1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,500 Hey, and welcome back to the a24 podcast. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,700 If you're anything like us, Nick Kroll and Jenny, slate will be 3 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:13,300 forever associated with their Kroll Show characters, Liz and 4 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:16,000 Liz the to publicist behind publicity. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,400 They've also been friends for almost 20 years and with Jenny's 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,800 upcoming movie Marcel. The Shell was shoes on coming 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,100 out in June. We jumped at the chance to Stage 8 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:25,200 reunions. On the Pod. 9 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:28,700 We hope you enjoy the episode. Here's Johnny and Nick. 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Hi. Hi, I'm Jenny slate, and I'm 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Nick Kroll and we are talking for the 824 podcast to each 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,900 other. Oh, we're supposed to talk to 13 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:39,300 each other. Yeah, we're talking to each 14 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:40,800 other. Don't just face the wall with 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,300 the mic. Oh, I thought we were doing 16 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:44,600 monologues. When was the last time we 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,100 physically it's been it's like actually been years and it makes 18 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:50,200 me feel really, really sad to say it. 19 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:56,600 Yeah, and I think I know when it was I think but I'm not sure. 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,900 What do you think? It was going to take off my 21 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:02,900 glasses and base? It's something that's right. 22 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:06,900 Just like a year, like a little I remember that when you got my 23 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:09,100 glasses I get Lasik like years ago. 24 00:01:09,100 --> 00:01:10,700 Yes. No, but then I got glasses 25 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:12,600 because my vision is like getting worse again. 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,700 Oh, but I kind of like it because I kind of missed wearing 27 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:17,400 glasses and I wasn't ready to be. 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,600 Yeah a person fake wearing glass. 29 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:26,200 I just say it you because it's just this feeling of oh, I guess 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,800 old age like Israel that I'm like, I know it now. 31 00:01:29,900 --> 00:01:33,200 Now, like now, I see it. Not that I'm old but that I'm 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,000 like, oh, because I need glasses now, too. 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,900 And I've always thank you so much been like super 2020. 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,100 Yeah. And like proud of it. 35 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:41,900 I yeah, as if I did anything to do that know, but it says I'm 36 00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:44,200 like, are you at it? Like I don't I don't get 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,000 cavities. Like there's people that don't 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 get a lot of Kevin people. I don't, I do, but people brag 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,200 about that with their teeth, like, like I don't get cavities 40 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:54,500 and you've been, like, I have 20/20 vision. 41 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:57,200 I worked really hard on it. It's soaked. 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,400 I mean, honestly, But something about not having a lid, then 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,700 brings like a full mug in the car and it, like, kills me. 44 00:02:05,700 --> 00:02:08,300 Stresses you out. I'm and also that I'm like, 45 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:11,400 you're gonna hurt yourself. Like your he drinks black coffee 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,900 and in like a ceramic mug, it's like piping hot. 47 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:17,000 Do you just not? Does it feel things that I feel 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,700 like fit into the cup holder? Yeah, not because I love to buy 49 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:26,500 like, you know artisanal and because yeah, it's a mug it has 50 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:29,800 a handle doesn't fit into the holder for most people's sodas. 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,700 I don't know if we started rolling the sometimes the 52 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:35,600 podcast, they'll sneakily start rolling just to get the, yeah, 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,900 you get to get that early. Get those early, you know, real 54 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:40,700 moments. Oh my God, like, at the 55 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:44,000 beginning of Krista, Tippets interview ever wasn't on being. 56 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,500 She's like, she always asks, what will they ask people what 57 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:50,000 their have for breakfast? And it's always like a monk 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,400 who's like, I'm staying and yeah, I haven't eaten breakfast, 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,500 but it turns out that monkey was just on an intermittent fasting 60 00:02:57,500 --> 00:02:59,800 among the monks like, I'm a fucking Fatiha. 61 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:05,700 My body, I'm not eating in that I binge at night, or you know 62 00:03:05,700 --> 00:03:08,000 what it is just to say. But I'm pretty sure, you know, 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,500 that I hate this. It's like a professor, with dry 64 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:19,000 mouth, who's like, yogurt on being is what I aspire to for 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,400 this conversation. So we're clear because there's 66 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:24,600 what she's always talking about and I don't listen to it. 67 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,400 That often is really interesting. 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,500 She's brilliant and incredibly beautiful. 69 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:33,400 Did people? There's a lot of them? 70 00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:36,100 Yeah, that's funny. Well, it's funny. 71 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,100 You know what? They say, a little, Jimmy, 72 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:42,600 little giggly. I mean, I'm offended that I'm, I 73 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,300 like want to be on that show. Okay. 74 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:46,000 Have you tried? Did you try to get on that? 75 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:50,600 Yeah, and this is where you landed a 24 podcast. 76 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:56,600 Do you have a podcast? That's a bad thing to ask? 77 00:03:56,700 --> 00:03:57,400 I don't. Okay. 78 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,900 Okay, because I, you know, yeah. And I I don't know. 79 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:02,100 I mean, I hate to pitch it to you right now. 80 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:07,200 But this is it, which is a 24, get the rights to this. 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:13,000 Then she everyone's fucking me. I don't have a podcast. 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,200 I often times every like twice a year. 83 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,600 I'm like, I should have a podcast because I want more 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,399 money. Yeah. 85 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:25,700 Yeah, but I don't know. I don't think I could do this 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,100 when I could. I mean, I do it all the time, 87 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:29,700 but there were years where we would do podcasts all the time. 88 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:32,000 People. Yeah, but then it should I do 89 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,900 honestly think it changed because now, like one person 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,700 made like a butt load of money and everyone else is like, oh 91 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:40,400 wait, hold on. Wait, your dear friend and 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,100 former collaborator Joe Rogan, right? 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,300 You guys are not doing the podcast together. 94 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:48,500 Another weird thing is no one can tell us apart. 95 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:51,100 So it's like especially when you can't see us, it's like wait, 96 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:54,000 who's talking to, you know, in terms of how they think and what 97 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,900 they like is that is that Joe or is that little Joe AKA Jenny? 98 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:04,300 But Bruno, both burnouts Little Joe would be a great rapping 99 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:06,900 name for you. If you were, if you if there was 100 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:09,400 a Divergent path, was there ever a minute. 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,000 We're here we go. Was there ever a minute? 102 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,600 Where, where are you? Was it always. 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,600 Did you always know it was going to be comedy acting writing? 104 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:26,000 Yeah, but you know what? I think there was There was 105 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,700 always a wish that I would just go to like who would it be like 106 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:35,500 Sarandon territory, you know that like and maybe you 107 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:37,800 experienced this too. Like I remember you used to have 108 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,900 that joke about how like if you could trade being funny. 109 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:43,400 Hmm. For just being like a male 110 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,600 bikini model or whatever, you know, like it was like this joke 111 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,900 that I always felt so deeply that I still feel that way 112 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:52,100 sometimes. I mean, I've moved through that 113 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,500 right. Largely but like There are times 114 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:59,000 where I mean, it's just funny like when you meet like really 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,500 beautiful performers or whatever and they like want to make me 116 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:03,900 the. I feel like they won't put it on 117 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:04,800 you. I'll be like they want to make 118 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,100 me laugh. I'm like, oh they want to be 119 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:08,800 funny. Yeah, and I'm like and I'm and 120 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,800 yet I'm like, can I just see that shot again? 121 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,700 Because I'm like, I think I look fucking like a gremlin in that 122 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:15,100 picture. You know what I mean? 123 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:18,800 Yeah, so I don't know if that's how but Sarandon you wanted to 124 00:06:18,808 --> 00:06:22,800 go straight to like like sexy 45 year-old. 125 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,100 Like I can do anything a Actor I think so, I always like like the 126 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,700 yeah, like the the territory of or like I loved Gwyneth Paltrow 127 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:35,400 in sliding doors and a perfect murder. 128 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,900 It was always this like, yeah, I mean, you're just not going to 129 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:43,300 be like a 58 blond woman. It's just not in the cards. 130 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:45,900 But also I really like that thinking. 131 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,100 I don't think you didn't. You can't think that way Jenny. 132 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:51,000 Yeah. I have years to grow. 133 00:06:51,100 --> 00:06:53,400 You don't ever but gone blond blond. 134 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,600 You know, what's so funny? Us as you'll know because you 135 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,400 and I have known each other for four like, I mean, a decade and 136 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,700 a half an hour, probably more. Yeah, there have been times when 137 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:09,300 I've gotten extreme hairdos. When I've been Restless or like, 138 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:11,900 you know, had big feelings that I just couldn't admit. 139 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 And I feel Restless right now because our house is too small 140 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:19,400 and I said the other day, I think I should go platinum, and 141 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,000 everyone was like, just renovate. 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Just grant me your kitchen. You like the fall. 143 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,300 All Out The Fallout of platinum hair. 144 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:29,000 Which is much more difficult than fully renovating your 145 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 house. Yeah, especially because and you 146 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,800 know, you and I when we were just talking I don't know if 147 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,900 they were recording us. We're talking about how you. 148 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:37,000 I don't get a lot of cavities. Hmm. 149 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:42,200 And for a while, I didn't need glasses. 150 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,300 Now, I need them. Yeah, I haven't gotten them yet. 151 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:48,500 I have like one gray hair that pops up and I like rip her out. 152 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:49,900 Hmm. Not that, I'm not into it. 153 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:51,500 I'm just like, sure either be a lot. 154 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:54,200 Don't just be one as if as at the same spot. 155 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:57,400 Yes, same spot and I haven't. So I don't color my hair. 156 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,500 But I'm like, why would I go platinum right before? 