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Hi everyone. 
Welcome back to daily gospel 

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exegesis. 
Our goal here is to help you 

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prepare for the Gospel reading. 
You'll hear at today's mass so 

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we're giving you an exegesis of 
the literal sense of the 

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scripture. 
So we're helping you understand 

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what the gospel text means in 
its original context. 

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So that when you go to mass your
In your mind, you'll be more 

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prepared to hear what the priest
might have to say or the person 

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doing the mass will have to say 
about this particular reading. 

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So today we get to a really 
interesting text and in many 

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ways quite a difficult text 
that's often been 

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misinterpreted. 
So it's a longer text, Luke 

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chapter 21 verses 5 to 19. 
When some were talking about the

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temple remarking, how it was 
adorned with fine, stonework and

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votive offerings. 
Jesus said all these things you 

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are staring at. 
Now the time will come when not 

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a single Stone will be left on 
another everything will be 

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destroyed and they put him and 
they put to him this question 

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Master they said when will this 
happen and what sign will there 

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be that this is about to take 
place? 

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Take care not to be deceived he 
said because many will come 

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using my name and saying, I am 
he and the time is near at hand,

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refuse to join them. 
And when you hear of wars and 

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revolutions, do not be 
frightened for, this is 

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something that must happen, but 
the end is not so soon. 

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Then he said to them Nation will
fight against nation and Kingdom

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against Kingdom, there will be 
great, earthquakes and plagues 

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and famines here. 
And there there will be fearful 

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sights and great signs from 
heaven. 

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But before all this happens, men
will seize you and persecute 

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you. 
They will hand you over to the 

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synagogues and to imprisonment 
and bring you before Kings and 

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governors because of my name. 
And that will be your 

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opportunity to Bear witness. 
Keep this carefully in mind you 

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are not to prepare your defense 
because I myself shall give you 

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an eloquence and a wisdom that 
none of your opponents will be 

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able to resist or contradict 
you'll be betrayed even In by 

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parents and brothers, relations 
and friends. 

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And some of you will be put to 
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You will be hated by all men on 
account of my name, but not a 

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hair on your head will be lost. 
Your endurance will win you your

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lives. 
So you we see Jesus here doing 

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an eschatological prophecy his 
speaking. 

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In a way that we don't often get
to hear him speak in the 

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gospels, but it's really 
important that we understand 

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what he was saying. 
So as always, we want to start 

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by thinking about the context. 
So Jesus has arrived in 

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Jerusalem for the last week of 
his life and he's already 

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cleanse the temple. 
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temple. 
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that he's speaking primarily 
here to people who are already 

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his followers. 
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Christians, not to the world in 
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And we're going to see here. 
What's often been called the 

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Olivet discourse? 
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called in the gospel of Matthew.
But you'll notice that this one 

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is apparently not on the Mount 
of Olives it, but it's very 

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similar themes. 
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go. 
So starting at verse 5, it says 

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when some were talking about the
temple remarking how it was 

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adorned with fine, stonework and
votive offerings. 

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So there's people in the 
audience who are looking at the 

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temple and marring it and it was
a truly remarkable building. 

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We know from history that the 
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was made of pure massive, white 
stones. 

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Some of these Stones were nearly
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A lot of these were installed in
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So, by the time, Of Jesus it was
really quite an amazing building

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it. 
Even had a golden Vine at the 

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entrance from which hung these 
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The verse he imagines votive 
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So those will be gifts dedicated
to God. 

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So the people standing around 
with Jesus admiring, these 

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beautiful, big white stones and 
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It was one of the most beautiful
and exquisite buildings in the 

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world. 
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maybe it's similar to st. 
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It was it had that kind of wow 
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And people from that time 
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Some Roman historians have said 
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The temple looked like a 
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It was that kind of beautiful. 
So Jesus, your notices that 

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people are admiring it. 
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foretell its destruction. 
So we're going to see here an 

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extended speech about the 
destruction of the temple. 

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Keep this in mind, it's 
specifically about the 

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destruction of the temple. 
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world as such and it's a long 
speech, what we see. 

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Here is the first half of what 
is the Olivet discourse in 

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Matthew's gospel. 
Jesus speech here has many 

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similarities to Jeremiah's 
speech in Jeremiah seven when 

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Jeremiah predicted the 
destruction of the first temple.

