1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,640 Are we supposed to introduce ourselves and do we do to the 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,480 camera this one? Hi, I'm Ali Wong. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,600 Hi, I'm Oscar Isaac. And this is the 824 podcasts. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,280 I'm using my podcast. For you, you sure are very NPR. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,200 Of you. Very non threatening, very cozy 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,600 cardigan. Very cloud. 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,440 Yeah, so Oscar, I don't even know. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:29,320 Like, I just assume that people who are movie stars don't watch 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,760 TV 'cause it's beneath you. So I was surprised that you were 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,440 a fan of Beef and that you watched Beef. 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,840 So how did you even come on to Season 1? 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,160 Well, everybody was talking about it. 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,800 I remember watching the 1st 2 episodes and like just loving 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,520 it. And then I have children that 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,920 don't let me watch anything. So then I didn't get to finish. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,520 It was one of those was like, I got to finish that. 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,560 And then I'd gotten a call from Sonny about a new season. 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,680 And so I was like, well, now I got to got to finish it and, and 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,960 I loved it and it was so funny because like I already liked it 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,000 from those first two. But then in that third episode, 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,640 it takes such a turn emotionally, you know, and 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Stevens at the the church and, and the song is playing and he 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,000 starts crying and yeah. You know what's funny about that 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,840 is that so in that scene where he starts crying, we were all at 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,600 dinner together and I was like, Oh my God, Steven. 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,280 I just watched that scene. And I was like, he was like, oh, 27 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:26,520 yeah. And I was like, it's so funny. 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,440 And he was like, no, it's not. And I was like, yeah, it is, 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,480 man. That was like, it's hilarious 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,600 how you just start how like you're like that and you just 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,200 start crying. And he was like, I don't. 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,680 And can't stop. And yeah. 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,680 And then he was like, I didn't think it was I, I really don't 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,600 see it or whatever. And then I was so uncomfortable 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,720 and I went to go to the bathroom at this like green BBQ because I 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,760 was like, Oh my God, did I have Steven? 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,960 And but then they're after a lot of people. 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,400 And then he sort of like embraced it. 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,920 But he because he was so committed, that's why it worked, 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,480 because he can't judge it and think that that scene is funny. 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,480 You know what? It reminds me of everyone I was 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,600 doing Inside Llewyn Davis and whenever. 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,400 I, which I just saw recently, yeah. 44 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:10,560 Well, when I when I would. Do so good. 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,920 So, so cute. When I would do a scene and if I 46 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:15,880 thought of it, I was like, oh, this scene's pretty funny. 47 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,600 I would do it and there, you know, there wouldn't be much a 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 reaction. But whenever I was in my most in 49 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,200 pain. Yeah. 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,800 The cones would just be cracking up. 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,720 Yeah, I think that commitment, you know where it is, so you do 52 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,920 take it seriously. The part of you that can connect 53 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:37,240 to taking it seriously is like, that's what makes it work. 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,240 For sure. I mean, I think it's also like 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,800 Sonny's tone, right? The fact that that is happening, 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,360 which is very real, but surrounded by all this like 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,400 hyper Christian praise music that's happening at the same 58 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,280 time. And I grew up in like 59 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,680 evangelical, like Christian world. 60 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,080 And so it also I found it very funny from that standpoint as 61 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,440 well. And like the youth groups and 62 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,200 like the rock, Christian rock and all that. 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,080 But it is what I loved so much about talking to Sonny about 64 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,040 this one too. This this beef too, is his 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,240 incredible observations of things that are both really 66 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,640 painful and really funny and like the absurdity and like, 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,400 like in a way that compassion with how small people can be. 68 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:25,400 Yeah, it was. So, I mean, it's Season 2 is so 69 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,680 great. You're so great in that. 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,080 You're so funny. I mean it. 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Means a lot, so. Funny. 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,280 I mean, you everyone knows that you're funny from I think. 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,160 What do you think? I think like it's when I watched 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Ex Machina, that's kind of when I got put on to like, I was 75 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,280 like, oh, this dude's like so, so funny. 76 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,880 In addition to being a great actor. 77 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,920 Like when you're wearing that like that fur vest and you're 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,520 like having the time of your life and then it all the joy 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,920 just like drains quickly. Like you go up and you go down 80 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,920 and then you're like down about being down. 81 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,880 It was like there was just, yeah, like a lot of really. 