1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Hey and welcome back to the A 24 podcast. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,920 For today's episode, we reunited our favorite on screen 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,079 missionaries, Sophie Thatcher and Chloe E to talk Mormon lore, 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,440 being secret film Bros and the reception to their new breakout 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,160 hit, Heretic. We hope you enjoy the 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,320 conversation and be sure to catch Heretic now playing in 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,960 theaters nationwide. This is Sophie Thatcher and this 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,960 is. Chloe East and today we're 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,200 talking on the A 24 podcast. How many times have you seen the 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,160 movie? 6 * 6 Yeah, twice as much as me. 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Really 3/3? I want to watch with like a big 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,680 group of friends. I went with my Mormon friends, 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,080 so I didn't. Was that yesterday or was that 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,840 the the Vista? That was no, I went to the 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Vista. Wasn't Christopher Nolan there? 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Yeah, I didn't see him, but apparently he was there. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,760 It's absurd. That's when I was like, I saw 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,720 back in woods, yeah, they're Instagram post. 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,080 And I was like, oh, this is real. 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Inject Peopleer. Jack Black. 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,000 When I think of Jack Black, he sings this like Elliot Smith 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,480 song in an interview. And the funniest thing, really, 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,000 I love him. Yeah, I know. 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,880 School of Rock was like one of my favorite. 25 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:16,080 Movies. Oh yeah, me too. 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,080 Yeah, you saw it with your Mormon friends there. 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,880 I saw that down in in San Clemente like it was. 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,920 So should we say this for the podcast? 29 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:28,640 I saw it down in San Clemente with all my Mormon friends and 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,760 not all of them, a lot of them. And it was such a Mormon 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,200 screening that there was a baby. Like a 5 month old baby. 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,320 Like baby baby. Too heretic. 33 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,880 So you do what you got to do. You got to get out of the house. 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,600 It's like, listen when you're on housewife duties but you got to 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,000 see heretic. What did you think of the two 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,040 Whitneys doing? Oh, that was and. 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,920 What has the response been like from your Mormon friends? 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,720 Everyone has loved it. I can't even wrap my brain 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,200 around, like, how this happened. Not that I didn't have high 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,120 expectations for the movie, but it seems like it feels real. 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,160 Maybe everyone's in line, but like, everyone who's seen it. 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,600 Yeah, Yeah. I'm like Steven Spielberg, 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,280 actually like it. But it seems like everyone who 44 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,200 has seen it has sent me texts saying, like 100 out of 10, 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,320 Like, this was. I know there were people saying 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,360 this is the best movie I've ever seen. 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,120 I'm like, this goes up hard. But it is like really, really it 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,400 is good. Like I know it exceeded my 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,640 expectations. I know. 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,600 And it keeps getting, I mean, but it keeps getting better each 51 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,960 time I watch it. Yeah. 52 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,920 And I do feel like the last time that I watched it because we 53 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:37,560 didn't have AQ and a after and I wasn't like, oh, I'm going to 54 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,000 fuck up. Like, oh, what am I going to 55 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,520 say? Yada. 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,400 Yada. Yeah, yeah. 57 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,000 I was able to, like, fully watch it and I finally was like, oh, 58 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,720 this, like the ending's heartbreaking. 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Your monologue killed me. I look over to my mom and my 60 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,560 sister were both sobbing. Yeah, a lot of people were 61 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,720 crying at the. End. 62 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,320 And I wasn't, I didn't think it was that emotional of a movie, 63 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,200 but I felt at that time because I was like finally able to be 64 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,560 present. Yeah, I mean even shooting it 65 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,040 too. Like I thought I would hit a 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,400 wall of cries. And then when we got to that, 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,080 that part, I had like a whole nother wave of like emotions 68 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,920 just pouring out. I was so tired. 69 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:20,040 And then I like I realized of all the times I've read the 70 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,600 script, I never read it with the kind of maybe like the point of 71 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,000 view that you had when when you had the cry viewing, it's like 72 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,560 it meant something different than I always thought. 73 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,480 And so then I'm like. Be emotional now. 74 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,560 Oh. My God, like why am I crying? 75 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,080 And now and then Scott and Brian were like, OK, wait, it's like 76 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,920 not you're like, OK, you don't really need a Tony. 77 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,840 I'm like wait, but now I'm like actually crying. 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,760 Action. I think it is emotional. 79 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,160 I think it's like very. I feel like the the movie 80 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:55,280 confirms whatever you go in believing in a very kind of 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,240 comforting way. I feel like it's different each 82 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,400 watch, and it depends on who you're watching it with in the 83 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,680 discussion after. Yeah, because if you're, I don't 84 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,080 know, and I watched it with Austin, we felt kind of bleak. 85 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,840 The first time, yeah. Then I watch it with my mom, and 86 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,160 my mom was like, yeah, just like sobbing and like, all emotional 87 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,520 and hopeful. Yeah. 88 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,440 So I think it just like, depends on who you watch it with, I 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 guess, or just your mindset before going into it. 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,560 Yeah. Which is so strange. 91 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,280 We know what's interesting is when because every time so seen 92 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:27,600 it six times, the five times Are you going to? 93 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,440 You're probably going to see it more. 94 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,040 Because it's probably Will I Probably. 95 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Will who do you need to see it with? 96 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,840 Like who's on your list? I have a couple more friends in 97 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:40,720 San Clemente I want to see it with and then just some like 98 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,600 hometown girls and those hometown girls and then there's. 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,440 Something about seeing with childhood friends. 100 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,520 Yeah, I had some childhood friends text me this weekend and 101 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,160 it like made me emotional that they. 102 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,840 I was like, oh, you, you care. I know you go out of your way to 103 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:57,240 see me in a movie. When the letterbox thing came 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,120 out, I mean, it was pretty edgy of me, but I said happiness. 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Todd Salons is my favorite movie. 106 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,600 Yeah. And everyone was like, that's a 107 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,280 bold choice. That's pretty good stuff. 108 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:06,520 And then everyone was like, Sophie's a film, bro. 109 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,200 I was like, I just like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 110 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,280 And then they started like going to like, oh, they're like trying 111 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:14,000 so hard to be. Protected because they're young. 112 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Oh, I. Read all those comments. 113 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,280 Yeah, yeah, I did. Too. 114 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:17,760 And I was like, why should I? I did do. 115 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,080 I don't care. There was a dark day where I 116 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,640 went. I was like alone at a restaurant 117 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,120 having a glass of wine. And I was like, you know what? 118 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,920 I'm gonna go in letterbox because Chloe went on letterbox. 119 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,160 Yeah, yeah, I was inspired by you. 120 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,320 And that was like my one rule. I was like you cannot look at 121 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,000 letterbox rules. Wait, you never had? 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,480 I thought you had. I had one but I never looked at 123 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,360 the reviews and my God, I mean most of them are positive. 124 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,440 I know I was surprised because I was like. 125 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,280 Yeah, I didn't like really. Can't do that though and I'm 126 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:46,720 breaking all of my rules because I'm so bored. 127 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,920 I'm not working right now so I'm just kind of like. 128 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Scroll, scroll scroll. Scroll, scroll scroll. 