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Hi everyone, welcome back to our
podcast, where we take a look at

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the Gospel reading from today's 
mess. 

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And today, we're just going to 
jump straight into it. 

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So we'll start by reading the 
passage which is from Mark 

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chapter 9. 
Verse 14 to 29. 

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When Jesus with Peter James and 
John came down from the mountain

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and rejoined, the disciples, 
they saw a large crowd around 

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them and some scribes arguing 
with them. 

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The moment they saw him, the 
whole crowd was struck with 

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amazement and ran to greet him. 
What are you arguing about with 

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them? 
He asked A man answered him from

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the crowd master. 
I have brought my son to you. 

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There is a spirit of dumbness in
him and when it takes hold of 

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him at throws him to the ground 
and he Foams at the mouth and 

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grinds his teeth and goes rigid 
and I asked you two cycles to 

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cast it out and they were unable
to You faithless generation, he 

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said to them in reply, how much 
longer must I be with you? 

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How much longer must I put up 
with? 

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You bring him to me. 
I brought the boy to him and as 

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soon as the spirit saw Jesus it 
through the boy into convulsions

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and he fell to the ground and 
lay writhing their foaming at 

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the mouth. 
Jesus asked the father, how long

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has this been happening to him 
from childhood? 

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He replied and it is often 
thrown him into the fire and 

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into the water in order to 
destroy him. 

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But if you can do anything, have
pity on us and help us. 

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If you can retorted Jesus, 
everything is possible for 

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anyone who has faith. 
Immediately the father of the 

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boy, cried out. 
I do have faith helped a little 

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faith. 
I have And when Jesus saw, how 

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many people were pressing round 
him, he rebuked the unclean 

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Spirit, deaf and dumb Spirit. 
He said, I command you come out 

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of him and never enter him 
again. 

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Then throwing the boy into 
violent convulsions. 

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It came out shouting and the boy
lay there, so like a corpse. 

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So like a corpse that most of 
them said he is dead. 

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But Jesus took him by the hand 
and helped him up and he was 

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able to stand. 
When he had gone indoors the 

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disciples asked him privately. 
Why will be unable to cast it 

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out? 
This is the kind, he answered 

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that can only be driven out by 
prayer. 

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So, let's start by thinking 
about the context, so, what's 

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just happened is the 
Transfiguration. 

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So remember, Jesus goes up the 
mountain with the, in a group of

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disciples and now they've come 
down the mountain and they're 

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rejoining, the larger group. 
Verse 14, they saw a loud large 

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crowd around them. 
So while Jesus has been up the 

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crowd with the, in a group, the 
rest of his disciples have a 

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large crowd gathering around 
them. 

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And apparently the the the guy 
has brought his son to try and 

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for the disciples to try and 
exercise the the Sun. 

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So there's a large crowd 
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Some, scribes arguing with them.
So, remember, the scribes are 

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like the experts in the law. 
They were the ones who were able

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to read and interpret the law. 
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they were the ones who basically
had the right understanding. 

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So probably what's happened by 
now is the Disciples of try to 

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exercise the boy and the scrubs 
have begun disputing with the 

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disciples about their ability to
exercise. 

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Remember they did that with 
Jesus in verse in chapter 3, 

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verse 22. 
Now they're probably doing it 

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with the disciples. 
How do you have the right to 

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exercise? 
Verse 15, all the crowd when 

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they saw him were amazed. 
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The mark doesn't tell us but 
it's probably because he could 

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still be shining his face could 
still be shining from after the 

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Transfiguration. 
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Moses. 
After Moses went up the 

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mountain, he was glowing and 
then when he came back down the 

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mountain, he was still glowing. 
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verse 29 and apparently the same
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Verse 16, Jesus asks the the 
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What are you arguing about with 
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Verse 17, the man, the man in 
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have brought my son, I brought 
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So apparently, that's what's 
agitated. 

