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Loudest all right, we rarely do 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,840 this thing, but emergency podcast Chris Chavez Preet 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Majithia here to unpack the fact that Keely Hodgkinson just 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:38,360 absolutely smashed the indoor 800 meter record running 154.87 27 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,160 in Leven nearly a full second faster than the previous mark 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,040 that had stood since 2002 on the day that she was born. 29 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:54,360 It was destiny is as she put it and today on the track she took 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:02:00,120 care of business and got it done with an aggressive start to the 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,880 1st 400 meters but then managed to hold on and. 32 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,240 Really, Smash. That world record. 33 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,680 So first, first thoughts, Preet. I guess like as you watch it all 34 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,920 unfold, you're the resident Brit, so I'll let you have it. 35 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,720 I mean, obviously absolutely thrilled that that she got it. 36 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,760 And you know, she, she, it felt like it was pretty comfortable 37 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,960 and it wasn't it was never in doubt, right? 38 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,800 So that was that was the main thing. 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,120 It didn't feel like it was any doubt. 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,200 There was obviously a little bit at the start of the race where 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,560 like Audrey Werro was there as she was trying to cut in and 42 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,200 there was a little bit of, you know, and then the pacer had to 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,680 to go a little bit quicker. So there's enough space for it 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,800 to slot in. So there's a little bit there 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,800 where I was worried for a moment that had she gone out a touch 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,760 faster than she wanted? And that maybe did show at the 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,600 end because it looked like she was tying up a little bit. 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,520 But I mean, running 154 indoors, I mean, that was to be expected 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,960 anyway. So, yeah, Absolutely Fabulous 50 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,720 run. Do I think she can go 153 51 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,560 outdoors? Yes, I think is the answer. 52 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:14,720 So very excited for for what's to come next. 53 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,520 And I'm very impressed that they got the throne. 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,280 I think her agents shipped over the throne that they'd got for 55 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,240 the Keely Classic last year, where she was meant to be 56 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:30,040 attacking this world record, and they shipped it over to Lee Van 57 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,000 so that she could sit on it once you break the world record. 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,840 I mean, you, you, you put it perfectly there. 59 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,480 Just sort of kind of all of the emotions wrapped up into this 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,360 performance for Keely herself. Like they had kept a very brief 61 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,560 post race in stadium interview because she was going full 62 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,920 lactic, I think at that point just after such a hard effort. 63 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,920 And I think the thing that stood out was that she just said, 64 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,040 thank God, it's sort of her first sort of initial reaction 65 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,160 to this one because she has wanted it for a long time. 66 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,640 And I think in one of the pre race interviews, the one that 67 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,720 she did with James Rhodes beforehand, she'd said that 68 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,080 she'd be very pissed if someone else would have taken this 69 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,839 record before she did and so managed to get it done. 70 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:23,440 So let's break down this minute and 54 second race a little bit 71 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,760 more in depth here. So First things first, that 72 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,240 stood out to me. The lights were set at 153.8 and 73 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,720 like I don't remember seeing anything about this in the lead 74 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,200 up to it. So it did signal the fact that 75 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,000 they know that she can go very, very fast and but although like 76 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,760 153 eight for indoors is very, very aggressive. 77 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,520 So I was a little confused by that move. 78 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Did it make any sense to you? Well. 79 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:55,680 I think we did know that the pacer was set to GO-558 which 80 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,880 then suggests she went she wanted to close in a 58 which 81 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,920 when you put it, when you split it up like that, it makes a 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,000 little more sense. And I think there that that 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,360 there is that thing in the back of my mind that you know had she 84 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,200 had the completely smooth run there and gone exactly to pace. 85 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,840 Maybe they were ahead and the margins are so fine, right? 86 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:22,120 They went a hair too fast in that first sort of 200 and maybe 87 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,720 if they they'd backed up, been able to back off that just a 88 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,080 touch, then she would have been a little more comfortable 89 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,680 because she she doesn't have, I think MO 400 meter speed, right. 