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Hi everyone, welcome back to the
logical. 

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Bible study podcast, where we do
an exegesis of them. 

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The Gospel reading from today's 
mass and we are up to Mark, 

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chapter 7, verse 24 to 30, which
is what you'll hear it Master 

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day. 
So as always, we'll start by 

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reading the passage and then 
we'll dive in and have a look at

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what it meant in its original 
context, which is actually 

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pretty important with this 
particular passage because this 

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is one where Jesus has been 
interpreted by many people. 

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Has been quite rude and 
dismissive. so, Mark chapter 7, 

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Jesus left ganesa, Rhett and set
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there. 
He went into a house and did not

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want anyone to know he was 
there, but he could not pass 

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unrecognized. 
A woman, whose little daughter 

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had an unclean Spirit heard 
about him, straight away and 

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came and fell at his feet. 
Now, the woman was a pagan by 

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Bertha syrophoenician and she 
begged him to cast The Devil out

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of her daughter. 
And he said to her, the children

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should be fed first because it 
is not fair to take the 

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children's food and throw it to 
the house dogs. 

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But she spoke up. 
I yes, sir, she replied, but the

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house dogs under the table can 
eat the children's scraps. 

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And he said to her for saying 
this you may go home Happy, the 

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devil has gone out of your 
daughter. 

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So, she went off to her home and
found the child lying on the bed

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and the devil gone. 
So let's start by the context 

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and what has come just before 
this, in Mark's gospel because 

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that's really important with 
this passage. 

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So, just before this, there was 
that Jesus talked about the 

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food, the ritual laws, no longer
applying he declared all foods 

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clean, according to Mark. 
So Jesus has just declared that.

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Nothing external can defile a 
person. 

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So, and that implies this strict
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between Jews and Gentiles, no 
longer applies. 

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So, the barrier that that used 
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Gentiles was, particularly 
evident when a table because 

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Jews were not allowed to eat 
with Gentiles. 

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That's going to come in quite 
important. 

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In this story, verse 24 is the 
start of our passage. 

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It says Jesus left ganesa rest 
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Now the actual texture of your 
reader. 

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Another translation it doesn't 
actually say Jesus left 

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anywhere. 
It doesn't specify where he left

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the location of where Jesus left
is unknown because the previous 

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In which Jesus talked about the 
food laws, it's not entirely 

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clear, whether that is. 
So the lectionary that we hear 

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from has just added in the word 
ganesa, it to make it a bit more

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readable than just though. 
Translate is just sort of said, 

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okay? 
We'll just pick your nests or it

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because that's a spot nearby and
it helps the story flow a bit 

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better. 
But just keep in mind that 

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sometimes the lectionary puts in
sort of joining words to make 

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things flow a bit smoother that 
weren't actually in the original

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Greek. 
And it says he, he sets out for 

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the territory of sight of tire. 
So tire is a large Gentile 

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territory about 40 miles, north 
to the north of Galilee and it 

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provides an appropriate setting 
for the account because it's 

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mostly Gentile area. 
If you look at a map to date, I 

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would be on the coast of 
Lebanon. 

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So Jesus enters a house which 
probably means someone's 

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welcomed him in. 
That's what if Jesus is entering

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a house entire. 
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Gentiles must have accepted the 
gospel and has welcomed him into

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the house and he does not want 
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So this was a new region for 
Jesus, but he's probably already

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famous their word has already 
spread as we know throughout the

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entire area. 
And so people have heard about 

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Jesus and Jesus, if he's going 
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this stage to go Incognito, 
because he knows that if word 

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gets out that he's there, then 
there's going to be a huge crowd

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and you won't be able to get 
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Jesus, it appears does not yet 
want to do Mass preaching to the

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Gentiles, but his 
three-and-a-half-year ministries

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his preaching is basically for 
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He doesn't want to do an 
official Ministry to the 

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Gentiles as such But the text 
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So, apparently large crowds 
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trying to hide, Verse 25 were 
introduced to a woman, whose 

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little daughter had an unclean 
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So this woman is coming asking 
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Child, not for herself. 
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So she's not selfishly asking 
for her own healing. 

