K worked 232 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,600 really well for him in this situation. 233 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,360 Any but maybe there's a future there. 234 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:04,400 And you know, he's 31. He's probably got a good 235 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,000 lifetime of mileage under him. We turn that 1313 into, you 236 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,640 know, we, we had another 10 to 3 miles a week. 237 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,880 I don't know, we got something here. 238 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,520 You know, that the Olympic trials probably is going to be a 239 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,880 1245 race. So I think he's got good 240 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,960 potential here. I liked it. 241 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,800 I liked a lot and also just like the fact that he just closed 242 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,240 really hard. 2671 final lap. But like looking at the splits 243 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:38,880 605854, his last 1200 was 253. And I said in the preview 244 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,680 podcast sub four last mile, not the boldest tank in the entire 245 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:46,720 world, but I said it. You didn't say it. 246 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,040 They did it. They did. 247 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,320 It but 253 is a great close on the 1200 and it signals some 248 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,760 potential and you know, stronger international field. 249 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,400 So really liked it. It's always nice to be the 250 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,200 fastest guy. It's not like Vince has like 251 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,960 some crazy 800 PB. He's running 146 high. 252 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,880 That's not fast anymore. It's not good enough. 253 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,160 And he's bro, look, he's five years old. 254 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Yeah, yeah, I think he can go faster now. 255 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,760 Yeah, yeah. Especially based off of what 256 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,520 he's on the 1500, but he's not naturally like some. 257 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,520 He wasn't getting picked in a 4 by 4 Virginia Tech back in the 258 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,880 day. And so, you know, to be the 259 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,440 fastest guy in a 5K is a nice thing. 260 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,720 So I like it. All right, let's move on over to 261 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,280 the two hundreds. We'll start with the men. 262 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,080 Garrett Kaalund ends up being the winner here in 20 O 4. 263 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,480 Cal, she could have picked up so much money today had they just 264 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,840 split the switch and said given that operate although they do is 265 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,560 no one miles versus the field. Oh yeah, That would have been 266 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,400 the odds, yeah. And we were saying all week, 267 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,720 what's Noah going to do? That's going to be dramatic in 268 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,240 this race. And what we The answer to that 269 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:03,680 question is run 50.88. Why did he finish? 270 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,480 The trivia question he last year was or yesterday was what's the 271 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,200 slowest outdoor 200 that Noah has run? 272 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,600 He goes and it was up until that point and he's like, you know 273 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,360 what, I'm going to make that answer easy for me next time 274 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,400 someone asks me that question. And I'm just going to think 2026 275 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,280 USA outdoors when I ran 5088. So if you're out there 276 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,240 somewhere, go to your local track and I think you'll be able 277 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,160 to run a 5088. New end of summer. 278 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,360 No. Allows challenge run. 279 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,480 Run 5088 or faster for 200 meters. 280 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,120 There you go. But no, no. 281 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,600 All right. So in all seriousness, Noah 282 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,640 played it smart. He he just had a cramp. 283 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,320 That's what he had. He came through the mix zone 284 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,240 afterwards and told people it's like, listen, I'm not gonna do 285 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,080 anything dumb here. He had zero concern, zero 286 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,120 concern. He wouldn't. 287 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,400 He wouldn't. By the end of the 50 seconds, he 288 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,480 wasn't. Concerned he was clapping like 289 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,840 as he was walking it in he and afterwards in the mix zone, he 290 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,000 said. There's no reason I'm pushing 291 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,800 that so I just decided to cut it off. 292 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,520 It's just a cramp. And yeah, also he was just great 293 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,080 with Garrett afterwards. He was super pumped for him. 294 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,400 Obviously Garrett coming out and running, winning a national 295 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,600 title, probably didn't wake up this morning thinking he's going 296 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,240 to win a national. Title this is like his third or 297 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,520 fourth race of the outdoor season. 298 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Like he he you know, has played it pretty quiet and so but he's 299 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,720 a talent. I think like definitely remember 300 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:46,200 his name coming up because those spots behind Noah in the 200 for 301 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,040 2028 could be pretty wide open. You obviously have Kenny, 302 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,800 Courtney, Lindsay, but then from there, like, you know, we 303 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,880 thought that the likes of an Aryan Knighton was going to hold 304 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,000 on to one of those spots for years to come, but that's not 305 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,280 the case. So yeah, he could be a 306 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,319 contender. So if you do the Know Lyles 307 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:09,960 challenge on, just tag us on your Instagram stories and we'll 308 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:17,280 be sure to repost it sub 50.88. I think Garrett one of the best 309 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,839 post race interviews in stadium today. 310 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:22,040 Yeah, what did exactly did you say? 311 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,240 They was it Don on the mic who asked like, what should the 312 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,800 crowd know about Derek? And he said, well, I have one 313 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,320 cat right now and soon I'm going to have a second. 