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It is August 24th. 
Welcome back to the City's Back 

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podcast. 
I'm Chris Chavez. 

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I'm Carl Merber. 
And I'm preet Majestia. 

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And this week, in track and 
field, we had a world record get

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set. 
Yomuf Kajalja runs 5651 in 

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Buenos Aires to take the half 
marathon world record back from 

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Jacob Kaplimo. 
Then in Celestia. 

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Ethan Strand went from 11th to 
1st by the time he hit the 

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finish line to win his first 
Diamond League 1500 meter beats.

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Cole Hacker and Jacob 
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World Athletics then also 
decided Budapest needed both 

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Jacob and Josh Kerr so badly 
that they broke their own invite

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rule and expanded the field to 
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Then we had Rye Benjamin finally
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403. 
Americans broke 13 in Lausanne 

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and none of them won the race, 
but still a great showing. 

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We got another Audrey Weiro 
versus Femko bull clash and a 

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robot in Beijing ran 932. 
So lots to unpack here. 

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Pre you successfully did the 
Lausanne to Celestia double but 

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it very funny turn of events to 
get you from one meet to the 

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next. 
Why don't you share with the 

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listeners how everything 
unfolded? 

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Yeah. 
So yeah, obviously it's a very 

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tight turn around. 
La Zam's Friday night, Celestia 

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was on Sunday, the there was a 
city meet with a bunch of field 

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defence on Saturday afternoon. 
The press conference was in fact

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Saturday morning. 
I had a flight booked and it's a

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quite small town in Poland. 
It's not, it's not a big, big 

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town, so the airport's quite 
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There isn't that much demand for
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so it was all in direct flights.
I booked a flight back in March 

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or April and I at midnight last 
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I went to midnight on the Friday
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After the meet I went to check 
into my flight and I couldn't 

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find any messages about it. 
And then I discovered an e-mail 

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that had been sent at the end of
April saying your flight details

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have changed and normally that 
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about 5 minutes or something. 
In this case I opened up the 

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e-mail your flight has been 
cancelled. 

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Here are your options, get a 
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And this is obviously I'm due to
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it's 10 hours before I'm due to 
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And I'm like, what on earth do I
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And I tried to look for it for 
other flights and some of the 

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other guys who were there with 
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via Warsaw. 
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flight to Katowice was booked 
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So I'd have had to take a late 
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I probably wouldn't have got 
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something. 
It'd be an absolute nightmare. 

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And then we were in the Meat 
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And so I went out to the kind 
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desk in the thing and there's no
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It was past midnight, there was 
no one there, but there was a 

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board with a list of all the 
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Though they, what they've done 
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athletes and coaches going from 
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on a chartered flight. 
So, and they had a list of all 

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the athletes going on this 
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And then they had if you have 
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any changes or anything, message
this guy on, on this number. 

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So I literally WhatsApp this guy
at midnight and he responds with

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about 5, you know, ask him, is 
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happened. 
Is there any chance I can get on

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this flight? 
And he was like, yeah, sure, no 

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problem. 
And I was like, all right, then 

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here we go. 
And so I ended up on a charter 

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flight with all the athletes, 
coaches, agents going from going

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from Lausanne to Celestia, which
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And. 
Who'd you sit next to you? 

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Yeah, it's like that meme, you 
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seat options, like who you want 
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To I So it was a 55 people on 
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It was 180 seater plates. 
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sadly there was no sitting next 
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But you're like, you're like, 
you pick still like. 

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Everyone in every. 
Entire row and you're like, 

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well, obviously I want to talk 
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Yeah, so, well, nonetheless, the
the funniest thing that happens 

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is the Diamond League media team
were there and then when we got 

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off the plane, they were trying 
to capture these glamorous shots

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of athletes coming off the 
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And I was kind of behind Lika 
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And so they, they had all these 
photos of Lika Klava coming off 

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the plane. 
And then we're in the bus on the

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way to the on the way to the to 
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And I can see the guy trying to 
edit the photos. 

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And basically there I am in the 
background of all these photos 

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and he desperately tried to edit
me out or find an angle that 

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doesn't include me. 
You. 

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Should have been as dishevelled 
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I was pretty dishevelled. 
I mean, yeah, this was, I'd not 

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had much sleep and. 
If they can hear this I want I 

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want to see those photos. 
I love the idea Preet of like a 

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few years ago to now this 
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on in athletics of like now 
you're on private jets with the 

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best athletes in the world like.
This was not the private jets. 

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It was it was a very normal 
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The the, the, the there was like
a safety card and a menu card in

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the seat back pocket that were 
stuck together by a piece of 

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chewing gum. 
So I won't say it was the most 

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fancy of accommodations, but 
obviously get a direct flight 

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with the whole race to yourself 
is nothing to complain about. 

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You never thought that showing 
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in Budapest three years ago 
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Absolutely not. 
Pre I did this double a couple 

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years ago when I I went from Los
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And they didn't do a chartered 
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being like, I wonder, like of 
all these athletes, who's going 

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to get the front seat? 
Like everyone probably had the 

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highest level of status. 
And I do remember Mondo that he 

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had. 
It was, I think it was 1A, which

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made sense. 
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Yeah. 
And then I wandered into the 

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hotel actually, and I went up 
and basically there were two 

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meat hotels as well. 
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which looked a lot fancier. 
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which was a Novotel. 
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limited number of athletes plus 
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Diamond League people staying in
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And then I, I went in there and 
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asked where the toilet was. 
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which was kind of an athlete 
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massage centre and the kind of 
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You're like, don't mind if I do.
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Mondo having a nice little chat,
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they had an espresso bar for the
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And to be honest, like they were
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Celestia. 
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credit like as a Diamond League 
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go to for everyone, not just 
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everyone. 
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my personal experience of it. 
They were just so accommodating,

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like nothing was too much 
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I needed to leave my bags there 
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hotel I was not staying in. 
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like the Porter took them. 
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lady recognised me straight away
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collect your bags, here you go. 
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they were amazing, like the 
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that I think that they got into 
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have to give them a lot of 
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And the meat as a whole, you 
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Was was really good in? 
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The rise of the Celestia Diamond
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because it is just like not that
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and it's a great meet and it's. 
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I saw that that was like the 
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And they made, I mean it's a 
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60,000 seater stadium. 
But it made it, it felt full. 

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And the cunning thing is they 
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before the main meet so the 
stadium was full from like 2 

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hours before the main meat. 
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entire day was a BMX bike doing 
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Polish All Star team which 
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Levandowski, who's one of the 
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few years retired, putting on a 
speed St. brave move to run this

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mix 4 by 1 against the the bike 
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It was, I didn't think that 
pitch meeting went when they 

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were like let's let's do a 
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And then some other guy said I 
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hurdles race. 
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So he did. 
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record 2 years ago at that meet,
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He actually they did a ramp. 
They set up a ramp and had him 

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go over the 6:32. 
Polvo, Really. 

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Yeah. 
There's a video on YouTube of 

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it. 
It's brilliant, absolutely 

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brilliant. 
So yeah, yeah, they're, they're,

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they're obviously doing lots of 
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the way they integrate their 
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they had stands for all their 
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They had a Bukuyeka stand and a 
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that for all the top athletes. 
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And then after each of their 
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in their stands, like greeting 
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or whatever they were doing. 
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they, they set it up really well
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everything they had there. 
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impressed. 
So of the Europe diamond 

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leagues, how many have you 
checked off and when do we get 

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the pre power rankings of what 
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I mean, it sounds like 
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You. 
I think I have done all of them 

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now. 
I think I've done all the 

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European ones now. 
Because Les are Monaco. 

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No, sorry. 
Monaco is the only one sorry 

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that I have not done. 
Yes, that is the only one I have

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done. 
I've done all the others now. 

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And so who's at the top right 
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Well, depends. 
On actually you don't. 

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Don't spoil it. 
Maybe you? 

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Yeah, we'll do it. 
Yeah, we can. 

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No, I mean it also it depends 
what perspective you take, 

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right? 
Is it from a media perspective 

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or from a kind of we? 
Need you to come up with like 

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your criteria of like all the 
different things same way 

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Simmons had all this criteria 
for ranking you know sports for 

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parents. 
You're going to have to take 

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into account the food, the mix 
zone, the Media Tribune access 

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from I. 
Will tell. 

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I will tell you that Masai 
Russell has not forgiven Satya's

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mag for her place in the power 
rankings because she mentioned 

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it very specifically in the 
interview I did with her in 

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Lausanne was like, you better be
putting me somewhere higher on 

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those power rankings now all. 
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Well, round two of Kyle's power 
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Don't say Kyle's power rankings.
It was my idea to do the power 

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rankings. 
It was it was by committee and 

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maybe this time I'll actually 
vote. 

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I was the one who didn't submit 
about the first time around. 

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But yeah, all right, Preet, 
start thinking about your 

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Diamond League power rankings 
now that you've been to all of 

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them but Monaco. 
Next year, we'll put Monaco on 

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your on your agenda. 
All right, let's get into the 

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action that took place over the 
last week. 

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And I guess we should start off 
with a world record. 

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Yomi Kagelchi goes 5651 at the 
Medio Marathon de Ciudad de 

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Buenos Aires on Sunday, cutting 
29 seconds off of Jacob 

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Piupulimo's 5720 from Lisbon in 
March, which has not been 

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ratified yet. 
Right, Preet? 

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Like that one, the Lisbon half 
hasn't been yet. 

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I, I heard something about that,
but then I did see World 

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Athletics kind of posting. 
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because it didn't say whether it
was or not, but I hadn't I 

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haven't seen that one also have 
been ratified yet either. 

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Could you? 
I mean, could Blimmo not getting

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half marathon world records 
ratified 2 times would be pretty

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ridiculous. 
But so this isn't the fastest 

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half marathon ever. 
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Kaplima had the car in front of 
him, he did go a little faster 

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than Kajalja did this past 
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But if we're going by the 
official records, then this is 

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the second time that Kajalja's 
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he ran 5730 back in 2024. 
The splits are pretty funny here

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because he goes 1345 through 5 
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he's 19 seconds off of the world
record pace. 

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And then he turns it on and he 
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segment and then he hits 15K and
4041. 

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Eleven seconds up on Kiplimo 20K
and 54 O 4 and then 2645 for the

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that second 10K. 
So he closed the final K in 232.

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And if you watch the video that 
I tweeted out, it's blown up. 

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It's gotten I think like 5 
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that. 
He was kicking and then at the 

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end does like in his celebration
was just jumping for joy. 

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So now he's sitting fourth all 
time in the five K, 7th in the 

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10K, first in the half, second 
in the marathon, the greatest 

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range I think we've ever seen in
track and field. 

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And so the big take away from 
this is I think like at this 

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point you're just setting up the
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Valencia will happen 15930. 
It all depends on the weather, 

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but that's just sort of like 
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is doing. 
Kyle, what did you think of this

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one? 
I mean. 

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What can't he do? 
And I wish that he was racing 

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before Valencia because he's 
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And I mean, ultimately, you're 
probably not even really in your

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marathon training block yet. 
If you're a Kajalka. 

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It's not like, oh, you're going 
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December. 
I don't think we're 20 weeks out

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yet or anything. 
I don't 16 Yeah, I don't I don't

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know if Kajalka is like a two 
week off guy, but this might 

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have been circled on his 
calendar as like the race in the

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build up, but like take some 
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But it's like, man, what what is
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And I like it's a long time now 
to be getting excited from it, 

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but it's that's the battle of 
him versus John career. 

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And we know London's a fast 
course, but like, we seriously 

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know that Valencia is a fast 
course. 

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And now with, like, the 
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before, I hate, like, putting 
that expectation out that like, 

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oh, yeah. 
Like, he of course has to break 

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marathon world record, but like,
all signs are pointing to him 

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destroying it. 
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So it's really exciting. 
I don't know. 

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I love it. 
Great, good to finally see 

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Kajalcher win a race. 
Absolutely. 

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I mean, yeah, I, I didn't get 
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even say anything about it 
because I was literally arrived 

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in the stadium when when the 
tweet came in and I saw, I saw 

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it happened and I was like, what
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And then, yeah, I had to kind of
turn my attention to my many 

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interviews that afternoon, but. 
Congrats on the PR by the way. 

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So you and the Gelter said PR's 
this weekend. 

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You said a PR for most 
interviews it recorded at a 

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single Diamond League. 
Maybe some are saying world 

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best. 
The funniest thing, Oh, I should

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have taken a photo. 
They had literally all the world

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record and world best signs 
right near the mix. 

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So they had a world best sign. 
I don't know what it was for, 

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but they had a world best sign 
so. 

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It was. 
You know I should have. 

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Taken the usual subject to the 
usual ratification process 

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though for you go on and jump 
the gun and assume that you got 

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the world best, yes? 
We need pre to pee in a cup yeah

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all right so I mean Kojelcha 
running 5651 incredible 

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performance and I just yeah to 
Kyle's point wish we will see 

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him way before December feels 
like a long way off He he he's 

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just so well loved in these 
Spanish speaking countries in 

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Spain. 
He works really closely with 

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Santa Madre who produces like 
the gels and all that stuff that

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his his fueling company. 
And so immediately after London,

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I think they took him to the 
Adidas headquarters. 

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And then from there he went to 
Spain and he did a lot of, he 

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was on Spanish like late night 
television. 

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And then this time around he 
goes to Argentina. 

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They were treating him to a 
soccer game. 

