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Now if you Fast forward few 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,520 years and she's fully committed to the event. 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,360 In 2025 while at Harvard, she was the NCAA Indoor 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,680 Championships runner up and she ran an outdoor personal best of 66 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,840 159.48. She just opened up her indoor 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,560 season as a pro with an indoor PB of 2 flat .36. 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,840 Off the track, she's just as impressive. 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,680 She's got her degree in neuroscience. 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,320 She worked in a Harvard Medical School lab. 71 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,600 In our chat, she discusses how she managed to balance all of 72 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,920 that as a student athlete, how she comes at the 800 for more of 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,040 a sprinter background, and her goals for her first professional 74 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,520 season. So without further ado, here is. 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:12,840 Victoria boss on All Right, Victoria, welcome to 76 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,720 the City's Back podcast. And I feel like it's been just 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,519 like the worst kept secret of the fact that you are a 78 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,720 professional runner with New Balance, sort of officially had 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,880 like the hard launch this past weekend at the New Balance 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Indoor Grand Prix where you ran too flat for the 800, really 81 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,600 strong performance. How are we feeling? 82 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,160 I'm super excited. I have been itching just to get 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,840 this announcement out and I'm so glad it's now official. 84 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,480 This weekend was, I think, the most fun I've had at a meet 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,280 ever. The crowd was just so energetic 86 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,320 and I had such a great time. I'm just meeting all the other 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,360 athletes and on top of that I had a really great performance, 88 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,600 so I'm just really excited to be with New Balance and be able to 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,760 show that to the world now. I guess like, how much of this 90 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,960 is a is a dream come true and at the same time pretty reflective 91 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,320 of like another former Harvard star who went on to sign A New 92 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,840 Balance and things have turned out pretty great for her. 93 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,080 Gabby has been such an inspiration to me. 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,640 We actually are both the neuroscience majors, which is a 95 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,320 fun fact. So I just have looked up to her 96 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,720 for so long. I even wore like New Balance 97 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,040 spikes all of high school. So it's honestly like a dream 98 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,360 come true. This has been like a long time 99 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,120 coming. And I am just so grateful to be 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,400 with the be with the brand. And yeah, I'm excited for, you 101 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,800 know, what the future has in store for me. 102 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,320 All right, so you brought up the the neuroscience degree and 103 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,000 before we even talk track, I kind of want to learn a little 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,320 bit more about that. Just sort of like how I guess 105 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,640 you, you graduated, but then now is it similar to where like yard 106 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,320 and a goose, you know, wants to be a dentist and he's like, I'm 107 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,440 going to quit track at 30 or, you know, and then move on to 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,640 dental school. But for you, I guess, like, do 109 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,200 you want to put this degree to use a little bit sooner than 110 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,400 that? And like where? 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,480 Where did you leave? Off. 112 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Yeah, so I graduated in May with a degree in neuroscience and 113 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,880 secondary and global health and I got all my pre Med 114 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,640 requirements out of the way. So I my final goal is definitely 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,400 to be a doctor, but right now I'm really kind of just focused 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,400 on track and kind of giving in my all right now, I'm not sure 117 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,400 what the timeline looks like. I'm really just I want to have 118 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,120 the longest track career I can and when that is over I will 119 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,520 definitely be headed to Med school. 120 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,320 But right now definitely giving it my all in track. 121 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:28,040 So I'm sure just being a student athlete and how at Harvard is 122 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,080 demanding just sort of with striking that balance of the 123 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,880 class work and then athletics. But then on top of that, I feel 124 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,720 like it's got to be even tougher when you're, you know, in a 125 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,280 major like neuroscience, I guess. 126 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:41,760 What was the the hardest part? Honestly, college wasn't too bad 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,440 for like, figuring out how to balance everything. 128 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,840 I was. I was very, very involved in so 129 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,200 many extracurriculars in high school. 130 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,240 So going into college I was really, I had extracurriculars, 131 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,040 but like I was really focused on track and academics. 132 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,880 So those were the two things I was able to balance pretty well. 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,440 I was heavily involved in music as well in high school, and I 134 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 thought that's one thing I kind of got away from a bit in 135 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,240 college, which gave me a lot more time to focus on track. 136 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,200 But now that I have so much more free time, I'm actually getting 137 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,040 back into music, which I'm really excited about. 138 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,600 But really to like, to what extent is it? 139 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Is it like making your own songs, like performing musical 140 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,480 theatre? I like I. 141 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,520 It's more of like I, I played piano and violin like all my 142 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,000 life and I made a couple like songs when I was younger, but 143 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,600 they're, they're not very good, but they, it's definitely 144 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,960 something I'm, you know, getting back into and I love it just 145 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,320 with so much free time, like as a professional athlete, it was a 146 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,520 different type of challenge, kind of seeing like how to fill 147 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,760 my time. I've never had this problem 148 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,240 before. I've had so much structure in 149 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 the past and I was honestly like trying to figure out how to 150 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,920 manage everything. So now it's really fun to just, 151 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,320 you know, go back into things I used to love and pursue them a 152 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,120 bit more. Yeah, it's funny because I, when 153 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,920 I was talking to the the Providence girls who are now on 154 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Team New Balance Boston, I think that's one of the questions I 155 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,800 asked was like, well, one of the big differences, no more class. 156 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Like he got a ton of free time, like what are you doing? 157 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,280 And there I think they're still just sort of in the process of 158 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,640 of finding those hobbies. So for you, it's been music or 159 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,720 like what else has kind of added to those extra hours now that 160 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,200 you've got? Yeah, that's been something I've 161 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,320 really been leaning into and try to figure out in college, I was 162 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,680 definitely building up like my medical school resume with like 163 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,400 working in a lab and getting my clinical hours in and shadowing 164 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,320 and everything. And I definitely am going to 165 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,480 start like implementing that back into my schedule. 