314 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:36,120 And the crowd went nuts. It was like he mentioned how 315 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,800 good New York City pizza is. Yeah. 316 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,440 So it's right up there, I think with like some good crowd work. 317 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,480 But I'd say the shame in all of this. 318 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:50,880 Is that we had. Plus 1.5 win and based off the 319 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,280 women's race, there was an opportunity to really run fast 320 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,280 here. And Noah's first hundred was 321 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,680 good. He was, yeah, yeah, he was. 322 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,640 And he got out-of-the-box well. And so the shame of it all is we 323 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,480 don't know what he would have run had he been healthy. 324 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,320 But if I had to choose between seeing like a 19419 five today 325 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,800 or seeing Noah the rest of the season, I'm taking nowhere the 326 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,320 rest of the season. He's got an after. 327 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,560 Party. He's got an after party. 328 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,960 Are we invited? No. 329 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,720 Not yet. It's athletes only. 330 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,040 I think or actually don't do the no Lyles challenge because we 331 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,880 won't get invited to the after party. 332 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,080 Why it's athletes only? Is it athletes only athletes? 333 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,800 Only why was there an? Athlete. 334 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,200 Really, it's athletes. Only it's athletes, only they 335 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,760 just wanted us to know we're not invited. 336 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,920 But we are athletes. If you have a body, you're an 337 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,760 athlete. If you have a World Athletics 338 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,920 page, you should be. I don't have I I can pass as the 339 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,080 other Chris Chavez to get into the party. 340 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,520 All right, Well, I guess it's a good thing that you didn't get 341 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,040 hurt because. He's got he's. 342 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,320 Got that would have been a brutal trip like if he was hurt 343 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,960 and then only gets to go to Budapest to to to to throw a 344 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,560 party. So all right, well, safe 345 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,480 healings to Noah Lyles. All right, women's 200, which 346 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:21,000 you did talk about one one point O wind and Mosa Jefferson Wooden 347 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,680 had heavy favorite in this race. Absolutely delivered 2169 348 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,200 season's best. Obviously, we all know what you 349 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,000 know, the likes of Julian Alfred, Gabby Thomas and a Deja 350 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,800 Hodge has run. And so we know Melissa Jefferson 351 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,000 Wooden is fully capable of being in that mix. 352 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,320 And so she's one of the big six right now. 353 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,800 You throw in Sharika Jackson in there as well. 354 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:45,400 She's like, all right. I'm just reminding you folks. 355 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,360 I'm the world champ. The Women's 200 on an 356 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:56,080 international level might be the most exciting event out there in 357 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,080 track and field right now. Yes. 358 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,560 'Cause there are legitimately 5 or six women who have a shot. 359 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,880 Yeah. I, I, I'm, I think I'm pegging 360 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,160 it at Big Six right now. Yeah. 361 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:12,120 Yeah, in the the Perennial Men's 1500, there are not that many 362 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:18,280 people who have a shot. Thinking 202024 Olympic final. 363 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,600 Saying like going 2024, that was the number one event in track 364 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,960 and field. Yes, right now in 2020. 6 But 365 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,240 there's more contenders in this race than there. 366 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,960 Were contenders and more contenders who are competing at 367 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,360 a top ten all time level. That's the number one event in 368 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,280 track and field right now and I think Melissa reasserted herself 369 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:43,200 as the world champion. It's a reminder she won by over 370 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,760 a half second here. It's it's crazy because Cambrea 371 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,440 Sturgis is good. Cambrea Sturgis might make the 372 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,920 final at. Ultimate chance, yeah, yeah. 373 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,280 And she was second in 2022, so. What are we going to call? 374 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,080 We need to come up with like something. 375 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,240 Is it just? Ultimates at Ultimates. 376 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Yeah, yeah. We're good with. 377 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Ultimates. Yeah, yeah. 378 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Saying like World ultimate, World Athletics, Ultimate 379 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Championships too much. Comments section on Spotify 380 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,880 please sound off like so. We call it world's Olympics 381 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,640 Ultimates. I think ultimates. 382 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:20,960 Ultimates and then if Jesse Gabriel listens to his podcasts 383 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,960 and approves because she's head of comms, right? 384 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,800 I don't know the official title. Head honcho at world ultimate 385 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,520 champs. It's like Sebs, Seb, then Jesse, 386 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,160 Gabriel. This feels like something that 387 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,360 the people decide what to call it as a nickname. 388 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,960 We're calling it Ultimates. Ultimates. 389 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,000 I've qualified for ultimates. I'm on pace to qualify for 390 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,080 ultimates. As one of the biggest podcasters 391 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,840 in Brooklyn. We're calling it Ultimates. 392 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,640 Yeah. All right. 393 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,840 So yeah, Cambrea Sturgis may be in the final at Ultimates. 394 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,240 And yet Melissa dominated. Dominated. 395 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,400 Yeah. I didn't. 396 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,360 I like loved all of the videos and content around Melissa and 397 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,240 Mamdani. I liked it too. 398 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,240 I was talking about this on my run with Mac. 399 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,920 I was like. I did find it funny though that 400 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,520 she doesn't have any New York connections though. 401 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,840 I my favorite joke is when people be like, that's my mayor 402 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,440 parentheses. I'm from Blake. 403 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Yeah, yeah. That's what Loggy Loggy posted 404 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,000 on her Instagram story being like, damn, can't believe I 405 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,960 didn't go to the track today and meet my mayor. 