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Hi everyone. 
Welcome back to the Daily Gospel

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Exegesis Podcast made by Logical
Bible Study. 

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And what we do here in this 
podcast is we take a look at the

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literal sense of the text from 
today's gospel reading at Mass. 

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So every day when you go to 
Mass, there's usually 3 

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readings, sometimes 2. 
The last reading is the gospel 

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reading, and that's from 
Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. 

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And we take a look at that 
reading and we're looking at the

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literal sense of the text, as in
what was the author trying to 

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convey to his original audience.
And by doing that, we can really

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get at the meaning of the text. 
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And in fact, that's the best way
to find out what it's trying to 

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say to us today. 
So today we're looking at a 

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really, really interesting 
passage for a number of reasons.

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One of the most important, I 
think, in terms of understanding

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Jesus thinking and the Jewish 
thinking at the time about the 

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Pharisees, et cetera. 
So we're looking at Matthew 

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chapter 23, verses 1 to 12, 
addressing the people in his 

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disciples. 
Jesus said the scribes in the 

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Pharisees occupy the chair of 
Moses. 

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You must therefore do what they 
tell you and listen to what they

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say. 
But do not be guided by what 

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they do. 
Since they do not practice what 

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they preach, they tie up heavy 
burdens and lay them on men's 

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shoulders. 
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move them? 
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Everything they do is done to 
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broad philacteries and longer 
Tessels, like wanting to take 

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the place of honor at banquets 
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synagogues, being greeted 
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squares, and having people call 
them Rabbi. 

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You, however, must not allow 
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since you have only one master 
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You must call no one on earth 
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Since you have only one Father, 
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not allow yourselves to be 
called teachers, for you have 

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only one teacher, The Christ. 
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your servant. 
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be humbled, and everybody who 
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So in this passage, there's two 
really interesting things that 

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need to be talked about, and 
those would be the seat of 

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Moses. 
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discusses what it means to have 
the seat of Moses, so we'll talk

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a bit about that. 
And then in the second-half, of 

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course, there's that common 
objection against Catholic 

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teaching, which is that Jesus 
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course Catholics call their 
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So this is a really important 
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Well, I would say this is one of
those passages where if we don't

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do an analysis of the literal 
sense of the text and we just 

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jump straight to the spiritual 
sense of the text and we're 

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going to miss a lot of really 
important information. 

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So let's jump into it, The 
literal sense of the text. 

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Matthew chapter 23. 
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to be in the temple. 
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parables and he has some 
confrontations with the 

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Pharisees in the temple here. 
And this is basically the final 

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conflict between Jesus and the 
Pharisees, and it's the most 

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hated one. 
Jesus doesn't pull any punches 

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here. 
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Pharisees and the way they live 
their life, and he pinpoints 

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exactly what his problem with 
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Earlier in his ministry, he's 
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Pharisees, but it hasn't been 
entirely clear what the 

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fundamental problem is. 
Here Jesus really tells us 

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exactly what his problem with 
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First one addressing the people 
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So notice that we have crowds 
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listening. 
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Verse 2, the scribes and the 
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So these are the common 
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in Israel. 
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religious authorities. 
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the law, and I would say they 
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interpret God's law. 
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deceptive. 
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best to teach the people God's 
law because most people couldn't

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read or write. 
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of teaching people what the Old 
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sometimes mistaken, which they 
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their best to teach people God's
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The scribes is the second group 
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The scribes were kind of like a 
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and they were experts in the 
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words of the Old Testament. 
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the Pharisees occupy the chair 
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So we need to understand this 
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understand Jesus conflict with 
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life. 
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appears as you know, there's 
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Moses while they're camping in 
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People would come to Moses if 
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would bring a solution or a 
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And it appears that during his 
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that he would sit on when he's 
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would come to him. 
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really. 
It's just his chair that he made

