1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,720 Hi, I'm Will Poulter. And I'm Charles Melton, and this 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,320 is the A 24 podcast. Dive right in. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Dive right, right in. The A 24 podcast. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,160 Pretty cool. Really cool man. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,160 It's so cool to be a part of a film, for one. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,360 Yes. And then a 24 is so cool. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,080 I know man. And then? 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Alice Garland and Ray Mendoza. Dude, that's nuts, right? 9 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:25,040 All you guys, it's pretty incredible. 10 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:30,000 It's been a pretty kind of like Dreamy combination of things. 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,000 You know, I was talking to someone about how impressive I 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,680 think it is. There was Co directed because I 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,640 actually was able to say this to, you know, Alex and Ray, who 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,440 are both like strong personalities. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,440 And I was able to say it's, I hope in a way where they were 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,120 able to kind of like, you know, receive it in the spirit in 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,360 which I said it, which was like, I wasn't sure how to such like 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,440 strong kind of like personalities would fare when it 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,400 came to Co directing. And it required both of them to 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,920 like practice this amazing level of like self-awareness and 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,560 humility and deference to each other over different things and 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,040 watching that happen. And then like a massive group of 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,480 guys as well, you just wonder like, it's a lot of 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,280 testosterone, it's a lot of like personalities and it's, it's 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,240 kind of amazing how it all came together. 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,680 It's felt very just like, yeah, both Alex, very selfless. 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,160 Yes, you know, there's different kinds of egos, but there's no 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,960 ego that got in the way. Just like this whole story 29 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:43,160 because and even with all of us guys and everything, and what we 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,280 did is I kind of, it kind of felt like we were all on Ground 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,720 Zero. Yeah, Right. 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,280 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,640 And, you know, we showed up and did a lot of different things 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:59,000 that kind of of the methodology that had formed a whole process. 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Yeah, yeah. I've never done a play before or 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,040 theatres or anything, but like, you know, hearing Alex talk 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,560 about it and just kind of like what our experience was where 38 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:12,800 there's no shot list and we're shooting like 20 minute long 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,120 takes and yeah, you know, people from the theatre probably 20 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,200 minutes. That's that's nothing but like 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,400 over and over and over again. Yeah. 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,080 It's just incredible how it all. Yeah, it was. 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,120 It's unconventional in so many ways. 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,800 And also the thing that I really loved about the process is like, 45 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,400 you know, where possible and to a large degree, like didn't 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,160 really feel like you were actors or going about it in the kind of 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,520 traditional way of like spending time in your trailer and, you 48 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,120 know, kind of spending time apart from the ensemble. 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Like we were all together kind of at all times, like never 50 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,760 really left the environment that we shot in. 51 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,080 No. And it like operated like A and 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,560 it. Informed everything. 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Yeah. It never felt like we were 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,400 acting. It was impossible. 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,280 Like 30 seconds goes by, a minute goes by and cameras are 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,240 going on for like, you know, 15 more minutes. 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,440 Like there's no acting. It's like existing, right? 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:17,360 And like, yeah, I never felt again, you know, the immersion, 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,160 like we, you know, it's pretty amazing. 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,120 It's kind of cool, though, with all of us guys. 61 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,160 You know, our roles were, we were OIC. 62 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,680 Yeah, yeah. Kind of like the chain of 63 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,720 command and like kind of how Ray, you know, created 64 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,800 leadership, yeah. Through the boot camp and how, 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,440 you know, we learned so many things, right, All the quotes 66 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,240 that we would write yeah, every day that you would write every 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,120 day, like really leaning on each other I. 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,920 Caught some, I caught some heat for some of those. 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Some of those were like very corny I. 70 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:47,720 Think. Really. 71 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fire was like, what are we 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,160 graduating? It was like. 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Fall down 6 times, you get exactly Yeah, Will wrote that 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,880 way. Tired as hell Googling 75 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,320 inspirational quotes like first thing in the morning. 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,800 I'll never forget when we got everyone watches and you would 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,280 because you kept the voice and everything like a part of like 78 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,600 the process, like, you know, the instrument, you get the 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,120 instrument warm. I always like speaking in the 80 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,279 American accent, right, which is so incredible and I really 81 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,720 respect that and amongst other things, but it was just I'll 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,920 never forget. All right, gentlemen, it is 83 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:36,080 0542. Have breakfast done by 06/30. 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,360 We're meeting at base camp. Get through the works, hair and 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:48,640 makeup by 0645 and get rigged up and we will leave here at 0700 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:54,880 for the marquee to be there at 07/15 and then and then to 87 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,680 arrive to block at 0730. Yes, Sir. 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Yes, Sir. That is so funny. 89 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,680 But you really LED, man. And, you know, I learned a lot. 90 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,720 Like you LED, you LED us. You LED me. 91 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,400 And then, you know, we all LED each other. 