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What's good people? 
Welcome to the Light Minds 

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podcast. 
Today's episode I'm joined by 

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Scott Finley, who is a 
motivational speaker and the 

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founder of Inner Hype, a self 
improvement brand with a bit of 

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A twist. 
In this episode, Scott gets into

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why the self improvement space 
has a people problem, the 

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difference between being pushed 
by fear and being pulled by 

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purpose while your environment 
matters more than motivation and

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what it actually means to keep 
your own hype alive every single

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day. 
I will admit I feel like I've 

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made a bit of a cock up and the 
audio from my end is pretty bad.

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Sounds like I'm talking for a 
sock. 

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It is listenable but it's not 
the Chris quality that I'm used 

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to so I do apologise about that 
but it can't be perfect. 

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There is some imperfections 
along the way but hopefully the 

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message is all the same. 
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channel and get this to more 
like minded people who need to 

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hear these conversations. 
But without any further ado, 

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please welcome Scott. 
Scott, welcome to the show. 

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Appreciate it. 
Thank you. 

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How you doing? 
Good. 

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Good. 
Yeah, always good. 

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Nice to speak to you, people 
like yourself. 

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Yeah, definitely. 
I'm, I'm looking forward to this

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conversation. 
I feel like it might be a a bit 

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of self improvement tennis. 
We're going to go back and forth

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with some things, but it's going
to be exciting. 

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The first question before we get
into all of that, that I asked 

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all of my guests is what is a 
like minded person to you? 

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Like minded person to me. 
Well, for, for me, I always, I 

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now believe that, you know, 
energy radiates energy. 

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So if I was to pick and if I 
wanted to socialise with 

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somebody that they would have to
radiate that same sort of energy

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and be on that same sort of 
level. 

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I mean, I'm more than happy. 
For me, I have kind of always 

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made it my challenge that if I 
was to go into a room and it 

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didn't have the energy that I 
wanted, then I would see that as

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a challenge to try and bring 
that that mood, that vibe up to 

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my level of energy. 
So I do think that a like minded

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person for me really is somebody
that's just enthusiastic about 

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life. 
They've got a bit more to give 

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in a conversation in, you know, 
going out doing things and just 

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just having that vibe around 
them. 

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So yeah. 
Yeah, no, I like it. 

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So before we get into the space 
that you're in now with the 

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motivational speaking, which I'm
really interested to kind of 

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talk about, what was life kind 
of like? 

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What's your background story? 
How have you managed to get into

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what you were doing now? 
Background story for me. 

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So obviously born with a hearing
impairment, probably about 50% 

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hearing loss. 
So that has had its challenges 

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grown up, but again, I like to 
think that the little challenges

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that I've had throughout my 
life, they've built up the 

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characteristics to, to be the 
person that I am today. 

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I mean, again, I could just be 
talking to shite and, and you 

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know, it is what it is, but 
until you become self aware of 

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certain situations in your life,
you won't look back and reflect 

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to realise how you've got to 
where you are today. 

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So being born with a heating 
impairment, but I've, I see more

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positives than the negatives in 
that become a joiner in 

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construction for a long time 
after school. 

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So in school I was right into 
sports and all sorts of 

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different hobbies and whatnot. 
But after leaving there, went to

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construction. 
From there I jumped into 

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property and then property I 
think it was, yeah, it was 2018.

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I went down to an event and at 
that event is where I see my 

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first motivational speaker. 
So he said, trying to cut a bit 

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of the the back story out in 
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But from. 
I've always been a high 

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enthusiastic person, love life, 
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Jump forward to 2028. 
Seen this guy on stage and I 

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thought what he's doing it. 
It resonated with me so much and

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I thought I, I, I'm connecting 
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believe that I've got such good 
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But why is it that so many 
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of energy or motivation? 
So again, reflect them back 

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digging into the insurance and 
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I thought, well, what is it 
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other people that haven't got 
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So that's where I basically 
started this journey in terms of

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self improvement that I just, I 
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was. 
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As I've said, I've went to 
school, had my challenges, left 

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school, I was in construction, 
construction property. 

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I mean, there was always that 
element of growth. 

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I believe I've always looked for
growth in my life in terms of 

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sports. 
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quite a high level, managed to 
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years. 
So that again, it was always a 

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way of trying to look for 
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But this is my newest challenge 
now in terms of, as I've said 

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earlier, there's people out 
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have that drive and that get go 
for life. 

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I want to go out there and sort 
of tap into these people and try

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and help bring them up to a 
level that's achievable for them

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to go out and what I would 
consider them to live their best

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version of their life, their 
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their best life. 
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at, without getting into too 
much of the integrity for right 

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now. 
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So what was it the I mean, who 
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Is there anyone that I would 
know? 

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This I don't, I mean it, it was 
a property event. 

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It was all about the property, 
but it was nice that they got 

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somebody in to talk about the 
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So as you know that in life 
mindset is a big thing. 

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Again, unless you're self aware 
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know, it's in property, it's 
quite a big jump to go from 

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nothing to maybe 12310 houses. 
So they brought that element 

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into just trying to help people 
adjust to go from A to B really.

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So it wasn't like a big speaker 
or anything. 

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And again, somebody asked to do 
the day as to you know what, 

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what exactly resonated with you?
And I was like, I actually can't

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remember much of the talk. 
I think it was just like I was, 

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I was feeling it more than 
heeding it. 

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And that's when I just thought 
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though that was cool and it's 
something that I wanted to do. 

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So is that like you'd never seen
any sort of motivational 

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speakers before and that was 
kind of like your first person 

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into the industry? 
Yeah, bizarrely, I mean, how old

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was I then? 
I think I was just 31 at the 

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time. 
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back in like you say, American 
football being like, obviously 

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the motivational speech in, in, 
in this space, sorry, in the 

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locker room, everybody's getting
fired up for the game, beast 

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modes coming out and all these 
sort of carry on, but never in 

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the sense of a motivational 
speech, you know? 

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Do you think a lot of the 
carryover well or a lot of your 

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interest maybe stemmed from the 
carryover in American football, 

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where I feel like Americans are 
quite like that. 

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Not in a in a bad way, it's like
a really good way. 

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But they are like, they love 
like the team tools. 

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They love like, shouting, get 
energised, being big like 

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characters. 
Do you think you'd already like 

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thought about? 
Because I'm guessing you were 

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you playing American football 
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Oh yeah, like you say, I started
playing American football when I

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was 16. 
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So that probably carried over 
into you obviously being in that

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like environment and then seeing
that you probably just like 

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match the two together. 
Yeah, but I mean, again, because

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it's funny that I know when I 
don't like a bit of a public 

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speaking in school. 
It was a shambles, you know, it 

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was an absolute shit showing 
sense of product there. 