166 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,799 But I feel like this year I've really just wanted to fully go 167 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:40,280 in on track and see what I'm able to like add in in like the 168 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,280 next year's to come. I'm just seeing what I can 169 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,960 handle with my schedule. So right now I've, you know, 170 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,720 just, I moved into a new apartment. 171 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,360 I'm still in Boston, which is really nice. 172 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,280 I'm surrounded by the Harvard community still. 173 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,120 It's I'm very comfortable here. So I'm definitely going to see 174 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,600 what I'm going to start adding in in the future. 175 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,080 But right now I've really just been focusing on track and 176 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,320 music. And now that the season's here, 177 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,880 I'm going to be travelling so much. 178 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,040 So right now we're we're just locked in. 179 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:08,520 When was sort of like the the point for you, I guess like in 180 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,520 your collegiate career where you're just like, OK, I think I 181 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,720 do have a legit shot of pursuing post collegiate professional 182 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,400 running. Yeah, that's funny you asked 183 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,800 that. Professional running really 184 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,600 wasn't on my radar until the end of my junior year of college. 185 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,720 I in high school, I was very much a sprinter. 186 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,760 I did like the 55 in Maine and like the 124, and I did a few 8 187 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,000 hundreds. Not, not too many, maybe like 3. 188 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,520 And so in college, I, I just really wanted to be a 400m 189 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,360 runner. I love the 400 so much. 190 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,040 And my coach was always like, you should try the A, like you 191 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,400 should really do the A. And I was very much against it. 192 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,840 I think as like a Sprint based 800 runner when you aren't 193 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,760 training for the 8, the second lap hurt so bad. 194 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,640 And so I did not enjoy the event at all. 195 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,000 But once I started training for it a bit more like sophomore 196 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,520 into junior year, I, I fell in love with, with A. 197 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:04,120 And so I would say around, yeah, spring of junior year when I 198 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,000 dropped a bunch of time, I went from like 2O7 indoors to 2O 199 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,760 four, then 2O2, then 2 flat. Like really quickly. 200 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,960 I was like, OK, like I have a legitimate shot of being a 201 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,120 professional athlete. And since then it's kind of been 202 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,480 my goal. So I'm really happy I'm here 203 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,960 now. I guess on the men's side, 204 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,200 everyone always makes a big deal about like 4 minutes for the 205 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,320 mile and just sort of like the mental barrier that that can 206 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,640 sometimes be, or at least like it used to be, but then too flat 207 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,120 for the 800. What do you remember about 208 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,720 creeping up closer and closer to that barrier, then finally, you 209 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,320 know, smashing it? Yeah, one thing I really 210 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,840 remember about that time period was I took a lot of pressure off 211 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,480 of myself on the track and I was just having so much fun with it. 212 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,760 And it made it even more fun that I was able to just run fast 213 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,160 times. So I just found like when I 214 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,920 wasn't stressing myself out as much and just I was listening to 215 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,800 more like chill music before I was running and just kind of 216 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,720 just smiling on the line and just being grateful for the 217 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,080 opportunity. I found that my times were just 218 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,120 dropping and it was, it was just so exciting. 219 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,760 Like every week it was just time like dropping, dropping, 220 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,720 dropping. And it was pretty early on in 221 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,400 the season too. And I at that point I hadn't 222 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,000 even made like NCA's at all. And then at that time when I ran 223 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,920 too flat, I was like the number one time in the country. 224 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,560 So it was just a lot that happened super fast. 225 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,440 And yeah, right when that happened, it was that I still 226 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,400 remember that race. I was, I think my favorite race 227 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,240 of my life. I just had never even thought in 228 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,200 my mind that I could run too flat even earlier on in the 229 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,560 season. So it kind of just, you know, 230 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:32,680 broadens the horizons of like, what I think I'm capable of in 231 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:34,800 the future and kind of to never like, limit myself. 232 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,600 What was, I think, the biggest take away of the 800 at the NCA 233 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,000 level? Like in terms of just like 234 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,240 racing the likes of Juliet Rasheen, like, you know, 235 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,120 Michaela, like it was the last a couple of years have been so 236 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,400 rich in talent and I'm sure like you got enough reps against, you 237 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,720 know, those athletes. I guess what were some of the 238 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,080 biggest lessons you took away? Yeah, well, first of all, all 239 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,440 those ladies are so incredible. I've spoken to all of them and 240 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,440 you know, we have just such a great relationship. 241 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,480 I think we really enjoy just pushing each other. 242 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,040 And the 800, the event is just so deep, like the field of like 243 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,760 girls. It's like it could be anyone's 244 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,960 race anytime. And I think we really appreciate 245 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,200 each other for being able to push each other to like these 246 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,360 insane limits. Yeah. 247 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Like it's, it's interesting to see how you can come to the 800 248 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,800 like from so many different ways, like Sprint based, mile 249 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,680 based, and then we come together and we can run pretty similar 250 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,360 times. So it's just really fun being 251 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,520 able to push each push each other. 252 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,720 And it's nice also, like, you know, having Roshi now as a, as 253 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,200 a teammate and, you know, the other girls are just doing super 254 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,240 well in their own, like collegiate and professional 255 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,800 lives as well. So I'm excited for the rest of 256 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,120 the season to see what the girls can do. 257 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,920 Yeah, so before we started recording, I, we were kind of 258 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,080 laughing about just sort of the fact that I pulled up like your 259 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,360 your stats page and I'm just seeing like PRS in the 100, the 260 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,640 200, the 304 hundred. And then I was like, oh, OK, 261 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,360 like maybe she ran some of these like in high school. 262 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,720 And then I looked at just sort of like the 200 and I'm like, 263 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,840 no, like these PBS are from 2024 and 2025. 