1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,120 What's up everyone? You are listening to the CDs Mag 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,120 podcast. I'm your host Chris Chavez, and 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,480 every week we go beyond the results to bring you 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,480 conversations with the biggest names on the track, the roads, 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 and behind the scenes. From world class athletes and 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,280 coaches to innovators shaping the sport. 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,520 If it's happening on the track, we're covering it with real 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,560 insights that sharpen minds, deep dives into the moments that 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,360 define careers, and the kind of access to the pros you won't get 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,280 anywhere. Else. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,800 So let's get into it because we love. 12 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,080 Track and field. 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We saw those tags. 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,160 We screenshot it a few and we appreciate every single one from 36 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,240 me and producer Jasmine Fair. Thank you truly. 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,280 We packed in so many shows in 2025 and we're somehow creeping 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,480 toward 1000 episodes since 2017, which is just wild. 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,720 We do this because. Of and for listeners like you, 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:10,160 let's keep this thing going. Anderson Emerald here taking 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,920 over the show today for a conversation I recorded while 42 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:15,600 Chris was out in Hawaii. My guest for today is one of the 43 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,320 most exciting sprinters in the world right now. 44 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:21,440 Julian Alfred is the reigning Olympic champion in the 100 45 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,640 meters, a world indoor champion in the 60 meters, and is 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,120 rewriting history for Saint Lucia on the biggest stages in 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,520 track and field. On February 1st, 2026, Julian 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,520 will return to the Armory in New York City to headline the 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,160 women's 60 meters at the Melrose Games, the same track where she 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,480 ran a meat record in 2024 before going on to win World and 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,520 Olympic gold medals that year. In our conversation, we don't 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,800 just speak about the medals or the times, but we dive into what 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,440 comes after her breakthrough and how she learns to carry success 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,400 without letting it completely take over. 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,320 Julian opens up about navigating the pressure, the expectations, 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,880 and even experiencing loneliness while at the top. 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,680 She explained having to grow up quickly as a child in Saint 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,400 Lucia, moving to Jamaica and later Texas, and learning how to 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,560 protect her mental health while still pushing herself to be the 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,360 best that she can be. We also discussed the trust that 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,000 she has in her coach, Edrick Florial, and why 2026 feels less 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,720 about proving something to the world and more about 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,080 rediscovering joy in the sport that she loves. 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,120 I know you'll enjoy the conversation, so let's dive in 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:41,280 with Julian Alfred. All right, so I am now joined by 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,280 the Olympic 100m champion, also the world indoor 60m champion 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,760 from Saint Lucia, Julian Alfred. We were speaking a little bit 68 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,480 before, but I mean just how has the the offseason been? 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,000 And I guess like, when have you started back training so. 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:02,600 Actually, I, I did maybe a few days in October and I left 71 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:08,760 practice for about two weeks to go to Germany and to also 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,080 fulfill my duties after as an ambassador. 73 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:17,760 And I came back and I started around November 9th or 10th 74 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,760 after I returned. So it hasn't been a long time. 75 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:26,360 So I will consider it maybe about a month since I've been 76 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,600 back in practice, I'll say that. OK. 77 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,800 So it's not too bad. And you said that coach flow is 78 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,520 like pounding you. You're like. 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Yes, already he doesn't, he doesn't play any games. 80 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,040 But I mean, I'm all here for it if it's going to allow me to be 81 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,280 my best self coming 2026 cults winning so I'm not complaining. 82 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,520 There you go. There you go. 83 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,160 And I mean 2026, it's going to be your, it'll be your official 84 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,280 third year as a professional since, you know, finishing at at 85 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:55,400 Texas. I wonder if before you enter the 86 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,440 season, before you start fall training, if you and coach flow, 87 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,960 you sit down and you, you know, map out your goals for the year, 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,560 or if it's just like you just dive into practice and you're 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,520 like, all right, coach flow, you, you got it. 90 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:11,600 The, the thing about it is that before the season actually ends, 91 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,720 we start talking about what we want to do the next, the 92 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,000 following year. And this year we had a chance 93 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,440 to, we're going to talk here and there about what we expect 94 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,240 coming into, going into 2026. So we usually do start the year 95 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,880 of having a little chat as to what exactly we look forward to. 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,760 And maybe after practice, when I'm done for workouts, after 97 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,480 he's done killing me in the workout, maybe we'll start 98 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,720 talking about like what the expectations are for the 99 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,120 following year. So we do hint at it here and 100 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,720 there. So I wonder how you balance that 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,880 then because obviously if you're, if you're doing a little 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,120 bit of thinking of 2026, but you're still locked in on like, 103 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,800 all right, I got to perform in 2025. 104 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,880 How do you kind of balance that both those things? 