82 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,920 And you have like a real menace to you too, which is like, which 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,880 is such a fun part of Beef too, because in a way, like you're 84 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,320 not really like a gangster, but everyone in Beef is like, gets 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,680 to be a bad person and it's so fun. 86 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,800 But so how much did you ideate with Sonny over your character? 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,560 Well, that's I'm curious about you too, because I mean this for 88 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,400 for you like the transition too from from stand up into 89 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,160 something like this, you know, like what that was like for you. 90 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:36,160 And I was very curious, you know, going into this, you know, 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,440 this role and beef that you had was like so massive and asked so 92 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,120 much of you how that transition worked for you and what your 93 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,280 conversations with Sonny were like. 94 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:47,760 So I want to hear about that, but I'll answer you about this 95 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,040 is it was I mean, it was like a courtship. 96 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Remember, I was I was doing Frankenstein at the same time 97 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,840 and we would have these he. Gets so excited when he calls. 98 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:58,400 Yeah. And we'd have two and a half 99 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,120 hour conversations that like I would cry. 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,000 We would go really deep. If I read anything from like a 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 self help book recently, I'd like, hey, I just read this and 102 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,040 we would just go down that path together. 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Incredibly open about his own life, which encouraged me to be 104 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 open about mine, which was strange with somebody I'd never 105 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:19,760 met other than just on Zoom. And so his sensibility is really 106 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,560 what won me over because at the at that time, I think there was 107 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,320 maybe 1 episode and even that episode it wasn't quite there 108 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,160 yet. There was some ideas, but it was 109 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,520 out of those conversations where I thought this, he's got his 110 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,840 bead on something and he's really funny and we connect so 111 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:41,360 much on just like the spiritual journey of getting into middle 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,600 age. Yeah, I mean, he really asks. 113 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,520 I mean, you've seen those tie dye T-shirts with the Ram Das 114 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,600 quotes that he wears like he's a very spiritual person. 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:55,280 And so it's sort of like begs of you to really be vulnerable and 116 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:57,560 open up with him personally in those conversations. 117 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,520 And then it's really interesting what he extracts and 118 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,600 extrapolates from there to your character. 119 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,800 And then it's like it's kind of the best version of Co creating 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,560 with somebody. But there were times where like 121 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,480 for some of the scenes I I'm wasn't used to memorizing like 122 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,640 that amount of dialogue, but. Do you? 123 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,320 Do you memorize your standard routines? 124 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,520 I do, but I write all of it, right. 125 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,120 And so with, with a lot of some of the dialogue, I was like, I 126 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,680 remember there was one day we did like that, you know, because 127 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,800 we were had a lot of time constraints. 128 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,840 And I, I said to him, I was like, I can't do this in one 129 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:37,000 take. I know you want to do it in one 130 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,600 take, but I just can't do it. And he's like, I think you can 131 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,960 do it. And then he's like, we got to 132 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,040 go. And then that was it. 133 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,200 And then we, I kind of just didn't have a choice to think 134 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,640 about it too much. So and I'm not the kind of 135 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,320 person to like go back and forth with him because it just, it's, 136 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,120 it exhausts me. So I'm like. 137 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,280 To. Try to fight it and I and I see, 138 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:59,640 you know, like I think that's a lot of people's process because 139 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:05,280 it's like in that they understand more or I don't know, 140 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,760 I don't really know. I don't really relate to that. 141 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,400 I just am like, go, I'll go where you tell me and I'll do 142 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,000 whatever you say and then I just kind of say the words. 143 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,600 But so. But we also just didn't have 144 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,560 time because it we hadn't. One. 145 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,680 Yeah, exactly. So I think that was like really 146 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,200 a blessing because I just didn't have time to. 147 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,360 Think about it, was it like that for you? 148 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,680 The overthinking. When like on your first big 149 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,960 project. Where you like, didn't I mean, I 150 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:41,120 was so hungry to get an opportunity coming out of drama 151 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:41,840 school. Yeah. 152 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,200 That I think when I got it, I just was like, this is 153 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,920 everything. This is going to be my dog day 154 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,360 afternoon. You know, and what was. 155 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,160 That this was a movie that Scott Burns, a good buddy of mine, 156 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,280 says he's a great writer and it was the first film that he 157 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,640 directed. It was this. 