157 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:03,400 It's about to happen, right? This is the last moments of my 158 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,100 natural. Right? 159 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:07,500 So like once you go gray, then just Platinum for the rest of 160 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:09,800 your life. I'm fully. 161 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,500 I mean my beard. As you can see, ya is great like 162 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,800 just as so to go back a step and I feel like we should give 163 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,900 people some context to us quickly. 164 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,400 Okay, which is we've been friends for at least. 165 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,200 I moved to New York my New Year's resolution. 166 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:27,300 In 2002 is to do an open mic. Oh jeez. 167 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:29,900 Oh, it's so nice. It's been 20 years that I've 168 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:32,900 been doing some versus started. This you were in college. 169 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:35,400 You came to knew you were in college at Columbia. 170 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:38,000 That's right. And then when did you come to 171 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,600 like? When did you start performing 172 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,200 downtown or like performing out in the world? 173 00:08:43,299 --> 00:08:45,000 Right? So game lead man, and I 174 00:08:45,008 --> 00:08:50,800 graduated from college in 2004 and I think around 2005. 175 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,000 He was like, I think he was kind of like I think I'm going to try 176 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,400 stand-up and I was like, I'm not because I didn't think that it 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,900 was very cool. And I didn't know about like the 178 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:03,800 alternative scene or whatever, that what I mean. 179 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,500 Now, it's not called that anymore. 180 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:10,300 But I was like, I just thought of like, Andrew Dice Clay be 181 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:12,000 like a guy in the leather jacket. 182 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,600 Yeah, and I just was like, I don't get how I would fit in 183 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,500 there and then he brought me to the show called invite them up, 184 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:22,200 which is also where I met you, which was a show at a place 185 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,400 called rififi, which I believe is now, like a Jeanne's store 186 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,300 Buffalo Exchange. As of last like a second hand 187 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:30,200 always, it might have been moved off of that. 188 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,100 But go ahead. Yeah. 189 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:35,500 It was a like a rundown bar like a bar. 190 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,500 Yeah. With a black box theater in it. 191 00:09:38,500 --> 00:09:40,800 And then I honestly believe behind that was like kind of a 192 00:09:40,808 --> 00:09:43,900 porno store, right? I liked, I don't know. 193 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:45,800 But I do feel like that you called pornos. 194 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:47,600 No because that's you have to call it. 195 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,400 Now put not porn because porno Orange from the internet pornos 196 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,100 VHS. Okay. 197 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:54,200 Great. Yeah, I like that too. 198 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,100 Section II, it's only I say that but I like I like it. 199 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:01,100 Yeah, I mean I would be it makes you think of VHS. 200 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:04,200 Yeah. And like actors in that Medium 201 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,600 rather than hmm, you know things without a plot you want to plot 202 00:10:09,700 --> 00:10:12,900 even in your I don't just need to see like someone's clit. 203 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:16,300 I want to know that someone, you know was delivering anything. 204 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:17,200 Yeah. A pizza. 205 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,700 Always. Right that they say, I don't 206 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,100 know or like a clip. Clit massager your clip. 207 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:22,900 Massage here like mine. If oopsies. 208 00:10:22,900 --> 00:10:24,900 I fuck you were something. That's what I used to be. 209 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,600 But anyway, so that's what that was on, Wednesday night was the 210 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,300 best show called invite them up. Hosted by, Bobby Tisdale and 211 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:35,000 Eugene. Mirman, we watch that show a 212 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,100 lot, and I was like, oh wait, stand up is completely 213 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,200 different. Yeah, and then I wanted to do 214 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,700 it. And so we started to like kind 215 00:10:41,700 --> 00:10:44,500 of. We did a 30 second, 30 seconds 216 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:47,400 about, you got that 30 seconds of calm that coveted, 30 seconds 217 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,800 of Comedy Spot. Yeah, and you are, you were 218 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,500 there we would hang out all the time. 219 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:55,400 Yeah, and that's when I Started to do stand-up. 220 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,100 And I realized that like stand-up could actually be just 221 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:01,400 talking. Yes, takes a little while to 222 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,400 figure that out. Yeah, so that's like, seventh, 223 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,100 that's 17 years ago. Probably at least a, we meet 224 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:12,600 each other. Yeah, we and then we, you know, 225 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,300 immediately liked each other's comedy became friends, and then 226 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,500 and then I think probably started actually working 227 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:22,900 together on Kroll Show. Did we worked? 228 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:28,100 We do we We yeah, I mean so you were on Best Week Ever, right? 229 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:31,000 And gave, and I like, really funny. 230 00:11:31,100 --> 00:11:34,400 Yeah, we really wanted to be on it and you were like the star of 231 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,500 it. I mean, we felt like you and 232 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:37,200 Jesse Klein. Mmm. 233 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:39,400 It's very nice of you to say. Well, you were. 234 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,800 And like, I'm just going to put my coffee down. 235 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,900 Sorry, Hmm. This is a spill it. 236 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,600 This coffee is really am I just took a risk, but so we really 237 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,800 wanted to be on that. That's what I remember you being 238 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,600 on, but then it seemed like you, you really started to get a lot 239 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,100 of jobs you. Like on a lot of commercials. 240 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,300 Hmm, you seemed really smooth at it. 241 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:02,100 Like you were really good at it because I remember like finally 242 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:05,500 getting a Cascade commercial. Yeah, figure out how to use the 243 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:09,100 the Pod to put in the dishwasher and like they gave me extensions 244 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:13,600 and I was like, I was but anyway, that makes me feel that 245 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,300 makes me itch thinking about that. 246 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:15,900 Yeah. Yeah. 247 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:19,400 It was so hard commercials are so hard because you actually 248 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 have to be normal. You've to be normal and also 249 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,700 like I don't know, I it's on. It's nice. 250 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:28,000 You to say that because my first commercials, like I were like 30 251 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,700 seconds, straight to camera monologues, and I couldn't 252 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:34,000 memorize my lines and I was freezing up and like Crews were 253 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 waiting for me. If you're going first. 254 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:40,600 Yeah, it really takes her self-esteem down to oh, no, this 255 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,200 is this is what I thought would happen if I failed. 256 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,600 Yeah. And and it and then and and you 257 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,000 really believe like, oh, this is the end. 258 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,900 I'll never work again. Yeah, and it you're on the line. 259 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:52,200 It could be, you know what I mean? 260 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Like it's like now looking back, but A, what? 261 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,400 I will say this. It seems like a digression, but 262 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,700 it's not. I knew that we were. 263 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:08,900 I knew that we were going to do this and I was like, I've I've 264 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,000 I've trouble watching my own work. 265 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,100 I you know that I don't I just don't like it and it can really 266 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:15,800 hinder how I do the next thing I do. 267 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:19,800 Yeah, and I was like, it's weird that I've never really fully 268 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,600 watched Liz and Liz and Kroll Show because so many people love 269 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,800 it. Yeah, and the other night. 270 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:32,100 I just sat down and watched like most of the publicity's and I 271 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:35,300 Was like in tears. It's like yeah, I was in tears 272 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:37,900 not just because like I just genuinely loved it. 273 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:41,900 Yeah, but because and it's almost hard to talk about it 274 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:44,500 without getting emotional, but I've been fired by us now and 275 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:46,200 you gave me a job. Hmm. 276 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,800 And oh God. I'm so like this right now, but 277 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,700 also and you. Okay good, but like and also 278 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:53,500 were both parents. I don't know if your baby sleeps 279 00:13:53,500 --> 00:14:00,700 but mine likes truly loves to party all night long and but I 280 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:04,400 just feel like a lot. As I've tried to say this 281 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,400 throughout the years. I've never articulated it and I 282 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,200 almost wrote you a letter this morning, but I'm like, oh, 283 00:14:08,208 --> 00:14:10,900 that's so mean you're going to be like but so Jenny wrote me a 284 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:14,400 letter so I won't but it was like you gave me a job. 285 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,900 I had been fired by us until I was. 286 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:19,000 So speaking of like you think it's over for that and that's 287 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,800 legit. You're like get fired by a cell 288 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,900 that feels like there's a Cascade commercial. 289 00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:29,200 That doesn't go well and you gave me this job and I felt like 290 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,500 I was kind of like damaged goods, although that's neither 291 00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:33,500 here nor there. Knows if that was how I was 292 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,400 perceived, but I'm walk. I was like watching Liz and Liz 293 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:42,600 and I was like, all this stuff is so much funnier than anything 294 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,400 they were doing on SNL or that I ever got to do. 295 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:49,300 You gave me a gigantic chance? You completely, let me run. 296 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,400 Hmm. You never hindered me. 297 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:56,400 It was the coolest job and I was watching it and I only, I know 298 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,300 that every take you and I are about to start laughing and I 299 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:02,100 can't even believe they edited that show together. 300 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,200 Because we were always laughing. Yeah, and it just was a huge 301 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:09,400 gift. Well, I love that show and it 302 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,800 was so good. It was I mean, I like the thread 303 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,600 like this. I'd like to think so, but I 304 00:15:16,608 --> 00:15:20,100 don't feel that way but ironically about weirdly. 