105 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,880 But it's not some, it's something that I've always done. 106 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,560 To be quite honest, I'm if it was maybe our last championships 107 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,640 or when I'm like close to being done, he will probably hint at 108 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,720 what our plans are for the next following year. 109 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,720 So let's say I'm my championship, like next we 110 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,120 probably gonna work on this or like this year I'm not doing any 111 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,360 four hundreds anymore. So you probably mentioned that, 112 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:27,640 but it's nothing that's going to distract me from what I'm doing 113 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 that same year. It's not going to distract me 114 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,360 whatsoever. That makes sense. 115 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,120 Makes sense. So like I said, Speaking of, you 116 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,200 know, you're not doing any four hundreds, but he will be diving 117 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,240 into and competing at the Milrose Games next year at the 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Armory, which should be really exciting. 119 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,040 And you know, you competed last year, well, 2024, you set the 120 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,800 meat record in the 60 meters. I wonder what went into the 121 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,920 decision to again jump back into the 60 and compete at Milrose 122 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,080 this year. Yeah, I mean, sat down here for 123 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,200 one and although like my coach, he did ask me he what do you 124 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,120 want to do the next year? And of course I love the 60. 125 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,920 I did the 60 a lot in college and also my first year as a 126 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,120 professional athlete. And it's really a fun year for 127 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,320 me doing the things that I actually love and enjoy and 128 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,000 considering at the 60 something I really love. 129 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,320 I, I decided that it was going to be part of my plans for 2026. 130 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,320 So I'm really looking forward to competing the 60 again after 131 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,440 running three hundreds and four hundreds in those. 132 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,400 So actually we get. It's it's so interesting because 133 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,320 I guess from even what I heard, like when you were at Texas, 134 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,880 even the 200 was like maybe not your favorite. 135 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,520 No. So no. 136 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,720 It wasn't. When like when Coach Flow comes 137 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,600 up to you in the fall of like 2024 and he's like all right at 138 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,840 the top of 2025, we got to do some three hundreds and four 139 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,600 hundreds. Like what's going through your 140 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,000 mind at that point? At first I didn't believe him 141 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:04,360 until I had an interview with Otto Bolden and he announced it 142 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,320 was on Instagram Live. And he announced, OK, actually 143 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Juden's going to be running four hundreds next season. 144 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,240 And he was like, OK, he announced it. 145 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,760 That means it has to be true. But although, like I know it's 146 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,240 just not something that I actually like, I trust my 147 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,080 coach's plan. And if he's going to make me be 148 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:29,320 my best self and be the best athlete that I can be and he 149 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,960 sees that's what I need, that's what I need on the track, then 150 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,960 I'm going to do it. Even though it's going to be 151 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,240 hard for me to like do it. But I think that because of my 152 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,640 trust in him, I think I just go ahead and just do it as much as 153 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,440 I hated every single moment of it, including the the training. 154 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,520 But I did it. It's done now and I hope I don't 155 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,000 do it anymore. Maybe a 4 by 4 but just not the 156 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,280 400, sorry. Not the individual 400, you 157 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,240 know. Well, I wonder if you know, 158 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,200 Milrose Games with the 60 and then indoors overall, is all of 159 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,600 this going to be a stepping stone towards getting back to 160 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,200 world indoors in 2026? We haven't thought so far as yet 161 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,120 as it pertains to running world indoors. 162 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,880 Maybe, maybe not, I'm not sure yet. 163 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,960 However, I'm taking one meet at a time and so far murals is the 164 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,400 first on the list to compete as and that's my main goal, right. 165 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,280 I'm not really thinking about what indoors as of now. 166 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,800 So I'm just thinking about just attending murals as I did as I 167 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,160 competed there in 2024. So that's really our main focus 168 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,360 as of now. Nice. 169 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,160 And that's cool. And like you said before, it's 170 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,280 like 2026. It's an off year in a sense. 171 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,840 There's no worlds or Olympics. So you have a little flexibility 172 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,880 to be able to navigate through the year a little bit 173 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,960 differently. So that should be cool. 174 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,520 I guess looking back in 2024, you know, when you did win world 175 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,920 indoor gold in the 60, you eventually became Olympic 176 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,160 champion in the 100, Olympic silver in the 200, and all of 177 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,720 those were first for your country, becoming the first 178 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,240 champion for your country. I wondered if entering that 179 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,600 year, if there was any pressure that you felt to perform, you 180 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,960 know, to represent your country, to put on for your country. 181 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:21,560 No, it wasn't any Entering that year 2024, there wasn't any 182 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:24,320 pressure. I think the pressure really came 183 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,680 about after I won more indoors actually. 184 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,320 So after that, the hence why I took a long break and I think it 185 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,320 was me, yeah, take a long break in May and late April to just 186 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,760 really focus on training and dial back and get myself 187 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,760 together mentally as well. But I think that pressure really 188 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,280 came about after we're indoors and of course going to Olympics, 189 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,960 because now they're expecting me to go there and, you know, 190 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,640 deliver. But when I entered 2024, there 191 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,320 wasn't any pressure. If anything, it was on myself 192 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,520 because I always put pressure on myself to go out there and 193 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,920 perform and be my best self. But outside pressure? 