92 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,080 And it, it's funny, you know, when we're kind of like setting 93 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,800 the tone in a way base of all based off of our roles and like 94 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,840 kind of the responsibility that Ray gave us. 95 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:27,720 It's funny. And I remember telling somebody, 96 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,280 yeah, Will would always be the last one to eat, always the last 97 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:35,880 one to eat. He'd be the first one at the 98 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,680 food truck for breakfast. You know, we take turns giving 99 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,240 orders. Sometimes you're like, talk and 100 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,000 you get this and I'm like, fuck, all right, let me get my voice, 101 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,560 'cause like, you know, we have to be direct in this certain 102 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,520 kind of the, the semantics and like the terminology is very 103 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,040 alien. But you would always be the last 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,760 one. You let everyone go eat for you 105 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,960 and you'd be the last one. And I was like, fuck, Will's 106 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,800 doing this and I'm all I see as well. 107 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:06,800 So I'm like, I got to fucking wait. 108 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,880 No, dude, like you're really kind to say that, but man, the 109 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,640 way that you approached your leadership role and assumed your 110 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,760 responsibilities, you did it with real grace. 111 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,120 I learnt a lot by watching you and and how you went about it. 112 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,960 And for those listening and or watching like, you know, we were 113 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:29,800 given, you know, a really great honour and responsibility in our 114 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,200 roles as officers in charge and representing the real life 115 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,000 people that we represent. And same is true of Jo Quinn, 116 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,960 who formed the kind of like Third Point in the leadership 117 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,920 triangle. And I think I can't speak for 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,960 anyone but my nerves around being the officer in charge and 119 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:54,880 having not earned that role, you know, immediately being kind of 120 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,800 by definition in charge of anything felt like wrong. 121 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,840 And what was really cool was to see how all the guys sort of 122 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:07,880 cast aside ego and just committed wholeheartedly to the 123 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,880 sort of hierarchy and the structure of things and the 124 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,000 protocol. And, you know, I think like 125 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,040 trust and certainly like genuine love and affection kind of 126 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:24,360 developed over the like natural course of the, the boot camp 127 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,440 and, and the shooting process. And that was really, really cool 128 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,040 to see. And as you said, it just ended 129 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,760 up informing everything that we did going forward. 130 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,840 And I'm, I'm so glad we went about it that way. 131 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:42,080 I was going to take it back and ask you how warfare like first, 132 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,280 you know, kind of like landed on your desk, so to speak, and and 133 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,960 what your initial thoughts were, because obviously you have a 134 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,120 like deep personal connection to the story as well, right? 135 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,600 Well, yeah, I, you know, I, as you know, for anyone listening, 136 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,160 my dad was in the Army for 24 years, you know that. 137 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,440 And I think the beautiful thing that we get to do with this 138 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,520 medium being actors, is, you know, there is reasons for doing 139 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,280 a job. And sometimes I would like to 140 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,960 have most of those reasons for every job be like some sort of 141 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,120 personal reason for me. And it was to get closer to my 142 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,240 dad, to understand my dad. Better man. 143 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Right, so in order to get the process of understanding my dad 144 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:35,120 better also taught me in process I'm an actor did not experience, 145 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:40,760 you know, anything that he experienced, but just more so in 146 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:48,640 a way understanding the maybe again, we have no idea what it's 147 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,800 like we're just actors, but it just brought me closer to my dad 148 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,160 and. Like understanding him from a. 149 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Psychological perspective, maybe just it's always difficult for 150 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,640 the veteran community and like we've talked about this, like 151 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,640 difficult for the veteran community to speak about certain 152 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,160 things that have happened. It's undescribable, right. 153 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:15,440 So to be able to for, you know, as the reason, you know, part of 154 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,880 Ray doing this for Elliot so that he can see it instead of 155 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,760 just reading transcripts of like a recollection of like, you 156 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,520 know, 10 different guys or 15 different guys from the 157 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,000 operation, just, you know, he can actually see it and 158 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,360 experience it. And yeah, I, I think, you know, 159 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,640 growing up, like those four years my dad was away, you know, 160 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,280 deployed, I'm just still a kid growing up. 161 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,720 I don't know what's happening or the idea. 162 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Not that I know what's happening, but I think doing 163 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,600 this, this whole film with all of you guys and Alex and Ray 164 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,200 just like brought me closer to maybe not the experience but the 165 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,720 idea. Like maybe you know what I mean? 166 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,240 Yeah, and how? How can you understand? 167 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,320 Yeah, and like just the, the, the from like military tactics 168 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:09,080 protocol to the brotherhood to the camaraderie to humility. 169 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,680 I just learned so many different things throughout the process 170 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:14,280 and just made me help me understand my dad better. 171 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,240 But. That's awesome. 172 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,480 Yeah, I remember meeting with Alex and Ray. 173 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,680 We got dinner. If I knew Alex and Ray better 174 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:22,800 then I would have not went to the place we went to dinner at. 175 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Why? What was it? 176 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,960 I don't know. It was like someplace like in 177 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,160 Beverly Hills, someone. I was like, did you guys bake 178 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,640 this place? They're like, no, did you bake 179 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,840 this place? I was like, no. 180 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,360 You like that'd be cool with like a slice of pizza and a 181 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,680 beer. Yeah, no, it was like steak was 182 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,600 like 100 bucks. I was like, what? 183 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,680 What is this? I couldn't pronounce like half 184 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:46,800 the thing, you know, the menu. But we met and like, it's so 185 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,040 funny. I remember, you know, Ray shared 186 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,880 the story, you know, with me. And then they kind of like, told 187 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,080 me their vision and talked about the intensity of this project. 