1 00:00:03,100 --> 00:00:07,100 Hey and welcome back to the 824 podcast, Bay area, native Simon 2 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:09,500 Rex and Angus Cloud. Much more than just a HomeTown 3 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:12,000 in common earlier this month. Symington. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,400 It gets met for the first time to talk about their characters 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,800 and red rocket and Euphoria and their experiences. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,100 Hollywood Outsiders. Who never set out to be actors. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,400 Let alone become famous. We hope you enjoyed the episode 8 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:25,900 tune in Sunday for the Euphoria season 2 finale until everyone, 9 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:29,600 you know, to watch Red Rocket now available on demand, Angus, 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,500 what? Sup, man. 11 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:34,200 Nice to meet you with animal boy. 8:24 here. 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,900 We are doing the podcast and let's just talk some shit, bro. 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,200 I want to get to know you were both from the bay. 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,300 Let's start there, man. Let's chop it up. 15 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:45,900 Was get to it. So, you live here full-time. 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,600 Yeah, stay I stay in. LOL, just for work. 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,300 You know, how about you? You live in LA? 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,900 I'm in Joshua Tree. Okay, I've been there. 19 00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:56,900 Yeah. I've been camping out there. 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,500 Just come on some land. Yeah. 21 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:01,300 Yeah. And that's the way to go. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,599 I had been here 20 years. I was in New York, five years 23 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:06,800 moved here for 20 years from the bay. 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Originally you from the bay when part of the base. 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,600 So, okay, so I was born in San Francisco. 26 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:15,900 Okay, and then I moved to the East Bay when I was 11 because 27 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:18,400 my mom wanted me to get out of the city because this was in the 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,800 80s in San Francisco. He was kind of crazy. 29 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:23,500 So, we moved to Alameda. Right? 30 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:27,400 Right, right, you know, right next to Oakland and over there. 31 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,500 Yeah, Alameda school. It's kind of like, Chittering. 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,800 It's 50 feet from East Oakland. Basically. 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,400 Yeah, I mean most of the people from the bay hate on Alameda 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,800 just because the fucking you know, it's a lot of old money 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,900 out there. So it's like all these people 36 00:01:43,900 --> 00:01:46,000 are like you whole again. Yeah. 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Walking down my side. Yeah. 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,800 It's like that. It's like Piedmont or something, 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,600 you know, so you're from the bay. 40 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:53,800 Yeah. I'm from the bay. 41 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:55,100 What? Part Oakley? 42 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:56,600 So I grew up right next to the lake. 43 00:01:57,100 --> 00:02:03,500 Okay. Uh-huh, that's where we would go 44 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:07,300 to parties and go to crash like Cal Berkeley party. 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,300 It's crazy. I go back now. 46 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:12,200 And it's, like I said, true. It's a trip, dude. 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,100 It's kind of like, I feel the same thing when I go to San 48 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:15,600 Francisco. I'm like, well, this isn't my 49 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,800 hometown. This isn't where I grew up but 50 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,200 it's still home. I love old man, is crazy. 51 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,100 Because, like, when I, when I was going up there, it's like, 52 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:25,300 probably like the tallest building. 53 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:29,900 There's probably like 15 stories and like, now it's like every 54 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:33,100 time Each time I go back. It's another small as building, 55 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:37,400 and I got hotels over there and and it sucks to because my 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,500 Warriors moved to San Francisco. The Raiders went to Vegas 57 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:44,400 Oakland's losing, the one thing that it had which everyone 58 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,000 together. But we got Oakland Roots, man, 59 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:50,000 soccer team. Oh, wait, gotta bring you even 60 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,200 know about that. Yeah, it's pretty much. 61 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,600 It's pretty new, Auckland route, and we still got the ages. 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,400 You feel me? But the A's are moving. 63 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,500 I heard the Vegas. I heard. 64 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:01,700 They're Because they were going to try to build it. 65 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:04,200 I know made if we lose every sports team because they're 66 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,500 moving to Jack London Square, but then they can save this for 67 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:09,500 Cisco. Kind of an asshole for that. 68 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:12,000 They like, oh, you 10 y'all good now. 69 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,700 All right. We'll take y'all now. 70 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:16,900 We'll build y'all a nice, a stadium over here. 71 00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:19,800 Just come across the bridge and lost the magic. 72 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,800 I went there to check it out. I went to check out the new 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,900 stadium and just to see it because I'm like, all right. 74 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:28,500 I'm a die-hard Warriors fan. I was going to Warriors games in 75 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:32,000 1986. Now, seeing Oakland lose. 76 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,300 I mean that was like the heart of Auckland. 77 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,100 That's what everyone that was. I was there that when they when 78 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:44,200 they won the fucking shit bro, and the parade bro, the party in 79 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,000 the streets was fucking crazy, man. 80 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,400 I saw videos. Everyone was outside, man. 81 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,600 Yeah, at like Merit. Yep. 82 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,400 They just went around the lake. Yeah. 83 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,700 Yeah. There's Draymond Green got way 84 00:03:57,700 --> 00:03:59,800 too drunk. I saw the footage I want. 85 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:02,200 I was actually thinking about going up for it. 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,400 But I'm still a die-hard Warriors fan, even though 87 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,300 they're in San Francisco. But you write it lost the magic. 88 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,400 It's the same as the Raiders like that's that's cool Glenn, 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,400 dude. Yeah, but also out here, you got 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,899 a die-hard Raiders. I know all day so it's like I'm 91 00:04:16,899 --> 00:04:19,600 Still rocking for the Raiders. This is sucks. 92 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,300 You feel me? But, you know what I'm saying? 93 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:26,500 Come on now, like the Warriors, had the town on a jersey. 94 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:31,400 Like I know that you don't care. Erase that I know me. 95 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,100 Like that's the town. That's Oakland. 96 00:04:34,100 --> 00:04:36,100 You found me. They ain't gonna start saying 97 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:38,600 the city like I'm on that. I know. 98 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,700 Yeah. Oakland's always been San 99 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:43,200 Francisco's like little brother or whatever. 100 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,400 As far as like, you know get I mean the way when I was living 101 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,000 in New York and like people didn't know about the bay that 102 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,700 much I would just like kind of explain it like New York is like 103 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:57,200 the city or sorry. We call San Francisco the city 104 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,800 and we call Oakland in town so fine. 105 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,700 Making a comparison. It's like Manhattan. 106 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:06,200 Is it more like San Francisco? And in Oakland, is kind of more 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,800 like broke. That's exactly what I say all 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,400 the time to. That's exactly what it is. 109 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:14,600 And yeah, so I lived in New York for like five years 93 to 98. 110 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,700 This is when New York was still kind of wild. 111 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:19,400 This was pre Giuliani. So it was still felt like the 112 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,100 80s. It was lawless and it's kind of 113 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:23,100 like now I go back to New York now and it kind of feels like 114 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:26,100 that again like it's dangerous again, and I kind of like it you 115 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:29,000 got your head on a swivel. No, you know out there for a 116 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,500 bit. I was definitely on my on my ten 117 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:36,000 toes you filming. So did you live in Brooklyn? 118 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,800 Yeah, man, I was living in I was actually living in project 119 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,000 building. The Walt Whitman house is right 120 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 at Fort Greene Park. Uh-huh. 121 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:49,800 And now it was cool because like I moved in there with somebody 122 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,800 that had been, you know grew up over there. 123 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,700 So he had walked me around all the blocks and make sure 124 00:05:55,700 --> 00:05:58,300 everybody knew I was validated and whatnot. 