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,400 It was called PU 239, which is like a plutonium isotope. 159 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,520 But it was like playing these this Russian gangster trying to 160 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,200 sell plutonium on the black market. 161 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Oh, yeah, and you're like, this is very important. 162 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is. 163 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Going to change the world change. 164 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,480 The world. Yeah. 165 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,200 So, yeah, yeah. And I, and I am a can be 166 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,360 overthinker and like, like to talk about things and like to 167 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,000 try things and question everything. 168 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,520 Like it says I go and I come in through the door, but why don't 169 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,040 I come in through the window? Why I don't come in through the 170 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,440 thing? Why doesn't it so that it all 171 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,720 like all the possibilities collapse to the only thing it 172 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,760 can be? I see. 173 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,520 That's kind of fun for me, you know? 174 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,200 And in fact, figuring out what it is is usually kind of a 175 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,360 bummer, because then it means all the other possibilities. 176 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,400 That is gone. You know you. 177 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,679 Know I like when it might be anything. 178 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,880 It could be this, it could be that, it could be this. 179 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,919 Did you collaborate a lot on your wardrobe? 180 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,960 Because I found your wardrobe so subtle. 181 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,000 But that's another thing about beef. 182 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,720 It's very subtly funny. The wardrobe, like Carrie's 183 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,840 wardrobe, cracked me up too. Yeah, yeah, the wardrobe. 184 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,200 Was she was wearing like those, like these coordinated linen 185 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,840 suits that had embroidered like little dumb things on them. 186 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,880 And then your wardrobe was like, it was just so coated and still. 187 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Oh, OK. What did it say to you? 188 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,560 Well, Olga's incredible. Yeah, she's amazing. 189 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:15,360 She's like, she's astounding. And she's so funny and subtle as 190 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,760 well. But before that, the first place 191 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,000 I started with was the hair. And I worked with somebody named 192 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,320 Tim Nolan. It was incredible. 193 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,840 And the first thing I do is like, OK, what's this? 194 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:25,960 What's this head going to look like? 195 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,240 You know, you're going to see a lot of this head. 196 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,320 What are we doing? And we we landed on this like 197 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,960 little mullet. Yeah, it's like. 198 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:39,600 It's the tiniest, it's the tiniest rebellion you know of 199 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,160 trying to hold on to. Something. 200 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,000 Yeah, exactly to. Use until like, hey man, I know 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,200 I'm a I'm I'm a, you know, Country Club. 202 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,320 Manager guy, you know. Man, I'm a cool guy and that's 203 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,320 was like that. Was like really riding that 204 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,040 line, like with that, like it followed through with the whole. 205 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Wardrobe. Yeah, exactly. 206 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,440 So that was really important. And sometimes we would take our 207 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,280 cues off of Sunny, of like what he was wearing and the Crocs. 208 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,240 And Oh yeah, yeah, the. Oversized sweaters and, you 209 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,320 know, playing with that idea and, and also what the suits 210 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,200 looked like. And we wanted the suits to look 211 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,360 like it's something that he wants to look good in, but he 212 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,440 doesn't want to look like an agent or something, you know, So 213 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,760 he's, and he wears his, the, the aura ring. 214 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,840 Well. And all these little things that 215 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,480 kind of he's. Really like trying to still have 216 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,080 it. All. 217 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's a great thing I heard 218 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,800 recently, which I feel like kind of encompasses Josh. 219 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:32,760 I heard someone say you can have anything you want, but you can't 220 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,840 have everything you want. And I think the show is a lot 221 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,360 above people trying to have everything they want, you know? 222 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,360 And you, you know, it's just endless grasping, Endless 223 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,880 grasping. Yeah, just even when he's 224 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,200 talking to like the who's the guy who's super rich at the 225 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,480 club, who has the private? Troy yeah, talking. 226 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,640 To Troy and like, you're still trying to have everything and 227 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,040 you're like, not even like it's so. 228 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,800 I mean, Troy plays it really well, but you're like not 229 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,040 reading in the room. Whereas before you're so like, 230 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,160 your character's so sensitive, you're so desperate that it's 231 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,440 like you're not, you're you can't read his this clear sign 232 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,200 that he's like that something's off you. 233 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,280 Know. Yeah, yeah. 234 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,120 The desperation overtakes all of that, the fear and all that. 235 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,040 What was it like working with Carrie again after all these 236 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,200 years? Because I just Bill showed me 237 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,280 inside. Lolan Davis. 