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judgments from. 
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chair, it was he was teaching 
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So it was believed by the Jews 
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Moses's office as a divinely 
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spoken to by God and he clearly 
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Then the Jews believe that any 
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Moses to be believed by the Jews
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infallible. 
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infallible, but he did have the 
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decisions that all Jews were 
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And so the Jews believe that 
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Moses or the seat of Moses was 
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Moses died. 
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of Moses. 
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progressed, it was passed on to 
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leaders. 
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have held that office, and 
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prophets as well. 
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who exactly it was passed down 
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idea that the Jews had that the 
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teaching authority to bind, to 
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passed on throughout time, and 
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had the power to interpret the 
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people. 
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seat of Moses, then you could 
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Torah meant and they could add 
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regulations about how the law 
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binding on the people. 
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century, so the time of Jesus, 
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seat of Moses had passed to the 
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The Pharisees were now the 
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and particularly in the weekly 
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literally sat on a special seat 
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to be the seat of Moses. 
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sermon, during which time they 
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for their local congregations. 
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the seat of Moses, because Jesus
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the scribes and Pharisees occupy
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This isn't often talked about 
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We often, sort of, you know, 
we'll often hear that there was 

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4 competing groups in Jesus 
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You have the Essanes, the 
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Zealots. 
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of those four groups, and often 
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all had equal authority with 
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It appears that really if we 
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Pharisees were the only ones 
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authority that was approved by 
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So that means, if it's true that
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Moses's authority, anything the 
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Jesus time was authoritative and
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Anything the Pharisees taught 
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what Jesus expected. 
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from what we're often told. 
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Pharisees were just wrong about 
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Jesus didn't approve of them. 
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exist, and things like that. 
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Jesus is saying you must obey 
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seat of Moses. 
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God approved of their teaching 
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them their teaching office. 
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single teaching they proposed. 
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Pharisees said was from God. 
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that. 
God knows that the Jewish people

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needs leaders, even if the 
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He said He set things up in such
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some sort of Jewish spiritual 
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power to make binding decisions 
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That's how God has set it up. 
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authoritative and binding, but 
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If we can keep that in mind, 
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conflict Jesus has with them. 
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Jesus says you must therefore do
what they tell you and listen to

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what they say. 
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genuine teaching authority as 
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were bound to do whatever they 
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That's what God expects, That's 
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That's how God has set things 
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If they make a teaching or 
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says Jesus. 
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Do not be guided by what they do
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Jesus tells his disciples that 
they should follow all teachings

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of the Pharisees, anything the 
Pharisees teach as part of their

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teaching authority. 
He expects his disciples to 

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follow that because it's 
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But he says don't imitate their 
way of life, don't do what they 

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do, don't live the way they do, 
don't have their attitude 

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because they're not particularly
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This is the main criticism Jesus
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it's not that they are teaching 
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That's not his problem with 
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living their life. 
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the way they're treating people.
We soon discovered that as we 

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read on the passage, the 
Pharisees do everything to 

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attract attention. 
That's the problem. 

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That's what Jesus says, don't 
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So Jesus here is probably quite 
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He wants the Pharisees to be 
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He wishes that they were, 
because if they were, the whole 

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situation would be much better. 
There'd be holy leaders giving 

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wholly authoritative teachings. 
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Verse 4, Jesus goes on. 
The Pharisees tie up heavy 

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burdens and lay them on men's 
shoulders. 

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So Jesus is telling us that the 
Pharisees, when they exercise 

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their teaching authority, are 
requiring the Jews to follow all

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sorts of extra rules and 
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And of course we can think of 
the dietary laws at the time, 

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and also the Sabbath laws. 
You know, you couldn't pluck 

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grain on the Sabbath. 
That added in all these extra 

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tidbits in the way that they 
interpreted the law. 

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Now they were binding, So Jesus 
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binding. 
But what he's saying is they're 

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tying up heavy burdens and 
laying them on men's shoulders. 

