1 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:13,300 Hi everyone. Welcome back to daily gospel. 2 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:16,200 Exegesis. As always, we're going to dive 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,500 into the text from The Gospel. Reading that you will hear it 4 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:23,800 today's mass and our goal is to help you understand the literal 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,500 sense. That's what this podcast is all 6 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:28,500 about. We don't look at politics going 7 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:31,300 on in the church today. Just every day we do the same 8 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:34,100 thing which is help, you understand, the literal sense of 9 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:36,600 scripture, which is what we should be doing as Catholics. 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,800 That's where we should start. If we want to understand the 11 00:00:38,808 --> 00:00:41,300 Bible. So if you go to mass today, you 12 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:46,100 would hear from John chapter, 1 verses 35 to 42. 13 00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:49,400 This is a reading, that's not particularly well-known. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,000 So let's get into the text as John stood with two of his 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,900 disciples Jesus passed and John stared hard at him and said look 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,700 Look, there is the Lamb of God. Hearing this, the two disciples, 17 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:09,100 who followed Jesus, Jesus turned around and saw them following 18 00:01:09,100 --> 00:01:15,400 and said, what do you want? They answered Rabbi, which means 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,800 teacher, where do you live? Come and see, he replied. 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,800 So they went and saw where he lived and stayed with them. 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,500 The rest of that day, it was about the tenth hour. 22 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:32,000 One of these two who became followers of Jesus after 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 hearing. What John had said was Andrew, 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,500 the brother of Simon Peter. Early next morning, Andrew met 25 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:43,800 his brother and said to him, we have found the Messiah, which 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,600 means the Christ and he took Simon to Jesus. 27 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:52,900 And Jesus looked hard at him and said, you are Simon. 28 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:57,300 Son of John, you are to be called cephas, meaning Rock. 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,100 So an interesting reading here and we'll see, as we go along 30 00:02:03,100 --> 00:02:06,200 that this lectionary translation that we have here. 31 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:09,600 It's not great in a lot of ways, they've added some things in and 32 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,000 change some of the words around, which make it a little more 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,600 confusing. So, let's start by thinking 34 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,700 about the context. So just prior to this in John 35 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:21,000 chapter 1 John, the Baptist has been preaching. 36 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:24,700 And he identified for the crowd who the Messiah was. 37 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:26,700 He looked at? Jesus and said there is the 38 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:28,800 Messiah. And then, in the previous 39 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,000 Passage, John the Baptist apparently that's where he 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 baptizes Jesus and he sees this Spirit descending Upon Jesus. 41 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,100 So all of that is has happened. The scene of course is the 42 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:42,400 River. Jordan in the region of perea. 43 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:45,200 And what we're going to see here, it's kind of like the 44 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,600 origin story for two of the disciples. 45 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:50,100 It's an interesting backstory that you don't get to hear in 46 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:52,800 the other gospels. Remember, this is quite early in 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,900 Jesus ministry, this is before he even begins his Galilean 48 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:59,000 Ministry, this is before he's gone into the desert to be 49 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,500 tempted. He's still in the region of 50 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:06,300 perea, just after his baptized now verse 35, if you look at 51 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:09,100 most Bibles, there's a phrase in here which is actually really 52 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:11,600 important. But the lectionary has taken it 53 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,400 out because it may not make sense if we just started with 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,400 this phrase, but there is a phrase in there and it's this 55 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,100 the next day. So that tells us that what we're 56 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:25,900 about to see occurs on the day following what we've just heard. 57 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:29,000 Now, what happened on the previous day, that's when Jesus 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,900 approached. John the Baptist at the River, 59 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:35,200 Jordan to be baptized. So on that day, the John the 60 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,300 Baptist told the crowds that Jesus is the Messiah and he did 61 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:41,500 a big speech about it. Now I apparently it's the next 62 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:44,600 day and Jesus is still hanging around and at the River Jordan, 63 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,800 he didn't just get baptized and then go away. 64 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:50,900 He's staying in that region. So if you added up 65 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:53,600 chronologically, if you study, John chapter 1 carefully. 66 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:59,000 We're now on the third day at the River, Jordan And the text 67 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,000 he says as John stood with two of his disciples. 68 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:04,600 Now we're talking here about John the Baptist, not the 69 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Apostle, John so John the Baptist is there with two of his 70 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,300 disciples so John the Baptist has disciples and we later 71 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:14,700 learned that one of these disciples is Andrew. 72 00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:19,300 Who is the second disciple? The gospel text doesn't tell us. 73 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:22,700 And so for that reason, many scholars believe. 