188 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,800 And I was just like, I'm in, I'm already in. 189 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,440 You know, Alex, that's like, I'm not going to do that. 190 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,160 I'm not going to do it. But he goes, Charles, piece of 191 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,520 advice, never say yes to anything before you read it. 192 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,240 You could imagine it and say Oh my. 193 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,120 God, yeah. And I was like, no, I know, but 194 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,320 I know I'm going to do it. I just felt it. 195 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,960 Just, you know. You have to like. 196 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,000 I just conviction, yeah, yeah, I just knew. 197 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,040 And next thing I know, yeah, I'm with you guys. 198 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Was the process because you met with Alex and? 199 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,680 Yeah, I met with Alex like actually separately from Ray 200 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:37,520 initially. And it's funny, man. 201 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:43,080 Like on paper, you know, it was like a yes, you know, it was 202 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,160 like one of those things where they were like Alex Garland's 203 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,880 next, a 24 movie. I was like, well, yeah, 204 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,120 obviously I'm going to want to do that. 205 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,760 And then to be honest, when he told me there was a war film 206 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,440 like, and I've told you this, but like my heart sunk a little 207 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,320 bit. The reason being, and I should 208 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,240 have known better because it's Alex Garland NSA 24 like I 209 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,640 should have known better, but my heart's not because I thought 210 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,240 there were so many films that depict war, that run the risk or 211 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,680 actively kind of like glorify it or romanticize it. 212 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,640 And like, we don't need another film that does that. 213 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,920 And one of the things that Alex said to me very early on that I 214 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,560 latched onto was this idea that he wanted to challenge the 215 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:31,000 Hollywood grammar in how war films are sort of made and, and, 216 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,800 and, and tell a story without Hollywood grammar. 217 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,680 That is to say, remove the fictionalisation, not try and 218 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,080 glorify it. Like, create something that is a 219 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,160 very literal recreation of the events so that you can see the 220 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,280 kind of horrifying, like consequences of war and how that 221 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,880 impacts everyone. And when he said that, I really 222 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,040 let in and I was really excited. And I kind of returned to that 223 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:06,240 initial state of like, excitement and bizarre. 224 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,080 Like having Alex Garland, a film maker I've admired for so long, 225 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,200 literally, quite literally, like on my bucket list of directors I 226 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,960 want to work with. And then like, offering me the 227 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,800 role. I was like, this is nuts. 228 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,280 Like, it was all about pinch me, pinch me moments. 229 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,960 Like that was one of them. And it was just, it was a real 230 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,040 honour and a privilege to like be part of something that really 231 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,520 like broke with convention and was so different to anything 232 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,120 that I think certainly I've ever done or ever really has been 233 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,680 done. You know, that's that's a a 234 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:39,440 really rare opportunity for anyone. 235 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,120 Like it's like a once in a lifetime opportunity. 236 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,600 So that was really cool. And one thing I did kind of know 237 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,240 going into it, which I knew would be really enjoyable, is 238 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,960 that as a group of guys, we were going to get incredibly close. 239 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,400 And me and you started on the journey kind of earliest because 240 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:04,560 we met in, yeah, San Diego meeting the two gentlemen that 241 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:08,280 we represent and their identities are protected for 242 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,720 obvious reasons. And kind of we embarked on the 243 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,640 journey like early, early on and it was funny like meeting you 244 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,040 because, you know, at that point we didn't know each other at 245 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,320 all. We've been in like the same room 246 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,120 once. We didn't know each other at 247 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,560 all. But I knew that by way of this 248 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,000 process of this, you know, four week boot camp and, you know, 249 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,800 five week shoot or whatever it was like we were going to end up 250 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,600 incredibly close like. In love. 251 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,240 And and in love, in love as it happens. 252 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,840 And that's such a that's such a cool thing. 253 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,080 That's such a beautiful aspect of this process as well that 254 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,240 like as a group of guys, we've all got so close and and met 255 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,960 some amazing personalities through the. 256 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Process, you know, what's interesting is someone that was 257 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,600 asking me about this process, right, Like you guys got so 258 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:08,000 close, like you guys got tattoos, you guys stayed like, 259 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,280 you know you guys, yeah. And and like you guys got 260 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,560 tattoos, but I think it is. And I was just basically the way 261 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,560 the person was asking these questions is you did all these 262 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,520 things in order to connect. And I was like, we did not get 263 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,920 the tattoo to connect. We did not eat to connect. 264 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,440 Like we just connected. And we wanted all. 265 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Those things and we wanted all those things. 266 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:35,040 And it was, yeah. It was just like interesting 267 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:41,200 because, you know, I do not think I will ever experience 268 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,800 what we experience, like do this process. 