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All right, welcome to the cities
back podcast US as edition Chris

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Chavez and Kyle Merber here to 
recap all the action that took 

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place. 
We are live from New York City 

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rush back to my apartment in 
Brooklyn. 

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So actually let's let's start 
there. 

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First impressions US as comes to
New York crowds. 

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A little thinner to begin, but 
it's also a Thursday. 

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Well, Saturday, Sunday, we're 
going to have the New Balance 

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section going absolutely wild. 
We'll have packed section in the

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city of Smack New Balance area 
doing Bleacher creature. 

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Cheers. 
You won't be able to miss us. 

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We have Did you see the the 
shirts neon green? 

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They are loud and as needed 
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But, you know, it's a Thursday 
afternoon. 

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Like you, we knew what to 
expect. 

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I I say you got to judge New 
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Yeah, Yeah. 
The host. 

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Weather and conditions seem to 
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I mean, it was a great day for 
racing all things considered. 

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Icon can sometimes be a little 
too windy, but today looked 

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great. 
It was great. 

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It was perfect. 
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up for a run, there was like a a
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air. 
It was, it was nice. 

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I could have had a a light 
sweater, but it was comfortable.

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And in terms of wind, I don't 
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at 5:00 PM. 
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Randall's Island, it didn't 
smell like. 

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Poop. 
No, it was on the other side as 

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like, yeah, New Jersey, the. 
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No, the smell kind of kept to to
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So we're fortunate for now. 
I can say we survive. 

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So day one in the books, solid 
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like, like you said, the 
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kind of go along. 
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like there really isn't a whole 
lot to to say. 

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Men's hundred, literally, I 
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competing and five of them got 
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Yeah, tough for those five, but 
you know what, we got a glimpse.

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It's a good warm up. 
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You can't just start a meet like
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You got to ease yourself into it
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hundred, we got a little glimpse
and I think I, I, I got a little

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sense some people are looking 
pretty good. 

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Yeah, all right. 
So in each one of the heats, 

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Christian Coleman won the first 
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second heat. 
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Courtney Lindsay took the the 
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Lots of surprises. 
I mean, that's everything we 

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expected. 
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talked about like who the big 
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like obviously this is sizing up
to be Kenny versus Noah come the

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final, OK, Christian Coleman is.
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stride that must have been 90 
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stride. 
It was quite quick. 

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He was explosive today and you 
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I mean, his the way he got out 
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meters, it was not a prelim of 
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as if everyone was just 
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steady he practices. 
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Coleman has made his name on as 
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us. 
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He ran 996 but his legs are 
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His legs are under him. 
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necessarily be all no, like Noah
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Christian is starting to fire. 
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Noah's got it so easy. 
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But for Noah, I guess like we 
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muster up the storyline of he's 
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like 2 weeks doing all this 
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So treating today as a rust 
Buster and just going out and 

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coasting to 997. 
Good sign of things for him. 

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He's got like quite a lengthy 
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more during the meet because I 
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trading card thing on the side. 
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stands signing cards for for 
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championships. 
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kudos to Noah for like, really, 
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guys who like, is probably 
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to, to have a good showing here 
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he's someone who benefits from 
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So good to see him engaging 
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Yeah. 
Kenny look good. 

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Courtney Lindsay look good. 
So the BIG4 all through. 

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Yeah, no, no, again, no real 
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I look, Ronnie Baker did look 
good in his race behind Noah. 

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I thought Courtney probably 
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seen so far this season, but no 
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yet. 
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27 athletes competing and all of
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So literally it was just a 
public practice today for 

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everybody. 
It didn't matter if you ran the 

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fastest time of the day. 1090 by
Shakira Richardson looking 

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fantastic or if you ran 11/7 
which Paige Brady from BYU did 

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and as the last time of the day 
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into to the semi finals. 
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really strong. 
Great start. 

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I mean, we've seen already the 
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Yeah, Curious. 
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with her coach. 
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Did we learn anything? 
Just that she's, she's good 

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right now. 
I think like, well, so it was 

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more so we didn't learn anything
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No, no, not, not really. 
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Mitchell and yeah, it, it was, 
it wasn't like an interview or 

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anything like that, but more 
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Like we were talking about LA 
and all that kind of stuff. 

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I was more interested in just 
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he manages to keep his composure
handling like the biggest stars 

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and also the public pressure of,
you know, he's the coach who has

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to deliver a gold medal for the 
United States in those in that 

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marquee event. 
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I'm just, you know, at a dinner 
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So, all right, so Speaking of 
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moments, the 100 today, I mean 
the 1500 too, multiple 

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callbacks. 
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I had flashbacks of Bolt. 
I had flashbacks of the Fred 

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Curly block situation from a 
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the same. 
Blocks, yeah, I there's a lot of

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callbacks in these races. 
So the ability to stay composed,

