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Hi everyone. 
Welcome back to logical Bible 

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study. 
In this podcast, we're all about

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looking at the gospel from 
today's mass and having a look 

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at the literal sense of the 
text. 

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What is the text mean on the 
most fundamental level? 

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What do the words mean? 
What was the author trying to 

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get at all of those are the kind
of things that we try and help 

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you understand. 
In this podcast today, we're 

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looking at a text which will be 
familiar to many of you 

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Catholics. 
So let's jump into it. 

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Luke chapter 1 verses 39 to 45 
Mary set out and went as quickly

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as she could to a town in the 
Hill Country of Judah, she went 

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into zechariah's house and 
greeted Elizabeth. 

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Now as soon as Elizabeth heard 
Mary's greeting, the child left 

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in her womb and Elizabeth was 
filled with the Holy Spirit. 

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She gave a loud cry and said of 
all women, you are the most 

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blessed and blessed is the fruit
of your womb. 

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Why should I be honored with a 
visit from the mother of my lord

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for the moment, your greeting 
reached my ears? 

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The child in my womb, leaped for
joy. 

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Yes. 
Blessed. 

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Is she who believed that? 
The promise made her by the Lord

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would be fulfilled. 
So let's start by thinking about

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the context here, where in Luke 
chapter one. 

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About halfway through that big 
chapter, where Luke tells us 

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quite a lot of the background of
the birth of both Jesus, and 

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John the Baptist. 
So, what's the context? 

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Well, just prior to this Mary, 
has found out that Elizabeth is 

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pregnant and also, Mary herself 
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pregnant and that, of course, 
happens in the famous 

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Annunciation scene. 
So if you want to hear an 

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exegesis of the Annunciation 
scene verses 26 to 38, it's add 

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several times in the liturgical 
year. 

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So December 20th every year and 
then the solemnity of the 

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Annunciation. 
It's red and then it's red on 

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the solemnity of the Immaculate 
Conception, as well, so that's 

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one of the most common readings 
in the lectionary but now we get

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to verse 39 today. 
So Mary has found out that 

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Elizabeth is pregnant so she 
sets out to go find Elizabeth At

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the time of leaving, maid Mary 
is either not yet pregnant or 

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has just become pregnant. 
It's not entirely clear when 

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Mary has when Mary herself gets 
pregnant but certainly Elizabeth

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is pregnant. 
That's why Mary leaves to go 

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visit Elizabeth in her pregnancy
and the text says she goes as 

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quickly as she can to a town in 
the Hill Country. 

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So the text doesn't tell us 
where exactly Elizabeth and 

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Zachariah live. 
But there is a traditional site 

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called Ein Karem and that is 
near Jerusalem. 

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So that would certainly fit the 
The description that we have 

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here. 
You can actually go there today 

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to the ruins of that Village and
the place where they think 

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Elizabeth may have lived. 
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it's quite a powerful 
experience. 

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So I encourage him is a is near 
Jerusalem, and so that's helpful

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for Zechariah. 
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from the temple. 
So, Zechariah works at the 

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temple. 
So it makes sense that he would 

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live in on Korean, which is just
outside of Jerusalem, but Mary 

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does not live anywhere near 
Jerusalem, Mary lives in 

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Nazareth. 
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house from Nazareth to Ein, 
Karem, we're talking 90 miles. 

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So she it's a five or six day 
walk for Mary to go visit 

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Elizabeth this time. 
She's Not accompanied by Joseph.

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As far as we know, Joseph might 
have been working at this time. 

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Still, but she probably did 
have, she was in a walking 

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Caravan of some kind. 
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to travel from Galilee down to 
Judea. 

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So she enters the house of 
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soon as Elizabeth heard Mary's 
greeting the child left in her 

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womb so the child in Elizabeth's
womb leaps when she hears Mary's

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voice. 
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womb is, of course, John John 
senses, the voice of Mary, and 

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leaps, for joy that fulfills 
what Gabriel said to Zechariah 

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earlier. 
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Zechariah. 
One of the things he says, is 

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your child, John will be filled 
with the spirit even from his 

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mother's womb. 
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of chapter one. 
And there's also other parallels

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here all the way through this 
text, you'll see some Old 

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Testament echoes. 
Quite clear ones actually. 