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So the Jews do have to follow 
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But will they lift a finger to 
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No, not they. 
So the Pharisees adding in all 

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these extra little rules and 
Jesus is frustrated with that 

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because the Pharisees are not 
considering the impact that that

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will have on the Jewish people. 
In fact, it could make coming to

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God harder for them. 
So Jesus concern here is that 

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the Pharisees are exercising 
their authority in such a way 

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that it might actually be harder
for the Jews to come to God 

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because there's so many little 
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So in fact the Pharisees would 
not actually act like the holy 

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people that that the Jews 
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So imagine imagine what it would
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in all these laws which they 
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they acted like holy people, and
there were people that the Jews 

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could imitate. 
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situation would be much easier 
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all the laws. 
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Pharisees to look up to and to 
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to live a holy life. 
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would become less burdensome 
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look up to. 
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not that. 
The situation is the Pharisees, 

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using their teaching authority, 
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all these little authoritative 
laws and the Pharisees as their 

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spiritual leaders and not doing 
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those laws. 
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more things. 
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if you're understanding the 
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Pharisees having legitimate 
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way that they're living their 
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for the Jews to access God. 
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Remember what Jesus says about 
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He says my yoke is easy and my 
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So that's in Chapter 11 of 
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In contrast, the yoke of the 
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teaching body of the Pharisees 
was quite hard for the people to

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bear. 
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the Pharisees teaching there, 
and now he's going to talk about

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the Pharisees way of living. 
Verse five. 

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He says everything they do is 
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So the Pharisees like to be seen
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They're motivated by pride. 
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They'd like to wear broad 
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So Phalactories are small 
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You might have seen pictures of 
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period. 
They're small boxes and they 

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contain Scripture passages. 
So this is based on Deuteronomy 

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chapter 6, verse 8, where God 
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of your mind and on your hands. 
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for, like, make sure you always 
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But the Pharisees took that 
literally to mean we literally 

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need to put the Scripture 
passages on our heads and on our

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hands. 
So during the liturgy, they 

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would wear these little boxes 
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their forehead and their left 
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During the liturgy, it probably 
represents knowledge and loyalty

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to the Torah. 
It appears that the Pharisees or

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the Pharisees in this part of 
the world were quite, quite 

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prominent Philactories, so that 
everyone saw their Philactories 

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and they appeared to be extra 
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So is there anything wrong with 
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That was sort of part of the 
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obedience to God. 
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Pharisees is that the reason the
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Philactories is to attract 
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And then he gives another 
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They love to wear longer 
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So tassels were kind of like the
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were considered to be the 
religious part of Jewish 

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clothing. 
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represented for the Jews, the 
tassels represented the Jewish 

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responsibility to keep the 
commandments. 

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And that's specified in Numbers,
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where it says the Jews need to 
wear certain kinds of tassels as

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part of their obedience. 
So the Pharisees had their 

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clothes specially designed to 
have really long tassel so that 

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everyone could see their 
tassels. 

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And everyone would say, well, 
aren't they so religious? 

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Aren't they so holy verse six, 
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honor at banquets and the front 
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everyone can see them, 
basically, and know how 

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important they are. 
So the Pharisees on the whole 

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are motivated by pride. 
They love to be greeted 

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obsecuously in the marketplaces.
What a strange word. 

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Obsecuously that our littergy 
translation has. 

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I've never heard that word 
before until I saw it in today's

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littergy translation. 
An easier translation of that 

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word obsecuously is They love to
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marketplace, so they expected 
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greeting because of their 
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They also love to have people 
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Now this is a good connector to 
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The Pharisees really liked 
people calling them the term 

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Rabbi. 
So Rabbi was a word in the 1st 

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century society which had come 
to mean my teacher. 

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If you said Rabbi, you were 
saying that I consider you to be

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my teacher, or more literally my
great one. 

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So you wouldn't just call anyone
Rabbi. 

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It was anyone that you respected
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So a Jew would use it for anyone
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authoritative teacher. 
In the gospel, some people 

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address Jesus this way. 
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Sometimes it's to flatter him, 
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to call Jesus Rabbi. 
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genuinely mean it. 
They genuinely see Jesus as a 

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rabbi, which he is. 
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Pharisees required people to 
call them Rabbi. 

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They said as part of showing us 
respect, you must call us Rabbi.

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So really, again, it's out of 
pride. 

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So people, they weren't giving 
people the option of calling 

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them rabbi. 
You're they're saying you must 

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call us rabbi. 
They wanted the satisfaction of 

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everyone considering them to be 
their teachers. 