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I mean, look, that's why we have
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Yeah, so everyone got, you know,
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in the women's hundred. 
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from everyone having cues next 
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thing is Kayla White 1098 
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We, I was pretty high in buying 
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the 200 that she ran a couple 
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she's dabbling in the, in the 
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good showing. 
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season continues and she's 
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absence of TG Terry due to 
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wouldn't only doing the 200 A 
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still in the in in the cards 
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So that was the hundred and then
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of the men's wear the top three 
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three fastest advance to the 
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So I mean, these were actually 
pretty fun races all things 

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considered, because the top five
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there there really isn't just 
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you can look at on the start 
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the clear favorite. 
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here, Ethan Strand's not here. 
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think puts it up for grabs a bit
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So let's go heat by heat 'cause 
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really entertaining. 
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times 344. 
Luke Houser powers through in 

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the final 100 meters to just get
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Did I tell you I took the I was 
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I took Metro North down waiting 
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Boss was very delayed called I 
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called an Uber, saw a couple 
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You're also looking like kind of
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like you guys want to hop a ride
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Oh wow. 
And I ran for his coach, so nice

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connection and. 
And so they had a good day today

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at the track because they got to
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the victory here to the three 
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Houser, Nick Plant, Leah Murphy 
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has made US teams before in 
indoors Nick plant though, Ben 

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Thomas guy. 
So there is some, some Ben 

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Thomas like Cole's not here but 
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Yeah, I mean. 
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upward 'cause he had, I think, a
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start to the season. 
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it would have been heat 1 and 
the fact that they let it go out

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in 210. 
So he has three heats, top three

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in each heat get through 
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times 210. 
Like this is one of those where 

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you just like scratch your head 
and look, we've all like been 

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that guy where you're like, I 
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we could have just run a 2O 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But the fact that like these 

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guys didn't get time qualifiers,
I mean, Waleed, Sam Simeon, 

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Burma, like Jackson Hook, like 
these guys looked like they were

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poised to make a final. 
But that 210 just threw it out 

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the window. 
And we've seen Luke so 

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consistently run really well in 
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And he looked really, really 
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Big run for Nick Plant after 
disappointing and said Blaze, he

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didn't make that final. 
Bounces back looked really 

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strong. 
So a good run for him. 

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And then Leah Murphy, no 
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through. 
He to another kicker's race and 

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the two time NCAA champion 
Nathan Green ends up getting it 

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just ahead of Gary Martin. 
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guess like had Sam Ellis like in
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then a protest was filed and he 
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So as a result, Wes Porter is 
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advances to the final. 
Yeah, I mean, look, Nathan 

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Green's really running well. 
We just saw it in Europe. 

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He's a guy who can win races. 
I was surprised not to see Gary 

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take it at some point just 
because we know Gary runs well 

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in fast races but was able to to
get through no problem. 

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I would say I'll, I'll let I'll 
hide my pick for one more heat 

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of who I think is going to win 
this thing. 

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I would think a lot of people 
right now are picking Nathan 

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Green to take it. 
Yeah, I think it you, I think 

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kind of called it beforehand 
that like it this could be a 

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good championships. 
It's setting up well and nicely 

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for an Andy Powell type to win. 
And so he did have a bunch of 

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guys advance so you can take 
your pick. 

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So then at that point it was 2 
for two for Andy Powell's 

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athletes. 
Well, Sam Pregel, but yeah. 

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Yeah, I'm just saying 22 for two
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I guess I was, you know, I think
on the preview pod I said Abel 

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Tefra would was a dark horse for
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He ends up just on the outside. 
Craig Engels doesn't make it 

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through. 
So some names did get eliminated

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today. 
And then that brings us to Heat 

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3, where again, it was tactical 
and Vinciotti comes away with a 

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victory. 
He's been running super well all

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season, so not a total shocker, 
but the the close by Joe Wascom,

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he could have honestly have 
taken it, but he knows. 

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I think that there's a whole 
the, the, the round that matters

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is coming. 
Up so the the Joe Wascom is my 

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pick to win. 
I think he's got it. 

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I think coming off of a 332, 
he's got his momentum. 

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He's made teams before. 
The thing that I saw though 

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today was the way he navigated 
that backstretch. 

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I mean, he weaved in and out 
multiple guys unnecessarily but.

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There's a pivot step in there. 
Yeah, like I you didn't have to 

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do that. 
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enough and comfortable enough 
and knew that he was able to do 

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that move that late in the race 
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And then the last 40 meters, I 
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ostrich, like it just all over 
the place. 

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good, he was comfortable. 
I think his legs are where he 

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needs to be. 
I think he's got the momentum. 

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I know he's coming out of this 
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feeling really good. 
That would be my pick. 

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NCAA indoor mile champion Carter
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third auto qualifier and then 
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all came out of this one. 
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and Eric Holt. 
Some feel goods there. 

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Reuben Rayna, I think he's still

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rocking the Washington singlet. 
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eligibility left. 
I've watched Reuben go with 

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moves or make moves all season 
long. 

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And just seemingly like on a few

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different occasions, it just 
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making a big move in at 
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whatever, like he's always game 
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And I, I feel like he just 
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and then. 
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before this I think like post 
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Getting Ireland, I think so, 
yeah. 

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stand out finding himself. 
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heard he was yelling in the mix 
zone. 