194 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,040 No, there wasn't any. I would. 195 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,960 So that that's pretty. It makes sense because like, 196 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,480 like you said, you get the gold medal at World Indoors and then 197 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,440 it's like, and I remember I think you had gone home for a 198 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,040 little bit or at some point after that. 199 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,320 So I can imagine it's like you're seeing people, they're 200 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,960 celebrating you. But you're like, all right, now 201 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,600 I got the Olympics to go. Yeah. 202 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Yeah, I mean, at that time too, just, you know, everybody 203 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,520 celebrated me and the minister of Sports on our bookends 204 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Academy, he he made a comment and he was like, OK, so now 205 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:36,040 we're expecting a gold medal at the Olympics. 206 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,280 And that freaked me out. I'm not going to lie. 207 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,880 I was freaked out internally and I didn't mention it to anybody, 208 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,480 but I was just so hard on myself. 209 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,120 It's like now I have to go out there because now they expected 210 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,680 me to deliver a gold medal or to bring home a gold medal, and 211 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:56,400 thankfully it came to fruition. I did. 212 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,640 I worked hard to get to that point, but it did psych me out, 213 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,840 Yeah. After, I mean, after, yeah, 214 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,600 after the Olympics, we had, you know, you got a chance to be 215 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:10,560 heavily featured in the Netflix documentary Sprint. 216 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,640 And we saw, like, that moment after, you know, the after you 217 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,760 won the gold medal and you go in the back and we could see you, 218 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,560 like, crying. I wonder if that was like the 219 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:22,080 release of everything that was building up that year. 220 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Yeah, it was I think there was so many things that I I held 221 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,560 inside that I released at the time warned my dad not being 222 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:35,920 there to like celebrate me. And I think the realization that 223 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,920 I actually did it because earlier on that year, I almost 224 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,000 gave up and thankfully Coach Flo gave me a call and asked me to 225 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,720 get myself together and come to training, even if even if men 226 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,520 taking a break from competing. But that during that time, I 227 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:54,360 just, I just had to release my emotions. 228 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:58,000 I I couldn't believe that I had one at the time. 229 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,320 And it was just so many things that I had to really just let go 230 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,280 during that time. What is what is giving up? 231 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,720 What? What is I guess going through 232 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,040 your mind as you're like, I'm going to give up, like literally 233 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,720 leave the sport or is it like take a break? 234 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,440 Like what does that mean? So sometimes means leaving the 235 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,440 sport and literally going back home. 236 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,920 It just, it gets to that point, to be honest, when you feel like 237 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,440 you've given your all to something. 238 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,120 And even training, when training kicks my butt. 239 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,320 It's like, I don't know what else to do. 240 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,800 I'm trying my very best every single day, making the 241 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,680 sacrifices and it's like, I don't know what else to do. 242 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,800 But to me, sometimes it means leaving the sport and just being 243 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,680 done with it or like just really taking a step back and realizing 244 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:45,760 how far I've come and taking the time to realize the good things 245 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,120 that's actually happening. It's so easy for us to think 246 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,920 about the negativity and to think about even like now, like 247 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,640 whenever I had their practice, I think of just the negative 248 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,480 things that's happening. My coach always said to me, look 249 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,960 at how many good things that's happening. 250 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,640 Like everything else around your life is going good. 251 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,560 So you cannot really dwell on the negative part. 252 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:06,040 But sometimes it depends on how bad it is. 253 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,960 It means leaving, that's what sometimes it just means just 254 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,960 taking a step back and just give myself a break and detaching, 255 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,400 which I did this summer. I got a chance to really detach 256 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,360 from the sport and, you know, beat my family, my friends and 257 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,280 just forget about track and field for a little bit and come 258 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,840 back into training. Fully NN Nice. 259 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,480 And I know after the Olympics in 24 you of course competed on the 260 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,920 circuit a bit. I wonder if the pressure felt 261 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,120 like it was really eased off, or if maybe you felt even more of 262 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,760 like, OK, wow, I have to go into 2025 and either match this or 263 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,160 replicate it. I wonder what that kind of 264 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,080 feeling was like at that point. Yeah, I think the pressure 265 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,440 didn't stop there. It definitely continued. 266 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,000 It was even worse, to be quite honest, because now during the 267 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,240 spotlight and now you expected to go into 2025 and do well. 268 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,080 So I'm somebody, I'm very shy. Listen, I'm very private as well 269 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,840 now, so having the cameras on you or like your name being the 270 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,880 in the headlines all the time is it was it felt like a lot of 271 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,600 pressure to me as well. And I actually just really take 272 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,520 it some time to just get myself together in the background and, 273 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,520 you know, just lean on my support system to help me during 274 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,760 those times. But it was a lot of pressure 275 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,160 head into 2025, which I felt like every moment indoors, not 276 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,520 so much because I did 3 hundreds and four hundreds. 