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I was so nervous. 
I didn't want to put myself out 

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there. 
I didn't really know what to 

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talk about. 
But again, when I think back the

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the topic that we were talking 
about and discussing on stage, 

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it had absolutely nothing that 
resonated with me or inspired me

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in any way, shape or form. 
So what I've come to realise now

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that many public speakers, 
they're just good at what they 

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do because they enjoy talking 
what they're talking about and 

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they can resonate with it there.
It inspires them and you know, 

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they've got value to offer to 
their audience. 

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Whereas if you don't have that, 
then your, your energy is going 

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to be flat, you are going to be 
mistakes. 

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You're not going to be want to, 
you're not going to want to be 

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like on stage. 
So but so back then, I'm not 

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going to say it was. 
But as you said, it could right 

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Well be that, you know, the 
natural progression through 

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American football, that the 
energy was there. 

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And people do say that I'm a bit
Americanised because I'm quite 

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loud and in your face. 
But you know, that's part of the

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parcel. 
I am deaf, you know, don't 

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forget that aspect. 
But I take that as a compliment.

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I do so do. 
You think you kind of fell into 

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the role of such of motivational
speaker is inherently loud, but 

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you think like you've just 
naturally been loud because it's

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like to do with the the hearing 
impairment. 

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So it kind of, I don't know, I 
could be going in a completely 

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wrong direction here, but maybe 
you speak louder because of 

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that. 
No, this dishes. 

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I mean, I like, I like talking 
about this to a point that for 

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me, confidence growing up that I
always see that having the 

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hearing issues when I was 
younger, that if I never voiced 

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up and asked people to speak 
louder, then I would be excluded

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from a lot of the conversations.
Because again, just being a bit 

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of a bugger that I did have 
heeding AIDS, but once I got to 

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secondary school I was too cool 
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Aids. 
They went out the window and it 

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was just like, but although I 
thought I was, you know, in with

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the gang, I couldn't hear Jack 
shit. 

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So I was constantly just asking 
people to repeat themselves time

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and time again. 
And, you know, it got on a lot 

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of people's nerves. 
But I kept, I kept persisting 

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because I was like, I want to 
know what's being said. 

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I don't want to be out of the 
loop as such. 

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So it gave me that confidence 
that I kept getting knocked 

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back. 
So the resilience to just try 

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again, try again. 
So I'll look at it from both 

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angles. 
But at the same time, yeah, I 

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was like, right, if you want me 
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conversation, then unfortunately
usually going to have to speak 

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louder than me. 
So again, I would sort of like 

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just raise the level of volume 
with the people around me. 

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But I do, I feel as though 
looking back, I've picked up so 

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many sort of traits from having 
a heating impairment that I can 

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really use to press forward in 
my life and, and help other 

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people sort of bring up there's 
like confidence for, for me, it 

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is, it's literally sort of going
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And I mean, when I listen, 
there's loads of different ways 

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that people can apply 
confidence. 

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But for me it's a case of like 
you've, you've got to go out 

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there and start trying just one 
step at a time, take a knockback

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another step at a time. 
And eventually you will get 

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confident in your field of 
whatever it is you're trying to 

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get confident at. 
You mentioned that some people 

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obviously found it annoying that
you'd have to then repeat 

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themselves at a louder stage, 
but do you? 

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Did you find that when people 
projected their voice and they 

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were forced to kind of be this 
high energy, they shifted the 

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way that they kind of portrayed 
themselves? 

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And I, I'm just thinking of a 
case of like, did seeing that 

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maybe spark another thing of 
getting into motivational 

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speaking? 
Because you could see when 

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someone like actually puts their
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into their tonality, into their 
voice, you can visually see a 

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difference in how they hold 
them, hold themselves. 

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Well, I didn't, yes, because I 
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being in the coaching space and,
and trying to help people 

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improve their energy, a lot of 
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they're in. 
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that you don't really want to 
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there, But if I'm putting it on 
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to have this conversation, 
you're going to have to change 

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your state. 
Are you going to have to speak 

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louder and everything? 
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that was ever the aim and I've 
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the dots together as I'm moving 
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feel as though everybody stayed 
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You can't improve your life 
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you're currently in. 
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unfortunately you're not going 
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aware and you can start working 
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Yeah, definitely. 
How did you what was the 

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transition of deciding OK, 
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you was in? 
Property development, yeah. 

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motivational speaking the the 
lifestyle brand that you're 

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doing now? 
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took great pride in knowing that
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literally the bones of the 
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something, you know, really 
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somebody to live in. 
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from here to here, it, it really
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though I could add a lot of 
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fulfilment from it. 
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process again, now that I'm 
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somebody go from, you know, flat
and fatigue to focused and fired

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up, then it's the same sort of 
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working with different tools and
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So I do again, try to think back
as to what it is that gets me to

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where I am and, and to do what I
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And there is little, but this is
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about self improvement now in, 
in terms of there's, there's 

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loads of different approaches 
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Hence why what I want to try and
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rebrand self improvement is just
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So you are at A and you're 
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Then for example, you know, 
going into a room and having 

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group discussions, you know, 
that's one way of people getting

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from where they are to where 
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Retreats, sort of spiritual 
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Church is another way. 
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do now, I want to try and help 
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they are to where they want to 
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style to it. 
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loud put out their energy. 
So and I get it. 

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Obviously some people are look 
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But I understand I can't help 

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everybody, you know. 
So but if if people do take to 

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it and I can help you make that 
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What do you think is wrong with 
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space? 
What do I think's wrong? 

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What's wrong with it? 
What? 

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What don't you like about the 
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Well, that again, that's, I 
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of concept that I've brought in 
here, which is obviously my 

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canned spring water actually 
need a drink. 

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I just don't feel as though 
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They don't consider their self 
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Where that's probably the 
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especially now with the way the 
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You know, there's there's so 
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stimulated. 
I mean, myself included. 

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It's so easy to get sucked into 
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Social media can just get your 
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You know, you, you could before 
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maybe feeling pretty good and 
then, you know, within 1520 

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minutes you're just strolling 
your state's gone further and 

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further down to a point that you
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anything. 
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it's getting people and and 
having them become aware of what

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overstimulation is doing. 
Because again, for me, if 

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you're, if you're 
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state's changing. 
But if it, if it goes on for 

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long enough, you find that you 
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that you're actually aiming for.
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biggest driver for me around 
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So if you've got good energy 
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what it is that you want out of 
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there's a pretty good chance you
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you're going in. 
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and I'm getting the bad vibes 
off you, then I more than likely

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think that you're just sort of 
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You don't know what it is that 
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you know, it's quite 
overwhelming. 

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But that is, for me, it's having
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their situations. 
And as I've said, I've become 

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aware what do I need to do or 
who do I need to speak to? 