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Now, interestingly, when Jesus 
predictions about the Temple of 

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fulfilled in 70 AD when the 
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It's destroyed by fire on the 
same day and the same month, the

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ninth of of as when the 
Babylonians destroyed the first 

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temple. 
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apparently destroyed. 
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destruction of the first temple.
So from this, we can see that 

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God does work in patterns. 
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at this and maybe some Catholics
might look at this sometimes and

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they think that here Jesus is 
talking about the end of the 

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world, the end of time, it can 
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And some people in the tradition
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if we're looking at the literal 
sense, what's Jesus primarily 

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referring to, he's referring to 
the destruction of the temple in

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70 AD, he's telling his 
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What's going to happen? 
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Having said that though, we know
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viewed the temple as a model of 
the universe as a whole, the 

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temple was kind of a mini model 
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So in this sense, the 
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Jerusalem, foreshadows the 
Temple of the real Universe in 

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the future. 
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this imagery of the Stars will 
fall and all that sort of thing,

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there's probably a hint here 
that the cosmological symbols In

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the temple are being referred to
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we get there. 
So this is a long speech and 

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we're just going to see the 
first part of it in today's 

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reading. 
So Jesus, he says, all these 

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things you are staring at now. 
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temple, the time will come. 
So Jesus is giving a prophecy is

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about to predict something 
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The destruction of the temple. 
In 70 AD, the Jewish people have

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been attacked, lots of times in 
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If you know the Old Testament 
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A lot and in the lead up to 70 
AD, there were many attacks on 

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Jerusalem, but it was only 
finally destroyed by fire in 70 

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AD. 
When the leader Titus came in 

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and destroyed the temple. 
It was a huge event for the 

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Jews. 
In fact, they've never really 

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recovered from it. 
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Jerusalem today, there will 
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They physically mourn, the 
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So this is a momentous occasion 
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Now, Jesus has already done 
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If you've been listening to the 
podcast for a little while now 

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he's already predicted the 
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chapter 17. 
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fact, in Chapter 13, quite early
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house will be left to you 
desolate and then in chapter 19,

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he specifically said, the reason
that Jerusalem will be destroyed

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is because they reject him as 
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So, all through the Gospel of 
Luke, there's this theme that 

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the temple will be destroyed. 
It's a punishment from God for 

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rejecting the Messiah here. 
Jesus gives us very specific 

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description of how that 
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So he says here, not a single 
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and we know from history that by
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the temple was literally 
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There was no Stones left, 
apparently there was nothing 

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left, but a field by the end of 
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So when Jesus, he says, not a 
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another, think about how shocked
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Jesus has just said, they're 
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That's shocking. 
So they asked, Jesus for more 

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information, they say master 
when will this happen? 

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And what sign will there be that
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So they asked Jesus here to 
questions they say, when will 

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this happen? 
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That this is about to take place
now. 

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Apparently, Jesus doesn't answer
their first question about 

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precise timing. 
Jesus doesn't say, when will 

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this happen? 
He does give them a ballpark but

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he doesn't give them an exact 
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So when it's going to happen but
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extended answer to the second 
question which is what signs 

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will there be that this is about
to take place, he gives them a 

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very clear answer on what signs 
they will be in the lead up to 

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the destruction of the Temple. 
His Focus all the way through 

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here is for his audience. 
The disciples to not become 

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stressed or carried away. 
When they see the signs starting

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to happen. 
He starts in verse 8, by telling

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his disciples, take care not to 
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We can translate that take care 
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So Jesus knows about in the time
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the temple. 
There's going to be a lot of 

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Messianic fervor. 
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people hoping that the Messiah 
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There's going to be people 
claiming that their the Messiah.

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It's all going to be very 
political and very a lot of 

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people be excited. 
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he doesn't want his disciples to
be carried away in all the 

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craziness that some of the Jews 
get involved in and in the 

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lead-up to the destruction of 
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And he says here because many 
We'll come using my name and 

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saying, I am. 
He so Jesus, he says that before

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the destruction of the temple, 
many people claim to be Christ 

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and we know that many did claim 
that many claim to be the 

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Messiah in the Years leading up 
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Some of them got quite a big 
following But ultimately they 

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were all killed. 
We can see a couple of examples 

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of this in scripture Acts, 
chapter 5 records. 

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One example of someone who 
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ad 56. 
There's a reference to someone 

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else who leads a rebellion, it 
kind of a Messianic rebellion 

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and you can read about that in 
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So, in the book of Acts, there's
examples of people who claim to 

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be the Messiah and it gets even 
more heated in the, in the 

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lead-up to the destruction of 
the temple. 