277 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,080 I didn't even run those events. I didn't really care. 278 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,400 But as it pertains to the 200 and the 100, yes, I felt the 279 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,280 pressure a lot. I would say that. 280 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,120 I I wouldn't, I wouldn't say you didn't feel too much pressure 281 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,480 before. Coach Flo hears this and he's 282 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,680 like, oh, no pressure in the three hundreds and fours. 283 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,960 Let me throw you back into this. No, no, no pressure in the. 284 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,080 I mean, I wasn't even doing those events, but I was trained 285 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,480 for it, yes. 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Connecting a little bit back 317 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:13,560 with St. Lucia, you've had a really, I 318 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,360 guess like eclectic journey where obviously from Saint Lucia 319 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:19,240 you were in Jamaica and now of course in the US and Texas. 320 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,440 I wonder, like at each of those points, like what impact has all 321 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,040 of those places that you've lived and trained in and 322 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,040 experienced life in had on your life? 323 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,000 I mean, I mean, just starting off with like St. 324 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,480 Lucia and all those times growing up, like what impact did 325 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,200 that have on your life to be who you are now? 326 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,600 I think growing up in Saint Lucia, it's, I can speak from a 327 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:49,120 point of who I had around me and there was examples of people I 328 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,440 didn't want to be like and who feel by the wayside and who give 329 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,520 up their talent to just, you know, just be on the streets or, 330 00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:59,680 you know, just do things that they enjoy. 331 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,240 But it allowed me to not be a bigger person. 332 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,040 I think I had to grow up very fast and I'm really glad I made 333 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,480 that decision at a young age, even though it was one of the 334 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,160 hardest decisions that I had to make in my career. 335 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Leaving Saint Lucia early, the support of my my mom, my 336 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,640 siblings, my coach at the time to just leave Tunusia and go 337 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,880 take a big opportunity to go to Jamaica and I'm really glad I 338 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,880 did. In Jamaica, I spent three years 339 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,560 there by myself, no family members. 340 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,720 I spent an entire year. I haven't spent Christmas in 341 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,400 Jamaica and didn't get a chance to go home. 342 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,400 I didn't go home until maybe summertime. 343 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,400 So I spent that entire without seeing my family, which was 344 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,360 pretty hard for me. So I really had to grow up and 345 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:50,200 be more responsible because I was the last child at the time 346 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,680 and my mom, my siblings, they did everything for me when I was 347 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,680 growing up. They cook, they clean and I had 348 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,920 like no worries. All that was just go to school, 349 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,960 get good grades and. Focus on training, even though 350 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,240 it meant even though sometimes I would not go to training, I'm 351 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,640 like what you come to look for me in my community, but I think 352 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,320 I really have to grow up and become more responsible and 353 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,480 truly dying and know what I want. 354 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,600 I think I was very focused at a young age. 355 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,560 You know, sometimes your teenage years, yes you want you know 356 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,640 what you want, but you also care about your friends and going out 357 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,400 with them and having fun. But I think I was just so tired 358 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,560 in at a very young age that I was just so focused on not 359 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,960 thinking about what my friends had going on because I already 360 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,800 knew what I wanted and what came with it. 361 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,520 As now as an adult, as you've like you've gotten older, I 362 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,600 wonder, considering what your family, you know, your mom, your 363 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,360 siblings and everyone did for you, do you feel almost like a 364 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:52,000 responsibility or like a just something to be like? 365 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,160 I have to give back to them considering what they did for 366 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,440 me. Yeah, not just my family. 367 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:02,440 I just think, fun fact that my family and I, we don't talk 368 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,920 about track and field whatsoever. 369 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,120 So I just don't like mixing the two because I would love to step 370 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:11,360 away from track and field and not hear about it. 371 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:14,960 Still my family's, my family. And then track and field, now 372 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,200 it's work. So we don't really talk about 373 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,280 it. However, I just think that God 374 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,080 has blessed me to be in this position and it's always good to 375 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,040 like give back, not just in my family, but just like the youth, 376 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,560 which is something that big on like giving back to the youth in 377 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,840 Saint Lucia. So I think none of that is 378 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,360 family or not. It's always good to like give 379 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:37,200 back to those positions about. And you, you started a 380 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,960 foundation in Saint Lucia, am I right? 381 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,760 How did how did that come about? So I studied youth on community 382 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,960 studies in, in college like in Texas. 383 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,560 And that was something I really wanted in my contract actually 384 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,720 Puma. So Puma actually sponsors that 385 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,680 foundation. I launched it last year April 386 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,920 after I won more indoors when I went to take that trip in Saint 387 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,680 Lucia for the celebration. So I launched it that time. 388 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,280 And so far, like we've been in the process of getting the 389 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,800 foundation together, the board members and trying to put it 390 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,080 together and the account like actually just opened after we 391 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,360 went through that long process of finally putting together. 