125 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:01,900 You know I'm saying. So everybody was actually 126 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:05,600 everybody was super cool with me and the community and and the 127 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,100 project is is super dope. You know, we all be kicking it 128 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:13,700 in the hallway and whatnot. I was I was running a business 129 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:18,400 that I was like, I don't need I don't need no trouble with with 130 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,700 this. I think it's time for me to move 131 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:23,000 along, you know, and I'm saying, you're selling weed or 132 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,500 something. Yeah, it's something like like 133 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:30,700 it at that. So, okay, so Did you move to New 134 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:36,300 York? And I only have been like 17? 135 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:41,300 I think I just I had to leave Oakland cuz I didn't want to 136 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:45,800 deal with something and I just never went back as ended up. 137 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,700 Staying you feeling? Yeah, I did the same thing. 138 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:52,400 I moved to New York when I was like 19 for five years. 139 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:53,900 And that was the most fun I ever had. 140 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:55,600 In. My life was moving to New York 141 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:59,200 because the bay is crazy because the bay and if you haven't been 142 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,800 there, you don't know. The bay is the New York of the 143 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,300 West Coast. Like there's not really any 144 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:05,500 cities in catalyst is like La is not a city. 145 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:07,500 There's no like I mean could go downtown but it doesn't have 146 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:11,800 like an herb is to spread out. The bay is its own world man. 147 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,200 We got our own slang. We got her own music from, you 148 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:15,800 know what? I mean? 149 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Like it's it's own thing and if people don't know, they don't 150 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,000 know. But if you go to the baby, you 151 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,600 know, it's got then you got these, like, random people out 152 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,900 in the, in the cuts that are like super in the like baby 153 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:31,600 music and shit. Yeah, I'm saying. 154 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Yeah, it's to this day Mac Dre Too Short on now like yeah, and 155 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,700 then yeah, it's crazy cuz the bay is really its own universe 156 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:45,200 and then you hear the influence its had on music like, you know, 157 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:48,600 like mustard took that hyphae sound and made it like 158 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,400 mainstream but really that was all that, you know, keep the 159 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,100 sneak all that shit started in Oakland really are Vallejo 160 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:56,400 Oakland. Yeah. 161 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,500 Yeah. It didn't we don't really get 162 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:05,300 the credit that we That's true. So, so you're in La now? 163 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:07,000 Yeah, man. Yeah. 164 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,700 I'm just just chilling in Koreatown. 165 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:13,800 Yeah, I'll just stay at the house for the most part. 166 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,500 Yeah, you know, I like Koreatown, man, you know why I 167 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:18,500 like Koreatown? Because you walk around and is 168 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:21,000 not Hollywood. There's no, you're not going to 169 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,900 get recognized as much walking around Korea Town, but you walk 170 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:26,700 around this neighborhood. You're gonna get probably cars 171 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:28,100 rolling. By was that is he 172 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:45,900 I mean, that's hard to beat. I just go there all the time for 173 00:08:46,100 --> 00:08:47,900 my boy. I stay without here. 174 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:49,600 He lives, five minutes from Crete down. 175 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,500 So I'm always going over there to get my Korean barbecue, 176 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:54,600 whatever. They just got the best food. 177 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,700 Now, we shop at the Korean supermarket and roommates are 178 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:03,000 Korea said, oh, yeah. That's so people listed. 179 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,200 We just met, I never met you before. 180 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:07,100 I don't know because I've listened to this podcast. 181 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:08,700 And usually it's like old friends. 182 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:11,700 Like Seth. Rogen with his boy dog, but we 183 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:14,600 just met, but anytime I meet someone from the bay. 184 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,600 It's automatically on God. It really that's like last 185 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,600 night. I just I just like seeing this 186 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,100 fool and I was like some about it. 187 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:28,100 May I just like, what's up man? I was like where you from? 188 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:31,400 He's like from I'm from the bay. A, I was like, hey, that's what 189 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,100 stop playing. We out here. 190 00:09:33,100 --> 00:09:36,800 I already knew you was cool as automatic because you can just, 191 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,400 you can just sometimes tell about his swag on somebody where 192 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,800 you are. They from the bay. 193 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,100 Yeah, it's okay. So you're Irish. 194 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:47,500 We got family in Ireland, had never been Ireland, but I want 195 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:48,900 to go. I heard it's amazing. 196 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:51,700 I heard it's beautiful that. It's so beautiful, bro. 197 00:09:51,700 --> 00:09:52,900 You gotta. I gotta go. 198 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:55,800 Everybody says that I got to go check out Ireland. 199 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,000 So you're 100% Irish my mom. Pop's is an immigrant. 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,200 You feel me? He is a farmer and whatnot. 201 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,100 So he got his sister, my aunties and all my cousins are out 202 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:08,700 there. My mom. 203 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:13,400 She's kind of her family used to be like sharecroppers in Texas 204 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,300 and shit. So you never did the 23andMe. 205 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:18,000 I just did it to find out what I am. 206 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:20,400 I'm kind of interested when I do it. 207 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,800 I'm time. I'm like, I don't want them to 208 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,600 sell my fucking DNA. Oh, yeah. 209 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,600 Okay. See I don't care. 210 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,000 They can clone me if they want. We I need they could have 211 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,500 another meal. It's all good. 212 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:33,600 But who knows? What they might, you know, 213 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,000 figure out what to do with that shit and in the next couple 214 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,200 years, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and a lot of my friends 215 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,300 said that but I'm like, man. Sure, they probably already have 216 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:47,800 my DNA, so it's like, it's like one thing to say like, oh, we 217 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,700 like, they're listening to us. Like, really these covid shots 218 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:54,500 have trackers. It's like, bro. 219 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:57,000 You have iPhone, bro. Don't get. 220 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,300 It is listening to all day every day. 221 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,200 Don't even get him started. Tracking every single movement 222 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,900 and making a whole log of every place you ever been there. 223 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:10,500 How long you spent there? So yeah, if you got an iPhone, 224 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:14,100 don't talk about shit, you know, you're right. 225 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:16,100 It's funny. You said that because I we all 226 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:18,400 got those homies who would go way too deep. 227 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,700 Down the rabbit hole. I just heard this comedian. 228 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:22,400 Jim Gaffigan do a joke about that. 229 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,400 He's like we all had that one friend who's like Bigfoots real 230 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:29,600 and in the pandemic hit in there like Tom Hanks eats babies you 231 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:33,000 Like chill there. Microchipping us chill. 232 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,900 I feel like it goes too deep. Yeah, like lost family members 233 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:42,600 falling out with all that shit. Like it's just cuz fucking like 234 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:45,100 you get into those conspiracies series. 235 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:48,700 Fuck their believable, man. They give you some good reasons 236 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:52,100 to believe in that shit. Like you watch the 911 shit. 237 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:53,900 You're like, whoa. Okay. 238 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:56,900 This is a little bit. Something's not adding up here, 239 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:59,600 but like most of those conspiracy. 240 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,500 Two aren't based on any fact, you know, but if you're watching 241 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:08,300 that video is like is made for you to believe that shit. 242 00:12:08,300 --> 00:12:11,900 So if you get sucked into it and you don't care about doing your 243 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:15,900 own, you know, background research, you going to get, get 244 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:19,200 lost in the sauce in the head. You feel like it's so true, man, 245 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,000 because there is a look, that's the problem. 