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His jersey had 5651 on the back 
of it. 

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So yeah, I mean, Kajalcha Global
Superstar at this point. 

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And so I'm honestly waiting, I 
guess, for when the US will get 

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a chance to have him race here 
again 'cause it feels like it's 

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been since probably like a 
Milrose Games or BU the last 

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time that he raced on US soil. 
But yeah, tremendous talent and 

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super excited, super excited for
him. 

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All right, let's get into the 
diamond leagues. 

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We had two of them. 
We'll work our way backwards. 

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I want to start with Celestia 
and we're going to go to the 

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men's 1500 because it was billed
as Hawker versus Ingebritsen, 

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their first 1500 meeting in 
nearly two years. 

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But it was Ethan Strand who 
steals the show wins in 330 

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going from 11th at 800 meters 
all the way to winning by the 

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time the finish line hitting the
finish line. 

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Fanwell Kovich was second three 
3114 Cole Hacker 3rd 331 in his 

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first race in a while. 
Was it has it been like what, 7 

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weeks or something like that 
since Cole raced and then Yaka 

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Binga Brits in fourth and 331.19
the split for the nerds 150.4 

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last 854.3 last lap, 26 four 
last 200 which you can split 

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down to 13 two and 13 two. 
For Ethan Strand, so it was it 

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was a really, really fun race to
watch and Ethan just kind of 

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took the option of running a 
little bit more distance in lane

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2 and giving himself extra room 
to run because you could have 

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ended up in the situation where 
you did what Cole Hawker did, 

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which was run from the front for
most of it. 

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Then he did kind of move back 
because other guys like Jacob 

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and Isaac Nader pressed to the 
front with a lap to go and then 

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Hawker gets a little boxed in. 
But Ethan just had I think a bit

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more room running from the 
outside and was able to avoid 

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any sort of trouble and close 
hard. 

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So what impressed you from this 
one, Kyle, in terms of Ethan's 

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race execution and in a way, 
like Cole and Jacob getting 

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boxed in kind of disrupted their
final 200? 

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Yeah, Ethan just kind of felt 
invisible for much of the race, 

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which is what you want. 
He was able to avoid some 

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trouble, right? 
Like we saw a couple guys go 

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down, but then that last 
hundred, it was just like all 

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the strength that we've seen 
before, like that 3K strength 

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that we know he has just, he 
just had a clear line and I just

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think he, he just executed 
perfectly. 

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I I was joking that he's 
undefeated since he became the 

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2025 US champion. 
So the guy in the comment 

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section didn't get the joke. 
Didn't get the joke, yeah, but 

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the thing that I kind of. 
Loved is it's like. 

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I don't feel like he was that 
surprised, right? 

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Like, I don't know, I feel like 
he he he starting to feel like 

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he deserves to be in these 
conversations a little bit more.

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And I think he's right. 
Obviously it wasn't a 327 race. 

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And you know what, I'd love to 
see him do that eventually. 

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But at this point, like if 
you're like, look at the field, 

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this was arguably the best 1500 
field we've seen the entire 

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year. 
And it wasn't the guys that we 

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thought were going to do it. 
So I hope he sticks in the 1500 

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a little bit longer because he's
got some serious wheels as we've

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seen that last 100 he's. 
Yeah, I guess the biggest 

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storyline looking at the names 
in this field, it was like this 

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is the second-half of the season
bunch right, Like which for for 

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so many guys. 
Jakob hadn't raced at 1500 up 

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until today this race. 
Cole had this big long layoff 

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since the pre classic Fanwell 
Kovic is kind of easing his way 

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back into training and he made 
some some moves as well. 

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It was anyone's race I think 
going into to that final lap and

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I think that that that's the 
state of the 1500 right now. 

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There's obviously Josh Kerr 
who's hell of fit as we've seen 

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in London and at the 
Commonwealth Games. 

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But how does that translate into
a Diamond League race where you 

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have, what was this? 
This was like 15 different 

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competitors around you. 
Huge field. 

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What we're going to find out in 
just a couple weeks with 

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actually, there's no pacemaker 
at the World Ultimate 

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Championships. 
But again, last year we were 

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treated to so many people 
running under 330 and this year 

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we've just been treated to more 
consistently thrilling races 

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across the board where the time,
forget the time like anyone is 

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going into these races thinking 
they can win. 

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There's a moment where I'm 
thinking, oh, that's the world 

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champion that we saw last year. 
Isaac Nader was it was in it and

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then he fades badly, ends up in 
in 9th place. 

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But for the most part, people 
are coming around at the right 

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time. 
Pre What did what stood out to 

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you from your conversation with 
Ethan Strand afterwards? 

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Well, it was interesting. 
He was actually disappointed in 

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his positioning, Right? 
He was. 

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He was thinking that, you know, 
he left his move a little bit 

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too late. 
He wasn't engaged further up the

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field. 
But what is interesting is you 

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had Jacob and Cole, who both 
then got boxed at the wrong 

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moment because Yakob went to the
front after, you know, at around

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9900. 
And Cole kind of got shuffled 

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back between sort of 400 and 300
to go. 

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And, and both of them were kind 
of like, you know, it wasn't, 

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you know, they, they did get 
boxed in a little bit, but 

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Ethan, obviously, because he was
at the back, he was able to get 

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himself out, move out into lane 
whatever lane 2, lane 3 and, 

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and, and go for it. 
And we know his kick kick is 

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devastating. 
They were close enough together 

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for that to be effective in in 
this race. 

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And he's shown that through his 
NCAA years and he's shown that 

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it works on the on the 
professional stage as well in 

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the right race. 
So, yes, you might say he might 

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need to be a bit further up in 
kind of more championship races 

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that are, you know, at the sharp
end of the season. 

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But this was this was very 
impressive and people are going 

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to look out for him now. 
All right, Ethan Strand, Diamond

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League winner. 
How's it feel? 

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Feels good, especially after the
indoor season. 

446
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,440
I had to come out and actually 
make this outdoor season 

447
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,400
memorable. 
Is is really cool? 

448
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,440
Yeah, obviously beating the 
field that was there was 

449
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,120
incredible field, you know, all 
two of the world medallists from

450
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:41,480
last year and then obviously 
Jakob and Cole and you know 

451
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320
that. 
How does it feel to kind of 

452
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,960
just, you know? 
Yeah, I mean, like, I think I, I

453
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,520
ran that way. 
I ran it the hard way. 

454
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,640
I really had to do a lot of work
the second-half of the race. 

455
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,280
And I mean, honestly, it's I'm 
so comfortable in the back of 

456
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,800
those races and that's, that's 
one thing I really got so got to

457
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,760
work on is, you know, maybe 
being comfortable up further. 

458
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,840
So I, I feel like in a race like
that, if I'm up, you know, a bit

459
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,280
further halfway through without 
using any more energy, it's like

460
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,600
I might be able to pull away 
from some people, but it's like 

461
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,600
it's a skill to practice is 
getting stuck back there and not

462
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,280
panicking and staying relaxed 
and still having somewhere to 

463
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,880
go. 
Yeah, obviously. 

464
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,440
I mean, to be fair, I speaking 
to Colin Jakob, they both kind 

465
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,360
of got a little boxed in. 
So actually in a way, like the 

466
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,200
way you came through in the race
that the way it played out 

467
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,160
seemed to work pretty well in 
your favour in the end. 

468
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280
Yeah, I mean, I feel, I feel 
like I found myself right behind

469
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,400
Jakob. 
And once he moved up, I was 

470
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,920
like, all right, it's time, it's
time to go because I I know he's

471
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,240
going to put himself in a win in
a winning position. 

472
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,640
And so the moment I saw him move
was the the moment I realized it

473
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,840
was time to go. 
And you know, the last 500 

474
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,600
meters, I ran a lot of it in the
outside lanes and maybe fix that

475
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,120
in the future. 
But like how I finished today 

476
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,040
was I'm really, really proud of 
that. 

477
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,880
And how how hard and the effort 
I put out, I'm really, really 

478
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,680
proud of as well. 
Brilliant. 

479
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,640
And, you know, like just winning
a Diamond League. 

480
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,240
Obviously Americans don't do it 
very often. 

481
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,760
Colin's been an Olympic 
champion. 

482
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,040
He's not won a Diamond League 
yet. 

483
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,200
You know, does that kind of 
factor into you like as being 

484
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,080
something that's quite 
meaningful? 

485
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,480
Obviously you've got this lovely
little trophy just here. 

486
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,920
So, you know, must feel feel 
good at that sense. 

487
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,480
Yeah, it means I'm doing 
something right. 

488
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,880
And also, you know, I guess you 
know, World Championships and 

489
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:25,240
Diamond League finals and world 
ultimates are, it's not today. 

490
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,200
And so winning, winning these 
meets, you know, they mean a 

491
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,040
lot. 
They're, they're a big milestone

492
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,680
and a big part of my journey. 
But, you know, ultimately I need

493
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,520
to set myself up where I'm at my
best on those days. 

494
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,840
And that matters a little bit 
more than it does today. 

495
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,280
But this is certainly a step in 
the right direction. 

496
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,600
Yeah. 
And I think this also gets you 

497
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,880
safely into the quota for world 
Ultimates, I'd assume. 

498
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,720
Is it definitely. 
Definitely the Diamond League 

499
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,320
final, World ultimates. 
I'm not sure. 

500
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,720
We'll have to see. 
Yeah, but definitely I should be

501
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,800
in the Diamond League final for 
sure. 

502
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,360
Brilliant. 
And obviously we also had the 

503
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,920
slightly unfortunate news about 
lot of Jonah Co action and last 

504
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,680
year's. 
There must be some complicated 

505
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,680
feelings about that. 
Any any sort of thoughts you'd 

506
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,000
like to share on that? 
Yeah. 

507
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,840
I mean, I think for me. 
It's like a, it really sucks, 

508
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,720
you know, it's, it takes away 
some of the satisfaction of like

509
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,840
AUS championships last year, but
you know, I, I accomplished what

510
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,480
I wanted to last year. 
Like I, I got a chance to 

511
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,080
represent Team USA in Tokyo, 
Like I didn't have any 

512
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,920
opportunities taken away from me
from that. 

513
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,640
So like my situation, yes, it 
sucks. 

514
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,920
Yes, I would have loved to have 
crossed the line first in that 

515
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,240
race. 
But I really feel for someone 

516
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,280
like Hobbs who actually had an 
opportunity taken away from him,

517
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,280
that's not fair. 
And yeah, it's disappointing for

518
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760
me, but I I still got to 
represent my country last last 

519
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,160
year and that was the main goal.
Of the year. 

520
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,600
Yeah, absolutely. 
Well, we look forward to seeing 

521
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840
the rest of the season from you.
I'll see you in in Brussels. 

522
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Well, are you? 
You're not in Zurich, are you? 

523
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,520
I'm not in Zurich, So. 
All right. 

524
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,920
Yeah, I'll see you. 
See you in Brussels. 

525
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,040
And hopefully many passed. 
Thank you. 

526
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,600
All right. 
Yeah. 

527
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,520
It was kind of a classic Cole 
Hawker third lap there that 

528
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,920
boxed him in and it just, you 
know, I don't know if he truly 

529
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,320
gave himself a chance the way 
that he ran it to potentially 

530
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,280
win. 
But I will say Cole is coming 

531
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,640
like it's right there and we 
know he peaks very well and you 

532
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,000
know, he must have had a good 
training block the way that he 

533
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,160
ran the 1st 2 laps. 
Chris, I don't know if you want 

534
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,360
to share your ridiculous 
conspiracy theory about Cole 

535
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,200
Hawker's time trial, but. 
Yeah, sure. 

536
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,280
I think is coming. 
Cole is coming, I'm telling you,

537
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,000
by World Ultimates, Cole is 
first or second. 

538
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,360
What? 
Was his 2K time in that? 

539
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Or 50. 2. 3. 
Something like that. 

540
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,040
But we looked at just sort of 
like, oh, like where's that 

541
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,760
stack him up against? 
You know, Jakob has run so much 

542
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,920
faster in a legit 2K race. 
Those very rarely run. 

543
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,160
The coal is close to the 
American record. 

544
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,200
But how much can you extrapolate
from the 2K than it? 

545
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,920
And then seeing it, I was just 
like, you know what conspiracy 

546
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560
theories it it was an edited 
video. 

547
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,600
It wasn't like the Josh Kerr 
time trial where there's one 

548
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,000
continuous shot. 
I was like he's putting out a 

549
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,480
fake time to bluff and that he's
actually fitter than the time 

550
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,280
that he was reporting on YouTube
and he just wants people to 

551
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,080
think that he's not as fit. 
Conspiracy theory would be wild.

552
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,320
Make yourself look bad. 
It was interesting, like 

553
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,320
speaking to him, he didn't like 
come across as he was like, it's

554
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,080
OK, things have gone well. 
But it didn't feel like he was 

555
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,520
like, oh, I should have won that
race. 

556
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,320
I could have won that race. 
He that wasn't the the sentiment

557
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,440
I got from him in that 
interview. 

558
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,320
He was like, that was fine, that
was a good start, first race in 

559
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,640
Europe, whatever. 
But it wasn't the kind of, oh, 

560
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,120
I'm in shape to have won that 
race. 

561
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,600
So it was. 
But then he's always quite mad 

562
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,720
manners, so it's hard to tell 
whether that just means he's 

563
00:30:54,120 --> 00:31:01,080
yeah, how he actually feels. 3rd
place in that one. 