392 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:18,440 So the account is now open. And I'm just looking forward to, 393 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,040 you know, giving back, whether through education or sports, 394 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,320 because I think they go hand in hand and everybody's going to 395 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,040 the sports, but also giving back for education as well. 396 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,520 So I think just me wanted to give back and based on what I 397 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,160 studied like in college, that is something I'm very passionate 398 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,320 about. Nice. 399 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,520 That that's really cool. That is, I think some, I mean, 400 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,120 whether it's like athletes or just people in general early in 401 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:46,160 their careers, they may not think about being able to give 402 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,360 back to others or being able to start a foundation or something 403 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:50,440 like that. So hearing you again, you're 404 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,240 only going into, you haven't even started your third year as 405 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,320 a pro and you're already like, you know, being able to give 406 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280 back to your country. That's that's a very, very big 407 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,560 deal. So that is huge. 408 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,840 Thank you. In so in Jamaica, like you said, 409 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,920 you spent three years, I wonder if, as you know, after a year, 410 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,080 after two years, did you start to feel more comfortable and 411 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:15,000 even did you feel like, OK, this is I can make something of, you 412 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,480 know, my talent of track and field to become something 413 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,720 bigger. Yeah, I think I felt that the 414 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,600 first year in Jamaica, like, you know, they have boys and girls 415 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,240 champs, which is so big in Jamaica. 416 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,240 And my first year I got 2 silver medals. 417 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,080 So I think being in that environment, it definitely made 418 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,600 me stronger in that environment. I think that you cannot be soft. 419 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,680 And it prepared me to compete on, you know, the global stage 420 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,680 because being a, being a young child competing in an 421 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,960 environment like that, the horns, the crowd, it's like no 422 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,760 other and just the energy. And I think that it was just an 423 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,560 amazing experience overall. And I would say each year I got 424 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:04,080 better at knowing who I who I was, who I am sorry, who I am as 425 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,560 an athlete and like where I want to go. 426 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,360 And though it was very hard being from family, I would 427 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:17,640 definitely say that I, it made me realize what I want and how 428 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,960 bad I want it because I could have given up during that time 429 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,920 being over from my family, being over from my loved ones and go 430 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,640 back home because it was just, it was difficult for me, I would 431 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,360 say, but I just realized how bad I want it is. 432 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,600 I'm making that sacrifice was something I'll always give 433 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,680 myself a partner back for because it doesn't those 434 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,320 opportunities don't really come easy. 435 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,600 And the fact that I took it as a very young age, age of 14 and 436 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,600 leaving home, I would say that it was definitely meant to be. 437 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,800 And I'm really glad that, you know, they gave me that 438 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,640 opportunity to go out there and just see what I'm made of. 439 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,240 That is, that is really cool. And of course you ended up at at 440 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:03,320 Texas in the US Did you imagine that you'd be like competing in 441 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,040 the NCAA in the United States being one of the top, you know, 442 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,920 NCAA athletes? Like, did you imagine that? 443 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Not until my last year in Jamaica, I started looking at 444 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,040 schools that I would want to be at. 445 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,200 One of them was Oregon. I think around that time Oregon 446 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,560 won a national championships. And obviously as a child you 447 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,360 want to be in an environment people are winning. 448 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,920 So I was looking at Oregon and after I left Jamaica, I went to 449 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,320 Saint Lucia for three years, not sorry, not three years, what am 450 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,880 I saying, six months. And during that time I was 451 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,840 trying to figure out what my next step would be. 452 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:47,400 And I visited UTSA, fun fact, I took AI, took a visit to UTSA 453 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,240 because I was in contact with Kareem during that time. 454 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,200 And then coach floor restart to me, which I was looking at coach 455 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,840 floor during my time in Jamaica as well because of Sydney at the 456 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,480 time. She was just doing so well, 457 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,320 breaking collegiate records and I was just looking at or 458 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,080 watching videos that they would have on YouTube and stuff. 459 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,760 So when he gave me the call, I was very hesitant because I was 460 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,920 already thinking of going to UTSC, so I'm glad I didn't. 461 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,200 So when I took my visit, I just so close to like, yes, I'm gonna 462 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,880 come and didn't go to anywhere. Didn't visit anywhere else after 463 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,880 that. So I've been at UT since then 464 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,600 since 2019. Visited November 2018 and then 465 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,840 started school January 2019. That would have been a crazy 466 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,120 parallel universe of like you. Know I'm glad I I didn't go 467 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,000 there. That would have been so crazy. 