264 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,920 And so you 100% come from more of the Sprint background and 265 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,520 even another sort of like further clarification. 266 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,160 And when, you know, I was like, oh, so like Gibby's coaching you 267 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,160 and you're like, you know, actually like that's a common 268 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,200 misconception. So I guess like clear it up for 269 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,840 folks. I guess like what's sort of like 270 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,440 your, your training structure, like who's coaching you? 271 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Like who's in the group and like what do your workouts look like 272 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,800 in a week? Yeah, So I'm coached by coach 273 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,440 Keva Tolbert and during college I trained with like the Sprint 274 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,760 group the whole time. So I've been on the four by one. 275 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,320 Like there's some meats. I was on the four by one and 276 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,520 then I'd run at 800 or I know like a meet last year, like I 277 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:40,360 ran like 400 and like 1000 so. Yeah. 278 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,880 What's the craziest like meet schedule you've had? 279 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:49,240 I would say probably those two, I think like I like the 400 to 280 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,040 1000 was a pretty drastic change. 281 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,080 And I remember that me like I got the school record in like 282 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,320 both of them and I was very proud of that just because I 283 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,240 kind of showcased like my depth in like in like my versatility 284 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,000 in like the different events And I, I had never read 1000 before. 285 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,080 That was really fun, but it felt just so different going from, 286 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,360 you know, going out of blocks to like being like, OK, I got to 287 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,920 slow down this first lap so I don't die the rest of the race. 288 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,520 So that was super fun. But yeah, so I do like, I do box 289 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,400 starts on Mondays a lot of the times. 290 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Sometimes, you know, I'll do like tempo days. 291 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,840 Now I implement long runs, but it's probably not as long as 292 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,720 others. Yeah, what's your long run right 293 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,920 now? OK, well now I've actually gone 294 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,080 to an hour, so that's really good for me. 295 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Last year I didn't really do like long runs. 296 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,360 I would do a lot on the bike just 'cause I just had different 297 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,640 like foot issues. But now sometimes I'll do like 298 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,320 30 minutes running 30 minutes on the bike. 299 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,760 So that's kind of what my Sundays look like. 300 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,240 So I don't have any days off now, but that's kind of like my 301 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,440 like recovery day. So I do things like Sprint flow, 302 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,160 Sprint. I, I clean like super heavy. 303 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,200 I do like bench and squat. I'm in the weight room like 5 to 304 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,040 6 * a week. But I also do like longer things 305 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,840 like I'll do like I'm getting, I'm trying to get up to like 306 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,600 doing like thousands, like 4 by 1000. 307 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,520 It's like a very staple workout. Not quite there yet, but I do 308 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,440 like some days I'll do like 20 by 200 with like a 2200 meter 309 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,320 jog in between. So it's like 42 hundreds. 310 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,760 So I'm, it's just like there's a lot going on, but it's super 311 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,120 fun. And I always want to keep that 312 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Sprint side in me because I just love running fast And I, I 313 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,520 really enjoy being able to, you know, run a 200 every now and 314 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,240 then. Just makes me feel like I'm 315 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,720 still like a sprinter. What's your ideal or perfect 316 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,800 pacing to run, say one 58159 for the 800 If you had it your way 317 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,200 and you felt great the entire way, I guess like what's the 318 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,480 1st? Is it pretty even split or do 319 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,960 you have a preference on like, all right, I'm gonna give myself 320 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,760 enough of a cushion to die in that final, you know, the final 321 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,200 part. I think the latter 1 is what I 322 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,200 used to prefer and I I think I like deep down kind of do you 323 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,080 prefer? But my coach is really having me 324 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,480 like focus on just trying to have more even splits. 325 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,560 It does make the race just feel more comfortable and you just 326 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,000 like feel like you're putting a little bit more effort in like 327 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,320 than every single like next 200. But you know, trying to get as 328 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,960 close to like 20 nines, like 29 point for every single one is, 329 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,240 is my goal. So I've been doing better at 330 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,080 that, like the first this past weekend and at New Val's Grand 331 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Prix, my splits were pretty even compared to usual. 332 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,160 So hopefully this year we'll we'll be able to nail it. 333 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,840 So with seeing all these distances on your like stats 334 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,600 page and like the one thing I don't see is a mild PR. 335 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,920 So like, you know, the idea or concept of of a mile. 336 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,360 Does it just sound like crazy long to you? 337 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,840 Yes, I do think that I want to. I want I want to run a mile at 338 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,720 some point, not because I would enjoy it, but I think it would 339 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,880 be good to build up some like mental resilience. 340 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,640 I think the Thousand was fun. I will say I did enjoy that, but 341 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,120 two mile just sounds so long. Like it's funny because that 342 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,160 practice like I do run really long. 343 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,520 Like I will run like, you know, volumes of like like 4K, which 344 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,440 for me is long, but I don't know, doing a mile, it does 345 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,200 sound really daunting. But I think, you know, the 800 346 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,640 used to sound super daunting to me and doing 1000, I'd be like I 347 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,240 would never do that. So I think I think a mile is in 348 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,720 the cars. I'm not sure for this year, but 349 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,680 I definitely will be implementing that in the future 350 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,520 I think. You kind of just got to RIP the 351 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Band-Aid off and like find one of those weekends where it's 352 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,880 like right, there's a meet at BU and I could sneak into maybe 353 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,320 like the 4th heat and no one will pay attention. 354 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,400 If it goes bad, then no one has to know. 355 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,760 Like that's the way to do it I feel like. 356 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Exactly, exactly. That's that's the plan. 357 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,680 All right, so of this past year, I guess what, when you close the 358 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,080 chapter on your career at Harvard, what's your you? 359 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,080 You kind of mentioned like what your favorite race was. 360 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,640 But if I even go back to just sort of like the runner up 361 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,360 finish in the 800, like where does that stack up for you as 362 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:54,680 sort of like best moments in a Harvard uniform? 363 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,720 Yeah, there are so many just great moments. 