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So there's totally, there's 
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Just go and find out which one 
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fantastic. 
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underestimate the implications 
that social media has in terms 

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of the scroll. 
Like you said there, it's like, 

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oh, it's 1520 minutes. 
Like what is 1520 minutes? 

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But I don't think if you I don't
think enough people delve deeper

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into that of the sense of your 
kind of just training your brain

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to be relying on achieving goals
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So like the next video is a mini
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minutes and learning all these 
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And and oh, do you know what? 
I'm going to save that post. 

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Oh, what? 
Yeah. 

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Do you know that that little hat
that he said that's pretty good.

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I'll save that. 
I'll save that to my watch later

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on YouTube, whatever it is. 
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like a goal setting, like, like,
like you've achieved something. 

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And I think that's where it's 
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when a real goal comes around, 
when you actually need to do 

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something that you can't solve 
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There's not going to be a scroll
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situations and circumstances 
where you have to endure or 

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sorry, eat shit for months and 
not get any results. 

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People don't want to do it. 
And this is I think is where 

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people, it's like we just 
trained ourselves to not want to

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go through tough times in a way.
No, I, I totally, I mean, we're 

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just getting so many of our 
needs met by the simple scroll 

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of a thumb. 
As you said, it just like hit 

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little targets. 
But then after the end of 20-30 

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minutes, you think, right, well,
I've hit all these targets, but 

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what have they actually, you 
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what it was that no, the answer 
is more than likely no as so 

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it's just, it is. 
I don't like to bash social 

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media because I think it's 
absolutely fantastic. 

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It's great, but only if it's 
used in the right way. 

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Yeah, because I mean, we have to
use it. 

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It's a catch to me too, because 
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But I also know that to do what 
I'm doing, to do this, to sit 

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and have conversations with 
people like you, it's I have to 

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do it like it's it's never going
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worse. 
But I think the really important

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what you said there about having
the awareness of like sitting 

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there for 1020 minutes because 
I'm I'm sure me and you still. 

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We'll both do that. 
I, I will happily admit that I 

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do like a 30 minute doom scroll 
and then I get to the end of it.

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I'm like, fuck, what have I done
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Like that is not, I've not got 
anywhere. 

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And I think it's good in this 
kind of space to get people to 

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start having that awareness of 
just like, OK, you've been 

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scrolling for 15 like 15 to 30 
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How do you feel? 
How has that, like, changed your

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life? 
Have you moved closer to 

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anywhere? 
Have you actually achieved 

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anything? 
And constantly reinforcing that 

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almost negative feeling of like,
I'm doing this action and I'm 

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getting nothing out of it. 
And if anything, I'm probably 

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feeling worse because then you 
get to the end of the scroll and

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you kind of, it's almost like 
that like post, not clarity. 

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You're like, oh, God, what have 
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For lack of a better word or 
term. 

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Sorry. 
Yeah, it's a. 

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It's a confusing space. 
Yeah, I mean I've got two young 

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kids of my own and for me it's 
me and my wife are trying to put

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procedures in place now how to 
navigate. 

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I mean Eva's 7, Evans 2. 
So Evans still a fair bit off 

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yet. 
But Eva, we don't give her any 

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form of social media, but even 
just like devices and you know 

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how we sort of navigate that and
for example, just the the TV in 

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general, there's no telly in our
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Wednesday, no telly on Thursday.
It's just if she wants to watch 

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anything, it's only Disney only.
And the reason for that it's I 

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feel like I can monitor it a lot
easier. 

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So we know that it's because 
I've seen it. 

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We let her go on a bit of 
YouTube now and again, but from 

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she's like, Daddy, I'm just 
putting such and such on. 

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That's fine. 
And within 25 minutes I'll go 

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and I'm like, what are you 
watching? 

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Like, how do we get to this? 
You know, because it just jumps 

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from one to the next to the 
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But I mean, I, I read an 
interesting study to say that 

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obviously a lot of kids are 
getting diagnosed with the likes

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of ADHD and everything. 
And I mean, I don't want to fall

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down that rabbit hole right now 
because I've got my own sort of 

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views and takes that might be 
quite controversial. 

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But this, this study for me was 
brilliant in the sense that no 

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wonder so many kids are being 
diagnosed with things like this 

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if they're just constantly being
exposed to these devices, then. 

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But YouTube, I mean, when we 
watch Amazon stuff on Amazon 

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Prime, because we're that type, 
we don't pray for the, you've 

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got to watch the adverts, my 
little girl, be like adverts, 

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What's this? 
And I'm like, well, look at it 

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this way. 
It gives you time to just reset,

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go to the toilet, do, do bits 
and pieces come back. 

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It's not like what she's 
expecting. 

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I just want to jump to the next 
one, to the next one, to the 

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next one. 
It's like, so I mean, but this 

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is happening to everybody. 
This like say this is over 

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stimulation at its best. 
So it's, it's, it is a challenge

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to be tackled for sure. 
Yeah, I don't think there's 

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going to be much of an answer to
it because it's such a big 

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force. 
But I was speaking to someone 

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last week who will be on the 
show in a few weeks to come or 

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by this time, by the time this 
one's coming, it would have been

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out already. 
And we were talking about how 

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like things like, like anxiety 
or ADHD or even things such as 

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like autism that people like, 
it's the tendencies of that 

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trait. 
So like, oh, it's like now a 

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badge of honours would be like, 
well, I've got, I've got, I've 

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got a DHDI can't concentrate for
more than 10 minutes. 

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I was like, have you got ADHD or
can you not just concentrate for

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10 minutes? 
Like there is a difference 

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there. 
One, they're, they're not like, 

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I think the word's mutually 
exclusive. 

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Like, but then people, I was 
talking to them about the frame 

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in which people put themselves 
in. 

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So like if you frame yourself to
have ADHD, it's almost like you 

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identify with that word and then
you go out there and act in the 

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way of what an AHD person was 
when actually you just couldn't 

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concentrate for 10 minutes, 
which is completely natural. 

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Or like anxiety, it's like as 
someone that struggled with it 

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for many years, I now question 
whether did I have anxiety or 

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did I just make it worse by 
thinking and telling myself that

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I did and identifying with the 
word and that like going into a 

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an unknown environment that I'd 
never been in before. 

446
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,360
Everyone has a has weird 
butterfly fees in the stomach. 

447
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,040
Does not mean you have anxiety. 
It just means you're human. 

448
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,320
You're just like a normal 
person. 