305 00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:26,400 I mean, I love it and I love. So thank you to go back to I did 306 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,200 I had the schedule Kroll Show. And yeah, the full story is that 307 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,200 I had a I was dating a woman who I was supposed to do publicity 308 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,400 with right and she broke up with me. 309 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:45,000 Well, not even she had her most she, oh my God, it's so crazy. 310 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:51,200 But we were supposed to do that together and then and then she 311 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:54,300 wouldn't come back to shoot my pilot and I was like, maybe this 312 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,600 isn't the best thing about our relationship and then. 313 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:00,900 So then I was hadn't broken up and she was like, I don't wanna 314 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:03,800 you were soon as I can. Come, I can't come back to shoot 315 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,800 your pilot. And I was like my rap that pilot 316 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,400 and went to visit her and then she broke up with me 317 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,300 foreshadowing. Yeah, but it was in so many ways 318 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:19,600 such a blessing because and the the biggest one was that we got 319 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,300 to do that together and I think being a parent. 320 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,100 I mean, I always have been a crier but like being a parent 321 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:31,200 just makes you like cry, I cry all the time. 322 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,400 So I think about doing that, doing that with you and doing 323 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:38,800 and I knew that you would just end by the way, your hair on the 324 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,600 pilot of Kroll Show is kind of blob because I had been fired. 325 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,200 You got fired on fire. So you're back. 326 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:53,900 You weren't platinum. Blond disgusting likes and it's 327 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:56,900 actually cool and it's and it's still I mean again, it's the 328 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:01,100 it's the first one is the pilot was the Mitch hurwitz plays. 329 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:03,300 A the creator of Arrested Development plays a guy who 330 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:08,000 wants it and it's a weed. It's a bunch of dogs and bikinis 331 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,099 and cupcakes and vicky864 cancer. 332 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:16,900 Yeah, and I'm Katie Cupcakes for, I can't even anyway, and 333 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:19,200 then we did three seasons of that and you played a number of 334 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,099 characters on the show, but publicity I get more almost 335 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,099 almost more than anything. I get Reflections on publicity 336 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,400 of how much people love it. Yeah. 337 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Yeah. The comedy is actually just So I 338 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:40,800 mean I just felt I don't think I actually have a ton of regrets 339 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,000 but I felt regret that I did not let myself. 340 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,600 Feel how cool that was at the time. 341 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,600 Like not like I stopped myself, but I was so ashamed of getting 342 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:55,800 fired from SNL and I did have a little bit of that. 343 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,300 Like I want to be a movie star on him. 344 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:02,000 Yeah. I didn't really appreciate. 345 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:08,000 She ate how like Renegade that show was and that like, you 346 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,500 know, now I understand that when you feel he's in the moment and 347 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:15,400 your output is just like turbo, like you're just a massive 348 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,400 amount of output and you're laughing and you can feel 349 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:22,000 velocity in your performance, which I definitely feel in stand 350 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,300 up. But that like that means that 351 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:29,900 it's, it's a living treasure. And like, now I get it and I can 352 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:34,100 watch it and be like, oh, This is really cool. 353 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,400 And we did actually, I think lay groundwork for something. 354 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:39,500 I hope so. I mean I think about it. 355 00:18:39,508 --> 00:18:41,900 I was just trying to think of like what the analogy would be. 356 00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:45,000 It's like and I'm not I'm not much of a tennis player at all. 357 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,200 But it's like imagine you and your friend could just hit the 358 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,900 ball as hard as you want back and forth like just like like 359 00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:55,700 and that's what it felt like doing that show specifically 360 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:58,500 with you and and the other Partnerships are was like 361 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,700 Mulaney or Chelsea Peretti or whoever Jon Daly. 362 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,400 There was just this feeling of like total. 363 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,900 Yeah, and it was because of the format to is like it was reality 364 00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:10,100 TV. So there was a real looseness to 365 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:12,900 how it was structured for us to be able to do whatever we 366 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:16,800 wanted. Yeah, and I mean again, I mean, 367 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,800 I you're like doing that with u and W and being able to perform 368 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,700 with you and watching you perform was is like, truly 369 00:19:24,700 --> 00:19:27,100 electric like your, your performance is electric. 370 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,200 So we do that. Yeah. 371 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:34,300 And And we we do a couple movies together. 372 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:37,700 I think both at a time when both of us were like it still was 373 00:19:37,700 --> 00:19:38,800 like it's such an interesting thing. 374 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,400 There are not many people who I have feel. 375 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:43,800 There. Are there people who you share a 376 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,800 career trajectories with and somewhere other. 377 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:51,200 But there's also this feeling of like, like you're, you're from 378 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,200 Kroll Show, you're an amazingly funny. 379 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,800 So if so funny, electrically funny, but also a really good 380 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,600 actor. And so there's this feeling. 381 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,900 If you feel like you can act that like, Like comedians, I 382 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:05,600 think a lot of comic actors and comedians go through this period 383 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,900 where they're like, I also want everyone to know that I can 384 00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:11,500 really act and I'm a good actor and then I can be in serious 385 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:14,000 stuff as well. Yeah, I think that relates to 386 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,900 the first thing you asked, which is like, you know, did was it 387 00:20:17,908 --> 00:20:20,600 always comedy for you? Because there is something 388 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,200 about. Now, I understand that being 389 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,400 taken seriously, just means understanding what I like to do. 390 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,300 And, and having like, the freedom and power to do it and 391 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:35,500 the access to Do it, but it used to be like hitting these odds 392 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:38,800 standards. Yeah, you know, that, that ended 393 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,800 up themselves being brutal or like kind of abusive towards 394 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,300 myself. But but there is that moment I 395 00:20:46,308 --> 00:20:49,400 think for a lot of comedians where it's like, but I also can 396 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,900 do like, what Mary Tyler Moore did right, you know? 397 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:56,200 Yeah. Yeah, and I don't think that 398 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,200 instinct is wrong. No, it's not a bad thing to to 399 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,000 want to be able like I want to do everything. 400 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:04,400 A thing, you know what I mean, but I do think in the back of it 401 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,200 at least in my head. It was always like why do 402 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,800 comedy? Because I love doing common. 403 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,800 It always want to be funny and entertaining but also like I do 404 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,200 like it's like I want to win an Oscar for best actor. 405 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Right. Right. 406 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Right now and you're like it's stuck in your head that that's 407 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,200 like part of it which I think leads partly into the real. 408 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:29,400 The reason we're here which is which is your the movie that you 409 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,000 have coming out through a 24 called Marcel the Shell. 410 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:33,600 The shoes on is that the full title? 411 00:21:33,700 --> 00:21:40,000 That is the full title which to me is such a beautiful 412 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,900 encapsulation of what you do and I'll talk about Dean in the 413 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:47,700 hole, the larger picture of it all but like of what you do 414 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:52,300 which is to be super funny and specific in your humor, but then 415 00:21:52,400 --> 00:22:00,400 incredibly emotional incredibly just super beautiful resonant 416 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,000 vulnerable. It's inside of it. 417 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:08,500 So it's, it is this beautiful and, and I think Marcel. 418 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,700 What starts? What 10 years, 12 years ago. 419 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:13,800 When does it come out? Yeah, it. 420 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:18,600 Yeah, we made it in August of 2010. 421 00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:21,100 Wow. Okay, so that comes out. 422 00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:23,900 You, you put it on. You put on YouTube or Vimeo, 423 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:27,800 Vimeos on Vimeo and everyone finds it and falls in love with 424 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,800 it. Yeah, which was weird. 425 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,200 Yeah, it for, I mean, at least for me at I think Dean's always 426 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,900 been better at the internet in general, like comfortable with 427 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:40,000 it. Yeah, I didn't understand that 428 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,800 capacity in general. Like, I didn't understand that, 429 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,300 that could even happen. Yeah. 430 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,100 At all. And I wasn't, I guess very 431 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:51,800 interested in it and I can't even also think, I don't know. 432 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,700 That I knew an example of like, a quote unquote viral hit. 433 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:57,500 Yeah, at that time. Well, that it was I mean there 434 00:22:57,500 --> 00:23:00,900 was some version of that but that was was a viral hit. 435 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:02,200 It was a viral hit. Hit. 436 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,500 Yeah, and we like, watched it happen like throughout the day. 437 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:08,000 Wow. Yeah, and we were like look like 438 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,300 I remember and you remember that apartment that I used to have an 439 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:11,800 in? Brooklyn. 440 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Did you ever go to any parties there? 441 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,500 It was a tiny but very beautiful apartment. 442 00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:20,900 I remember like kind of standing in there being like well, we're 443 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:23,500 at 800. That's crazy. 444 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:29,500 We're at 800 and then then a big leap like being at like 38 445 00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:31,900 thousand by maybe the end of that. 446 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:35,200 Or the end of the next day and then it like going crazy 447 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,300 million. Yeah. 448 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,300 Yeah, which is its and it will because there had been nothing 449 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,800 like it. So it there been nothing like it 450 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,700 and I just try to burp off off mic. 451 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:53,200 Well, did you tell me? Yeah, and and then, and then, I 452 00:23:53,200 --> 00:24:03,100 remember many that is so it's just So, you know what it is. 453 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:09,500 It's always like so cousin E. Yeah, Yeah cousin. 