90 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,720 So she's pretty quick. She's a 51 second runner, but 91 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,280 she's not, she's not a, you know, she's not a 49 second 92 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:38,880 runner. So it's still, you know, once 93 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,520 you get closer to APR, it's going to start getting 94 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,280 uncomfortable much more quickly. So maybe that that was kind of 95 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:49,520 the thinking behind it. But yeah, obviously, yeah, I 96 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,760 think, I think we we have to wait and see now for outdoors to 97 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,640 see what what she does in terms of quick times there because it 98 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,840 doesn't look like there's more in the tank. 99 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:03,480 Yeah, so I had the the splits that I tweeted out and the 1st 100 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:11,040 200 meters from the pacemaker were 26.47 and then they came 101 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:16,240 through the 455.56. So it's a 26 and then a 29. 102 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:23,480 The hard part about that 1st 200 is the fact that, hey, I said it 103 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,840 on the podcast a couple days ago. 104 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:29,560 I wanted Audrey Wearo to insert herself into this race. 105 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,600 And maybe for the 1st 200 meters, she gave it some thought 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,240 as to like, hey, you know what? Maybe it could be my day. 107 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,040 And so she tried to get in position. 108 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,480 She didn't necessarily entirely defer to Keely. 109 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:48,000 And it did cost her, like she ended up finishing in second in 110 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,840 158 and those later laps definitely got to her. 111 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:56,640 But hey, she she put herself in it for a lap and a half and 112 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,720 she's 21 years old. I think that's the part that's 113 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,960 getting lost on people is that Audrey, we're just ran 158 at 21 114 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,640 years old and Keely's still super young. 115 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,720 This record just stood for 20, almost 24 years. 116 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,920 I don't necessarily know if Keely's will last all that long 117 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,800 because one, she could lower it to herself or two, there's 118 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,640 already young talent on the rise And three, the 800 meters 119 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,240 indoors appears to be absolutely broken in the year 2025. 120 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 There. It's it's a combination of 121 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,280 factors here, right? We've touched on this podcast 122 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,200 multiple times about how the new staggered start has contributed 123 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,120 to the all time list being rewritten by, you know, very 124 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:45,280 accomplished athletes. But it's really year over year. 125 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,160 We haven't seen anything like this. 126 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Then, of course, you compile the gains that you get from the 127 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:57,480 bicarb super shoes, the spikes, all the the, the tracks, the 128 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,920 lights, all that kind of stuff. And yeah, eventually that's 129 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,680 going to contribute to some time getting taken off of, you know, 130 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,320 this this long standing record, it was a little bit of a tainted 131 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,280 record, right? Yolanda Chet Black did end up 132 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,360 having a positive test in her career later on. 133 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:23,040 And so it was kind of looked at as you know, maybe not one of 134 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,320 the highest regarded records. And in the same vein, that's the 135 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:34,400 case with the outdoor record, right. 153.28 has withstood the 136 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,520 test of time. And I remember years ago there 137 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,440 was, I think it was CEPCO was putting out this potential 138 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,240 proposition to wipe clean or start keeping track of world 139 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,080 records after the year 2000 or wherever it was or whenever the 140 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,320 athlete biological passport got introduced. 141 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,880 So that some of these marks from those, that's the Soviet bloc 142 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,160 and all that kind of stuff wouldn't be up there. 143 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,800 But hey, I think we're getting to the point now where someone 144 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,280 like Heely can firmly believe that she can give that record a 145 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,360 shot. Because now that she's run 154 146 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,400 eight indoors, she's a super close to her own outdoor PR of 147 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,720 154.61. The world record, as we said 148 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,960 before, is 153.28. That is another whole second of 149 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,280 time Keeley's in the best form of her life right now. 150 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,040 And I think it's going to continue to stack as we get 151 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,520 closer to the outdoor season. And I did run the World Athletic 152 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,840 scoring table on this one to see like what the indoor time 153 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,640 converts for for outdoors. So I took the points and said 154 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,160 what is it going to be worth? And this is without any sort of 155 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,960 placing a bonus or meet bonus, just straight up if you, if you 156 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,560 ran this at AF category F meet with no extra points, it would 157 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:56,640 be worth I guess of a 154 point O2. 158 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,360 So it's getting there, It's getting there for sure. 159 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,280 But the, the next thing I think to watch out for, and it's 160 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,440 something that we'll get to see very soon with Keely is how 161 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,680 quick is she in the 400, right? That I guess you brought up the 162 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:13,640 fact that they're going to be organizing the, the M11 track 163 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,280 club is going to be organizing this meet in a couple weeks. 