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Yeah, can't, can't shut New 
Yorkers up. 

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So. 
Holden five, yeah. 

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Holden 5 yeah, So the little 
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opportunities there all. 
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1500. 
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the. 
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was heat 1 where you've got 
Addie Wiley, who's won a Diamond

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League earlier this year, Emily 
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fantastic all season, Heather 
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used to making teams. 
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duking it out, I think in the 
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Makai was doing a lot of 
leading. 

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when when she takes the lead, 
she doesn't run slow. 

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I mean, look, four O 4 for the 
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It's it's a pretty honest prelim
in what is like in both the the 

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heats. 
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considering that the number of 
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through. 
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She knows that keep it honest. 
I thought it was a great run for

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Addie Wiley coming off. 
She's always doing a lot of work

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in lane 2. 
She does, she does this thing 

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where she doesn't commit to 
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the outside of lane 1 and it's 
just like it's just like just go

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around like take it. 
Probably running a little bit of

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extra distance, but was able to 
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I feel like this is your 
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We've just been waiting for that
this season. 

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It's clicking. 
She is just a gamer, always 

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shows up when it's time prelim 
so feel good. 

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Lindsay Butler miss out. 
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the Bandit unsponsored project 
and and that team has been doing

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a ton of fantastic storytelling 
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someone who you can use in a 
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Like we're always thinking who's
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do something, do something to 
disrupt. 

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Just sort of the expected kick 
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did that indoors and we probably
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the final, but ends up on just 
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qualifier. 
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qualifiers came out of this one 
where you had Otto's Wiley 

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Mackay, McClain, Hansen and then
Claire Stagall from the 

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University of Florida, where I 
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praises on this pod because of 
how well she ran at U 20s now 

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holding it down against, you 
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this one and and makes it 
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advances to the final. 
I want to. 

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Just I I said this on a podcast 
recently, I think before 

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Prefontaine. 
I hate when we announce athletes

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signing the day around meets. 
Yeah. 

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And Chloe Foster announcing 
today that she joined Nike 

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Swoosh. 
Someone who's fully capable of 

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being in that final. 
I I just don't like the 

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announcing right before big 
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It's too much pressure. 
It's too exciting, too much 

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dopamine. 
I'm out on it. 

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This is AI mean at some point 
for the lap count or something 

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like that, we're going to have 
to just do like a big case study

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of like how do athletes do in 
their first race post pro 

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announcement? 
It's either amazing or not 

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amazing. 
What's the No one just does OK? 

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What's the best one? 
I can't. 

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I can't. 
Like, we'll need to research 

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this for sure. 
I've heard people debut at the 

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trials, but it's a little 
different, yeah. 

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Often times I think the the most
difficult thing that I've heard,

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and I have friends who've been 
in this situation and it either 

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works out really well or it 
doesn't, is basically a company 

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between the semis and the 
finals. 

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Say you're unsponsored, they'll 
basically say, all right, if you

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make it, you get this contract. 
If you don't make it, you get 

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this contract. 
And I've seen it go both ways 

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and the numbers are 
significantly different. 

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And I'm just thinking like, wow,
I'm about to try to make an 

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Olympic team. 
Do I really have to like see the

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financial implications so. 
That's also on your agent. 

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Like do you relay that 
information to the person? 

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Well, I've also had, yeah, I 
know. 

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I've also had teammates who 
basically told their agent just 

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get me the best deal and just 
tell me what uniform to put on. 

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And just basically we're getting
didn't know details or anything 

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really. 
Just basically just got a new 

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uniform and it was just like 
trust, which I wouldn't always 

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do. 
That would stress me out on 

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like, what shoes am I going to 
wear tomorrow? 

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But then I guess like there's 
always the caveat of like they 

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let them. 
They let people wear whatever 

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you wore in college you're most 
comfortable with for a very 

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short period of time. 
All right. 

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But yeah, all right, do. 
You have a pick one. 

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Do you have a pick? 
Oh. 

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No, we haven't talked about he 
too. 

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Yeah, he too. 
To your point, which you brought

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up on the on the preview show is
like this field is going to look

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around and try and figure out 
what is Nikki going to do, 

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right? 
Like Nikki is the top dog. 

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And so they'll defer to just 
sort of where they'll be at. 

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And Nikki was just in the 
middle, like didn't go all the 

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way to the back, didn't go to 
the front, stayed in the middle,

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bided their time before 
ultimately I think going with 

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what, 500 to go. 
There was a really good move 

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here and I'm trying to remember 
who it was. 

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Gracie, it was Gracie. 
Oh yeah. 

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So Nikki came up on Gracie 
around a lap to go and Gracie 

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did not want to take the pace 
yet. 

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And Nikki just applied so much 
pressure on the outside of 

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Gracie that Gracie had to take 
the lead. 

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And Nikki was able to just slide
in and they just wrote it. 

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And I mean, Nikki could have won
this anyways, but it it was a 

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very nice tactical move to 
ultimately for someone else to 

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get the thing going. 
Yeah, and then from there, the 

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summer of the Brooks Beast 
continues. 

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They're so hot right now, yeah. 
It's. 