468 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,600 What, what's interesting is at Texas, because I think January, 469 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,040 I'm, I'm trying to remember, I feel like January 2020 or so, 470 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,640 you had really started to 2019 as well. 471 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,880 But I feel like January 2020, you really started to kind of 472 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,360 pop off. You were starting to hit some 473 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,640 really good times and then COVID hit and that kind of shut 474 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,840 everything down. I wonder, I wonder how that 475 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:06,480 affected you. So I think that December 2019, I 476 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,360 ran 7718 for the very first time. 477 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:14,240 That was in Houston. And then after that, I think 478 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:20,480 January I ran 7/1 in Albuquerque. 479 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,160 I think I ran against like Briscoe, if I remember clearly. 480 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,720 And then COVID hit whilst we were at National. 481 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,000 So I had to go back. We had to go back to Austin and 482 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,720 I flew to Philadelphia to be with some people that I knew 483 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,080 from Jamaica and I got stuck there because St. 484 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:49,440 Lucia closed the borders and I was stuck there for March for 485 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800 until, until June, so not until my birthday. 486 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,560 I left to go to Saint Lucia, go back to Saint Lucia where I 487 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,320 still have to quarantine for a long time before I could 488 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,200 actually see my family. And then I had to turn right 489 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,640 back around to go back to Austin because we had to be there I 490 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,800 think about two weeks before school started to, you know, we 491 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,400 had to be quarantined and get tested before everything 492 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,360 started. But it was so hard for me could 493 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,520 flow call me every single day to check up on me because I was 494 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,880 stuck and I was just so depressed during that time 495 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,680 because I was by myself. I had no family members and 496 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,640 seeing people, their loved ones, it really had an effect on me 497 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,080 because I was by myself again and I was so tired of being 498 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,640 alone. It was just such a difficult 499 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,040 moment for me, but I learned from that he's in school. 500 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,960 Do do all these kind of experiences, like you said, 501 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,000 growing up in Saint Lucia, seeing some, having to literally 502 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,760 grow up, you know, quicker than you know, you might have 503 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,480 expected being in Jamaica on your own without being able to 504 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,320 see your family. Of course, going through COVID, 505 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,520 not being able to see your family. 506 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640 I wonder if you kind of ever reflect back on those 507 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,960 experiences to see where you've come from and what you've been 508 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040 through. I do all the time. 509 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,200 I do all the time and that's why I like I always try to protect 510 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,600 my family because they're like my safe place. 511 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,480 And whenever I get a chance to go see them, I always run to 512 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,320 them and I always take a chance to just reflect on how far I've 513 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,600 come. And like, which always reminds 514 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,480 me every single time I, I go for like a hard time and just just 515 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,720 giving myself like the credit just to see how strong I am. 516 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,400 And just realizing that you've come such a long way and you've 517 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,920 grown up a lot because before anything, I would cry and I 518 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,880 would want to go home every single time. 519 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,480 But anything that I've come such a long way and realizing that 520 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,400 it's been a journey to get to this point in my life, but never 521 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,600 forget, never forget what happened and always be grateful 522 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,440 for where you're at now. So and so we'll Fast forward a 523 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,640 little bit into this past year in 2025. 524 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,600 I mean, it was definitely a very long year. 525 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,640 I guess literally in that world, it feels like world champs just 526 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,200 ended in like late September. But then also like there was you 527 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,800 dealt with a lot throughout the year in various different 528 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,440 capacities. I wonder if because you were 529 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480 talking about the pressure coming into this year off the 530 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,600 Olympic year, but you still throughout the season ran very, 531 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,960 very fast. I mean, outdoors in the 200 you 532 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,560 opened up with like, literally like a personal best and you 533 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,440 were running 10 sevens very consistently. 534 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,520 I wonder if you expected that maybe coming off, you know, what 535 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,920 you had done indoors, coming off what you had did last year, or 536 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,240 did you ever surprise yourself with, you know, the performances 537 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,200 through the year? I did, especially the 1st 200 of 538 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,240 the season. It's like sometimes a quota tell 539 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,600 you you're you're ready to run something, but then it'd be 540 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,720 like, am I really? Well, I think that was really 541 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,960 when I was surprised recurring 21, eight, my 1st 200 of the 542 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,800 season. I only ran like 2-2 hundreds 543 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,760 last year, which I was just talking about recently, and it 544 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,640 felt like I ran so many, so many 200, but just the three hundreds 545 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,600 and four hundreds. Maybe in practice I was 546 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,840 thinking, but I wasn't expecting to run 10/7 that consistently 547 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,800 throughout, throughout 2025 actually, but I knew that it was 548 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,960 somewhere in there. But I'm somebody I have to see 549 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,360 to believe it. And I saw it throughout the 550 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,880 time, throughout the time I was like running throughout this 551 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,360 year. But I think given the training 552 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,440 that I was doing during that time, I think I was such a 553 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840 stronger athlete as I was in the previous years. 554 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,640 So I think that the Ponge training really helped with me 555 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,320 being like very consistent running those fast times. 