129 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Scroll. So you can't scroll. 130 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,520 It's yeah. Really obsessive, but it's kind 131 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,280 of, it's been pretty positive. And if anything, it's like 132 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:03,400 giving confident, like, yeah, I'm really happy for Scott and 133 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,240 Brian. And I'm like, I know extremely 134 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,280 happy for you because everyone has just been like, raving over 135 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,560 you. You know, kudos to Carmen Cuba, 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,120 the casting in this. Did you know her before? 137 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Yeah, so she cast me in a show a day called Generation. 138 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Oh, yeah, She told me about you. And I was like trying to look 139 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,800 everybody up. And then one of my friends who 140 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,920 like hadn't seen you in Fableman's, knew you from your 141 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,680 Disney show. She was like, yeah, the Disney. 142 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,720 Kid living Maddie it. Was just so strange to me. 143 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,440 I was like, Chloe's not a Disney kid. 144 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Yeah. Does anyone know you as a dancer 145 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,520 beforehand? Because you were pretty, 146 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,160 actually, yes. Amazing seeing those videos it 147 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,280 was insane like you were prodigy. 148 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,680 That the movie I'm working on right now, there's a the 149 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,120 confidentiality girl who's on there every day putting stickers 150 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,440 on everyone's phones. She asked me, She's like, were 151 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,080 you a dancer? I was like, yeah, she's like, 152 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,640 yeah, I remember watching your YouTube dance, you know, show 153 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,880 stoppers finals or, or whatever. Like she. 154 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,440 Was. Yeah. 155 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,120 So you were. You danced. 156 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:11,560 I mean, if you scroll way back on your Instagram, it's all. 157 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,520 Dance, dance, dance, dance with my life. 158 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,000 I had somebody comment Tiffany, she did Broadway for A cause. 159 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Oh yes. Did you do that? 160 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,800 Cadbury for a cause? Cadbury for a cause, yes. 161 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,520 I did it twice. Yeah. 162 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Did you do it? Did you sing? 163 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,360 You did not. Yeah. 164 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,800 What year? There's a video 2012 I sang 165 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,600 thoroughly modern Millie no stop life of me. 166 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 No. I there's a video if you look me 167 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,600 up and it's just full theatre kid. 168 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,600 And I'm honestly like, I watched it the other day and I was like 169 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,040 damn. That was a little prodigy joke 170 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,040 about you. Like you were a theatre kid. 171 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,680 You were a theatre kid. Like belting. 172 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,280 I know. Are you gonna do it ever again? 173 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Are you gonna go back to theatre or like musical theatre? 174 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Musical theatre was the only I was like up for cabaret and I 175 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,640 feel like that's the coolest 1 you can possibly do is going to 176 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,960 be in London. Wait, Book a Mormon musical? 177 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,880 But sisters, it will translate. Oh my God. 178 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,960 Okay, so Cabaret. Cabaret. 179 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,960 You would have done that. I will do that at some point. 180 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,360 But it's funny to, like, think about where both of us came 181 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,240 from. You were a Disney kid? 182 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Yeah. Slash dancer, insane dancer. 183 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,440 And I was just like a little musical theater. 184 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,720 Yeah, so funny how it's like started from very not not that 185 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,960 we've got gone to the dark side, but like very kind of like kind 186 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,880 of wholesome. Like I mean, I assume you're the 187 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,720 same way. But I feel like now I I like 188 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,560 want not nothing to do with. I think as a kid I just wanted 189 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:51,400 to be famous and as a kid I want to be on Disney Channel. 190 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,040 Well, that's what you do. Yeah. 191 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,280 It's funny because I feel like I'm at a point where I'm craving 192 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,080 lightness. I mean, I love Is it have been 193 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,000 announced what you're doing right now or no? 194 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,400 No, I don't know if. It's OK. 195 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,320 We're not going to say really, OK, I'm not going to. 196 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Say it might just like end up coming out. 197 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,560 I don't know I don't know it's like it's insane. 198 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,960 I like don't even know because I'm. 199 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,520 So bad at like keeping my mouth shut. 200 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,920 I'm always, I also have a very, I'm always jinxing projects 201 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,440 where if I get a call back, I'm like, yeah. 202 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,160 This is the one, Yeah, Yeah. Going to like my next project, 203 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,320 and I did that with this project that I thought I was going to be 204 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,720 doing. I just said it enough to enough 205 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,400 people. Yeah, where I was like, Yep, 206 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,000 something in the air. I jinxed it. 207 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,840 Yeah, I'm way too superstitious. And I was as a kid and I would, 208 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,080 this is like some crazy OCD stuff. 209 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,480 I would before auditions write like 3 pages of how the audition 210 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,440 was gonna go and be like I am going to book this, I am going 211 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,720 to. It was like some like. 212 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,080 Psychotic affirmations to yourself. 213 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,040 Or I guess it was. Interesting. 214 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,880 I've told somebody that and they they said that and I was like, I 215 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,800 don't really believe in that, but it was kind of from an early 216 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,880 age. I would have these like tics 217 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,080 before going into an audition. Like I would have to write when 218 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,360 the shower was really like, I would have to like write in the 219 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,720 shower how it was going to go. And then I. 220 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,840 Had to say it right and I don't believe. 221 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,920 In that at all. But it was directly connected to 222 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,240 my OCD where it was just like little things adding up like 223 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,760 that. And if I didn't follow these 224 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,480 steps or take a shower before my audition and write that down 225 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,160 three times in a row, screwed. I'm screwed. 226 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,360 Like I'm not going to get the audition and I've kind of calmed 227 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,200 down. But I had that where I would 228 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,240 have to do a prayer before every show. 229 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,120 When I was doing this play Diary of Anne Frank, I had 200 shows 230 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,400 and I did a prayer before every show. 231 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,520 And it was just like our dear Heavenly Father. 232 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,280 Please bless that the show will go really well. 233 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Please, I did the same thing with my dance. 234 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,240 I say these things, the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 235 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,000 I had had it memorized at that point that it almost felt like a 236 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,440 monologue. I remember there was one show 237 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,640 where I realized halfway through the show that I didn't do the 238 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,880 prayer and I was like, I just had this pit in my stomach. 239 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,680 Yeah, that pit was from not praying. 240 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,920 Yeah. Praying. 241 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,160 I was praying so much and it's just instilled in you. 242 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,600 Yeah, I know That's I don't. Is that, is that a Mormon 243 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,920 exclusive? I think it's, I feel like it's. 244 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,880 Mormon. Exclusive. 245 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Exclusive. Yeah, no, I do the same thing 246 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 before dance competitions or. Do you still do it? 247 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Yeah, I kind of still do like my own version of it. 248 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Like I do it at least once a week. 249 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,400 Yeah, I'm like. Just I'm really nervous. 250 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Or sometimes it's just like, please bless that I'm not 251 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,600 nervous, you know, just something. 252 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:38,640 Like it's sounds like journaling too, and keeping track. 253 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,880 Yeah, where it's just like putting it out into the world. 254 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,880 And again, I don't believe in manifesting. 255 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,160 Apparently you were a kid. Oh no, I was a man of the game. 256 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,800 But it was, I think it was just OCD and yeah, high anxiety. 