364 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Wow. Yeah, that that that race was 365 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,800 super exciting. And that was the first like I've 366 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,880 never made indoor nationals until like last year. 367 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:10,120 And the goal going in was like, you know, to win, which some 368 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:11,920 people might think would be crazy because like, I've never 369 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,800 even made like internationals before. 370 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,440 But you know, finishing second was super exciting. 371 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,640 I was really proud of that effort. 372 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,680 But even like I'm super proud of races where even like I don't 373 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,280 even run PRS, like even like USA is outdoor. 374 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,200 I just had a super tough summer just with training and different 375 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,520 like health issues. And so coming back at like USA 376 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,680 is an outdoor when I wore a New Balance for the first time was 377 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,120 it was a really proud moment for me because I just worked super 378 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:40,120 hard in the summer and it was, it was hard like having 379 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:42,920 graduated and being the only one left on campus, training alone 380 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,720 all summer, going to different doctor's appointments and 381 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,240 everything. So I was really proud of that 382 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,120 race, even though it wasn't a PR, but one race I will or one 383 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:54,800 me I will definitely remember for the rest of my life was it 384 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,400 was like the last chance meet at BU last year. 385 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,400 We had our last chance to qualify both our 4x4 and our DMR 386 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,920 for nationals, and there weren't too many people at the meet 387 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,880 because there were like, there weren't just too many entries. 388 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,600 The crowd like not too many people were there, no one there. 389 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,040 But so we had around like 100 minutes to do. 390 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,680 I let off the 4 by 4 and then after I had to run the 800 leg 391 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,000 of the DMR and I just remember our team was so supportive. 392 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,680 Like we were warming up the 4x4. We write a go on the line in 393 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,280 like 5 minutes and like our entire like Harvard team just 394 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,080 like came there with signs and they were cheering and they were 395 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,800 just so excited for us. And without them, I don't know 396 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,840 if we would have been able to qualify. 397 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,760 We qualified like we like, I think we ran like by ourselves 398 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:42,160 and we, we hit the mark to, you know, beat top 12 in the relay 399 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,800 to qualify. That was super exciting. 400 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,240 Came back in the DMR, qualify the DMR and it was just such an 401 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,160 exciting day. And then at nationals, both of 402 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 our teams were first team, all Americans. 403 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,880 So it was just a super special day and just definitely one for 404 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,240 the books. What's your favorite heps memory 405 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,760 because it's such a big deal for you guys. 406 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,120 Like in the Ivy League, I feel like everyone's got like their 407 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,400 one favorite moment. Yeah. 408 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,080 Yeah, there there are so many, but one I definitely will always 409 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,680 remember is my sophomore year we had HEPS at Penn and the guys 410 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,320 and girls team both won like the HEPS title. 411 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,640 And that was just a super special moment just to share it 412 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,720 with the whole team. And yeah, I think it was the 413 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,360 first time an Ivy League team has won like men's and women's. 414 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,800 I I could be wrong about that, but I think it was and it was 415 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,680 super exciting. The team was just I've never 416 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,640 seen that much excitement. 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So I'm also looking at just sort 450 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:30,440 of like your your 2025 season and I just realized like I've 451 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,000 rarely had to scroll so much on someone's results page. 452 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,160 And like now thinking more about it, just sort of like you 453 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,680 reached the semifinals of like USA is in the 800, but no one 454 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,880 else like on those start in the start line of the semifinals has 455 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,600 probably raced as much as you. You had results last year from 456 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:55,120 200300400500608100K and then a ton of four by fours. 457 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,280 I guess like at last year when it finally came to an end, was 458 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,560 it, I'm, I'm guessing it was at, at USA. 459 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,040 It's like, was it just sort of like, all right, we're done for 460 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,200 the for the summer? Yeah, I will say it was a very 461 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,320 long year last year. In general though, I don't take 462 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520 too long of breaks in the summer like I did U 20s after my 463 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,120 freshman year and then even in high school, like I would train 464 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:19,480 pretty consistently through the summer. 465 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,880 But last year was just emotionally, it was just so much 466 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:28,600 like good and bad, but it was just so exciting just the entire 467 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,160 year. There was so many ups and downs 468 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,880 and just to finally like compete at USA's and finally be in that 469 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,240 New Balance kit in semis. It was funny because I ran the 470 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,480 first round in Harvard and then I ran a New Balance in semis. 471 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,840 So it was just a full circle moment and I was just really 472 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,280 proud of all like the effort me and my teammates have put in 473 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,640 this whole year. It was a very long season and I 474 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,560 definitely am keeping that in mind as I go into this 475 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,480 professional year because I know the professional season is, you 476 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,200 know, shifted a bit and very long. 477 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,520 But it was it was a great year last year, definitely my 478 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,120 favorite year in track and field thus far. 479 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,480 I think I just counted it. I might be maybe off by one or 480 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,280 two, but I think it's it was 11/4 by fours and then more than 481 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,680 a dozen 8 hundreds. You had it looks like 5 or 6 482 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,760 four hundreds, both indoor and outdoors. 483 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,800 I I mean it just felt like I I'd be so curious to see like when 484 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,120 you add it all up, like what was the total distance raced by you 485 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:28,200 last year? So it's it's it's, it's wild 486 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,040 just how much. You raised? 487 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, it's funny. 488 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,240 I didn't even realize that I raced that much. 1144 by fours 489 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,440 is a lot. Yeah, that's one thing I will 490 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,320 miss the four by fours. We just had such a strong team 491 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,200 and just such like a strong bond in friendship across like our 492 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,640 4x4. And we just achieved so much 493 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,200 last year. But yeah, I mean, competing so 494 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,240 much, it was fun just being able to touch so many different 495 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,920 events. And yeah, I mean, I was able to 496 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,760 improve my 800 time again last year, which was exciting. 