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So again, the Ferris is being 
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So we now enter into the part of
the passage which can be one of 

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the hardest to understand and 
reconcile with both later 

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Christian teaching and later 
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So we really need to dive into 
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Verse 8 Jesus says you, however,
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disciples particularly. 
You, however, must not allow 

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yourselves to be called Rabbi. 
So the Pharisees love to be 

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called Rabbi. 
But Jesus says, you guys, my 

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disciples must not let 
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So Jesus knows it. 
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gone, the disciples would become
significant teachers of the 

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Christian faith and people are 
naturally going to want to call 

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them Rabbi. 
What's the reason Jesus gives 

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for why you shouldn't let 
yourself be called Rabbi? 

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He says it's because you have 
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God is the only true rabbi. 
Now sometimes other translations

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will have this as master, you 
have only one master or teacher.

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Both of them are kind of like a 
translation of Rabbi. 

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So the reason the disciples 
shouldn't get themselves to be 

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called rabbi is because God is 
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You are all brothers. 
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Jesus is saying this, that in 
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covenant, the playing field 
needs to be leveled in a sense 

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within the Christian community 
because he's seen how it's so 

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easy for people in positions of 
authority in in terms of God's 

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leaders, in positions of 
authority, it's so easy for them

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to be corrupted. 
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not fall into that corruption 
and pride. 

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He wants him to have a frame of 
mind which sees God is the 

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teacher, and then all Christians
on an equal level below that. 

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He says that has to be the 
starting point. 

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We don't seek authority for for 
our own sake, he says. 

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Now there's a bit more to it 
though, because as we go on we 

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see that Jesus is using 
hyperbole. 

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He's exaggerating here. 
He does not literally mean that 

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it's never OK to call someone 
rabbi. 

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That's not what the passage 
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This is why it's really 
important that we do. 

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That we dive into the When we're
stunning the Bible, we must look

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at the cultural context, the way
that words were used, the way 

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that Jesus used phrases. 
Because if we don't do that, if 

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we just pluck a verse out of 
context, we will end up saying 

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you should never call anyone 
rabbi or you should never call 

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anyone father. 
And we really put ourselves in 

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some difficult situations there,
because that would imply that 

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we're not allowed to call our 
own earthly fathers father. 

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So there must be an element of 
hyperbole here. 

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So Jesus, again, he does not 
literally mean it's never OK to 

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call someone Rabbi. 
What he's saying is that he's 

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trying to contrast the way the 
Pharisees have set up their 

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leadership system with how he 
wants his disciples to set up 

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their leadership system. 
In fact, Jesus allowed himself 

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to be called Rabbi sometimes, so
he's not forbidding Rabbi 

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altogether. 
He's using exaggeration. 

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Here he goes. 
On verse nine, call no one on 

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earth your father. 
So this is the second example. 

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Don't let yourself be called 
Rabbi. 

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And now he says don't call 
anyone else father. 

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So Jesus has to be exaggerating 
here. 

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Think about it. 
Don't call anyone on earth 

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father. 
But everyone calls people on 

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earth their father. 
Our dads. 

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We're going to call them father.
So clearly Jesus doesn't expect 

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his disciples not to call their 
dad's father. 

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That doesn't make sense. 
He has to be exaggerating, and 

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we'll talk about this a bit more
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He says call no one on earth 
your father, since you have only

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one father and he's in heaven. 
So apparently the Pharisees 

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enjoyed being called Father as 
well, and it had become a real 

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problem in Jesus time. 
So Jesus reminds his disciples 

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that really they only have one 
father. 

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He's the source of all 
paternity. 

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Why doesn't this verse 
contradict the Catholic teaching

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on the fatherhood of priests? 
Here's why. 

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If this passage, if we just had 
this passage in the New 

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Testament which said call no one
on earth father, even if we 

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grant that OK, Jesus doesn't 
mean biological fathers, you can

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call them Father. 
Maybe Jesus means spiritual 

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fathers Don't call anyone your 
spiritual father. 