257 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,640 Yeah, I definitely prayed before going into the callback because 258 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,600 that was I think my first in person callback. 259 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Yeah, it was mine too. Yeah, I remember just being so 260 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,760 nervous and it's crazy that we've grown up just having to do 261 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,160 self tapes. Right. 262 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,320 Because it's such a different experience on set, I personally 263 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,200 feel like I'm really bad at self tapes. 264 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,720 I mean, for a while I was reading with Austin and he just 265 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,760 has a really monotone fully. Same as Ethan, I do them with my 266 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,720 dad now. Your dad. 267 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,320 OK, Why is your dad kind of a stage dad? 268 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,600 Yeah, yeah, he is. He was a he like, he like 269 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,160 produced plays in London in his 20s because. 270 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,240 It's always the stage, mom. Yeah, that you have it reversed. 271 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,640 Yeah, my dad. Like he, he will read every 272 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,680 script within like 20 minutes. It gets sent to me. 273 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,000 Like my agents will call me like, did you read the script? 274 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,120 No, I'll call Howard. I'm sure he has like a debrief 275 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,280 on it. And you know, he gives the other 276 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,840 movies or plays. It's it's inspired. 277 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,520 By does he have he's good taste? He's great taste. 278 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,600 Yeah. You know, I feel like my my 279 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,280 taste. Grew up with good taste. 280 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,600 Owed to my dad. He had like a DVD of 7th Seal 281 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:04,960 and he's like, oh. Wow, like how? 282 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,800 Old are you got to get into Bergman? 283 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,920 I'm like 11. I don't think I watched it. 284 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,920 But Woman Under the Influence is one of your favorite movies? 285 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,960 Yes, one of mine, too. My dad, I was working in Canada 286 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,920 as a kid. I was like 14 or 15. 287 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,160 And for my whole life he was saying, like, oh, you got to see 288 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,320 a Woman Under the Influence. You got to see this movie, but 289 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,480 you're not ready for it. But when I was in Canada for 290 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,800 this job, he called me out of the blue and he was like, all 291 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,520 right, like you're ready for it. Like, you're ready. 292 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,520 Yeah. And I watched it I've. 293 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,120 Never seen any Cassavetes movie in theaters. 294 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,160 And there's something really, I know, I know, I know, I know. 295 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,880 When I first watched that, I was like, 'cause I had to find a lot 296 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,840 of stuff on my own. My sister was in a lot of French 297 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,000 New Wave, but I was always like, oh, that's my sister's taste. 298 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:55,240 But I think for me, it was like when I was 15. 299 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,440 Have you seen Christina F? Yeah. 300 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,520 I watched that really early on. That's with like the Bowie. 301 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,360 Yeah, I was with Bowie. I remember the day that Bowie 302 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,480 died, I think I was like 15 or 16. 303 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,440 I slept in my mom's bed and refused to go to school for two 304 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,760 days as a protest cuz I was like I love Bowie so much but 305 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,120 Christina was cool. I remember I would just like 306 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,000 draw her every day because I was so obsessed with her and I would 307 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,280 just rewatch the movie over and over and I found that by myself. 308 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,080 I think through Tumblr, which is like the lamest. 309 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,000 Thing to say. Oh. 310 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,000 Yeah, I was a. Tumblr Back on Tumblr. 311 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,400 I'm still on it and it's still my the same username but I just 312 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,080 it's a great place to find art. I'm not even joking. 313 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,880 And the fact that it showed me like Christina. 314 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,440 I had a shoe gaze blog so I would just post a lot of just 315 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,680 music. Really. 316 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Facts about music. Yeah, so is that woman under the 317 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,360 influence as well? I don't, OK. 318 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,520 I think Ellie, Ellie, my twin, had superior taste to me and was 319 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,840 just always on the Internet. And I think we had found Bo 320 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Harwood, who died last year or a year or two. 321 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,840 He does most of the cast of Eddie soundtracks, and Ellie 322 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,840 showed me a song from the soundtrack before I'd seen the 323 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,520 movie. Which movie? 324 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,480 A woman on the influence. It was the like. 325 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I tried to learn that 326 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,840 on the piano before seeing the movie. 327 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,720 And then finally I saw the movie and knowing having the 328 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,040 soundtrack memorized and just like instilled in me, it's so 329 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,760 much more charring. That's cool. 330 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,600 And I feel like I've found that with a lot of movies like 331 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,840 Mysterious Skin, I loved the soundtrack to that. 332 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,920 Yeah. Soundtrack to That's great. 333 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,960 With Joseph. Gordon. 334 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,280 And Brady Corbet's in it. Am I crazy? 335 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,360 Yeah. Am I don't? 336 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,080 Yes. Brady Corbet's in it. 337 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,080 And he, he has the brutalist coming out this year, which is 338 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,400 like one of. And he's a kid actor in that. 339 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,920 You're right, Yeah. Oh God, I really I like walked 340 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,680 up to him because he was at the tiff after party. 341 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Yes, and. I was like, I'm so excited for 342 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,840 the brutal and I was like, oh God, why did I even say 343 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,760 anything? No, I did too, yeah. 344 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,080 Yeah, I just feel like I was like, I don't even want to say 345 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,120 anything. Dude, that trailer is fucking 346 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,680 insane. So fucking awesome. 347 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,920 I cannot wait to see it. And they're doing 70mm showings 348 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,040 all around. There's a couple of theaters so 349 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,400 I'm gonna go. Maybe next time that Asia come. 350 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Yeah, to see that would be amazing. 351 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,760 The score. OK, so mysterious skin. 352 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,800 The score to that, I'm trying to think of other movies where it 353 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,160 was 20 Days Later. It was always the score that I 354 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,840 was drawn to. And then I would watch the movie 355 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,440 and be like, oh, this is an amazing movie. 356 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,560 But it's interesting that I always or not always, but 357 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,360 usually knew the soundtrack before going in. 358 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,720 I'm trying to think of other movies that I found by myself 359 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,520 when I was. Like on Tumblr. 360 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,560 No, it was, I mean, it was either through my sister or just 361 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,400 like I remember when I first got my own Criterion and it would 362 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,280 just get really high and like stay in bed and just try to like 363 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,640 watch every movie. Like the Criterion channel or 364 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,520 like they I like? Paid for the like a subscription 365 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,440 and I felt really adult and I felt really cool. 366 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,240 I watched The Double Life of Veronique and I remember drawing 367 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:18,880 Irene Jacobs. I was like obsessed. 368 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,440 I would watch these movies and then draw the characters and 369 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,440 just keep drawing them because I was so obsessed with their 370 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,680 faces. Betty Blue. 371 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,800 I remember watching that when I was in prospect and I went the 372 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,800 next day to Pedro Pascal and I was like, guess what movie I 373 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,920 just watched? And he was like, you're too 374 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,880 young for. Because I was one of your 375 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,200 favorites on Letterbox. Oh, it's my oh, you said. 376 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,200 I have a huge poster of it in my like music room. 377 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,240 I saw Beatrice Doll at a Saint-laurent party. 378 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,920 That must have been really cool. I didn't say anything to her, I 379 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,640 just stared at her because I was too scared because I was like, 380 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,240 you're my eye. I know. 381 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,840 And then it's like once you talk to your idol, you kind of know 382 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,240 you're gonna say something embarrassing. 