74 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,000 Now we can't prove this but it's an interesting Theory. 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,100 Many scholars, believe the second disciple, a disciple of 76 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:31,600 John, the Baptist who is not named it's actually John 77 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,900 himself. The author. 78 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:36,700 The Apostle John is the second disciple that would make sense 79 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:40,100 actually, because we know that the Apostle John never named 80 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:43,500 himself in his own Gospel, he typically calls himself the 81 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:47,800 Beloved disciple Now, if that's correct, if this second 82 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,100 disciple, here is the Apostle John. 83 00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:53,800 That would mean, he is a disciple of John, the Baptist 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 and that would explain a lot. That would explain how, the 85 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,100 Apostle, John knows. So many things that John, the 86 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:04,500 Baptist said early on because he is one of John, the Baptist's 87 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:09,000 our own disciples. So what does it mean to say 88 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,800 that? John the Baptist had disciples, 89 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,900 we sometimes think of him as a bit of a loner out in the 90 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:15,700 desert, he actually has followers that follow him around 91 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,900 and help him baptized people. It was common at that time for 92 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:21,400 Jewish people. To follow particular, rabbis 93 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,600 that they were drawn to many Jews, voluntarily chose to 94 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,400 follow rabbis, and if they did that, they would spend as much 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,700 time with the rabbi as possible when they weren't working. 96 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:34,900 John the Baptist was a very popular preacher. 97 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:36,900 At this time, he had a lot of disciples. 98 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:40,500 Many people were flocking to him out in the wilderness and 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,700 Andrew, and this other unnamed disciple, possibly, the Apostle, 100 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:47,300 John, they are both disciples their followers of John the 101 00:05:47,308 --> 00:05:50,700 Baptist, which means that they spend time with him in their 102 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:52,000 spare time when they're not working. 103 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,600 They want to learn from him, verse 36, Jesus passed, and John 104 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,500 stared hard at him. A better translation of this 105 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:03,000 would be. He looked at Jesus as he a walk 106 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,500 to. So, we can imagine here, John 107 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:06,700 the Baptist in the river preaching and then he sees John, 108 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:10,100 the Baptist pass by again, and he looks at Jesus just as he 109 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:13,600 does on the previous day. And he says, look, there is the 110 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,400 Lamb of God or Behold the Lamb of God. 111 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:20,500 And we talked about the Lamb of God, in the previous days, 112 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:23,000 leading up to this one. It's a very significant phrase. 113 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,600 He's the final Lamb of God, the one whose sacrifice is going to 114 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,400 atone for everyone's sins. So, again, John the Baptist 115 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,600 points out to the crowd that this is the I'm of God, he's the 116 00:06:33,608 --> 00:06:35,400 one who's going to bring his salvation? 117 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:39,100 He is the Messiah. That's what John the Baptist 118 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:43,800 says, here verse 37 hearing this, the two Disciples of 119 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,600 following Jesus, so these two disciples Andrew, and the other 120 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,500 disciple. They hear. 121 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:52,300 John the Baptist identify Jesus as the Messiah and they're 122 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:55,100 intrigued, so they begin to follow Jesus. 123 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,200 In particular, it seems these two disciples want to know who 124 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,400 this Jesus guy is? Where does he come from? 125 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Where does he live? They're fascinated by him. 126 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,800 In verse 38, Jesus turned around and saw them following him and 127 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,200 he said, what do you want? Now, our translation makes that 128 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,500 seem a bit abrupt what he actually says they're more 129 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:17,800 literally. Is what do you seek? 130 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:22,700 So Jesus, Ask them. What do they want? 131 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:25,500 What do they seek these two disciples that are following him 132 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:27,200 now? Jesus probably already knows the 133 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,100 answer to this but he wants to open up the dialogue. 134 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,600 He wants to hear what they have to say for themselves. 135 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,100 These are Jesus first words in the Gospel of John. 136 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:39,500 Jesus has not said anything yet. Until now, in verse 38, his 137 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:42,200 first words are, what do you seek? 138 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,800 And there might be some, some theological significance there. 