269 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,680 I I it's hard to imagine. Yeah, Yeah. 270 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,120 To ever experience something like that. 271 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,240 As far as just like, I mean, we talk, we all talk everyday, you 272 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,160 know, love each other. Yeah. 273 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,800 And, and it's crazy too, you know, I don't think people 274 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:06,280 understand the extent where, you know, when Elliot came to the 275 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Penley Manor and Lane. Train, yeah. 276 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,200 Train. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 277 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,320 People don't know. I mean, I don't know if we talk 278 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,600 about it, but you know. Elliot coming to visit? 279 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,320 Yeah. Yeah, coming to visit and just 280 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:25,840 like, you know, it's like it we're all like kind of one body 281 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,800 move together. If Ray needed take take care of 282 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,720 somebody, we're all taking care of that person. 283 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,680 Yeah, yeah. If one person needs something we 284 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,720 all need today, and we all find out how to guide it. 285 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,840 It was cool seeing also like just the individual growth in 286 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,160 all of the guys through the process. 287 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,080 Like it made better people out of everyone who went through 288 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,760 that training. Like in terms of being 289 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,040 accountable, being kind of like teammate before you are an 290 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,400 individual. It made everyone I think like 291 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,360 more selfless. We could tell every we could we, 292 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,040 we, you could probably probably all of us can give each other, 293 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,119 all thirteen of us, each other's meal request. 294 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,359 Had mail order. He had mail order because, you 295 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,720 know, there's always one person like taking the reins and just 296 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,839 being like, this is what we're going to yeah, guys, we're going 297 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:17,599 to eat at in this room at this time. 298 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:18,960 Like what do you want? Send your orders? 299 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,920 And then that person, most of the time you or whoever fan 300 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,240 whatever would go to the restaurant and get the order so 301 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,760 we could. Shout out to the to the staff in 302 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,920 a hotel who just like were incredibly accommodating of. 303 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,560 Right. 13 very hungry hungry boys every day. 304 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,160 I mean like Noah ate 3 burger patties every night which was 305 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,400 pretty extraordinary to watch without deviation. 306 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,120 I don't think he ever changed his order. 307 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,880 It's kind of wild to watch that. Yeah, those fries. 308 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,520 Those fries are. That's good fries good fries and 309 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,240 treat yeah. And I think like so much of what 310 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,400 you see on screen is a direct result of of the process right. 311 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,600 And, and I was really grateful that like Alex and Ray and 312 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,000 production kind of like facilitated that for us. 313 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,040 And it made it, it made it really special. 314 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,480 It made everything like feel a bit more authentic. 315 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:17,000 And I think like broadly what that means is that the film is 316 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,760 more authentic, It is more realistic. 317 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,240 And my hope is it's received in the spirit in which we made it, 318 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,600 which was to just make something that reflects like the absolute 319 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:32,360 reality of that situation. So that whatever your political 320 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:36,720 stance or whatever your perspective is on war, it's like 321 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,840 at least there's something that you can view that actually 322 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,680 represents what that, you know, experience can be and where 323 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:51,000 consequences can look like, as opposed to us rooting it in 324 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,000 something that maybe tries to sort of make it look cool or 325 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,760 entertaining. Like Ray said it himself, It's 326 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,920 like if you watch this film and you think like that looks like a 327 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,200 good time and you want to like sign up for it, It's like 328 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,240 there's probably something wrong with you. 329 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,160 It's like political perspective. Do you know what I mean? 330 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,000 This is just one of many stories. 331 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:12,320 He's like, but understand that this can be, you know, the 332 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,840 consequences of what it is to serve and go to war. 333 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,680 And he's not saying don't, but he's saying be prepared to 334 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,040 reckon with the consequences. The consequences, yeah. 335 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Because this isn't just some idea, this is a telling. 336 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,600 Exactly. The most authentic and truest 337 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,920 form. On a on a on a totally different 338 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,440 note, but keeping it 824, you're working on beef at the moment. 339 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Yes, I, I know you can't say like all too much, but how fun 340 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,000 is it for you to go from something like warfare and then, 341 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,400 you know, do something on the TV side that is so different And 342 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,560 from a acting perspective, I imagine like comes with a whole 343 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,840 host a lot of sort of challenges and a different process as well. 344 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,040 Right, right, right. It's happy to be working, 345 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:07,680 grateful to be working. Yeah, it's definitely lighter in 346 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,160 ways. And it's been so much fun. 347 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,880 You know, I can't say too much, but I mean, it's been so much. 348 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,120 I mean, everyone's great from, you know, Sunny's brilliant and, 349 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,880 you know. He's directing, Jake Schreyer's 350 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,840 directing and then just having like Kaylee so awesome. 351 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,960 It's kind of like we're all like connected because she worked 352 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,280 with Alex on Civil War and like, you know, we're working on beef 353 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,240 and she plays my fiance and we're really close. 354 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,200 And so that's just, you know, I kind of feel like she would 355 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,800 have, she would have been great if if she was in warfare. 356 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,040 With us. Oh, awesome. 357 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,840 Yeah. You know she would have. 358 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,760 Bought into the process. Bought into the process like a 359 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,800 price like, you know, she has my bag, I have her bag and Kerry 360 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:53,960 and Oscar. Incredible. 361 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,200 Awesome. It's been really very different. 