383 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,600 Oh, yeah. So I was like, I'm just gonna 384 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,000 stare at you from afar and let that totally. 385 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,400 So I'm glad I didn't say anything. 386 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,640 I live with the what ifs, the. What ifs because I've had where 387 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,560 I've met my idols and I had like. 388 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,560 Yeah, it's, I mean even or. They're just never, it's never 389 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,000 the connection that you expect it to. 390 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,640 No, because it feels so singular. 391 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,320 And then? It's I just start saying I love 392 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,160 you like I love you. I love you. 393 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,240 I love you so much. Like you don't understand how 394 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,200 much I. Love that for you. 395 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,320 That was Alfonso Quran at tiff I think ran. 396 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,600 For two madammons. Or no, for our heretic, because 397 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,760 I stayed a little bit longer and I saw a couple episodes of 398 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Disclaimer. Yeah. 399 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,160 And then I went to the after party or whatever it was, and I 400 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,320 just went up to him and I. Wish I had stayed longer. 401 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,640 I just was like, I love you, I love you so much. 402 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,880 Like I just, I don't even know what to say to you because I 403 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,000 love you so much. Yeah. 404 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Luckily he thought it was funny and I actually ended up talking 405 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,440 to him for a while. Something like kind of got past 406 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,160 it, but I was like, I'm just embarrassed because I can't 407 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,000 stop, I also told. Him it's good to be earner I. 408 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,320 Told him that he has the most like most attractive masculine 409 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,160 men in his movies. Like Children of men, E2, Mama 410 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,720 Tambien. Yeah, children. 411 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,160 Of like it was a movie that I grew up with. 412 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,440 Oh so I remember being like this is peak. 413 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,440 Cinema, it's still so good. Watching it, it holds up so. 414 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,160 Well, I just don't know how he does those. 415 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,880 The the one takes, they're just, they're so good and they they 416 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,280 just play. Made it at the New Beverly and 417 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,920 seen it within. The New Beverly. 418 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,720 Dude, the new Bev does woman. They had a whole cast of Eddie's 419 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,760 Month like two years ago and the only movie I didn't get into at 420 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,040 the new Beverly was, and I think you'd appreciate both of these 421 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,560 was Jenna Rollins Q&A for Women Under the influence or might 422 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,960 have been shadows and faces, but Jenna Rollins was in person. 423 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,160 I waited in line for three hours, got shut out and the 424 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:57,200 other one was Elliott Gould for Long Goodbye and I got shut out 425 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,240 of that one too. Couldn't get tickets. 426 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,520 Wow. Only two ones that I've gotten 427 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,840 shut out. I've never been actually. 428 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,920 Gotta go, I think. Have you ever seen any of Alex 429 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,880 Ross Perry's movie? Yeah, yeah. 430 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,800 I saw her smell there I think. Oh yeah, I remember when they 431 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,840 were doing her smell because he had. 432 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,960 A Yeah. And then I went because I was 433 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,240 like, supposed to be in his movie. 434 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,080 And then that fell through. I remember. 435 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,920 I think that was New Bed, right? It was New Beverly. 436 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,840 Yeah. So I have been. 437 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,120 Because they do. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure. 438 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:30,680 I mean, I don't know, I think Heretic, there's a chance might 439 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,040 go to the New Beverly if we can put it, put in a good word, 440 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,880 because they did it at the Vista. 441 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,560 So I feel like it only makes sense to move the print over to 442 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,640 the new bed. I don't know, I'm sad. 443 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,360 That I didn't see it at the Vista. 444 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:44,800 Is it done because? That was I, I don't know. 445 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,960 I actually don't know because I used to live a block away from 446 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,480 there. Literally a block away. 447 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,080 Oh yeah. And. 448 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,480 Now I'm really, I get that you're not in West Hollywood on 449 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,280 the East side. Yeah, that's right. 450 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:58,280 I mean more in like the. Canyons. 451 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,480 But every time I like come to West Hollywood, I'm like, ha ha. 452 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Every time I pass Airwan and so we're like, I think of you. 453 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,040 I'm like the evil place the. Evil place we're Sophie goes, 454 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,280 ironically or not ironically, and it's not. 455 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,360 It became just like an everyday thing. 456 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,360 Oh yeah, I know. I'm like, why do I love Airwan? 457 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,800 It's so annoying. I'm like, can I just actually 458 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,840 hate this place? But I keep going back for sushi 459 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,120 and a lemon perfect water and which I don't know why they're 460 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,320 like it's like the cheapest. Drink. 461 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,400 I mean, they're the CBD drinks. Yeah. 462 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,880 Which is I feel like CBD is a mess. 463 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,640 Yeah. Was it the recess? 464 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Drinks. Oh yeah, They're like really 465 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,400 sweet vanilla Recess, Yeah. Yeah, they have really cool 466 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,240 packaging. Yes yeah. 467 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,240 I love just going to air 1 and staring at the drink this way 468 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,280 and like this is like so beautiful. 469 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,160 I wish this. Was my friend. 470 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,400 Don't take a gummy before going in that air. 1 specifically 471 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,440 because you never. It's overstimulating, Yeah. 472 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,880 You never know who you're going to run into. 473 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,360 That's true. Never like the last thing. 474 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,840 I run into by air one the people you don't want to run into air 475 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,040 1. Absolutely. 476 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:04,440 They just hide and like hide in a. 477 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 478 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,720 And what's your favorite Lana Del Rey song that isn't get 479 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,400 free? Are you a Lana Del Rey fan? 480 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,240 Oh, let's do it. I used to love Lana Del Rey, and 481 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,480 I would do well. I feel like this whole 482 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,680 conversation is just going to be about karaoke. 483 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Let's go. But this is when she was Lizzie 484 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,200 Grant, do you know? No. 485 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Yeah, when she had heard like bleach blonde hair. 486 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,520 What you're saying Lana Del Rey? Was before she was Lana Del Rey, 487 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,160 she was Lizzie Grant. OK. 488 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,520 And it was kind of the same aesthetic, like very trailer 489 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,120 park, very like, yeah, I'm in the movie. 490 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,840 I drink Coca-Cola, whatever or diet or whatever the hell. 491 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:44,240 Pawn Shop Blues is my favorite. You should listen to it. 492 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,600 It's honestly really beautiful. That's your favorite? 493 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,840 Yeah. I love Lizzie Gray. 494 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,120 I haven't really listened to like recent Lana Del Rey, but 495 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,640 I've had people, which is a huge compliment. 496 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,200 When people have listened to some of my songs that I've put 497 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,680 out, I think it's just because we both are very low. 498 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,240 Low and kind of. Smooth and my I'm always. 499 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,840 Like Melty? I don't know. 500 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,640 See. No, I love. 501 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,960 That gooey melty? I don't know. 502 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,240 And people have been really nice about the cover. 503 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,920 Oh, it's so good. The cover is. 504 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,760 So good. It's been funny to hear the 505 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,280 reaction because I know that it is fade into you. 506 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,960 Yeah. And I've had people be like, oh, 507 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,840 you're gonna owe Mazzy Star some money. 508 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,120 I was like, no, that's the point. 509 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,240 Yeah, you should see me like I'm talking. 510 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Yeah. It's an iteration. 