556 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,160 I'll say that. There was, I think it was the 557 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,520 last, the last race before world champs was I think the Zurich 558 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,320 Diamond League that you right, The Zurich Diamond League you 559 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040 ran at and you had taken like some time off to go train and 560 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,880 things like that. But you would run 10/7 and I 561 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,360 don't know, I don't know if you saw, but online people were like 562 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,400 it looked like you were chewing gum. 563 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,320 You crossed the line, you ran 10/7. 564 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,000 You were like chilling. Like, I don't know if you felt 565 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,760 as comfortable as like people looked at you like, whoa, she's 566 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,880 chilling. Like she's chilling. 567 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Yeah, So I chew down sometimes to help with just the outside 568 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,440 noise. I asked him to focus on because 569 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,320 like I said, the pressure, the pressure was getting to me at 570 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,840 one point in time, given that the news also came out that I 571 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,280 was hooked. And that was like, OK, so now I 572 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,680 took a break and I'm back in the spotlight Diamonique final. 573 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:40,160 And I was being asked questions during the the press conference 574 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,120 that I didn't really like. And I once said if I was 575 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,240 comfortable, because I'm never comfortable when it comes to 576 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,400 like racing. I'm always like on my A game. 577 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,880 I'm always like very focused. However, I think I'm really just 578 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,320 help me just remain focused. I'm just, you know, have 579 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,480 something to focus on instead of the outside noise that's 580 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,720 happening at the time. Got you, Got you. 581 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,800 OK, That that's that's really cool. 582 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,720 Again, people, people were like, oh, Julian is like just chilling 583 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,880 10/7 chewing gum. Relax. 584 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,360 Yeah, I mean, at that time I was like 25. 585 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,600 I was in the best shape of my life. 586 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,080 And it didn't end that way, unfortunately. 587 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,840 But I think that running 10/7 was just, it became a lot easier 588 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,520 for me to do given the training that I was actually doing. 589 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,640 But to stay comfortable, I'm always like sport focusing on my 590 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,520 A game whenever it's time for me to compete. 591 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,680 So I think it's almost disrespectful to like my other 592 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440 competitors seeing that I was comfortable. 593 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,680 And I just never want people to think that it's disrespectful. 594 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,520 It's like I'm not worried about it. 595 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,880 That's never the case because I'm always like super focused 596 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,960 and you know, working towards what I want. 597 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,080 So that was never the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes 598 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,320 sense. And and definitely like I at 599 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,680 least I can see that where I feel like you give the utmost 600 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,680 respect to your competitors, but you also, I feel like everyone 601 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,480 wants to be the best, but you're always like, you know, super, 602 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,040 super Quadro, which is good one. I guess just pointing on that 603 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,800 because like you said, there was news that came out, it was 604 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,320 incorrect information about you being injured and people are 605 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,360 asking and things like that. I wonder if going through that 606 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,960 experience and having, you know, to deal with the media having to 607 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,040 deal with all these different questions, if that was, I don't 608 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,920 know if test is the best word, but if that kind of like helped 609 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,639 to prepare you even going forward on how to deal with 610 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,199 being such a high profile athlete in a sport. 611 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,760 I will say so I am not somebody who's big on social media. 612 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,400 I'm, I'm going to be honest, if you like, I like to my, my own 613 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,760 business, I'll do my own thing. That's just how I am. 614 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,120 But I think having gone through that this year, it definitely 615 00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,920 prepares me for what's to come. I would say that and what to 616 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,680 expect, what not to expect from other people, especially those 617 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,200 who are online and who has definitely the most to say about 618 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,480 athletes especially and their performances. 619 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,760 So I'll definitely say this year prepared me for what to come, 620 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,760 knowing what to expect and what not to expect from the outside 621 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,720 world. I would say that. 622 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,280 The Sidious Mac Podcast is presented by Gnomeo Performance 623 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,560 from the inside out. 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But in a in a lot of those 715 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,520 races, and this is all due respect to like everyone, but 716 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,600 you were a lot of those races in a sense were like solo in the 717 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,120 sense that you were like very far ahead of the field at 718 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,080 certain points. But then there was a few other 719 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,000 races like the Prefontaine Classic or of course, like World 720 00:40:50,000 --> 00:41:00,320 Championships where you're going head to I wonder if you prefer 721 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,000 one of those situations, if you prefer to be like, all right, 722 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,400 I'm kind of the the top of the field and I can just like 723 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,760 execute or do you prefer that head to head being able to test 724 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,400 myself against the best all the time? 725 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 726 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 727 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,680 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to head 728 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,400 being able to test myself against the best all the time? 729 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 730 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 731 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,680 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to head 732 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,400 being able to test myself against the best all the time? 733 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 734 