238 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,400 Because I'd never seen it before. 239 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,160 And I was like, this is amazing. And you hadn't worked with her 240 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,920 since then, right? I hadn't worked with, so we 241 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,440 worked together in a movie called Drive. 242 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,360 Oh, right. Way way. 243 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,880 That was the first time I had met her. 244 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 We were both still in our our 20s and. 245 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,400 You guys are a couple. In Drive. 246 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,520 Yeah. Oh no, you're not. 247 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,080 In drive we, we. Are. 248 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,000 But then you die. Yes, so fast. 249 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,480 Yeah, like I'm in prison. And then her and Ryan Gosling 250 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,000 kind of get together, right. And so we were like young and 251 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,760 Hollywood and just things were starting to open up. 252 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,760 And it was like amazing to meet her at that moment. 253 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,080 And, you know, and then years later, Lou and Davis and I had 254 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,320 met my significant other. She had met her significant 255 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,320 other, Marcus, and we were just like newly in love and like this 256 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,400 big, you know, role and about music and and so that was 257 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,280 amazing to meet at that point and then now to come together 258 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,960 again. Is it true that you also 259 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,280 auditioned for that at the very last minute? 260 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,120 For Lou Davis. It like like they had already 261 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,000 decide like a decision. They hadn't decided yet, but 262 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,400 they they were. I had heard that a decision had 263 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,000 been made. Well, they were getting close. 264 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,200 I. Think, And then you came in and 265 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,400 they they weren't really familiar with you. 266 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,600 And then after you sang and you had auditioned, they were like, 267 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,680 Oh no, they don't have a choice. They. 268 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,560 Didn't tell me that. Part. 269 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:46,760 That's what I've. Heard that's funny. 270 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,120 Yeah. No, I mean, it was definitely, 271 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,000 it was the the character was designed on Dave Van Ronk, who 272 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,600 was like a six foot five, £200 Swede, you know. 273 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,640 But anyway, yeah. So then we met on that after we 274 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,200 have kids and we've lived a lot of life. 275 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,000 It was just, I've never worked with anybody better. 276 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,560 She's just, I talk about, you know, you know, with kids where 277 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,080 they talk about parallel play, right? 278 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,120 It's like kids play next to each other, you know, and, and then a 279 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,840 developmental thing is when they actually start playing with each 280 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,360 other. And it's like acting with her 281 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,720 feels like, oh, usually I'm just doing parallel play. 282 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,760 You know, usually I'm just kind of doing my thing next to 283 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,280 somebody doing their thing. Often it can feel that way. 284 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,680 But with her it's, I don't know, it's just something else 285 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:32,560 happens. And I just think I'm mesmerized 286 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,920 by her. Yeah, it really feels that way, 287 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,640 like when you when you guys are together. 288 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,680 And I think it's because, I don't know if it's because also 289 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,640 we have this as an audience, have a relationship with you 290 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,680 guys as a couple in these different forms, but it kind of 291 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:51,760 already feels like you have reincarnated many times. 292 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,200 Like. Together as as, I don't know, it 293 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,080 was really interesting and that I mean, that's the other thing 294 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,680 that's interesting with, you know, Sunny when he does 295 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:06,480 casting, it's all very, very intentional. 296 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,000 So I think he takes that into account too. 297 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,040 But. Yeah, I think that was a big 298 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,360 part of it. And then when we started 299 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,040 working, especially on that first fight scene. 300 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,080 You have to be really comfortable with someone to go 301 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,840 there. Yeah, yeah. 302 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,560 And also just to write it together, like the three of us 303 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,760 wrote that thing together. You know, I mean, he wrote it, 304 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,080 but the way that we workshopped it, the way that we would come, 305 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,480 we would do very long improvisations and some of that, 306 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,480 you know, and that kind of Sidney Lumet style would come 307 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,800 into the, you know, he would incorporate that and write 308 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,200 around it. And yeah, it was that was really 309 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,680 exciting to kind of have authorship over it that way. 310 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,440 I mean, you know, we're a couple of EPS sitting here, a couple of 311 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:52,360 beefy PS you know, that was a really cool feeling to really 312 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,200 feel like. Yeah, that's the best part about 313 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,600 working with him, you know? And then you're like, did I? 314 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,040 And then you watch it and you're like, oh, like he put that in. 315 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,640 We put that in there. Oh my God. 316 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,400 Yeah, for sure. OK. 317 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,160 When I would get some of the scripts, I'd be like oh. 318 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,360 Yeah. That's a direct quote right 319 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,440 there. I'm not sure I can, no. 320 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,440 OK, there's two things I know Sonny loves. 