1 00:00:11,300 --> 00:00:13,900 Hi everyone. Welcome back to our podcast 2 00:00:14,100 --> 00:00:15,300 today. If you go to mass, you'll hear 3 00:00:15,300 --> 00:00:17,600 from quite an interesting reading and there's a bit to say 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,500 about this one, so we're going to get straight into it. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,800 We're looking at Mark chapter 8, verses 27 to 33 Jesus and his 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,000 disciples left for the villages around caesarea Philippi. 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,100 On the way, he put this question to his disciples, who do people 8 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:40,700 say that I am? And they told him John the 9 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:45,200 Baptist they said others Elijah others again, one of the 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,000 prophets. But you here asked, who do you 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,600 say that I am. Peter spoke up and said to him, 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,400 you are the Christ and he gave them strict orders. 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,300 Not to tell anyone about him. and he began to teach them that 14 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:04,400 the son of man was destined to suffer grievously to be rejected 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,800 by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and to 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,800 be put to death and after three days to rise again and he said 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:18,300 all this quite openly, Then taking him aside, Peter started 18 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:21,900 to remonstrate with him. But turning and seeing his 19 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:26,600 disciples, he rebuked Peter and said to him, get behind me 20 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,300 Satan. Because the way you think is not 21 00:01:29,300 --> 00:01:38,100 God's way but man's So a somewhat well-known passage 22 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:40,500 here, particularly because of that, last bit to get behind me. 23 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:42,500 Satan. Well, let's start at the start 24 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:45,400 so they leave for the villages around, caesarea Philippi. 25 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,700 So, Jesus is starting Ministry in the new area is going to 26 00:01:49,700 --> 00:01:54,800 caesarea Philippi, which is about 25 miles, Northeast of the 27 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Galilee region. So, it's in a region of Israel 28 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,200 called galantis or Galah. Notice is the correct 29 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,600 pronunciation. So, there were in their state or 30 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,900 region of Galilee. That's where he's been most of 31 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:08,199 the time. Now he's going to the region of 32 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:12,500 Galore notice on the way he put this question to his disciples. 33 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:14,900 So this is a conversation they're having on the road as 34 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:16,700 they approached caesarea Philippi. 35 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,200 So, Jesus has been concealing his identity for some time. 36 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,900 Remember, all the times where he says, don't tell anyone who I 37 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:29,600 am, now he thinks the time is right to ask his disciples if 38 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,000 they've worked out who he is or not. 39 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:34,400 So he starts by asking them, who do men say that? 40 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,700 I am probably. Jesus knows the answer to this 41 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:39,500 question. He knows what the crowds think 42 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:41,700 of him. He just wants to establish some 43 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:44,200 common ground for the rest of the conversation and often. 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,200 That's how Jesus Works. He asks a question and then he 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,400 uses that That as a springboard for a teaching opportunity. 46 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:53,600 Also, they're approaching a region here in caesarea 47 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Philippi, which was quite well known for worshipping false 48 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,800 gods. So it's quite an appropriate 49 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,700 question to ask. So verse 28, the disciples Now 50 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:06,300 list, some different identities that people have been saying 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,500 that this is who Jesus was so they list. 52 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:11,700 John, the Baptist Elijah or a profit. 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,900 These are the same three possibilities that we 54 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:16,200 encountered earlier. If you remember in the incident 55 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,600 with King Herod, When King Herod beheaded John, the Baptist the 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,600 same three possibilities were listed. 57 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:27,500 This man is John, the Baptist, he is Elijah or he's a prophet. 58 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:31,700 Notice these three thing. These three figures all have 59 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:34,000 something in common. They're all Preparatory for the 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,300 Messiah. So it appears that none of the 61 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:40,200 crowd has said he's the Messiah, no one's gone that far yet, but 62 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,600 the crowd is saying that he could be one of those figures 63 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,200 that's identified with getting ready for the Messiah. 