406 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:28,320 I'm from San Diego. That's my name. 407 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,000 So he's America's mayor now? I mean, like America's mayor was 408 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,640 the title they had for Rudy Giuliani post 911. 409 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,480 But like, like, F Giuliani at this point. 410 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,760 All right, we got political on the pod. 411 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,680 Mamdani's America's Mayor. Based off of not to get 412 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,960 political, Mac has has gave me about like 4 hours worth of 413 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,480 content about San Diego's mayor. Yeah, yeah. 414 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,680 So it sounds like. Everyone else, everyone in San. 415 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Diego is just looking for a mayor. 416 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,280 I want, I want to know people in the comments section let us know 417 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,160 who are the other beloved mayors in America because I know that 418 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,080 everyone loves Mumdani right now. 419 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,160 Some small town that like voted a dogging there. 420 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:11,880 Is yeah, there is that. There's that someone. 421 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,840 But also a very popular mayor. For now. 422 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,640 For now. For now, till he'd bite someone. 423 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,200 Yeah. All right. 424 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,000 Next event, Chris. Men's 100 meter hurdles, which 425 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,800 is the final event of the day. 100 and. 10 we have 110 hurdles. 426 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,640 The semi finals were actually we do have to shout out what what 427 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,720 one of the bigger stories of the semi finals, Freddie 428 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Crittenden's last race. Yeah, we love Freddie. 429 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,800 Love Freddie? I saw him outside the stadium, 430 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,360 dapped him up and you know, we're ready to begin his career 431 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:46,920 with Sidious whenever he's ready to join us. 432 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,200 But the thing that the that all stood out to me was like, I 433 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,880 mean, I don't know if he's banged up and hurt, but he was 434 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:03,240 last in his in his semi final, but also spin zone taking as 435 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,200 much time to appreciate this the crowd and the fans and his final 436 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,440 race. Son, good spin zone. 437 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,800 All right into the final. Freddie, just in general. 438 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,320 Freddie had a great reception. He did today in the crowd. 439 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,600 Got emotional speaking to the crowd. 440 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,400 We love to see people appreciate it. 441 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,680 It was great. All right, into the final. 442 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,040 I thought it. I mean it through what, 6 or 7 443 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,240 hurdles? Like it was dead even Like could 444 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,000 have been any of these kinds. Of point, it was Bradley 445 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,080 Franklin. OK. 446 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,840 Yeah, yeah. All right, so Bradley, Franklin, 447 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:44,240 Sanford guy, 19 years old, sophomore, you have to think I, 448 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,640 I think he was fifth at NCAA's. And you have to pour one out for 449 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,040 everyone in the NCAA who's like, I have to go up against Jacoby 450 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,840 Farr. Look. 451 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Kendrick Smallwood did hold his own in the final and ends up 452 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,240 running the second fastest time but. 453 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,320 Like third today. Yeah, I mean, he was third today 454 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,200 and I was looking at him in a in a Texas uniform and was like, 455 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,120 all right, if Cordell doesn't win, it'll be him. 456 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,840 But Bradley Franklin, like gave them all a run for the for for 457 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,840 their money. So Bradley? 458 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,400 Franklin had it, but Cordell Tinch, we know, and we've seen 459 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,360 him run 60 meter hurdles. Yeah, he's the last 40, last, 460 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,360 sorry, last 50m guy. Yeah, yeah. 461 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:24,200 And he came off that 10th hurdle so well and he's a long boy. 462 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,360 Was able to dip it at the line. They both ran 13 flat. 463 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,960 A very nice personal best for Bradley, for Cordell. 464 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,240 I'm sure he's been like biting his tongue all season trying to 465 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,200 like. Remind people I'm the world 466 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,280 champion. I'm the world champion, but you 467 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,960 know, it's, it's been all about Jamal Britt, Jacoby Tharp. 468 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,120 Those are the guys who keep running under 13. 469 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:55,280 Cordell officially 12.993 that gets rounded up to 1300. 470 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:02,360 They both ran 1300 a very nice win for Cordell Tinch a great 471 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,880 moral victory for Bradley Franklin. 472 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:12,400 I was nervous following this like I I thought would look at 473 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,880 the schedule once again like the two hundreds should finish it 474 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,120 out. Melissa Jefferson Wooden Noel 475 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:20,080 Miles, our biggest stars in the sport like I would close it with 476 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,920 them. But the 100 hurdles the only one 477 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,880 that had prelim so give them the most rest. 478 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,720 But it did deliver a very nice like bang to the end of the the 479 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,120 long weekend. Yeah, just touching on some 480 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,480 other results. Chris Nielsen takes the men's 481 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,200 pole vault title. Vashti Cunningham adds another 482 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,400 national title to their collection in the women's high 483 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,160 jump. Women's long jump for a second. 484 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,520 I mean, I think there's a lot of people who went home. 485 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,800 They are in their cars. They're like, man, that was 486 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800 awesome. Tara Davis Woodhall won. 487 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,320 Like, she threw me AT shirt in the stands and like was dancing 488 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,560 and celebrating. And then we're on the bus on our 489 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,760 way here to the after party and we shout out the results, shout 490 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,960 out to our friends. No Well, dip in Shaw with the 491 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,520 protest window clock. Man I love that thing on the in 492 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,000 the results page it. Is not official until the clock 493 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,400 on the results page is down to 0. 