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Hi everyone. 
Welcome back to our logical 

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Bible study. 
We're continuing in the farewell

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discourse in John Chapter 13 
onwards. 

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Today we're looking at John 
chapter 14 verses 7 to 14. 

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So as always we want to look at 
the text start by reading it and

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then dive into the literal sense
of the text. 

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What did it probably mean in the
mind of the original author, as 

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far as we can? 
We can get to that. 

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So, here's the reading for 
today, Jesus said to his 

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disciples if you know me, you 
know, my father too, from this 

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moment, you know, him and have 
seen him. 

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Philip said, Lord let us see the
father and then we shall be 

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satisfied. 
Have I been with you all this 

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time? 
Philip said Jesus to him and you

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still do not know me to have 
seen me is to have seen the 

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father. 
So how can you say let us see 

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the father, do you not believe 
that I am in the father and the 

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father is in me? 
The words I say to you, I do not

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speak as from myself. 
It is the father living in me. 

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Who is doing this work? 
You must believe me when I say 

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that I am in the father and the 
father is in me I believe it on 

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the evidence of this work if for
no other reason. 

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I tell you most solemnly whoever
believes in me will perform the 

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same works. 
As I do myself, he will perform 

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even greater works because I am 
going to the father Whatever you

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ask in my name, I will do. 
So that the father may be 

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glorified in the son. 
If you ask for anything in my 

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name, I will do it. 
So, let's have a look at this 

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gospel text. 
So the context here, what's been

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happening? 
We're in the Last Supper. 

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So Jesus has begun the farewell 
discourse which begins towards 

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the end of chapter 13 and the 
things he's just said. 

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Prior to the reading today is my
father's house has many 

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mansions. 
I go to prepare a place for you 

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and then he also said, I am the 
way, the truth and the life. 

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No one comes to the father, 
except by me. 

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So what we're about to hear is 
actually an extension of that 

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very thought. 
No one comes to the father 

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except by me so verse 7, if you 
know me, you know, my father 

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too, from this moment, you know,
him and have seen him. so the 

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disciples are worried that they 
don't know the father and they 

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don't know the way to the 
father, but Jesus here says He's

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reassuring them. 
That he is the way to the 

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father. 
If they know him, they do know 

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the way to the father. 
Jesus, the way we can look at 

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this is Jesus is the perfect 
representation of the father, 

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he's the perfect messenger. 
So if one truly knows the sun, 

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they know the father and this is
a consistent theme all 

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throughout the Gospel of John 
Jesus, he is says that if they 

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have seen him, they have seen 
the father. 

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That's how closely United they 
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But then Philip says, Lord, let 
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shall be satisfied. 
So Philip has this really strong

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desire. 
He wants to See, the father. 

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Now Jesus has kind of just 
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Jesus has just said that they 
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So why does Phillip here feel 
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Lord let us see the father well 
he certainly doesn't understand 

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what Jesus has said. 
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Jesus has just promised to show 
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Rather than Jesus saying it's 
something that they already have

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access to. 
So maybe Phillip is hoping for 

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some sort of grand theophany big
Grand experience of the father 

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kind of like what Moses says in 
Exodus 33 where Moses says Lord 

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let me see your glory maybe it's
he's expecting this big thing 

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like that so that's certainly 
possible to Verse 9 have I been 

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with you all this time. 
Philip said Jesus to him and yet

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you still do not know me. 
So, Jesus has been saying all 

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throughout his ministry, things 
like I and the father are one. 

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So, by now, Philip in the other 
Apostles should have understood 

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this basic principle, in fact, 
Philip was one of the first two 

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cycles to be called, right. 
In John chapter 1. 

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So, Philip should have 
understood Jesus, basic identity

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by now. 
Jesus continues to have seen me 

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is to have seen the father. 
So how can you say let us? 

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See, the father. 
Now, Jesus, you have to be 

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careful here. 
Jesus is not claiming to be the 

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father, but rather to be the 
perfect representation of him 

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and if you go through the Gospel
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the specific claim. 
Jesus is making, he is the best 

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perfect representation of the 
father later in the New 

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Testament. 
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talks about him being sort of 
the if it image of the father 

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and Colossians 1:15 calls Jesus,
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invisible, God So this has a lot
of implications for our Theology

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of the Trinity verse 10. 
Do you not believe that I am in 

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the father? 
And the father is in me. 

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So there's this deep Union 
between the father and the son. 

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The father is in the sun and the
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That's how present they are to 
each other. 