139 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:47,100 He is. Inviting people to consider what 140 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:49,400 do they seek? Which, of course should be 141 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,200 salvation. Which he Come to bring and the 142 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,100 two disciples answered Rabbi and then John tells us, which means 143 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:58,900 teacher. So the fact that John, the 144 00:07:58,900 --> 00:08:03,800 Apostle, John the author translates, this word, Rabbi for 145 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,800 his readers indicates that he knows many of his readers are 146 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,100 probably not Jewish. What does the red rabbi mean? 147 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:13,900 Well, it means teacher as John tells us and it's a title of 148 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:17,600 respect in that culture, for those who taught about God and 149 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,500 religious things, it's a title of respect that you will give 150 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:22,900 someone who you believe is teaching the truth about God. 151 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:26,300 So at this point, the two disciples are not willing to 152 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:31,200 call him Messiah, they just call him Rabbi or teacher and this is 153 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,400 what they asked. Jesus. 154 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,400 Where do you live a better translation? 155 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,700 There would be. Where are you? 156 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:39,200 Staying, they don't want to know where he lives permanently. 157 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:42,000 They want to know where he's staying currently they want to 158 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,500 know where they can find him. They want to follow him back to 159 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:47,600 the place. He's staying at Jesus answer. 160 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,800 In verse 39 he says come and see you probably heard this slogan 161 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,700 used by lots of Ministries and maybe vocations organizations 162 00:08:56,700 --> 00:08:59,000 talking about this phrase as their slogan. 163 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,100 You want to know what we're about come and see you probably 164 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:06,200 heard this used before. In the original literal context 165 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,400 which is what we're concerned with come and see this is Jesus. 166 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,700 Speaking to these two disciples to allow, he's inviting them to 167 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:16,300 come and see where he lives. You can say it's both an 168 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:18,600 invitation and a risk and a promise. 169 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,900 You could. Imagine Jesus is saying come and 170 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:25,700 you will see. And in a sense, this does apply 171 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:28,900 to all of us, Jesus is inviting all of us to come and 172 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,200 investigate him and to investigate the things of 173 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,100 Salvation. So he says to the two disciples 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,700 has come and see, come and see where I live. 175 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,900 And the two went and saw where he lived or they saw where he 176 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:42,600 was staying. We don't know exactly where he 177 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,500 was staying, John the author doesn't tell us but we can 178 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:47,900 logically work it out. John. 179 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:51,100 The Baptist is baptizing in Bethany beyond the Jordan in the 180 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:54,500 region of Korea. Now, that is nowhere near 181 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:57,800 Nazareth or Capernaum. So wherever Jesus is staying has 182 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,400 to be within walking distance of Bethany beyond the Jordan. 183 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:03,400 So it has to be within a few hours walk. 184 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:05,500 It's not. As a riff, it's not capernum. 185 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:08,700 So possibly, he might have been staying in Jericho, if you look 186 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:12,800 at a map of Israel in these times, the major city near 187 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,600 Bethany beyond the Jordan is Jericho. 188 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:17,300 So, maybe that's where Jesus walked to possibly, that's where 189 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:19,900 he's staying. And the two disciples they 190 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:22,300 follow him. And our translation says, they 191 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:25,300 stayed with him. The rest of the day, it was 192 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:29,300 about the tenth hour. This is not a very helpful 193 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:31,100 translation, I think a better translation. 194 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:34,300 Might be something like this. They stayed with him that A 195 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:37,100 today for it was about the tenth hour. 196 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,800 So when it says, they stayed with him, a basically means they 197 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,200 stayed overnight with him for it was about the tenth hour. 198 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,500 So they went to his house and by then it was about the tenth hour 199 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:52,300 which is 4 p.m. and they realize it's getting too late for them 200 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:54,200 to walk back to Bethany beyond the Jordan. 201 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,200 So they decide to stay with Jesus overnight, these two 202 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,300 disciples apparently get to stay with Jesus. 203 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,700 And it's possible that some conversations happened during 204 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:06,100 that night, maybe Jesus stayed up with them and talk to them 205 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:08,100 about things. That would be cool, but we're 206 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:10,400 Sure what happened, but they apparently stayed with him 207 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,600 wherever he staying, interestingly hear the word for 208 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,300 state aid. It's elsewhere translated in the 209 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:19,600 gospel as remain. Remember when Jesus says, remain 210 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,400 in me or abide in me, it's the same word and that describes the 211 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,200 sun's intimate Divine communion with the father. 212 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,900 If you look at Chapter, 14 verse 10 and 15:10, they both use that 213 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:33,800 same Greek word, which is translated remain here. 214 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,600 It's translated stayed but it's the same Greek word. 215 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,700 So maybe the apostle John the author here is trying to connote 216 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:43,400 that. The two disciples who were there 217 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,400 with him. They abided with Jesus in a 218 00:11:46,408 --> 00:11:49,300 special theological way and it's certainly true that by the end 219 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:52,900 of the night, the disciples are beginning to understand Jesus 220 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:56,400 true identity, verse 40, the author. 