321 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:21,040 He loves it when people get at somebody with their bodily 322 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,240 fluids. He loves that. 323 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,360 He also, and he had it twice this season, but you were a, you 324 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,480 were a unknowing receiver of that. 325 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Of the body fluids. Yeah, but he also, there's also. 326 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,280 I give some bodily fluids. Too. 327 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,240 Oh, you do. There's also the your 328 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,800 masturbation scene. Is that your first masturbation 329 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,480 scene? No, it can't. 330 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,680 It wouldn't have. Been I surely have had many more 331 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,920 masturbation scenes that I can't think of at the moment, but I 332 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,560 mean it, it might. I mean, it's OK, so you did 333 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,640 great. But but I believe it. 334 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,600 But that's, that's the thing. Like, again, you have to not 335 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,560 think that you're doing a masturbation scene. 336 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,640 Like you have to really commit because it's an embarrassing 337 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:12,120 thing to do in front of people. So you really have to like, but 338 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,960 I don't know, I mean, for you was it? 339 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,240 You're like, oh, what? I've done it 100 times. 340 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Have I done it once? Clearly it was like not. 341 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,520 I've just been around for a long I'm like, I'm sure, I'm sure I 342 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,880 did did it somewhere. It, I mean, of course, it's so 343 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,480 goofy like the the but. You have to make it not look 344 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,880 goofy. You can't be like, you can't be 345 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,440 like cartoonish about it. You have to like. 346 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,800 Yeah, and the truth. Is when most people masturbate. 347 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,920 It probably doesn't look good. No, no, we thought. 348 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,520 That was a big talk, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 349 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,000 Sony and I on set talking about like, well, how and then how 350 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,440 should we do this? And so he's like, well, if I was 351 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,200 going to do it like this, I was like, oh, that's interesting. 352 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,320 Legs splayed out all right. Laptop. 353 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Laptop. Yeah. 354 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,200 OK. What if I'm more of like, I 355 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,480 guess the side kind of on the side and we would try to set 356 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,920 that up and like, what, what, what, what story does that tell? 357 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,359 You know? Yeah. 358 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,960 How much self love is it? You know, you know, there's a 359 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,480 lot of elements of that expression. 360 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,599 But you know, for us being like, OK, well, I guess this is kind 361 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:16,240 of his safe space and it means a lot to him to be able to. 362 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,079 He's in his man case, man case. He's actually a A. 363 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,119 No one's watching. He's mindful. 364 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,599 Yeah. It's not just like, let me just 365 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:24,480 like, yeah, rub one out while no one's. 366 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,599 Around, yeah, this isn't, this is like this is the wind down. 367 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:29,040 Exactly. It's the wind down. 368 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,000 Right, that's what it felt like. Yeah. 369 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,400 Yeah, you know where it's like some. 370 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,120 It felt very real. Yeah, in that way. 371 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,840 Yeah, exactly. And and also, I mean, that was 372 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,560 something that that through our conversations got added in that 373 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,000 wasn't there originally. Not not only the masturbation, 374 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,880 but the only fans, you know, there was it, it felt like, you 375 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,680 know what, I think he's got to have something of his own that 376 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,640 he's holding that he's that's a place where he allows himself 377 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,720 like some freedom. I mean, that was ultimately the 378 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,240 big thing with Josh is like I found even playing him, even 379 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,440 talking about him, I start to go back into my throat. 380 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,360 Like this because. He was like such a strangled 381 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:07,200 character. I actually had to do work with 382 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,360 somebody to be like, I don't, I'm this thing is strangling me 383 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:12,120 too much. I don't know why, you know, that 384 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:14,480 happens. And it's it's, I think it's just 385 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,920 a real testament to his writing, which is that it's just as a 386 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,040 response that it creates in me when I start thinking about him 387 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,720 and his life and how things go. It's just everything gets tight. 388 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,920 Yeah, I think that's like a common thing with all I That's 389 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,960 very relatable. But all the characters in Beef 390 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:37,840 have a way of feeling really trapped, you know, by, by a life 391 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,080 that they built for themselves, you know, or by. 392 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,120 Yeah, these, these constructions, right, these 393 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:47,440 constructs of identity and of life and of surroundings and of 394 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,480 goals and, and inevitably like everything that is constructed 395 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,440 falls apart at some point. What was it like working with 396 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,720 Kaylee and Charles? They were so great. 