64 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:48,600 So John, the Baptist was known as the spirit filled man, and 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,600 the Jews. Perhaps? 66 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,000 Think that in some way maybe he's like a John, the Baptist 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,200 resurrected, or something, or maybe his Elijah and there's 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,500 prophecies in the Old Testament. Estimate, which do predict that 69 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:03,900 Elijah will return to before the Messianic, kingdom is ushered in 70 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,700 and Elijah performed Miracles. Jesus performed Miracles. 71 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:10,400 So that makes sense. And the third possibility, 72 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,300 people think that he is a prophet. 73 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,300 So the Jews did have prophets in the Old Testament and they 74 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:17,700 believe that a prophet could still come again. 75 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,300 So some of the crowd was saying. Yeah, this guy's a prophet but 76 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:23,100 apparently no one saying he's the Messiah. 77 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:29,000 Verse 29, Jesus says to the disciples, but who do you say 78 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 that I am? And in the Greek? 79 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:34,200 That is how it reads. It's quite emphatic on the you, 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,600 it reads something like this. But you, who do you say that? 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,100 I am. So, he's directing it at them. 82 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,400 This is the most important question and Mark is probably 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,500 trying to direct this to all of his readers. 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,500 If people have been reading the gospel of Mark, right up to this 85 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:52,400 point, they've seen all the things you've that is done. 86 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,100 Then this is the They're faced with and that's the question 87 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:57,900 mark. Now wants his readers to think 88 00:04:57,900 --> 00:04:59,200 about. Who do you say that? 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,000 I am and that's why he includes this episode here. 90 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,700 Verse 29, Peter spoke up. So it's significant that Peter 91 00:05:06,700 --> 00:05:09,700 speaks up his speaking on behalf of the Apostles, which shows 92 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:12,900 that he is the leader. And here's what he says. 93 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:17,200 One of the most profound things he ever says, you are the Christ 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,600 now, that's huge. The word Christ means Messiah. 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,500 So, what he's just said, is literally, you are the Messiah 96 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:29,400 The Jews have been waiting for the Messiah for sometime and 97 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,000 Peter. Now stands there and says, you 98 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,800 are the Messiah. We've been waiting for, which is 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,100 huge because the rest of the crowds did not recognize Jesus 100 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:40,000 as the Messiah. So this great confession of 101 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Peter is appears in all four gospels in some form. 102 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,100 And we know from Matthew's gospel that as soon as Jesus the 103 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:51,100 story as soon as Peter says you are the Christ Jesus says back 104 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:55,000 to him blessed are you for flesh and blood has not revealed This 105 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:59,000 but my heavenly father and then he goes on to say you are the 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,600 rock on which I will build my church. 107 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:03,700 We don't have that in Mark's version but we'll unpack that 108 00:06:03,700 --> 00:06:07,400 promise about The Rock when we get to it in Matthews version. 109 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:11,100 Verse 30 and he gave them strict orders. 110 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:14,300 Not to tell anyone about him. So, even now Jesus is still 111 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:16,400 preserving. The Messianic secret, he doesn't 112 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,300 want people, he doesn't want the apostles to spread the news that 113 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:23,500 Jesus is the Messiah. That would cause a frenzy. 114 00:06:23,500 --> 00:06:26,000 Because remember, people at the time, thought that the Messiah 115 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,300 was going to be political or military leader, and he doesn't 116 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:31,500 want things to go down that way. He has a timeline. 117 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:36,300 He wants to stick to So Scholars would say that this what we just 118 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:40,700 heard their ends, what's kind of the first half of Mark which is 119 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:42,900 all about discovering Jesus identity. 120 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,400 The theme all throughout this first part of Mark has been, who 121 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,200 is this? Jesus guy? 122 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,700 Look at all the things he can do and now it's culminates in G's 123 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:53,700 in Peter saying you are the Christ. 