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And this particular one where 
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womb, this parallels the 
experience of Rebecca in Genesis

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25. 
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Jacob and Esau. 
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Greek word, therefore leap is 
used to describe her children 

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steering in her womb and 
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the child, the children moving 
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The fact that Jacob is going to 
outrank Esau, even though Jacob 

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was younger And here Elizabeth's
experience when John Moves In 

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the Womb, that is a sign that 
Jesus would be greater than his 

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older cousin John. 
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So interesting connections there
with Rebecca, of course this has

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implications of how we should 
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well. 
Because here we have children in

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the womb responding to outside 
stimuli in a really interesting 

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way. 
And so there's some implications

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here about how we think about 
abortion and the issue. 

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Is around that, it says 
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holy spirit, so notice that 
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spirit. 
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So Elizabeth is filled with the 
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And she says, in verse 42, 
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inspired by the spirit here. 
Blessed. 

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Are you among women? 
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in the Greek is, it's a 
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So Elizabeth says to Mary. 
Most Blessed Are You among 

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women? 
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God has given her and Elizabeth 
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Is that Elizabeth here? 
Actually uses the same words 

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that were spoken to the women, 
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Some of the Lesser known 
characters in the Old Testament,

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the women jail and Judith are in
Judges chapter 5 and then Judges

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chapter 13 fascinating parallel 
here because both women jail and

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Judith. 
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Israelites because they killed 
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commanders by giving them a 
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Well, Mary is going to Bear a 
son, who will crush Satan's Head

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as well, it specifically says 
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So notice all these interesting 
parallels here with women in the

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Old Testament. 
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presented by God as the 
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archetypes in the Old Testament.
Mary is like the perfect 

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Israelite woman. 
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here, blessed, are you among 
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And blessed is the fruit of your
womb. 

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Of course, this is this comes 
through into the the Hail Mary 

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as well. 
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fruit of your womb, their base 
can basically means blessed is 

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your son Jesus and that tells us
probably that Mary is pregnant 

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by this point. 
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God has blessed. 
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God verse 43. 
Why should I be honored with a 

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visit from the mother of my 
Lord. 

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Now, what it literally says 
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translation actually is. 
Why is this granted me that the 

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mother of my Lord should come to
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The mother of my Lord should 
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Now, there's lots of discussion 
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that's used here, because Lord 
can mean to Different things in 

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the Old Testament. 
Lord, usually means the king the

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Earthly King. 
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something like why should it be?
Granted me that the mother of my

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Messianic King is coming to me 
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However, there is another 
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most Catholics. 
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taken it to be Lord as in God. 
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the Hebrew word yhw h often 
pronounced Yahweh, when that 

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comes over into Greek in the New
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curiosity, which is Lord. 
So Lord can also mean God in the

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New Testament, and in fact, 
that's how Luke uses it 

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throughout his gospel. 
All of the references to the 

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word, Lord, so far, in chapter 1
of Luke up to this point have 

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been about God. 
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Elizabeth is probably thinking 
of God, and she is inspired by 

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the Holy Spirit, he remembers so
she probably believes Jesus to 

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be God. 
God, if we're understanding this

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correctly, This is the key text 
which informs the Catholic 

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understanding that Mary is the 
mother of God that is a Catholic

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belief and Mother of God in 
Greek there. 

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The word is theotokos. 
This is the first Marian Dogma 

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to be defined Catholics have 
lots of different Marian 

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teachings of. 
This was the first one to be 

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defined. 
Clearly in 431 ad at the Council

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of Ephesus, the church taught 
that Mary is the mother of God. 

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And it's based largely on this 
text here when Elizabeth says 

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The mother of my Lord Has Come 
to Me. 

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Now, we're going to see some 
really interesting links here, 

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between the Ark of the Covenant 
in the Old Testament, and when 

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that arrived in Jerusalem. 
So, in the time of David, the 

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Ark of the Covenant was brought 
up to Jerusalem and David's 

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celebrated. 
There's some interesting links 

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here between that scene in 
second, Samuel and the scene we 

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have here. 
Let's have a look at a few 

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fascinating parallels here. 
There really does seem to be a 

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clear link here. 
God has set it up deliberately, 

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so that the scene we're looking 
at mirrors, the arrival of the 

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The Ark in Jerusalem. 
So in second Samuel 6 verse 2, 

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it says David arose and went to 
a village of Judah to retrieve 

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the ark. 
Well, here Mariah Rises and goes

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to a village of Judah. 
In fact, Luke interestingly uses

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the word Judah here, rather than
the more common term in the time

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of Luke was Judea. 
But here Luke says, Judah. 

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And he might be doing that 
deliberately to recall the line 

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from 2nd Samuel where David goes
up to Judah. 