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So hot Who? 
Do we, I guess, like who was the

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obviously there's the Josh 
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think some credit to Brandon 
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lighting the fire that day in 
London. 

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Oh, I was going to give it to 
Duke Simmons. 

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OK. 
Really. 

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Yeah, I was going back a. 
Little further, but no, this was

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a breakout race for Tegan 
Scheinbecker, who local. 

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Yeah, not that far from here. 
Went to school at Ryder is now I

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believe in her second or third 
year as a pro with the Brooks 

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beast like with someone 
constantly racing at the Armory 

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and at these East Coast races. 
Sometimes I think just always 

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bopping back and forth between 
the 8 and the 15. 

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And so today to walk away from 
this one with a four O 4 

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personal best and US final, you 
know, birth. 

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Fantastic showing for, you know,
the Brooks beast once again and 

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for and for Tegan. 
So really was closing well in 

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the final 100 I would say. 
Something that I think to. 

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Pass some folks. 
Something I I think we'll see 

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more of the next few days 'cause
I I do believe the weather is 

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supposed to continue to be 
pretty favorable. 5 women got 

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PBS in a prelim at AUS 
Championship. 

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Yeah, pretty sweet like Carly 
Hanson, Kylie Finger, yeah. 

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So yeah, the others that got 
them from Heat 2, Taron Parks, 

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UNCUNC star, then Rachel 
MacArthur, who quietly just put 

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in a training stint out in 
France at the ASICS camp that 

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they have out there and then got
some racing in and I think ran 

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like a four O 3, so proving some
good fitness come championship 

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season. 
And then Jessica Kane was fifth 

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with a personal best of four O 
6. 

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But unfortunately for Gracie 
Morris, a lot of time in the 

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front and then just really tied 
up in the final, final stretch. 

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Yeah, I mean, look, Gracie had 
such a strong start to the year.

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The last couple out haven't been
everything, but it's still look 

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at the end of and the season's 
not over. 

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And obviously she closed out 
last season so well, but when 

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you look at the last year, the 
amount of progress that she's 

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made be like that's not going 
anywhere. 

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That fitness is still there. 
So really good performance for 

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the entire body of work. 
Not a good one today, but it's 

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in there, it's coming. 
Let's talk about the final 

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prediction. 
Prediction of how it goes. 

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Yeah, yeah, 'cause I think we're
picking the same winner. 

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But, you know, I look, I think 
Nikki is going to win, yes. 

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I don't think it's going to be 
easy. 

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No, who makes it tough? 
I think Emily. 

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Emily 100%. 
Emily's gotten enough reps 

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against Nikki at this point and 
the pre classic mile, I don't 

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think necessarily was the race 
that Emily wanted to to to run. 

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So that one obviously like 
worked in in Nikki's favor 

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because Nikki was able to get in
great position and react 

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accordingly. 
I think Emily found herself in 

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the front not ideal when Faith 
didn't go with the pace. 

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And so this time around, just 
sort of with a more dialed in 

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plan and less of those 
variables, I think like it 

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could, it could also play in 
Emily's favor too. 

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I don't know if we can make this
thing pretty damn close I would 

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say. 
I mean, remember indoors, I 

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think everyone kind of counted 
Emily out against Ellie and and 

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there, there she was. 
So I would say if I'm Nikki, I'm

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playing the hits, I'm weighing 
the last 100. 

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We know that Nikki can do it so 
many other ways, but I think 

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Emily is a very strong 1500 
runner and probably thinks her 

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best chance is to try to to 
really wind it up strong the 

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last 600 meters. 
You're saying 600? 

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I was definitely going to say at
least 400. 

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And if I'm Nikki, I just say 
let's let's like, give me your 

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best shot and let's see if you 
can do it. 

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And may the best one win the 
last 100. 

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Yeah. 
Other than that, I think we're 

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also, well, Addie Wiley could 
also end up being someone who 

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could disrupt things. 
Yeah, I think it is, 

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particularly if they do let it 
go slow. 

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Addie would be the one to go to 
the front. 

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I mean, Addie would probably be 
happy if it goes slow. 

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Yeah, he's got the best 800 time
out of all of them, right? 

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Yeah, I presume so. 
She won the diamond. 

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She won the diamond. 
Well, at least he had the most 

447
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,840
accomplished on paper in the 
800. 

448
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Definitely. 
So yeah, I think like your 

449
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,160
podium looks like some 
combination of Nikki, Emily, 

450
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,360
then Addie. 
No hot takes there. 

451
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,400
Unless Heather really, I think 
like if this ends up being 

452
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:17,600
anything close to A4 flat race, 
then it really is just Nikki and

453
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,040
Emily right now. 
Like right, we're looking at 

454
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,000
just sort of like some. 
Of the. 

455
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Athletes who have run seasons 
best today, yeah. 

456
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,320
So yeah, it's going to be a good
showdown. 

457
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,760
It's a when in our preview we're
talking about like which races 

458
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,760
were really good ones. 
This is one of the really good 

459
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000
ones. 
Nikki versus Emily, then Addie 

460
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,400
and Heather. 
I would throw their names in 

461
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,800
there, yeah. 
All right. 