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She's coming on behalf of her 
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And she hears about him and came
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So, this is both an actor Faith 
because she hears about him and 

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she believes he can do something
about it and she's and 

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Desperation as well. 
She's falling at his feet and 

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Mark, says, the woman was a 
pagan and another translation 

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there would be Greek. 
The woman was a Greek. 

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So in other words, she's a 
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not to her birthplace but to her
religion and her culture, she's 

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from the Greek Gentile culture. 
Why does Market Play this. 

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Well, Mark is writing for 
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Gentile readers to pay 
particular attention to this 

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story. 
So you can imagine his Gentile 

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readers when they first read. 
This would have set up and paid 

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attention and said, oh, that. 
That's kind of like me. 

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I'm a gentile. 
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this woman is by birth, a 
syrophoenician meaning she was 

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born in Syria, a region to the 
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And she begs him to cast The 
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Jesus has this strange response 
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He says the children should be 
fed first because it is not fair

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to take the children's food and 
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Now this at first glance seems 
pretty out of character for 

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Jesus because he actually says 
no to the healing basically, and

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it's also seems can be can come 
across as quite rude because he 

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appears to be calling her a dog.
So the terms here need a bit of 

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unpacking. 
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that the Jews did not 
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attitude towards the Gentile. 
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historical period, the general 
attitude, the Jews had about 

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Gentiles was Of favorable and 
was common for them to refer to 

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Gentiles as dogs. 
Keep in mind, this is a culture,

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which is quite direct. 
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political correctness. 
There would just say what they 

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meant and generally people 
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It was just, you said what you 
thought about it, and that was 

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it. 
So, it could be. 

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That Jesus is just saying. 
Yeah, Gentiles are dogs. 

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That is true, in a sense. 
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Jesus message of Salvation, he 
makes it clear on several 

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occasions that his primary 
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He's not particularly 
interested. 

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That's perhaps not the right 
word of to use here but he 

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hasn't come for the Jews and 
anything he's going to do for 

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the Gentiles is secondary, his 
primary focus is on the Jews and

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so that's that will be an 
initial level. 

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However I think there's more 
going on here when Jesus uses 

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the term dog and children. 
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children when Jesus says, the 
children should be fed first 

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while the children represent the
Jews, the people of Israel and 

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you can look there at Exodus 422
where God calls the Jews, his 

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children, and also Hosea 21. 
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children are like that. 
Jews are like the children at a 

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table. 
Imagine a house table, we've got

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adults, and then children around
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And then we have the word dog 
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house, dog. 
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kind Ariane and it's more 
accurately translated small 

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household puppies. 
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Not a wild, ruthless dog. 
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That's part of the family, kind 
of a A small puppy in the house.

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So, imagine you've got a family 
sitting around the table, eating

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dinner. 
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and then you've got the dog on 
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So at a meal time, these 
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They did actually get food, but 
only after the people at the 

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table have had their fill and 
this is the meaning Jesus is 

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driving it. 
So Jesus is using this word, dog

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is actually making quite a 
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Profound theological point. 
So what he's saying is all are 

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welcome at the Masters. 
Abel. 

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So the Gentiles and this woman 
are not excluded from the table,

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but the kingdom of God, and that
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casting out demons is first to 
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Jesus is saying that, that the 
kingdom of God and all that 

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entails has come first for the 
Jews who were the children 

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around the table. 
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should be given first to the 
Jews, implies that later, the 

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Gentiles will get a share in the
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Jesus had a particular mission 
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acknowledge that he has come 
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of God, to the Jews. 
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Although he did, you know, he 
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Eventually, that was primarily 
the job of the Apostles in his 

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short three and a half human 
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It was just for the Jews. 
So by saying by Jesus saying 

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it's not right to give the food 
to the dogs, he's not just 

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shutting the woman down. 
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gentlewoman know that there is a
distinction here between Jews 

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and Gentiles. 
And that if she wants to be part

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of the kingdom of God, she needs
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order to do a miracle. 
So in a sense here, Jesus is not

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shutting her down what he's 
doing. 

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He's actually asking the woman 
to go a bit further and to 

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justify her request. 
So he's testing her face. 