362 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,160 Yeah, it's I have been quite. I've been very fortunate to 363 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,040 experience kind of a different journey, a different process, 364 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,000 which is each thing, you know, from, you know, all the things 365 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,800 I've done and like, you know, before our film, you know, May 366 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,400 December and then say all different kinds of processes. 367 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,520 Yeah, yeah. Where, you know, with all, you 368 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,360 know, visionaries and yeah, man tours. 369 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:26,520 And it's like, it's cool. It's yeah, it's very different. 370 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,320 I think it's going to be fun. It's kind of a cool. 371 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,000 Thing right? Like no one job is the same and 372 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,360 and so the processes are all different and the experiences. 373 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:36,280 Are all And then TV is always bouncing back like we'll bounce 374 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,280 to the end and then like. Is that trippy? 375 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,160 How do you feel like, because we obviously shot warfare in like 376 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,920 continuously. Yeah. 377 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,720 And you that's that's a treat, right? 378 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,160 That's amazing. Alex, I think always tries to do 379 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,840 that. I think like, I don't know if 380 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,320 Ray is going to do that going forward, but how do you find the 381 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,080 challenge of shooting out of continuity? 382 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,520 Yeah, it's kind of confusing sometimes. 383 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,800 I struggle, man. Yeah. 384 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 You got to kind of remind yourself of like, what part of 385 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,360 this journey is this role in? Like, you know, this guy in like 386 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,720 where, where is he? And then, but it's always kind 387 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,520 of like, but then also it's kind of good. 388 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,840 Keeps you on your toes a bit. Keeps you on your toes and 389 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,560 you're like, oh, because I've experienced the end. 390 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,000 Now I know how. Maybe there's a clearer picture 391 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,520 of how I'm going to start the beginning, or maybe. 392 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,600 I'm just being interesting, no? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 'cause 393 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,560 I'm like, oh, this is where I've ended. 394 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,440 Yeah, this is the middle. Yeah. 395 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Oh, now this can be the beginning. 396 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,080 But like they're, you know. There's also something about 397 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,400 like, you know, that like, expression, like, truth is 398 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,680 stranger than fiction. And like, I think about this 399 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,600 often with acting where it's like, like, often I feel out of 400 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,720 continuity in my own life. I feel like Wednesday does not 401 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,680 feel like Wednesday. Do you know what I mean? 402 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,640 And so like, actually in a way, sometimes I feel like I'm living 403 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,200 an experience that feels like I'm out of continuity and, and 404 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,200 so like to not fight that, you know, on set or whatever and 405 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,680 actually like lean into it sometimes. 100%, it's very 406 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,040 human. Yeah, it's very human. 407 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,640 Like it's more real. So sometimes I do, I do kind of 408 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,080 feel that way about it. Same time, I haven't done a lot 409 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,160 of TV, but I can imagine like if you're doing episode 10 in the 410 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,480 morning and then in the afternoon you're going back to, 411 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,680 you know, an episode 5 prior to that or whatever it must have. 412 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,480 I guess, I guess you saying that it's like, yeah, it's, I guess 413 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,080 I've learned or I tried to surrender to the process and 414 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,720 everything. There's a lot of surrender to 415 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,520 the process of like you said, it's not like the beginning of 416 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,880 this guy, he's happy and then the middle is he's sad and like 417 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,760 the end he's angry. It's like, no, that's not real. 418 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,040 Life fluctuates like that. So it's yeah, there's a lot of 419 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:56,000 surrender through this process and every process. 420 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:01,680 But yeah, TV is, is great. It's great. 421 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,080 I'm so. Excited. 422 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,720 I'm so. And now, speaking about you, 423 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,200 you've been doing this for a long time. 424 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,280 I guess so. I remember at well, First off, 425 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,440 you already told it. I've already told you this. 426 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,680 I was like nervous and excited to work with you, dude. 427 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,520 I don't know. If I was just like, oh man, 428 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,160 that's full bolter. Fuck it. 429 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,040 Out. You know this shit? 430 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,640 Didn't last long that the. Whole device, yeah. 431 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:35,880 Like, and did you see my movie? I don't know, but you know, it's 432 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,960 amazing 'cause you know, I've followed you. 433 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:46,120 Literally the first thing I saw you in was at the Millers. 434 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,720 OK, Yeah. And just to see how you've just 435 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,520 like progress to, you know, doing Kathryn Bigelow's movie. 436 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,560 And then just, and then you know, you have two movies coming 437 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,520 out pretty you have Death of a Unicorn. 438 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,280 Yeah, what was that? Before, yeah, how how was? 439 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,280 How was that? Dude, it's really fun. 440 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,120 Like I've been nervous on the press because we all got on 441 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,720 really well as a cast and we had so much fun. 442 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,120 But I've been very conscious and I've said this to like my death 443 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,440 of a Unicorn classmates. I'm like, this is the way I put 444 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,880 it, like Death of a Unicorn for just a pure like fun and like 445 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,240 silly comedy perspective. It's like the best experience 446 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,040 I've ever had, right? But like my experience on 447 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,560 warfare with all you guys was the most transformative, 448 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,360 meaningful experience I've ever had with the car. 449 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,680 So I never wanted to get that twisted. 450 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,280 And I'm like saying how much fun I had on that for you to record. 