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The scribes this boy who's 
possessed by the demon, the man 

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goes on. 
There is a spirit of dumbness on

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him. 
Excess of today will tell you 

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this demons. 
Some demons can get certain 

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control over certain parts of 
the body and apparently this one

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was making the boy dumb. 
Some Scholars would say the most

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literal translation here is that
there is a mute Spirit which 

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suggests that the demon itself 
might be mute because remember 

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most demons in Mark, cry out in 
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Who are you? 
Why are you here? 

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Son of God. 
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anything which suggests that 
maybe it could be mute, although

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it does share out a bit later 
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The father continues when it 
takes, hold of him and throws 

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him to the ground. 
He Foams at the mouth and grinds

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his teeth and goes rigid. 
So, these are very severe 

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symptoms. 
So, this indicates, we're 

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dealing with a very strong 
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Now, lots of skeptical Scholars,
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said, oh, that's epilepsy, the 
boy has epilepsy. 

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I think for us as Christians who
take the Bible? 

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Seriously. 
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going on here and probably the 
reality is demonic possessions 

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can manifest in symptoms that 
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say that, every single case of 
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something, but the demons can 
cause symptoms like that. 

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The father continues. 
I asked your disciples to cast 

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it out, but they were unable to 
now. 

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This is very strange because 
earlier in Mark the disciples 

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were given the power of 
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So they should be able to do it.
Usually, they can cast out the 

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demons but there's something 
different about this demon verse

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19, Jesus. 
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So Jesus by saying this oh 
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This is probably directed mostly
of the disciples. 

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His probably implying that the 
reason they haven't been able to

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cast the demons out is because 
they or maybe the crowd has a 

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lack of faith. 
Had they had more faith, this 

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wouldn't be an issue. 
That might seem strange but all 

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throughout mark. 
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The more faith you have the more
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possible the more becomes 
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miracles in that area. 
And then he says, some fairly 

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harsh things. 
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be with you. 
How much longer must I put up 

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with you? 
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Here is indicating frustration 
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If the people and the disciples 
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it will be so much easier to 
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So he's kind of lamenting the 
fact that the people don't have 

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enough faith. 
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me. 
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apostles, just as the crowded 
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He now says, to the apostles, 
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So Jesus is now going to deal 
with the exorcism himself, verse

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20, when the spirit saw Jesus 
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Mark that this the demons 
recognize Jesus, and they're 

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pretty frightened of him because
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them it through the boy into 
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So that the spirit takes over 
the boy's body and causes him to

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have these convulsions. 
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convulsions. 
He fell to the ground and lay 

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writhing their foaming. 
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This must have been a very 
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Just to see this boy arriving at
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large crowds see this and start 
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place as we soon discover. 
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The father tells Jesus that the 
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demon since childhood. 
So Jesus does a background 

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check. 
He says how long has the boy 

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being possessed? 
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Why is that detail important? 
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the the child is in is innocent.
He hasn't done anything to bring

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the demon into his life. 
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often thrown him into the fire 
and the water So the father here

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is probably a faithful Jew, he 
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He knows that his son is 
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the demon is trying to destroy 
the boy. 

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He's trying to get the boy to 
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So he apparently made the boy, 
walk through fire and drown in 

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water and all that sort of stuff
that hasn't worked so far, but 

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it's a very malicious demon. 
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can do anything. 
So in other words, Jesus, if it 

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is within your power, have pity 
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So he's begging for Jesus 
assistance. and then Jesus says 

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this strange thing in verse 23, 
if you can, everything is 

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possible for anyone who has 
faith, So what does Jesus mean 

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here? 
The teaching appears to be that 

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for the person who has genuine 
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God doing his work in their 
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So in theory, for someone who 
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possible Miracle. 
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anything possible or anything. 
The person asks for but he is 

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laying down this principle that 
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that is a barrier to God 
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So the more faith you have, the 
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to do. 
That's what Jesus is saying. 

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Since this generation that he's 
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faithless. 
So far, they haven't been able 

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to cast The Demon out. 
Verse 24, immediately the father

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of the child cried out. 
So the father here is crying 

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out, a deep Cry of faith and he 
says, I do have faith, help, the

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little faith I have. 
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or more literal version of that 
would be, I believe, help my 

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unbelief. 
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I believe, help my unbelief. 
We're probably all in the same 

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position. 
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he does not yet have the 
complete faith that he should 

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have, but he does believe that 
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So he asked Jesus to have mercy 
on him despite his imperfect 

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faith and to get him to the 
greater level of faith that he 

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knows he needs. 
So he knows the Jesus. 