246 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 There's a little bit of Truth and then that's what gets you in 247 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,400 the door and then on the news, they're not basing should all 248 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,600 unite. Do you know that? 249 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:32,300 Just saying shit. That's why it's just a waste of 250 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:34,000 energy. I see people putting way too 251 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,300 much time and energy into that. She does like bro. 252 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:40,100 Just enjoy your life wouldn't you know, but yeah, that's been 253 00:12:40,100 --> 00:12:43,900 like man. I lost friends to that shit. 254 00:12:43,900 --> 00:12:46,400 Like they went too deep that it's like I can't be around them 255 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,400 constantly acting like they got all the answers. 256 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,400 I want to be around people asking questions not yelling 257 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,900 answers from the internet. Like they watched a YouTube 258 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,500 video, some dude made in his basement. 259 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:58,700 That's what you're going to believe out of the. 260 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:02,800 It's just kind of Ignorance, you know, so it's like you can't 261 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,700 always blame shoot people for being ignorant. 262 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:06,800 They don't know what they don't know. 263 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Yeah, you know, it's like fuck and at the end of the day to 264 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,800 what it is I think is that they actually are coming from a place 265 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,400 of like they, they're trying to do something good there, trying 266 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,300 to like, you know, be enlightened or share with you 267 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:23,300 what they found. So their intentions aren't bad. 268 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:26,400 They just lost and I think this last two years people just run 269 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,400 the internet way too much went down. 270 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,200 The rabbit hole didn't come. I'm out. 271 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,600 I've been talking a lot about that with just intentions and 272 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,400 shit. Just like a lot of people that 273 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,900 end up fucking in a bad situation. 274 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:41,800 Like it's not like they were in their mind thinking. 275 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:47,000 Oh, I'm about to do this fucking take advantage of this situation 276 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,900 and do this bad thing. They just, you know, they they 277 00:13:50,900 --> 00:13:54,000 didn't even think they were doing anything wrong, you know, 278 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,800 they didn't have, you know what I'm saying? 279 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,000 They were just ignorant or oblivious or whatever the case 280 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,900 may be. Yeah, you know, a lot of a lot 281 00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:08,800 of people do fucked up shit that they had no idea that, you know, 282 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:10,900 they didn't mean to do it right now. 283 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:13,500 That's exactly right. Sometimes, they even thought 284 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:15,000 they might have been doing a good thing. 285 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:17,900 That's exactly what it is. That's why you can't be mad and 286 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:19,200 because really, it's not their fault. 287 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,100 It's these people pumping the bullshit on the internet, but I 288 00:14:22,108 --> 00:14:23,600 don't know why. I just thought it was, but I got 289 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,400 a question for you because you probably are, how long has have 290 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,300 have you been famous a couple is just the first You did was you 291 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:31,800 for you. Is this your first acting? 292 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Yeah, so you just got thrown into the biggest show on TV. 293 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:38,000 I've been in this business 25 years and I still have a hard 294 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,600 time dealing with Fame. Like it, fucks your head up and 295 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,400 I've been in therapy for years and but no therapist could 296 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,100 understand what it's like to be famous, right? 297 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:48,900 And deal with the energy that comes at you and not knowing, 298 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:51,200 who's really your friend, or who wants something from you in, 299 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,200 l.a. Is such a transactional deal. 300 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,400 How you dealing with the fame? Because it fuck. 301 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:58,300 I mean, you just seem like a real cat and you never asked for 302 00:14:58,300 --> 00:14:59,400 this. Yeah. 303 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,700 I'm To be completely honest with you. 304 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:04,000 I don't I don't I don't want to be famous. 305 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,500 I do me either. It's no it's not. 306 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:10,800 I want to I want to be a regular person and have regular 307 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,500 interactions with people and it's something about Fame and 308 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:20,300 notoriety just you lose that, you know, I don't like it but it 309 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:23,700 comes with it's like there's good and bad to what we do and I 310 00:15:23,708 --> 00:15:26,300 never asked for it either. I got this found me. 311 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:28,100 I was never like I want to be an actor. 312 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:29,900 It fell in my lap, right? Right. 313 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:32,900 Gus Van Sant is famous director. He saw me was like you want to 314 00:15:32,908 --> 00:15:35,200 be in a movie. He understand me for Good, Will 315 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,700 Hunting. I bombed the audition. 316 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:39,000 He's like you're not ready to be an actor but go to acting 317 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,100 school. So so it just came to me. 318 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:43,500 I never would dream or be delusional enough to. 319 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:47,900 Like I want to be famous. I would so much, rather meet 320 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,200 somebody who was famous and have no idea. 321 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,700 They were fucking famous because it changed the way you interact 322 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:57,500 with them. So I would much rather have 323 00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:59,500 interaction with someone that doesn't know. 324 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:02,500 Who the fuck I am? Then someone that does. 325 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:05,300 And then the other part comes in when you say you feel like it's 326 00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:06,800 fake. And then you're you're 327 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,500 questioning every fucking interaction. 328 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:12,600 Like is this real is this fake was their motives? 329 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,200 Like I'm fucking I'm fucking like paranoid now, bro. 330 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,700 Like I feel like everybody knows who I am. 331 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:24,300 They do even if they even it like I know it's fucked up now 332 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:26,300 because like, yeah, no, it's fun. 333 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:29,500 It's fucks me up to like you'll see someone like on their phone. 334 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,700 And you like you like are they looking at their Instagram? 335 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:34,100 Because it's kind of pointed out mean I could tell and then the 336 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:35,200 flash goes off. You like. 337 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,000 Yep, and then you're like, oh just ask me bro, like convince 338 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,300 yourself you like? No, they don't know. 339 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:42,400 And then they go and they proved you like. 340 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:46,900 Oh my God, uh-huh. So your what's it been two years 341 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:48,100 since you've been doing the show? 342 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:50,500 Two years. How long has it been cake came 343 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:54,000 out. So we filmed a pilot 2018 and it 344 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,600 came out around 2019. So you've been dealing with Fame 345 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,500 during the pandemic, you had musulega. 346 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:01,600 He spinning do because I can't even imagine. 347 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,300 I'm 25 years in this shit and I'm still like weirded out by. 348 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:07,000 I don't think it's gonna go away a weird. 349 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,800 It up. Like even by the fact that like 350 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,700 people knowing my my name is yeah, it's weird. 351 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:16,000 What, how do you know my name? Yeah, it's weird. 352 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:19,800 I mean, I don't know if I was gonna say like, being a lot 353 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,200 older than you. I would give you some advice, 354 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,400 but I'm actually like, how do you deal with it? 355 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,000 Because, I don't know how to deal with it still. 356 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,500 It's been it. I don't know. 357 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:31,100 I feel like people Don't want to hear this shit, you know, 358 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:35,000 they're like, what do you mean like, you're fucking living the 359 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,300 dream right? Now? 360 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:40,000 You know what I'm saying? Like, well, we all got what what 361 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,900 what what could you possibly have to complain about? 