511 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,280 It's an iteration. Have you seen a movie? 512 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,600 So that has been a little, but then I also know like it works. 513 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,880 It's so clever in. The way that it's so. 514 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,160 Good. Did you know Mazzy Star fade 515 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,720 into you? No, I didn't. 516 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:44,280 But they're now listening to it. Yeah. 517 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560 To back, I think it's the slide guitar. 518 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,200 Is that what Scott and Brian had in mind, or did they? 519 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Just I think it was Carrie. Really. 520 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,560 Because originally we had done it was interesting like I had. 521 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Wait, where's? Carrie Coover, Stacy's husband, 522 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,600 who like worked on the OH. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 523 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Yeah, so I mean, he's done a lot of stuff. 524 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,880 Yeah, I love him. He had a bedazzled hat last time 525 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,680 I saw him. He's such a legend. 526 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,520 Nice. Yeah, he's so nice. 527 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Such a sweet guy. But I'd like done it in the 528 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,880 studio in Vancouver and it was a very like finger picking guitar, 529 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,760 very like uplifting. And it was the opposite vibe. 530 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,800 And then apparently they didn't, they weren't totally into that. 531 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,200 So we just did Nazi Star. And I remember going into the 532 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,280 studio and I was like, Oh my God, it sounded gorgeous. 533 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,160 But I also think that it's just like it works so well for the 534 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,600 end of the movie. So you recorded it on your own? 535 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,760 I didn't record it or I like or did you? 536 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,000 Did it in Vancouver though. Yeah, they like sent me to the 537 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,640 studio. I remember responding within 538 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,240 seconds to their e-mail. I was on set. 539 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,480 And I was like, oh, my God, this is like my dream just to like, 540 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,320 be able to collaborate in that way. 541 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,440 Yeah. And even just the, the more I 542 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,640 rewatched the movie, The more the guy who did our score does a 543 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,520 lot of stuff with Danny Elfman. And it all kind of made sense 544 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,080 once I looked him up. I met him at TIFF and he's so 545 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,640 good. But I love like, our original 546 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,320 songs in it. They're so they feel classic. 547 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,800 There's something timeless to it. 548 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Yeah. Which I love that it doesn't 549 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,280 feel modern, right? Because I remember even within 550 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,400 that scene with the like other, when they pulled on your pants, 551 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,600 I was like, Oh no, I was. Like no, my pants. 552 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,360 I got pants. The pants. 553 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,200 Or your skirt. Don't worry about it. 554 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,440 I can't wear pants. You're not. 555 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,760 That's true. I got skirted. 556 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,520 I got skirted. I got skirted. 557 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,560 I'm sorry. It's so embarrassing. 558 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,240 But I remember that being, I remember that feeling off 559 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,880 because I was like, oh, this is like a timeless like it's not. 560 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,440 It almost doesn't feel that contemporary. 561 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Right, right. Which? 562 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:53,760 Is what's cool about it. Yeah. 563 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,880 But then he mentions Londo, right? 564 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,200 And you're like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 565 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,040 We are here. Yeah. 566 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,800 We are here. Yeah. 567 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,640 No, I love your cover. It's so good. 568 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,800 I used to just tell everyone that my favorite cover all time 569 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,760 was Jerry Garcia's Knocking on Heaven Heaven's Door. 570 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,800 It's actually, I think it's a Grateful Dead version, not Jerry 571 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,040 Garcia Band, but have you? Seen the Grateful Dead anytime 572 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,360 recently? They I think they'll be back at 573 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,800 the sphere next year. We're going, you know, it's just 574 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,040 not even a question whether you like it or not. 575 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:31,160 I'm dragging you like it is just will blow Fear this fear like 576 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,920 Sophie. You'd have so much fun. 577 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,360 It's not overstimulating. It's it's perfect. 578 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,680 I find like sometimes I like to be overstimulated. 579 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,360 Yeah, yeah. I'm like just going to have to 580 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:45,200 get some real estate in Vegas so I can just go to every single 581 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,160 show because I made it to five shows this past year during the 582 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,440 residency and I'm like 5 wasn't enough. 5 wasn't enough. 583 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,680 They have some like Cancun dead fest but my dad told me it's 584 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040 really lame and I. Was your dad was a dead head, 585 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,160 right? Yeah, he was the dead head. 586 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,640 He's like the classic, like I've seen the death 300 times like. 587 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,480 You like, you got most of your taste from your dad. 588 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,760 You were saying that kind of he's gonna be listening to this. 589 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,240 And he's like, I mean, like growing up I thought the 590 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,920 Grateful Dead was super lame. Like I thought it was, isn't 591 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,560 that? Funny how that turns around do. 592 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,440 You kind of. Discover it by it. 593 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,160 Is kind of old fart music, you know, but it's but I love it, 594 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,400 you know, I mean, he's so good. It like brings people together. 595 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,720 Yeah, no, I remember my dad would play Stop That Train when 596 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,120 it was a Jerry Garcia song in his car growing up on the way to 597 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:40,400 school. And I remember that song in 598 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,600 particular, I don't know why, was the only song in, like, the 599 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,400 dead Jerry Garcia universe that I liked. 600 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,120 And so that one just kind of sticks in my mind of like, but I 601 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:56,400 don't know, now that I've, like, been, I feel like baptized in 602 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,840 the school of the dead heads. And I'm sure my dad's like, 603 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,360 don't ever say that again. That's so embarrassing. 604 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:03,960 You play cool. You don't even talk about the 605 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,920 dead. One rule. 606 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,520 Yeah, he's probably going to be mad. 607 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,840 I'm even talking about the dead. He's like, no, you're such a 608 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,360 kook, but whatever. I am. 609 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,520 And now that I I've like, been to the show and, you know, it's 610 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,280 John Mayer. I'm like, oh, yeah, these are 611 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,440 some of them. Yeah. 612 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,720 Like John Mayer is one of the most talented people on this 613 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,960 planet. Like he's. 614 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,760 And then I'm listening to these Dead songs and now I'm that old 615 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,040 grandpa or dad who's like, listening to the guitar solos 616 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080 during a Dead song and just like, oh, like that. 617 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,080 Yes. Like let's go guitar solo, so 618 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,360 awesome. Like a 12 minute guitar, so 619 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,840 awesome. Did you? 620 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,240 Ever see Freaks and Geeks? No, I know. 621 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,800 I'm sorry, kidding. I know I have a lot of holes, 622 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,560 no? Well, same. 623 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,920 I feel like you've seen all the classic movies. 624 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,280 I remember when we were first talking about movies, I was 625 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,200 like, oh, haven't seen Lawrence of Arabia. 626 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,520 Oh, it's so good, It's so good. But Freaks and Geeks, the last 627 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,000 episode of Freaks and Geeks, Lindsay, the main character, is 628 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,160 contemplating whether she goes to this what, like I think 629 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,640 college or something. Or with dead heads. 630 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,280 The song Ripple please. Yes. 631 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,920 So good. I love ripple. 632 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,600 I just. Remember watching that episode 633 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000 as a little kid and sobbing. Yeah. 634 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,920 Oh, I got to see it now. Beautiful and it works so and it 635 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,880 was only one season and that's the last scene of the show. 636 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,560 Wow. And like talking about it now 637 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,280 I'm like. It's the last scene of the whole 638 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,360 show. Yeah, but that's, that was 639 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:44,720 always my I knew about Grateful Dead from that show and the Dead 640 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,080 heads, yeah, and the stereotypes about it, but I always thought 641 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,680 they were just like it. Was a pretty funny South Park 642 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,080 episode. I'm not specifically dead heads. 