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Now if we just had this verse to
go by, then that might be true 

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and Catholics might be in a bit 
of trouble here because the 

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Catholic teaching that we can 
call Priest Father would seem to

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contradict this verse. 
But luckily we have other verses

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in the New Testament. 
Later in the New Testament we 

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see the apostles being called 
fathers and accepting the title 

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Father. 
So Paul calls himself a father 

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in five Lehman chapter 10. 
Sorry, five Lehman verse 10. 

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And John the Apostle John often 
refers to his disciples as my 

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little children. 
So he sees himself as a 

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spiritual father to these 
people. 

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Probably the most famous verse 
which can be used to support 

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Catholic teaching here is 1 
Corinthians chapter 4, verse 14 

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to 15, where Paul says, I 
admonish you, my beloved 

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children. 
Though you have countless guides

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in Christ, you do not have many 
fathers. 

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I became your I became as your 
father in Christ Jesus through 

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the gospel. 
So here it's pretty clear that 

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Paul is considered to be a 
father to this the Corinthian 

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people, and he wants to be seen 
as a father. 

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So if we have people like Paul 
and John telling people to 

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consider them to be their 
spiritual fathers, and they knew

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Jesus quite well, particularly 
the Apostle John, and they knew 

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what Jesus said here, well then 
they must have understood that 

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what Jesus said here in Matthew 
23 does not forbid calling 

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people spiritual father in all 
circumstances. 

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That's how they understood it 
and that's how the Catholic 

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Church understands it today. 
So if later parts of the New 

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Testament allow the term Father 
to be used for spiritual 

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fathers, then that means the New
Testament writers understood 

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that Jesus was using hyperbole 
here and he's not forbidding the

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term spiritual father to be 
used. 

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So I think that's really cool 
when we compare this with the 

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way later usage was used. 
So if that's the case, what is 

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Jesus saying Here again, Jesus 
is exaggerating to make a point,

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which is that we can't have the 
same frame of mind and the same 

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starting point as the Pharisees 
when we're constructing the 

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leadership of the Kingdom of God
This 10 Jesus uses one more 

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title, He says, Nor must you, 
nor must you allow yourselves to

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be called teachers or masters. 
So apparently that's another 

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term the Pharisees like to be 
called. 

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So you have only one teacher, 
the Christ. 

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Now this is interesting because 
for the first two Jesus says if 

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you have only one Father who is 
in heaven. 

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But this time he says do not let
yourselves be called teachers, 

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for you have only one teacher, 
the Christ. 

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So this time it's not God, it's 
the Messiah, the Christ. 

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Jesus doesn't say me, He doesn't
say you have only one teacher 

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and that's me. 
He says you have only one 

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teacher, the Christ. 
So Jesus here is affirming that 

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the only individual who will 
have true teaching authority in 

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the present of his disciples or 
in the future of the Jews is the

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Messiah. 
Jesus says that's the only 

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person who is a true teacher in 
and of himself. 

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He's the only person who's ever 
going to have true teaching 

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authority in his own person 
because of who he is, rather 

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than the Pharisees who did have 
teaching authority but only 

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because of their office. 
Whereas the Messiah, because of 

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the very person who he is he 
has, he's the true teacher. 

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All other authoritative teachers
have it only because of their 

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position. 
Hope that makes sense with the 

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distinction there. 
Now again, we know that Jesus is

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in a sense using the hyperbole 
here, because later in the New 

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Testament Paul calls himself a 
teacher. 

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He allows himself to be called a
teacher. 

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00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:22,350
Second, Timothy one, he does 
that, and in fact, Paul even 

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00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:26,700
teaches Christians that the 
office of teaching is a 

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legitimate church church office.
It's an actual role that God 

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00:26:31,180 --> 00:26:33,700
sets up is the office of 
teacher, and that's in one 

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Corinthians 12 verse 28. 
So Jesus, if we put together all

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the information from the New 
Testament, Jesus is using 

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exaggeration here to make a 
point. 

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So let's summarize this part of 
the passage with the discussion 

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of these three titles. 
Rabbi, Teacher, and Father. 