362 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:46,500 And it's like, all right is is would you rather be? 363 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,700 You know what I'm saying? Rich and paranoid that everyone 364 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:54,100 in your life is being fake towards you. 365 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:58,200 Or would you, you know, just be regular and just say, you know 366 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,400 what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, you 367 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,600 know, because money and fame. Don't I learned what? 368 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,900 He was one thing? I'll share with you and you 369 00:18:04,908 --> 00:18:07,100 probably already know. This is like money and fame. 370 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:09,900 They don't make you happy everyone thinks that but that's 371 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:12,400 a trap. You know, it's just like you'll 372 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,400 get stuck in that make. You want to believe, you know, 373 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,100 you don't I learned one thing because I really hadn't been 374 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:21,300 working in the last 10 years. I was not making a lot of money 375 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:23,000 and I'll tell you what, in the last 10 years. 376 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,700 When I wasn't working in this business and I was barely making 377 00:18:25,700 --> 00:18:28,100 money. I think I was actually happier 378 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:31,600 when I didn't have a lot. I was just making enough to eat 379 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,900 good travel, whatever. No doubt about it, broke it. 380 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:38,800 And I was fine. And then, and then with, you 381 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,800 know, with the all the eyeballs on you and nowadays with social 382 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,700 media and just the, it's just like, you never heard it would 383 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:48,400 lack. The people, the image that 384 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:54,300 people have of you like right now like they got me like pretty 385 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:58,200 much famous as fuck real. Like I bought an old car. 386 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,800 I'm by no. Xever me like, you know what I'm 387 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,600 saying? Like, we hopefully get into the 388 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,100 paper after this. Yeah, but I'm saying but it 389 00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:12,400 just, it just funny that way. Then, like, everyone thinks I'm 390 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,700 probably balling. Now, you know, I'm saying? 391 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:17,300 Living the high life. Like now, I'm just your living 392 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:24,400 in Korea Town with a roommate. One, two, three, four, five of 393 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,800 us. Living in the sea. 394 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,300 That actually keeps you grounded. 395 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:30,800 I'm still dry. I'm Driving a thirty thousand 396 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,700 dollar car. I live in a 600 square foot, 397 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:37,000 grab out in the desert. I mean, it's all good. 398 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,100 I don't want people listen to this to think we're complaining. 399 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:40,900 We're not knowledge. And we're blessed. 400 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:46,200 It's a blessing, but it's a curse to a head. 401 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,900 Fuck, bro. It's a fucking if you're just 402 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:50,100 like a norm. I feel like I'm just a normal 403 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:51,000 dude. From the bay. 404 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,300 I don't like being treated special, me neither as fake as 405 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:57,200 fake and people are extra. Nice. 406 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,500 Now to what I'm noticing tools, like people are overly nice. 407 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,900 To me. I'm like, you don't gotta do 408 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:01,800 that. It's all good. 409 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,900 Just like, it makes me feel uncomfortable. 410 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:06,000 But it's funny. My publicist is here with me and 411 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,500 they're doing an amazing job at getting me out there and getting 412 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:13,100 me like, you know, notoriety and they're doing a great job of it. 413 00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:16,200 And that's kind of a necessary thing for us to do what we do. 414 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,400 But at the same time, part of the heat, the heat is like 415 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,400 sometimes a lot and sometimes I just sit there in the hotel room 416 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,100 and I got to go isolate by myself because it's so much. 417 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:29,900 Is that you never it's one of those jobs, where you You know, 418 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:32,900 you don't, you don't really clock out, you know, not. 419 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:36,900 It never ends in like, and then, man, I find myself spending so 420 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:39,200 much time alone. Because if you're I'm like, I 421 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,100 think I'm I'm not saying this is a good thing. 422 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:44,700 It's like embarrassing. But like I'm too sensitive. 423 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:48,300 Like, I could feel energy on people and like, so if you feel 424 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:51,700 that, if you're an empath line, you just take that on, it'll 425 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:54,100 drain the fuck out of you. So, sometimes I go out and I 426 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:56,900 deal with all this shit and then I'm just like, I gotta go be by 427 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:58,800 myself from it. I just go sit in a room by 428 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,200 myself. And I'm like, is this normal? 429 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Am I going crazy? What the fuck is this? 430 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,900 You know. Anyway, so it's for you, man. 431 00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:10,500 You'll get your paper. But man, it's a trip fames. 432 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:13,800 A weird thing, Fame, is a mask that eats away at the soul. 433 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,700 Is that what they say? I think there's some saying like 434 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:18,800 that because it does row. So, anyway, I feel like you're 435 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,400 going to keep a good head on your shoulders. 436 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,200 You just seem like a cool cat. Like, I'm just here, man. 437 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,400 I'm just, I'm just rolling with the punches. 438 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,500 You know what I'm saying? We'll see. 439 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:31,500 But, you know, all the, all the, All the all the fans and have 440 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:33,000 showed mad. Love you feel me? 441 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,300 It's come say what's up. If you see me holler at me and 442 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:41,500 I'm saying this all of you know, I'm saying and I love my job, 443 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:46,500 just the best shit that it's the best job I ever had for show. 444 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,200 You fill me in on, how did they find you for this show? 445 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,600 I think someone told me you were in Brooklyn and someone just 446 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,500 rolled up on you and kind of Street cast you. 447 00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:57,300 Is that how you got the job? Yeah, so I was just walking down 448 00:21:57,300 --> 00:21:59,400 the street with my homies and this. 449 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,400 Woman Eleanor. Hendrix, I believe is her name. 450 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:06,400 She came up to me. She said you want. 451 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:10,200 Can I talk to you? I was like, you gotta walk with 452 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:16,900 me, you know, so she she spit her little pitch and I ended up 453 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:23,400 going down to her, Studio door. Jennifer vendetti, stay V8, 454 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,700 casting studio. And then like, they asked me 455 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:29,400 some questions. They filmed like my answers. 456 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:33,200 Is just random questions like about my life and shit and then 457 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,500 they had me do a couple auditions, you know, and then 458 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,200 addition in front of like some of the producers or whatever, 459 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,900 and then that was it like for the pilot man, so you never went 460 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:49,600 to acting school. No, that's so dope. 461 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,200 That's so do II. Did I have been to a couple 462 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,000 classes for sure after the fact? Yeah. 463 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,500 Yeah, and they send you. They were like go to acting 464 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:02,400 school or do you just do it? No. 465 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,500 No, it was kind of like something. 466 00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:06,900 I was, I should probably do this. 467 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:12,500 You know that fool Shia LaBeouf was doing like a free community 468 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:16,500 class at some school and in South Central, I think it was a 469 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:20,200 South Central but I went to go check that out in the 470 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,600 amphitheater for a little bit. I never met him but he's in my 471 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,200 favorite movie which one? Hold on. 472 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,400 Never seen it. So yeah, kind of sinks it up. 473 00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:31,200 To me man. I got called out. 474 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,100 I went to these acting school in New York and I was just like 475 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:36,700 driving want to do this but it just fell in my lap. 476 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:39,900 And I mean I guess it's better than digging ditches. 477 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,200 I can I mean I you know, I worked in Emeryville at a potato 478 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,000 sack Factory. I was driving a forklift in 1989 479 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,000 in Emeryville at a potato, sack factory making $10 an hour. 480 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,700 And at the same time I was doing telemarketing where this is back 481 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:58,700 before the internet, where you just open a phone book and start 482 00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:00,600 cold calling. Selling life insurance. 