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The words I say to you, I do not
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So Jesus emphasizes here as he 
does in lots of places that he's

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not speaking his own words, he's
speaking the words of the 

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father. 
Either Jesus mission is to 

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reveal the father to people 
that's what's going on. 

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It is the father living in me 
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So other translations have this 
as Works plural the father, does

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his works and that would make 
sense because in the context of 

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the Gospel of John Works means 
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So here we learn that, the 
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Jesus, this is probably new 
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We knew that Jesus had the 
approval of the father and 

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speaks the words of the father. 
But now we learn that the father

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actually dwells within Jesus 
himself. 

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He carries out actions through 
Jesus, when Jesus does his 

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healings. 
Not only is it designed to point

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people back to the father, it is
in a real sense. 

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The father himself doing these 
Works through Jesus. 

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It's this really close intimate 
connection between the father 

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and the son will probably never 
fully understand it. 

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But Jesus uses language like 
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verse 11. 
You must believe me. 

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When I say that I am in the 
father and the father is in me 

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Notice that you must believe 
he's telling his Apostles 

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because they're going to be the 
leaders of the church that they 

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need to correctly. 
Understand the relationship 

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between the Sun and the father 
as far as possible in order to 

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preach the message of the 
kingdom of God. 

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Jesus then says believe it on 
the evidence of this work if for

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no other reason. 
Other translations, render this 

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a little better. 
I think they put it as believe 

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me. 
For the sake of the works 

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themselves all throughout his 
ministry. 

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Jesus does Miracles or Works to 
help people understand his 

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identity. 
That's the point of them Jesus 

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here at the Last Supper, he 
recognizes that it's hard for 

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the apostles to understand the 
Deep connection between the 

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father and the son. 
So he encourages them to at 

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least believe even if they can't
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He encourages them to believe at
least based on what they have 

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seen the Miracles. 
The idea is, if they think 

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logically about the Miracles 
that they've seen, Jesus, do, 

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they should realize that these 
are only possible through the 

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father, so they don't have to 
fully understand the mysteries 

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of the Trinity. 
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about Jesus miracles and realize
that he must be empowered by the

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father. 
That's It's kind of Jesus almost

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Last Resort here. 
He says, if you can't believe 

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what I'm saying, at least 
believe, because of the Miracles

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verse 12. 
I tell you most solemnly. 

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So Jesus is about to say 
something quite important and 

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other translations might have 
this as amen. 

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Amen. 
I say to you or truly, truly, I 

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say to you, whoever believes in 
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Now remember believe means to 
trust in New Testament 

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terminology. 
So, whoever believes in me, is 

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someone who Trusts in Jesus 
identity and teachings, 

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continually not just believes in
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trust in his identity and 
teachings will perform the same 

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works. 
As I do myself, he will perform 

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even greater works. 
Now, this is quite striking and 

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it's quite a controversial 
Passage It says that people who 

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believe in Jesus will be able to
do better and Greater Works than

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Jesus himself. 
So let's talk about what we do 

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know from this passage will 
clearly The Works are Miracles. 

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Jesus says that Believers, True 
Believers will be able to do 

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great Miracles even greater than
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Now, the next verse clarifies 
that such Miracles are only 

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possible because Jesus himself 
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So people won't do it on their 
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Even Believers won't be able to 
do it. 

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On their own strength. 
It will in fact be Jesus doing 

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it through people. 
Now, does this apply to 

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everyone? 
Can every believer, do Miracles 

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equal to or greater than Jesus? 
Maybe it depends on what you 

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think about spiritual gifts and 
how Miracles work. 

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But we can say not necessarily 
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single believer will be able to 
do it to the same extent. 

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However, certainly the book of 
Acts, if you read the book of 

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Acts and then early church 
history, hurry. 

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It's Miracles were very active 
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So Jesus might have in mind 
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there's healings, there's 
raising the dead, but even 

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today, lots and lots of these 
things are happening all around 

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the world. 
There's healings all over the 

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world, people are being raised 
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Christians are still doing 
Miracles, a great book for this 

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and a incredibly eye-opening and
Incredibly scholarly in-depth 

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book. 
The catalogs all of these 

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modern-day Miracles that I'll 
recommend you Is a book called 

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Miracles, and it's by Craig 
Keener. 

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So it's a two volume set 
Miracles by Craig, Keener, huge 

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book, but it really goes through
all of these real-life examples 

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where Miracles have been 
recorded in recent times, not in

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2000 years ago, but in recent 
times, it's quite Incredible 

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Book. 
So if you're interested in 

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seeing how Christians have been 
able to do even Greater Works 

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than Jesus, check out that book,
And then Jesus says, because I 

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go to the father, so notice the 
word because this there's a link

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between people being able to do 
Miracles. 