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Jesus is using exaggeration to 
teach how sinful and prideful 

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the Pharisees were for not 
looking humbly to God as the 

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00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,560
source of all authority and 
fatherhood and teaching, and 

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instead setting themselves up as
the ultimate authorities, 

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00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,240
father, figures, and leaders. 
He's therefore not forbidding us

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00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,000
or his disciples to call people 
these titles Father, Teacher, or

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00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,000
Rabbi, but he is teaching us not
to ascribe fatherhood or 

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00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,060
teacherhood, two people to a 
degree that they do not actually

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00:27:26,060 --> 00:27:29,620
have. 
We must always remember that God

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is the ultimate standard for 
teacherhood and fatherhood. 

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00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:36,460
As long as we keep that in mind,
and we don't set these other 

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people, even priests, up as the 
ultimate standard of fatherhood,

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00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:43,540
as it appears the Pharisees 
we're trying to do, then we're 

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00:27:43,540 --> 00:27:45,820
okay. 
That will be the Catholic 

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00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:49,500
teaching verse 11. 
Jesus finishes by saying this 

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00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,870
famous phrase, verse 11. 
The greatest among you must be 

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00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:55,670
your servants. 
A better translation of this is 

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00:27:55,670 --> 00:27:58,470
the greatest among you shall be 
your servant. 

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00:27:58,990 --> 00:28:02,270
So Jesus here isn't making a 
commandment as much as he's 

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00:28:02,270 --> 00:28:05,110
saying. 
Here's what it's going to take. 

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00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:08,750
In order to be the greatest, you
need to be a servant. 

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00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:12,870
So this is the main point Jesus 
wants to make with his the whole

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00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:15,350
thing has been saying up till 
now is leading up till this. 

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00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:19,920
Jesus wants to teach his 
disciples that in the Kingdom, 

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00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,080
the one who serves other people 
will be the one that's 

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00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,280
considered to be the greatest by
God, not the ones who make 

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00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,760
themselves out to be the 
greatest. 

510
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,520
That's what Jesus is trying to 
get at. 

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00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,800
God is more interested in how we
treat each other than what our 

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00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,640
official positions are, and that
applies even to today. 

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00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,800
So Jesus probably here is 
speaking specifically to his 12 

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00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,800
apostles. 
He knows that soon they are 

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00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,940
going to be the authoritative 
leaders of his church, and he 

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00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:50,580
wants to make sure that they 
don't fall into the same pride 

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00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:52,380
trap that the Pharisees have 
fallen into. 

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00:28:53,060 --> 00:28:55,780
He says the Pharisees like to 
make themselves the greatest. 

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00:28:55,780 --> 00:28:58,140
He says if you want to be the 
greatest, you have to make 

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00:28:58,140 --> 00:29:01,020
yourself the least. 
Verse 12. 

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00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,460
Anyone who humbles sorry other 
way around, anyone who exalts 

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00:29:04,460 --> 00:29:07,140
himself. 
So in other words, anyone who 

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00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:10,700
makes himself great and forces 
other people to pay respect to 

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00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:14,620
him, a KA, the Pharisees will be
humbled. 

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00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:19,850
So this appears to mean that 
they'll be humbled by God. 

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00:29:19,890 --> 00:29:22,690
In the Kingdom of God, these 
people will be humbled. 

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00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:25,530
It's not clear whether that 
means during their own lifetime 

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00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:28,930
they'll be humbled, or in the 
afterlife it could mean either. 

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00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:33,530
And then he says the reverse. 
Anyone who humbles himself, so 

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00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:37,050
we're talking here about anyone 
who makes himself low and serves

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00:29:37,050 --> 00:29:42,290
others will be exalted. 
So God will exalt those people 

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00:29:42,290 --> 00:29:45,710
in the Kingdom. 
And obviously theologians as 

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00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:48,750
scholars have talked a lot about
how Jesus here is setting up an 

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00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:51,910
upside down Kingdom. 
It's the opposite of everything 

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00:29:51,910 --> 00:29:53,990
the Jews would have been 
familiar with at that time. 

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00:29:54,470 --> 00:30:00,590
The greatest is the one who 
makes himself the lowest and 

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00:30:00,590 --> 00:30:02,030
that's the end of our passage 
for today. 