397 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,800 I mean, I've been a huge fan of Kaylee's actually for a while. 398 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,280 Remember seeing her in Devs, which is Alex Garland. 399 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,680 He did this show and she played like a little boy, or not that 400 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,760 little, but like a teenage boy. Oh wow. 401 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Who who is he? And it's like, actually, it's 402 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,520 Kaylee's Fanny. And I was like, this is an 403 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,760 incredible, incredible performance. 404 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,680 And she was she's great. She, I mean, that scene that we 405 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,680 get to do at the beverage cart, like when on the golf course, 406 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,440 you know, it was like one of the first scenes. 407 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,200 It's so fun, yeah. Because she's not saying 408 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,120 anything. No, no, it's just. 409 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,560 Yeah, just. Twitchy and like trying to you 410 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,080 know, yeah, say the right thing you. 411 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:38,680 Know and then she just really goes on the journey yeah of 412 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,880 being just like corrupted. Yeah, yeah, you see that. 413 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,440 So, you know, she was fantastic. And then Charles is such a 414 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,640 Mensch, is like such a beautiful soul, like so funny as well. 415 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,880 And and he's great. I think I just, I find that the 416 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,880 character that he made just indelible. 417 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,720 And so he's just, he's so great. He's pitch perfect in this 418 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,080 thing. I I really, yeah. 419 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,520 I love working with him. The speech you give to Charles 420 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,920 after you do Bufo and like, I love that. 421 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,600 I love the Bufo scene so much. And when you're, they do the 422 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,520 like what you're seeing and then they cut to you just on the 423 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,920 ground like like when and your hand, it's like, and you're on 424 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,840 the ground and the way you're like again, I mean, when you do 425 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,360 psychedelics, it's not fucking cute. 426 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,960 Like like with masturbating like people and like a lot of times 427 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,840 again, when they, when on TV, when they masturbate, they like 428 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,520 are feeling their hair and they're like going like this. 429 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,040 I'm like, no one is doing that. Like your fists are clenched. 430 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,440 It's like a tense experience and like a lot of times with 431 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,560 psychedelics, like when you're position, when you're positioned 432 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,960 like that and doing that, I'm like, that's exactly you look 433 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,400 like a squid on the floor. That's like out of water. 434 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,440 That's, that's exactly what I, I know I look like that in Joshua 435 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,120 Tree at that Airbnb, you know, so it's I was like, who made 436 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,680 that decision? Well, that was thankfully, I 437 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,000 mean, this, you know, YouTube is an amazing place. 438 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:13,080 So I was like, there's gotta be people on Bufo on YouTube. 439 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,480 Uh huh. And so I went down a rabbit hole 440 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:22,440 and I found somebody making that exact sound, going like bubbling 441 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,920 saliva, you know, and then and then read more about it. 442 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,360 And like, it can give seizures and it can give different kinds 443 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,760 of, you know, the reactions. There's lots of different 444 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,920 reactions, especially if people start having a freak out. 445 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,200 Yeah. And so there's some videos. 446 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,600 But there's a way and that feels like that when you're doing that 447 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,520 was like, there's a way that feels good. 448 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,080 Yeah, yeah, you're just very. Free and channelling. 449 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,640 Yeah, like that guy. Like a baby, like whatever, 450 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,360 whatever you're like experiencing where it's like, it 451 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,480 can be exhilarating, it can be like a big release or whatever. 452 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,960 But I was like that. Is it's an animal release? 453 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,400 Yeah. It's like an animal. 454 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,640 That's why it was like, it was like a true, like a sea 455 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,040 creature. I was like, this is really like 456 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,720 that fluttering. I was like, oh, this is very, 457 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,400 very real. Well, the way that you guys did 458 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,040 that whole psychedelic scene was so also very beautiful, you 459 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,640 know, and, and. So deep and. 460 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:15,800 I mean, it's, it lifts in such an amazing way, that part. 461 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,520 So that I don't know if Sonny told you, we didn't know we were 462 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,160 what we were doing, I think until a week before. 463 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,800 OK, see I'm seeing a pattern here. 464 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,760 Seeing a pattern. Here, Sunny Lee. 465 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,960 And then and then and then and then all of a sudden we were 466 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,160 just in that that National Park or forest. 