643 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560 But it's like South Park episode about everything. 644 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,560 So funny. I was just watching. 645 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,040 It's so funny. Watch that. 646 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680 That's what I was watching in the hotel room. 647 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,400 That's like my, I said my. Yeah, yeah. 648 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,920 Hotel room. Yeah, every. 649 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,760 Time. That's the only thing that 650 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600 centers me, is watching South Park in the hotel room. 651 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,440 I'm like OK. What was I watching? 652 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,720 Oh, I was watching the episode on Japanese toilets the bidets 653 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,960 last night and I was. You were just. 654 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,800 Such a random episode that just like usually they have some sort 655 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,040 of cultural meaning and I guess this one does too. 656 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,280 But like this one just seemed like just stupid funny. 657 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,680 Yeah. Like really made me laugh. 658 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,960 I was watching the one about musicals where he takes see 659 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,520 wicked and he's like if you see wicked, I'm not. 660 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,280 Even I don't think I've seen this one. 661 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,760 You should see it, it's very funny. 662 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Yeah, classic. But I'm also musical theater 663 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,880 nerd, which. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 664 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,120 Sad to say, but it's coming out into the world. 665 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,240 You cannot hide it. I can't. 666 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,640 Hide it. I can't hide my past. 667 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,280 I also find it's interesting I've never had a press cycle 668 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,840 like this where I've had to talk about my past so much. 669 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,960 Oh yeah. It's kind of a mind fuck and I 670 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,240 feel like feel like. I mean there never. 671 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,680 Oh my God, It truly feels like I'm discovering things because 672 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,720 I'm trying my best to be honest. Yeah, it does feel like, yeah, 673 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,720 first therapy, yeah, where I feel really raw after talking 674 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,960 about it. And I've never talked about 675 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,880 Mormonism so much in my life, right. 676 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,680 And now that it's such an open. Thing in the world, Open 677 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,320 discussion. Open discussion and then I'm 678 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,880 also trying my best not to offend anyone, right? 679 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,400 So it's. Just this really. 680 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,840 Weird line that I've never had to deal with during press. 681 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,160 I remember being horrified before this because I was like, 682 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,320 how the hell are we going to talk? 683 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,360 About. Oh yeah, me too. 684 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,560 I have a. Whole notes page of probably 685 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,880 like 10 pages of every possible question, yeah, that somebody 686 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120 could ask me. I thought going into it we would 687 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680 do interviews and they're mostly, it would be pretty 688 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,640 divisive. It was just how's Hugh Grant? 689 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,680 I was. Working with yeah. 690 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,160 Which is I have my like perfect memorized robot answer. 691 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,680 Like, he's a really funny guy. He's funny, genius. 692 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,800 Yeah, but it seemed like, I mean, the movie is accepted from 693 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000 Mormons, ex Mormons, atheists. It seems so. 694 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Yeah, I've seen some hate comments. 695 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,880 There's definitely some hate. Yeah, going back to you can't 696 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,840 read comments. But I'm like, does that say 697 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,920 something about your open mindedness when I started? 698 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,760 Probably also haven't seen the movie. 699 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,160 They probably haven't seen the movie exactly because it's like, 700 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,000 well, if you watched it all the way through, you would know this 701 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,520 is no personal attack on you. Yeah, but when I watched with my 702 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,320 in San Clemente with my Mormon crew, my last time I saw it, it 703 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,280 was interesting is in the beginning of the movie, there 704 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,640 was always like every other screening I've been to, there's 705 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,280 a lot of laughs in the beginning. 706 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Oh yeah. When they're sitting on the park 707 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:46,080 bench talking about pornography, condoms and elephant trunk and 708 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,720 like all of that. There were no laughs and I oh 709 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,760 God, and they kind of trickled in later with like the Star Wars 710 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,320 and or even. Do you think they found it 711 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,760 offensive? I think they didn't know what 712 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,720 was going on. They were like this is an attack 713 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,000 or like this is and I think it's really smart of Scott and Brian 714 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,080 too, because you kind of have this crazy monologue start off 715 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,760 the the movie. It's such a good start and I and 716 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,680 I could see how like, you know, if you're a super faithful 717 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,600 practicing Mormon and watching it, you're like, oh, is this 718 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,960 gonna be a hate fest to my religion and my. 719 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Beliefs. It's also uncomfortable. 720 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,640 It is, yeah. But what I like, what I realized 721 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,640 too, is like, even when we're about to go in the basement and, 722 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,440 you know, I'm like, thank you so much. 723 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,320 Like, you know what? I. 724 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,760 Mean that honestly, you got the biggest laughs. 725 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,760 It does so flaps. Amazing because you read it on 726 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,360 the script. Thank you so much Could have 727 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,640 been read anyway, but you close right. 728 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Thank you so much. You said it the. 729 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,280 Street Yeah yeah it's cuz it's it's like the nicety the it's 730 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,120 being nice to this sociopath I know but my it's every time the 731 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,200 last screening there wasn't a lot of laughs during that and it 732 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,360 usually. Gets a lot of laughs. 733 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,360 Always the. Wife. 734 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,960 Not that I'm, like counting laughs, but even when I asked. 735 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,639 Even when I asked Miss Reed. You're like you got a sheet. 736 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,080 I know. I'm like, OK, so volume. 737 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,600 Yeah, not I, But even like, you know, Mr. Reed, your house is 738 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,480 beautiful. It's like a church in here. 739 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,320 Did you build it or like so? Kind of. 740 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,639 What I realized with my crew was like, oh, this is like they 741 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:38,120 don't see this as abnormal. Like they're they are almost 742 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,480 Paxton. Like you would be nice and you 743 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,360 would of course. You would say. 744 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,840 That yeah, you would say that and like, yeah, you leave 745 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,000 someone's house, you're always nice, you know, there's like 746 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,400 this nicety that like, it's not foreign. 747 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,600 And so I think when other people see it and they're like, Oh my 748 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,600 gosh, like, how could you possibly like, you know, it's, 749 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,680 it's funny to, you know, speak to someone in that way who's a 750 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,840 sociopath and, you know, making you believe that, you know, you 751 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,440 might be in a lot of a lot of trouble. 752 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,240 Yeah. The laughs were always, you 753 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:10,680 know, kind of like other like someone did laugh during the 754 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,720 meow, you know, and I was like, thank you. 755 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,200 I love when people laugh at Hughes meow. 756 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,120 But yeah, it was definitely that was the most like eye opening 757 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,080 screening I I had. What has been the best screening 758 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,280 or the best audience? Because I feel like this. 759 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,560 Movie is very dependent on how your audience reacts. 760 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:34,640 I feel like the sound at the Vista was game changing for me. 761 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,880 Like it sounds so good and that audience was really did. 762 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,280 You get to meet people. Not really, I think I. 763 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,280 Recognize. You no, I mean, I I I did a 764 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,480 little intro, you know, I said like what's? 765 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,880 Up. Hey, guys, it's me going. 