449
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,080
It is at the end of the day, 
it's just the story that we tell

450
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,880
ourselves over and over again. 
Because to me, like I do, and 

451
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,720
I'm not trying to say that 
there's people out there because

452
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,040
again, going back to what I do 
and don't like about the self 

453
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,440
improvement space and and things
I want to change is for example,

454
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,040
for me, the word mental health. 
You know, I've kind of, I think 

455
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,160
it's, it's just a shame that 
I've come to a point that I, if 

456
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,040
somebody mentioned their mental 
health, I kind of feel like 

457
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,920
right, you know, I've got to ask
the question, do you really have

458
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,040
mental health issues? 
And there's a couple of 

459
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,280
different reasons I want to go 
down there is there's some 

460
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,160
people that genuinely do have 
mental health issues and may 

461
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,400
need their help. 
That's brilliant. 

462
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,720
There's other people that I feel
as though they're just 

463
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,120
exploiting the system that, you 
know, there's too many companies

464
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:25,680
out there there now that they've
got to put all these policies in

465
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000
place as soon as somebody 
mentions that word mental 

466
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,400
health. 
And you know, they've got to 

467
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,800
sort of take that to a different
level. 

468
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,840
And then there's other people 
that, as I'm saying there, 

469
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,240
they've just told themselves a 
story for long enough that they 

470
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,480
believe that there's some sort 
of condition. 

471
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,600
I mean, because using my own 
examples, being born with the 

472
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:51,920
hidden impairment that if I'd of
took the sort of pity party 

473
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,280
approach, you know, the, the 
negativity side of it and just 

474
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,880
sort of played on that. 
Well, there's only one I can 

475
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,400
ever wear my heating aids, but 
I'm not cool if I don't wear 

476
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,880
them. 
I don't stand out and just sort 

477
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,880
of repeated these shitty stories
to myself time and time again. 

478
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,080
I, I think I would be so 
insecure, I probably wouldn't 

479
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,440
leave the house. 
So it's up to me to say, right? 

480
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,320
Well, no, this isn't true. 
I know I'm capable of doing XYZ 

481
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,280
and he's the proof to back it 
up. 

482
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,040
But if there is no proof, then 
it's up to me to go out and get 

483
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,000
that proof. 
Go out and do the things I need 

484
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,960
to do in order to change the 
narrative and change my story on

485
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,200
what I'm telling myself time and
time again. 

486
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,640
So and, and I get it because 
again, until you become self 

487
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,400
aware, you don't know how long 
you've been telling yourself 

488
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760
these stories. 
So you might have to track back 

489
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,240
as far as it goes. 
I mean, for me personally, 

490
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,400
again, I don't like to go too 
far into because obviously I'm 

491
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,600
not a therapist. 
I'm, I'm never going to claim to

492
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,960
be 1. 
So if people are suffering real 

493
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,160
trauma, then by all means, you 
know, go and speak to a 

494
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,920
therapist. 
But for me, it's like, if you 

495
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,600
get to a point where you just 
feel a bit misguided, then you 

496
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,440
know, that's where I feel as 
though I can help you project to

497
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,080
to where you need to be. 
But if it is the story that 

498
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,960
you're telling yourself, then 
that's maybe the first thing 

499
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,320
that you need to look at. 
Some people may not may not like

500
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,880
to hear this, but I'm going to 
just say it in in my own 

501
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,760
personal experience of things, 
the labels that we give 

502
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,680
ourselves kind of act as like a 
comfort blanket and a way of us 

503
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,960
to deflect responsibility to 
actually go and change 

504
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,200
something. 
So when I had anxiety, I told 

505
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,120
myself that for so long, I mean,
let me caveat this whole story 

506
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,720
by saying I used to smoke weed 
every single day. 

507
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,320
So was I was I anxious or was I 
just paranoid? 

508
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,840
That's that's the question that 
I probably won't have the answer

509
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,040
to. 
However, by telling myself I had

510
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,280
this thing, this condition, 
let's just say I then gave 

511
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,280
myself a reason to not going to 
have to do the things that 

512
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,600
scared me. 
So going into public places, I 

513
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,640
couldn't even phone like 
takeaways or doctors or speak to

514
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,040
like strangers on the phone 
without like sweating and and 

515
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,360
just having this sense of 
anxiety. 

516
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:05,920
But by identifying and attaching
myself to that word so tightly, 

517
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,880
it kind of defected any sort of 
responsibility for me to go do 

518
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,720
something about it. 
Because if I didn't do it, I 

519
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,800
could just be like, well, it's 
my anxiety. 

520
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,040
Like I'm, I'm kind of fine. 
I can just sit behind that 

521
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,040
comfort blanket. 
And then it didn't mean it meant

522
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,480
that I didn't have to go and do 
the work. 

523
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,520
And I think sometimes it's, 
it's, it's a hard one to admit 

524
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,080
to yourself, but some people 
find themselves in that position

525
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,960
quite a lot where we hide behind
a term or, or anything to kind 

526
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,480
of deflect responsibility to, to
have to change. 

527
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Yeah, no, absolutely, 
definitely. 

528
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,680
I think the self improvement 
space there, what you said about

529
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,720
I saw, I saw something the other
day that was quite interesting 

530
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,880
of like how do you kind of 
decide whether something is 

531
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,000
really bad mental health or, or 
the situation you're in? 

532
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,280
And the guy was talking about 
like a scale. 

533
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,800
So it's from -10 to plus 10 and 
that's your state, that's the 

534
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:04,000
energy that you're in. 
And the the -10 to 0 is where a 

535
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320
therapist would live. 
Like these people are just 

536
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,760
trying to get people out of like
their anxiety out of their like 

537
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,600
deep root issues. 
A counsellor is kind of the same

538
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,280
thing, like you're in that 
negative state and you're trying

539
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,880
to get yourself back into the 
positive state. 

540
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,800
But any sort of like self 
improvement, and I think this is

541
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,480
where people go wrong. 
Any form of self improvement is 

542
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,040
literally getting you from A0 to
A10 or it could get you from A3 

543
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,320
to A7. 
It is just a case of right, you 

544
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200
are at a certain stage that you 
may be not so happy with. 

545
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Maybe there are small things 
that are happening that are 

546
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,040
obviously weighing you down. 
But it's not in the realms of 

547
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,720
mental health. 
It's not in the realms of like 

548
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,400
depression, like real deep 
rooted depression, but you just 

549
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,840
want to improve. 
And I think that is one of the 

550
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,040
problems with self improvement 
is the fact that people feel 

551
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,360
that they only need it when 
they're broken, rather than like

552
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,320
you could be improved all the 
time. 

553
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,760
Like there is always somewhere, 
there are always levels in which

554
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,360
you can reach. 
Yeah, yeah. 

555
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,160
No, I'm, I'm, I'm smiling there.
You've just hit the nail on the 

556
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:08,040
head for me as to what I find a 
lot of things with people that I

557
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,440
went to an event last year, I 
had a stand in an event 

558
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,200
obviously advertising my 
services and everything and it 

559
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,080
was, it was a Wellness event. 
So, but a lot of people that 

560
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,160
will come in to speak to me, 
they, they would, you know, just

561
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,160
get chatting for a few minutes 
or so. 