454 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:11,500 Yeah, it's cousin he's stuff. But yeah. 455 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:14,400 You burped, I beside you and I didn't even get it out. 456 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,400 That was the bomber. Is it? 457 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,600 Like it's like caught up on my side. 458 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,900 Caught up right around the Adam's apples bottleneck. 459 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:23,300 That's so painful. Yeah, so, but so then. 460 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,000 And then I remember, I don't know how many years ago. 461 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,500 This was that you guys had gotten like it was like they 462 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:32,300 want to we're going to make a movie of this but it's been Did 463 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:36,700 the actual beginning of, I mean, it's been so long so long. 464 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:43,800 Yeah, so like we Dean and I moved out to LA in 2012 and we 465 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,500 were kind of, we were like taking meetings with bigs with 466 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:49,700 like Studios and also everything was different. 467 00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:51,500 Then. Yes, there was no Netflix. 468 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:54,900 Making anything but DVDs to your physical. 469 00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:57,400 Mailbox. Yes, Amazon was still think it 470 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,300 was a paper mill. Thing was a big mistake for them 471 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:04,900 to get off of that stream. Yeah, I also like I think I 472 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:09,800 still have a subscription for DVDs in it and Incredibly 473 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:16,300 scratched copy of being there somewhere in my house, just like 474 00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:18,800 like, and I've never returned it. 475 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:21,000 Oh my god. I think I'm still paying for the 476 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:27,200 DVD subscription and of Netflix. I I think I am too, but we like 477 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,900 none of those meetings made sense. 478 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:32,400 They all really smacked of like selling out like it was Like 479 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,100 yeah, Marcel's so great. What if you paired him with? 480 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,200 Literally like a just a tall white guy who probably wasn't 481 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,300 even in discussion. Like they were throwing out 482 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,900 names like about Ryan Reynolds. Jason Segel. 483 00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:48,400 We were like, did you ask them? Like, they're just like tall and 484 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,900 funny but like, did you ask them? 485 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,300 Yeah, you know, this is like, feels like you guys are. 486 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:55,800 There's back-channel here, like, nobody talk to them, right? 487 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:59,500 So there's the interest from. Have you heard of Jenny's 488 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,600 ladies? Like, no Marcin, you don't 489 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,000 worry. All the shows interest in 490 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,300 collaborating with you on something Ryan. 491 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,400 We could have told him that you were interested in as well. 492 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,900 Yeah, and then the agents are like, I fucking told her. 493 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:18,100 What am I gonna do now? But anyway, so no, those didn't 494 00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:19,700 work for us. I don't know if any of that 495 00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,600 happened actually, but but, but we did take those meetings. 496 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,100 We were like, Marcel with this person. 497 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,900 We were like, but why not Marcel just like alone in the house and 498 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,300 they were like, that's not anything. 499 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,800 And we were like, well, it's actually like the hole. 500 00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:37,700 Yeah, actually. And you know, I'm I'm really 501 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:39,800 there was never a moment where we were like, we should change 502 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,800 it. It just was very clear. 503 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:46,100 Yeah, it's like I would just rather I would rather this be on 504 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:51,500 the internet as it was, then it be ruined by by somebody who 505 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:54,900 never could have made it. Yeah, you just have to try to 506 00:26:54,900 --> 00:27:00,800 keep working with people who, at least, understand how to hold 507 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,400 up. What was originally Lie there, I 508 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,700 think. Yeah, and so, we like waited a 509 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,700 long time. Then Liz home, who produced 510 00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:12,500 Obvious, Child and landline, and my special stage fright. 511 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,400 I was like, Liz, can you help us produce this? 512 00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:20,300 And find someone who can who can give us money to not change it 513 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:23,800 but just to expand it. And she did, she found the 514 00:27:23,808 --> 00:27:27,900 people at sinner each who are incredible, incredible 515 00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:32,500 collaborators and and financed our film and gave You know, 516 00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:36,600 Final Cut and like, yeah, all the stuff that you never get. 517 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,000 They gave us that which is kind of the only way that this movie 518 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,300 could be what it is. Yeah, and like, that's why I 519 00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:46,900 mean, sitting here doing an a 24 podcast. 520 00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,200 I also would like to know more about how everything everywhere 521 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,700 all at once got me. Because that film also is like 522 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:55,800 pretty. Yeah, it's just pretty, it 523 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,400 doesn't have a lot of boundaries or it doesn't, it doesn't it say 524 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,800 takes every risk, and we were allowed to do that with more. 525 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,200 All to. So anyway that happened around. 526 00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:10,000 I want to say like 2013 maybe 2014. 527 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,900 I remember you being like I think Liz helped us find 528 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:16,800 something that and yeah. Yeah, and I mean we took a big 529 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,200 round of meetings. None of them worked. 530 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,300 And then we finally found sinner each and they really agreed to 531 00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:27,300 finance our film off of an a treatment and to let us 532 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:31,800 improvise. Mmm, hours, and hours and hours. 533 00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:35,200 Is of audio like 100 hours of audio, I want to say, I might be 534 00:28:35,208 --> 00:28:36,800 wrong. Maybe less. 535 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:39,400 Yeah, sure, but that makes sense. 536 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:43,600 And then and then you start to put together the pieces. 537 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,800 But I mean, it's such a I mean I had obviously seen the shorts 538 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,100 and I have an and your the book that you guys did and and and 539 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:58,600 I've known you and Dean forever and and in the but the film is 540 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200 like so much. It's exactly what I want. 541 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,700 One who's seen the shorts? And even if you haven't doesn't 542 00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:08,800 matter, if you seen the church or not, even it's such a, it's 543 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,500 exactly the heightening scope and and emotional heightening 544 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:18,500 that you, that you that you would want from it, you know, it 545 00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:21,400 is such a because it's like, you know, it's supposed to be really 546 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,600 small, but then, but, but when you make a film of something 547 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,100 that has to be a bigger small, it does have to be a big or 548 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:33,500 small as they always say, but it's so, So in the end, so you 549 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,300 guys sort of started to figure out the story and and put it all 550 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:39,200 together. I mean, it's I can't even. 551 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,600 And then you who's the, you guys had a the stop-motion house that 552 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200 you guys work with? We worked with the chiodo 553 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,800 brothers. Yeah, who did like the, you 554 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,100 know, they did like the opening sequence to Pee-wee's Playhouse. 555 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,200 Uh-huh. They're really like they're, 556 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800 they're really like old-school animators. 557 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,800 Yeah, and and then our animation director was Kiersten lat. 558 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,500 Or hmm, and she is incredible. She's incredible. 559 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:12,900 I mean, even I'm now I've seen Marcel incompletion, I think for 560 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:13,800 time. Yeah. 561 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,300 And what I realized the last time is like, obviously, because 562 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:22,200 I am so, like, fused with Marcel, sometimes I watch it and 563 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,400 I forget that he's not improvising his body movements, 564 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,500 right? And that a person who's not him 565 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:31,800 had to be like here's how to make it look like he is. 566 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,600 Is literally having a physical form in a moment. 567 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,600 That's existing and none of it is, you know, none of it is. 568 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,300 None of it can happen. Unless somebody else does. 569 00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:43,500 Those tiny details wasn't Kirsten's Incredibles eyelids. 570 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:48,300 Everybody's yeah. Like his eyelids and Nana 571 00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:50,900 Connie's Island. I mean, it's just like the I 572 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,800 like having done obviously animation, but I'm can't say 573 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,800 that I'm like responsible for every, you know, moment and big 574 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,700 mouth and all that stuff, but I but seeing It's like knowing 575 00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,400 what expressive eyes, what? And and it's this crazy thing 576 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,700 because I know it's like you only have one eye. 577 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,900 Yeah, and you got a line of a mouth. 578 00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:17,700 Yeah, like there's no, I there's so many things that lead to good 579 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:22,900 acting and animation that you guys sort of don't allow 580 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:27,400 yourself to have it is and then she's able to. 581 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,100 They're the team is able to pull out these crazy emotional 582 00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,100 performances. From. 583 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:36,900 Yeah, from very few elements and bodies that are stiff, you know, 584 00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:39,700 and like Marcel's physicality, like his shell, doesn't like 585 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,100 move. Yeah, you know, and yeah, his 586 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:47,500 shoes walk but there's not, you know, like a little bungee cord 587 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:50,600 or something there. So, a couple, I mean, I wrote 588 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,600 down notes and I'm not going to pull them out, but I because I 589 00:31:53,608 --> 00:31:56,900 buddy, even though I want you but like, like so there's mom if 590 00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:58,600 you want to, it's not cheating. It's not cheating. 591 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,900 So, there's a moment. I mean, it's throughout the 592 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:04,500 film, and This is not a of this doesn't ruin the plot for 593 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,100 everybody. But Marcel when he gets in plans 594 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:10,500 to gets huge fan. Yes, big fat does under Rooney. 595 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:15,900 Yeah, to travel around his house Marcel is a tiny Shell with 596 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,200 Shoes On and to get around his house. 597 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,400 Sometimes he walks on walls and he steps in Honey to do that. 598 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,900 Yeah, like where does where do those? 599 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:26,800 I'd like how does that stuff? Come to be? 600 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,400 Like, where does that come from? Well, that one I think 601 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,500 specifically came from Nick Paley who is Our third writer 602 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:39,200 and, you know, Dean and I we there was a very complex process 603 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,400 to like, making this movie. Generally. 