451 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,800 I like never wanted any of our guys to be like, hold on a 452 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,000 minute, did you not have fun on our thing? 453 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,040 I thought we were I thought we were like a family, you know, 454 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,680 but death of Unicorn was was was such a laugh, man. 455 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,200 And like, I did it. Wait, I'm trying to think. 456 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Yeah, so I did it before warfare. 457 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,360 They just happened to be coming out kind of around the same 458 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,640 time. But you know, like, like you 459 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,800 said, it's so fun to do something different. 460 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,640 And, you know, that comes with a host of other challenges and, 461 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,400 you know, kind of immerses you into like a different process. 462 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,440 And yeah, bro, like, like, like you said, when you get to work 463 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,960 with people you really admire, like Paul Rudd, you know, is 464 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,280 such a blast to work with. He's so fun. 465 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,640 He's all about play and like, enjoying yourself. 466 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,120 You know, Jenna's amazing. Been a fan of Jenna for a while. 467 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:30,600 I've never seen her not be great. 468 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,200 And, you know, I grew up watching, you know, Richard E 469 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,920 Grant. And it's just like so many like, 470 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,520 incredible people in it telly. And he was like my North Star on 471 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:45,000 that film, like my like my kind of like onset mum as well as 472 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,240 like kind of bestie. So we just, we just had a blast. 473 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,240 It was really a really, really fun time. 474 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,520 But as far as like transformative kind of 475 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,280 personality shaping experiences, nothing, nothing comes close to 476 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,720 warfare. And I don't think I'm, I don't 477 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,080 think I'm insulting them by saying. 478 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,480 No. Right. 479 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,320 Right, right, right. Also I'm like, you know, there's 480 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,200 like 12 lads I have to answer to if I, if I say anything about, 481 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,640 about warfare. Very, very, very prospect. 482 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Starting with me. Except starting with me right 483 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,320 now. What did you say? 484 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,200 That exactly. You've done so many different 485 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,080 kinds of so many different genres and like, I mean, I 486 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,440 again, for the sake of it not being the other films that I've 487 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,040 seen here, not being 824, so I'm not going to even mention that. 488 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,320 But like if anyone's followed to work, they can see just like 489 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,520 you're just shape shifting so much. 490 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,800 And So what do you, what's like your process, like your thought 491 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,840 process when it comes to like choosing the next thing? 492 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,680 Are you kind of like, I need to relax on this? 493 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,800 Or you know, is it the director? Is it the story? 494 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,960 Is it the money? I know. 495 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,360 Yeah, I know. Listen, I, I, I, I, I, I 496 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,280 appreciate you like, you know, paying me that compliment about 497 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,120 doing lots of different things because that's what you do, man. 498 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,200 And like, you know, you know how much I love your work and also 499 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,760 how much I respect kind of your process and how you go about it. 500 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:11,760 But man, I've been really like, you make a really good point. 501 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,880 Like the first thing is that you're really grateful to be 502 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,720 working right as an actor. Like you just have to remind 503 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,000 yourself of that first and foremost. 504 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440 I've had so much good luck and fortune come my way. 505 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,560 And the reality is, is like for the vast majority of people, 506 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,040 like, you know, a certain amount of like good luck has to, has to 507 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,800 break your way. And I'm very aware of that. 508 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000 I'm very aware of the fact that like some of the best actors are 509 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,720 walking around working other jobs outside of acting. 510 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,640 So, so there's that firstly. And then I think the thing that 511 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,680 I'm sort of attached to more and more is like the social 512 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,480 application of, of the work and how it's going to like change 513 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,720 people's perspective, like stimulate discussion. 514 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,240 Like, I'm really hoping like warfare contributes to the 515 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,360 conversation around for sure in the concepts of like conflict 516 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,760 and whatnot in a, in a way that hasn't necessarily been 517 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,920 discussed before, you know, And then also like with something 518 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,160 like that for the Unicorn, like I just, I hope it offers people 519 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,560 a bit of like a laugh and a moment of escapism from from, 520 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,720 you know, what is a difficult moment in many respects. 521 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,880 Yeah, sorry. To cut you off, it's going to be 522 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,160 it's going to be just insane watching because I've only seen 523 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,240 the trailer of just the Unicorn. I want to see it. 524 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,760 But seeing you in that compared to what we did and what we shot, 525 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,600 just a complete but damn just. I'm going to be insane, insane. 526 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,400 And you know, I don't know if you remember this. 527 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,040 I remember. I remember when you remember how 528 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Alex and Ray would give us 20 minutes to rehearse the scenes. 529 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,720 Yeah. And then like in the. 530 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,160 Black and then come back. Within the blue dividers, I 531 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,600 remember everyone was talking about when you guys were 532 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,440 rehearsing the first part. Gandolfini told me this story 533 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,720 and I loved it. As about you is because we were 534 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,040 so in it. We're in the thick of it. 535 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,040 And we would get in like, you know, it was a huge 536 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,000 responsibility. It was very emotional, the whole 537 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,840 process. And like you being OIC, you had 538 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440 a kind of like, you know, the role you had to take charge of a 539 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,840 lot of different things. And I just remember everyone 540 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:18,960 just like loving and being in awe of seeing your human 541 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:26,000 frustration come out when you like, 'cause you care so much. 542 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,680 It's amazing to see someone care so much and just get so 543 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,040 frustrated and go internally, 'cause you're like, oh, I get 544 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,080 that guy. That's me. 545 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,640 But Gandolfini. Who's the world's best? 546 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Storyteller, by the way, the best storyteller. 