564
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,640
How you feeling after that? 
OK, I'm still chasing the first 

565
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,480
time in league win, which seems 
to be kind of the monkey on my 

566
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,760
back. 
But at the same time I have to 

567
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,400
realize that the position I'm in
and although I feel really fit, 

568
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480
like maybe the fittest I've ever
been, right now, it's coming 

569
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,240
back and getting that race 
feeling which as much as I hate 

570
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,120
it, like a rust Buster, but I'll
just do for one. 

571
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,320
But I can't be too mad with 
second or third. 

572
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,880
But yeah, I just really wanted 
to win. 

573
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,360
I know I could win. 
But with that being said, I'm 

574
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,960
super excited for Zurich. 
Just here in a few days. 

575
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,920
And then Brussels, I think, 
yeah, trying to run really fast 

576
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,760
and really good at Brussels, but
one race at a time, so. 

577
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,400
Moving on Zurich, Absolutely. 
So you're fully recovered from 

578
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,480
everything and you kind of got 
that full training block in that

579
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,080
you wanted from, you know, 
earlier in the year when you 

580
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,920
were saying, you know, you have 
a little break. 

581
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,080
Yeah, Yep. 
Yeah, like, yeah, fully done 

582
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,360
with the injury as of now and 
training's been going really 

583
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,400
well. 
But coming to Europe, mix it up 

584
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,600
with the best in the world, it's
always going to be a challenge 

585
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,240
and kind of off the off the jump
today I felt just a little flat,

586
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,800
but I made a deal with myself 
that I go with the pacer. 

587
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,240
So maybe paid for it a little 
bit and then got a little dice 

588
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,960
in the last lap. 
I don't know what some dude, 

589
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,520
some dudes getting. 
And physical out there I. 

590
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,120
Don't know his name but. 
Yeah. 

591
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,200
And you obviously, yeah, you got
to shuffle back a little bit 

592
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,960
just coming into that last lap, 
right? 

593
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,160
So, yeah, how was that kind of, 
you know, working out because I 

594
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,080
guess that does happen like a 
couple of times that has 

595
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,960
happened to you a couple of 
times with other races as well. 

596
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840
Yeah, no, I have no one to blame
but myself for that position I 

597
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,960
was in. 
But yeah, I don't know. 

598
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,080
It's a fast pace and anything 
that happens like that that that

599
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,080
pace, it's that much harder to 
get around. 

600
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,240
But I say Strand played it just 
a little bit smarter than me 

601
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,920
today. 
And then you, you got the 

602
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,440
benefit of that. 
But like I said, you got to be 

603
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,960
on your A game no matter what. 
And I feel like today, of 

604
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,480
course, I prepped. 
I prepped and I feel like I 

605
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400
brought my A game but for 
whatever reason just felt a 

606
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,560
little flat and tactically not 
so sound. 

607
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,920
So did you know that you were 
dipping on the line to get 

608
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Jakob? 
Because you're literally 3 

609
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,160
hundredths. 
Yeah, yeah. 

610
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,400
No, I don't. 
I just wondered whatever spot 

611
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,000
was best. 
I was going to dip regardless, 

612
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,680
but yeah, no, I'm I knew he was 
in good in good shape, but 

613
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,520
respect for him mixing it up, 
making a first. 

614
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,280
All right, brilliant. 
Well, well done today. 

615
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,680
We look forward to seeing the 
next ones. 

616
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,000
After every race, I'd be like, 
you know what, it's OK, I'm 

617
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,920
still the Olympic champion. 
Well. 

618
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,840
I just like put in context, I 
don't believe Kohl has ever won 

619
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,400
a Diamond League. 
No, he hasn't. 

620
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,320
So there's seven Americans who 
have won a Diamond League middle

621
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:52,080
distance race this year across 
815105K, and Cole is not one of 

622
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,560
them, and neither was Centro. 
So would you rather win a 

623
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,480
Diamond League or the Olympic 
gold medal? 

624
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,080
I think most people would take 
the Olympic gold medal. 

625
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,120
But it's it's, I mean, this is 
America's year in the men's 

626
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,679
middle distance races, like 
between Cooper, Leckenhouse, all

627
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,920
the way to you, we'll get to the
5K that took place in Lausanne. 

628
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:19,320
Like Americans are in contention
to win at every middle distance 

629
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,159
and long distance. 
Can I tell you I'm going to 

630
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,440
preet if you have something 
relevant to this before I bring 

631
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,080
us to left? 
Field I was just going to add to

632
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,360
that stat about Americans 
winning diamond leagues. 

633
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,199
So I think John Gold's tweet. 
So Leo Manzano has won one Miles

634
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,639
Slash 1500 on the Diamond League
yard has won six, and the only 

635
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,760
other person who's won one now 
in somewhat dubious 

636
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,080
circumstances is Janekovich. 
So. 

637
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,159
And Ethan Strand now, yeah. 
And now it's Ethan Strand, but 

638
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:51,560
no Co Hawker and so it's 
literally 2/3 guys until Ethan 

639
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Strand comes along. 
So that is pretty elite company 

640
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,560
to be in. 
And I mean again, emphasizes how

641
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,280
good the Arid is that he's done 
league races. 

642
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,880
But yeah, it will be good to see
Cole win one at some point. 

643
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,040
Where are you taking us, Kyle? 
So for about 3 miles worth of my

644
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,600
run this morning, I was thinking
about Century Wits fans. 

645
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,680
So we just had like the 10 year 
anniversary. 

646
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,720
I was listening to Central Pod 
on Let's Run, which I thought 

647
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:21,800
was really good. 
And so I was thinking about like

648
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,040
Century Wits fans from 10 years 
ago. 

649
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:29,280
Where are they today? 
As in, are you if you were a big

650
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,600
Sentro head in 2016, are you a 
Josh? 

651
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,160
A Jacob? 
We're a Cole Hawker fan today. 

652
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:44,560
I think a lot of them moved to 
Cole after the 21 trials. 

653
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,600
Really. 
It's like you dethrone. 

654
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,400
You jump. 
You jump from like the Yankees 

655
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,080
to the Red Sox. 
No way. 

656
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560
No, actually you didn't jump 
then, but you jumped in by the, 

657
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,200
they jumped by 2024. 
OK, I. 

658
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,040
Don't think it was an immediate 
jump, but by 2024 all those 

659
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,120
people who rooted for maybe not 
all a majority of the people who

660
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,600
rooted for Centro now root for 
coal. 

661
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,920
I mean there's the ducks element
obviously, but like then you 

662
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,040
have the. 
Cockiness. 

663
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,600
The bravado I kind of give to 
Josh in a way of like talking a 

664
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,120
big game, like the old Lions 
being posted on Instagram and 

665
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:31,320
but then the running nerds like 
Yaakov is for the running nerds.

666
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,880
Yeah, and Centro is a nerd. 
Did I show it? 

667
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,880
But he's a he's. 
His brain was always wired like 

668
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,880
a nerd. 
So it's like, where did they did

669
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,280
they fully spread out? 
Like or who has the majority? 

670
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,760
I don't know. 
I don't know. 

671
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,640
That would be like, I want that 
Instagram graphic like Centro 

672
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,360
fans, where are you today? 
I mean, you could, you could 

673
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,000
have try and convince him to put
up a poll on his Instagram 

674
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,840
story. 
Like if you rooted for me back 

675
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,040
in the day, who are you rooting 
for now and then? 

676
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,760
That's AI will ask him to do 
that for sure. 

677
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,600
Yeah. 
All right. 

678
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,840
And we'll get the full results. 
Yeah, that's a good one. 

679
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,200
All right, so Speaking of 
Yaakov, we got a touch on his 

680
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,920
return to the 1500s. 
So 331 we Kyle, you and I texted

681
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,600
that we didn't expect him to be 
this good at the 1500 like this 

682
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,080
this quickly coming off of the 
injury. 

683
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,880
We thought that the speed would 
take a while to get back the 

684
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,160
engine is there he proved it at 
European Championships. 

685
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,840
He closed this thing in 13 
three, which is fine by his 

686
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,240
standards. 
He's just missing the specific 

687
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:48,880
1500 meter sharpness, I think to
win these races, but or, or to 

688
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,760
get back to the point where he 
used to string out these fields 

689
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,040
and then punish everybody over 
the final lap and he's not there

690
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,320
yet. 
So what he was forced to do this

691
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,080
time around in Celestia was he 
was running other people's race.

692
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,520
And like, that's not how we've 
been accustomed to seeing him 

693
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,880
race in the past, but he's 
getting there. 

694
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,000
I think he said give me 4. 
More days? 

695
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Yeah, four more days is not even
allowed. 

696
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,040
It is. 
I like that he corrected Preet 

697
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,960
when Preet said that it's been 2
weeks since Europeans. 

698
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:25,920
He's like, no, no, no, 10 days. 
I yeah, I just tipped my hat to 

699
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,720
Jakob. 
Like I thought that I'm probably

700
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:33,080
on record saying this six months
ago where I was like, yeah, I 

701
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,680
think he could be good again in 
the 5K10K, but I don't know if 

702
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,040
he'll be competitive in the 
1500, just having dealt with 

703
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,440
Achilles issues. 
I just don't know. 

704
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,200
And I have no doubt that in four
days, like he's right. 

705
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:52,760
So yeah, it's incredible. 
It's I, I, I look, it's we're 

706
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,320
not at 326 yet, but you're 
mixing it up with everyone right

707
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,400
now. 
And what do we have? 

708
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,720
How many date we got three weeks
or so until Budapest. 

709
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,360
Yeah. 
Couple, couple, 2 hundreds. 

710
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,360
In practice, who knows what 
happens? 

711
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,200
It's so I I the ultimate champs 
timing is great for so many 

712
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,720
reasons, but we're going to have
this convergence of everyone's 

713
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,400
fitness coming together at the 
at a very interesting point 

714
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,960
because Josh is coming from a 
pier and it's sort of like how 

715
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,200
much has he come down since the 
mile took so much from, you 

716
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,240
know, it took a lot to get to 
that level. 

717
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,680
Can you sustain that for the 
whole entire time until you get 

718
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,440
to September? 
Maybe, maybe not, but if you 

719
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,800
come down even just a little 
bit, you still might be better 

720
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,600
than everyone else. 
Cole, you know, was here. 

721
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Now he's coming back up and then
Jakob has just been steadily 

722
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,360
going up where people kind of 
get confused is like they think 

723
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,760
that he's been, he's only been 
training for like 3 weeks. 

724
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,080
I think the important caveat in 
the way that he's talked about 

725
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,000
and his brothers talked about it
is like uninterrupted training. 

726
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,200
So it's like there was I think 
that spell where he was sick for

727
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,840
a bit, had to miss some sort of 
training. 

728
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,720
But the the his. 
Training has been going on for a

729
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:13,200
little bit longer than people 
think and it's, I mean, I don't 

730
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,840
know. 
He's also someone who peaks well

731
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,240
at the right moment. 
So I'm excited to to see what he

732
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,800
puts together. 
What did you think pre after 

733
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,160
talking to him? 
He's his interviews, which is 

734
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680
always so funny. 
They're always really good and 

735
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,200
you know, you have to give him a
lot of credit. 

736
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,680
I think he he's, he's so good 
with, with interviews and I 

737
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,520
didn't have to say much and he 
gave me all the information I 

738
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,480
needed to know. 
So I didn't really have much 

739
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,440
else to ask him after I asked 
him that one kind of starter 

740
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,080
question. 
As long as you don't ask a 

741
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,760
stupid question to start off 
with. 

742
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,640
If you ask him, how did it feel,
then he'll probably give, he'll 

743
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,840
be like, oh, good, right. 
But if you ask him like an 

744
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,200
actual question about his trade,
which is why I said, you know, 

745
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,240
you mentioned like that. 
I said couple of weeks. 

746
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,240
I was being a little vague and 
he corrected me to 10 days. 

747
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,840
But it's like he had said in the
interview, Europeans that give 

748
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,800
me an an extra 2 weeks and I 
will be, you know, better in the

749
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,320
1500 as well and. 
Exceptionally better, is what he

750
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,280
said. 
So, yeah, I think and that 

751
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,840
that's it, right? 
So he then immediately kind of 

752
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,440
talked about, you know, what 
he'd been doing and where he 

753
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,440
thought he was and how he felt 
the race went. 

754
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,080
And the fact that he had this 
choice at 600 to go, whether to 

755
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,640
go to the front and push it or 
continue sitting at the back and

756
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,760
try and kick. 
And obviously being him, he was 

757
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,760
going to go to the front and try
and push. 

758
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,520
It was, you know, he he 
literally said that, you know, 

759
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,920
that's obviously what if he was 
given that choice? 

760
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,480
That's always the choice he's 
going to take. 

761
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:48,360
So and he ran A137 in that kind 
of 800 to 900 sort of or yeah. 

762
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,640
So he was running, yeah, he's 
running pretty quick. 

763
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,000
Like he accelerated quite 
sharply, you know, after 

764
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,680
somewhere after, you know, 
around 606 fifty to go to to get

765
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,080
up to the front and yeah, and he
closed closed well, and I I was 

766
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,200
surprised he closed. 
So what he did not close that 

767
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,920
much faster than Ethan Strat 
right. 

768
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,160
So that was you know, that was 
slower. 

769
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,560
Sorry. 
So it's it's it's there. 