497 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,760 And yeah, I think this year we're definitely going to take a 498 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,960 breather. And I think indoors I'll 499 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,400 probably after this weekend, I'll compete one more before 500 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,560 USA. So definitely toning it down a 501 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,120 little bit. You have the experience that 502 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:16,360 like if you know, Team USA was like we need you for a 4 by 4, 503 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,480 like what? What would be sort of like your 504 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,600 preference on like the the leg you run for a four by four since 505 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,080 you ran so many of them last year. 506 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Did you learn something about yourself? 507 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,040 You're like, you know what? I am very reliable on this leg. 508 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,400 I feel like I've gone back and forth between anchor and first 509 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,200 leg. I think indoors I was anchor for 510 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,440 most of it, but and then outdoors I think I was first 511 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,920 like I, I love anchor. I think the adrenaline really 512 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,520 gets me going and I just love, you know, whatever place we're 513 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,760 in. I just want to like bring a home 514 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,520 for the team and just love crossing the line and be able to 515 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,360 like run up to my my girls and just hug them and like just be 516 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,280 super excited about what we're able to accomplish. 517 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,640 So I love anchor. I think even though there's a 518 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,040 lot of nerves there, there's like an equal amount of I meant. 519 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,200 Yeah. All right. 520 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,400 So I want to hear just sort of like your favorite thing and 521 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,640 least favorite thing about each of these events because you do 522 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,840 have like this versatility. So favorite thing and least 523 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800 favorite thing about the let's go with the I guess the hundred 524 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,920 you haven't you haven't raised since since high school. 525 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,680 I haven't. I've been on the four by ones 526 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,720 and I almost ran at one meet but then I think I was like hurt so 527 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,120 I haven't run it since high school. 528 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,920 OK, Favorite thing about the 100? 529 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,080 Least favorite thing with the 100? 530 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Favorite thing I just love feeling so fast, like you just 531 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,840 get to go all out like at one time and I just am not able to 532 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,040 do that anymore in the 8. So I just feel like so speedy 533 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,760 and I I love using blocks. So I just love being able to 534 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,200 have like 1 all out run. Least favorite thing, I think 535 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,080 just technically there's a lot of room like for error and I 536 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,720 feel like if you aren't just like so on it like one wrong 537 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,160 step and it could cost you the race. 538 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,480 Whereas in the 8 or even like the four, it's like there's a 539 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,880 lot more room for error. 200. I love being able to run like 540 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480 like do like the slingshot, like around the curve. 541 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,520 And so that's like kind of like the fun part of the race for me. 542 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,120 Least fun part. OK, I think this is kind of just 543 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,080 about the race as a whole. It's weird because my my 100 544 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,680 times and my 400 times from high school, I think we're both like 545 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,000 better comparatively than the 2. So for some reason I just had a 546 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,120 weird relationship with that raise because like my 100 was 547 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,400 like pretty competitive and my 400 is pretty competitive. 548 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,480 And my two, it was like good, but it wasn't as good as the 549 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,560 other two events and I wasn't sure why there was like a gap. 550 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,160 That's so funny because I was the total opposite. 551 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,000 I hated the 100 and the 400, but I just loved the 200. 552 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,400 It was it was my favorite, all right, 400 favorite and least 553 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,840 favorite thing. OK, so I think my favorite and 554 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,560 least favorite thing are kind of the same thing. 555 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960 It's kind of like the last like the home stretch. 556 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,960 I think, you know, that lactic really hits you hard. 557 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,920 But I feel like it's so motivating for me. 558 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,400 And I really, I love the burn like in workouts, like no matter 559 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,160 what workout I do, like when I start to feel pain, it's 560 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,360 sometimes it's like it's exciting for me. 561 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,160 Like it, it's fuel and it gets me going. 562 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,160 And I think that like, you know, the last 50 meters is maybe my 563 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,400 strongest part of my race because it really taps into your 564 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800 mental. And I like to think I'm mentally 565 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,520 strong. And so, you know, the last 50, 566 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,080 it hurts, but it can be like the part of the race that like wins 567 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800 me in the race. All right, then we'll go to the 568 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,360 eight favorite and least favorite. 569 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,320 OK, I like being able to go through the 400 at a very 570 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,400 comfortable pace. I'm like, OK, like this is fine. 571 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,360 Like so I think my my favorite part is like the first half of 572 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,120 the race and my least favorite part is the second-half. 573 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,360 I think just getting more comfortable with pacing has been 574 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,640 the biggest challenge for me. I think a lot of times I'm in 575 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,600 very good shape in like just in general, like in whatever part 576 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440 of the season and then I run an A and it doesn't showcase the 577 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 true shape I'm in because I'm not able to execute like the 578 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,200 race plan. So I would say 8. 579 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,280 I like being able to, yeah, the first part of the race is fun 580 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,520 because it's very comfortable. But the least favorite part is 581 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,360 that there's just, there's just more strategy. 582 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,600 Just running like next to people like is somewhat new for me. 583 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,160 I know in the like outdoors and like I never ran with people 584 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,680 'cause even in the 400 during your own lane. 585 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,960 So being able to like having to like navigate, you know, being 586 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,120 boxed in and just being in different scenarios, like going 587 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,080 into any race. I, I love having like a race 588 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,400 plan and I envision my race so many times before I run. 589 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,440 And in the 8, it's hard to do that sometimes because you have 590 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,880 no idea what it's going to be thrown at you. 591 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,520 So yeah, that's that I would say. 592 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Yeah, that, that last point that you raised is, is exactly what, 593 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,120 you know, a couple months back when I was talking to Femka 594 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,000 Bulls coach about just sort of making this transition from the 595 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280 400 hurdles to the 800. He was like, that's probably one 596 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,920 of the biggest things that she's going to have to learn is just 597 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,360 sort of like having to learn to run in a pack and then being 598 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,600 reactive to other people's moves, I guess with your coach 599 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000 at Harvard. I guess like, what was it that 600 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,320 you guys really, you know, honed in on to make you feel 601 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,880 comfortable in an in an 800? Yeah, I think, I think part of 602 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,600 the hard thing for me was that I don't really train with anyone. 