562
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,120
And then the first thing that 
they would say was like, all 

563
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,640
right, so you help people with 
depression. 

564
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,440
And I was like, well, look, if 
somebody comes to me with 

565
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,440
depression, I'm more than happy 
to try and help them. 

566
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,120
If I can't, then you know, I'll,
I'll offer them some guidance 

567
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,120
and where best to can go and get
that, that extra help. 

568
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,720
But what I found, and that's 
hence why I wanted to sort of 

569
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:56,840
bring this out, is a lot of 
people were just, as I framed 

570
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,080
earlier and you just hit there 
that they feel as though you've 

571
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,360
got to come down to a certain 
level in order to need it to get

572
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280
back up. 
Whereas I'm like, well, no, 

573
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,640
that's because I, I've never, 
I've never felt that I've ever 

574
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,160
scooped that law in my life 
personally. 

575
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,320
Again, I've had a, a brilliant 
upbringing. 

576
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,360
My family has been absolutely 
solely grown up. 

577
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,520
You know, I've had a, a good 
childhood and right through my 

578
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,240
teens, a good social life. 
I do think the structure of 

579
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,200
American football played a big 
part in, in helping me sort of 

580
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,480
stick to the good things in life
as such. 

581
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,320
But so I've never been 
depressed, I've never got there.

582
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960
And again, I'm not trying to pin
anything on anybody, you know, 

583
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:48,920
but I'm like, but I want to keep
that curve going up in terms of 

584
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,240
just trying to improve myself. 
So what's to me? 

585
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,680
What what's not to like there? 
What I am sure that if you 

586
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,080
speaking to anybody there, if 
they went on an event, whether 

587
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,880
it be Tony Robbins or Chris 
Williamson podcasts or to a Ted 

588
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,800
X, you will find little sort of 
golden Nuggets in there or 

589
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,400
within these talks that you 
could implement into your own 

590
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:23,440
life and come out better for it.
So I just I, that's why I wanted

591
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360
to further cans, obviously, just
to give you a bit of an insight.

592
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,320
There is when I found I was 
wanting to do because it was 

593
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,880
pretty much in that moment at 
this event that I was doing. 

594
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,640
Then I thought like something 
I've, I've got to try and change

595
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,280
this narrative like because I 
don't want to be labelled that 

596
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,800
the people are only going to 
come to me if they hit rock 

597
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,560
bottom, like that isn't the 
case. 

598
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,000
So I thought like what, what, 
what in these approaches? 

599
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,000
What do I consider what, what, 
what would attract me to want to

600
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,480
go and associate with something?
And in the end it was energy 

601
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,640
drinks for me, the likes of Red 
Bull, Monster, Luka's head, you 

602
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040
know, they're, they're always 
out there and it's, it's the 

603
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,440
cooler, the sexier shit and the 
more exciting stuff, to be 

604
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,160
honest. 
And I thought, well, they're 

605
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,240
putting it out that if you want 
to live life with good energy, 

606
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,960
you know, go and buy their 
drink, consume it and the way 

607
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,240
you go. 
I mean, again, without touching 

608
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,480
base on what energy drinks 
actually do to you, but for me 

609
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,920
it's like, well, why can't 
somebody entertained that space?

610
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,560
But using self improvement, like
the techniques that, you know, 

611
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,640
we teach and the tools that we 
use. 

612
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,960
So it's the same sort of, but 
that's where, so this here, 

613
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,720
although it looks very much like
an energy drink, it's just 

614
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,000
natural spring water. 
Because for me, I thought I'd, I

615
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,240
can't be a hypocrite and go and 
put an energy drink in it. 

616
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080
And you're saying that. 
Oh well, right. 

617
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,800
I'll give you this to start off,
but there's this in the 

618
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,480
background as well. 
So but I mean, I've always been 

619
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,880
a big lover of water anyways, so
I I really do enjoy drinking 

620
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,520
water. 
But that is my hope moving 

621
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,080
forward with in a hype as a 
brand is to try and get more 

622
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,560
people to associate with it, but
just for the reasons of wanting 

623
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,040
to improve rather than, you 
know, I need to get myself out 

624
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,679
of the hole again. 
If you're in the hole and you 

625
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,239
want out, brilliant, But if you 
don't, then just come on board 

626
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,000
and let's see if we can all grow
together in a healthy way. 

627
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,239
That going to get us from A to B
to B to C to C to D and and 

628
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,679
onwards really. 
Yeah, I feel like people have 

629
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,639
misconceptions as well that they
can only grow in like 1 domain, 

630
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,360
like they can only get in shape,
they can only like make more 

631
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,639
money. 
But I feel like there are so 

632
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,000
many things you can work on 
simultaneously to try and 

633
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,840
improve yourself. 
And I just feel like if you 

634
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,880
don't have anything, you'd just 
be bored. 

635
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,480
Like I've, I would just be bored
if it didn't have like little 

636
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,320
side quests or little side 
hustles or projects that I was 

637
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,520
working on. 
And again, this is not in the 

638
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,240
realms of like money or, or 
business or whatever. 

639
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:00,720
But like you can improve your 
speaking. 

640
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,600
And if you're not like a 
motivational speaker, but like 

641
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,240
you're speaking just the normal 
people, the amount of umms and 

642
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,960
Rs and, and how, how nervous you
feel like that's a project you 

643
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:13,120
can work on or the depth of your
relationships or the amount of 

644
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,280
times that you're like 
practising gratitude or doing 

645
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,520
things or having experiences 
that you really want to have. 

646
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,000
And I think when you can see it 
as that in terms of improvement,

647
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,040
you just open up it. 
It makes this game of life 

648
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,760
without having to sound like an 
absolute knob so much more 

649
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,240
interesting because it's like, 
OK, what can I go and improve 

650
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:32,400
on? 
Like what can I go and make 

651
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,640
better? 
I did a post yesterday talking 

652
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,520
about how do you measure self 
improvement? 

653
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Like how do you understand? 
Like, because there is no like 

654
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,640
tangible metric in a way, 
there's no like, oh, I've made 

655
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,440
more money this year. 
I feel like I've hit quota or my

656
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,480
business has made more money or 
I've lost weight. 

657
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:50,360
But one of the things that I use
for my own self improvement and 

658
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,280
it arrived from, I don't know 
who who said it about content. 

659
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,760
Like looking back at your old 
content and cringing a little 

660
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,120
bit like, oh God, that I read 
like, I hate the way I speak 

661
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,680
there, my tonality or the, the 
videos that I was putting out. 