462
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,200
So those were the 1500s, I guess
on the men's side, you said your

463
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,000
final prediction was? 
Joe Wascom. 

464
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,360
Wascom I'll take well, I think I
said Holden 5 right, but I might

465
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,600
go. 
It's only this is the second. 

466
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,800
Yeah, OK. 
This is the second. 

467
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,560
I might go. 
Nathan Green. 

468
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,720
Yeah. 
All right. 

469
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Then we had first round of the 
men's steeplechase. 

470
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,920
Again, this is 1 where it's like
not that many shockers. 

471
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,200
They did away with the first 
round of the women's 

472
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,360
steeplechase and so that's a 
straight final. 

473
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:26,320
And yeah, of the top guys in 
this one, Parker Stokes, another

474
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Brooks Beast victory on the day,
Bernard Keeter, Duncan Hamilton,

475
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,640
Nathan Mountain and Daniel 
Mikulski, that's like your your 

476
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,960
top five. 
And you'd expect those guys to 

477
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,360
make the final. 
Now, I guess like the one thing 

478
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:47,360
that we just have to talk about 
is once again, Kenneth Brooks. 

479
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,320
I know. 
Just looked rough. 

480
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,480
Didn't you make it 1200 with the
lead pack in this? 

481
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,520
One, it was the sort of thing 
where it's just like something's

482
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,880
not right. 
Like we got to get the iron 

483
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,000
checked. 
Granted. 

484
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,760
New father, correct? 
Yeah. 

485
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,200
Hey, maybe it was a tough week. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

486
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,640
So yeah, hopefully figured out 
if there's a year to to have a a

487
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,560
stinker at USA, this is a good 
one. 

488
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,160
But it's been 2 years. 
Yeah, hey, it's in there. 

489
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,600
I'm not. 
I'm not quitting. 

490
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:23,640
But yeah, I mean, look, there's 
a lot of depth right now in the 

491
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,280
men's steeple. 
I think outside of Kenneth, 

492
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,240
we're like really looking for 
our star of someone who could 

493
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,160
really show up on the 
international stage. 

494
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,560
Wilkinson has demonstrated a 
little bit on the Diamond Link 

495
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,320
circuit that it maybe could be 
him. 

496
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080
Today, though, he's just did 
exactly what he had to do. 

497
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,400
Yeah, yeah, that's true. 
Actually. 

498
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,480
That's why I didn't mention him 
before. 

499
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,240
It's because he's a bit buried 
in the overall results, the 

500
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640
compiled results, Wilkinson, 
Corrigan, who'd made the Olympic

501
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,960
team. 
He sneaks in with a little cue. 

502
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,800
And then Cooper Cothra is again,
I think like fresh into the 

503
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,880
steeple chase, a wild card and 
could be a wild card. 

504
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,800
We were saying this during the 
race that it was lost on us in 

505
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,480
our previewers noting like a 
1500 guys trying the steeple and

506
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,640
they remember like he's coached 
by Corey Leslie, who like went 

507
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,600
on the same exact path of him 
and made a really great career 

508
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040
out of it. 
So a little bit of wild card. 

509
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,760
I also thought Duncan Hamilton 
looked really strong today, took

510
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:28,040
some laps up front. 
So this There's no clear 

511
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,600
favorite here, no wide open. 
I might lean Parker Stokes just 

512
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,480
to the the Brooks Beast momentum
is really swaying me here. 

513
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,680
Yeah, that's fair. 
I think I'm going to go 

514
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Wilkinson just because I think 
he's been so consistently good. 

515
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Someone on his Strava, I think, 
like he was sick like today all 

516
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,080
week. 
Yeah, yeah. 

517
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,400
Oh, what do we have? 
We have two days rest. 

518
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,120
It's not tomorrow, No. 
So he'll be fine. 

519
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:03,120
OK, all right. 
And then it brings us to our 2 

520
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,960
finals on the track of the day. 
First one women's 10K final 

521
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,120
which was really slow at the 
very. 

522
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Beginning. 
I kind of loved it. 

523
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,120
It was. 
It was exactly what we thought 

524
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,080
would happen, but better. 
Yeah. 

525
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:26,560
So first 1K was 351. 
No, I mean, it was slower than 

526
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,120
that, but 351 up in the front 
for Sydney Vaught. 

527
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,560
And that's after she took the 
lead because the very beginning,

528
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,760
it was like Vanessa Fraser's 
like in the front looking around

529
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,720
me like no one wants to run. 
Today, I mean, the first lap was

530
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,640
99 seconds. 
That might be that. 

531
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,000
I've never heard of that. 
It was pretty awesome. 

532
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,320
And then it took them a little 
while to get going and then they

533
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,760
open it up and but. 1809 through
the 1st 5K. 

534
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,240
Yeah, hey, it's not about how 
you start, it's how you finish. 

535
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Not about time. 
Sydney bought recently 

536
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360
graduated, finished up at 
Arkansas. 