483 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,500 I was working for State Farm Life Insurance and at a potato 484 00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:06,500 sack factory making pennies so fuck. 485 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,100 Yeah, medulla is what what year was it? 486 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:13,200 This was 89? No, this was denied 92. 92 is 487 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,000 when I worked at the potato sack Factory. 488 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:21,600 Before I started this acting like I was getting a 750 our at 489 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,400 the Waffle House, bro. 750. Yeah. 490 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,000 It was like seven feet and I guess I was longing for 10 491 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,800 bucks. Wait, where's the Waffle House? 492 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,700 At its is is closed now, but it was on Bushwick. 493 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,100 You told me you're not the chain. 494 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:40,300 No, not Waffle House. So it was like a one-off. 495 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:42,100 Okay, I was pictures. It was crazy. 496 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:45,700 It was like a club and there would be fucking it was open 497 00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:47,800 till 11:00 a.m. To 4:00 a.m. 498 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,700 Like there would be fights every day is she was ratchet as fuck. 499 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:53,600 You like me. Like yeah. 500 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,800 DJs and it was, it was crazy. Wow, that's dope. 501 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Um, but yeah, Fighting 750 our fuck that. 502 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,600 Fuck that. So wait, that was just a cup. 503 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,300 That was just a few years ago. How could you how you gonna live 504 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:09,300 off of that? That's crazy shit. 505 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:10,900 I was making it happen. Yeah. 506 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:16,500 Yeah, that's the bay and you do decide hustle, man. 507 00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:18,600 You can't help. But have the hustling, you, if 508 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,200 you're fine, two jobs. I was working at a vegan 509 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,100 Pizzeria for a second. They all hated me because I was 510 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:27,000 not vegan. Ha ha. 511 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:31,200 I went in like the first day and all Like some are the only vegan 512 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,500 I'm vegan and they're like, yeah, she should I not have said 513 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:42,300 that stay for the show. Judge the fuck out of here. 514 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,900 Yeah, like no disrespect to you, but it's just like, you know, 515 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:48,300 better than you know what I mean? 516 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,500 That's the only thing that bothers me is like dude, shut 517 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:54,300 up. So you guys shooting right now. 518 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,800 You finished shooting. Yeah, you got any? 519 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,200 I bet you're getting offers right. 520 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,500 Other movie roles their, get sending you. 521 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:04,100 Yeah. Yeah. 522 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,900 Stuff coming in. Yep, trying to find the right 523 00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:08,700 thing. You know, I'm saying funny how 524 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:11,600 life works because there's so many people in l.a. who came 525 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,200 here with the dream and it falls in your lap, and now you're just 526 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,200 getting offers and you can walk outside right now and spit and 527 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,100 find someone who would kill to be in your position, but I feel 528 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:22,900 bad about it. I know right? 529 00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:28,100 You know, I've like fuck man. A lot of I mean it is actors. 530 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,700 They just their whole life. They just is their dream, most 531 00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:33,800 actor. They just wanted it for that 532 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,700 whole life. You know, what I'm saying? 533 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:41,400 Is they're full passion and that's just not the case for me. 534 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,900 You know what I'm saying? Like, I love doing it. 535 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:48,400 I have a great time, you know, but I do feel bad for the people 536 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,100 that have been like spending like that all day time and money 537 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:56,300 like fucking trying to make It, you know what I'm saying, like 538 00:26:56,300 --> 00:27:02,000 fuck then and and the the the fact is that they possibly could 539 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,500 be good or bad as good or better actor than me, but they just 540 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,800 haven't got the chance to you know, you know saying it's hard 541 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000 to get that little toe in the door. 542 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,200 You know, that's you know, it's, you're absolutely right because 543 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,000 there's so few seats at the table in Hollywood and there's 544 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:22,100 everyone's trying to get there and there's so many talented 545 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,700 cats. That just won't catch that 546 00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:25,700 break. It's not fair. 547 00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:27,600 It's like going to Vegas. It's like going to Vegas and be 548 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,600 like, I'm gonna hit the lotto. I'm gonna hit the jackpot. 549 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,500 It's like yeah, you and everyone else, bro. 550 00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:33,100 Good luck. It's a lottery, dude. 551 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:35,500 It's a lottery and it's a lot of who, you know, right from your 552 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:39,400 case right time, right place. So I do feel bad, because I go 553 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,000 to these. I've been acting classes and 554 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,300 it's all they want. And sometimes in life the less 555 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:44,600 you want it. The more it comes to you. 556 00:27:44,608 --> 00:27:48,600 That's what women money work. When you want it too bad, it you 557 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,300 gotta let go and let that shit. Just something. 558 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:53,900 I actually work with the DP, on my movie, Red Rocket, Drew 559 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:56,200 Daniels. He'd shot a couple of your 560 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,500 episodes. You might not remember. 561 00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,400 No, no, no. No, I do remember the homie. 562 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,200 Yeah, he's hella cool. He's the man and you guys shoot 563 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,900 on 4 June even know. Do you shoot on film? 564 00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,600 Because yeah, we shot on season two is on. 565 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,600 So that's it makes it difficult even like fucking like took some 566 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,800 dead stock code action, like remade it for just for the just 567 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,100 for us to use on that you got I don't think you realize man. 568 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,900 How lucky you got it to shoot on film like man in this day and 569 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:24,800 age. That's so rare. 570 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,500 That's why even me doing red rocket. 571 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:27,900 It was shot on 16. Mm! 572 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:31,600 Drew Daniel shot. It and that doesn't happen all 573 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,200 the time. Bro. 574 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,800 That's like some Scorsese Tarantino shit. 575 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,700 Like not a lot of people get to shoot on film doing and it looks 576 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,700 so much better, dude, you notice the difference because like to 577 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:44,500 the average eye you might not notice but it does make a 578 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:46,500 difference man. They should look sexy. 579 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:48,300 It's like vinyl. It's like the same thing as 580 00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:50,400 listening to vinyl. It's got that warmth to it as 581 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,900 opposed to an MP3 It's just sex. You think that like because I 582 00:28:54,908 --> 00:28:58,300 don't have that much to compare to but like, is there a 583 00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:01,500 different vibe on the set when you shooting with film? 584 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:05,000 Because it's like you don't want to like waste time or something 585 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,300 or anything like that cause you know what I'm saying? 586 00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:08,800 You don't want to burn because it's expensive. 587 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,000 Fuck. Yeah, it makes a huge 588 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,400 difference. Like I felt that pressure the 589 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,700 whole time. I'm like, oh we're shooting on 590 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:15,300 film. Oh, I got to get these lines 591 00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,700 right because I don't want to be wasting your money. 592 00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:20,400 Like is that big difference on digital? 593 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,700 Shoot the fuck out of here? Film? 594 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,200 You better get this. So yes, it makes a Different but 595 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,900 I kind of like the pressure. I didn't really think about it. 596 00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:32,300 Maybe has been on you for you. You didn't think about it. 597 00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:36,400 But I mean, I'm sure they could afford it and if they gave you 598 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,700 some Kodak film, you're chilling. 