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Hi, everyone. 
Welcome back to the Daily 

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gospel, exegesis podcast, 
produced, by logical Bible 

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study. 
I just wanted to take a few 

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minutes to share some feedback, 
that's coming about the 

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ministry. 
We always love to get your 

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feedback. 
And so I wanted to share some of

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the things that people are 
saying about this ministry. 

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As I've often said before, this 
is a small Ministry, there's no 

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marketing department, it's not 
supported financially by any 

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other organizations or 
Ministries. 

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So it really is a great 
Grassroots ministry, that's 

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trying to help lay Catholics 
understand their Bibles better 

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and it's working in a space 
where basically no other 

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Catholic podcast use every 
single day doing a verse by 

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verse exegesis of the Gospel 
readings. 

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So if you're enjoying this 
ministry and you want to see it 

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grow, then please share it with 
other people. 

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That's the only way this podcast
and this ministry can grow is by

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listeners. 
Like you telling other people 

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about the ministry and leaving 
positive. 

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Reviews on iTunes and YouTube. 
So here's some feedback that has

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come in from people, from 
iTunes, from YouTube, and from 

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email. 
So this is an email from a Kim 

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he says Hi logical, Bible study.
I live in Freiburg Germany. 

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Since the virtual Catholic Bible
Conference I have been listening

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to your podcast daily and I'm 
really excited. 

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I have learned so much from it. 
It is a really good 

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accompaniment to the Daily 
gospel and I always look forward

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to the word of God. 
Now, it helps me know, Jesus 

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even better and to go to mass 
even more. 

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I want to say a really big, 
thank you for what you do. 

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God bless you a Kim. 
So, thank you so much for that 

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feedback. 
It is just amazing to hear that 

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this podcast is helping you 
learn your Bible better. 

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And more importantly, it's 
drawing you closer to God. 

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It's making you want to go to 
mass more and to study the Bible

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more and that's amazing. 
Really, and that's God's work. 

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This podcast is all about 
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kingdom of God. 
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learning about God, and it's 
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So some more feedback that's 
come in Via YouTube. 

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So, this is actually some 
feedback from another Catholic 

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Bible. 
So there's a Ministry, called 

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Sunday, scripture study for 
Catholics Sunday, scripture 

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study for Catholics and that's 
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Each week there, they do one 
video podcast, looking at all 

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the readings for Sunday's Mass. 
So in our podcast on daily 

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gospel exegesis, we just look at
the gospel readings, but we do 

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it every single day. 
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for Catholics, doesn't in-depth.
Look at all of the mass readings

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on Sundays. 
So, if that's the kind of thing 

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you're looking for, I'd 
encourage you to check Check 

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them out on YouTube and so they 
left a comment saying, daily 

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gospel exegesis is a great 
podcast, it deserves to be more 

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widely. 
Listen to I listen to every 

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episode and share it daily on 
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Thank you so much. 
It's so great to hear that other

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established Catholic bible 
ministries are starting to hear 

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this podcast and they're 
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So this next one is a longer 
email that I received from 

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someone called Deacon Nick. 
So I just want to share some 

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parts of the email he sent 
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He had some specific questions 
that I was able to help him 

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with. 
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from him, he says, hello. 
I recently discovered this 

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podcast and I'm finding it very 
helpful in reading and praying 

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the daily gospel. 
I shared it with my wife and she

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loves it too. 
We live in the northwest corner 

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of the United States and we love
talking about the insights, you 

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given the podcast. 
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I would love to know what 
resources, you use to help in 

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your exegesis. 
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always looking for materials 
that will help me prepare 

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homilies and better engage with 
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His. 
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more questions there about the 
resources I use and how I go 

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about doing exegesis. 
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Deacon Nick, to a special bonus 
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I have available on our patreon 
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behind the scenes look of the 
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So I talk you through. 
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What resources are used? 
How I eventually came to start 

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this podcast so if that's 
something you've always wondered