770
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,880
I I don't think it which is 
dangerous, I think for everyone 

771
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,360
else right. 
It really is it it does it's 

772
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,520
scary. 
And so I yeah, I love to see it.

773
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,560
It makes it all the more 
intriguing if calls was on the 

774
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,480
upswing, which it looks like 
again, I think Jakob also got 

775
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,080
boxed. 
What I found was funny is 

776
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,320
obviously Cole out dipped Jakob 
by .03 of a second. 

777
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,600
So that was fantastic and it 
literally was on the dip. 

778
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,600
So it was brilliant to kind of 
have that kind of happened as 

779
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,560
well for the storyline. 
Jakob, couple more weeks 

780
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,240
training in the bank. 
How's that data point for you in

781
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:49,600
the 1500 today? 
10 days. 10 days. 

782
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,800
Yeah. 
Not two weeks, but there no, I 

783
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,040
think it's. 
I was forced to do a little bit 

784
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,000
more 5K specific going into 
Birmingham. 

785
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:04,000
I think I'm well served right 
now having trained a little bit 

786
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,760
at a lower price, creating a 
little bit of volume. 

787
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,680
I had a couple of good 1500 
specific sessions last 10 days. 

788
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,760
Of course pace is a little bit 
hot from the from the start 

789
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,000
feels a little bit rusty, but 
then as soon as I start, you 

790
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,200
know, picking up the pace feels 
a little bit better, just not 

791
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,040
strong enough to to defend my 
position into the last turn. 

792
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,240
Yeah, you got boxed a little bit
then, didn't you? 

793
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,600
And then it was, it was a 
struggle for you to kind of 

794
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,440
they. 
Gave me a chance and gave me a 

795
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:38,600
choice with five 600 meters to 
go, either I can go to the front

796
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,200
and push from from the front or 
I can stay in the in the lane 2 

797
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,960
and the same powers. 
Of course I'm going to go to the

798
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,160
front push from first position. 
It's a little bit tough and. 

799
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,400
Just not strong enough to defend
my. 

800
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,280
Position. 
So race is a little bit messy 

801
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,680
from there on, but I think All 
in all it's, it's a good, good 

802
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,080
start. 
Get some momentum, get a little 

803
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,400
bit of rust out of the 
machinery. 

804
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,600
Give me 4 days and I think I I 
have it. 

805
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,680
So you think there's definitely 
more to come in Zurich then? 

806
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,200
I think, yeah, I have a tendency
to respond quite well to, you 

807
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,360
know, a little bit getting a 
race, you know, pushing myself a

808
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,240
little bit and getting use some 
energy. 

809
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,040
So I think I'll respond quite a 
lot to this and just have to 

810
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,320
recover and save a little bit of
energy until Zurich and I think 

811
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,400
it's a little bit better. 
Yeah. 

812
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,160
And are you thinking like 
thinking ahead to the rest of 

813
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,160
the season, are you thinking 
about the possible double in 

814
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,360
Budapest or is that right now 
it? 

815
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:45,960
I was focusing on to this race. 
Now it's all about making every 

816
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,200
day count until Zurich. 
Hopefully a little bit better 

817
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,160
there, but because of the last 
couple years just have to take 

818
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440
one race at a time, do 
everything as good as I can, and

819
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,680
hopefully use the momentum as 
good as I can. 

820
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,360
Absolutely. 
All right. 

821
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,920
Well, thank you very much. 
Best of luck. 

822
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,400
See you in Zurich. 
It's kind of fun just how again,

823
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,960
with the sort of like the way 
the season works and who chooses

824
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,880
to be at what me it's, it's like
we've forgotten about Cam Myers 

825
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,600
for a bit. 
Like he'll be back in about a 

826
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,600
couple weeks. 
Niels Lara's out for the season,

827
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,320
but like to think about just the
names who aren't here but will 

828
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,520
show up next year or even just 
in Budapest. 

829
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,680
It's so exciting. 
All right, we'll we'll attach 

830
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,040
Jakob's interview with Preet 
right after the segment. 

831
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,360
But I also want to talk about 
World Athletics confirming the 

832
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,440
Sebco super invites for the 
ultimate champs. 

833
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:48,320
So both Josh and Jacob have been
added to the 1500. 

834
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,960
So the field has expanded from 
12 to 13, and they're adding 

835
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,760
another extra $5000 for 13th 
place just so that it's in line 

836
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,960
with all the other events. 
The exceptional invites were 

837
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,160
capped at one per event up until
they were just like, you know 

838
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,600
what, this is too good of a 
match up for us to keep from the

839
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,720
fans. 
And so they broke their own rule

840
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:16,800
and like, hey, it was, it was 
the right call. 

841
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,720
All things considered. 
We want this. 

842
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,320
I don't think there's anyone 
who's upset from this news, and 

843
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,440
instead it saves us from having 
to do all of the crunching after

844
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,360
the Diamond League final to 
determine whether or not or 

845
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,760
explain to a fan. 
Oh yeah, actually, Jakob would 

846
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,920
have been fine no matter what. 
So it cuts that whole part out. 

847
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,320
And now we're getting Josh 
versus Jakob for the fourth time

848
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,800
since Budapest. 
Josh is 2 and one against Jakob 

849
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,600
since the last time that they 
raced on this track. 

850
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,880
And yeah, it I mean, like we 
said before, their fitness is 

851
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,800
just coming together at a very 
interesting point. 

852
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,640
Do you have give the edge to one
over the other right now, Kyle? 

853
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Josh what? 
Do you mean? 

854
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,280
I I think you're over rating the
like dip in fitness. 

855
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Like I'm sure he took like a 
week or two relatively easy and 

856
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,400
is right back into it. 
And like, if he needed any 

857
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,600
motivation, this is some good 
motivation for sure. 

858
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,240
But I, I like when I saw this 
news, I laughed. 

859
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:25,760
That was just so funny because 
they were, they were writing the

860
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,320
rules. 
They definitely were like, all 

861
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,240
right. 
And just just in case, we'll 

862
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,040
like make up the Sebco rule and 
we'll just say we can do 

863
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,560
whatever we want. 
And then immediately, like year 

864
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,800
one, there's already a situation
that they're like, man, I guess 

865
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,640
we have to like make an even 
crazier rule that says it's just

866
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,320
legitimately we can do whatever 
we want. 

867
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,640
But to your point, this is just 
what we want, like everyone. 

868
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:56,080
So it's kind of nice for World 
Athletics to be outside of the 

869
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,960
parameters of the IOC where it's
just like, yeah, it's just an 

870
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,960
entertainment product. 
Like what's the most 

871
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,400
entertaining thing if it's like 
UFCUFC doesn't have like a big 

872
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,920
qualification. 
And so I I've poured many words 

873
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:17,360
about the idea of comparing 
track to other sports. 

874
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,560
And like, at the end of the day,
it's just about entertainment. 

875
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,200
And maybe it's not about rules. 
It's just about who do you want 

876
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,120
to see race each other and just 
throw out the rule book. 

877
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,360
Put everyone on the track that 
matters. 

878
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,320
Play God, play sports are give 
people what they want. 

879
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,800
I'm not upset. 
It's probably is a relatively 

880
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,080
dangerous precedent. 
Maybe, but by like the next time

881
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,160
we have a World Ultimates, 
everyone will have moved on and 

882
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,880
forgotten. 
Jim Mocker Tanberry gets the 

883
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,320
other one in the high jump. 
And then they gave a few others 

884
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,760
for Hungarian athletes to 
compete. 

885
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,760
I was looking at the events that
they added the Hungarian 

886
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,440
athletes and I was like, all 
right, they're not adding 

887
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,880
someone who could disrupt like 
the 1500 or anything like that. 

888
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,440
It was like, all right, we're 
going to throw one in 101 in the

889
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,520
because there's prelims. 
So they added Hungarian athletes

890
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,080
to the ones where there's rounds
so that people have a home 

891
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,960
hometown hero to root for, at 
least, like in the first round. 

892
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,080
Yeah, No, it should be good. 
All right. 

893
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:25,920
Moving back to Celestia action, 
Siga Deguma won the 1500 on 

894
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,960
women's side, went from 5th to 
1st over the final 100 meters, 

895
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,360
clocked a personal best and a 
world lead of 355. 

896
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,280
Jess Hall, second. 
Claudia Kasmirska, Polish 

897
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:41,720
National Record 35559, got 
rewarded because she went to the

898
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:48,000
front early and you know, it's 
not easy to run from there. 

899
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,640
And so it was good to see her 
deliver for all the fans that 

900
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,680
were out in attendance for her. 
There were three lead changes in

901
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,840
that final lap. 
He had Dorcas Ewoi at the front 

902
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,640
with 200 to go. 
Jess Hall took over and then 

903
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:07,440
none of them could hold off Siga
Deguma closing it. 

904
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,080
It's funny because as much as we
want Emmanuel Agnoni to like 

905
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,360
make the move from the 800 to 
the 1500, we're seeing it on the

906
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,440
women's side. 
You have Siga Deguma making that

907
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,920
transition. 
I guess like it's still TBD if 

908
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,080
she's 100% into this event. 
Preach. 

909
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,920
She's in for the Zurich 800 that
everyone else is running as 

910
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,600
well. 
I don't know. 

911
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,960
There was some talk of that. 
Let me see, I've got the the 

912
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,400
announced athletes here. 
She's not in the list of 

913
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,520
confirmed athletes for that at 
the moment. 

914
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,680
It's just the five kind of big 
names. 

915
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:51,240
So I don't think she is. 
But regardless, like Deguma 

916
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,600
probably did it an assessment of
how things are going in the 800 

917
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,240
right now. 
You see Audrey Guerrero is 

918
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,000
clicking off, you know, 150 
threes, 150 fours. 

919
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,200
And then you've got Femka, 
you've got Keely, you've got 

920
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,400
Georgia. 
Then last week also, you also 

921
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,240
have faith to big on announcing 
that she's done for the track 

922
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:16,760
season. 
We might see her in a road race 

923
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:22,680
later on, but with that being an
opening and you still don't know

924
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,840
what Georgia is gonna do for 
ultimate champs. 

925
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,520
Like a performance like this 
tells you the king of move up is

926
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,440
on this. 
Podcast right here. 

927
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:36,400
That's me and Andres Almgren. 
All right, King of Move Up. 

928
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,320
But yeah, you're seeing this and
you're like, she listens to Kyle

929
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,800
Murphy. 
More people should Deguma, 

930
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,680
though, does need another 1500 
to qualify. 

931
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,760
She only has four performances 
so far. 

932
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Presume the Diamond League 
final. 

933
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,640
Yeah, so. 
But just if you're wondering 

934
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,240
maybe why she wouldn't run an 
800, it's like you got to go run

935
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,720
another 15. 
Yeah, it works. 

936
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,960
You know what I'm just going to 
like I want to give like you're 

937
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,120
a good person. 
A ward out to Jess Hall, who got

938
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,440
like hawked down the last second
and within like a moment of 

939
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,240
cross the finish line was like 
so pumped for Takuma. 

940
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:14,840
And it's just like, I don't 
know, you're a better person 

941
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,440
than me. 
I would have been upset that 

942
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,320
like an 800 runner has moved up 
and like just beating me at the 

943
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,760
last second and. 
This is a good showing for Jess,

944
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,680
like because she's had so many 
of these Hawk Downs this year 

945
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,160
that I think like, it's a step 
forward, I think for where she 

946
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,800
wants to be in the season. 
Yeah, I mean, it's a season's 

947
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,480
best. 
She ran really strong and 

948
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,240
everything. 
I think like there, it's just 

949
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:45,840
she's had a lot of seconds and 
she was it was right there. 

950
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,440
So all that to say is, again, 
like how quickly she was able to

951
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,000
turn around and be excited for 
someone else, I don't know. 

952
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,120
They don't they don't make them 
like that in America. 

953
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,280
That's not how we operate, but I
shout out Claudia for just 

954
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,640
making this just an intentional 
like from the very beginning, it

955
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:14,200
just decided we're we're having 
it ourselves a day and then like

956
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,640
remember when sub four got you 
something? 

957
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,880
Yeah, 357 gets you 9th now in an
average Diamond League. 

958
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,040
It's. 
Good news for them is that the 

959
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,640
Championship qualifying window 
for 2027 is now open and so I 

960
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,400
think nine women in this field 
have already checked the box and

961
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,000
they're good to go for Beijing 
next year. 

962
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,280
There's going to be yeah, 
there's going to be some really 

963
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,120
fast women left out of this 1500
Yeah, ultimate. 

964
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,760
Who's on the bubble or on the 
outside looking in right now if 

965
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,400
you have the Rose? 
Solomee Afonso, Linden Hall, 

966
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,040
Claudia Hollingsworth, Patricia 
Silva, Gabbija Galvidet. 

967
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,040
Working as Michelle A Gabriella 
Dubois. 

968
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,480
Both Stafford sisters actually 
are They're next to each other. 

969
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,600
I like that. 
Sinclair, Sarah Healy. 

970
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:09,000
Like it's really, but I don't 
believe the road to tool updates

971
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,960
until Wednesday. 
Yeah. 

972
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Yeah, they've removed a couple 
of people who've who've rejected

973
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,360
their invites, but they haven't 
updated for the for, for yet for

974
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,920
this weekend's races. 
And the other thing to note is 

975
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:28,000
the qualifying window is until 
Monday, so it's the 31st of 

976
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,560
August. 
So any meetings that, sorry 

977
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,160
until the 1st of September. 
So any meetings that happen, 

978
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,960
obviously Zurich, but then 
anything that happens over the 

979
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,560
weekend, there's quite a few 
meetings on sort of Sunday 

980
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:44,120
around Europe that will 
potentially impact things. 