537
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,880
Yeah. 
So if if people are wondering 

538
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,520
like who is this? 
Like where did they come from? 

539
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,720
That's because previously raced 
is Sydney Thorbolton right So. 

540
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,720
She had she, I mean, look, won 
her first US title immediately 

541
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,960
after finishing up college. 
The thing that I so she's 

542
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920
finished 11th and 13th, I 
believe her highest finishes at 

543
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,200
Ensemble Cross. 
And we've seen her start to 

544
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,280
dabble on the roads a little 
bit. 

545
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:35,320
And today I I kind of got the 
vibe of like this in a in a few.

546
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,760
This might be laying the 
groundwork for a great Rd. racer

547
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,080
one day, yeah. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

548
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,720
I mean, we're seeing that 
already. 

549
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,160
I think like across the board of
like, I mean this year in 

550
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,360
particular, it's like we look at
this field and it's like 

551
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,400
obviously like the biggest names
are missing for a variety of 

552
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,720
different reasons. 
Like again, I think we brought 

553
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,560
it back to the fact that for 
World Championship qualifying 

554
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,280
purposes for next year, 
qualifying windows isn't even 

555
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,200
open. 
And also the you're not going to

556
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,280
run a fast time here. 
So there isn't a whole lot that 

557
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,240
you benefit from doing this. 
So I've I, I mean, from the 

558
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,400
people that were missing, I was 
like, why isn't like Emily 

559
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,280
Venters, who's on this hot 
streak on the roads here? 

560
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,520
And like, Sidney Vaught is kind 
of of that same archetype right 

561
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,760
now of just, you know, dabbling 
on the roads. 

562
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,080
And then at the same time, I 
mean, for today at least, like, 

563
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,640
she got back on the track. 
Katie Izzo, same exact thing. 

564
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,560
Like these two competed at 
Peachtree not that long ago. 

565
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,080
It's a transition, but I Sydney 
did run really well. 

566
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,840
At Peachtree was was the top 
American, Yeah. 

567
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,680
And so, yeah, I mean, it's, it's
like that you don't have to, was

568
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,920
it the Drew Hunter where it's 
like you don't have to commit to

569
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,120
one or another? 
Like you can do cross, you can 

570
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,120
do roads, you can do track. 
And I, I think that archetype 

571
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,840
of, of athletes who know that 
they're eventually going to be 

572
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,560
marathoners. 
We had a lot of those today, but

573
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,320
Katie did her absolute best to 
hang at the end. 

574
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,480
There was like a moment there 
where I thought maybe she could 

575
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,600
close the gap, but Sydney did 
just save that one last year. 

576
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,160
With like 600 to go where, like 
I don't think this race is over.

577
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,400
And then like with 400 to go 
where like actually I think 

578
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680
like, yeah, Sydney Vaught is 
going to hold on. 

579
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,360
So it it was just again, like 
one of our spin zones about 

580
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:25,000
having a USAS this year, given 
the context of it all is it's 

581
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,960
like, you know what? 
How many more people now are 

582
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040
aware of Sydney, what she's 
capable of, what she looks like 

583
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,400
You can watch across the finish 
line. 

584
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,760
Her, Katie and Allie were all 
like pumped after. 

585
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,880
Yeah, sometimes. 
What is it? 

586
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,840
Is there bonuses in contract in 
the top three? 

587
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,400
Definitely, yeah, there's, 
there's they made money. 

588
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,160
It's $8800 for the win, a 
standard contract bonus. 

589
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,240
This is the most money some of 
these women in this field will. 

590
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Win the US championship is 
easily 10 grand in the most 

591
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,040
contract like Mac, right like 
that. 

592
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,280
That's like the the very the 
some maybe more like it's you're

593
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,040
making money and you're getting 
Instagram posts and we're 

594
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,120
talking about you. 
We just watch you for 30 

595
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,840
minutes. 
Like now you're on everyone's 

596
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,679
radar. 
And so I think it's a good 

597
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,840
exposure and we had fun watching
99 seconds. 

598
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,560
That's a memorable race. 
We're going to be talking about 

599
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,159
that for a while. 
Well, and I think like because 

600
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:25,960
at some point, like you could go
the other way, right? 

601
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,440
And and totally think like I 
don't think they should have the

602
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,159
10K at USA. 
It's like on a in an off year. 

603
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Yeah, I mean. 
There's a, there's an argument, 

604
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,239
yeah. 
And also, yeah. 

605
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,000
You can make an argument, yeah, 
making a road race, mass road 

606
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,760
race, 10K in Central Park 
tomorrow morning instead of 

607
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,800
this. 
Oh, and to yeah, to award the 

608
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,760
the national title, well, I 
think that would be the 10K. 

609
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,920
We do already have that. 
We also have the 8K, the seven 

610
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:03,000
K, the 6K, the 5K. 11K12K13K 
yeah. 

611
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,720
So I don't know, it still ended 
up being, you know, a of race 

612
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,840
that puts her on the map. 
Shout out to all the 10K 

613
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,360
athletes who came out and ran in
the heat. 