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So there's the first Slink 
second link between the scenes 

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in 2nd Samuel 6 verse 10. 
It says the Ark of the Lord 

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entered, the house will hear me 
re-enters the house in the 

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village of Judah. 
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verse 15. 
It says the people of Israel 

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shout when the ark arrived and 
here Elizabeth shouts for Joy. 

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When Mary arrives interesting? 
Isn't it? 

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In fact, the word shout, which 
is Anna fineö, that would only 

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Assessment. 
It's never found anywhere else 

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in the New Testament, but that 
word is found in the Old 

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Testament and a fineö and it's 
always used in reference to 

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liturgical procession of the Ark
interesting, isn't it? 

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It really does seem like 
everything is pointing towards 

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this being a New Covenant Arc, 
Mary fourth similarity, when the

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ark arrives to to David in 
Jerusalem. 

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David says how can the Ark of 
the Lord come to me here. 

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What is Elizabeth say? 
How is it that the mother of my 

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Lord has come to me. 
There's clearly got to be 

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something going on here next 
parallel. 

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It says David danced before the 
ark when it arrives second 

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Samuel 6 verse 16 and here what 
is John do John leaps for Joy 

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when the ark arrives in his 
house. 

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Also this is an interesting one.
The ark stays in the house for 

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three months in Jerusalem. 
But here what is me redo? 

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She stays in three months in the
house of Elizabeth. 

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So, clearly the parallels here, 
it's pretty overwhelming. 

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Whelming evidence that we're 
supposed to understand that Mary

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is being portrayed as the New 
Covenant, the bearer of the New 

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Covenant, the new arc. 
So God's Dwelling Place, which 

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in the old Covenant was 
literally the Ark of the 

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Covenant will. 
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literally Mary verse 45 blessed?
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Who believed that there will be 
a fulfillment of what was spoken

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to her from the Lord. 
So Elizabeth, he says, Mary is 

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blessed or happy more literally,
because Believed in God's 

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promises unlike Zechariah. 
Who didn't believe God's 

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promises? 
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So isn't it? 
So fascinating when you dive 

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into the text in this way you 
see all these new links. 

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Now there is more that happens 
in this scene but that's all our

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lectionary covers today. 
So if you want to hear the next 

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section of text, that's The 
Magnificat when Mary says The 

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Magnificat. 
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every year which may be tomorrow
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listening to this podcast, let's
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places where we see comments 
here on this interaction between

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Mary and Elizabeth. 
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Our paragraph 5 to 3. 
This is about John the Baptist 

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St. 
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immediate precursor or 
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way prophet of the most high 
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of whom he is the last. 
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already from his mother's womb, 
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So here or there you hear the 
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even in the womb, which happened
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paragraph, 7, 1 7 is about John.
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the Holy Spirit even from his 
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himself, whom the Virgin. 
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Holy Spirit. 
Mary's visitation to Elizabeth. 

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Thus becomes a visit from God to
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Let's go to paragraph 2676 and 
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This is about being in communion
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blessed art thou among women. 
And blessed is the fruit of thy 

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womb. 
Jesus, after the Angels 

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greeting, we make Elizabeth's 
greeting our own filled with the

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Holy Spirit. 
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long six succession of 
generations who have called Mary

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blessed blessed is she who 
believed Mary is blessed among 

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women because she believed In 
the Fulfillment of the Lord's 

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word, Abraham because of his 
faith became a blessing for all 

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the nations of the earth. 
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became the mother of Believers 
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Earth. 
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Who is God's Own blessing? 
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holy Mary Mother of God with 
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And why is this granted me that 
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come to me? 
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the Hail Mary into woven with 
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We learn from today's passage in
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the word Lord, at the prompting 
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expresses the recognition of the
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paragraph 495 is about Mary's, 
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gospels. 
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acclaimed by Elizabeth at the 
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And even before the birth of her
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In fact, the one whom she 
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Spirit, who truly became her 
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According to the flesh was none,
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son. 
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Trinity, hence, the church 
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Mother of God theotokos So, here
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Catholic teaching on the 
doctrine that Mary is the mother

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of God. 
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trinitarian terms, because Mary 
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person of the Trinity she is by 
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and you can have a look at the 
show notes to take a look at 

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that paragraph. 
If you want more information 

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there, paragraph 148 is about 
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Is she who believed Elizabeth 
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Her blessed. 
Is she who believed that there 

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would be a fulfillment of what 
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Hard. 
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generations, have called Mary 
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So we'll leave it there for 
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I hope you have learned 
something new about this text 

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and hopefully you tune in again 
tomorrow.