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00:30:02,030 --> 00:30:05,670
After this, if you read on 
Matthew chapter 23, Jesus gets 

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00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:08,470
even more forceful in his 
criticisms of the Pharisees. 

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00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:12,950
He calls them blind guys, and he
tells them that their conduct is

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00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:15,150
actually preventing people from 
getting into the Kingdom. 

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00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:18,510
So I recommend reading the rest 
of chapter 23. 

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00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:23,150
It's well worth it. 
So really interesting passage. 

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00:30:23,150 --> 00:30:24,590
Where does this appear in the 
Catechism? 

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00:30:25,270 --> 00:30:27,790
Only a couple of places. 
So there's a brief reference to 

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00:30:27,790 --> 00:30:30,310
it in the section on marriage, 
which is really interesting. 

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00:30:30,910 --> 00:30:34,630
So paragraph 2367 on. 
It's in the section about the 

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00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:37,550
responsibility to have children 
in marriage. 

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00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:41,310
It says called to give life 
spouses share in the creative 

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00:30:41,310 --> 00:30:45,510
power and fatherhood of God. 
And that's it. 

551
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:47,230
So the paragraph goes on from 
there. 

552
00:30:47,230 --> 00:30:50,710
But that's the only part that 
quotes this scripture passage. 

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00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:54,430
So that's kind of cool in a 
sense, just as God is our true 

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00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:59,510
father and all paternity derives
from Him, if we have children, 

555
00:30:59,510 --> 00:31:04,290
particularly men, then we can 
share in that fatherhood of God 

556
00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:07,890
by becoming, I guess you could 
say secondary fathers that 

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00:31:07,890 --> 00:31:11,250
derive our fatherhood from God 
who is the true father. 

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00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:16,090
And then in paragraph 526 is in 
the discussion about little 

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00:31:16,090 --> 00:31:20,210
child God eternal. 
So comparing us to God in a 

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00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:23,890
sense, it says to become a child
in relation to God is the 

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00:31:23,890 --> 00:31:25,450
condition for entering the 
Kingdom. 

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00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:29,960
For this we must humble 
ourselves and become little even

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,280
more to become children of God. 
We must be born from above or 

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00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,840
born of God. 
Only when Christ is formed in us

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00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,760
will the mystery of Christmas be
fulfilled in us. 

566
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Christmas is the mystery of this
marvelous exchange. 

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00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Our marvelous exchange. 
Man's creator has become man 

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00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,160
born of the Virgin. 
We have been made shearers in 

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00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,120
the divinity of Christ, who 
humbled Himself to share our 

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00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,310
humanity. 
So the reference there about God

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00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:05,030
being Father and also a 
requirement to humble ourselves 

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00:32:05,270 --> 00:32:07,710
is brought together really 
nicely in this paragraph about 

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00:32:07,710 --> 00:32:10,950
how God humbled Himself even 
though He's our Father. 

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00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:15,750
He humbled Himself to become a 
man so that we can be partakers 

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00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:21,350
in his own divine life. 
So I'll put those two, those two

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00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:23,430
categories and paragraphs into 
the show notes. 

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00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:25,060
Hopefully you learn something 
new. 

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00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:27,420
This is one of my favorite 
passages in terms of 

579
00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:30,060
understanding the role of the 
Pharisees, because the Pharisees

580
00:32:30,060 --> 00:32:34,180
appear so much in the Gospels, 
and if we don't understand that 

581
00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:36,740
they had legitimate teaching 
authority and Jesus believed 

582
00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:40,180
that they did, but he didn't 
approve of their practice, then 

583
00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:42,180
we're really going to struggle 
to interpret the Gospels. 

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00:32:42,820 --> 00:32:45,260
So if you think there's some 
people who would appreciate 

585
00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:48,660
hearing this information about 
the Pharisees and Jesus 

586
00:32:48,860 --> 00:32:51,900
teachings about fatherhood, 
etcetera, then please share it 

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00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,270
with them. 
Bit of a longer podcast today, 

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00:32:54,270 --> 00:32:56,630
but hopefully you can see that 
it's been beneficial. 

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Thanks for listening.