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In a sense. 
And her response here in verse 

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28 is yes, sir. 
And so she acknowledges she 

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agrees with him. 
She doesn't argue with him. 

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She acknowledges that what he 
said is a true principle and a 

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better translation of Sir here 
is Lord, she's the only person 

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in the entire Gospel of Mark, 
who recognizes Jesus as Lord. 

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And so she calls him Lord. 
So from this, we can gather 

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she's not just using him. 
She actually knows who he is and

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respects him as we said in an 
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There's some debate about Out 
what Lord means when it's used 

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in the gospels, because it had 
two meanings in that culture. 

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It could mean, Lord is in just 
someone above, me could also 

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mean Lord is in God. 
And so, that's a legitimate 

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meaning, either way And we don't
know which one that she means 

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here. 
So she's she says, yes, sir. 

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But the house dogs under the 
table, can eat the children 

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scraps. 
So the woman acknowledges that 

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salvation does primarily belong 
to Israel. 

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And she's willing, she says, I'm
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So this admission shows that she
is interested in the broader 

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picture of the kingdom of God. 
She's not just interested in her

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own selfish motives. 
It is quite an interesting 

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active Faith. 
This is a gentile acknowledging 

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that the Jews have first. first 
pickings of the kingdom of God, 

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this is quite a profound Insight
that she has Verse 29. 

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Jesus says for saying this you 
may go home happy or another 

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translation is you may go your 
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So we can interpret This Woman's
response as her just being 

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clever as in, she was able to 
think quickly on the spot and 

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say something clever. 
But I think Jesus understands 

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here that in order for her to 
have said this, she must have 

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great insight and Faith. 
So the woman's not just being 

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smart, she's actually showing 
great faith by acknowledging 

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that. 
She really only can have the 

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scraps but she says she's 
willing to settle for scraps of 

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the kingdom of God. 
So he says to the woman, the 

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demon has left your daughter. 
So Jesus grants healing to the 

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woman's daughter from a 
distance, which is interesting. 

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As a reward for the woman's 
Faith. 

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Perhaps, the only other time 
Jesus does heal a dip at a 

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distance here without seeing the
person. 

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It appears the only other time 
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This is with the centurions 
servant who is also a gentile in

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Matthew 8 heals the Gentile 
servant from a distance just as 

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he does to the Gentiles. 
Here. 

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So there might be some sort of 
meaning here in terms of, if 

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there are Gentile, Jesus only 
heals from a distance. 

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There might be, there might be 
some theological inside there, 

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perhaps. 
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readers to know this, at least 
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power. 
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touched him provided, they have 
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So she went off to her home and 
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the bed, and the devil gone. 
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granting the healing she desires
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the Jews, he is prepared to 
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Jesus has come to help Gentiles 
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So there's been a lot of there 
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this passage and what it means 
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wrestling with this idea of is, 
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Gentiles to. 
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theme in the book of Acts. 
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Luther in the Middle Ages. 
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passage. 
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at his words. 
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dog, but as a child of Israel, 
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Jesus chooses to treat her as 
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Israel who deserves the kingdom.
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read on a little further in 
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He actually goes on to share 
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like with Gentiles. 
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them and that's your Mark 
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So in a sense, it could be that 
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opens. 
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And all of these issues were 
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Mark is riding around 55 ad, the
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debating if and how the Gentiles
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So this passage could have quite
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significant in the early 
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implies that all people, both 
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Jesus is creating here, the 
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people of God who are from all 
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a lot of additional theological 
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this passage but hopefully the 
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of looking at the meaning of the
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See, at least what? 
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communicate on the most literal 
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How does the Catholic Church 
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passage? 
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kingdom of God is open to 
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And then also in paragraph 2616,
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what kind of prayers Jesus 
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And here's what it says prayer 
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already during his ministry 
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That anticipate the power of his
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He is the prayer of faith 
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the leper and gyrus the 
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thief or in silence such as the 
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The woman with a Hemorrhage, who
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the tears anointment of the 
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You'll hear that one of the 
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was the Canaanite woman who is 
the woman that we're talking 

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about, In this passage. 
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just as he is willing to hear 
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That's the end of today's 
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Thanks again for listening. 
Hopefully you tune in again 

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tomorrow.