604 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,300 It's not just like a sitting down and and improvising but 605 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:51,000 many rounds of it and then Nick and Dean going off together and 606 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,600 being like, okay, the stories coming together. 607 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,200 We had an idea, but it changed a lot. 608 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,900 And within each round of improvising they would get 609 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,000 together and start to gather The Improv into a script. 610 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,200 And then be like Okay, there are there like these moments? 611 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,500 We need to sharpen it. We need Marcel to say this and 612 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:08,900 they would like bring me back the line. 613 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:11,000 And then I kind of like say something different or say, you 614 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,200 know, like it just kept being open. 615 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:18,700 But in between it would be like these other discussions of like 616 00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:21,500 how does Marcel even live? Like what how does he do is life 617 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:25,400 and there were just kind of be these like like long lists from 618 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,200 people. I mean kind of like we started 619 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,100 in the original Short being like guess how I do this. 620 00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:35,000 Yeah, you know and that That was like a game built into how you 621 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,200 see him. Yeah, but Nick Paley, I believe 622 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,200 came up with the honey. I mean, there's so many great 623 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,600 like Swiss Family Robinson. Yeah, totally things throughout 624 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,900 like when you see this sets built out and you see like how 625 00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,000 he like gets oranges or how he like all that stuff. 626 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:58,200 It's so it's so fun and it's like I want to say Whimsical but 627 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,200 it's actually the opposite of whimsical. 628 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,500 It's like utilitarian and yeah, Away, yeah, you like his, you're 629 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,200 like there's nothing Whimsical about how do you get aren't if 630 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,199 you're a tiny show. How do you get oranges out of 631 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:09,699 the top of a tree? Yeah. 632 00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:12,400 Oh, they're Ginkgo berries. Oh, they're Ginkgo Barry. 633 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,699 Yeah, they just look like oranges I guess next to him 634 00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:17,699 because he's so small. Yes, but that's so fun. 635 00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:22,800 There was a there there, there was a discarded plot line where 636 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,699 Marcel is trying to get his grandmother's memory to sharpen 637 00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:29,300 because he reads that ginkgo biloba. 638 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,300 Yeah. Yeah, you say it can go build a 639 00:34:31,308 --> 00:34:33,400 little bit. Is good for your memory? 640 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,500 And so there's like, yeah, there was a, the film kind of was 641 00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:40,300 like, it would just had so many different versions. 642 00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:43,100 Some of, which were like, they're barely surviving, you 643 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:47,000 know, and right, we're like we tried to figure out, like, what 644 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,000 level of emergency is interesting to us to show. 645 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,900 And at the very start of the film, like Marcel says, I'm not 646 00:34:56,900 --> 00:35:00,300 trying to just like survive. I'm trying to have like a good 647 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:06,400 life on a daily. Asus and, and, and so, like he 648 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,800 is on an adventure, you can totally say that. 649 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,900 But also it's real and there's real loss and it's cute, but it, 650 00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:17,000 but its necessary. Yeah, it's I mean, that's what 651 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,800 you guys have done beautifully. And it is like, fused this idea 652 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,500 of like whatever the, you know, whatever movie seems we seem to 653 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,900 have to make which, like, some sort of hero's journey, you 654 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,300 know. Yeah, but it feels so grounded 655 00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:33,300 and and frankly human inside of Like what that journey is and 656 00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:38,300 how he's going about it. You're the I don't want to spoil 657 00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:42,100 anything. But like when he gets rid of the 658 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,500 breast implants, when he gets, this isn't me? 659 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:46,400 This isn't me? And I hate these because longer 660 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,300 Rooney's. So crazy, it is. 661 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,200 I found the end. I found this stuff around him 662 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,900 and wanting to protect his grandmother. 663 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:59,600 Really interesting. Yeah, where's what does that 664 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:05,500 come from? Well for me and I can only say 665 00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:08,700 for me because Nana Connie that character although my own 666 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,600 grandmother as you know, his name, Nana Connie. 667 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,300 Yes, and there's a large element to this film. 668 00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:18,700 That is what you would call Auto fiction and Dean is named Dean. 669 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:27,500 And it's I think that when there's only one other person 670 00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:33,500 who remembers the beauty of your past because they were there. 671 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,000 Hmm. And there's nobody left who 672 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,300 remembers it and they're starting to go into old age and 673 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:45,500 they're starting to see things differently and have different 674 00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:50,100 capabilities and lose their strength in mind and body. 675 00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:55,300 You know, you can cloak it in like I'm just caring for them. 676 00:36:55,700 --> 00:37:00,000 But there's also a desperation of like, please don't please 677 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,900 don't leave me as the only person who remembers what 678 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,400 happened. Sure because I don't know how to 679 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,200 hold it and still be light on my feet and need to be light on my 680 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,200 feet in order to be myself and live. 681 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,700 But if I have to hold the truth of the way, everything went down 682 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:19,100 and I still don't have a way to put it to rest. 683 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:21,200 I just don't know what will become of me. 684 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:24,400 And what Marcel has to learn through? 685 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,800 His grandmother is like he's he's hiding behind that care. 686 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,000 Yeah, and he's hiding within that act because he's afraid 687 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,600 that what will come next will be less than what he already has 688 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,600 right now, which is, you know, he already lives with loss. 689 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,300 Yeah, but but yeah, I mean, you know, he has to move through 690 00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,200 that and that sounds really heavy, but that's always been 691 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,700 the weird thing about me and Marcel. 692 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:53,300 Is that like, I I just like to be Marcel because he's less, 693 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,100 he's I think he's like more capable than I am. 694 00:37:56,100 --> 00:38:01,100 Hmm, you know. Yeah, he's more in. 695 00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:05,100 He's got more Ingenuity. Or is it like he's stronger. 696 00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,100 Like what is it? What is it? 697 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:09,000 That you feel? I think, I think, I mean, you 698 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,000 know, if everything is like to scale, he's a like physically 699 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,600 stronger individual than I am and he's more industrious. 700 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000 Hmm. He's just he's way more 701 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:27,200 industrious and and rugged I am but also like he has less of he 702 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,600 has, like less interference from his own psyche. 703 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:33,700 Mmm. And so, he just goes direct and 704 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:39,300 he is often times. Like, he appears innocent to us, 705 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,800 because he's so unaware of how he comes off. 706 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,100 Right? And I'm a performer. 707 00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,600 So, I am aware of how I come off. 708 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,000 Yeah, but I found inside of this, there are these much more 709 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,700 like Especially like around caring for his grandmother or 710 00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:54,700 whatever. Like there's he he really is. 711 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:56,900 It gets a little hard. Yeah, he does. 712 00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:59,900 He's like he's sort of is like no, we're not doing that like 713 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:03,400 and it's like, you know way that's very sure and forthright 714 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,200 about it, even though he's clearly struggling to figure out 715 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,400 what he's supposed to do. Yeah, Marcel's attitude when he 716 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,900 has attitude like that moment where he's like, I don't have 717 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:14,100 enough time in my day and now she has attitude and like I 718 00:39:14,107 --> 00:39:16,500 don't even like that. That's just how I sound when I'm 719 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:22,600 angry. Yeah, and I I mean like I think 720 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,900 Dean and I both use this film in the ways that sometimes you use 721 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:30,600 your own art to just allow parts of yourself that you don't love 722 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,200 to be repurposed into something that feels better. 723 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,600 And that's that for me, for sure. 724 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,200 And I like that Marcel he does, you know, like the cliche 725 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,200 version of him would be like he does just hop into adventures 726 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,900 and he's like so small, but he's down to do it like, you know, 727 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:52,700 and actually that's not his way. No, he really doesn't want to 728 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:57,200 be. He really sees a way in, which 729 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,500 his life could just be a lot worse and he's afraid and he's 730 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:05,500 like, he's like rigid in that. Well, I mean, it's mean. 731 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:09,500 It's when you think about when you when when everybody here 732 00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,500 listening to this podcast sees the movie you'll understand. 733 00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:13,700 Why, right? I guess. 734 00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:17,800 I like maybe this is boring for people know, it's I mean, it's 735 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,800 to me, it's very interesting and I think people it's One of these 736 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,400 things, you it, defies defies explanation. 737 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,200 You really just have to see it. And it's really, it's very 738 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,200 special. Don't you just feel like a lot 739 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,000 of the work you've made. You got in just under the wire 740 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,600 before people started to say like we just don't get what we 741 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,000 just can't figure out how this goes into the algorithm or 742 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000 something. Now, with Marcel coming out. 743 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,200 I'm so aware that like, there's so many ways that this movie, 744 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,600 never would have gotten made, and it's completely untampered 745 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,800 with it. Like it's really really what we 746 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,200 wanted it to be and I'm just like, I don't know. 747 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,900 I just don't know that that would happen. 