599 00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:41,100 But like it does make a difference man, and nobody's 600 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:42,500 really shooting on film these days. 601 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:46,400 So I loved it. I loved the sound when they have 602 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,600 to reload the hollows out. Yeah, check the gate. 603 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:53,900 Yeah. Manju Daniels is amazing dude. 604 00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:55,900 I think he shot. I don't know if he shot season 605 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,400 2. I just remember when he came on 606 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,600 to Red Rocket. Everyone's like, oh he shot. 607 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,600 You fought. That was like his thing. 608 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,900 And everybody was like, loving him because he shot the show 609 00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:07,900 looks beautiful. I actually been, I got to be 610 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:09,700 real. I'm late to the party. 611 00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:12,100 I just watched because I knew we were going to do this. 612 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:15,000 I'm I'm weird man. If I find out it shows a hit. 613 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,700 I got this weird thing in me where I'm like, I don't want to 614 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:19,400 watch it. It's a big hit and then I will 615 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,100 started watching it and I was like, I'm a dick, It's fucking 616 00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,700 amazing. And so I watched the first two 617 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:27,600 episodes. Sounds of season one at 8:24. 618 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,700 They're like no watch episode 1 season 2. 619 00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:33,600 So you could see fez's storyline a little bit more. 620 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,100 So when you guys hang out, you have a semblance of your 621 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,800 character and I didn't want to skip ahead because I want to 622 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,800 watch it in order, but it went right to your grandma rolling 623 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,800 into the strip club. And I was like that. 624 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,600 I'm like and I'm like, all right, I'm fully onboard. 625 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,300 So now I'm going back. I just watched mine just the way 626 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,700 it's shot. Everything is on dollies. 627 00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:59,100 He's moving shots. Like it's so beautifully made, 628 00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:02,500 you know, even if you don't appreciate the stories, no, 629 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:04,500 you're right. And all my like, my, real 630 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:09,500 Hollywood writer director, movie nerds there, like your trip, and 631 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,700 this shows incredibly shot. It's incredibly active. 632 00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:15,700 It's dope. And I fought it for a minute, 633 00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,700 but I'm always wrong. That's one thing I always do is, 634 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,100 I'm wrong. Like, I'll be like, man. 635 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:21,600 Everyone's watching it. I don't want to watch that shit 636 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,400 and then I'm watching, like, I'm a dick. 637 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,600 I've been missing this shit. But it's, it's cool, man. 638 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,600 So now I'm going back to season one because I don't want, I 639 00:31:29,608 --> 00:31:32,200 didn't want to watch too much on that first episode with your 640 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600 store and I'm like, no, I want to watch this in order but dude. 641 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:39,100 Grandma is heavy man. You don't don't watch it all in 642 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,700 one night. You feel like no, right. 643 00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:43,600 You got to take it in little bite-size pieces, but I just 644 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,600 love like the whole shit with with your grandma. 645 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,800 Just looking up in the strip club, rolling in there, shooting 646 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000 homey, and the thighs. And then just the whole shit. 647 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,100 It looks like it fell. Out like a man. 648 00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:59,200 It felt like some Good Fellows. She like a Tarantino movie, you 649 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,100 know, a lot of inspiration. Yeah, kind of stuff. 650 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Yeah. I can't wait to dive into it. 651 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,200 A little more. You think there was inspiration 652 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,400 and behind Red Rocket. Oh, what's up? 653 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,700 The director. Shaun Baker was really inspired 654 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:16,000 by these Italian 70s sex comedies. 655 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,600 I don't know if you've seen red rocket yet, but it's basically I 656 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,700 play Like a drug-dealing Porn Star. 657 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:28,100 Yeah, and if but the burnt-out versions So, yeah, Sean was 658 00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,400 like, it's a comedy. I mean, it is a, it's a dark 659 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,800 comedy, but it is a comedy and it was very inspired which I do. 660 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,100 I'm not familiar with this. I'm starting to learn a lot 661 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,700 about like, Italian Cinema and even the poster was like, made 662 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,500 after 60s and 70s, Italian sex comedies. 663 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,800 It's like a genre of movies. That's really. 664 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,900 Yeah. It's like sexually charged but 665 00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:52,700 funny and they don't they don't really make a lot of movies like 666 00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:54,600 that anymore, especially since my characters. 667 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,700 Like a bad piece of shit person, you know, I grew up watching, 668 00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:02,400 Taxi Driver Bad Lieutenant shows where the movies where the lead 669 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,200 character, is a horrible person and they don't do it that much 670 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600 anymore. So I loved it because I want to 671 00:33:07,608 --> 00:33:09,700 play a piece of shit. I don't want to play the fucking 672 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:11,200 cookie cutter. Dad on everything. 673 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,500 I want to be a fucking scumbag. Like it's like sometimes though. 674 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:19,900 It's like the something about the scumbag that like, you can't 675 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:23,000 just hate him all the way. You know, I'm saying. 676 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Yeah, exactly. That's what What we tried to 677 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,900 pull off, which was you want to root for him a little bit. 678 00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:30,400 Otherwise after two hours of sitting in front of the movie. 679 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,100 Give me like, why do I why would I care? 680 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,500 What happens to this is. So that was the whole point. 681 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,700 Was we wanted to make it like you're rooting for this piece of 682 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,600 shit and it kind of holds the mirror up to the audience. 683 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,800 Like why am I rooting for this? Do what I do. 684 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,200 The he's just surviving. He's just hustling, you know, 685 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,600 yeah. Yeah, man, but it's indeed. 686 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,300 Think. Did you think he had bad 687 00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:52,300 intentions behind? Like the city was doing some to 688 00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:54,400 bring a circular? You know, that's a good 689 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,300 question. And that's how I keep saying 690 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:57,900 this. When I do press for the movie. 691 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,200 He doesn't and that's why you can root for him because he 692 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,300 doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't have, but he's just 693 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,200 hustling and surviving and he's doing, he's on autopilot. 694 00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,100 He's not meaning to do this shit to people, he's just doing it so 695 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:12,500 that way the audience is like, okay, I could be on board with 696 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,800 this dude for a minute because he doesn't mean it and that's 697 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,699 exactly. I'm glad you brought that up. 698 00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:19,699 It is full circle is all about intention. 699 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,600 And yeah, he's just hustling. He kind of relates to my 700 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,600 character. Are you for? 701 00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:28,000 To because he does a bunch of fucked up shit. 702 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,000 But like he doesn't want to, he's kind of he's forced to, you 703 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,199 know, so it's like, it does. It doesn't necessarily make him 704 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,800 a bad person, you know, if if you hungry, you might have to 705 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,900 fucking steal some food, you know what I'm saying? 706 00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:47,300 And it's your and your circle, it's cool that they actually 707 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:50,600 went to your backstory season 2 because then you see you as a 708 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,300 kid and you're watching your grandma. 709 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,600 Knock a do that with a crowbar or fucking car. 710 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,100 Coffee shop or whatever and you're like and you're just 711 00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,900 watching you as a kid. Take it all in. 712 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:00,300 It's like, all right. There it is. 713 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,600 I mean, I think they and I might be wrong about this but they say 714 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,800 like your personality is molded in like your first zero to eight 715 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,500 years of your life. So if you're a little kid 716 00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:13,500 watching that shit happen, your that's going to be you and it's 717 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:17,100 going to be hard to change. So you grew up in that world. 