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And Jesus going to the father in
context, this probably means 

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Jesus is trying to communicate 
that he's not simply going to 

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die or go out of existence. 
Once he leaves, he's actually 

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going to the Father in heaven so
therefore he will be able to 

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continue his work from heaven 
and make Miracles possible. 

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A couple of verses later, we 
learn not in today's reading but

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in next time that he will send 
his holy spirit to assist in the

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process of doing Miracles, 
that's in verse 16 and 17. 

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So Jesus will be in heaven to 
help the miracles happen and the

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Holy Spirit will be there as 
well. 

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There's another perspective on 
this though when it says, 

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because I send to the file, cuz 
I go to the father, in his 

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Ascension, Jesus body is 
glorified in Jesus, glorifies 

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Humanity. 
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That may be, what Jesus means is
through Jesus Ascension, he 

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enables these great works. 
These great miracles to be 

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performed because when the 
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book of Acts, they are united to
the Risen Jesus, and in that 

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sense, maybe that's what it 
means by saying, the Miracles 

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will be greater, because by then
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the Ascension verse 13, another 
controversial, passage whatever 

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you ask, for my name, whatever 
you ask for, in my name, I will 

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do. 
So we need to talk a bit about 

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name in the Bible particularly 
New Testaments time to do 

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something in a person's name was
basically an affirmation of the 

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person's identity. 
So wasn't like a magic word or a

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spell or something to invoke. 
A person's name was to invoke 

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their identity and everything 
they stand for. 

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So to do something in Jesus name
is basically to express faith in

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his identity and in Union with 
his will and because Jesus does 

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only the father's will. 
That means whenever we do things

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in Jesus name, we're also doing 
it in accordance with the 

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father's will. 
That's the basic idea. 

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It doesn't mean just saying 
Jesus name at the end of a 

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prayer. 
It actually means doing 

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something in accordance with 
Jesus identity, and his will. 

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So the teaching here is that, if
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apostles, if the apostles ask 
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and in the will of Jesus, Jesus 
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father's will and if it's the 
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want to do it. 
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this principle in the Our father
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of the father and the son. 
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apostles. 
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promise to all Christians today.
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the kingdom of God, particularly
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deliberately set things up, so 
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ground in those early years. 
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miracles, do continue to happen 
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that's given here does not apply
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way, I think, if you look at the
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the book. 
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apostles asked for a miracle 
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Will it happens straight away. 
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it doesn't always happen. 
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good Christians, pray for 
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in the father's will, but they 
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the apostles, which is who he's 
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that Miracles can still happen. 
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Jesus says is, so the father may
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Now, this is the purpose of all 
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be glorified and particularly, 
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apostles are trying to expand 
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preach God's Will, and God's 
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Jesus from heaven, will enable 
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he'll be at the right hand of 
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And in that sense, he's going to
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work that he does from the right
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If you ask for anything in my 
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a lot in that theologically So 
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we've been looking at a 
continues in the lectionary, in 

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the coming week days, we're 
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farewell discourse, but the very
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The only time you can hear that 
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sixth Sunday of Easter in year 
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So you might want to go through 
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that one, the sixth Sunday of 
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A is the very next Out of this, 
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So let's briefly take a look at 
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which reference here. 
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paragraph. 47 0 is in the 
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it's in the section about how is
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Here's what it says, the Son of 
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his Humanity, his own personal 
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in his soul, as in his body 
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the divine Case of the Trinity. 
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passage today from John chapter 
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So there's some deep trinitarian
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On paragraph 5 16 says, Christ's
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and deeds his silences and 
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being. 
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the father, Jesus can say 
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father and the father can say 
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My Chosen listen to him because 
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In order to do, his father's 
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characteristics of his Mysteries
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So, right in the middle of that 
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quote, Whoever has seen me, has 
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from John chapter 14. 
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share in God's saving love, we 
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become the object of petition 
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order to redeem. 
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we ask, the father in his name, 
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thought in paragraph, 26 one, 
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show notes. 
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new thing in the New Covenant. 
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which is a discussion about the.
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our father is our prayer if it 
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So the catechism talks a little 
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in the name of Jesus and what it
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of Jesus. 
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today. 
It's a passage that's well worth

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meditating on Thank you for 
listening and please tune in 

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again tomorrow.