981
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,280
But yeah, that the the window 
then closes. 

982
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,040
It doesn't include the Diamond 
League final other than for the 

983
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,400
Diamond League wild card. 
Oh. 

984
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,200
That's an. 
That's an interesting caveat 

985
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,640
that I hadn't realized in terms 
of the dates. 

986
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,440
Yes, yeah. 
So and the Diamond League wild 

987
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,760
card is a little bit of a funny 
one because it's effectively 

988
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,120
whoever comes, we talked about 
the last week, whoever comes 

989
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,280
highest in the Diamond League 
that isn't already in the 

990
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,920
ultimates, which is not in, in 
general, it's actually nobody. 

991
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,680
But in in a couple of cases 
there might be someone. 

992
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,280
We have to find the field where 
it's like all right, eight out 

993
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,400
of the 9 competitors are already
qualified and this person just 

994
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,280
showing up is going to be 
assured a spot at Ultimates. 

995
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,120
Yeah, Yeah. 
I think, I think it might be, it

996
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,040
might well happen. 
I think it might be in some of 

997
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:37,000
the in like the 5K or the it's 
either going to be the 5K or the

998
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,800
fifteens where that could happen
to someone. 

999
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,640
Yeah, it's, I mean, so back to 
the this field. 

1000
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:52,680
Quick kudos to Emily Mackay who 
was running towards the front of

1001
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,400
the pack. 
And then there was a moment 

1002
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,960
where like she almost hit the 
ground because Burka Hylam like 

1003
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,320
lost her balance or something 
like that and nearly took both 

1004
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,200
of them out. 
But Emily kept her composure and

1005
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,920
ends up running 35624. 
That's her fastest performance 

1006
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:18,240
since the 35590 that she had at 
the 2024 US Olympic Trials 

1007
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:22,120
runner up finish and already a 
whole second faster than she ran

1008
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,800
last year. 
So when we start to think of the

1009
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,600
US 1500 picture, Nikki, you 
know, had been on a tear at the 

1010
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,080
US Championships at the Pre 
Classic, had a little bit of a 

1011
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,760
rough showing in this one. 
But you know, I think that 

1012
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,320
they're I think you can always 
give a lot of these American 

1013
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,040
athletes the first race in 
Europe after travelling a little

1014
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,280
bit of grace. 
But for some others, they they 

1015
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,000
hit a home run like Emily did. 
So this was, I mean, the US 

1016
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,240
having Emily and Nikki in 
Budapest is gonna be, that's a 

1017
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:04,240
strong one too for sure. 
But yeah, no, seven of the 9 

1018
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,120
athletes in this field ran a 
world lead or seasons best or 

1019
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,600
national record. 
So that was a really, really fun

1020
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,280
race. 
Want to touch on the sprints 

1021
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,760
really quick before we go over 
to Lausanne. 400 hurdles. 

1022
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Allison Dossantos improved his 
own world lead to 4643, Beat 

1023
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,440
Carson Moorholm for the fourth 
time this season. 

1024
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:28,200
Those two guys plus Rye will be 
in the 400 hurdles in Budapest. 

1025
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,960
Rye. 
Benjamin confirming that he's 

1026
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,720
going to be going after the 
Double after running a personal 

1027
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:40,440
best of 4383 for 2nd place 
behind Colin Kevin A Shippy in 

1028
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:45,600
the men's 400. 
Rye now I think he puts him at 

1029
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,320
90 seconds combined for his PRS 
between the two and I'm like got

1030
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,600
to break 90 at some point. 
That'd be really cool to see to 

1031
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,560
combine both of those, both of 
those PRS. 

1032
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:01,040
But Ryze double, it's a tough 
one because I think it's what 

1033
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:07,040
it's 400 first on day one, then 
the 400 final on day 2 with the 

1034
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:13,680
400 hurdles semi final like 90 
minutes later and then the next 

1035
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,080
day you have the 400 hurdles 
final. 

1036
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,400
So he's so Dos Santos and 
Warholm will not get a fresh 

1037
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,080
Rye. 
I'm already making the excuse 

1038
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:29,040
for why Rye may not win, but if 
he does, that's $300,000. 

1039
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,920
Pretty great showing. 
If you come away with both 

1040
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,440
victories, kind of makes up for 
the fact that there's no medals 

1041
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,160
at the Ultimate Championships. 
I think many of these people are

1042
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,520
are content with the payday that
they're going to get. 

1043
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,520
Which would you rather? 
Yeah, I love that he's doubling.

1044
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:51,040
I just I, I like hell yeah. 
US taking every spot we can. 

1045
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,480
It's going to be. 
I was trying to think like, 

1046
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,520
which countries? 
Who's like the most competitive 

1047
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,880
country that is just not going 
to be represented at all? 

1048
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,200
Oh, good question. 
What do you think? 

1049
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,240
Preet, Italy. 
No, they'll have. 

1050
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,480
No, but no, she's not running. 
And Tanberry. 

1051
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,160
But they do have Tanberry, yeah.
Yeah, but you won't have like 

1052
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,720
Marcel Jacobs. 
I think Jacobs is in because 

1053
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,320
he's 1616, Yeah. 
So he is. 

1054
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,000
I don't know if he's injured and
he won't be running, but he he 

1055
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,120
is in. 
But Tanberry will be there, so 

1056
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,360
they'll. 
So that I'm going to look into 

1057
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,400
seeing like which like huge 
country just doesn't have 

1058
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:40,440
anyone. 
And I think it will, like Spain 

1059
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,960
is going to have like a few 
Germany, there's no 

1060
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,520
steeplechase. 
They'll have like a few 

1061
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,000
athletes. 
I guess you have field events to

1062
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,800
fill in the blanks. 
But like sometimes some of these

1063
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:59,400
countries that have like massive
track and field programs, Yeah, 

1064
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,360
we'll figure out. 
We'll do. 

1065
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,640
We'll crunch the numbers. 
When we gave kudos to Kajalchi's

1066
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,760
range, I think you got to do the
same thing with Rye in the 

1067
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,120
sprints. 
Rye's now run 10 O three in the 

1068
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,880
100, which I feel like you get 
him in the right race at the 

1069
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,560
right time of the year. 
He's a sub ten guy. 1999 for 

1070
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,120
200-4383 for 400-4617 for 400 
hurdles. 

1071
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,520
He's the Yomi Kagelcho of the 
sprints. 

1072
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,760
Gotta do an 8. 
Oh yeah, that would be fun to 

1073
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,800
see. 
I, I, I did, I did hear him say 

1074
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,360
he will never do an 8 hundreds 
because he doesn't. 

1075
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,120
He's seen people train for the 
800 and he is not doing that. 

1076
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:47,680
All right, who would you take in
an 800 right, or Vernon Norwood?

1077
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,400
I think Vernon was actually 
thinking about doing it. 

1078
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,120
Yeah, I know. 
That's why I'm like Vernon, just

1079
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,080
having a little bit more of a 
commitment to the event. 

1080
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,360
That might be a different. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1081
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,600
If you want it, you got to. 
You got to want it 600 meters 

1082
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,760
in. 
Yeah. 

1083
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,360
Women's 400. 
Marlady Paulino won 4887 fifth 

1084
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,000
Diamond League win of the 
season. 

1085
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,200
Oblique. 
Seville won the men's hundred 

1086
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:19,280
983 against over Kenny Benaric. 
That one actually was pretty fun

1087
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,320
to watch. 
All nine athletes in that field 

1088
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,920
broke 10 seconds. 
That's a record for the most 

1089
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,560
depth in a single race. 
Men's won 10. 

1090
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:35,000
Hurdles probably will never be 
surpassed, although one of the 

1091
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,880
Chinese diamond leagues I think 
has a 10 lane 100m. 

1092
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,480
But it's so early in the season,
no one's breaking 10. 

1093
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,280
It's too early and they always 
put someone who's not going sub 

1094
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,080
10 in the 10th lane. 
Hey, they could do it with 10 

1095
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:55,560
robots. 
All right, do the robot segment.

1096
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,720
All right let's just briefly 
talk about this robot. 

1097
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,040
It was a humanoid robot named 
lightning built by smartphone 

1098
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:11,320
maker honor. 
It ran 932 at this test event. 

1099
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,600
The world humanoid robot games 
and it hit hit a peak speed of 

1100
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:21,560
14 five bolts world record 958 
from Berlin was broken 'cause 

1101
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,760
this robot goes 932 the day 
before there was another clip of

1102
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,800
another robot going and it 
absolutely just like exploded 

1103
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,080
when it hit the wall. 
But this then they came back 

1104
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,480
another day later and it this 
one got the job done. 

1105
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,360
But there were 2000 robots at 
this event, 51 events, 1000 

1106
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:48,640
competitions across five days. 
But yeah, it's, it's making the 

1107
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:54,240
rounds on social media. 
It it's kind of stupid, but I 

1108
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:59,760
enjoy watching all of them. 
I mean the if you combine the 

1109
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,000
acceleration of the red one with
the closing speed of lightning 

1110
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,120
we got sub 9. 
Yeah, maybe. 

1111
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,440
Well, I just found. 
What are the rules of what 

1112
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,080
qualifies as a robot? 
Like, is it the idea? 

1113
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,840
It's like you have to have two 
legs, can't have? 

1114
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,600
Someone have like 4? 
Obviously have wheels, then it's

1115
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,480
going to like obviously things 
they have like the the wheeled 

1116
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,120
robot that does the video for 
each of the 100 meter races that

1117
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,800
has to go faster than 100m 
runners. 

1118
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,040
Yeah. 
Is that a robot? 

1119
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,840
Like no I think. 
This is a different category. 

1120
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,880
Is that a robot? 
These are humanoids. 

1121
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,280
I guess there's there's like a 
whole different category for 

1122
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,400
these things. 
But I guess I just read that 

1123
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,680
Lightning is also the one who 
won the Beijing Half Marathon in

1124
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,560
April in 5026. 
So now. 

1125
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,520
This guy can do anything 
lightning. 

1126
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,280
Get him in the 400 hurdle 400 
double with rye. 

1127
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,200
We're seeing sub 90. 
Yeah, actually that's the one 

1128
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,160
thing we haven't seen is a robot
hurdle yet. 

1129
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,880
Or BMX. 
Or BMX bikes. 

1130
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:22,000
A robot. 
Well, well, well, about time for

1131
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,200
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1154
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All right, let's go to Lazanne. 
Actually wait, the women's 

1155
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,560
hundred in Celestia. 
This one was pretty hyped up 

1156
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,120
because you had Shakira 
Richardson, Melissa Jefferson 

1157
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,520
Wooden and Julian Offord going 
head to head. 

1158
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:13,280
And I guess the state of track 
Twitter right now is there's a 

1159
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:19,360
10 second clip of Shakari and 
Melissa Jefferson doing block 

1160
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,080
starts. 
And people will take that and 

1161
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,920
then just talk like, oh, this 
person looked better than this 

1162
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,360
person. 
This is what you can expect to 

1163
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,880
see in the race and you get to 
actual race day. 

1164
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,720
And Shakari actually on social 
media pretty open about the fact

1165
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:37,960
that she didn't have a good 
race. 

1166
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,520
And so get that one out of the 
way. 

1167
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,840
She finishes third. 
Julian Alfred versus Melissa 

1168
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,000
Jefferson is I think what a lot 
of people have been, you know, 

1169
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,600
kind of clamoring over. 
And with a little bit of more 

1170
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,080
time between races since the 
last time the the two of them 

1171
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,920
faced off, maybe some people 
would lean towards picking 

1172
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,120
Julian. 
But MJW just reasserted herself 

1173
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:05,080
as like no, she's still the one 
another victory and took 

1174
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,120
extended her winning streak. 
1078 Julian Alfred did clock a 

1175
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,560
season's best of 1083 and then 
Shakira was third in 1096. 

1176
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:19,680
Is if we were to do the Sidious 
power rankings, does this race 

1177
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,520
me and Melissa's number one 
overall? 

1178
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,280
What is Messiah still going to 
be upset at us is the question. 

1179
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,920
You can't let athletes opinions 
influence your vote. 

1180
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,560
I think, I think so. 
I think Melissa's number one 

1181
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,920
because she's undefeated still. 
And like you have to, I don't 

1182
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,960
know, I feel like we did this 
the first time where you take 

1183
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,160
into account the depth or like 
the prestige of an event. 

1184
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,400
Like the 100 is track and field 
everyone. 

1185
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,240
I don't know, is that 
controversial to say like is the

1186
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,120
most important event in track 
field, men's and women's 

1187
01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:01,080
hundred. 
So being the being dominant, can

1188
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,400
you say dominant? 
I'd say dominant, yes. 

1189
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,000
In like the premier event of 
track and fields, I feel like 

1190
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,120
that puts you at #1. 
Yeah, pre would you disagree? 

1191
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,840
Would you put Lightning the 
robot at #1? 

1192
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,920
Wait, are we doing combined men 
and women or just? 

1193
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,080
Women, this is. 
The power rankings of like that 

1194
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,720
we did with the 25. 
Best just track. 

1195
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,479
Athletes. 
Track athletes, yeah. 