718 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:20,000 So that's just going to be you, you know, exactly man. 719 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,800 That's that's the thing where people People don't give a pass 720 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,200 or like they don't give any room for the different, the different 721 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,100 Lifestyles and worlds that people come from, you know, it's 722 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,900 like people have sympathy fry for that. 723 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,800 You know, it's like yo this person came from a different 724 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,800 world. Like they they are not thinking 725 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,100 in any of the same way that that that you are, you know, 726 00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:54,100 especially people from different countries and what In this like 727 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:57,400 you like don't you understand? It's like, no, they don't 728 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,200 because that's not that wasn't part of, you know what I'm 729 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,100 saying? Anything. 730 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:05,600 They learning as, that's ignorance too, you know, yep, 731 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,700 but you're whatever, they're ignorant to you, you're ignorant 732 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:12,900 to to them. You know what I'm saying? 733 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:15,900 So, it goes both ways. That's a really good point. 734 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,500 And I think, if everybody knew that and understood, that we 735 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:21,600 wouldn't be like this country right now and I don't want to 736 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,000 start going down this road, but like we're off. 737 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,800 Obviously this play this country is divided as fuck. 738 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,300 But if we could have that attitude and just be a little 739 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,300 more understanding about people come from whatever I was like 740 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,900 look man. I'm from I'm from the bay. 741 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:35,100 Like I'm not going to start talking about what politics. 742 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:36,800 I mean you could fuck politics first of all. 743 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,900 Anyway, but obviously I got hippie parents. 744 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:43,500 I'm from the bay. You could imagine Like My Views, 745 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:46,000 but like I'll be real man. Like when we went shot red 746 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,700 rocket in Texas, these people couldn't be more opposite with 747 00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:51,800 their religion, their politics, and their, the best fucking 748 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,000 people. And if you put all that, 749 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,900 Bullshit aside. Actually, we have more fun with 750 00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:58,900 these people that I would think are just not yet in the flyover 751 00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:01,700 state in Oklahoma. That is all super cool. 752 00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:06,400 I mean and I fucking, you know, I wouldn't want to ask him what 753 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,700 their opinions were on certain things, but it just got to how 754 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:13,900 you gotta gotta give people a second chance, you know, some 755 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,400 people they come out to Cali and they see something that they've 756 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,800 never seen before and they life, you know what I'm saying, and 757 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,200 and therefore when you see Uh, something new. 758 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,500 Your first reaction is to be like, what the fuck is that? 759 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,900 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I've never seen that shit 760 00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:33,200 before, what is that and hate on it? 761 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,300 And yeah, you know, and it might not even be hate. 762 00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:41,900 It's just like, it's just like that that I mean, it's just it's 763 00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:44,300 just, that is foreign. They're like, wait, that's 764 00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:46,600 wrong. That's not supposed to be that 765 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,100 way. So then they then they kind of 766 00:37:49,107 --> 00:37:51,600 are like, what the fuck are you doing? 767 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,300 You know what I'm saying? Like, You're not supposed to be 768 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,300 doing that and it's just because they never seen it before. 769 00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,900 You know what I'm saying? That's why traveling is the best 770 00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:02,700 thing you could do man traveling is when you just start to open 771 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,300 your eyes to other ways and you're like, oh shit. 772 00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:07,800 And if you just stay stuck in your little town, in the middle 773 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,600 of America, you're just don't know what you don't know. 774 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,900 And that's all good. What was it? 775 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:12,600 A homework? Why were you in Oklahoma? 776 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,900 Is that where you got family or something? 777 00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:14,800 No, no. No. 778 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,600 We were just filming a movie out there. 779 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,400 Yeah, I can you talk about the movie or is it off the Record? 780 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,400 No. No, we did. 781 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,000 We were making like, like a frat movie. 782 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:27,900 Basically about like kind of like, I don't know like the 783 00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:31,700 Brotherhood of like the fraternity and whatnot and we're 784 00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:34,500 an Oklahoma Oklahoma City. Yeah. 785 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:38,400 We was out there and fucking like stuck in a hotel for a 786 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,900 month. Remember that you ever see The 787 00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:45,600 Outsiders so famous movie, You Gotta See definitely heard of 788 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,400 it, what they shot it in Oklahoma City and the director 789 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,100 put. So there's two groups in the 790 00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,600 movie. The scioscia's and of shit, IMA 791 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200 forget the One, it's two. It's the scioscia's where the 792 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,300 rich kids and the greasers were the poor kids. 793 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,600 And in real life, the director put all the actors who played 794 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,100 the rich kids in a nice hotel and all the actors who played 795 00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,800 the grimy kids in a shitty hotel. 796 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,500 So when they got to shooting, they really hated each other 797 00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:10,200 because they got the nice hotels. 798 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:11,500 That's fire. Right? 799 00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,600 But that movie is a must-see and it's in Oklahoma. 800 00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:18,700 I live in Oklahoma City once it was, it seems like it's pretty 801 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:20,700 cool. I just we just couldn't risk 802 00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,000 catching covid, you know, ain't nobody worried. 803 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:25,700 No master I know right? That's another thing with the 804 00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:28,300 whole covid shit. It's like you come to 805 00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:30,200 California. People take that shit way 806 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,700 serious. And we were in Texas, shoot red 807 00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:33,500 rocket ain't nobody wearing a mask. 808 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:37,400 And at the end of the day, man. It's like do what you got to do. 809 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,700 I don't judge, man. It's like whatever. 810 00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:42,600 Yeah. What are you gonna do, man? 811 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,500 You can't change people. That's another thing, man, like 812 00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,200 goes back to ignorance. It's not like they got the 813 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,500 intention like I'm not gonna wear masks because I'm gonna 814 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:55,400 fucking To give other people covid-19 him. 815 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,300 There's not, no bad intention behind it, man. 816 00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:00,200 They just don't feel like doing it. 817 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,500 I got it now. I'm just ready for this yet to 818 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,500 be over brought to be honest. I'm done with that. 819 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,400 So it's so you imagine you probably getting you're saying 820 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,100 no to a lot of shit, right? Like you're getting offers sent 821 00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,600 in and you're picking your jobs. You want to do. 822 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,000 Yeah. I mean, yeah. 823 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,800 Whoo, we're figuring it out. Yeah, pretty much. 824 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,800 Yeah. Yeah. 825 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,900 It's a good place to Be man. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out 826 00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:28,700 how this shit works right now man. 827 00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:31,100 You just got thrown into the deep end of the pool, Bross 828 00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,400 crazy. Like you really got thrown onto 829 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,200 the biggest show in the world, pretty much. 830 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,400 I mean, it feels like that's the biggest show on on TV right. 831 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,900 Now. It's all anyone's talking about, 832 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,100 is something about, it's crazy. It's I mean, it's fucking a good 833 00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:47,400 show. It's a good show man, and it's 834 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,800 like a cultural phenomenon. It's like sit, two piece of the 835 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,300 time. It is relevant. 