494 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,640 Yeah, so for anyone, yeah, anyone who I guess like, yeah, 495 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,720 at this point has been following along with the live results. 496 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Like you saw a new feature in there was like race ends, 497 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,360 protest window clock begins and very cool. 498 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,880 Like if you're a coach, are you standing? 499 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,400 When are you 10? Yeah, 9. 500 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,560 And then you and then you slide the hundred across the table. 501 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,840 Oh yeah. To the, to the. 502 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,720 Is that a USATF rule as well or is that cash? 503 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,680 No, it's cash, $100 cash to protest the risk. 504 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,440 They don't take Amex. They don't take Amex, they don't 505 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,520 take card, neither does the 1 concession stand that's selling 506 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,240 drinks in the in at icon. So it's cash only. 507 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,680 They didn't take a card. No, they they, they said to me, 508 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,760 it's like you and I said where's the nearest ATM? 509 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,600 Not on this island. As someone who works in this 510 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,120 industry, that's tough. Yeah, big payments guy over 511 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,720 here. Anyway, results get updated as 512 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,080 we're on our way here, and Alyssa Jones from Stanford ends 513 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,520 up being crowned national champion. 514 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,080 Snaps Tara Davis Woodall's very long winning streak. 515 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,880 I think that goes back to 2023. Really. 516 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,320 Yeah, that's that's. You mentioned there's a winning 517 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,480 streak. I didn't realize it was that. 518 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Long, well, think about it. Olympic year she was on fire, 519 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,040 last year undefeated and this year undefeated up until this 520 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,400 point. Obviously, if you think about 521 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,880 it. If you think about it and look 522 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,280 it up, yeah. All right. 523 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,440 Forager hurdles, Men's forager meter hurdles. 524 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,680 We knew Christopher Robinson. Yeah. 525 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360 And Caleb Dean would go out fast. 526 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,320 And it was about who's going to hold on. 527 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,960 Caleb Gene only held on for two hurdles and then Chris Robinson 528 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,720 took over after hurdle 4 closed the whole thing out. 529 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,240 Ends up national champion. Kept it all together. 530 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,160 Yep, no season's best 4761. Good victory for him. 531 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,440 Look, this is a year Rye wasn't around the 400 hurdles. 532 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,120 It was time to test someone else out. 533 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,520 A new opportunity today. He might get to go to Ultimates. 534 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,640 Oh, he's, he's very well positioned. 535 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,080 I don't have to look it up to know that. 536 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,800 Did you see what happened earlier today though? 537 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Do you tell Oh? Allison dos Santos, no 4648. 538 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,320 Wow, yeah, hell yeah. Love to see. 539 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,640 That oh wait, yeah, 4648 I'm pretty sure. 540 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,400 Fastest time, I think second fastest time of his career 541 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,480 behind I think only the Olympics. 542 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,760 It's funny, it was that I assume that was at the Brazilian 543 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,160 national championships. Yeah, I have not seen any other 544 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,080 results from any national championship. 545 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,600 Tomorrow I will pull up the laptop and spend some time going 546 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,520 through everything. And then you subscribe to the 547 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Lab Count newsletter and you'll get a full rundown of like, 548 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,720 incredible results that took place all around the world this 549 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,120 past weekend that you may have not heard. 550 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,200 About, but I've been in the zone you've. 551 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,240 Been in the zone kind of cool though, that like he doubled 400 552 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,080 and 400 hurdles at the Brazilian National Championships and so 553 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,240 he's on fire. Women's 400 hurdles. 554 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,560 Women's 400 hurdles, big crowd reception, of course, for the 555 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:50,200 little Mohammed before the race. And I mean, I oh, she got DQ D 556 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,640 but she was. That protest window. 557 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,760 That protest window got to her. She was not really all that in 558 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,720 it. And clip the hurdle is what Mac 559 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,280 is telling me. Yeah. 560 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,440 So I think like she crashed out pretty hard. 561 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,200 So Anna Cockrell just ended up dominating this 15294 Deonca 562 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,320 bookman from Nike and the W Cap program I believe with the US 563 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,760 Army in second with APB of 5395. Shamir Little rounds out the 564 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,720 podium in 3rd place for this. Like, I mean, tremendous victory 565 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,200 for for Anna. Yeah, I again like. 566 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,400 Kind of changes my mind for ultimates. 567 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,280 Right what you were you're. AI thought I no, I want the 568 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,600 storybook ending of Delilah winning Ultimates and riding off 569 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,720 into the sunset. But now I'm kind of putting that 570 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,960 idea to rest and I think I'm leaning towards Anna Jasmine 571 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,720 Jones, one of the two. I need to see it a race between 572 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,080 the two of them head to head before then. 573 00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,760 I think it when at her best, Anna Cockrell is the favorite. 574 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Pull it out today. We saw her just absolutely 575 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,480 dominate. I mean, in a league of her own 576 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,640 looked really good. Hopefully a big confidence 577 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,480 builder for her. Yeah, I don't know. 578 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:21,280 I feel like the US just, we have a knack for finding 400 hurdlers 579 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,280 and you know, Sydney out of it for a couple of years, it's at 580 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,720 its. Turn right now it's wide open. 581 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,200 Yeah, it's Croatia versus or no Czech Republic versus the world, 582 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,680 Slovakia for Zapatalova. Yeah. 583 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,200 Oh man, this is she's team new bounds Kyle really messing this 584 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,760 up right? Now can we edit this podcast? 