1196
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:31,359
Just track probably, but I, 
yeah, I, yeah, I think it's 

1197
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:33,720
still yeah. 
Or is it Josh? 

1198
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,240
No, Josh is only two for two. 
Think about the number of times 

1199
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,760
Melissa has gone out there and 
the if you're assessing quality 

1200
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:47,760
of of the fields like. 
Josh beat everyone ever. 

1201
01:08:49,240 --> 01:09:00,040
In history, he beat Elgar Rouge.
Yeah, And I, I, it's hard to win

1202
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:05,520
that much over 100 and she 
obviously has lost over 200 this

1203
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:12,120
year. 
But which I think in a way 

1204
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,680
unfortunately like that almost 
takes away from it a little bit.

1205
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,840
Maybe maybe that that kind of 
then gives someone else an 

1206
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,560
opportunity. 
I don't know whether it's enough

1207
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:29,760
of a window, but. 
Oh, Paulino could have a case. 

1208
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,240
Paulino would have a case. 
When I first did this, I was 

1209
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,000
very high on Colin and everyone 
was like Kyle, you can't put 

1210
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,520
Kevin a chippy. 
Like I think I was like top 

1211
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,560
three or something. 
And now? 

1212
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,040
Now I think so 'cause he, yeah, 
he's a. 

1213
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:54,200
Pretty strong argument. 
Audrey Werro where OK Guerra's 

1214
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,280
at least top three. 
I can think of seven people who 

1215
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:04,600
are at least top three. 
Well, The thing is, is, yeah, 

1216
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,600
Melissa's unbeaten in the 100 
and the number of times that 

1217
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,200
she's gone out there, when you 
look at just sort of like who 

1218
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,440
else is the and the world leader
in their respective events, not 

1219
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:19,440
everyone is undefeated, even 
when Yoni's got a blemish on his

1220
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:23,280
record with like, Yeah. 
When Yoni's not had the same 

1221
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,400
kind of season that he's no kind
of had in previous years. 

1222
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:28,640
So I don't think, I don't think 
he's up there, but. 

1223
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,840
Yeah, in the Manuma kind of 
building a case for herself. 

1224
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,760
Not, not, not. 
That far up though. 

1225
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,560
No, not that far up, but maybe 
top 15. 

1226
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:41,240
No anyway. 
But yeah, All right, so let's 

1227
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:46,320
move over to Lausanne then. 
Americans go 234 in the 5K. 

1228
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:53,080
Burhanu Ballewoo won in 1257, 
holding off Parker Wolf, Nico 

1229
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:57,000
Young, Graham Blanks, Grant 
Fisher, who might still be 

1230
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,760
dealing with a little bit of 
that foot injury post Usas ended

1231
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,080
up 11th in 13 O 7. 
Although did you see that? 

1232
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,920
Upon further review, he did step
in on the inside of the rail at 

1233
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,600
one point in the race and 
probably enough grounds for a 

1234
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,520
DQ. 
So if you want this expunged 

1235
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,920
from your record, you could just
self report yourself and be 

1236
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,560
like, you know what? 
I don't want this one on my 

1237
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,000
record. 
But anyways, still 1113 O 7. 

1238
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,680
But this one, it's funny to try 
and dub. 

1239
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,920
This is like a preview of the 
2028 US Olympic Trials in the 

1240
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,200
5K, because I think everyone is 
forgetting the fact that the 

1241
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,520
reigning world champion in in 
this event is not in the race. 

1242
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,320
But still three of three of the 
best three of the guys who 

1243
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:49,080
skipped Usas to specifically 
target this part of the European

1244
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,960
track season. 
And by the time we got to like a

1245
01:11:52,960 --> 01:12:00,800
mile into this race, they were 
1234 and they for the most part 

1246
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,600
held on strong. 
For Parker Wolf like this is his

1247
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,800
first full pro season and his 
best Diamond League finish, Nico

1248
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,960
Young racing for the first time 
in about like 3 months puts 

1249
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,320
together this showing. 
Another very encouraging sign. 

1250
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,960
And then Grand Blancs is right 
there. 

1251
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:26,800
I think he's 6th, 6th, 2nd, 4th 
in his four Diamond League 

1252
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,880
appearances, all sub 13. 
I think I pulled the stat on 

1253
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,320
Twitter that he's the first 
American to go sub 13 outdoors 

1254
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,040
four times in a single season. 
Previously, I think Chris 

1255
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,480
Zelensky had done it in 2010 
three times. 

1256
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:44,480
But Graham I think has an 
opportunity to go to do this at 

1257
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:47,320
least like two more times with 
the Diamond League final. 

1258
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,880
And then if the ultimate champs 
is a sub 13 team race, which we 

1259
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:56,440
haven't seen at championships in
a while, but yeah, for this one,

1260
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,760
it was winnable. 
I would say for Parker Wolf, he 

1261
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:06,120
just like last the last lap just
kind of didn't he was didn't 

1262
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,360
have it. 
He was boxed on the final turn, 

1263
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,120
couldn't respond. 
But All in all, I think you can 

1264
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,920
be pretty happy with how this 
race turned out. 

1265
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:17,680
What do you seem like in the 
Knicks zone pre? 

1266
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,080
Yeah, I think he was, he was 
pretty happy with it. 

1267
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,600
Yeah, he, I think he said the 
same like he, he was a little 

1268
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,120
booked. 
So he didn't actually get out to

1269
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,440
actually respond to to Baloo's 
move. 

1270
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,080
But I think he was, he was 
pretty pleased with with where 

1271
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,160
things were at. 
Yeah. 

1272
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,320
But yeah, he didn't, didn't say 
a huge amount. 

1273
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,240
But yeah, I think, I think 
pleased to, to have done what 

1274
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,960
he's done. 
And, and you know, he didn't, I,

1275
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,880
I sort of asked him about the 
5K10K kind of Olympic trials 

1276
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:48,480
thing and he didn't, he wasn't 
as kind of clear cut about it as

1277
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:54,920
as I think Grant Fisher was. 
All right, Parker, great race 

1278
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,720
for you there. 
Sub 13 kicked in second place. 

1279
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,240
How did it feel? 
Yeah, it felt pretty tough. 

1280
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,880
At the beginning, like it felt 
hot, felt like it was a long way

1281
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,480
to go, but we we stayed tough, 
especially in those middle laps 

1282
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:08,960
and I closed really well. 
I was just boxed in a little 

1283
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,280
bit. 
So, you know, tactical things to

1284
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,440
work on, but. 
Can't be too mad about second. 

1285
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,040
We're we're moving up. 
Yeah, and, and obviously you 

1286
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,920
beat all the Americans, which is
probably a probably a good thing

1287
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,360
looking ahead to making teams 
and stuff. 

1288
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,840
So how? 
How did that feel? 

1289
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,720
No, I felt. 
Great, like it's it's great to 

1290
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,240
compete against my country mates
and really I came here to get 

1291
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,080
the international feel like, you
know, race the guys I've never 

1292
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,440
raced before and so I think I 
did that pretty well. 

1293
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,520
Couple things to work on here 
and there. 

1294
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,880
But you know, we get we get some
racing now to fix it. 

1295
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,880
So I'm really excited. 
Yeah, obviously it slowed a 

1296
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,960
little bit in the middle laps, 
but which, you know, does or 

1297
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,120
doesn't happen at a Diamond 
League. 

1298
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,800
It's a bit unusual. 
But yeah, I mean, how did it 

1299
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,760
kind of feel like? 
Obviously a little chilly here 

1300
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,800
in low sand as well today. 
Little bit of wind on the back 

1301
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,400
straight again. 
Yeah. 

1302
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,800
It definitely was windy. 
I felt bad for my training 

1303
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:56,400
partner Nico taking the brunt of
it, so I knew he's going to slow

1304
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,760
down a little bit in those 
middle laps and really I just 

1305
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,000
was able to regain. 
I know it was tough with the 

1306
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,640
wind and just get ready for a 
big kick and it was just kind of

1307
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,280
a long drawn out and then a good
punch with 200 to go and wheels 

1308
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,160
are there, that's for sure. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1309
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,800
And and obviously one question 
because I was trying to grind 

1310
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,960
about it beforehand, Olympic 
trial schedules out, 10K is 

1311
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,600
going to be separate, 5K is 
going to be a straight final. 

1312
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:18,960
How you feeling about all of 
that? 

1313
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:21,000
Yeah, I mean, I haven't looked 
too much into it. 

1314
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,880
I I always love rounds in the 
5K. 

1315
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,680
It shows like the strongest 
guys. 

1316
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,160
Will be there. 
But, you know, I'm just, I'm 

1317
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,400
just excited to race, you know, 
I, I think next year it's going 

1318
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,560
to be a lot of. 
Fun I know in. 

1319
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,880
Two years from now, it's going 
to be even more fun with the 

1320
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,560
home Olympics, so this is all 
just getting ready for those 

1321
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,440
getting ready to go. 
And what have you got planned 

1322
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,120
for the rest of the season now? 
I think maybe one more, 

1323
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,520
hopefully Zurich Diamond League 
in a few days and then hopefully

1324
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,120
try to get into a Diamond League
final slash World Ultimates. 

1325
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,640
And kind of see. 
Where we go from there? 

1326
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,040
Brilliant bro. 
Well done on today Question C in

1327
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,240
Zurich. 
Yeah, Grant was not a fan of 

1328
01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:57,080
separating the 10K and 5K from a
trials because, I mean, he's 

1329
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,320
been successful in 2024. 
He pulled off making both teams 

1330
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:06,400
at those at those trials. 
But I don't know, I think you're

1331
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:11,840
going to see these faces plus 
maybe one or two guys who are 

1332
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,840
maybe not quite on our radar. 
A A Rocky Hanson, if he stays 

1333
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,440
healthy, could insert himself 
into this conversation pretty 

1334
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:23,240
quickly. 
But Kyle, I guess like, what did

1335
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,600
you think of Parker's execution 
in this one? 

1336
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:31,240
Yeah, I mean, I was, I think we 
were debating afterwards, like 

1337
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,200
is Parker the top 5K guy in the 
US now? 

1338
01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:41,880
Like for 2026, I guess you have 
Cole, but he hasn't raced. 

1339
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,920
But versus Nico, Graham and 
Grant, no one's beaten him this 

1340
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,840
year. 
It's sort of similar to the 

1341
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,800
thinking which is I meant to 
bring up before, is Ethan Strand

1342
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,080
the top US 1500 guy? 
He's beaten Cole the last three 

1343
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,800
times that they've gone head to 
head in 1500. 

1344
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,480
Yeah, but he hasn't raced yared,
has he? 

1345
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:05,840
No. 
So, but yeah, I mean, look, you 

1346
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:16,200
and C Mike Smith. 
Mike Smith, what a coach, kind 

1347
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:23,560
of like my grandfather coach, if
you think about it, got a coach 

1348
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:30,360
at me. 
But yeah, I mean, just like go 

1349
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,320
back in time and show people 
what the US is doing in the 1500

1350
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,600
and 5K right now. 
It just still seems surreal. 

1351
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,880
And I'll just say it every week.
It's so cool. 

1352
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:47,440
Like I, I, the only thing was 
Parker never made a move to 

1353
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:49,360
swing wide. 
I said afterwards I was like, we

1354
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,960
got to get Parker in a few more 
1500s to just work on navigating

1355
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,520
through these fields at fast 
paces because it's not even like

1356
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,120
it was that crowded to be boxed 
in. 

1357
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,320
It wasn't like there was like 8 
guys on top of him like and I, 

1358
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:09,360
I, I don't know if he had enough
to to beat Balu, but like he had

1359
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,520
enough to run him a little 
closer. 

1360
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:16,000
He just got caught so. 
Look 55, not that crazy. 

1361
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,080
He probably had a little bit 
more. 

1362
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,280
Yeah, he had a little bit more. 
I don't know. 

1363
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,680
I don't know if he could have 
got him, but he didn't set 

1364
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,600
himself up to do it. 
But you know what? 

1365
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,360
You you finish a close second in
Lusan and next time out you go, 

1366
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,120
all right, I gotta win this. 
And maybe you take that risk and

1367
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:36,400
get outside a little bit earlier
before the last 100 meters. 

1368
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:40,240
So it's awesome. 
It was great, good momentum. 

1369
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,480
I think he's the best 5K guy in 
the US right now just based off 

1370
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:47,800
of no one has beaten him but it 
changes every week. 

1371
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,160
And Preet, correct me if I'm 
wrong, he's not in the Road to 

1372
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,400
the World Ultimates because he 
needs one more 5K performance 

1373
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,720
for now. 
Yes, I think that's right. 

1374
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,360
Let's have a look. 
So run the DL final and you 

1375
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,880
should be good, especially if 
everyone else in the field is 

1376
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,040
already qualified. 
Yes, yeah, that's right. 

1377
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,600
Cool. 
All right, 800 when Yoni wins in

1378
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,920
Lausanne. 
And I mean, with 150 meters to 

1379
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,320
go, you're kind of just looking 
all over the place being like, 

1380
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,880
all right, looks like Marco 
Arope is going backwards because

1381
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,840
he did go through 400 in an 
aggressive. 

1382
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,080
Was it 49 one? 
Yeah, 49 one. 