662
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,080
And then that's a sign to me 
that I've grown from that 

663
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,240
person. 
And it's, I use the kind of same

664
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,240
thing in self improvement. 
If I can look at myself and two 

665
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,360
years ago and think, well, OK, 
maybe you was a little bit like 

666
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,880
you was wrong about a situation 
or like you handled that a bit, 

667
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,160
not in a good way, then that's a
sign for me that I'm not OK. 

668
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,200
I'm getting better. 
Yeah, no, I I totally agree that

669
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,240
obviously my first post I put 
out was a couple of years ago on

670
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,600
social media and straight away 
just talking at the camera and 

671
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,280
nobody else. 
As I've said, I'm I'm very 

672
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,600
sociable person. 
I like that that people sort of 

673
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,080
element. 
And when it was just me and the 

674
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,400
camera, I thought like this is 
this is awkward as hell. 

675
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,440
But the response was absolutely 
brilliant when I put it out 

676
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,240
there, although it wasn't, you 
know, pitch perfect by far away 

677
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,760
from there. 
But people, they, they 

678
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,320
understood and they got the 
message. 

679
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,840
But it's also as you, it's I've 
never really looked at it that 

680
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000
way. 
But obviously if I go back and 

681
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,720
look at them posts now, then I'm
thinking right. 

682
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:00,720
Well, there's different Ways and
Means that like as I've said 

683
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,400
that for me, I can spill on a 
bit. 

684
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,560
Some people enjoy it, but some 
people don't. 

685
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,960
So I need to try and like, you 
know, punch the right message 

686
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,880
across at the right times and 
you sort of try and drive more 

687
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,600
value rather than just talking 
for talking sake. 

688
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,280
Yeah, definitely. 
What are some of the, so you 

689
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,600
mentioned that you're trying to 
rebrand self improvement. 

690
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,840
So if someone works with you or 
if they come to one of your 

691
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,080
talks, what are some less like 
unconventional routes that you 

692
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
use to change someone's energy 
like you've mentioned or to get 

693
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,000
them to start thinking in a 
different way? 

694
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,560
What sort of things do you tell 
them? 

695
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,160
For me, again, it's just like 
it's starting off where you 

696
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,320
currently are. 
And pretty much what you're 

697
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,880
consuming for me would be, let's
start there. 

698
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,400
What what are you bringing into 
your life that isn't relevant, 

699
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,400
that isn't serving you? 
And nine times out of 10, 

700
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,560
that'll probably be the content 
that you're consuming, you know,

701
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,840
but then you've got the people, 
the environments. 

702
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,360
So where are you hanging around?
Who the people that you're with?

703
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,600
So taking in that into 
consideration and asking the 

704
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,800
question that is that really 
serving you to a purpose that if

705
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,440
it's not, then obviously we need
to start trimming that out, you 

706
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,760
know, get rid of the dead weed 
and, and start zoning in and 

707
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,400
focus on what it is that you 
want to move towards. 

708
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,440
And for me, a big thing is I, I 
always use the word inspiration 

709
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,320
because I think it's brilliant 
in the sense that there's so 

710
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,480
much of it out there, even 
though the world can sort of the

711
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,960
needle can press over to the 
negative side of what's 

712
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,960
happening out in the world. 
But if you sort of strip the 

713
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,840
clouds back, the sunshine's 
always there. 

714
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,160
Again, how cheesy as that 
sounds, But it is if if you're 

715
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,880
if you start looking in the 
right areas for what it is that 

716
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,400
you want to look for, it will be
there. 

717
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:54,200
And then it's up to you whether 
you sort of start pursuing that.

718
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,600
But a lot of people, they're 
just, they're clouded by what's 

719
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,400
in front of them and they can't 
strip you back. 

720
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,840
So for me, the very first thing 
would be let's focus on what it 

721
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,360
is that you don't want in your 
life. 

722
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,160
Again, if you would ask somebody
and say, right, start an 

723
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,640
elimination process of what it 
is in five years time, what do 

724
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,840
you not want of like your life 
to look like, like, I don't, I 

725
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,400
don't want this, I don't want 
that. 

726
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,160
And I, I, I don't want to be 
where I'm at now in terms of 

727
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,920
where I live. 
I would like to move house like,

728
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,560
well, starting, believe it or 
not, these are goals or 

729
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,240
directions that you're putting 
together without even realising.

730
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,840
So let's work on that. 
But again, it's, it's the 

731
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,280
inspiration is to I, I feel 
there's always like I've, I've 

732
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,280
always found ways to inspire 
myself again through just 

733
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,800
socially when I was younger, the
excitement of meeting up with 

734
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,200
the lads and, and going out and 
just having fun basically. 

735
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,440
And in American football, it was
just like the, I used to have to

736
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,240
travel about two and a bit hours
just to get to training. 

737
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,120
And it was maybe sometimes 3 
hours training bite to eat 

738
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,080
another two hours. 
It would, it would take my whole

739
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,520
day. 
So like my physical energy was a

740
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,080
bit drained, but my mental 
energy was, was through the roof

741
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,920
in the sense that it was like I 
enjoyed the whole process of it.

742
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,200
You know, I felt inspired to do 
so. 

743
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,760
So to me, if you can't, if you 
aren't looking at things that 

744
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,000
lift your energy up, then you 
will stay in the current state 

745
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,680
that you're in. 
So it's it's kind of like a. 

746
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:27,240
I call it like an energy loop 
that we can follow around, but 

747
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,520
the first thing would be the 
first step would definitely be 

748
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,240
what is within your space that 
needs stripped back and let's 

749
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,560
start looking at the right way 
do. 

750
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,560
You think in your experience, 
negative motivation has a bigger

751
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,680
effect than positive motivation.
So do you think people are more 

752
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,520
motivated to move away from 
something than to move towards 

753
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:56,280
the thing that they want? 
I mean, again, obviously the 

754
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,880
motivation in terms of you've 
got like intrinsic and extrinsic

755
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,520
that I feel as though I've 
always had a lot of internal 

756
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,280
drive. 
I really do. 

757
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Because I mean, that's what 
obviously the, the can literally

758
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,040
says like inner hype, life's 
best energy, your energy within.

759
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,240
So inner hype as well. 
Inner hype. 

760
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:23,680
I mean, how I come about that a 
few years ago was the word hype 

761
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,520
inner. 
So it's self-explanatory in that

762
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,960
way. 
But the hype for me hype it, It 

763
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,160
can come, but it can disappear 
as fast as it was there. 

764
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,600
So it's my job to keep my own 
hype alive every day because no 

765
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,400
fucking else is going to do it. 
You know what I mean? 

766
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,560
It's up to me. 
So when I get out of that bed, 

767
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,200
it's up to me to look for the 
signs to write. 

768
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,280
How am I going to hype my own 
sheet up today? 