614
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,280
Yep, all 15 of you. 
All right, let's then take this 

615
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,280
to the men's 10K, which was the 
most exciting finish of the day.

616
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,640
Yeah, because we're watching it 
and we're seeing, what was it, 

617
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:34,320
246 for the 1st 800 meters, and 
then five, what, 515 for the 1st

618
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,640
1600? 
Yeah, and. 

619
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,160
So we're like, I mean. 
We made a graphic for how slow 

620
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,160
the first lap for the women 
were. 

621
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,600
Like we'll make a graphic for 
how slow the 1st 800 for the men

622
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,400
were. 246 is incredible. 
Yeah. 

623
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:56,520
Yeah, I mean, Vincent Mowry runs
40 miles a day at that pace and 

624
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,240
then does it again. 
Yeah, it takes 15 seconds rest 

625
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,960
and does it again. 
Which today was announced that 

626
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,320
he's running the Chicago 
Marathon this fall so. 

627
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,600
Oh really? 
Yeah. 

628
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,600
Oh hell yeah. 
He's going to run 159 and then 

629
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,160
take 15 seconds rest and do it 
again. 

630
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,480
I know we're sidetracking, but I
am his biggest fan. 

631
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:24,040
I think I send his. 
I think I send his Java to the 

632
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,480
group chat every single day. 
I mean, quick tangent for sure, 

633
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:34,680
but we any time there's been a 
Vincent Mowry the the treadmill 

634
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,440
video or a follow up post about 
like, you know, him running 30 

635
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,160
miles on for his Sunday long run
or something like that. 

636
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,560
That's that comes from Kyle 
because I'm sure you have him 

637
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,160
like started as a favorite you 
get. 

638
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,880
To know I'm like, guys, you'll 
not believe. 

639
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040
You, Vincent Mowry, just 
finished a run and then like, 

640
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,000
Kyle opens up his phone and then
sees like, oh, there it is, 20 

641
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,440
miles with, you know, one minute
rest and then by 4. 

642
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,040
It's the best thing out there 
right now. 

643
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,520
All right, Chicago. 
Awesome. 

644
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,240
Yeah, so it's Charles Hicks 
versus the Mad Men, Vincent 

645
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,160
Mallory. 
Two very different approaches. 

646
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,320
And Clayton Young's in it as 
well. 

647
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,480
So it's like you've got Clayton 
Young like the most dialed in, 

648
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,200
like every, everything's 
measured with him. 

649
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,560
He's got 7 different gadgets 
measuring. 

650
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,400
He's wearing cadence, all that 
stuff. 

651
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:26,320
Wraps around his arm, whatever 
it is, and then every Chamber of

652
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,040
his heart giving independent 
level of beat. 

653
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Yeah, and then you've got 
Vincent Mowry, who's at Planet 

654
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Fitness just absolutely making 
that employee's life hell with 

655
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,520
with with just like the pounding
of his ASIC shoes on his on the 

656
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,120
on the treadmill. 
So yeah, it's going to be great.

657
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,600
It's going to be fantastic. 
I wish Vincent Mowry was in. 

658
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,880
This race, dude, I'll tell you 
what, we're not going out in 246

659
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,320
if my boy Vincent's in this 
race. 

660
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,600
So he's going to sit out in 236,
waiting 10 seconds, doing 

661
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,360
another 800. 
Would have been the perfect race

662
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,600
for him, but no. 
So this thing was just like 

663
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,440
these guys are bidding their 
time. 

664
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:17,240
They go through the 1st 5K in 
16-13 and then from there. 

665
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,840
Give some shout outs to some of 
our early race leaders. 

666
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,600
Chandler Gibbons took it on. 
OK, Evan Bishop took it on. 

667
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,560
Everyone in the. 
Field took it on everyone. 

668
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,760
In the field, took a lap. 
They took a blood oath before 

669
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,040
the race started and they said 
everyone has to do at least one.

670
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,120
And then Woody Kincaid said. 
I'll take the last. 

671
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,440
Yeah. 
But yeah, so then at some point,

672
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,040
I think, what, 20 minutes into 
this race, that's when Grant 

673
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,400
Fisher goes to the front and 
then starts to pull, which he 

674
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,400
took with him Woody Kincaid and 
Drew Bosley, who we expected to 

675
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,520
be the other contenders in this 
one. 

676
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,360
And then the problem is you just
can't leave Woody in contention 

677
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,680
for all that long. 
I mean, how many times are we 

678
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,240
all going to fall for this? 
Yeah, well, Grant's pulled for 

679
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:07,560
it several times and he's only, 
I guess it's, I guess David 

680
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,200
pulled it up and it's like 
Grant's only got 3 national 

681
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,920
titles on the track and Woody, I
think at this point is I, I 

682
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,520
don't know, like can you pull it
up to see how many he's got? 

683
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,400
But. 
I would just ask you generally 

684
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,680
be how I pull things. 
Yeah, my track GPT mind. 

685
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:28,040
But I mean Woody, all right, so 
Woody is in solid shape coming 

686
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,200
in. 
We know that he ran 2720 earlier

687
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,320
in the season. 
He, you know, ran 1312. 