1383
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,720
Yeah, I, I mean, so fast. 
The pacer was a little bit ahead

1384
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,840
of him, but it was such an 
assertive move that it did end 

1385
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,960
up costing him. 
But you had a challenge from 

1386
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:48,960
when Yoni, from Sajadi, from 
Brandon Miller, everyone, every 

1387
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:54,640
heavy hitter was in it. 
And it was when Yoni, who I, I 

1388
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,360
guess like kind of weird that it
took all the way until end of 

1389
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,880
August for him to get his first 
Diamond League 800 victory of 

1390
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:07,920
the year. 
But he wins in 142 And yeah, 

1391
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,760
first 800 Diamond League victory
of the year because he did have 

1392
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:15,120
that one K earlier. 
But Zejati looks like he's 

1393
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:20,520
turning a corner in terms. 
Of Zejati looked so good. 13 one

1394
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,720
for his final 100 versus when he
was 13. 

1395
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,720
Three. 
I know he he struggles with some

1396
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,040
injuries every now and then, but
like, man, as he bounced back, 

1397
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,320
it does not take him very long 
to get in shape. 

1398
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,200
I thought he was going to steal 
it the way he kind of swung wide

1399
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:40,280
there. 
Yeah, that was look, and if you 

1400
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:45,600
don't follow Marco out at 49 
one, it does kind of make you 

1401
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,640
look like you're flying the end 
of the race as people come back 

1402
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,400
to you and. 
I think the the cool thing that 

1403
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,560
we appreciate about Marco is 
that he uses these Diamond 

1404
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,360
League races as regular season 
races where he's open to trying 

1405
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,520
shit like this to learn from it.
He's like, all right, I guess I 

1406
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,880
can't really go out in 49 one 
and hold on. 

1407
01:21:07,480 --> 01:21:11,400
Although the way he soloed the 
Canadian championships was very 

1408
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,160
impressive. 
It all just kind of depends on 

1409
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:18,000
the day. 
And he's not in Zurich, right 

1410
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,040
Pre? 
I don't believe so. 

1411
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,800
He was originally on the list, 
but he's disappeared. 

1412
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,240
There's two lists, he's 
disappeared from one of them, so

1413
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:26,960
it's a bit unclear, but I don't 
think he is. 

1414
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,440
And what he said was he'd had a 
little procedure after that race

1415
01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:33,640
in Canada, which is why we 
didn't see him after that for a 

1416
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,440
little while. 
I'm watching that first lap 

1417
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:38,320
being like that. 
Whatever this procedure was, it 

1418
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,760
must have been like so cool 
because like he, he looked 

1419
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,200
incredible. 
But that was only the first lap.

1420
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,360
Well, no, he said he was in the 
shape of his life now. 

1421
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,800
They went through him 49 one and
that is because he wanted to go 

1422
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,760
for the he was trying to go for 
the world record and to get the 

1423
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,680
world record. 
Rhodesia split was 49 two in his

1424
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:02,560
in his world record race. 
So I think the assumption I 

1425
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,880
think is it has to be that hot 
in the first lap to actually get

1426
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,000
the world record. 
You know, they can go through in

1427
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:15,600
49549 seven and run a 141, but 
to actually get a 140, I think 

1428
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,960
that's the thinking to actually 
push on to a 140, they will need

1429
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:24,720
to run a faction faster in the 
first half and that's what 

1430
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,760
that's what kills you not 
unfortunately. 

1431
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,960
A run like this kind of only 
makes me appreciate just a bit 

1432
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:34,240
more and more just how good 
Cooper's run was back in in Oslo

1433
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:39,200
when he ran 142 O 8. 
I mean, yeah, I still think 

1434
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,120
about that one. 
It might be my Roman Empire of 

1435
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:45,640
the 2026 season. 
All right, then on the women's 

1436
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:51,200
800 side, you had Audrey Wearo 
winning in one 5533 in front of 

1437
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:57,600
a home crowd, holding off Fem 
Kabul by .18, slightly smaller 

1438
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,680
margin than the European 
Championships. 

1439
01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:03,120
I put out this tweet that and 
I'm getting a lot of discussion.

1440
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,240
And then when we made the 
graphic on Instagram, Kyle, you 

1441
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,480
were instantly like, that's 
going to be a controversial 

1442
01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:10,920
graphic, but the comment section
is going to be great when we 

1443
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,760
posted it. 
And it was because the thing 

1444
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,440
that people take away from it is
femka is getting faster. 

1445
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,960
Audrey Werro, I'm not going to 
say it's getting slower. 

1446
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,320
She's just still winning the 
races, just not as fast as she 

1447
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,600
did earlier in the season. 
And honestly, like, I think back

1448
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,000
to our podcast right after that 
meet and Preet, you may have 

1449
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,080
been the one who was like, could
this have been it? 

1450
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,280
Like for the season, the fastest
you go like there's no 

1451
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,880
guarantees you like she and so 
far, like she hasn't gone faster

1452
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,600
than that than that race. 
Maybe in certain cases like the 

1453
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,400
pacer and all that stuff doesn't
dictate it, but for this one, I 

1454
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,680
think my takeaways are Audrey 
Guerra. 

1455
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,320
Still incredible. 
The Femka Bowl is making these 

1456
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:01,760
leaps in fitness and in, you 
know, race tactics and knowledge

1457
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,040
that it's just kind of making it
more and more enticing like this

1458
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:07,720
learning curve. 
I don't think anyone has been 

1459
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,520
able to clear it as fast as as 
Femka has. 

1460
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:15,280
And so she ends up running 15541
gets the Dutch national record 

1461
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,760
after having tied it at the 
European Championships. 

1462
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,960
It was a 55 three for the first 
lap, 60 seconds for the second, 

1463
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:26,560
second one. 
But yeah, coming off of three 

1464
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:31,320
races in four days, the British 
listeners will put an asterisk 

1465
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:37,800
to Audrey's three races in four 
days because they're still upset

1466
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:44,800
about the semi final home crowd 
pressure for Audrey hanging on 

1467
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,480
and winning things. 
This thing like she, she got the

1468
01:24:47,480 --> 01:24:50,720
job done and now it's on to 
Zurich where you're up against 

1469
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,360
an even tougher field. 
Well, so two things from this 

1470
01:24:54,360 --> 01:25:00,040
one, what killed it? 
13 flat 2nd 100 and literally we

1471
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:04,600
were standing there and as soon 
as we saw them go out and the 

1472
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,560
pacer was ahead of the lights, 
they were miles ahead of the 

1473
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,480
lights. 
And it was basically we were 

1474
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:11,320
like, this is this is a kamikaze
effort. 

1475
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,960
And she did amazingly well to 
hold on because she went through

1476
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:20,520
in whatever it was 5055 three, 
but it was just way, I don't 

1477
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,560
think that split is right, but 
it was yeah, 55 three. 

1478
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,120
But it was just, it was just 
that second hundred that was so 

1479
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,000
quick that it just kills your 
legs. 

1480
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:33,200
And so that's why she was 
slowing in the final hundred. 

1481
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,680
But she still had the second 
fastest close of anyone in the 

1482
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,840
field. 
It was just that Femka closed in

1483
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,440
14.8, so she was .6 faster than 
Audrey. 

1484
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,080
Femka closed. 
What was that? 

1485
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:52,320
1.3 seconds quicker than anyone 
else in the race in that last 

1486
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,160
100, which is wild. 
And that's the new thing. 

1487
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,720
That's the new thing from Femka.
That's what she's done. 

1488
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,800
That's new, that's different. 
And the fact that who's able to 

1489
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:07,400
do that in the quickest race 
that she has run isn't like 

1490
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:11,000
that's what we've been waiting 
for in all of the experiment. 

1491
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:15,080
We're like, Femka is so fast 
that when she can use her speed 

1492
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,000
at the end of a race, she's 
going to be deadly. 

1493
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:23,960
And this is a sign that it's 
starting to happen now that 

1494
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,200
national record is finally all 
yours, all to yourself. 

1495
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,400
You only shared it for a week. 
How's it feel? 

1496
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,440
I'm so happy. 
I mean, to run a national record

1497
01:26:32,440 --> 01:26:35,640
and a dispatch race, winning a 
week of the championship also 

1498
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,080
together with the relay, it's 
just very promising, very nice. 

1499
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,360
I would have loved to get the 
national record when Ellen 

1500
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,240
Bolongo was there, she said. 
Most of the time big meets, but 

1501
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,920
unfortunately not at this one. 
But I will celebrate with her in

1502
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,000
Syria when it's here. 
Brilliant. 

1503
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,680
And I mean, obviously I think I 
think we did see those arms 

1504
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,000
pumping a little bit in that 
last 50 meters you. 

1505
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,200
Should have felt a bit earlier 
with that, no? 

1506
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:01,880
Yeah, it's a work in progress. 
Well, no, I think you you feel 

1507
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,760
like it did feel like you were 
closing quite, quite hard on 

1508
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,080
Audrey in that last 50. 
So that must have felt good to 

1509
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,360
be able to do that. 
Yeah, definitely. 

1510
01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:11,520
I mean, I think I knew myself 
on. 

1511
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,920
The floor for girls to be a very
fast finisher and it's been 

1512
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,600
quite a minor change to be in 
the 8 of it. 

1513
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,120
Let's put the last 50 and 
haven't brought the first garden

1514
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:21,680
to see this. 
Though it's. 

1515
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,600
Very nice, especially the TV 
racial. 

1516
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,240
Yeah. 
And and obviously like that 

1517
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,840
first, like when it went out, it
went out a little fast and it 

1518
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,000
looked like you kind of ended up
just behind the pacer instead of

1519
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,760
Audrey and then she sort of came
round you. 

1520
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,560
So how was that Like for a 
moment? 

1521
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:40,920
You you might have been at the 
front of that. 

1522
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,520
Like when I talk with my coach 
now through the race, we talk 

1523
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,480
for every scenario, we talk 
about my favorite one, but also 

1524
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,360
general points. 
And I always know I have to be 

1525
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,520
ready to be also from. 
I'm a fast starter. 

1526
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,400
I want a good position. 
But I also felt Audrey next to 

1527
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,000
me that she wanted it. 
So there was also. 

1528
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,520
It worked perfectly. 
I think I need to learn these 

1529
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,240
kind of things on the end, 
getting together with everyone. 

1530
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:06,120
Yeah. 
And then I think the Ethiopian 

1531
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,600
athlete sort of came round and 
maybe, you know, 5600. 

1532
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,040
So how was that then? 
And then you had to kind of pass

1533
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,440
her again. 
Yeah, new, different. 

1534
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:18,920
I didn't have it before and I 
think it was a really good 

1535
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,080
experience. 
It really pushed me a lot, so it

1536
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,400
was nice. 
Thanks. 

1537
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:31,880
In 1984, the Soviet Union set 
the 4 by 800 world record of 

1538
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:36,720
750. 
Now, in this race, a really cool

1539
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:42,280
thing is that besides Audrey, we
saw 2158 out of Switzerland and 

1540
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,920
they've got a couple other women
under 2 flat. 

1541
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,920
It's a shame the World Relays 
got rid of the four by 800. 

1542
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:55,880
Because imagine, I would say the
favorites would probably be 

1543
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,640
Great Britain. 
But like, Can you imagine a 

1544
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:04,000
world in which like, Keely got 
the baton like a second ahead of

1545
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,840
Audrey? 
And just like Audrey just goes 

1546
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,240
out at like 54 O and just like, 
holds on, maybe ends up losing. 

1547
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,960
But like splits like 1:50 to 
8:00 or I don't know. 

1548
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:21,240
Like Australia also has crazy 
depth in the women's 800 right 

1549
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,640
now. 
I don't think the US is 

1550
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,760
necessarily super competitive 
based off of this season. 

1551
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,280
Kenya wouldn't be too bad 
either. 

1552
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,040
Pena wouldn't be too bad. 
Day. 

1553
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,920
Ethiopia wouldn't be too. 
Bad hot or cold? 

1554
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,160
Yeah. 
But I think you'd you'd have to 

1555
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:44,680
give it to GB as the favorites. 
But like Switzerland with Audrey

1556
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:49,600
on anchor would be so cool. 
Yeah, I guess pre they end of 

1557
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,000
the Lausanne Diamond League on a
relay, right? 

1558
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,680
Yes, yeah, I do. 4 by 1. 
Yeah, that was a four by one, 

1559
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,840
yeah. 
So I guess it's for the. 

1560
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,920
Stupid. 
Yeah, stupid didn't. 

1561
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:01,360
Mean anything? 
Yeah. 

1562
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:06,200
I shut it off. 
Then there's a firework show, 

1563
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,080
right? 
Yeah, the firework show is 

1564
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,360
pretty cool. 
But yeah, and the light show and

1565
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,400
like, they turned off the lights
and yeah, it was, it was your 

1566
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:14,880
whole trophy presentation, 
everything. 

1567
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,000
I mean, unfortunately it meant 
that we didn't get an interview 

1568
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,760
with Audrey and stuff like that,
but it was pretty cool. 

1569
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,200
And there was someone singing at
the end as well, so yeah. 

1570
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:28,200
There's. 
No, it was not Monday in Zurich.

1571
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,560
We're getting Delta Goodrem, 
which if you are British or 

1572
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:37,240
Australian mean something. 
She used to be an actress on a 

1573
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,880
television soap opera called 
neighbors. 

1574
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,280
And so if you're of my 
generation or younger, she's 

1575
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,800
kind of around my age, then 
she's quite iconic. 

1576
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:50,200
And it's weirdly an Australian 
show that's more popular in in 

1577
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:54,400
the UK than in Freet. 
'S going to somehow find his way

1578
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,440
on the private jet with this 
actor. 