769
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,120
What am I going to do? 
So if it is in terms of the 

770
00:41:54,120 --> 00:42:00,080
motivation, if you are looking 
for things and just if you for 

771
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,920
example work, although we are 
motivated to go to work to get a

772
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,200
payer, then if you think then 
what's what's holding you 

773
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,720
accountable to go to work. 
The chances are a lot of people 

774
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,320
have got a mortgage on their 
property. 

775
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,160
So therefore to me, the biggest 
accountability holder there is 

776
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,360
the mortgage company, because if
you don't pay your mortgage, 

777
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,400
they'll take your house off you.
So therefore you are motivated, 

778
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,040
you are driven to go to work, 
although you probably hate the 

779
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,960
place just to pay the bills to 
keep them from repossessing your

780
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,240
house. 
So it's obviously that's you 

781
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:42,600
being pushed rather than pulled.
But for me, and there's nothing 

782
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,840
wrong with that in the sense 
that obviously everybody needs 

783
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,680
to pay the mortgage. 
I mean, I do it myself. 

784
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:54,600
But in terms of how I want to 
move forward, I want to look for

785
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,000
things that pull me rather than 
push me. 

786
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,920
And again, motivational 
speaking, helping people, this 

787
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,920
is actually pulling my energy 
rather than me having to get up 

788
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,200
and try and push it. 
Yeah, that's good. 

789
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,960
What are the, what are the goals
for in a hype? 

790
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,080
What are you looking to? 
What's the future look like, 

791
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,840
basically? 
The goals, well, like you say, 

792
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,840
that's just, I mean, I could 
grow all big and grand, but just

793
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,400
one step at a time. 
Really. 

794
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,000
It was only just before 
Christmas that I actually got 

795
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,520
the can out into, you know, the,
the sort of public eye. 

796
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,080
I've been working on it for 
about 6-7 months prior to that, 

797
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,800
which again, when I speak to 
people in that space, they said 

798
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,080
it was, you know, that that's a 
really short time frame to go 

799
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,200
from having the concept. 
Like when it just hit us, I 

800
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,240
thought, right, this is what I 
want to do to actually find in 

801
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,960
everything. 
But I slowly I want to sort of 

802
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,920
build up a subscription based 
model. 

803
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,200
So that's where I'm going to aim
is that if people join onto the 

804
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,880
programme, then we can use the 
cans as a bit of a, it becomes 

805
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,360
the can itself rather than just 
being like a marketing angle, 

806
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,200
which it kind of is. 
But I see it as a, it's another 

807
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,680
ritual that people can use in 
their life. 

808
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,560
So it's a psychological trigger 
as a bit of a reset. 

809
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,120
So for me, again, going back to 
your environment, what works and

810
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,480
what doesn't is what, what's 
serving you within your 

811
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,960
environment. 
I would like to think that if 

812
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,440
somebody woke up the next 
morning and they opened the 

813
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,680
fridge and they were feeling a 
bit grotty, the state was out of

814
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,480
shape. 
But then you see the kind of, 

815
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,040
you know, hype and think, right,
you know, I'm going to, I'm 

816
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,600
going to track that and I'm 
going to reframe my energy 

817
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,000
today. 
So that's like it's, it's I want

818
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,280
to put it out there and I want 
people to come on board that 

819
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,400
actually genuinely just want to 
improve people that want to sort

820
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,120
of find that next best version 
of themselves in their life. 

821
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,120
So it it is going to be hard for
us because I am not really 

822
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,720
social media savvy myself. 
So this whole branding and 

823
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,440
marketing is going to be a bit 
of a whirlwind for us. 

824
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,520
But this next year, well this 
year coming up, I just want to 

825
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,880
start putting myself out more in
terms of going to different 

826
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,840
events, whether it be well-being
exhibitions or sporting events 

827
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:12,120
and, and start advertising to 
the level that I believe that I 

828
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,600
am worthy and inner hype is 
worthy of sitting at just just 

829
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,360
to help people so slowly but 
surely. 

830
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,600
Yeah, like it what you mentioned
there. 

831
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,400
What are some of the rituals 
that you have that help you 

832
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,040
build inner hype or help you 
show up as the best version of 

833
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,960
you each day? 
Rituals for me again, well, I 

834
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,360
mean, I'm, I'm a morning person.
So when I drum on about rituals 

835
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,480
for me, they tend to be a lot of
them are framed around the 

836
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,240
morning. 
And again, it's, it's, it's 

837
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:42,400
funny that I think I even felt 
like I'm in a WhatsApp group 

838
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,760
with some of my closest friends.
And I'm sure that I only asked 

839
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,400
them not so long ago. 
They, you know, are you a 

840
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,320
morning person or not? 
And, and you know, the, the, the

841
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,520
debate got out there as to who's
what. 

842
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,280
And, and again, I'm not, I'm not
trying, I'm not, there's not a 

843
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,440
preference in this, you know, 
everybody's different. 

844
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,240
But for me having the rituals in
the morning and, and some of 

845
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:09,160
them for me when I've, I'm, I'm 
not big on my phone. 

846
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,200
I know a lot of people that get 
up and first thing they'll do is

847
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,040
reach for the phone like I have 
managed to. 

848
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,960
And again, I think it just for 
people that want to improve, I 

849
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,080
would say that there's no quick 
fix in this. 

850
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,280
It is a lifestyle shift that 
you're trying to make. 

851
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,200
And, and that's what I would 
always identify to people that 

852
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,720
this isn't going to happen 
overnight. 

853
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,920
You know, literally you do have 
to restart reframing your mind 

854
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,160
and, and putting the steps in 
place. 

855
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,840
But for me, I like to get up 
first in the morning and I 

856
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,800
normally read about two pages of
a book. 

857
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,320
So it's hard because I, I tend 
to try and stay in bed. 

858
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,600
But I like that because 
automatically, like that's the 

859
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,880
first challenge because you've, 
you've still got the comfort of 

860
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,200
the bed and the warmth and the 
lights are normally dim because 

861
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,560
obviously my wife's still 
asleep. 

862
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,800
So I've got to make sure it's a 
dim light. 

863
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,240
But I see that as a challenge to
you've really got to consciously

864
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,320
try and stay awake and keep 
focused on the book. 

865
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,120
So even just for 2 pages. 
And if I do that, I'll find 

866
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,200
right, well, that's like the 
sort of first ritual, the first 

867
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,080
task tipped off, get out, out of
bed. 

868
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,240
And then for me it's, it's 
movement. 

869
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,840
Well, after I've freshened up, 
which is pretty basic stuff. 

870
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520
I always like to think that 
there's routines and there's 

871
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,160
rituals, ritual routines. 
Routinely I would say to 

872
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,520
somebody, in order for you to 
get out of the house in the 

873
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,520
morning, what's the very basic 
that you need to do? 

874
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Or will I get up, get dressed, 
brush my teeth, you know, the 

875
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,280
very basics, right? 
So what can you add into there 

876
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,640
that are going to improve your 
well-being? 