221 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,700 John now tells us one of these two who became followers of 222 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:03,300 Jesus after hearing. What John had said was Andrew 223 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:07,300 the brother of Simon Peter. So here we introduced to the 224 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:09,200 Apostle. Andrew the brother of Peter, 225 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:13,000 Andrew is always described in reference to Peter, his famous 226 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,900 for being Peters brother. Basically and Peter is the 227 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:18,800 leader of the disciples. Everyone knew who Peter was. 228 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:22,500 So for the gospel authors to say, Andrew the brother of Peter 229 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:25,200 that automatically gives him a special kind of prominence. 230 00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:31,100 Now, verse 41 here has another unhelpful phrase, which makes 231 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:32,400 things a bit difficult to understand. 232 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,200 So the phrase the lectionary has added into our translation is 233 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,200 early next morning. That is not there in the 234 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,900 original. If you look up a Bible and go to 235 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:44,700 John 1:41 it does not say early next morning. 236 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:48,700 And in fact, if you read on it, probably wasn't the next 237 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:50,400 morning. It doesn't make sense to say it 238 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,400 was the next morning. So this is one place where the 239 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,600 lectionary has not been particularly helpful. 240 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:01,000 In the way the his have decided to render this particular verse 241 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,700 they've added in a phrase which makes things more confusing. 242 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,900 Normally this translation is actually quite good but here I 243 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:09,700 think we can say as people who are studying the Bible that I 244 00:13:09,700 --> 00:13:13,000 think they've probably made this section a little more difficult 245 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,500 to understand the what it needs to be. 246 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,700 Keeping in mind of course that the lectionary translation is 247 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:21,300 not primarily for Bible study, it's actually more for preaching 248 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:25,100 in the context of the liturgy. So what happens here in verse 249 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:27,600 41, it says Andrew met his brother. 250 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,100 So Andrew who has just encountered Jesus and has been 251 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:35,900 at his house who now believes Jesus is the Messiah Andrew now 252 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:37,700 goes and finds his brother Simon. 253 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,200 Now, Simon is probably fishing in Galilee, Simon Works in 254 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,600 Galilee. If you look at a map Galilee and 255 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,700 perea are not near each other, it's probably about a five-day 256 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:51,600 walk for Andrew to going, see Simon. 257 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:55,700 So that probably means it wasn't the Day that Andrew went and saw 258 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,400 Peter. Unless, of course, Peter happens 259 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,600 to be staying in the area as well, but I think it's most 260 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,600 illogical to assume that Peter is staying in his usual spot in 261 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,500 Galilee. So, Andrew would have had to 262 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:10,900 walk about 94 kilometers to get back to Simon in Galilee. 263 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:14,700 So a four or five day walk for him to go and get his brother 264 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:16,400 when he finally gets to his brother. 265 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,700 He says, we have found the Messiah which means the Christ. 266 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,200 So again here, the Apostle John adds in a phrase to To clarify 267 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,500 for his readers. What the word Messiah means? 268 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:30,300 It means the Christ. So Christ is not Jesus. 269 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:32,600 Last name, when we say, Jesus Christ. 270 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,000 We mean Jesus Messiah. So, if we ever use that phrase, 271 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,100 Jesus Christ, what we are actually saying is Jesus, is the 272 00:14:39,100 --> 00:14:42,100 Messiah now. Andrew and Simon are both 273 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:44,700 faithful Jews and they've been waiting for the Messiah. 274 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:47,200 They believe the Messiah is coming here. 275 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,900 The Apostle, John tells us that Andrew says to Peter. 276 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:53,600 We have found the Messiah. This would be incredibly joyful. 277 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:58,100 Joyful news during this stay at Jesus house, Andrew has become 278 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:01,100 convinced that Jesus is the Messiah and he wants to share 279 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:03,700 that with his brother naturally. And he can't just ring his 280 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:06,400 brother up and tell him because there is no phones in this day. 281 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,600 He has to go and see him personally to tell him we have 282 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,700 found the Messiah and he takes, Simon back to Jesus. 283 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:15,400 So now Andrew takes Simon to Jesus. 284 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,300 That's probably another 5 day, walk back down to Bethany. 285 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,200 So this whole time period, here is probably about ten days long. 286 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,000 That means Jesus stayed in the region of perea for quite a 287 00:15:27,008 --> 00:15:29,900 while. It would have taken a while for 288 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:32,000 Peter to get down and see Jesus here. 289 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:35,900 So Simon now gets to Jesus and verse 42. 