1579
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,560
This this singer. 
No, I didn't. 

1580
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,800
I didn't get on the the whatever
the private flight to Zurich 

1581
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,720
that's going from Poland. 
I've I've got my own flight but 

1582
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,320
a regular regular flight sadly. 
This just brings to mind that 

1583
01:31:12,440 --> 01:31:16,040
you know how and so the Lausanne
ends with a relay. 

1584
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,920
If you're one of the China 
Diamond leagues, I think I know 

1585
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,360
just the event you should have 
at the very end of your Diamond 

1586
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:27,840
League next year. 
You have lightning out the Robot

1587
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,160
100. 
Although it did seem like what 

1588
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,360
did Fred Curley put out some AI 
generated like poster of him 

1589
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,280
facing like. 
Is that real? 

1590
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,520
Or against the robot, I don't 
know, feels like a cash grab, 

1591
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:43,440
which like seems to be the 
direction that he's going while 

1592
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:46,760
he serves the suspension. 
But yeah, who knows? 

1593
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:50,880
There used to be those shows 
where you'd have like athletes 

1594
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,880
racing a horse and a camel and 
that kind of stuff. 

1595
01:31:54,880 --> 01:32:00,720
So we are due I think very soon 
for the first humanoid versus 

1596
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:05,600
human race. 
But for now I think like this 

1597
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:11,720
women's 800 is feeding families.
Oh, another person from this 

1598
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:16,760
race, Preet, who is Saida Teshe,
the 18 year old Ethiopian who 

1599
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,840
was like in this race, like got 
in Vemka's way at one point but 

1600
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:25,400
held her own. 
She a month ago was not ran 201 

1601
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:29,520
and now is all the way down to 
156 fading. 

1602
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:34,760
Yeah, yeah, she was incredible. 
Like she's supposedly 18 and she

1603
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,440
but we've never heard her and 
never seen never heard of her. 

1604
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:39,240
Not really seen her before as 
far as I. 

1605
01:32:39,440 --> 01:32:42,600
Not IU 20s. 
She was not at you 20s, no. 

1606
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,360
So, yeah, don't know much about 
her. 

1607
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,080
But yeah, the the interesting 
thing was because Femka said 

1608
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,400
afterwards, yeah, that that was 
something that was new to me, to

1609
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,720
someone like overtaking me and 
we having to like, overtake them

1610
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,400
back. 
And so she's also gaining 

1611
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,040
experience and she still ran her
fastest in this race despite 

1612
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:03,200
having to do that, which was, 
again, an interesting and 

1613
01:33:03,480 --> 01:33:07,680
ominous sign. 
We we Speaking of young 

1614
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,240
Ethiopians breaking on the 
scene, we kind of overlooked 

1615
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,440
Gemechu Gadana. 
That's right, beating El Bakali.

1616
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:18,440
This dude came out of nowhere 
this year and now he's running 

1617
01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:21,240
802 and taking down one of the 
greatest steeple chasers of all 

1618
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:25,400
time. 
I mean, what a trajectory. 

1619
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:31,440
And he looked like El Bakali is 
a kick, like he is known for a 

1620
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:35,200
kick. 
And Gadana made him look like he

1621
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:39,440
was standing still. 
So yeah, I don't know where 

1622
01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:42,640
Lameche is these days, but 
Ethiopia's got another great 

1623
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:45,680
steeplechaser. 
And that, I guess, Diamond 

1624
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:50,600
League final will be it in terms
of being able to see these guys 

1625
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,400
in action because it's not at 
the ultimate champs. 

1626
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,600
And then reigning world champion
George Beamish, I think, has 

1627
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,880
called it a season. 
He's injured again. 

1628
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,000
So yeah, I mean, we'll see. 
I mean, things are shaping up 

1629
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:10,680
really nicely for Zurich and 
Brussels in the week in the 

1630
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,760
weeks to come. 
Kyle, really quick. 

1631
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:17,160
Do you want to give your coach a
little bit of a shout out here? 

1632
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:25,080
Galen Rut, 9th place, 6129 at 
the Antrim Coast Half Marathon 

1633
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:29,600
on Sunday. 
Didn't win 9th place but that is

1634
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:35,040
the US 40 plus record. 
Yeah, let's go, Coach. 

1635
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:40,240
I was texting with him last 
night at about 4:00 AM, three, 

1636
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,000
4:00 AM because my son was 
awake. 

1637
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,800
So I was just, you know. 
And he's awake. 

1638
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:49,200
Teaching, but he was awake 
because he's flying back and he 

1639
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,000
said thanks. 
Another positive step. 

1640
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,760
Was hoping to run faster but it 
was a good race. 

1641
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,000
That's the fastest I've run for 
half in six years. 

1642
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,760
So he had said in our pod that 
he's training is going really 

1643
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,800
well. 
This confirms it and just gives 

1644
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,320
me confidence in what I'm doing.
Most importantly says I'm. 

1645
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:11,680
I'm working with the coach who's
not just making things up as he 

1646
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,880
goes. 
He's got experience behind him 

1647
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,240
and yeah. 
All right, one more plug for 

1648
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,720
that first podcast interview 
that the two of you did 

1649
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,240
together. 
But what was it exactly that he 

1650
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,440
said about the importance or how
much stock he weighs into 

1651
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:25,600
running half marathons in the 
build up? 

1652
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,800
But he doesn't do them without 
much of A taper, right? 

1653
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,120
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, he highlights like 

1654
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:36,080
racing is just the best way to 
prepare for a race. 

1655
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:41,440
But yeah, I mean, I think like 
all marathoners, it's like a 

1656
01:35:41,440 --> 01:35:44,280
good indicator, but you're not 
going to put all your stock into

1657
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:49,320
it. 
He doesn't have me racing before

1658
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:54,760
Chicago, but we're planning in a
quite the 20 mile tempo, so 

1659
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:58,360
that's might as well be a race. 
Yeah. 

1660
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:03,880
So as of right now, how do you 
feel Project 222 is going? 

1661
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,840
I feel good. 
I ran 24 miles on Saturday. 

1662
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:15,920
Just real some real rough shit. 
Yeah, that was the furthest I've

1663
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:20,480
run in quite some time. 
But yeah, feels like it's going 

1664
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:21,840
well if you've got a lot of 
confidence. 

1665
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:26,800
A big week of training on deck. 
I think we should do another 

1666
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:32,240
check in maybe after this 20 
mile tempo, maybe in September 

1667
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,760
I'll I'll get him in for a 
little check in pot and we'll 

1668
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,800
see what we're both doing. 
Pre I haven't forgotten about 

1669
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,920
the fact that I think we said 
that you're going to do a park 

1670
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:44,800
run before the end of the year. 
Yeah, I haven't got very far on 

1671
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,800
that front because I did my back
in a couple of months ago. 

1672
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,880
So I have not run very far. 
Do you? 

1673
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,400
Need a retired pro to also coach
you? 

1674
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:56,680
Or actually, Galen's. 
Not even. 

1675
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:57,280
Retired. 
Yeah. 

1676
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:02,320
What event? 
Pick the event. 

1677
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:11,360
Come on, what we know. 
Or get me ready for the Media 

1678
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:15,800
800 in Beijing next year. 
That's I think we could do that.

1679
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,840
I was, I was going to say, I 
thought you'd want Niraj Chopra 

1680
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:20,240
to teach you how to throw a 
javelin. 

1681
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,960
We've, we've, we've presented to
Val Alman a few years ago that 

1682
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,480
she would teach US how to throw 
disc, which maybe it will be a 

1683
01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:34,360
future segment. 
It was, yeah. 

1684
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,120
And and The thing is, is like 
both Val and and and Coach Zeb 

1685
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,800
were very much for the idea of 
like, yeah, just come on out, 

1686
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,120
come move out to Austin for six 
months. 

1687
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,600
We'll gladly teach it. 
I'm like, I'm 30. 

1688
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:54,640
I can't, I just can't move to 
Austin for six months to pursue 

1689
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,160
a dream in, in, in throwing shot
put or discus. 

1690
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,560
But if you if this would have 
been presented to me fresh out 

1691
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,720
of college at 21, there's a good
chance I would have taken up 

1692
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,200
that offer. 
Preet, are you familiar with the

1693
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,520
show from MTV? 
It was called Maid. 

1694
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,800
I am not. 
So basically the idea was like 

1695
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,960
that someone would say they want
to be made into something and 

1696
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,000
then they would like, it'd be 
like, it'd be like, I want to 

1697
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,440
learn how to skateboard. 
And it'd be someone who's, like,

1698
01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:26,000
never touched a skateboard in 
their life. 

1699
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,000
And the entire show would be 
like, Tony Hawk. 

1700
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,200
Yeah. 
Like Tony Hawk coaches them how 

1701
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,240
to, like, skateboard. 
And then, like, after doing this

1702
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,840
for three weeks, they, like, 
learned how to Ollie. 

1703
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,720
And then there's like an 
emotional wrap up about how this

1704
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:43,200
has changed their life. 
And I do think that everyone on 

1705
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,240
the serious team doing some 
version of this with different 

1706
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:50,680
events would be the funniest so.
There's actually a Belgian 

1707
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,120
YouTube who does this with all 
the Belgian professional 

1708
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,520
athletes. 
So he got Nappy TM to teach him 

1709
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,880
how to high jump and like and 
stuff like that. 

1710
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:02,200
Yeah, OK. 
It's really fun and it's really 

1711
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:07,120
fun because he's he's not, he's 
built quite, you know, not like 

1712
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,040
an athlete. 
And they also do these hilarious

1713
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,960
100m influencer relays in 
Brussels, which he's a part of. 

1714
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,880
And he always dresses up in like
comedy costumes and stuff. 

1715
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:22,160
It's brilliant. 
But yes, there's definitely 

1716
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:25,920
opportunities there in there. 
I think a long jump, like if we 

1717
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:30,120
could get like a group long jump
session, like bring five of us 

1718
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:35,160
out and have just like a 
professional long jumper teaches

1719
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,640
all how to do it. 
Like, yeah, like targets can 

1720
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:42,120
teach all of us collectively. 
There is a media day the day 

1721
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,920
before Ultimate where we're 
supposed to do funky content. 

1722
01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:51,440
So that is, that is not like, 
yeah, yeah, no, it's literally 

1723
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:55,200
as it like they want to do like 
imaginative, like unusual, like 

1724
01:39:55,680 --> 01:40:00,000
social media content, so. 
That Media 800 in Budapest seems

1725
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,120
like. 
I haven't seen anything yet. 

1726
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,600
I don't think I'm in 800 shape 
right now, but it would have 

1727
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:13,960
been nice to get revenge after a
year out of missing that one 

1728
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,040
race in Tokyo that I was really 
excited for. 

1729
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:22,160
But alas, we'll have to wait 
till 2027, at least 28. 100 I 

1730
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:26,400
have some breaking news. 
Keely Hodgkinson has just 

1731
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:31,880
withdrawn from the Zurich 
Diamond League, so she has said 

1732
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:35,520
unfortunately the body isn't 
quite ready to race again after 

1733
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,160
the European Championships. 
We've made the decision to skip 

1734
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:39,880
this race and get ready for the 
next one. 

1735
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,600
Sad to miss it. 
Hopefully see you next year. 

1736
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,200
I don't know. 
Next year. 

1737
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,560
I think that's to Zurich, That's
to Zurich. 

1738
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,480
So that is in the Zurich press 
release because I got an e-mail 

1739
01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:54,520
from the Zurich Diamond League. 
So I think that is specific to 

1740
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,720
Zurich. 
So I think she is still doing 

1741
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,320
world ultimates. 
I don't think she's doing dumb 

1742
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,880
league final. 
But yeah, unfortunately we 

1743
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,480
don't. 
It's Georgia Hunter Bell. 

1744
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,840
We still have Georgia Hunter 
Bell, Audrey Waro, Famke Bridges

1745
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,840
Bowl and Lillian Adira, who 
didn't really feature in the 

1746
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,440
race in Lausanne. 
So maybe. 

1747
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:18,080
Maybe. 
Maybe Siggidiguma? 

1748
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:22,080
Maybe 62, but I think she's 
going to do the 1500. 

1749
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,440
Yeah, so. 
She's good at both Double. 

1750
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,920
Yes, but she's the Yeah, but 
remember her PR got. 

1751
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,720
You of the women's middle tier. 
That's great. 

1752
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,640
Well, she's her PR IS1566, 
right? 

1753
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,760
And that is she's an Olympic 
silver medalist, but her PR is 

1754
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,680
156. 
So I think she's realized like 

1755
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doing the fast 8 hundreds that 
they're currently doing, that's 

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not her. 
Which is kind of funny because 

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she came up from the 400 like 
her background was 400 back in 

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the day. 
But the event is moving quickly.

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Yeah. 
All right well Zurich Diamond 

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League coming up on Thursday, so
should be an exciting one all 

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right that does it for this 
episode of this week in track 

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and field. 
We will catch you guys maybe 

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next week. 
Well, definitely next week, but 

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01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:14,280
who knows? 
We're always on emergency 

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podcast watch, especially with 
these fields in Zurich. 

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So that does it. 
Thanks for listening. 

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Catch you next time. 
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01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,400
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01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,360
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01:42:32,440 --> 01:42:35,320
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01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,520
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01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,400
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01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,600
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01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,200
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01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:51,680
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