603 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,040 Even in high school or in college, there were some days I 604 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,720 had to get training partners for more like 400 workouts, but any 605 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,840 800 workout by myself. And now this past, you know, 606 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,200 this pro season, I'm like completely by myself. 607 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,560 So it is hard not having anyone even in practice to just like, 608 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,240 be around. Like at the race this past 609 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,080 weekend, I was like, oh, wow. Like there people around me, 610 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840 like this is new. But I would say my coach always 611 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,160 just tells me to like, you know, get in my rhythm and just like 612 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,840 keep my rhythm. Like if you keep your rhythm, 613 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,440 like, you know, if someone's there, just kind of like, go 614 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,680 around them and keep that rhythm. 615 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720 So that's the thing. I feel like, I try to just kind 616 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,200 of pretend that there's no one there and just like, kind of 617 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,600 feel, you know, the rhythm of it and like the tempo of like the 618 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,560 way my feet are hitting the crown and just keep that up the 619 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,120 whole time, no matter who's around and just make smart 620 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,800 decisions and like react in terms of how I'm feeling and 621 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,360 just to keep that pace up. But I, I, I have had some races 622 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,240 where I'm just like accelerating, decelerating, like 623 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,040 making like 10 moves and it's just, and then I finished the 624 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,000 race. I'm like, I don't even know what 625 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080 just happened. So I think this year, like the 626 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,720 goal was just to like, you know, just race smart and just make 627 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,440 like, you know, like 2 moves. I remember just hearing stories 628 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,160 about, you know, other, you know, 800 meter college stars 629 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,200 and like their high school days of just sort of getting the call 630 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880 at like the state meet or a conference meet or whatever it 631 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,040 is. And it's like, yeah, we're going 632 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,600 to have you quadruple and we're going to have you run the 102 633 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,640 hundred 400 relay. So for you with this versatility 634 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,840 that you have, like was that as evident in in in high school for 635 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,560 you? I actually have a funny story. 636 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:45,160 So I at my state meet in high school, I told my coach I wanted 637 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,240 to run the 102 hundred, 400 and 800 all on the same mean. 638 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,560 And there wasn't too much time in between. 639 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,280 And so at that, and I hadn't really run the 800 at all, but I 640 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,960 was like, I just kind of want to do it just, you know, just 641 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,160 hopefully I can like win state titles and everything. 642 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240 If I could pull this off, yeah. Exactly. 643 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,600 So the day started is like I, I won the 100. 644 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,840 I, I PR DI think I ran like 11-6 something and then I went and 645 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,200 ran the four and I, I kind of cruised that one because I, I 646 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,720 knew I kind of like had that. And then I think the 8 was after 647 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,560 and I also won that. And then I think I literally had 648 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,360 maybe like 15 minutes until the two and I had to run a pretty 649 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,760 fast 8. Like I didn't need to run as 650 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,360 fast as I did, But I, I think I got like the state meet record 651 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,760 or something. I was just like going for it, 652 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,720 which I don't think I should have done because the 200 I, I 653 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880 died, I got second. So it was still good, but I 654 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,880 really wanted like all four. So that was a bit of a bummer. 655 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,400 But what was funny about that meet was my college coach 656 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,560 actually surprised me. And he came to that meet to 657 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,720 support me. And that's when I had run the 658 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,880 800. And so we had dinner at my house 659 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760 after and we went for like a walk after. 660 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280 And he just talking to me about, you know, when I'm excited to 661 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,360 run in college. And he's like, you know, like I 662 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,880 see you as like an all American in the 800. 663 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,120 And I was like what? Like absolutely not. 664 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,640 Like I do not run the 8. Like I just did it at this meet 665 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,200 just cuz I like wanted to do it for fun. 666 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,520 He's like, no, like I can see he was an 800 runner. 667 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,040 I was like, no, I'm a 400 runner. 668 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,640 I'm not an 800 runner. And so it's funny to look back 669 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,760 now cuz he was right all along. And I I definitely trust him a 670 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,400 lot more with making decisions about my training. 671 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,920 That's awesome. Was was track always it for you 672 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,800 I guess, or was there a moment where you went all in? 673 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,960 I know you mentioned like the music side kind of things, but I 674 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,400 mean in sport was it always track? 675 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,760 I was really lucky. My parents put me in so many 676 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,560 sports growing up. I loved basketball, soccer and 677 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,080 softball. I think those were my main 678 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,840 three. I did like AAU basketball for 679 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,320 many years and then going and I did track for like a year I 680 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,840 think in like middle school. But I was very serious about 681 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,760 basketball and so I did feel bad when I went to high school and I 682 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200 told my mom like, you know, I don't think I'm doing basketball 683 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,680 anymore because she had just, you know, been everywhere in the 684 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,920 country for me, like going to all these tournaments. 685 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,159 And I was like, no, I think I'm going to do track, which I 686 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,320 hadn't done seriously at all. So I did soccer my freshman year 687 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,400 and then I did track. And then after starting freshman 688 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,120 summer, I just trained like basically year round for track. 689 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,679 I just, I found a lot of success my freshman freshman year on the 690 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,560 track. So I didn't want to get injured 691 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,120 on the soccer field field, and I knew I had a lot of potential on 692 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,080 track. So I kind of went all in on 693 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,719 track since then. So it was, and I think in high 694 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,520 school I was music was pretty big for me. 695 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,280 Like music and track were pretty equivalent. 696 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,320 I was like a pretty competitive like violinist and pianist. 