688
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,160
It it's he's in good shape, but 
he's not in crazy shape, but 

689
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,080
he's in good enough shape that I
don't want to leave get to the 

690
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,800
last 400 with him because he 
just always finds it somehow. 

691
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,360
He closed in 50. 
He closed in 54 seconds. 2595 

692
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,680
for the last 200. 
He just has like it. 

693
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,400
He's he has this ability to tap 
into like a completely different

694
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,080
system and he just goes like X 
Games. 

695
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,720
Mode so now you just it what he 
Kincaid has now tied Grant 

696
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:09,800
Fisher for the same amount of 
national titles on the track 3 

697
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,520
and this is Woody's actually 
third US title. 

698
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,920
They've all come in the 10 K 
20/21/2023 and now 2026, the 

699
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,000
winning times of each of those 
races. 

700
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,640
They've only gotten this is the 
slowest one of the bunch, 2753 

701
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:32,200
at the trials, 2823 at the 2023 
championships, and then today 

702
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,320
30/30/13 for the win. 
So if Woody wins the 10K in two 

703
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,400
years, expected to be even 
slower and it'll be 32 minutes, 

704
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,000
Yeah. 
So the thing that's so exciting 

705
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160
about this is that they're both 
entered in the 5K. 

706
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,240
Oh yeah. 
Which now, if you're Grant 

707
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,040
Fisher. 
Flashbacks in Miami. 

708
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,760
Yeah, you don't. 
You just don't let it happen 

709
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,040
again. 
It's that messy meme where it's 

710
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,040
like, I think Jude. 
Belt Oh, you don't piss him off?

711
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,720
Yeah, you don't piss him off 
'cause now he's going to do 

712
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,160
something crazy in this 5K. 
Yeah. 

713
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,560
So, and the interesting thing 
about the 5K, which we think we 

714
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,600
noted previously is that there 
are going to be some 1500 guys 

715
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,920
potentially doubling back up. 
I think I think Grant, Gary 

716
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:21,200
Martin, I I would put money down
that that last mile is sub for 

717
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,160
in that five Ki think he's going
to pull so hard with a mile to 

718
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,240
go. 
And The thing is with with Grant

719
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:31,640
is that he's able to do this at 
times, like at trials. 

720
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,400
I think we've seen him in the 
past, like if he wants to make 

721
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,360
the race hard and he's going to 
be the only person going for 

722
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,560
like going for it. 
It's worked in the past a couple

723
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,280
times, Yeah, not all the time, 
because sometimes Woody's just 

724
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,560
been left in contention and he's
got it done. 

725
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,000
So the Wood man with his third 
US title in the 10K. 

726
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,160
So the podium was Woody Grant, 
Drew Bosley, which was all, I 

727
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,880
think kind of how many people 
expected this one to go. 

728
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,240
All right, So looking ahead to 
tomorrow on the track, the 

729
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:10,120
finals that we've got are the 
women's hundred, men's hundred. 

730
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:16,320
And I guess like it's Friday 
night in New York City, your 

731
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,880
opportunity to go and see 
Shakira Richardson and O Lyles 

732
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,680
in action give me a good time. 
They're selling beer at the 

733
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,040
track. 
That, yeah, good development, 

734
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,120
long line. 
So Friday night sounds like a 

735
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,360
good night. 
Good start. 

736
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Yeah. 
And then we got some 800 

737
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,000
prelims. 
Which this will be interesting, 

738
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,760
right? 
If aren't, is Nikki Nikki's 

739
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,360
entered in the? 
That's a that's seeing who comes

740
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,720
back was that was that an 
insurance policy in case 

741
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:55,720
something happens in the 1500, I
think Addie is also entered in 

742
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,280
the 800. 
Yeah. 

743
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,160
So it's like, all right, who's 
actually showing up and trying 

744
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,200
to double and who's just doing 
it just in case of trip and fall

745
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,680
happened. 
All right, well, we will find 

746
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,160
all of that out tomorrow, but 
that is day one of the 2026 

747
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,760
USATF Outdoor Championships in 
the books. 

748
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,080
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749
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750
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,600
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751
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,080
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752
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753
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,080
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754
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,960
Got group run tomorrow morning 
with. 

755
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Yeah, if you're, if you're 
listening to this sometime 

756
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:44,520
between 9:00 PM and 7:00 AM 
Eastern Time and you're in the 

757
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,760
tri-state area and want to make 
your way over to the New Balance

758
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,680
tour on the Upper West Side. 
Well, like you don't have much 

759
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,520
time. 
Get some good rest and we'll see

760
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,120
you in the morning for some easy
miles. 

761
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,320
And then from there, yeah, one 
more day to wait before the we 

762
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,240
unleash the Sidious mag and New 
Balance faithful out at icon. 

763
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,720
Because I'm really excited for 
what that cheers on is going to 

764
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:09,800
look like. 
We're just going to look like 

765
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,760
this green mob in the stand and 
it's going to be great. 

766
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,840
So that does it. 
I've been Chris Chavez with Kyle

767
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,440
Merber. 
We'll see you guys tomorrow.