547 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,840 He should tell this story 'cause it's so beautiful and it's 548 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,200 probably a lot more eloquent than I. 549 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,240 No, no, I just lean. Twice if I should stop. 550 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,280 He would not at all. But do you know Oblinky? 551 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,840 But he just. Regale us every night with 552 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,160 amazing stories. Yeah, you. 553 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:58,280 Like through the script and just fuck through it. 554 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,400 Like, it was just so safe that we could just, yeah, go through 555 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,400 that and be upset and frustrated and, like, try to figure it out 556 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,800 because we had a responsibility not just as actors, but like, to 557 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,400 Ray, to Elliot, to Alex, to all the servicemen, the pressure of 558 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,680 that, like. Yeah, but that was just like, 559 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,560 amazing. To see, you know, you, you know, 560 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,080 oh, it's, it's interesting. I loved. 561 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,320 It, it's so funny because I, I just had a little tantrum 562 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,640 because like I, I, I recognize that you're like hard on 563 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,880 yourself too and. It's a challenge, isn't it? 564 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560 Like holding yourself to a standard that you want to meet, 565 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,560 but also not being so hard on yourself that you become like a 566 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,680 saboteur or like, you know what I mean? 567 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,040 Like, give yourself a steeper climb than you need to make. 568 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,440 Like that's that's a. That's a challenge I. 569 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Feel like we should maybe? Talk a little bit about the just 570 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,160 on warfare, like, well, obviously we only represent a 571 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,880 very small fraction of the car. And like, it feels wrong not to 572 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,680 like talk about some of the guys on this and like, because the 573 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,600 experience being as special as it was is predicated on how 574 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,640 special they are as as humans. And it's really funny, like, you 575 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,560 know, the first time we all hung out, we're like in this like tea 576 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,400 room Conservatory sort of thing at the back of this hotel. 577 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,760 Peacocks running. Around Peacocks running around 578 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,920 on. Everywhere and you know, you 579 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,600 don't really know how like 13 guys are going to like get on 580 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,480 with one another. And also shout out to Haider and 581 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Nathan as well, who played the Rocky scouts, who such great 582 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,560 actors, such lovely guys and were a major part of the process 583 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,960 as well. You don't know how everyone's 584 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,800 going to like gel and get on. And obviously we've spoken about 585 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,440 how the formalities, the protocol, the sort of chain of 586 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080 command informed things, but like. 587 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,600 As serious as it. Was and as intense as it was 588 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,080 like we had so many laughs too like. 589 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,120 It was so fun. Man, yeah, I was. 590 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,560 I know everyone was really intimidated to meet me when I 591 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,760 showed up. Really. 592 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,840 You fact. I was like, I was all right. 593 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,800 I was like. What are you telling me? 594 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,760 I was really scared. I want to roll out a red carpet. 595 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,080 Fucking gym it was. It was. 596 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Really, it was really interesting watching. 597 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,920 All those different, sort of. Personalities kind of come into 598 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,400 contact with each other and it's and nobody. 599 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,280 Like I think that's like the beautiful thing. 600 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Like with humility, I feel like you can whatever personality you 601 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,240 have, if you just have humility and like love is behind that 602 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,640 humility, I think. Yeah, you can find love to like 603 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,400 for anyone. Yeah. 604 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,600 You. Know like we all. 605 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,160 Were there like, we weren't here to like add this to our resume 606 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,920 or this? No, we weren't. 607 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,760 Here. For the paycheck, yeah, it was 608 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,480 such. It was such a. 609 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,040 Fun group all from like different parts of the world and 610 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,520 and and different experiences often today and remember one 611 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,600 day. They gave us night vision 612 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,840 goggles to take home. Yes, Which? 613 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,360 Was an insane decision to give our group night vision goggles 614 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,440 to take home because naturally we just ran around the hotel 615 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,800 with the night vision and we sing happy. 616 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,639 Birthday to Noah, Noah said to Neo's birthday. 617 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,199 Remember we were outside wearing our goggles and we were like, 618 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,080 how the fuck this is horse? We're like blinding ourselves so 619 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,480 much. Oh my God, you sing him. 620 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,920 Happy birthday. You remember that? 621 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,600 I do remember that. We would like after every day 622 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,760 we'd all eat together. We'd probably all work out 623 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,239 together, we'd smoke cigarettes and drink diet Cokes on the on 624 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,880 in the garden together, like, and that was pretty much how 625 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,560 every single day went. And it was really interesting as 626 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,640 well how you know, for the sake of like balance in the social 627 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,320 experience, we'd, we'd go from these really, really intense 628 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,440 conversations and naturally like really, really intense kind of 629 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,160 serious work straight to like the silliest, most ridiculous, 630 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,920 like joking around you can imagine. 