697 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,440 But now definitely I feel like my identity is more on the 698 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,320 track. Yeah. 699 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,639 So I mean, I guess like there are programs that you can go to 700 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,840 for music that are like really, really good. 701 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,000 I guess for you at like in that recruiting process for track, 702 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,440 like was that also something that you tried to balance is 703 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,480 like I wanna find at least like if it's not at the school, a 704 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,360 city where I could like be somewhat able to tap like that 705 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,920 creative side of my brain or like, how did you and I guess 706 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,640 try and balance that? Yeah, I think I kind of always 707 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,720 knew I wanted to go to Harvard since I was pretty young, like 708 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960 elementary school. My family is a very academic 709 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,680 family. My mom really instilled that in 710 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,200 us. So I feel like even with all the 711 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,080 success on the track at Harvard, it was kind of a no brainer for 712 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,480 me. So I didn't like my recruiting 713 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,960 process was pretty simple. I kind of knew I was going to go 714 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,800 to Harvard and I didn't really consider too many other places. 715 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,640 So it was easy. It was a blessing and I'm really 716 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,320 happy with the decision I made. But music will definitely be 717 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,600 making come back, come back soon. 718 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,840 I'm looking forward to it. I mean, that sounds so cool. 719 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,520 So where did when did you sort of have to, when did you start 720 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,360 to pick up the, I guess violin is what you said? 721 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,640 Yeah, right. Yeah, I started violin and piano 722 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,840 when I was probably like four or five. 723 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,880 I feel like that's a skill that like you can't pick up in your 724 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,240 30s. It's just sort of like you have 725 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:09,000 to be so young to be able to just become a phenom or just 726 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,280 really good at. Like if if I were to try and 727 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,880 pick up a violin or or take piano lessons, I just would be 728 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,560 so frustrated. But there's just sort of like a 729 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,120 patience that children have to be able to develop the skill. 730 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,720 I agree. And I think I think even though 731 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,480 you know, I have didn't haven't focused on it recently, I think, 732 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,960 you know, just going all in on music at such an early age 733 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,000 before I even was really doing track at all has brought me so 734 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,400 many things I've kind of like showcased on the track. 735 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,360 Just with just going all in on training and just having 736 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,240 patience and just like different technical things, I feel like I 737 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,120 just have gotten a lot from music that I've been able to 738 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,920 translate onto the track. Is it also just sort of like a 739 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,760 pretty cool like party trick that you could pull out? 740 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,200 Oh, if you see just like a violin or not that anyone has 741 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,360 just sort of a violin like laying around at A at a party, 742 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,920 but it's just sort of like, oh, you see a piano. 743 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,560 Then all of a sudden I think piano is always just like a cool 744 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,840 one to Oh, all of a sudden I could play whatever song at a 745 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,600 party and people think it's like the coolest thing. 746 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,800 Yes, yes, I definitely love it. I, I, it's a sort of like 747 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,160 meditation for me. Totally. 748 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,800 I feel like that's something that like I've been trying to, 749 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,400 you know, really focus on like self-care and like preserving my 750 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,040 mental health, especially with track being like so mentally 751 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,760 like exhausting and draining at some points. 752 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,320 And so, you know, going back to music, it has honestly brought 753 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,520 me a lot of peace. And it's kind of like my outlet 754 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,880 a bit from like the track. All right, so paint the picture 755 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,560 for us in terms of what the perfect like 9 to 5 day is for 756 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,280 you. Now that you get to call, you 757 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,080 know, running your, your professional job. 758 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,760 And then also just sort of from the moment you wake up to when 759 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,120 you go to bed, where would you find the time to carve in just 760 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,120 sort of like the, the music side of things. 761 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,760 So the perfect day. What's it look like? 762 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,520 Yeah, well, one thing about me is I love to sleep. 763 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,640 I I can sleep for like 12 hours straight and I could just keep 764 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,840 sleeping. So I I need a like at least like 765 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,880 10 to 12 hours of sleep would be ideal for me. 766 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,120 I would love like some nice acai in the morning or some like 767 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,480 fruit bowl. I feel like that's like my 768 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,720 favorite, like breakfast. I feel like the morning. 769 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,240 I like to have like slower mornings. 770 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,160 I don't like to rush like getting out of the house. 771 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,520 And I, I don't usually train till like one or two in the 772 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,080 afternoon. So the mornings would definitely 773 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,760 be where I would fit in my music. 774 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,320 I think. So definitely I, I'm trying to 775 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,880 get a piano. My apartment's kind of small, 776 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,280 but I do want to get a keyboard here. 777 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,240 I have a guitar. Actually. 778 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,520 I've been, I've been trying to like pick up the guitar, but I 779 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,200 started during COVID, so that's like a side thing, but not very 780 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,240 proficient in that. So I think I would play in the 781 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:46,440 morning and obviously have a good lunch, maybe have some like 782 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,840 Thai food. I I really like Thai food and 783 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,960 then head to the track and I'm usually at the track. 784 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,320 Like Thai food before the track? I OK, so one thing also about me 785 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,360 is I can, I can eat like I'm someone like on race day, like I 786 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,880 can have a whole bowl. Like I, I can eat before 787 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,800 workouts. Like sometimes I eat too close 788 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,120 to the workouts and my kids are like, are you gonna throw up? 789 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,720 I I never have. So I one thing about that I love 790 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,640 like having a full stomach before a workout. 791 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,800 So yes, Thai food I love like pod Thai's my favorite food. 792 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,000 So that's why I go to the track and yeah, trainings, I'm usually 793 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,440 there from like one or two to like 7, kind of depends on the 794 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,360 day. Yeah. 795 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,040 And after that, when I get home, I honestly just like to 796 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,480 socialize and like hang out with my roommate. 797 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,200 I feel like in college, that's one thing I didn't prioritize as 798 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 much was like my friendships and just relationships and like 799 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,480 socializing just because I had so much more going on. 800 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,080 But it's really nice being able to just have someone else to 801 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,120 talk to about, you know, if someone working a corporate job, 802 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,040 just something with like a different lifestyle. 