164 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,000 And part of it I think I saw Keely's going to be running the 165 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,240 400 there. So her indoor PBS 52, outdoor 166 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,640 PBS 51. If she can get into the 50s, I 167 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,640 think indoors, which that's moving, it's another good sign 168 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,320 of of things to come for the outdoor season. 169 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Yeah, exactly. And I think the one thing that I 170 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,080 did want to, I'm looking at the 800 meter all time list outdoors 171 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,480 and there's only one athlete who's run 154 four times, that's 172 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,840 Caster Semenya. And then Keely is now one of 173 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,160 only two athletes to have run 154 three times. 174 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:59,000 And the other athlete there is Pamela Julimo even, right. 175 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,720 Well, record holder Krotosh Volova, she has only won 154, 176 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,120 well, sub 155 twice. Once was the world record and 177 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,600 once one other time where she won 15468. 178 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:17,520 So, you know, she is now up there on that 800 meter all time 179 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,440 greats kind of, you know, Mount Rushmore. 180 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,600 I think she's kind of put herself firmly in that mix now 181 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:30,160 having having done this. And yeah, I think there is. 182 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,640 There is definitely more to come. 183 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,680 Look at you dropping a mountain Rushmore reference. 184 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,760 The other thing to add to just like the impressive stats around 185 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Keely's performance and Kyle dropped this one into our group 186 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,680 chat is that she's the only person to have run 154 three 187 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:49,320 years in a row now, because. But also, I guess here's the 188 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,240 caveat with that one is like they did put a stop to Caster 189 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:57,320 Semenya from continuing on to, to try and run faster for, you 190 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,440 know, with all of the DSD regulations that World Athletics 191 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,040 put into place. So who knows how how many more 192 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,680 years of 150 fours or faster Castor would have had in her. 193 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:12,120 But still, I guess like Keely's the first to, to, to do it. 194 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,960 So that's encouraging. So, yeah, I mean, All in all, 195 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,200 this was it lived up to, to to the hype. 196 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,520 I mean, we're jumping on for, we rarely do the emergency podcast, 197 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,000 but this was just a very, very big performance. 198 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,240 I was, I'm curious. I haven't seen anything come out 199 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,480 of it yet. Maybe we'll learn something in 200 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,040 the mix zone. But Keely did have some sort of 201 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,000 like tape on her shin. I think it was like on her left 202 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,520 foot. So I don't know, could have been 203 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,080 covering up a tattoo or whatever it might have been. 204 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,640 So regardless, didn't seem to bother her because she ran crazy 205 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,680 fast. It was the only world record of 206 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,040 the day. The rest of the meet was pretty 207 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,000 good. Where we can touch on that when 208 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,800 we do our more thorough podcast next week. 209 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,040 We saw a near world record by Jess Hall. 210 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,440 She went for it, came up short. Georgia Hunter Bell another win 211 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,400 800 Elliot Crest on another very very strong performance for him. 212 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,440 Immense. 3K was just OK. I ended up crunching some 213 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,760 numbers. Seems like Josh Kerr, Cole 214 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,880 Hawker, they're in a good spot on the top list. 215 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,560 Why? So they'll get to go to World 216 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:26,640 Indoors, assuming that you know, they got named to to their team 217 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:32,760 or Cole wins USAS. Basically, I was for the 1500, 218 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,120 which Isaac Nader won and the three Ki did have my moment 219 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,360 where I'm like, damn it, I wish Cole was in these races just to 220 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,520 really take it to him. But we'll have to wait for 221 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:49,480 Cole's European takeover. But the star of the day, Keely 222 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,040 Hodgkinson, and I think this is just the beginning at like I 223 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,000 think I said a couple days ago, the first thing that'll fall 224 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,280 will be the indoor 800 meter world record. 225 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,760 And now I won't be shocked when the outdoor one happens in a 226 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,520 couple months. All right, that's a wrap on 227 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,800 today's episode. Thanks for listening, for the 228 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,760 time, the curiosity, and for making this show part of your 229 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,880 routine or your run. A big thanks to our producer 230 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,720 Jasmine Fair, and to everyone behind the scenes who helps make 231 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,280 the Sidious Mag podcast. Happen if you enjoyed. 232 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,480 Today's episode. 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