748 00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:00,700 Now. I know but the truth is, it did 749 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:03,500 it did and so I'm like, really, really enjoy. 750 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:07,200 And that's what's and I mean, going back to the beginning of 751 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,800 this like of like needing glasses are being like, oh, 752 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,800 we're we're not beginning. We're not in the beginning of 753 00:41:13,808 --> 00:41:17,200 this thing of our careers, are our lives at all. 754 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,500 And so you begin to have a Little more awareness and 755 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,500 hopefully inside of that gratitude that you're like, oh 756 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:26,900 we get to do this and we got it in Under The Wire. 757 00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,300 Yeah, and and and there's another side of that thing. 758 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,400 Can be like the Panic of like does wait does that mean I won't 759 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,100 be able to keep doing this stuff for sure. 760 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,400 I mean in a weird way I am not a morbid person nor do I almost 761 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000 ever, think about death suffering a lot. 762 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,600 I'm like, oh my God. I really don't want to break my 763 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,700 ankle and like have a cast and have my pants like be hard to 764 00:41:47,707 --> 00:41:52,600 put on like that but But I do feel this feeling now, 765 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,400 especially since like, I have a daughter and I I'm only going to 766 00:41:56,408 --> 00:41:58,300 have one baby. So I'm like, oh my God, 767 00:41:58,300 --> 00:41:59,800 everyday, every moment. She gets older. 768 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,000 I'm like, oh no, she's getting bigger. 769 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,000 I mean, like I want her to but also don't and there's like, 770 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,200 wow, she's going to be big one day and all of this that I'm 771 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,700 like it. I have a normal. 772 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:15,900 I think healthy feeling of like, I don't know. 773 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:17,500 I don't know. When the next thing I'm going to 774 00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:24,200 make is, I don't know. And so Like I wish like when 775 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,400 Obvious Child came out that I had enjoyed it a little bit 776 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,400 more. I definitely enjoyed it and we 777 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,900 like had a really fun, press tour. 778 00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:32,800 But I was also caught up in other stuff. 779 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,100 Yeah, you know like cheaper vanities that that really 780 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:41,500 impeded me on a daily basis. Yeah, and I also don't know I 781 00:42:41,508 --> 00:42:48,200 was like a much younger woman then sure but now I feel really 782 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,900 free to enjoy myself. Italy, because I'm like, I don't 783 00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:53,600 know. Like, I don't know when I'll 784 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,400 ever if I'll ever make anything like this again or be Marcel in 785 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,000 performance, you know, uh-huh. Like I can be him. 786 00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:05,500 I am him to myself a lot worse. I talk to the baby in that 787 00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:06,500 voice. You do. 788 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,700 Oh, yeah, and she does love it. Yeah, I bet she loves like Ave 789 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,000 Maria in that voice for example, like singing in that boys. 790 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,200 Love it. Yeah. 791 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,000 It's easier for me to sing and character than it is as myself. 792 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,300 Me, too. Me, too. 793 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,500 Yeah, sing a beautiful song. What is the song that Marcel 794 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,300 sings in its Peaceful Easy Feeling by The Eagles? 795 00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,600 Wait, so do you have the rights to an eagle song? 796 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,700 Yeah, and you know what? What if I just left, aren't you 797 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,700 gonna guess that's what a great podcast. 798 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,100 So I think like Dean would be fine with me telling the story. 799 00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:47,500 But so it was like 2 a.m. And I couldn't sleep and I guess 800 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:52,400 I I do like the eagles a lot. Weirdly not exactly my style 801 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,000 like classic rock, but I like Story songs and he's like and 802 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,500 don't you call Stereo Steely Dan story song, Billy Joel Billy, 803 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:01,400 Joel. Stories. 804 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,800 Yeah, he likes his story story. Thanks, right. 805 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,900 And I like them too. And I made a voice recording. 806 00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:12,100 Excuse me. I made a voice recording of that 807 00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:14,800 song. I'd like two in the morning and 808 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,900 sent it to Dean and was like, is this anything. 809 00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:23,300 And you know at the time he and I were like we were like at the 810 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,900 we decided to get divorced and we were both dating other 811 00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:28,300 people. We were, you know, there was 812 00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:31,400 like peace over that but it was like very Saying to us about how 813 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,600 to have like a friendship while it also collaborate on thing 814 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,500 that you built together. Yeah, but we don't know. 815 00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:44,700 I mean we did have we were like, you know just still in touch a 816 00:44:44,707 --> 00:44:47,500 lot and just trying to push through that. 817 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:51,300 And so anyway, in like I sent it to him and he was like, oh my 818 00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,200 God, you're killing me. This is like, what is this for? 819 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,900 This has to be something and we just we were like it has to be 820 00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:59,700 something. I love hearing Marcel sing that 821 00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,900 song. And, and we did end up. 822 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,300 We just recorded it one time. I think Dean has the footage of 823 00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:09,800 it. Like, we recorded it outside in 824 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,400 a backyard and we were like, hopefully the Eagles will let us 825 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,500 have this song because it's kind of like in the movie now, but 826 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:24,500 because it's so fascinating here because like it's getting a song 827 00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:26,500 in a movie or show is really hard. 828 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,600 Yeah. Really hard. 829 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,100 And there's publishing, then there's performed all that 830 00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,800 stuff. And it's can be expensive. 831 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,600 It's to me very funny that you went to historically, the most 832 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,900 litigious band in. I didn't know that they're like, 833 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,300 they have sued each other each other. 834 00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:47,700 So many times that it's so funny. 835 00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:51,800 But what it's a testament to the project, the film and your voice 836 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,100 that they would sign off on that. 837 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:56,000 It's really nice. I mean, in credit like yeah, 838 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,000 like I didn't know that. Oh my God, they they It's the 839 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,200 most. I don't know if it's on their 840 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,200 greatest hits, but it's like the biggest selling album of all 841 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:09,100 time that album sometimes my view of myself from outside of 842 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:12,500 myself as like, just a fool skipping over like lava pools 843 00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:15,100 without realizing like the terrain in any way, like I'm 844 00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,600 just like put this song in the movie Bobby do but even the 845 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,400 popping that if that's the way things happen and you should go 846 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,800 on floor is lava. I mean if you watch that edge, 847 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,900 what's that? There's a show on Netflix where 848 00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:29,900 the thing is like floor is lava and it's like you have to like 849 00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,700 jump from thing. The thing, or you get like 850 00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:34,200 caught in like lava. What's the lava though? 851 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,200 It's lava. No, but I don't think it's 852 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,100 really hot magma. But but if you squirted some 853 00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:47,600 diarrhea in there, yeah. No, I don't want to go on that, 854 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,300 but I did hear that Ina Garten has a show now where she like 855 00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:53,000 lets people come to her house in the Hamptons and cooks for them. 856 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000 And you like to do that. Yeah, I would just to say on a 857 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,900 microphone literally that will go into outer space. 858 00:46:56,900 --> 00:47:00,400 Like could I because I love her. Well, let's get that going. 859 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,400 Get Jenny slate on the line and Garden Show. 860 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,200 Let's do that. Then we got to manifest. 861 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:11,100 We got but to manifest so. So then, but I do love singing 862 00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:12,600 that voice. Just it's beautiful. 863 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,100 And it's, and it makes perfect sense. 864 00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:17,600 I get it. I get it that leads. 865 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:19,300 I guess, who you've been making that movie forever? 866 00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:23,300 And then I'll you, and I have not physically seen each other 867 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:25,000 in a really long time. Yeah. 868 00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:29,200 And in that time, you gave birth to a baby. 869 00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:31,600 Yeah. And My kamath. 870 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,000 I became a father. Yeah, a month apart. 871 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,600 We're like a month apart and our kids are. 872 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,800 And how are you? How you doing? 873 00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:44,000 I think of doing great, you know, what's weird. 874 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,000 I mean as you as you know, I didn't think I didn't really 875 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,500 know that I would ever have kids. 876 00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:54,100 It wasn't for me. I just didn't think I did and I 877 00:47:54,107 --> 00:47:56,600 didn't know how that would take your into my life. 878 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,400 Yeah, and certainly was never like some people have that is 879 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,100 like, they're driving thing like, Will not be fully realized 880 00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:10,100 unless I enter Parenthood and I truly love having a baby like, 881 00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:13,800 I'm really tired. Yeah, I've never experienced 882 00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:15,000 this. Yeah. 883 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,100 Level of fatigue. Yeah, but I've never been more 884 00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:26,200 happier more like secure or healthy in my life, and I just, 885 00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:30,900 I'm glad I had a baby at 39 because I know that if I'd Had a 886 00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:32,900 baby at 30 that I would have for babies. 887 00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:37,600 Yeah, I get now we get it. You'd get addicted to it. 888 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,900 Yeah, because and I don't know if you feel this way, but it's 889 00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:47,200 like, you know, you when you have a baby, you have to figure 890 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,200 out what it actually means to healthily love someone and not, 891 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,100 like, be obsessed with them or hope you get something from 892 00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:59,400 them, or be codependent with them, or whatever, all of the 893 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,600 different iterations. I have thought were love before, 894 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,700 but like, how do you truly like, nurture? 895 00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:08,300 They're like in their well-being. 