124 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:57,100 So now we move into the second half in a way of the Gospel of 125 00:06:57,100 --> 00:07:01,100 Mark and the theme of the second half is about his suffering and 126 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:03,600 Glory. Most of the second half is 127 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:08,700 recounting the final week of Jesus life verse 31 and he began 128 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:11,900 to teach them. So began to teach them implies 129 00:07:11,900 --> 00:07:14,200 that he's constantly teaching them this from now on. 130 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,400 It appears that the trigger for him to start teaching them is 131 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Peter's confession, we might miss that in their text, but it 132 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,100 seems like that's what's happened. 133 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,900 Now, that peed on behalf of the Apostle says, recognize that 134 00:07:27,900 --> 00:07:31,100 Jesus is the Messiah. Jesus now goes, okay good. 135 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:33,600 You are now ready for more information and he starts to 136 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,000 share his Destiny with them so he says to them. 137 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,300 The son of man was destined. So Jesus teaches them these 138 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:43,200 things from the perspective of Prophecy. 139 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,100 He's not really, is not really saying I'm going to suffer. 140 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:50,500 He wants the focus to be on the Messiah. 141 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,300 So Jesus is saying something like this according to God's 142 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:57,500 Plan of Salvation as made clear in the Old Testament. 143 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,800 All of these things must happen to the son of man and the word 144 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,700 he used, the is that's destined in the our translation in 145 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:07,600 another translation is actually a must. 146 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:11,500 So Jesus wants his disciples to understand that these things 147 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:14,200 that he's about to list must. Happen. 148 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,900 They're not accidents or tragedies though. 149 00:08:16,900 --> 00:08:19,600 They appear to be, and this is supposed to be a thing of Hope 150 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,900 for them. So later when Jesus is 151 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,500 persecuted and killed, his disciples are supposed to 152 00:08:25,508 --> 00:08:29,700 remember that he told them that these things must happen and 153 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:31,200 that's supposed to give them Comfort. 154 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,900 Apparently, they didn't remember this though, unfortunately. 155 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Now when he's uses the term son of man here, that's another name 156 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,799 for the Messiah, but it's a particular name for the Messiah, 157 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:49,000 from the Old Testament, from The Book of Daniel, and basically, 158 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,700 to say son of man to the Jews, that Jesus is time that would 159 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:55,600 have recalled images of both, humiliation and Glory. 160 00:08:55,900 --> 00:08:59,400 So Jesus wants the disciples to see the Messiah as one who's 161 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,400 going to suffer humiliation but then be glorified, he continues 162 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,000 to use the word son of man, all throughout the gospel of Mark, 163 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,800 from this point on So he says to them, the son of man must suffer 164 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,100 grievously which we know does happen and to be rejected by the 165 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:17,600 chief priests and the scribes. And this is the group of Jewish 166 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,600 leaders who should have accepted Jesus. 167 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:23,800 Jesus says, this is the group that's going to reject him to be 168 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,200 put to death. And after three days to rise 169 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,200 again, notice how specific all of this prophecy is Jesus knows 170 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,600 that he's going to suffer, he's going to be rejected by the 171 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,500 chief priests and the elders. He's going to die and he's going 172 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:38,900 to rise again in three days. That's Such specific prophecies. 173 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:42,000 None of this was an accident. Jesus knew exactly how it was 174 00:09:42,008 --> 00:09:44,400 going to go down and he's sharing it with the apostles 175 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,600 beforehand. There's something really 176 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,700 interesting I came across in my research here is what's the go 177 00:09:50,700 --> 00:09:54,000 with three days if you think about a Jesus could have stayed 178 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,000 in the Tomb for as long as he wanted, he could have stayed in. 179 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 For one day, he could have stayed in for 10 days. 180 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Could have stadium for seven days because the seven is the 181 00:10:02,408 --> 00:10:05,800 number of perfection. So there must be some meaning in 182 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,900 Jesus being in the Tomb for