585 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,400 No, no edits, straight shot. But anyway, I think it's Czech 586 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Republic. You think so? 587 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:57,280 Yeah, Emma, Slovakia. Don't come at me, Chris. 588 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,320 Yeah, All right. You were right. 589 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Nobody knows more countries than Yeah all. 590 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Right. All right, then let's get to the 591 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,280 8 hundreds. Now, let's begin with just sort 592 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:13,040 of the fact that before actually let's go women's first and then 593 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,600 we'll go to. The the Lake County, Florida 594 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,640 women's 800 meters. Yes. 595 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Who tricked Lake County, Florida into like? 596 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,840 Sponsoring the race. Look, I think a lot of people 597 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,040 are really going to come down to Lake County, Florida, if you 598 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,480 give us a few, $1000. Yeah, it's not just they sponsor 599 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,680 multiple races all throughout the. 600 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,720 Week. Why do I feel like going to get 601 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,120 Adm from someone about me making that joke? 602 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,200 You know, it's a very random, neat sponsor. 603 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,000 Everyone thinks that Mum Donnie is America's mayor, it's the 604 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440 and, and that he loves track. It's actually the Lake County, 605 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,200 Florida mayor who really loves track and is sponsoring all 606 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880 these races. Yeah, I mean, where's 607 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Minneapolis mayor? Why is he not sponsoring races? 608 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,720 I don't know. We know he's a he's. 609 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,880 A track guy. Let me give you some facts about 610 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,560 Lake County, Florida. It features over 1000 lakes, but 611 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,679 they don't call it the Land of 1000 lakes because that's 612 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,280 Minnesota. Yeah, it's the largest city and 613 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,360 it is Claremont, so that makes sense as to why. 614 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,400 Oh, OK. Yeah, they are. 615 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,480 Oh, we, we have 50 Olympians as residents in our town. 616 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,040 Yeah. Yeah, notable people from it. 617 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,600 Ginger Minge the drag queen from being the runner up on the 7th 618 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,480 season of RuPaul's Drag Race. I knew I was familiar with Lake 619 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,440 Florida. But most notably is the fact 620 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,199 that the Notable people section for Lake County, Florida on 621 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,840 Wikipedia does not list any of the professional athletes who 622 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,120 trains who. Live there and who live there? 623 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,679 When Marcel Jacobs moved down there, he was like, I like going 624 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,679 to the grocery store and no one knows who I am. 625 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,360 It's like all the videos we saw during the World Cup of Like, La 626 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,320 Mina Mall is shopping at Target and no one recognizes him. 627 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,680 And so maybe that's their sell. Come to Lake County, Florida, If 628 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,760 you're a star, no one will bother you. 629 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:18,520 All right, Mia Aikens stuns this field, runs 15925 for the win. 630 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,560 Another national title. Just when you kind of start to 631 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,000 count out Mia, I, I think at this point just sort of like, 632 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,080 oh, it's a it's US as and she hasn't had like the best of 633 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,120 seasons and leading up to this, it doesn't matter. 634 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,040 She's just like Marcel Jacobs. She's a championship performer. 635 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,000 She remembered with like 200 years ago. 636 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,320 She's like, oh, I win this. I usually win this. 637 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,920 Yeah, like we kind of said before, well, top race for 638 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,720 Rocheen Willis to, like, try and take this thing. 639 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,560 I didn't love this approach. I think she's got the best close 640 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,320 of the field. I think she's one of the 641 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,360 strongest 800 meter runners out there. 642 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,640 She's based off of the entire portfolio of the season so far. 643 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,320 I think there was reason to believe that she was the fittest 644 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,000 in the field. I mean, like, would it shock you 645 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,960 by the end of this year, you hear? 646 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,480 Roisin Willis ran 155. Not at all, no. 647 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,840 So listen, not a great It's a learning year, an offseason. 648 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,880 I think a lot of people are learning a lot at these US. 649 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,640 USA's Megan Hunter. Very similar to just kind of 650 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:27,120 like went a little too soon. Yeah, we're talking to coach 651 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,160 Dilji Taylor after the race and we're talking about the prelim 652 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,760 where she made a big move leading it to 400 meters to go. 653 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,360 And that was not going to be the plan here as as we were talking 654 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,960 with coach, it was like, no, that's how you qualify for the 655 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,320 finals. But to win the finals, you got 656 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,880 to you got to close it down and not take it from that far out. 657 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,600 I think we're going to see something really special out of 658 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,600 making at some point. I think it's going to click. 