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Jesus, he says, the time is near
at hand, refused to join them. 

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So he says, when these things 
happen, when they see when the 

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false Messiahs start to claim to
be the Messiah, the time is near

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at hand, refuse to join them. 
So the Messianic Impostors will 

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claim that the kingdom of God is
about to come. 

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And they'll say things like, 
don't worry, God will protect 

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us. 
The kingdom of God is about to 

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come. 
It'll Wipe Out the Romans some 

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people even go so far. 
As to say, I'm the Messiah, I'm 

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the one that will do it. 
The zealots in particular, were 

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a group who just before 70 AD, 
they claimed that they were 

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bringing about the kingdom of 
God. 

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Some of them did anyway so Jesus
command here to his disciples is

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when you see these things 
happening, don't join them. 

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That's his Ice don't get 
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Jesus says, when you hear of 
wars and revolutions, do not be 

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frightened for, this is 
something that must happen, but 

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the end is not so soon. 
So, Jesus says, they'll be Wars 

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and revolutions, but they should
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They, those are things that will
and must happen before the final

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destruction of the temple. 
But they're not, the destruction

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of the temple themselves. 
So he says, don't be alarmed 

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about the wars that you hear 
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We know that there were lots of 
Wars between 'In a T30 and AD 70

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in the Roman emperor in that 
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You just look at history and 
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this to be the end of the world,
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by that, that might seem like 
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it's also an opportunity for God
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and destroy those who refuse to 
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in Israel verse 10, then Jesus 
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against nation and Kingdom 
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there will be great earthquakes 
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there. 
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plagues famines earthquakes. 
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in the Old Testament, these 
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divine judgment God will Bring 
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and famines as a symbol of his 
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things in the Old Testament. 
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saying that in the lead-up to 
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destruction of the temple, God 
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punishments in plagues and 
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Jerusalem in ad, 45 to 48. 
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it talks about this and then 
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letter. 
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destroyed by an earthquake. 
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city at the time and there was 
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around this same time period. 
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unnecessary signs of judgment 
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the temple in 70 AD but it's not
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fearful sights and great signs 
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thought that Jesus, here, must 
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world, because there wasn't 
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they talk about these incredibly
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the sky and in the city just 
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temple. 
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Jesus words here about. 
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great signs from Heaven. 
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God brought about supernatural 
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the temple was destroyed. 
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that happened. 
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destruction of the temple. 
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The could be heard from inside 
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Now leave here. 
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now leave here. 
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was removed from the temple and 
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voice. 
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horses running around in the 
clouds, getting ready for the 

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destruction of the temple. 
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saw in the clouds and then we 
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walking through Jerusalem Night 
and Day, Warning of the 

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destruction of the temple. 
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to Jerusalem to give them one 
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You might not have heard this 
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too. 
Elected by Christians, but it's 

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quite an amazing time period. 
Where God is doing some really 

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interesting stuff just before 
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And then Jesus says, but before 
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So Jesus has just been talking 
about the things that will 

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happen in the lead-up to the 
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And now Jesus is going to jump 
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He's going to say what are the 
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the lead-up to the Destruction 
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So he's doing a bit of a Time 
jump backwards in a sense, what 

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he's done for them already is 
his introduced to them, he's 

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letting them know. 
Look the temple is going to be 

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destroyed, it's going to be a 
big deal and now what he's going

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to do is to go back to some 
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the destruction of the temple 
gets near. 

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So he's giving them some 
indication of things to look for

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that will happen that need to 
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the temple. 
Now Matthews version of the this

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discourse Matthews In to arrange
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So he deliberately gives the 
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easier to follow in terms of 
chronology, but Luca is going to

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jump backwards in time a bit So 
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some things that will happen to 
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period. 
And in fact, he's already 

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mentioned quite a few of these 
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He says here to the disciples 
men will seize you and persecute

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you. 
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quite specific. 
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will be arrested and persecuted 
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And we know that that does 
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70 AD Jesus says, they will hand
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Books and to imprisonment. 
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that did happen. 
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they maintain public order and 
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certain Jewish people if they 
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the Jews. 
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who would maintain public order?
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it was basically considered to 
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disciples were punished and they
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preaching. 
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And you'll see pretty much this 
happening to most of the 

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disciples and Jesus says, 
they'll be an even further 

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persecution. 
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before Kings and governors for 
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you, but Gentile ones will as 
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Kings and governors a little bit
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The apostles, do begin to be 
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Jews. 
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part of what's going to happen. 
It's part of bearing witness 