766 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,360 But I like, yeah, I said a couple of words, you know, 767 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,000 excited that they had this footprint and showing it and and 768 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,000 whatever. But no, I kind of like I was 769 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,000 wearing my hoodie. Like I look completely different 770 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,920 than Paxton, but like, I really don't think No, I, I, I no. 771 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,640 Do you think people assume that you're similar to Paxton? 772 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,840 I always find that with roles that I play. 773 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,360 Probably. That like people always assume 774 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,440 that I'm Natalie and I feel like it's kind of like gotten into my 775 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,000 subconscious where I'm like, oh, this is what they think. 776 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,800 It's like they're projecting something onto me. 777 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,800 Right. And you're like, why do I start 778 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520 to compensate for this for? Compensate and like try so hard 779 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,240 not to be or like sure, follow what they're thinking. 780 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,880 It's this whole like dilemma of like, who am I? 781 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,840 But I find that's interesting where you, like always play 782 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:44,960 religious characters. Yeah. 783 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,040 And you're not. I mean, you are. 784 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,240 But like then you talk, you listen this and you talk about 785 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:53,280 the grateful. You talk about like it's totally 786 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,200 the opposite. Yeah, I don't know if Paxton 787 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,640 would like the dead culture. What would? 788 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,840 Paxton, listen to do you think did you didn't ask that at all, 789 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,600 No. I got asked like music specific 790 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,800 question on like. Yeah, Paxton listen to Yeah, 791 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,880 What would she listen to? I. 792 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,800 Mean she probably went to like the Katy Perry concert and like, 793 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,960 honestly, she probably like loves Taylor Swift. 794 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,760 Totally. Sabrina Carpenter. 795 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,760 I can see very girly, girly pop like go with your friends, wear 796 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,920 your sparkles, make the sign. Yeah, I think that that's very 797 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,840 like. Pans out. 798 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,440 Yeah, I think that's Paxton adjacent, which is, that's not 799 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,080 me, I. Was like, that is not, no, it's 800 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,080 so interesting 'cause you're so far from the character, but I 801 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,160 think when you're a good actor, people just assume that you're 802 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,160 in the character. Yeah, when I went up for the 803 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,720 intro, my friend was like, I don't think anyones gonna know 804 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:47,160 that you're even in the movie because of the way I was 805 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,800 dressed. I guess I was like, yeah, I'm 806 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,040 set design. Yeah, I don't know, I'm like 807 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,960 similar. And I mean, I like Taco Bell and 808 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,520 talking about fast food for sure. 809 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,960 So that's yeah, that's definitely accurate. 810 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,120 I feel like it it's like a it's easy for me to play someone like 811 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,080 Paxton. I like, I feel. 812 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,320 Like it comes from. A real place. 813 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,120 Oh totally. You're channeling something 814 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,720 that. But it's not me. 815 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,720 I don't you know, it's it's. Not. 816 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,840 Me isn't. That. 817 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,040 But are you Barnes? You know. 818 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,120 No, I can be serious but I feel like she's like serious to 819 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,000 another. Yeah. 820 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,200 Extent. You're silly. 821 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,200 We have fun together. Like Sophie likes video games 822 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,160 and karaoke and like, you know. They're playing all these really 823 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,600 serious. Yeah, yeah. 824 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,400 Goals like even Natalie. I mean, Natalie. 825 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,320 Can we're goobers. We're true, and that's why we 826 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,520 get along, yeah. We're just a couple of goobers. 827 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,440 SpongeBob movie. Wow, that. 828 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,120 I want to rewatch that and cry. Yeah, you haven't seen the 829 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,520 musical. I would watch that. 830 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,080 SpongeBob Musical. Yeah, I've not seen SpongeBob 831 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,560 Musical, but I'm so down. I'm so down to see SpongeBob 832 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,200 Musical SpongeBob on Broadway. It. 833 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,400 Yeah, it is. It's real. 834 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,200 That would be legendary. OK, so you answered your 835 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,040 favorite Lana Del Rey song, which is a Lizzie. 836 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,880 Grant. Lizzie Grant and it's called. 837 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,600 Pawn Shop Blues. Pawn shop Blues. 838 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,760 It's very sad. Sounds really sad. 839 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,880 Is really. Sound. 840 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:26,200 I guess my favorite Lana Del Rey song, if I mean totally honest, 841 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,680 I don't know a lot of them or the names of them sometimes. 842 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,440 Oh yeah, yeah, I know that one. But I did a dance solo to a Lana 843 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,760 Del Rey song, Young and Beautiful. 844 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:46,920 I think that's what it's called. Yeah. 845 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,160 So I did a solo to that so. Let's. 846 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:57,240 Say that let's say it might that usually might be star powered in 847 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:01,800 2013 walking to the stage dance mom style. 848 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,160 Yeah. Oh. 849 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,400 That's a good question. If you could star in a remake of 850 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,320 any movie, what would it be? I. 851 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,760 Don't I feel like I try to find? I've tried to answer this 852 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,480 before, I don't know. Do you have one? 853 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,600 Maybe I can think. Cabaret. 854 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,360 OK, Cabaret, there you go. The movie is, but the movie is 855 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,240 so good and it's so 70s. It's 70s, right? 856 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,400 Yeah, and it's just like, really? 857 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,560 Have you seen it? I haven't seen it's. 858 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,080 Strangely, like art house, really, it is shot in such a 859 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,040 strange way. But I would say that, or I'm 860 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,800 trying to think, oh, I mean, everyone had an obsession. 861 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,560 I had a obsession with Penny Lane, almost. 862 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,040 Famous. I've seen that movie probably 863 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,680 more than any other movie. And I remember just as a kid, I 864 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,920 was like, I need to be her like. You, you would be a good Penny 865 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:50,360 Lane. Thank. 866 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,160 You. I just want to. 867 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,640 Play a group manifest manifest. That's the groupie. 868 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,440 That's those are good ones. It's such a hard question. 869 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,560 It's a hard question, but like, maybe. 870 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,080 I mean, I do like I was going to say maybe Phantom of the 871 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,240 Paradise. I guess it's not the star, but. 872 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,680 Or actually, I don't know. Hey, Kill Bill would be fun, I 873 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,320 guess. Yeah, we'll go kill. 874 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,920 They're gonna in 10 years. Tori Hanzo Sword. 875 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,280 Yeah, yeah, I'm down. I'm down for years. 876 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,560 Samurai sword. Sword moment. 877 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,400 Japan. Wow. 878 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,800 There's like so many aspects of shooting that that I would love. 879 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,120 So badly love Japan. Who would be your dream 880 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,360 directors to work with? I have like a pretty long list. 881 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,480 I mean, I do. I don't want to sound like a 882 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,880 complete film bro of like. Sounds. 883 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,800 To it. Honestly, I would love to work 884 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,080 with Tarantino. Oh, of course, I know that's not 885 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,040 super avant-garde, or I used to. Original. 886 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,320 You should watch him. Fiona Apple's like my favorite 887 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,640 person ever. Him and Fiona Apple have a lot 888 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,200 of funny interviews together. Really like a strangest duo. 889 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,120 No way. But you should. 890 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,640 And he's just like singing backstage to the Fiona Apple 891 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,520 lyrics. And it's so. 892 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,600 Funny. Wait, that's hilarious. 