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 735 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 736 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 737 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 738 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 739 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 740 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 741 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 742 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 743 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 744 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 745 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 746 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 747 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 748 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 749 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 750 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 751 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 752 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 753 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 754 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 755 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 756 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 757 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 758 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 759 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 760 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 761 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 762 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 763 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 764 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 765 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 766 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 767 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 768 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 769 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 770 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 771 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 772 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 773 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 774 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 775 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 776 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 777 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 778 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 779 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 780 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 781 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 782 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 783 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 784 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 785 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 786 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 787 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 788 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 789 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 790 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 791 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 792 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 793 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 794 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 795 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 796 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 797 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 798 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 799 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 800 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 801 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 802 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 803 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 804 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 805 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 806 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 807 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 808 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 809 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 810 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 811 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 812 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 813 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 814 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 815 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 816 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 817 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 818 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 819 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 820 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 821 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 822 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 823 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 824 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 825 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 826 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 827 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 828 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 829 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 830 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 831 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 832 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 833 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 834 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 835 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 836 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 837 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 838 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 839 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 840 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 841 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 842 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 843 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 844 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 845 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 846 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 847 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 848 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 849 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 850 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 851 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 852 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 853 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 854 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 855 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 856 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 857 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 858 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 859 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 860 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 861 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 862 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 863 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040 I wonder if you prefer one of those situations, if you prefer 864 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,960 to be like, all right, I'm kind of the the top of the field and 865 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,454 I can just like execute or do you prefer that head to 866 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,480 I wonder why you were kind of on your own essentially like you're 867 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 saying, since February throughout indoors and outdoors. 868 00:41:08,452 --> 00:41:11,399 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 869 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 870 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 871 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 872 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 873 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 874 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 875 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 876 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 877 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 878 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 879 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 880 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 881 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 882 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 883 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 884 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 885 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 886 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 887 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 888 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 889 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 890 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 891 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 892 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time? 893 00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:11,400 head being able to test myself against the best all the time?