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about that bonus episode is 
available to you through anyone 

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who gives any amount on the 
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So I'd encourage you to check 
that out and the link for that 

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is in the show notes so dick and
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other things. 
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days after discovering your 
podcast, I've been doing my own 

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exegesis before listening to 
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my notes to your analysis to see
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where I might have a different 
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It's been very helpful to me, as
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determining, the literal sense 
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I will be sharing your podcast 
with my teachers and other 

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Educators in our diocese and on 
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think you're doing a great 
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Nick. 
Thank you so much for these 

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comments. 
I'm so glad I'm able to help 

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particularly priests and deacons
And the Bible and I've been able

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to provide you with some 
resources and some ways to think

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about the literal sense of 
scripture that helps you in your

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ministry, your important 
Ministry of the word to people 

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in the church and thank you so 
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with others in your diocese. 
And for the last bit of feedback

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today, I wanted to share this 
interesting email that's come 

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in. 
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You can make of it what you will
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finish on. 
So I'll keep the author of this 

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one Anonymous. 
They say hello. 

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I've been listening to your 
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For the last year. 
Absolutely, love the way you 

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break down the readings. 
One thing I have always had a 

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hard time. 
Grasping is exorcism being in 

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tune with science. 
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questionable and questioning the
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priests makes me feel uneasy. 
This came up last week with one 

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of the readings and again this 
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the Gospel with the demon iock 
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As I was driving, questioning 
this occurrence, a car driving 

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in the opposite direction. 
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straight towards me. 
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slamming on the brakes wasn't an
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I quickly looked to the right 
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and a fire hydrant, right? 
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I swerved hard missed the 
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got away. 
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the other driver was, God, 
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Did God bring me to safety? 
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I am a believer and thank God 
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to the kingdom. 
Thanks for all your hard work 

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anonymous. 
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his own question there. 
It's a really interesting story 

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about the car swerving and we're
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make of that, whether that was 
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who knows really? 
But thank you so much for 

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writing in and I'm so glad that 
this podcast has helped you make

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a links to things like this in 
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And as you said, it's helping 
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So this is just a sample of the 
different feedback that we've 

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been receiving. 
The ministry is slowly growing, 

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but we need your help and we 
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And I'd ask you to prayerfully 
consider becoming a financial 

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supporter of the ministry. 
And you can do that through the 

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patreon page, the link for that 
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Not only will you be supporting 
the ministry and helping us plan

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for the future, but there's also
a whole lot of bonus episodes 

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you can get access to. 
So if you're willing to give $10

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a month, then you can get access
to all of the bonus exegesis 

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episodes where we go through. 
Parts of the gospels that are 

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never read at mass. 
And if you are willing to give 

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$20 a month or more, then you 
can get access to the audio 

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recordings where I talk through 
the catechism of the Catholic 

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church. 
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So if you've ever wanted to 
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church in a systematic way, you 
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And so this is a Ministry that 
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it does take a lot of time and 
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Nation. 
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investing in, then please I'd 
ask you to consider becoming a 

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financial supporter through the 
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But in any case, please keep 
telling people about the 

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Ministry. 
Thanks so much for your support 

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and let's get into today's 
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Hi everyone. 
Welcome back to the logical. 

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Bible study podcast. 
And today, we're looking at a 

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passage from Matthew chapter 9, 
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So as always, we'll start by 
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we'll jump into the text and see
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bit. 
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John's disciples came to Jesus 
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the Pharisees fast. 
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Jesus replied surely the 
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never think of morning as long 
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bridegroom to be taken away from
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That's it. 
That's our short reading for 