877
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,320
Well, you don't necessarily need
to, but you know that they'll 

878
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,080
have an extra benefit in there. 
And for a lot of people, just 

879
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,960
exercising. 
I mean, I like to go to the gym,

880
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,440
but getting up and and just 
exercising just lightly, nothing

881
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,320
strenuous. 
But I know that my energy isn't 

882
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,240
the same if I leave the house 
and don't have that exercise. 

883
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,760
So again, sometimes I know that 
I had a friend and they were 

884
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,040
saying that they were sort of 
stressing out to the level that 

885
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:25,000
if his youngest daughter woke up
and sort of disturbed their 

886
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,560
routines in the morning or 
through night, they didn't get 

887
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,400
as much sleep. 
So it's therefore a knitted 

888
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,200
chocolate. 
But I'm like, well, instead of 

889
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,960
doing 30 reps of whatever 
exercise you were doing, just do

890
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,640
10. 
And then at least you can sort 

891
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,640
of check that box off to say, 
well, I've still done what I 

892
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,360
needed to do, it just wasn't 
that length of time. 

893
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:51,040
So for me, I mean that that's a 
ritual in itself, that if you 

894
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,000
can stick to the rituals that 
you've got, rather than just 

895
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,240
thinking, Oh, well, I've slept 
in or I've done this and just 

896
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,360
write the whole thing off. 
Because again, you, you will 

897
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,840
only sort of fall into that trap
of looking back and telling 

898
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,080
yourself the story that, oh, 
well, I'm never making any 

899
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,320
progress. 
So it's, it's easy. 

900
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,920
It's a hard game to get into in 
the sense that once you become 

901
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,640
self aware and you want to 
improve, there's there's so many

902
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,080
right and wrongs to how we will 
go about it. 

903
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,080
I'm trying to think you said 
something before and I'm trying 

904
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,240
to refer him back and I think 
it's gone and I've lost it. 

905
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,720
But it was for me, I was 
thinking that it's in order to 

906
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,960
improve. 
You want to do this. 

907
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:44,560
But sometimes that was him in 
how many steps is is right? 

908
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,440
So if you're looking at somebody
and saying that's where I want 

909
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,560
to be, but you don't realise 
that there's underneath that 

910
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,680
there's 10 steps and you're 
trying to jump from step one to 

911
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,320
step 10. 
That's, that's a big jump. 

912
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,840
You need to go from step one to 
two, possibly 3. 

913
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,480
So it's trying to find that 
right balance as to think right.

914
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,040
Well, just because somebody's 
there, that's my aim. 

915
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,240
But I've got to take a different
approach, a different route or 

916
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,920
take their same approach. 
But what they're doing 8 years 

917
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,360
ago, like it is actually a 
lifestyle shift. 

918
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,080
So yeah, there's a, there's a 
lot of variables to it, but I'm 

919
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,320
curious to know what. 
I do have many rituals that you 

920
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,600
like to follow. 
Yeah, I've got kind of a short 

921
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:26,880
one. 
My first one is that she'd wake 

922
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,120
up and get out the door. 
I, I had try and create as much 

923
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,200
space between me and the phone 
first thing in the morning. 

924
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,960
So I'll wake up, literally just 
get dressed, don't even brush my

925
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,520
teeth and just get outside. 
There's like a 10 minute loop 

926
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,720
around my house, 10 to 15 if 
that, and I will walk out there.

927
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:45,560
No phone, no headphones, no 
nothing. 

928
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,000
Just kind of like just a waking 
up, B sort of just clicked in my

929
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,360
forks kind of thinking about the
day. 

930
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,040
And by the time I get in, I feel
like I've almost earned the 

931
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,200
right to have a cup of coffee. 
Because I feel like if I wake up

932
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,800
and just have coffee straight 
away, I'm like, fucking hell, 

933
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,320
I'm just like dousing myself in 
caffeine. 

934
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,680
So it gives me that kind of 
space in between, if you like, 

935
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,960
and then it'll be journaling. 
So journaling every morning. 

936
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,400
And then I've tried to implement
recently a bit of like 

937
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,960
meditation and breath work just 
to kind of see more, more so for

938
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,520
the visualisation benefits, 
which I've been reading about 

939
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,760
in, in a couple of books. 
That one is a lot harder to 

940
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,840
stick. 
I, I, I struggle with sitting 

941
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,720
still, but it's a, it's a habit 
that I'm trying to curate. 

942
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:29,080
But other than that, the main 
thing really is just to get the 

943
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,640
first hour away from my phone 
for the first hour of a day with

944
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,400
no phone and some form of 
movement when I wake up. 

945
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,120
Because then that kind of gives 
me the space to set the 

946
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,280
intention for the day, think 
about what is I want to do, 

947
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,840
think about tasks and everything
that I've got in the calendar. 

948
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,640
And if I do that, I usually put 
myself in quite a good position 

949
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,200
to to show up as a better man 
that day. 

950
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,440
Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean, I 
would. 

951
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,240
That's one of the first things I
would encourage everyone to do 

952
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:56,200
it. 
You know, it's like rituals. 

953
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,840
But also, again, if people say, 
well, I can't seem to stick to 

954
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,560
any rituals, I can get them 
down. 

955
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,280
The next question would be your 
environment, your home, the 

956
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,760
room, because that can just have
just a big impact that if you 

957
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,920
get up and your house is a shit 
tip, just simply like you 

958
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,600
haven't tidied up the night 
before, then no wonder that you 

959
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,560
don't want to do the rituals 
that you've set out. 

960
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,080
We've set them with good 
intention, but the environment 

961
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,920
doesn't influence them rituals 
very well. 

962
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,720
So like there's some, it's a bit
of a domino effect if you don't 

963
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:31,040
get the first one right then. 
So but yeah, there's there's 

964
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,720
again, self improvement. 
It is quite a big scope and it's

965
00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:39,720
trying to help people funnel it 
down to what serves them best. 

966
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,160
100 percent, 100% where can 
people go if they want to see 

967
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,360
more of your stuff? 
For me, at the minute, I'm just 

968
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,120
trying to push everything out on
social media as as big as 

969
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,080
possible. 
So Facebook's probably the main 

970
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,720
one for me. 
So if if anything, go Facebook. 

971
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:55,800
But TikTok, I'm pretty new on to
that. 

972
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,960
But TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,
they're probably the main 

973
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,840
platforms that you would find me
throwing a can around and 

974
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,240
dealing with big energy things. 
But yeah. 

975
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,360
Yeah, I love it. 
Well, I appreciate you coming 

976
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,440
on. 
Well, I do appreciate this. 

977
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,600
So thanks very much for the the 
opportunity to lose. 

978
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,200
I'm very grateful for you. 
No worries.