three days. 183 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,200 And it appears that there is if you remember a couple of times 184 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,400 in the gospel of Mark and particularly the gospel of 185 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,000 Matthew we've talked about Out how Jesus recapitulates, the 186 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,100 story of Israel. So jesus takes things that have 187 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:27,600 really happened to Israel in their past and he does them 188 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,500 himself, he embodies them in himself in an interesting way. 189 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:34,200 So for example, the Jews spend time in Egypt in the book of 190 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,700 Exodus, well, Jesus spends time in Egypt as a child, and the 191 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:43,100 Jews spent 40 years wandering in the wilderness, Jesus spends 40 192 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:45,200 days, wandering in the wilderness as well. 193 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,500 So, It might be another example of that and the key reference. 194 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:52,500 And this I find this fascinating Hosea, 6, verse 12. 195 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:56,500 To says, this is one of the prophets in the Old Testament. 196 00:10:57,100 --> 00:11:00,400 He will revive us. After two days, on the third 197 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,100 day, God will rise. Raise us up to live in his 198 00:11:04,100 --> 00:11:07,100 presence. So, in the context that God 199 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,600 gives, that that Hosea, gives that prophecy. 200 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:14,600 Basically Jose saying that God will raise up Israel after 201 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,100 suffering. So he doesn't literally mean 202 00:11:17,100 --> 00:11:20,300 three days Hosea, but it's sort of a poetic way of saying after 203 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:23,000 your suffering. God will raise you up and Israel 204 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,700 did indeed go through suffering, but Jesus applies, this to 205 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:28,900 himself. This would be a prophecy that 206 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:30,300 they would be familiar with the Jews. 207 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:34,100 And Jesus says, after my suffering, I will be raised 208 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:37,700 again after three days. So he takes this sort of small 209 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:40,100 prophecy hidden in one of the Minor Prophets of the Old 210 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:42,300 Testament. Ant and he gives it a completely 211 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:44,500 new amazingly literal fulfillment. 212 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,200 Just as Israel. Poetically was raised again, 213 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,400 after three days after their suffering in the Old Testament, 214 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,500 Jesus himself would literally be raised after three days. 215 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,900 And I think that this is actually the key verse. 216 00:11:57,900 --> 00:12:00,200 There's probably others in the Old Testament, but I think this 217 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:06,000 is the key reason why Jesus had to spend three days in the Tomb 218 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,000 because he's recapitulating, the story of Israel. 219 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,800 So really interesting, isn't it? It. 220 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,200 So Jesus knows how the timeline is going to go down and it's 221 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,000 unfortunate that disciples. Don't recall. 222 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,400 All the things he says to them here. 223 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,700 Verse 32 says and he said this quite openly that's probably not 224 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:26,000 a very good translation because that implies that he's speaking 225 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,400 to the whole crowds or something. 226 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:31,300 A more literal translation is he said this plainly as in his 227 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:33,600 being very direct with his Apostles, he's not hiding 228 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,700 anything about his Destiny. Unlike The Parables, he has been 229 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:40,400 speaking in his actually very open and playing about what he's 230 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,400 saying. So now here comes Peter, Peter 231 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,100 took him aside and started to remonstrate with him. 232 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,900 Another translation is rebuked him. 233 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:55,600 Peter is rebuking Jesus. So, why is Peter doing it? 234 00:12:56,300 --> 00:12:59,900 Well, it seems like Peter thinks Jesus is a bit crazy. 235 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:01,400 He's saying something like this to. 236 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,200 Jesus. What's gotten into you? 237 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,400 You're the Messiah. You're not going to die. 238 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:08,400 So, Peter is certainly showing some presumption here. 239 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,000 He is. Showing a presumption of a 240 00:13:10,008 --> 00:13:14,400 disciple who feels like he needs to correct his master, probably 241 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,900 Jesus Peters lowest moment or one of them because he, you 242 00:13:17,900 --> 00:13:19,900 know, he denies Jesus three times as well. 243 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:22,700 Why is what speed is big deal here? 244 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:25,500 Why does he react so strongly when Jesus says, oh, I'm going 245 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:28,600 to be persecuted and killed. Well, think about what the Jews 246 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,200 believed about the Messiah at the time. 247 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,400 So, Peter believes Jesus is the Messiah. 