467 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,880 And I was like, OK, I guess, no, no time to fight, no time. 468 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,760 That's his trick. I mean, we were in Korea like. 469 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,520 Shooting. Where you going to go? 470 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Yeah. You going to complain too? 471 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,160 Yeah, nobody. Get those. 472 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,840 Get those pages. Here. 473 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,280 But it's kind of good, yeah, you know. 474 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,880 Yeah. And especially at the, at what 475 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,200 point in the shoot did you guys shoot that? 476 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Was that towards the end? That was at the. 477 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,920 End. That was at the end, yeah. 478 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,200 So there's some trust at that point too, that you know what's 479 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,400 what. Yeah, well, at that point too, 480 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,920 it was. I had worked with Sonny before. 481 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,040 What did you do? He was a writer on this 482 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,720 animation show I did with Ohio. You're former You're a former Co 483 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,000 star for at the card counter Tiffany Haddish and I used to 484 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,400 play these best friends who were birds Tiffany. 485 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,080 I have to say it was very funny that OK, so that I love Tiffany 486 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,440 and she's one of my dear friends. 487 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,240 That trailer. OK. 488 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,360 I laughed so hard. When there's the glass between 489 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,120 you and there's the shot. Really good. 490 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,360 Do you know I'm talking about Yeah. 491 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:50,720 And then her long. The credits start to go over the 492 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,600 what? What is this movie? 493 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,400 What is this? What is? 494 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,480 This alternate. Paul Schrader, man, he's a wacky 495 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:09,680 dude, yeah. Well, and dance and her long 496 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,960 fingernails shaking This, this is like hilarious combination. 497 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,960 So Sonny wrote on that. We've told this story a million 498 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,760 times, but he he had wanted to do this, you know, show about a 499 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,640 road rage incident he had with this guy and he wanted Steven in 500 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,000 it. And he always pictured the 501 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,920 opposite character, Stanley Tucci. 502 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,640 Did he tell you that? I think I'd heard that. 503 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,280 Yeah, Oh yeah. And then and then I randomly had 504 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,120 a conversation with Sunny during COVID. 505 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,280 I'm sure it's been your issue. The whole career is always. 506 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Stanley Tucci or me. I know it's like some women are 507 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,160 like that. Jessie Buckley, always. 508 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,480 And I'm like Stanley. I wanted, I wanted that. 509 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,920 I wanted that pasta show, but I wanted to play the killer in The 510 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Lovely Bones. Is he the killer in The Lovely 511 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,160 Bones? He was. 512 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,080 The killer in. Love. 513 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,840 So then I talked to Sunny one day during COVID and he was 514 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,800 like, you know, this whole time I wanted Stanley Tucci. 515 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,120 But now I think it would be a lot more interesting if it was 516 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:09,920 you. And I was like, Oh my gosh, yes. 517 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,600 I would like. It's been my dream to work with 518 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,880 Steven, and you're such a fantastic writer. 519 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,040 That would be amazing to collaborate with you guys. 520 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,520 Yeah, I've never done anything like that before. 521 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,320 And then once we started actually getting into it, I was 522 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,840 like, what have I done? But it was great and I I mean, 523 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,760 it was one of the best experiences of my life just 524 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,920 because of how collaborative it was. 525 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,080 And then like, I don't want to get like too woo woo, but like I 526 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,440 do feel very I mean, those guys and I still remain very close. 527 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,960 You know, it really is, I imagine and I hope to have the 528 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,080 kind of working relationship that you have with Carrie for 529 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,840 like years to come with Steven, you know, just because you, you 530 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,880 really don't find that every day. 531 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,160 You know, I used to think when people would talk about 532 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,480 chemistry, I always thought it was like, I always thought it 533 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,080 was like a romantic sexual thing. 534 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,400 But it's really not that at all. No, I think it's more about 535 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,600 ease, You know, it's like I, I remember sometimes doing 536 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,760 auditions, I remember I was doing like whatever, it was a 537 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,960 play and I'd already been cast. I had to read with a lot of 538 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,320 people coming in and, and sometimes like I couldn't tell 539 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,120 who was better, just sometimes it was way easier to do the 540 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,080 scenes and sometimes it was a lot harder. 541 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,600 And not because they were necessarily worse hackers, not 542 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,760 there was just something that made it like easy. 543 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:36,800 You know, that's a It's rare. OK. 544 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Is that it? Yeah. 545 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,680 Do we want a more nice conclusion? 546 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,760 OK, great. It'll just fade out on us 547 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,240 talking.