631 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:26,000 It was really fun to be able to do both at once. 632 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040 We played Mafia. That was fun. 633 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:32,400 We played a lot of games on. Mafia, you were like the games 634 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,160 master right? You would like run that? 635 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,600 Mafia was fun, I'll never forget. 636 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,480 Do you remember when you, me and Joe were having a conversation 637 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,240 and just like, you know, leadership, we're having a 638 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:49,960 conversation and Kit was walking towards us and like just like so 639 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,280 happy and jolly. And I just shook my hand on Kit 640 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,080 and I looked and I was like, Nah, not right now. 641 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,880 I don't even remember that I. Was like you, he was. 642 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,040 So. And we're like, no, this is a 643 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,440 serious moment. We're not joking around. 644 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,040 He's like, no, really, right He. Was so many bits but he. 645 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,760 Had to constantly be on your toes. 646 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,160 There was also a a habit of and the armourers ended up like 647 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,800 stepping in. There was also a habit of like 648 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,000 stealing guys handguns off them. He. 649 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960 Constantly had to be. I got zip tied to a chair at one 650 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,640 point without me knowing I fell asleep. 651 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,920 I fell asleep. Oh, when guys fell asleep, 652 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,920 people would get photographs taken of them or they'd get like 653 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,320 messed with in some way. Defaro DPS. 654 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,720 Got so many defaro when someone. Stacked like 10. 655 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:31,640 Books on his head. Yes, we stacked as. 656 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,280 Like, several different household items on his head when 657 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,080 he was asleep. Michael Gandolfini is the 658 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,320 greatest storyteller and one of the funniest human beings. 659 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,640 He's the best of all time. Tji think could TJ and Evan 660 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,000 could actually both legitimately be team guys? 661 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,080 Yeah. And kind of like, ramp point on 662 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,200 weapons handling. Yeah. 663 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,080 Yeah, they're great, Ray. Wasn't directly. 664 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,720 Involved, which was amazing yeah, Cosmos so. 665 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:58,720 Funny Cosmos the biggest sweetheart being heart of our 666 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,800 group. Amazing to see how the process 667 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,400 sort of took hold of him as well. 668 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,280 And he's like, surrendered to the idea of like being a, being 669 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,320 a sort of a team guy, you know, and. 670 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,120 Because I think he'll admit. Himself, he's like, kind of like 671 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,440 started off lone wolf and then just became like the beating 672 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,880 heart of our group. Yeah, yeah. 673 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,680 Yeah. Noah wore the same outfit every 674 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,200 day for two. Months for a man as. 675 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,160 Handsome and as fashionable as I know him to be. 676 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,600 It's hilarious that he just rocked like basketball shorts 677 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080 and and the same black hoodie and the same white T-shirt with 678 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,480 holes in it and slides for two months straight. 679 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,080 I love him for it and then Finn. Finn and you and Finn's. 680 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,920 Relationship on screen is obviously like that. 681 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,520 You guys were so great together. Finn's so sweet. 682 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,360 He's. So great, he's awesome. 683 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,680 Aiden, another, a fellow Brit, Finn's from Ireland, a fellow 684 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,400 Brit and did such a awesome job as the other Marine with 685 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,200 Michael. He's so good in the movie and 686 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,560 had the comms thing down in an amazing way watching him. 687 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,320 Wild Eagle base. Wild Eagle 2 foot like, yeah, 688 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,120 yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty amazing. 689 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,760 Real Joe Quinn. Well, we touched on Joey 690 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,920 earlier, but what, what an actor, man, what a guy. 691 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,680 Always spoke really well, I thought, like when we'd huddle 692 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,400 up. Hyde is a prankster. 693 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,880 Still pranking us on the WhatsApp group and is amazing. 694 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,880 Nathan gave one of the best performances I've ever seen when 695 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,240 we did a Do you remember the exercise we did the training 696 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,880 exercise. We did one of our like simulated 697 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,360 missions. Nathan played a wounded soldier 698 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:46,320 and like it was like an Oscar goes to moment during this like 699 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,080 mission simulation as part of training to the point where I 700 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,200 was like, that was fucking dude. You've got to tone it down 701 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,480 because we. Can't hear each other. 702 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,320 Your screaming is so realistic. Did someone tell? 703 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,960 Him to do that I don't. Know remember when Cosmo we. 704 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:04,800 Were like Cosmo, where's hider he goes I don't know I just. 705 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,520 I left him. I left him. 706 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,680 I saw. Him and I just left him. 707 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,640 That was insane. That was insane. 708 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:19,680 Also Kit, who, by the way, babyface, babyface was his 709 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,120 nickname, who like looks physically identical to Tommy. 710 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,080 Like like his physicality was like a perfect match. 711 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,920 And also for me, Kit in this film did such an incredible job. 712 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,240 And he's also a reminder of the fact that, like in a role where 713 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:42,080 you don't necessarily have like a ton of dialogue, like, you 714 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,600 know, he's so impactful, so. Impactful. 715 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,240 He's so real in. Every moment he's so wise. 716 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,680 I can't believe he's. 20 I know it's not he. 717 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,920 Just turned 21 and. He's just turned 21, isn't he? 718 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400 Yeah, and he's like more mature than all of us. 719 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,160 I think we covered all of the guys, I think. 720 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,040 I think so. We said the best for last. 721 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,200 We didn't leave anyone out. Yeah. 722 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,720 Babyface, Babyface. God, everyone's so incredible. 723 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,360 Yeah, I'm super. Proud of the group.