248 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,300 We know that from what he's just said. 249 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,500 But at the time, the Jews didn't understand the suffering aspect, 250 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:43,700 or the suffering servant aspect of the Messiah, which is in the 251 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:46,900 Old Testament, but there's other parts of the Old Testament, 252 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:50,600 which predict that the Messiah is going to be more of a ruler 253 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,600 or a Victorious military leader, who will restore Israel. 254 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:59,300 And that was the kind of Messiah the Jews tended to focus on at 255 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:01,100 the time. And that was apparently the 256 00:14:01,100 --> 00:14:03,500 image that Peter had about the Messiah. 257 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,200 So he's thinking, I up, Jesus is the messiah. 258 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:08,100 He's going to restore Israel. It's going to be awesome. 259 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:11,600 It's going to be glorious. And now Jesus says, actually I'm 260 00:14:11,608 --> 00:14:15,000 going to die and so Peters, like don't be stupid, don't be silly, 261 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,600 you're the Messiah. That's not going to happen. 262 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:22,100 Verse 33. So what's Jesus responds? 263 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,300 He doesn't just turn around and blast, Peter straight away. 264 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:30,800 Notice verse 33 says, Jesus turned and saw his disciples, so 265 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,300 that's Jesus motivation for what he's about to say. 266 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,400 So, it appears that Jesus looks at the disciples and he is 267 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,500 doesn't want them to be led astray by what Peter is saying. 268 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:43,600 By his false kind of outburst here. 269 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,900 So Jesus wants to keep the disciples on track Peters their 270 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:49,200 leader and they have a tendency to follow him which is a good 271 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,300 thing. But in this case, Peter is 272 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:53,100 mistaken. And so Jesus looks at the 273 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:56,500 disciples realizes that he needs to stand up and do something 274 00:14:56,500 --> 00:15:04,700 here and he says, Get Behind Me. Satan So firstly, who's Jesus is 275 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:06,700 talking to you? There's two possible 276 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:10,300 interpretations the most obvious interpretation. 277 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:13,000 This is the one that most people have gone with is that Jesus 278 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,400 perceives. The Satan is influencing Peter. 279 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,600 So, Jesus is actually talking to Satan. 280 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,800 So it could be that when Satan saw Peter had confessed Jesus as 281 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,400 the Messiah. So Satan saw that being a 282 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,700 powerful being, he immediately went no we can't have that. 283 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:30,000 We can't have Jesus. We can't have Peter recognizing 284 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,100 Jesus as the Messiah. I'm going to confuse Peter And 285 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:36,300 then he sort of in a way influence Peter to have this 286 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,800 doubtful outburst. That's the explanation. 287 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Most people have gone with. However, there could be a 288 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,000 different one. The word Satan in Greek, 289 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:51,000 although it can refer to one specific individual Satan, it 290 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,800 literally just means adversary adversary so it could be. 291 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,500 That Jesus is actually just talking to Peter here and he's 292 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:01,500 not implying. That Peter is possessed by Satan 293 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:05,200 or something, he's just saying get behind me adversary and he's 294 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,000 saying it to Peter. Either one of those 295 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,200 interpretations could be right or maybe both of them at the 296 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,200 same time. What does he mean when he says 297 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,500 get behind me? It's kind of like a military 298 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:20,700 command and the idea is Jesus is saying to either Satan or Peter 299 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:25,000 here fall in line, fall in line, get behind me. 300 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:31,400 So the basic idea here is Jesus says, I outrank you you need to 301 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,100 follow me rather than you trying to lead me because Peter has 302 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:38,600 just taken him aside and said, no, Jesus, that's not right. 303 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,200 And now, Peter and they are. Jesus says to Peter. 