290 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:40,200 Jesus looked hard at him, so Jesus is focusing on Peter. 291 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,600 He's really looking at Peter. He's seeing his future and he's 292 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,000 seeing his heart and Jesus says to him, you are Simon son of 293 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,700 John. So that's Simon. 294 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,500 His birth name, Simon, son of John, but now Jesus says, you 295 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:57,700 are to be called cephas. Now what he's saying here is 296 00:15:57,700 --> 00:16:01,100 that one day in the future, you will be called cephas one day. 297 00:16:01,100 --> 00:16:05,000 You'll be called cephas. It's not here that Jesus gives 298 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,100 him the official title and says, from now on, you will be called 299 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,600 cephas or Peter here. All he says, is one day you will 300 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,100 be called Peter. So it's the very first 301 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:16,800 chronological encounter between Jesus and Peter. 302 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,500 It's quite significant and he says, you are to be called 303 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:24,100 cephas meaning Rock. So, cephas is an Aramaic word, 304 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,500 which means in English, Walk and the Greek version of this would 305 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:32,400 say, face basically gets translated to Peter or Petros. 306 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,500 So cephas Petros Peter. They're all the same word. 307 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Why? Jesus chooses to call him 308 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,300 cephas? Or says, one day you'll be 309 00:16:41,308 --> 00:16:43,600 called cephas. That's not explained here. 310 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,400 But it is explained later in Matthew chapter 16 and we talked 311 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,400 about that in the podcast, when we get there, it's a very 312 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,400 significant passage. But here, this is very early on 313 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,300 this is, well, before Matthew 16. 314 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:59,200 Jesus already knows the very first time he encounters Peter 315 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,300 here. He knows. 316 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,500 The Peter will be the leader of his shoe of his church, after 317 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,400 he's gone. He sees all that in advance. 318 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:11,700 So what we've seen here is the origin story of Andrew and 319 00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:14,000 Peter. And possibly also the Apostle, 320 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,400 John, if you assume that the other unnamed disciple here is 321 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,300 the Apostle. John. 322 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,300 This is not their official call to Ministry that happens. 323 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:25,000 Later, this is purely a first meeting. 324 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,200 It's the first in Counter between these disciples and 325 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,500 Jesus but it's not their official call as Apostles when 326 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:35,300 Jesus does later. Call Peter and Andrew to follow 327 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:38,400 him, which he does in Galilee while they're fishing in 328 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,900 Galilee, they are ready to come, they drop, their net straight 329 00:17:41,900 --> 00:17:45,800 away and that's easy to explain when you keep in mind that 330 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,800 they've already met him once before they've met him here so 331 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,300 that when he does call them later by the Sea of Galilee 332 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,800 they're ready to follow him. So that's the end of our text 333 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,600 for today. There's still more disciples 334 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,000 that Jesus is going to call in John chapter one. 335 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,200 So you can hear that next section of text every year on 336 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,700 January 5th, it's red. Let's now turn to the catechism 337 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:09,900 to see what it has to say about this passage. 338 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:13,300 So we could just have one reference here paragraph. 608 of 339 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:16,600 the catechism is about this concept of Jesus being the Lamb 340 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,000 of God. It says after agreeing to 341 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,700 baptize him along with the Sinners, John the Baptist, he 342 00:18:22,708 --> 00:18:26,800 looked at Jesus and pointed him out as the Lamb of God who takes 343 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,400 away the sin of the World by doing. 344 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,300 So he reveals. The Cheese's is at the same 345 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:36,000 time, the suffering servant, who silently allows himself. 346 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,400 To be led to the slaughter and who Bears, the sin of the 347 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,000 multitudes and also the Paschal Lamb, the symbol of Israel's 348 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,700 Redemption at the first Passover, Christ's whole life, 349 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:51,800 expresses his mission to serve and to give his life as a ransom 350 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,500 for many. So we have here, this concept of 351 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,100 Jesus being the Lamb of God, which is what John the Baptist 352 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:01,000 calls him repeatedly in John chapter one that's being 353 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,600 unpacked here for us. I hope you learned something. 354 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,700 New from today's episode, the whole John chapter one is quite 355 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:10,600 fascinating the way it sets up the rest of Jesus Ministry. 356 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,300 Thanks once again for tuning in. Please tell other people about 357 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:16,600 this podcast, you can send in your questions. 358 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,800 Anytime a logical Bible study at gmail.com, I'd love to answer 359 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,900 your questions in an upcoming episode or if you have any 360 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:25,800 feedback, tell us what you've been learning. 361 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,800 Tell us how you first found the podcast. 362 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,600 I'd love to hear from you. 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