836 00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:55,200 Now, it's Stay relevant. I tell you what though, bro. 837 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,700 I watch that show and I just feel. 838 00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:59,000 Oh, I'll be honest man. I watched the first pilot and it 839 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,700 made me uncomfortable because watching like these kids, not 840 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,400 even less than half my age. Wildin out like that. 841 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,000 And I was like the sex and drugs and I was like, damn, why is 842 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,600 this making me uncomfortable? Like I was that what it meant? 843 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:13,300 And I'm like, okay, you got to sit through this because that's 844 00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:14,200 good. It's making you feel 845 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,200 uncomfortable. I want to feel uncomfortable, 846 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,900 you know, I mean, but it was like, yo, shit's wild. 847 00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:22,400 I'm about to do a movie with your girl, Sydney Sweeney. 848 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:23,900 Yes. Yes. 849 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,900 Who everybody and Lucas. Lucas gave? 850 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:30,300 Yeah, he told me, she's the homie song about I haven't met 851 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:31,600 her yet. But we're shooting a movie in 852 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,100 New Mexico and a couple weeks and he's like, yo, she's the 853 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,000 best. Yeah. 854 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,700 Yeah, and then both of them are so yeah. 855 00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:41,200 Super cool. So it's funny because, you know, 856 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,900 I just did a movie with Lucas and I was like, you know, I 857 00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:47,700 still haven't watched Euphoria. He's like, don't watch it man. 858 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:50,200 I don't want you to see me, and then I watched it and he got his 859 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,400 ass beat near to death. And I don't even know what, I 860 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,700 don't even know. Survived it. 861 00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:55,000 That's why I stopped watching it. 862 00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:59,100 But the man, dude, this shows fuck with me. 863 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:03,300 Like, I actually now, I'm excited to go back and finish it 864 00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:05,700 because I need something to watch and I really watch and 865 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:07,800 shit. So I'm going to dive back into 866 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,200 it. And yeah, it's yeah, I don't 867 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,100 watch much TV either to be honest with you. 868 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,400 I'm a documentary dude. I just want to watch some real 869 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,300 shit, especially because that's what we're doing. 870 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,100 I like watching Gordon Ramsay talk shit for a checkup. 871 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,300 Yeah. Yeah, always that the chef who 872 00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,100 yells at people. Yeah. 873 00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:29,900 Yeah. What other shit you watch. 874 00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:33,800 I really don't. I'm not I got a TV with a VCR 875 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,600 things. So I got a VCR. 876 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:41,400 Yes, like a little tiny, like 12 inch or this fucking sometimes 877 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,400 throwing, that's know some old classic. 878 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,100 Yeah. Yeah. 879 00:42:45,107 --> 00:42:47,700 Yeah. She's almost, like, do you even 880 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,600 need to go to acting school? Because I feel like sometimes 881 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,900 it's like your instinct might be good enough to wear. 882 00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,200 Sometimes I think they can read rocket. 883 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,700 All the rest of the cast except my wife would never acted before 884 00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:01,100 and they were fucking amazing and they just rocked off. 885 00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:07,200 Instinct when I went to the class a different class in like 886 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,700 I had a scene partner for the class and I asked her because I 887 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:14,400 was trying to figure out because I had went to the class and I 888 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,600 watch the kids doing their little scenes and whatnot and I 889 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,100 walked away and I was like, I asked my scene partner Mike. 890 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,500 What am I supposed to be taking away from this? 891 00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,900 Like, what should I be learning? You know what I'm saying? 892 00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:33,700 And she can't really tell me like a direct answer and so I 893 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:37,000 was just like confused. I didn't know what to take away 894 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,800 or like what I was supposed to be paying attention to and 895 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,900 things. And then at one point, Sam, the 896 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:46,300 director of you for a he told me one day. 897 00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:48,200 He was like, yo, did you rehearse this scene? 898 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,300 And I was like little bit and he was like, don't do it. 899 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,700 Yeah, see that's my point. At this point, I've just been 900 00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:00,800 trying to just like fucking act, like it's dumb in the moment. 901 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,300 You know, that's it. Listen, anyone listening to 902 00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:04,900 this, that's trying to be an actor. 903 00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:08,300 First of all, what you just said, bro, is exactly what I 904 00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:11,100 fight with all the time because we're red rocket. 905 00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,400 I didn't have. I got the job three days before 906 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,900 we started shooting and I had to memorize. 907 00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:18,700 I'm on every page of that script, right? 908 00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:22,900 I had no time to think and that is, what worked. 909 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,500 Was because I wasn't overthinking and over 910 00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:26,700 rehearsing. Yeah. 911 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:28,800 Shoot on film. Let's go, you know, your lines 912 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,700 kind of, let's roll on the fuck. If I ever seen coming up, man. 913 00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:36,800 I wait till the very last second or else, I'll just kill myself 914 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,200 with anxiety, bro. Like so I just put it off and 915 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,900 then I'll get my lines. You know what I'm saying? 916 00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,100 I try not to remember, like I don't know if I can work in a 917 00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:52,300 movie where I have to say each line perfectly because I 918 00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:57,500 Marseille different every time because I don't want to get 919 00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:00,100 caught up on. Like, you know, the order of the 920 00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:04,700 words and was more like the idea of the, I bet Sam likes that 921 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,800 because you'll give him different takes. 922 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,400 So he because somebody some directors do do that. 923 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,400 I've been on movies where they're like, no, it's you need 924 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,600 to go to the store or not. You need to go to like every 925 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,700 single answer for I can do. Yeah. 926 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,800 Because it would just, it would just fuck me up. 927 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,800 Not being able to just flow. Yeah, man, it's all about the 928 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,600 gut rocking off Instinct and going with the gut and just 929 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,800 improving. And I luckily Shaun Baker. 930 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,500 He let me improv a lot. Like I think he said in the end 931 00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,000 25% or red rocket was improv, which is a lot, you know, and to 932 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,500 be able to improv on film. You know, how lucky that is? 933 00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:41,900 Brother mean? Nobody just do that. 934 00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:46,300 But anyway, so anyone out there listening man, go off your 935 00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:49,200 instinct and don't judge what. So what's the lesson to this? 936 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,800 Don't overthink shit. People don't have bad. 937 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,200 Tensions are the time that's to I there's got to be a third one 938 00:45:56,300 --> 00:46:00,500 and maybe maybe don't watch it so bad and let it come to you. 939 00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,200 There's a little bit of wisdom from two dudes who maybe aren't 940 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,500 the wisest cats in the world, but we got a little wisdom. 941 00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:07,400 I think. Yeah, a little Bela a little 942 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,800 bait with fucking, you know, follow your dreams. 943 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,400 They're going to lead somewhere. Are you gonna show me? 944 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,800 Yo, man, but to do it. Yeah. 945 00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:20,200 Anyway, man, it was cool to meet you bail of all day. 946 00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:22,800 I wish you all the best. You know what I mean? 947 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,800 And they handle that Fame. Keep a good head, on your 948 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,200 shoulders. I feel like you got that option. 949 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,300 Don't let the fame. Fuck you up too much, man. 950 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,500 It was good to meet you. Rob you to my God. 951 00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:36,700 Congratulations on the new movie and all that man. 952 00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:38,700 Appreciate. Hope to see you again soon. 953 00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:47,300 Thanks for listening. 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