304 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,200 I rank. Outrank, you fall in line, get 305 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,000 behind me. You need to follow me, rather 306 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,800 than trying to Lead Me. so given that it could apply to either 307 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,600 Jesus or Peter, but it seems to make the most sense to say that 308 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Jesus is addressing this to Peter specifically and then you 309 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,100 finish this by saying the way you think is not God's way but 310 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:05,700 man's way. So the fact that Peter doesn't 311 00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:09,000 believe that Jesus will die because he's the Messiah is 312 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,099 worldly thinking that's how most you thought and Jesus says 313 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:16,400 that's man's way, but you need to think in God's way as in, you 314 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,300 need to think about God's Plan of Salvation and his truth. 315 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:24,500 So, that's the reading. I hope you found it really 316 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:26,900 interesting. How does the Catholic Church? 317 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:29,600 Develop teachings? Based on this, while there's a 318 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,100 few places because this declaration of Peter saying, you 319 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:35,600 are the Messiah, obviously, then informs a lot of Catholic 320 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,400 teaching about Jesus identity paragraph 557, there's a 321 00:17:40,408 --> 00:17:44,500 discussion about how Jesus predicts his own death, several 322 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:46,200 times in Mark and that's references. 323 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,300 This passage. Parker 474 in the discussion 324 00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:55,300 about Christ's human knowledge says, by its Union to the Divine 325 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:59,200 wisdom, in the person of the word incarnate Christ enjoyed in 326 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,100 his human knowledge, the fullness of understanding of the 327 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:05,100 Eternal plans, he had come to reveal. 328 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:10,900 And the reference here is true. The passage in Mark when Jesus 329 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:14,200 is able to predict his own death and Resurrection, the catechism 330 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,000 takes that as evidence that Jesus did have Divine knowledge, 331 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,600 Divine superhuman knowledge, which makes sense. 332 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:25,700 In paragraph 5 7 2, which is in the section about the commentary 333 00:18:25,700 --> 00:18:27,700 on. Jesus, suffered under Pontius. 334 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:32,300 Pilate was crucified died and was buried paragraph. 572 said, 335 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:36,800 Jesus sufferings took their historical concrete form from 336 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,600 the fact that he was rejected by the elders and the chief priests 337 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:43,500 and the scribes and you hear their, that quote is actually 338 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:46,700 direct reference back to Mark chapter 8 year when Jesus 339 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:49,400 predicted the group of people that would reject him and the 340 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,500 catechism said yes he was indeed. 341 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,200 Acted by that group of Jewish leaders. 342 00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:59,400 And then finally, there's a brief discussion of it in 343 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,700 paragraph. 649 about the resurrection which says, As for 344 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:06,400 the sun, he affects his own Resurrection by virtue of his 345 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,400 divine power. Jesus announces that the son of 346 00:19:09,408 --> 00:19:13,300 man will have much to suffer die and then rise. 347 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:16,800 And of course, they're the reference is to Mark chapter 8 348 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:20,600 where Jesus announces that those things will happen to him. 349 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:25,100 So I'll put all those catechism references into the show notes, 350 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:26,000 and there's some quite good ones. 351 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,200 There that link. Go to our passage from Mark 352 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,600 chapter 8 today. Thanks again for listening. 353 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,000 Hope you learn something new. I certainly did as I was doing 354 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,300 the research about the three days thing. 355 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:40,000 I've never heard of that before, and I never thought about why 356 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Jesus had to be in there for three days. 357 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,800 And I think this explanation makes sense. 358 00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:47,600 I'd love to hear from you guys. If you have any questions please 359 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,200 send them through to the email address. 360 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,100 Logical Bible study at gmail.com or we can leave a voice message 361 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:54,800 as well. All of that is in the show 362 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,300 notes, we'll see you again tomorrow.