659 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,560 Hopefully a meat director out there gives her that opportunity 660 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,400 to come in. She's. 661 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,280 Good. 158 two is not reflective of the type of fitness that she 662 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,520 has playing now and you can see it just by virtue of the 663 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,920 athletes that she's finishing. The whole body of work all 664 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,120 season has been phenomenal for like, think back to like 665 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,080 January, Doctor Sander. Yeah, yeah, It's like, all 666 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,680 right. Like she earned her way to mill 667 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,360 Rose. And then still I think did 668 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,320 really well. I don't know. 669 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,240 She didn't win. The Sidious Mag women's 1K came 670 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:22,720 close. She was a contender in that one. 671 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,880 And we we have a soft spot for alums of the Sidious Mag. 672 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,560 Women's How many alums are? There siga da guma sage herda 673 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,600 Clecker. So we didn't have too many here 674 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,400 at this meeting. Right now we. 675 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,160 Have two soft spots. We have a lot of soft spots, 676 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,120 Yeah. And then Addie Wiley, I mean, 677 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,840 like, we posted the clip from last last night's podcast about 678 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,080 sort of like, I mean, yeah. But then again, it's just sort 679 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,160 of like there's always one weird move, right? 680 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,760 It was a hard move, yeah, which like I understand from the 681 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,000 perspective of being the 15, like the strongest 800 runner, 682 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,320 like the the one coming down or the one who can also run the 683 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,800 1500, that you're going to take it from really far out. 684 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,120 It was just an aggressive move and NIA was able to cover it 685 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,360 enough. Yeah, his final lap was over a 686 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,360 half second faster than than Addie. 687 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,400 And so if you're Addie though, like you walk away from this 688 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,960 weekend with two runner up finishes. 689 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,800 Like, not a bad weekend, all things considered. 690 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,480 In a different year, in an Olympic trials year, when it's 691 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,640 two teams off of more days, yeah, especially it's perfect 692 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,840 point. Yeah, you make 2 teams and you 693 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,720 have more time to get it done. Yeah. 694 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,440 Squeezed into. I mean, she ran every day. 695 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,640 For the last four days. And not to brag, I did too, but 696 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,200 I didn't race them all. I only ran three of the last 697 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,360 four days. Yeah, that's. 698 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,760 Not as good as me and Abby. Do you want to address the fact 699 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,920 that people thought that you had a couple bevies before the 700 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,520 podcast yesterday? Yeah, I got a nice comment on 701 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,440 our Spotify. Kyle had looks like he had a 702 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,640 couple of adult beverages he's had. 703 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,320 One here and I've had one here. I had one. 704 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,600 I just really like track. I feel like that's allowed. 705 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,400 Yeah, I ran. 18 miles. That's right. 706 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,920 We wanted to let people know Kyle ran 18 miles. 707 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,360 Might be a big announcement coming in the future. 708 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,360 Hold on. Yeah, really big announcement 709 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,280 anyway. 8 hundreds. Good race. 710 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,720 Was hoping for Paige Shepherd to get under that 2 flag. 711 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,480 I know, me too. Five women did. 712 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,400 Unfortunately, Paige was not one of them, but we press on. 713 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,280 Juliet Whitaker said. All right, I'm going to disprove 714 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,200 Kyle's theory for one round and then didn't have the best day 715 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,000 today. Look, it's not like she lost 716 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,880 anyone who is. No, they're all good. 717 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,640 She didn't lose the chump change out there. 718 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,840 Yeah, yeah. It's just, and I think I said 719 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:49,440 this yesterday, like if you run the women's 810 times, we get 5 720 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,320 different winners here. Should they do that at a feature 721 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,640 championship? No. 722 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,240 All right. Final event. 723 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,600 Men's 800. Men's 800 butts before they. 724 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,080 Fired off this event. Amazing moment in the stadium. 725 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,280 Really. Special So they decided to honor 726 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,960 legendary coach your former coach Frank Agliano, who for a 727 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,920 period right had the most sub for American milers in history, 728 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,360 might still probably. No idea, that sounds right. 729 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,560 Coached at Manhattan College, Won NCAA title there. 730 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,800 Coached at Roselle Catholic, Roselle Catholic before all of 731 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,320 that. Rutgers yeah, we're an after 732 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,600 farm team, farm team, OTC and Jane Y and. 733 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,520 Jane Y and many other athletes along the way. 734 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,000 And so the reason why this was like so awesome. 735 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,480 And I think like we were explaining this to our young 736 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,800 interns who were like, oh, what, what, what's the deal with this? 737 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,280 And we said it's because like. Everyone in this stands today 738 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,600 was probably either coached by Gagliano or sitting next to 739 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,840 someone who is coached by gags. Yeah. 740 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,640 And like when we got there, there was because we wanted to 741 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,320 go say hello and there was a line to see him. 742 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,920 He was like sitting at the top of the stands and, like, it was 743 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,000 like trying to meet the Pope. But, I mean, they call him the 744 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,960 Godfather for a reason. And so it was. 745 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,840 It was awesome. And the reason I guess like 746 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,880 quick history lesson for folks is like the likes of Julie 747 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:30,840 Benson, Diljit Taylor Vilanana, Chris Miltonberg, Pat Henner, 748 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,520 that's like we've you can retrace a lot of American middle 749 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,000 distances coaching tree back to gags. 750 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,600 And so when Nikki wins, like there's a connection there. 