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today from Matthew chapter 9. 
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exegesis of the literal sense of
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town of Capernaum and has been 
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some Disciples of John arrives. 
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were talking about. 
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his a popular teacher and your 
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Now, by this point, John has 
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followers, who apparently can 
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So they asked Jesus, why do we 
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disciples do not fast. 
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Pharisees taught that fasting 
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discipline, and so their 
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followers and the disciples for 
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disciples did fasting, and it 
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So, toub to chapter 12, verse 8,
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expected behavior for Jews. 
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their attention to spiritual 
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And so it was actually quite 
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Most people did Fast. 
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have a supposed prophet of God 
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basically appeared to be, but 
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requiring his own disciples to 
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So it does seem a little strange
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Technically fasting in that 
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required once a year on the day 
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So the Torah says, you have to 
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That's in Leviticus 16 verse 29.
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Pharisees practiced at twice a 
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probably John's disciples. 
Did it quite often as well as a 

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sign of repentance, So notice 
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are coming here. 
Even after his imprisoned, they 

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continue to follow his 
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They're having this aesthetic 
way of life and they fast just 

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as he did, probably, and they're
looking on, just Jesus disciples

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with suspicion because they're 
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basically, with tax collectors. 
So, all of this would imply seem

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to imply to John's disciples 
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So, it's a fair questions for a 
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okay, they don't come to Jesus 
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telling his disciples not too 
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fast, but it looks like some of 
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choosing not to fast and he 
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And that sounds about right? 
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diversity of expression. 
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think about it, he had a zealot.
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zealot It, which is quite a 
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time. 
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inclinations and Persuasions in 
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them are choosing not to fast. 
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And as will unpack it, a little 
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this idea of repentance fasting.
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sadness. 
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way, kind of sad. 
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describe, that's not really a 
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He this sadness sort of thing 
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in his ministry and that's why 
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be choosing not to fast. 
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Why do your disciples choose not
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rhetorical question of his own. 
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have known what the answer to 
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here's what he says in response.
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attendance would never think of 
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bridegroom is still with them. 
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We're dealing with a wedding 
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But the time will come for the 
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them, and then they will fast. 
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attendance, don't think of 
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them. 
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then they fast, so what's going 
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So in that culture will Jesus is
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himself and the way that Jewish 
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So as part of Jewish weddings, 
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of helpers, who would assist him
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wedding, And those attendance 
would celebrate while the 

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groomers with them. 
It was a really joyful time 

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while the attendance of their 
with the groom and they wouldn't

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fast. 
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But eventually, the groom would 
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wedding ceremony that would 
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over. 
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generally be quite sad. 
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their groom that they so loved 
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So given that. 
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himself? 
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He's basically saying I am like 
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My disciples are like the 
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celebrate and spend as much time
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here but soon I'll be taken away
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mourn so I think interesting 
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So, Jesus here is basically 
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his own death. 
He's saying that, yeah, I'm here

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now. 
Now, and they're celebrating but

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I won't be with them forever. 
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it. 
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It speaks of God himself being 
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So Isaiah chapter 54 and Hosea 
chapter to talk about God being 

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the bridegroom. 
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implying that he wants to be 
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be legitimate. 
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Answer to the question of why 
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It's something like, I haven't 
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principle but it's not the 
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disciples to fast, they will 
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And we know that Jesus hasn't 
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because in The Sermon on the 
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Matthew, he actually says when 
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So he expects his disciples too 
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he's with them. 
That's the teaching here. 

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Because it's a joyful occasion 
while he's with them once his 

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taken away then it's the 
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Now, Jesus could also be hinting
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It's not entirely clear, but 
given what the rest of the New 

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Testament, says, it's possible 
that Jesus is hinting on a 

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deeper spiritual level. 
That he literally is a groom, 

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Jesus is a groom, and he is 
literally getting ready for a 

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wedding. 
Obviously, Paul unpacks that 

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theme of Jesus, being the groom 
and the church being the bride 

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and the Book of Revelation talks
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So maybe Jesus is hinting at his
own upcoming wedding, Maybe Now,

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there's no specific. 
Catechism references to this 

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version of the passage. 
So we'll leave the podcast. 

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Therefore today, hopefully you 
learned something new and please

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tune in again tomorrow.