893 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,200 I want to go to like the Largo and see them or something. 894 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,480 Oh, that is funny. I would. 895 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,960 Love to who else is on your list? 896 00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:11,680 I mean honestly Alfonso Quran, who I like already, told him I 897 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,720 loved him and a million. Times It's good you met him. 898 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,440 Yeah, maybe I manifest manifest. Just write it in your channel 3 899 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,120 pages of. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, Exactly, 900 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,280 Exactly. Yeah. 901 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,480 I'll take notes from Sophie. I don't know, like, I I do like 902 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,280 kind of controversial Paul Schrader. 903 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,240 Are you? When does that movie come out? 904 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,280 Oh, oh, Canada. I don't know. 905 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,040 Paul Schrader, I feel. Like I don't know when that 906 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,600 comes out. He I don't know. 907 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,040 He has some like big swings and I like I loved first reformed. 908 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,200 I still haven't. Seen it. 909 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,200 That's the movie that people were shoving down my throat that 910 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,800 I have to just watch out on my own accord. 911 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,440 I really liked it. I feel like it's oh. 912 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,600 I've heard on your music, but I. I think it's it's awesome. 913 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,640 And in lieu of Heretic and and all, I think you know it it it's 914 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,240 yeah, on brand to like do a double feature of hair taken and 915 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,000 1st reformed. Yeah, hey, that could be a good 916 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,360 double feature. Let's do it. 917 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,240 Let's do it. Who are your directors? 918 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,800 I don't really know. I mean, I feel like all my 919 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,400 favorite directors are dead. Yeah. 920 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,120 But I think that with all my favorite musicians. 921 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,760 Yeah. Everybody. 922 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,720 Because Kelly Reichardt. Yeah, she's really cool. 923 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:25,760 Yeah, and I always, I still haven't seen her Michelle, the 924 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,960 showing up. So I haven't seen that. 925 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,480 But Wendy and Lucy is one of my favorites and I just want to 926 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,200 work with more female directors. Not to sound like, but it's 927 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,120 true. I just want to experience that 928 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,440 because I haven't really experienced that. 929 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,440 Yet right. Right. 930 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,640 I have. With TV. 931 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,840 But yeah, TV is such a different beast. 932 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,960 It's like you don't actually get time to talk to the. 933 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,560 Director, right, right. It's like you don't. 934 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,120 Get to know the director at all. Yeah, that's a good one. 935 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,480 Favorite piece of Mormon lore? Food, I guess. 936 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,000 Food. OK, wait. 937 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,840 Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah is. That what we're talking about, 938 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,800 yeah. Frog eye salad yeah is my 939 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,680 favorite thing in the world. It's the most like random ass 940 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,320 grandma food. I've never had it. 941 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,920 Are you cute? Never had it. 942 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,440 And you told me this all you're shooting. 943 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,200 About me to be Mormon and I was always when I was younger I was 944 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,760 like 8 and I'd be like what's your favorite color? 945 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,640 Favorite food? Is it frog eye salad? 946 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,800 Favorite. Food and people are like, oh, 947 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,400 that Sophie girl's really quirky. 948 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,040 And I'm like, no, you guys. She likes it. 949 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,400 Frog eye salad. It's savory, it's sweet. 950 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,520 But. It's so sweet. 951 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,920 It's like. Like, is it jello? 952 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,360 It's like this tapioca pudding as. 953 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,960 Scam. I should make it for 954 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,040 Thanksgiving, We should make it respectively. 955 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:36,960 Also. Thanksgiving. 956 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,520 The jello pretzels, What is that called? 957 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,920 So good I don't know what it's called. 958 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,440 Whipped cream with the pretzels and the jello laser. 959 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,640 Lee Mormon Food. Slaps. 960 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,040 So. Fire, it's Fuego guys. 961 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,160 Fire. It's slaps. 962 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,080 It's so good. Yeah, I love. 963 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,360 I don't even know what that's called. 964 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,200 Just called the good stuff the good Jelly pretzel, anything. 965 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,560 About Mormon underwear, I didn't even really know what the lore 966 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,160 was around that, which shows how, like, disconnected I am. 967 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:10,400 Yeah, I was like, really? Because people always ask me 968 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,280 that. Well, even in in Heretic when I 969 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,280 get skirted pants, that was one moment where I was like 970 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,800 especially like when I last time I saw it, I was like, this is 971 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,880 the one moment that is going to I think blatantly offend people. 972 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,400 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's, you know, you 973 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,840 don't, they're, they're very sacred. 974 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,560 You don't show them. You know anything about it? 975 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,480 And I knew that was going to be controversial, but I'd 976 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,880 pleasantly surprised by the. Reactions by it. 977 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,360 I mean, like personally, I think it is important to show if 978 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,160 anything, like you feel bad for Paxton, you're not like you 979 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,400 build that. Look at her magic underwear, you 980 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,600 know, but also like what my friends who went on missions 981 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,560 were saying was like, dude, this is totally something that would 982 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,880 happen. Like you experience stuff like 983 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,720 this and I shock failure. No, I think it's just truth. 984 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,760 Like it just shows what could happen on a mission. 985 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,960 And I do think a lot of people, a lot of practicing members 986 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,680 watch it and they do appreciate it and they appreciate the 987 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:17,400 honesty and and think it is not sacrilegious to to show that or 988 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,760 that have that moment. I mean, it's kind of up in the 989 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,720 air can go both ways, but I think it's done in a respectful 990 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,720 way. And I think it's it says 991 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:29,280 something to like Paxton and Barnes's mindset before they go 992 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,520 and and also you feel bad for us. 993 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,240 You're not like. TikTok roles. 994 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,640 Show those magic underwear like what the fuck no. 995 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,800 It's a different movie. Yeah, I guess we answered that 996 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,000 question. I don't know. 997 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,240 Should we wrap it up? Yeah. 998 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,680 How do we wrap it up? Nacho cheese or ranch Doritos? 999 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,760 I'm sorry, I'm just reading. OK, this is all right. 1000 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,040 This is how we're going to wrap it up. 1001 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,360 We're going to wrap it up. Nacho cheese or Ranch Doritos? 1002 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,720 Dude I'm so conflicted because I was in Taco Bell yesterday, you 1003 00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:01,440 were and I asked for extra Nacho cheese on my quesadilla and I 1004 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,680 also got a Doritos Taco which isn't ranch Doritos I guess. 1005 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,120 I'm gonna do Nacho cheese. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go Nacho 1006 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,520 cheese, especially the Taco Bell Nacho cheese, which is. 1007 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,000 My boyfriend's car exploded in the Taco Bell driveway, so we're 1008 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,400 not allowed to go to Taco Bell anymore. 1009 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,040 We don't talk about Taco Bell. Wait, when was this? 1010 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,840 What? A week ago. 1011 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,600 Dude, Taco Bell will forever be in our lives. 1012 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,760 Like big moments in our lives. You know it, I can't escape the 1013 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,960 bell. You know I'm going to get a talk 1014 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,080 about tattoo. Just a Bob Blast tattoo. 1015 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,440 Just out there. I think that's a good don't 1016 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,560 jazz. That was kind of fun. 1017 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,760 Thanks for listening. The A 24 podcast is produced by 1018 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,280 us A 24. Special thanks to our editor Tom 1019 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,800 Wyatt and Robot Repair, who composed our theme.