751 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,800 And so that's I think one of the coolest parts to our history as 752 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,760 a sport. And so today it was, it was, it 753 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,040 was just great to see him and like he he took it in. 754 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,800 It was a lot. Yeah, it was really cool. 755 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,360 I mean when he was like throwing his first up in the air, it was 756 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,840 awesome and he was wearing his USA gears obviously Olympic 757 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:07,680 coach and and has coached many Olympians. 758 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,160 It was awesome. It was honestly, it was 759 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,520 emotional and I talking to some former teammates and former GAG 760 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,400 athletes also throughout the enclave as another group. 761 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,240 It was, it was like a, it was a really cool moment. 762 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,280 And they did with John Smith yesterday. 763 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,160 Yesterday. Yeah, yeah. 764 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,840 And it's just like, we need more of that. 765 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,560 That's like the the heritage and the history and the kids don't 766 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,120 know how we got here, but before there was double, double 767 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,400 threshold, there was Gagliano telling you to run 6 by 800. 768 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,840 And that was like a revolutionary time. 769 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,840 The heck of the day. Yeah. 770 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,840 And so it was really cool. Lots of former gag athletes. 771 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,920 It's really like a fraternity and sorority out there of former 772 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,320 Gagliano athletes. And so in addition to seeing 773 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,240 GAGS, you and I went up and said hello to him and his family. 774 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,120 We all 300. People. 775 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,320 There were 300 people ticketed just to see gags. 776 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,040 I mean they what they could have done on Rob Vermilion over the 777 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,840 Loud. You know, our announcer is a 778 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,440 former Gagliano athlete. They should have had like a 779 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,080 thing where it's like stand up if you're a former Gagliano 780 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,120 athlete. And it would have been crazy how 781 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,720 many people would have stood up. Yeah, yeah. 782 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,800 So really, really cool moment. It was special seeing him still 783 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,080 stay in touch. And yeah, it was great. 784 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,800 One day, Chris, I feel like maybe your next book that. 785 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,880 'D be cool. So it's funny enough to connect 786 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,600 it to the race that we saw unfold. 787 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,840 One of the big things with Gagliano is always like he had 788 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,760 this, he has this love for like the NCAA system, like would only 789 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,640 coach pros and so a couple. He turned down many, especially 790 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,360 when I was at NJ and Y, because I ran for him for seven years, 791 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,800 turned down a lot of high school and college phenoms who like he 792 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,560 he wanted you to stay in the instead of lay and tangents. 793 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,840 But like I was at Columbia and I was supposed to go to my fifth 794 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,400 year at Texas and I ran well. And I was like, yeah, should I 795 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,600 like bypass this year at Texas and like, come join you now. 796 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,560 And he was like, no, go to Texas. 797 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,280 You got a scholarship, you're not even paying for it. 798 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,200 Go. Yeah. 799 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:19,720 So like that was the type of guy that he was, the mindset that he 800 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:21,720 has, loves the answer to play, believes in the development of 801 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,480 US athletes. And so when a couple months 802 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,320 back, I texted her group chat and I was like, random thought. 803 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,280 I was like, you think if Cooper Luckenhouse approached him as 804 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,440 like, gags. I want you to coach. 805 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,120 Me, absolutely. Not, he said. 806 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,640 Yeah, it's crazy. I was like. 807 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,840 It wouldn't even be a question. I was thinking, I was like, oh, 808 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,040 with that level of talent, would Gagliano break his policy? 809 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,640 No. No because gags I can do. 810 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,560 I mean I do 2 hours on this. Gagliano actually enjoyed 811 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:56,920 coaching like the 149 guy down to 144 more than he enjoyed 812 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,800 coaching like a 145 guy down to 142 or like that was like he got 813 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,360 more of a thrill out of the walk on. 814 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who would and? 815 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,680 We saw that. Over the years, which is sort of 816 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,720 like the talent NJ and Y would attract. 817 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:13,280 And it's like, Oh no, making AUS final was a huge accomplishment. 818 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,440 You'd be more. Excited. 819 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,360 Make the trials on. It you'd be more excited for, 820 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,680 you know, Ford Palmer developing than like Don making another 821 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:28,840 Olympic like like it was sometimes as a guy who dad like 822 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,000 some accolades coming to him. You're like, whoa, what about 823 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,760 me? But he he liked just seeing 824 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,360 people improve. And he liked giving people a 825 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,520 chance, so and also all it says. Is no, he wouldn't have coached. 826 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,320 Cooper. But what Cooper's got is 827 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,360 working. So shout out coach Chris Capo 828 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,640 because Cooper ends up adding his first US outdoor 800 meter 829 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,000 title 14348 and hilarious comedy made after the race was like 830 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,160 finally got to run 143 because he totally skipped over that 831 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,000 over the last two years and so great victory for him. 832 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:03,720 Hell of a run by Wes Ferguson in second place. 833 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,360 I mean, yo, don't sleep. He's doing great. 834 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,040 He really fantastic. close of the last 100 both days. 835 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,040 Hobbs ending up third look they tried to make Cooper. 836 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,600 Work for it. They tried. 837 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,320 They tried I. Mean major kudos. 