803 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,200 And we just, yeah, we, we've just grown really close. 804 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,280 So that would honestly be my, that is honestly most of my 805 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,200 days. Well, listen. 806 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,000 And what time is bedtime since you do just love sleep? 807 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,440 OK, so that's one thing I'm trying to get better at. 808 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,920 It's going to bed early. I do love sleep, but like it's 809 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,760 like I could just sleep in to like noon, which is not good 810 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,360 because I need to get breakfast in obviously. 811 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,040 I'm trying to have my bedtime be 10:00 PM. 812 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,640 But I, I am a night owl, so it's making it really hard for me. 813 00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:12,960 So we're trying to shift it to, to 10. 814 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,440 I, I will say it's a bit later right now, but that's, that's 815 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,160 ideal. All right. 816 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:23,200 So to wrap up, I guess what are with 2026 being just like AI 817 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,480 guess like an off year technically like what are your 818 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,760 big hopes and in terms of what you want to kind of go after and 819 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,960 explore this year? I feel like the big thing this 820 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,240 year is I, I didn't want to my first year to be, you know, 821 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:36,960 sometimes you go to college and your first year is kind of like, 822 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,560 oh, just your freshman year, Like it, whatever happens, 823 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,640 happens. I feel like I just don't want 824 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,560 that to be my first year as a professional. 825 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,960 I feel like I'm, I haven't changed anything really in my 826 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,200 training since last year. I'm with the same coach, same 827 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,400 facilities, doing basically the same workouts. 828 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,600 So I just want to keep my momentum going with whatever 829 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,680 time that, you know, whatever time I'm able to run, I'll be 830 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,960 very happy to see, you know, what I'm able to accomplish on 831 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,000 the track side of things. But I think last year I, I was 832 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,080 in a lot better shape than I was able to run at meats. 833 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,280 So I'm hoping to be able to like close the gap between what I'm 834 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,240 able to do in practice and what, how I'm able to perform, because 835 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:16,440 I think that is what's hindering me the most right now. 836 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,840 I feel like a lot of times I'm in pretty good shape and then 837 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,120 I'm not able to show that on the track. 838 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,280 So that's what I'm I'm my biggest goal for this year is. 839 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,440 Do you have a time trial or something like that from 840 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,480 practice that really sticks out in your memory where you're like 841 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,480 like, that was such a good practice. 842 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,360 I wish that would have translated on race day. 843 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,640 Yeah, definitely. Last year I had a few workouts 844 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,040 where I would do like a 600 and then some other things and I was 845 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,760 running 124 and that was yeah. For context, I guess for people 846 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,960 it's like the Keely's world record is what, 123, right? 847 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,640 I think so somehow, yeah, it could be much faster than that. 848 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,000 But I was, it was like, yeah, 124 point like it was. 849 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,440 And it I did it at a couple different workouts. 850 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,960 So, you know, going into regionals and Ncas, I was super 851 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,400 hopeful. I was like, I'm in great shape. 852 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,240 Like I felt great. Like I was super excited. 853 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,240 And then I just wasn't able to quite show that in the 800. 854 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,040 So I definitely want to keep up my speed and do more of those 855 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,840 workouts and just be able to translate them on the track. 856 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,000 So I'm excited to what's to come. 857 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000 All right, so what's the rest of the indoor schedule looking like 858 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,280 for you? So this weekend I'm actually 859 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,480 doing a 500 tomorrow at BU, so I'm super excited about that. 860 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,400 The 500 might be my favorite race. 861 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,960 Like it's between the five and the 8 right now. 862 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,200 I feel like I have to say the 8:00 just because it's my event, 863 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,160 but I do love the five. What's the 500 American record? 864 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,600 It's such a weird distance that like I'm sure you might you 865 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880 might find yourself like up there on the all time list 866 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,840 without even realizing. Yeah, Yeah. 867 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,880 Honestly, I might look at that. I ran like my junior year at 868 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,880 HAPS, actually, I ran like 1085, which was pretty fast. 869 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,880 So I think I actually I'll look at that tonight. 870 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,800 I'm trying to pull it up as as you go and and and share it 871 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,200 right now, but yeah. OK, yeah. 872 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,320 So I have the 500 and then I'm pacing the K at Melrose on 873 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,120 Sunday, so I'll fly there on Saturday to make great field, I 874 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,080 think. I think they get the American 875 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,760 record as well, Yeah. That's the CS Mag women's 1K, So 876 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,640 it's it's the rest that we're sponsoring. 877 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,840 And so yeah, the the pace job is in is in your trusted hands. 878 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,600 Yes, and I'll, I'll take it very seriously and then I think I'll 879 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,800 do one more 800 before USA. So very short season, but I 880 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,080 think it's good. I I like the whole outdoor 881 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,840 season will be going for many, many months. 882 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,440 I probably have like 7 more months ahead of me. 883 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,480 So definitely taking it slow. All right, I found out what the 884 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,640 the American record is in the 500. 885 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:45,280 The IT is 6734 by Courtney Akolo back in 2017. 886 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,320 Yeah. And I guess a lot of people have 887 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,160 run like 68 for the US Raven Rodgers 68 high. 888 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640 So yeah, it's such a funny distance. 889 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,160 I never really gave too much thought to the 500. 890 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,400 Yeah, OK. Well, hopefully I'll I'll be 891 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,000 able to go after that and close the gap of. 892 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,960 It Yeah, there you go Well, Victoria, this has been a joy to 893 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,560 get to know you and to share a bit more to celebrate, I guess 894 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:17,480 you signing with New Balance and looking forward to seeing you in 895 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,880 action in the CDs Mag Women's 1K. 896 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,400 It'll be a blast, but then best of luck. 897 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,560 The rest of the indoor seat. Thank you and thank you so much 898 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,000 for having me. All right, that's a wrap on 899 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,280 today's episode. Thanks for listening, for the 900 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,240 time, the curiosity, and for making this show part of your 901 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:37,360 routine or your run. 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