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before the pagans. 
This will be surprising for the 

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apostles to hear, probably many 
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anything to do with the 
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There were just be preaching the

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kingdom of God to do. 
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But here Jesus says, no, 
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yourself in situations where you
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leaders as well. 
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opportunity to Bear witness or 
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Bear testimony. 
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here in advance that. 
When these trials happened to 

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them, it will actually be a 
great opportunity to preach the 

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kingdom. 
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Keep this carefully in mind you 
are not to prepare your defense 

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or You can translate this not to
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How to answer? 
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misinterpreted, this is not a 
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Jesus here is not saying to all 
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prepare in order to preach the 
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This is a command for his 
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for the apostolic age. 
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professional speakers and 
orators in that culture who 

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rehearse their speech over and 
over again before delivering 

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them in the public squares. 
Jesus. 

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He says that in this I'm when 
the kingdom of God, is beginning

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in the time of Covenant will 
transition, as it's often called

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them words to say, which will 
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And we know, if you look at the 
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what happens. 
So basically he's giving the 

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disciples, some hope and comfort
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He says, actually, when this 
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opportunity to spread the 
kingdom and in fact I Jesus will

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give you the words to say 
through the Holy Spirit, he goes

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on. 
I myself shall give you an 

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eloquence and a wisdom that none
of your opponents will be able 

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to resist or contradict. 
So Jesus Through the Holy Spirit

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empowered, the early, Christian 
leaders to give amazing speeches

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as testimony to the gospel. 
And we can think of Like Stephen

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speech in the book of Acts verse
16, you will be betrayed even by

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parents and brothers, relations 
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And we know from history that 
Jesus prediction here is 

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remarkably accurate, by the way,
it's worth mentioning that 

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depending on which Bible, you 
pick up, or which resources, you

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look at to help study the 
gospels. 

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Some people who are a bit 
skeptical of Supernatural 

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things. 
You could say, some people are 

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skeptical that this was written 
before the events happened, some

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Scholars. 
Think the Best explanation of 

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Jesus words here is that Luke is
writing after all these events 

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are occurring and he's putting 
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So some Scholars even Catholic 
ones, unfortunately a really 

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skeptical that Jesus could have 
such specific Supernatural 

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knowledge of what's going to 
happen in the future so they 

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don't think these are genuine 
prophecies. 

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They think they were written 
after the fact, I think it is. 

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Orthodox believing Catholics. 
We don't have to resort to that 

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option. 
We can say that clearly Jesus as

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the Son of God knows. 
Going to happen in the future 

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and he tells the disciples some 
details about that in order to 

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give them some comfort. 
So, we know that after Jesus was

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gone often, some members of a 
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While others would use. 
Jesus says here, you will be 

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betrayed even by parents and 
brothers, relations, and 

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friends, and that's what 
happened. 

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Christians, will often 
persecuted by family members and

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friends, and they were handed 
over to the Jewish authorities 

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by now, perhaps his disciples 
may not have been surprised by 

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that, because earlier, he said 
that allegiance to the gospel, 

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might sometimes require driving 
a wedge between family members. 

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If you look at Chapter 14 verse 
26, he says that he even gets 

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more explicit, though. 
Jesus says, some of you will be 

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put to death. 
And we know that most of the 

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Apostles, perhaps all of them, 
although it's not 100% clear. 

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Certainly many Christian leaders
were killed as a result of their

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faith and Jesus is warning them.
Look, these are the things that 

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are going to come in the coming 
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Verse 17, you will be hated by 
all men on account of my 

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namesake. 
So this is kind of a summary 

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statement of Everything Jesus. 
This has just said, he says that

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because they follow God's will 
as laid out by the Messiah. 

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The Son of, Man, they are going 
to be persecuted. 

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The Jews will hate them. 
The Romans will hate them 

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sometimes even their own family,
and friends will hate them, and 

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that seems to be pretty bad 
news. 

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Although Jesus in The Sermon on 
the Mount pretty much talking 

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about the same topic. 
He says to the disciples 

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blessed. 
Are you when you are persecuted 

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for my name's sake, so he's 
constantly telling them that 

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when these things happen, they 
shouldn't be surprised, they 

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shouldn't be downhearted. 
It's an opportunity to preach 

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the gospel and it will actually 
lead to their own sanctification

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and greater glory. 
Verse 18. 