838 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,280 For that move that he had going into 200 meters to go to get to 839 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:29,080 the rail first, it was I. The entire crowd went, yeah, 840 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,160 yeah, like an emotional, like physical reaction to it. 841 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,680 It was so hard and dominant. It was violent would be the only 842 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,800 way to describe. But we were sitting in front of 843 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,520 the stands where like you could see just sort of like this is 844 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,200 again, the racing maturity that has developed year over year for 845 00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,360 someone like Cooper, like he stuck a hand out and. 846 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,480 Like. He was. 847 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,840 He looked like a much smarter racer than he did. 848 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,400 Sort of. Not that he it was not a smart 849 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,560 race for last year because he obviously like made the team and 850 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,400 ran amazingly, but like he knows how to command races now without 851 00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,720 being up in the front of the race. 852 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:07,080 I want Seb Co to call Cooper and just say please, please come to 853 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,720 Budapest. Here's what you were playing. 854 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,320 Fun fact is like, I don't know if you got a chance to listen to 855 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,560 this, but World Athletics posted a interview with Seb on like the 856 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,560 Business of Sport podcast or something like that, where he 857 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,800 was a guest and they asked him like, who's like your favorite 858 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,080 athlete? Not your favorite athlete, but 859 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,120 like who's your, who's one of the most exciting athletes right 860 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,520 now? He's like, there's a 17 year old 861 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,520 from the United States. He's like really good. 862 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,800 So like he's, he already recognizes like, yeah, come 863 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,160 2028, he might be. Josh Kerr sitting there with his 864 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,880 hands of like, OK. It was. 865 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,000 It was. Recorded from what I have to do. 866 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,600 Yeah, it was recorded before that, but yeah, I mean, 867 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,080 incredible race by Cooper. When we walk, when you walk into 868 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,480 the stadium, it's like he's already this star that we're 869 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,600 propping up and it's really cool. 870 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,520 Like big blown up version of him when you walk in. 871 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,560 And so, yeah, I mean, it's delivered so. 872 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,360 Where do we go from here, Chris? Yeah. 873 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:09,920 Tell the fans we have 767 weeks left of the season. 874 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,960 Yeah, the US Championships is over. 875 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,520 Well then, Diamond League's on a break until end of August. 876 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,800 Commonwealth Games starting in a couple days. 877 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,000 I think it just starts. Yeah, it starts tomorrow. 878 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,800 Europeans shortly after. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking, I'm 879 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,560 your. 20s next week. Yeah, I'm looking at my calendar 880 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,680 in front of me. We got, you know, this is the 881 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,800 time for like the Americans to stay home and also get, you 882 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,880 know, some good training in. But there's a bunch of meats, 883 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,840 Sir Walter Miller taking place the 7th, the Guardian Mile, 884 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:45,560 Falmouth Mile, then that's that. Those are spaced out like week 885 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,360 over week. That takes us to the Los Anne 886 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,400 Diamond League returning on the 21st of Friday of August, I 887 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,680 believe so, yeah. I mean, plenty of track left. 888 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,720 A lot of world rankings crunching coming up. 889 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,680 Not sure what flights to Budapest are looking like right 890 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,040 now. It's you want to be at Ultimates 891 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,600 it's 3. Days, yeah, non-stop, only 892 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,280 finals. You go out at night, you wake up 893 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,960 in the morning, you can just sleep in. 894 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,200 There's nothing. You go to the bed. 895 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,000 Yeah, yeah, because there's nothing in the morning, because 896 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,480 we're just finals only. In Prime time baby. 897 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,160 Accommodations cheap. Yes, Airbnb's are cheap. 898 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,960 This is not sponsored by Airbnb if you're watching on YouTube. 899 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,680 We're also not sponsored by Budweiser, we're only sponsored 900 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,800 by New Balance. So plenty, plenty of 901 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,920 opportunities to go out and see the best of the. 902 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,800 Best, I mean, you can take some red eyes and like a single day 903 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:49,160 of PTO and see everyone. Ultimate, Ultimate as the kids 904 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,360 are calling it. So that's what we have to look 905 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,480 forward to the rest of the summer. 906 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,800 Overall, it's great having you in New York. 907 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,520 USA should obviously be two days rather than four days. 908 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,640 You're going to write about that in life. 909 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,920 I mean, that might be a sentence long article of the lap count, 910 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,200 but it was very fun having a great energy today it's. 911 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,000 Nice for us to sleep in our own beds for once, but I'm gladly. 912 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,280 We're there. They loved it for a little bit, 913 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,640 then they were ready to go. They'll grow up to love it just 914 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,320 like we did. I love track and field. 915 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,320 It was a great weekend, super fun. 916 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,800 Yeah. First USA is in New York since 917 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,600 1991. I wasn't even born yet. 918 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,360 Crazy, crazy. I remember vividly. 919 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,040 This is the. First USA is in New York in my 920 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,000 lifetime. All right, that does it. 921 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,960 Thanks everyone for tuning in over the last couple days. 922 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,400 Thanks for following along on CS Max social channels. 923 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,040 We got more track coming all throughout the summer and that 924 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,440 says it will be back in just a couple days with more interviews 925 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,000 and podcasts and all that stuff that you love. 926 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,040 Peace.