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Can heal his son. 
He knows that Jesus can give him

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more faith. 
And he, he asks, Jesus for those

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things. 
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Jesus hasn't cast out the demon 
yet and he sees how many people 

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were pressing around him. 
So, people are coming from all 

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over to watch this, spectacle, 
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Jesus, in response to that. 
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This can't go any longer. 
I can't have too many people 

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seeing this. 
So we decided to do the exorcism

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on the spot. 
Normally, he, if this was the 

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situation, he didn't want the 
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He takes the person away in 
private, but he can't do that 

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with the boy because the boy is 
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So to get it over and done with 
this quick as possible. 

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Jesus just does the exes 
exorcism now, so that not too 

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many people, see it. 
And here's what he says, deaf 

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and dumb Spirit. 
Now, that's interesting. 

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We learned that the, it's 
causing both deafness and and 

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dumbness in the boy, I command 
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He says, I command you. 
So that's like a military 

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command and the demon is going 
to have to submit to it. 

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Come out of him and never enter 
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So that last part is important 
because as we know from 

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elsewhere in the gospels, 
sometimes, when demons are cast 

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out, they can come back. 
But Jesus here, commands, the 

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demon. 
You're never allowed to come 

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back to this boy. 
First 26, throwing the boy into 

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convulsions. 
It came out shouting, so the 

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demons putting up a fight. 
It doesn't want to leave. 

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And it's probably tormented by 
Jesus hear it screaming because 

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it's being tormented. 
This is actually the final 

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exorcism in the gospel of Mark. 
There are no more after this 

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point. 
The boy lie there like a corpse.

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Why is the boy lying there? 
He's probably passed out. 

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He's probably looking pretty 
pale, and he's passed out, and 

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people think he's dead verse 27.
Jesus took him by the hand and 

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helped him up. 
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theological principle. 
They are not only just Jesus 

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cast out the evil, he replaces 
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which is himself. 
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First 28. 
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incident when he'd gone indoors 
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whatever house is staying at 
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See him in the disciples in 
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privately. 
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out? 
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the Apostle's have been able to 
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because Jesus gave him gave them
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authority to do it. 
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one? 
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Verse 29. 
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that tells us that there are 
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basically hadn't been praying 
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Maybe they become reliant on 
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had stopped praying, and they've
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like a magic formula and they'd 
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probably also a general 
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some demons are harder to cast 
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sometimes you need certain kinds
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prayers in order to cast them 
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Sometimes the demon can only be 
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that does appear to still be a 
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Now, this last verse here, this 
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through prayer, some manuscripts
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out through prayer and fasting. 
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have doesn't say that, but it's 
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that fasting was a spiritual 
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in the Book of Tobit. 
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demon in connection with fasting
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So that's your passage quite an 
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Where does this appear in the 
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Probably not in the sections, 
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You would think that there would
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The catechism says, here about 
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but actually, that doesn't get 
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teaching on those things. 
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couple of other places. 
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section on prayer. 
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the father and gives thanks 
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So he teaches us, fill your 
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prayer, believe that you will 
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the power of Prayer. 
And have faith that does not 

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doubt. 
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who is who believes Jesus is a 
saddened by the lack of faith of

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his own neighbors. 
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there. 
So you'll hear their the 

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reference to Jesus 
disappointment in the people's 

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lack of faith. 
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Catholic, teaching about how we 
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And then in paragraph 16 to. 
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in the section about how we need
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says, faith is an entirely free 
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We can lose this Priceless gift 
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Timothy wage, the good Warfare 
holding faith and a good 

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conscience. 
By rejecting conscience, certain

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person's have made shipwreck of 
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To live grow and persevere in 
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We must nourish it with the word
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We must beg the Lord to increase
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And then it goes on from there. 
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there, there is 2. 
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increase my faith. 
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