896 00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:11,800 That's like the quote, from a bell hooks book that I read two 897 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,100 summers ago that I'm like, oh, oh, okay. 898 00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:16,500 Like to love someone means to nurture their spiritual 899 00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:18,500 well-being. So what is that? 900 00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:21,100 And like, what's the difference between controlling them and 901 00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:25,900 caring for them? Mmm, and also that like, you're 902 00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:30,100 allowed to love a baby Infinity. Like you, it's never like too 903 00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,300 much. And you know, it's sure but but 904 00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,000 I would as your bring it all up. I'm like, huh? 905 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,500 Cause I'm like, I am kind of obsessed with him. 906 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:42,100 So like you are this Infinity love which I understand. 907 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:48,900 I'm like, oh am I? Am I fucking him up by Mike? 908 00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:51,400 Just constantly be like, you're so beautiful. 909 00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:52,800 I don't know. Yeah, I don't think so. 910 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,700 Yeah, there are other things like, I mean, do you feel like 911 00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:56,900 that? Do you like? 912 00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:58,600 What's your, what's your big take? 913 00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:01,900 This is sort of several, you're saying, but I, but it's like 914 00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:03,700 it's very weird. When you see an expression or 915 00:50:03,707 --> 00:50:07,900 something to see something that you've only felt interior. 916 00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:13,200 Yeah, in an exterior form, uh-huh, which is narcissistic. 917 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,500 Ultimately. I know that I'm Saying I I see 918 00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:18,700 myself, but it's this weird thing where you're like, oh this 919 00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:21,000 is half me and have someone else. 920 00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:25,600 And then it's also its own entity entirely and and like, 921 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,200 and I think that's the great challenge of Parenthood is, 922 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,200 you're like, you're like, oh I see this thing about myself that 923 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,500 I don't like, or this thing that I like too much about myself or 924 00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:35,100 this thing that I see about my spouse. 925 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:39,700 That I like, or yeah, and, and, and it's like, it's just just, 926 00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:46,500 it's, it's so Wild on I haven't even been able to fully 927 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:48,000 formulate my thoughts on all of it. 928 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,100 Because so often times when I'm inside of something. 929 00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:54,500 I can't quite pull out to see what what it is that's happening 930 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,600 and I feel like with him right now. 931 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,000 I'm like, all I can feel is like, I'm just watching a being 932 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,800 take shape. Yeah, and I have some control 933 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,100 over that because I'm the parent one of the parents. 934 00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:14,100 But also there is this thing of like they have come out with an 935 00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,600 s. Since yeah, they do they really 936 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,100 do and it's fucking wild but it, I feel. 937 00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:25,400 Yeah, I think I just, I feel like a level of, there's just 938 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,600 some, it's just this other love that you have never experienced 939 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,500 sounds so cliche, but it is, you're like, oh, there's just 940 00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:32,100 this love that. I've never experienced before. 941 00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,700 The yeah. Is this access? 942 00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:35,900 This opens this door to this whole other? 943 00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:38,800 This whole other house that I've never been in. 944 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,800 Yeah, a lot of stuff rolls off my back now. 945 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,600 Hmm. Because there is a Love in my 946 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,500 family between me and Ben and Ida and and I also think that's 947 00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:53,700 why stand-up feels different for me. 948 00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:57,700 Yeah, like I got on stage and I mean, I think I've always, you 949 00:51:57,700 --> 00:52:00,400 know, used what's happening in my life to make comedy. 950 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,900 And that's also what Marcel is for sure, but that I was like, 951 00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:07,700 trying to do stand-up about what was happening right now, and I 952 00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:09,600 was like, but I missed you years. 953 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,400 I missed two years and I can't like be up there without talking 954 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,400 about what happened before. And one of the longer like I 955 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,200 did, I was able to get like a half an hour at our set Irish 956 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,800 show at Largo a couple weeks ago and I was like, oh, all I have 957 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,200 to do is tell the truth in the way that I tell it whatever, you 958 00:52:27,207 --> 00:52:30,600 know, but like oh like I've always known that and that's 959 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,700 kind of been like my what my guarantee or whatever. 960 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,800 Like when you're watching me. I'm trying to tell the truth. 961 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,600 Yeah, but now I'm like, oh literally, actually that is all 962 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,400 there is that it feels like so much relief. 963 00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:49,600 How are you doing? Figuring out what to share about 964 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,100 your child about your Merit? Like, how do you, where does 965 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,000 that? How are you navigating that? 966 00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,900 I'm not talking about Ida a lot because I just don't feel like 967 00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:03,300 she can say yes or no to that. I mean, she literally cannot say 968 00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:06,600 yes or no, so I don't talk about that. 969 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:14,700 But, you know, I I'm talking about like meeting Ben and That 970 00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:20,100 like, although I mean when we, when we got married, I like read 971 00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:23,800 to him from my journal of the that I had like was writing in 972 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,500 the weekend that we met and I hadn't remembered this. 973 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,300 But I looked back in it after we got engaged to see like what 974 00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:33,100 were my first impressions of him? 975 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,500 And that that weekend I had written like this is such a 976 00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:41,600 weird thing for me to write but I and like, maybe I'm just being 977 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,300 so weird about a stranger. But I actually, I feel that if I 978 00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:47,200 could marry him, I would have the type of life. 979 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,100 I would want to have. Wow, and that like, I actually 980 00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:55,300 think he might be, I think he might be a person that I and my 981 00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:58,000 own taste think is like living true beauty. 982 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,600 Mmm, and I did feel that way. But then like I'm saying in my 983 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,200 stand-up like we tried to get together and it like didn't work 984 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,200 out. It didn't work out at first and 985 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200 like and and we were both like it was bad timing. 986 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,800 Yeah, and so I'm talking about that but but from my perspective 987 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,200 and like, You know, wanting to be respectful of him and so, I 988 00:54:17,207 --> 00:54:22,300 always ask him. Yeah, but it is interesting, and 989 00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:26,500 I can feel the weight of a liar, cover up, or whatever. 990 00:54:26,500 --> 00:54:30,400 If I just go on stage and say, like the funny, I met my husband 991 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,700 and like, you know, I I knew he was going to be my husband right 992 00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:37,400 away because actually I wanted him to be but like he didn't 993 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:43,500 want to I mean, that's a it's a very yeah, I'm my because I'm 994 00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:46,400 been touring Aaron and I started touring before the pandemic and 995 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,000 was like, I had my our ready to go and then yeah the pandemic 996 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,800 happen and then now I'm still like wrapping it up to like get 997 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:59,100 ready to shoot as a special and and it is interesting now with 998 00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,200 like, you know, because I've been time at the last couple 999 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,800 years. It's like the tour is called 1000 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,900 like middle-aged boy, right? Like so like in my manner a 1001 00:55:05,908 --> 00:55:09,300 bully and then like I got married and had a child. 1002 00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:11,500 You're like, oh, I'm a man. I'm a boy. 1003 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,600 I'm a boy. I'm gonna go nuts. 1004 00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:18,100 I'm a boy, man. But no, I'm a, I'm a man and I 1005 00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:24,100 know I'm a man, so, but it is this thing of like in talking as 1006 00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,600 your time at, like a being like, Oh, I'm going to tell the story 1007 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,200 and then but involves Lily and I'm like, and it is like, hey, 1008 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,600 can I talk about this? How? 1009 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,700 Yeah. And like birth and stuff like 1010 00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:36,700 that and she was sort of like you can talk about if you don't 1011 00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:40,500 make some like bullshit, trivializing joke about it. 1012 00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,600 That's for sure. And I was like, that's and that 1013 00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:48,400 Force. Me to find some more interesting 1014 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,800 truths to it. That I think, I think are I'm 1015 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,200 some super glad. I mean beyond the fact that it's 1016 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,000 like, it's I think decent to do with your partner to be like, 1017 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,700 hey, I do this thing where I talk about our lives, so that's 1018 00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:06,500 not entirely fair to you. So you get to weigh in on that. 1019 00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:10,400 Yeah. I really, really get in a pissy 1020 00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:14,300 mood about people who think that their art doesn't touch them. 1021 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,700 Life. Yeah, I mean maybe some people 1022 00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:22,600 it doesn't, you know, like whatever like if you're a super 1023 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,100 method actor and you just do that and everyone else has to 1024 00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:26,600 deal with it or something like that. 1025 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,100 Seems really hard and the same for comedians. 1026 00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:32,900 Like, I think I was never very aggressive about this, but I 1027 00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:36,300 sort of used to feel like if I want to talk about it, like I 1028 00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:38,600 should be able to talk about it because I'm not a mean person. 1029 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,700 And I'm not going to like, dress anyone down and now I really 1030 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,300 don't feel that way. Yeah. 1031 00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:48,200 I feel like, you know, if what I'm going to talk about on 1032 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,900 stage. I have to understand that 1033 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,400 whatever power I get, you know, like from, you know, people 1034 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,300 laughing because I'm being funny or whatever like that has to 1035 00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:05,000 still, that can't be at the price of my partner's experience 1036 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,700 or self-respect or the size of the person that they are. 1037 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,100 Yeah, you know, unlike but in terms of joking about birth, I 1038 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,600 Like some of my new stand-up is actually about how annoying 1039 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,500 those jokes are ya and those jokes are so weird, like the 1040 00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:26,100 trivializing ones or the like malooley vagina got destroyed or 1041 00:57:26,107 --> 00:57:29,400 whatever. Like how some of my new stand-up 1042 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,800 is. I feel like I want to just talk 1043 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,000 about why we even do that even do that. 1044 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,400 And and it's been really fun to find what's actually underneath 1045 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,200 the cliche. Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean 1046 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,700 that's That's the goal is like trying to find whatever as 1047 00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:50,100 you're saying, find, whatever is underneath the cliche, because I 1048 00:57:50,107 --> 00:57:52,400 think that like, going back to like publicity. 1049 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,600 That was, what was so fun about doing it with? 1050 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,100 You was like, okay, are there. Here's what these shows are and 1051 00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:01,400 then but in a weird way here is, what's underneath that in these 1052 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,800 two people. I think we should wrap this up. 1053 00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:06,100 Okay, I don't have an eye on the clock. 1054 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,700 I know we're supposed to be in conversation. 1055 00:58:07,700 --> 00:58:10,800 But I, yeah, but to me, this conversation should be in 1056 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,500 service of your movie. That's nice of you to say 1057 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,000 because Was because you guys have worked incredibly hard on 1058 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,600 it for a really, really long time. 1059 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,400 Yeah, and it's a really beautiful thing. 1060 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,200 Thanks. And I think I think the world is 1061 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:29,600 really going to love it. The way that they, that I think 1062 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,700 people will love it the way you intend for it to be loved. 1063 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,500 I hope so. Yeah, I mean and now that I 1064 00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:39,600 really don't go on my social media very much like I post and 1065 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,100 then I delete it from my phone. Yeah. 1066 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,700 So, I don't know if I'll know and I don't like read reviews. 1067 00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:48,200 Although, sometimes Dean sends them to me, went like, he really 1068 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,000 loves them. Yeah, because he's like, no, 1069 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,000 please read this one. It's really yeah. 1070 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,600 Yeah, share this with me is how he feels, and I think that's 1071 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,900 right. But I, all I can say is it's 1072 00:58:59,900 --> 00:59:06,000 exactly what we meant to do and that I do offer it up as an 1073 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:12,500 example of Both myself and I hope that it can be a gift to 1074 00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:16,700 everyone. And that I feel satisfied in it 1075 00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:19,600 all for free. Well, it's a you guys made 1076 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:20,700 something really, really beautiful. 1077 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,300 So cute darling. Yeah. 1078 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,100 All right, so we'll do the publicity reboot for seaso 1079 00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:30,600 coming up. What's C. 1080 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:37,100 So she's always like one of those failed, like, you know, In 1081 00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:44,700 the aqua, be clean. Be, honestly, you were amazing 1082 00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:49,000 though. I'd this podcast like shot off. 1083 00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:54,000 Like, honestly, I couldn't tell if we were like working or 1084 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,600 having fun. But for me, like, working is 1085 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,300 fun. Oh man. 1086 01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:03,300 In this was idiot so much. I know. 1087 01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:06,600 We'll get em, we'll get em back up and running somewhere along. 1088 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,900 Way. My God, is that when I finally 1089 01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:15,100 tamper with my face and get BOTOX never, I'm what if, what 1090 01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:18,800 if it you show up on set? And my Liz is like, I'm like 1091 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,700 it's a character thing and it's like literally like you have 1092 01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:30,000 like tons of fillers. I really, I mean I'm like that 1093 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,100 was the one hard thing about watching. 1094 01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:35,300 I know we have to wrap this up. What watching Kroll Show was I 1095 01:00:35,308 --> 01:00:38,100 was like, oh, I was younger. Or like I don't have it. 1096 01:00:38,107 --> 01:00:40,800 I feel like I look fine. I love how I look in fact, but 1097 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,000 like I'm like, uh, it's different, you know, and like I 1098 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,900 like it's like I I only want to use my creams, you know. 1099 01:00:47,900 --> 01:00:49,800 Yeah. I only want to just if I get a 1100 01:00:49,808 --> 01:00:51,600 facial middle. Put that weird light on me or 1101 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,500 something. Yeah, when he's my creams, I do. 1102 01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:55,500 I just can't get anything put in my face. 1103 01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:57,100 I'm going to let my life cycle play out. 1104 01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:00,600 But sometimes you like, you're like squirt squirt oopsies. 1105 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,200 I saw that. I was younger and it did hurt my 1106 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,500 feelings. That actually, once I was 1107 01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:09,400 younger, Oh my God, but you know I know right? 1108 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,600 Come it is your skin looks great. 1109 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,600 And is fucking zester. No naked. 1110 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,300 I'm looking. Thank you that your skin. 1111 01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:19,900 I'm like, it looks good. It's a been a dependent. 1112 01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:22,600 Mine. I can't even tell you how fucked 1113 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,200 up. Truly, truly fucked up. 1114 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,800 My skin has been ever really sensitive skin from what I 1115 01:01:27,808 --> 01:01:29,100 remember? Crazy. 1116 01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:33,500 It's been a. It's been like crazy. 1117 01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:36,300 Oh, no, I'm sorry. Thank you. 1118 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:41,300 But it's getting better, but it's been truly like people. 1119 01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:43,600 I'm like talking about on my show a little bit, but like, 1120 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,900 it's not, it's just insane. It's insane. 1121 01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:51,500 If you feel any better, when I look at myself, now, I see a 1122 01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:54,100 flash of just Eli Wallach. Like, I feel like, I look 1123 01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:59,900 exactly like, Eli Wallach. I just, yeah, that's how, how 1124 01:01:59,900 --> 01:02:02,800 did you settle there? Because I saw a picture of him 1125 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,200 one time. And he was just like a really, 1126 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,700 really old Jewish person and I was Like, is there a difference? 1127 01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:13,600 If it's raining me. Another answer is he's not 1128 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,500 alive, right? If he's not know, if there's not 1129 01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:20,900 just please make a note to cut this out, if he's not dead, but 1130 01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:23,200 I think he did. Yeah, just cut it out. 1131 01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,300 We met Eli Wallach happily. Listen. 1132 01:02:25,300 --> 01:02:27,200 Oh my God, guys being like I was great. 1133 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,200 This is a great pot. Isn't that? 1134 01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:33,000 And then it just at the end. I think he'd be thrilled to hear 1135 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,300 that you guys look like. I mean, I love him. 1136 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,400 Yeah, I love him. I love him and Keeping the 1137 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,500 Faith. He's wonderful. 1138 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,600 Love that movie. No one ever talks about it. 1139 01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:46,600 I, it's weird that you're not in that movie as the male lead, is 1140 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,700 Ben Stiller, right? Yeah. 1141 01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:48,800 And Ed Norton. Yeah. 1142 01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:50,700 I was too. That's the thing talking about 1143 01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:53,400 how their businesses serving as the business has changed like 1144 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,700 that movie just does not get me. Absolutely not. 1145 01:02:55,700 --> 01:02:58,300 But that movie rules and in fact the way they shot the sex 1146 01:02:58,300 --> 01:02:59,900 scenes. I always loved that. 1147 01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:02,400 I haven't, I don't remember. I haven't I've That movie like 1148 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,900 maybe once they're really, it's really like a lot of like hand 1149 01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:08,300 up the thigh under the sheets like classy, but it is horny. 1150 01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:13,200 And like, I remember being like, that's what love making is that 1151 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,200 Ben, Stiller is doing to Jenna Elfman. 1152 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,600 Yeah. And of the thigh for them, I 1153 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,000 gotta go by I'll go back and watch it. 1154 01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:23,100 I like it. Well, that's a good way to end 1155 01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:25,400 it. If you guys, if you have time, 1156 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,500 go see Marcellus Shale shoes on but if not go, see Keeping the 1157 01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:31,600 Faith, get a DVD delivered to your house from by. 1158 01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:35,000 Except flicks will deliver a DVD to your house of that film 1159 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:40,000 unless it's not in the Netflix library, but I bet it's some you 1160 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,800 can stream it somewhere for sure. 1161 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,100 Right. Was your movie coming out? 1162 01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:47,100 How's your movie coming out in the theaters? 1163 01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:49,600 Great. When it comes out. 1164 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,900 June 24th. Oh great. 1165 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,300 Yeah. I'm so excited. 1166 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,500 I can't believe I have to wait. People have I have to wait three 1167 01:03:57,500 --> 01:04:00,700 months for people to see it. Yeah, I guess like I've been 1168 01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:03,500 waiting eight years or whatever. So it's a little more. 1169 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,600 Doesn't even feel like it's real anymore. 1170 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,500 Yeah, that it'll happen and I'm really really excited and I'm 1171 01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:14,700 also just to say like You know, really excited for Dean because 1172 01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:19,000 he's a genius and this is his first like giant thing. 1173 01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:25,000 Yeah, and I mean, my prediction is like, you know, he like, you 1174 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,300 know, like never see him. Again. 1175 01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:30,900 I'm begging for work from him after this, but he's just, he's 1176 01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:33,100 just a brilliant genius. You really? 1177 01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:39,100 Work is gorgeous. I agree, his it read it. 1178 01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:41,100 I totally agree. I mean, I've known him forever 1179 01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:45,000 through, you know, And but I watching this, you're like, this 1180 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,800 is a really unbelievably talented filmmaker. 1181 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,800 Yeah, who should. And will get a lot of accolades 1182 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,800 and work out of this because I think it's just a beautiful 1183 01:04:55,900 --> 01:05:00,200 sample of what he can do. So good to see you. 1184 01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:02,000 Really good outfit. No one can see it. 1185 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,800 But you have a great outfit to thank you, and we got to get our 1186 01:05:05,808 --> 01:05:09,800 babies together to fight my babies. 1187 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,000 Really kiss, you watch out my babies. 1188 01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:18,200 A slightly withholding he they've met briefly, but I 1189 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:22,300 really should get them. Get them on the playground on 1190 01:05:22,300 --> 01:05:26,800 the book. All right, bye-bye. 1191 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,800 Thank you. Thanks for listening. 1192 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,700 The 824 podcast is produced by us a 24 special. 1193 01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:39,900 Thanks to our editor Tom Wyatt and robot repair who composed 1194 01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:40,300 our theme.