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Jesus says, you'll be hated by 
all men but not a hair of your 

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head will be lost. 
This is an interesting phrase 

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now, that's not literally true 
because many of the disciples 

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did die, they did lose limbs, 
they do lose hair. 

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So it has to be a hyperbole. 
It has to be a metaphor for 

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something. 
Not a hair of your head will be 

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lost. 
It has to mean something like 

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this, ultimately, the disciples 
who are faithful to God will be 

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with him. 
In heaven, all of the Earthly 

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trials will be nothing in 
comparison to the rewards that 

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we receive in the next life. 
Although you're persecuted 

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ultimately not a hair of your 
head will be lost. 

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That's the perspective. 
He wants them to have an 

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internal perspective, notice the
degree of suffering, the Jesus 

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warns, his Apostles and other 
leading disciples, that they'll 

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experience, but also 
correspondingly, they have a 

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greater degree of Glory when 
they spread the kingdom of God 

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and when they're persecuted for 
it, they'll have great. 

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Words in heaven, Jesus is 
constantly telling the leading 

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Apostles and the leading 
Disciples of the glory and the 

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suffering that they'll share. 
There's actually a lot of words,

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Jesus has just for the leading 
disciples in the gospels, and we

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know that later in the book of 
Acts, the disciples rejoice. 

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When they are persecuted for 
Jesus name. 

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You can see that in Acts chapter
5 verse 41, verse 19. 

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He says your endurance will win 
you your lives, or you can 

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translate this different ways by
your endurance. 

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You will gain your lives or the 
other gospels have this as he 

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who perseveres will be saved. 
So this idea of saving your 

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life, it has something to do 
with saving something and it 

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appears to mean, in this case, 
saving your soul The teaching 

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here is that if the Christian 
disciples keep the faith and 

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they don't deny Jesus in the 
coming years, in the apostolic 

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age, despite the fierce 
persecution. 

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If they don't deny Jesus, they 
will receive eternal life. 

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I think that's the best way to 
understand. 

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Jesus words here, your endurance
will when you your lives. 

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A lot of Christians are not 
comfortable with that because 

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that implies that you may lose 
your salvation or that you have 

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to do something to retain your 
salvation. 

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But that is, of course, Catholic
teaching. 

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You must hold fast to God. 
And Not deny Jesus. 

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Jesus goes on to amplify this 
further in the gospel of 

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Matthew. 
When he says he who acknowledges

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me before others, I will 
acknowledge before my father, 

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but he who denies me before 
others? 

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I will deny before my father. 
So clearly there's a warning 

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here. 
If you give up the faith you may

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not make it to Heaven. 
That's what he's telling the 

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Christian leaders here. 
Now, there is actually more to 

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this discourse where Jesus gets 
even more graphic about what's 

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going to happen. 
In that time period, you can 

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hear the next part on Thursday 
of week, 34 in ordinary time, 

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let's turn to the catechism and 
the catechism of the Catholic 

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Church, of course, is a summary 
of Catholic teachings. 

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There's one specific paragraph 
which makes reference to this. 

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It's an interesting one, 
paragraph 675. 

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This is in the section called 
the church's ultimate trial. 

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So it's the part of the 
catechism, which tells us The 

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Catholic Church's beliefs about 
what's going to happen in the 

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end times. 
So here it sees a possible 

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further, application of Jesus 
prophecy here in Luke chapter 

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21, this is primarily about 
what's going to happen to the 

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early Apostles in the apostolic 
age as we've been discussing. 

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But the catechism here also sees
that the things that happen then

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in the apostolic age or a 
foreshadowing of a greater 

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persecution, which will 
eventually come upon all 

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Christians at the End of Time. 
Here's what paragraph 675 says. 

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Before Christ's Second Coming, 
the church must pass through a 

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final trial that will shake the 
faith of many Believers. 

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The persecution that 
accompanies. 

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Her pilgrimage on Earth will 
unveil the mystery of iniquity 

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in the form of a religious 
deception offering men and 

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apparent solution to their 
problems at the price of 

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apostasy from the truth. 
The supreme religious deception 

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is that of the Antichrist a 
pseudo messianism by which man 

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glorifies himself in place of 
God and of his Messiah. 

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In the Flesh. 
So the church has some quite 

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specific beliefs about what the 
end of time is going to look 

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like. 
So that section of the catechism

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is well worth, looking at all 
include this in the show notes 

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as well. 
So I hope you've learned 

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something new today. 
It is quite a difficult text but

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hopefully this has helped shed 
some light on what it's all 

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about. 
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