1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,500 Hi everyone. Welcome back to the logical. 2 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:17,300 Bible study podcast. Thank you so much for tuning in. 3 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:20,100 This is the podcast where we look at the Gospel reading from 4 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:24,400 today's Catholic Mass. And the lectionary today, if you 5 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,800 go to mass, you'll be looking at Matthew chapter 26, verses 14 to 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,500 25. And so we want to start by 7 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:34,800 reading the passage and then we really want to dig into the 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,400 text. What is the text saying? 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,900 What's the author trying to convey to his audience? 10 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:42,300 And that is the way we always want to start when we're 11 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:44,700 studying the Bible. So here's the passage from 12 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:50,000 Matthew chapter 26. One of the twelve the man called 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,300 Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests and said, what are 14 00:00:55,300 --> 00:00:58,800 you prepared to give me? If I hand him over to you, they 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,700 paid him 30 pieces of silver. And from that moment, he looked 16 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:04,700 for an opportunity to betray him. 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Now, on the first day of unleavened bread, the disciples 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,100 came to Jesus to say, what do you want us? 19 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:16,500 Where do you want us to make the preparations for you to eat the 20 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:20,600 Passover? Go to so-and-so in the city, he 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:26,000 replied and say to him. The master says, my time is near 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,600 it is at your house that I am keeping the Passover with my 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,700 disciples, the disciples did. What Jesus told them and 24 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:39,000 prepared the Passover When evening came here was at table 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,500 with the Twelve Disciples and while they were eating, he said 26 00:01:43,900 --> 00:01:46,600 I tell you. Solemnly one of you is about to 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,100 betray me. They were greatly distressed and 28 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:56,000 started asking him in turn. Not I Lord, surely he answered 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,500 someone who has dipped his hand into the dish. 30 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:02,800 With mine will betray me. The son of man is going to his 31 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,300 fate as the scriptures say he will. 32 00:02:06,100 --> 00:02:09,800 But alas for that man by whom the son of man is betrayed 33 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,200 better for that man. If he had never been born, 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,100 Judas, who was to betray him asked in his term. 35 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,900 Not I Rabbi Shirley They are your own words, answer Jesus. 36 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 So the context of this passage and we always want to start by 37 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,200 asking, what's the context we in the last week of Jesus life. 38 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:38,400 So by this point, in the gospel of Matthew, we've already had 39 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,800 Palm Sunday. He's already cleared the temple. 40 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:45,900 And now verse 14, one of the twelve, the man called Judas 41 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:49,300 Iscariot. So Judas is known for being the 42 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:50,700 traitor. But there's not much else that 43 00:02:50,708 --> 00:02:53,400 we know about him. Except we know that he was in 44 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,400 charge of the money fund for the ministry and that he was 45 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,100 stealing some of the money. So he loves money, he goes to 46 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:02,500 the chief priests. So the chief Priests of those 47 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:04,600 who were in charge of the religious activities in 48 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,000 Jerusalem, those who were in charge of the Temple. 49 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,100 Judas Knows by now that the chief priests Want Jesus dead 50 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:16,000 because they think is causing too much trouble, but he knows 51 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,800 as well that the chief priests are finding it hard to capture 52 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,000 him because he's constantly surrounded by the crowds. 53 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:26,700 So Judas figures out while maybe, I can help get Jesus to 54 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:29,500 them as long as there's something in it for me. 55 00:03:29,700 --> 00:03:33,900 So Judas Slips Away from the group for this meeting and it 56 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:38,600 appears that what we're about to see here happens on the Day of 57 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,900 Holy Week, if you sort of look at the chronology here it 58 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:44,100 appears to be Wednesday and indeed that is how it is, read 59 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:48,000 in the lectionary. Now we don't know what Jesus is 60 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,200 doing on the Wednesday. We don't have any recorded 61 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,800 things that Jesus does apparently on this day and so 62 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,500 many have taken it to mean that perhaps Jesus had a rest on the 63 00:03:57,500 --> 00:03:59,100 Wednesday. It's probably the last rest he 64 00:03:59,100 --> 00:04:02,800 gets because from then on obviously it's there's a lot 65 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,300 that happens in Holy Week so according to tradition and the 66 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:11,500 way the Lectionary presents it. What we're about to see here 67 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:14,600 with Judas, is the key event that happens on the Wednesday of 68 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,200 Holy Week and really it's the only thing that happens of 69 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,000 significance on that day in Holy Week, verse 15. 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,600 What are you prepared to give me if I hand him over to you. 71 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:29,600 So here we see the selfishness of Judas, his willing to hand 72 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:36,000 the Son of God over for money. Now we can't be sure but that 73 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 probably indicates to us, that Judas is not really a True 74 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,600 Believer and he's resisting the work of God in his life. 75 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:47,300 Otherwise he would recognize how precious Jesus is, and would not 76 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:50,500 want to give him up. So throughout the three years 77 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:53,400 that Judas has been with Jesus, it still hasn't clicked and he's 78 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,600 not really a genuine disciple in a way at least that's, we're 79 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,800 just guessing but it seems something like that has 80 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,000 happened. He hasn't quite Aged with what 81 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 God wants to do. Now notice this is the opposite 82 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,700 of the way, Mary treats Jesus, Remember Mary of Bethany who 83 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:15,000 pours the expensive, perfume on Jesus and gives him. 84 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,300 All she has. On the other hand here, we have 85 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:20,000 Judas trading away, Jesus for money. 86 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:24,600 And they paid him, Thirty pieces of silver so they give him this 87 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,500 money in advance, in exchange for him. 88 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:31,500 Setting up a capture for Jesus. Now that seems like a lot 89 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:34,200 because it mentions silver but actually it's not a heap it's 90 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,800 not a whole lot of money. I might last a few weeks or a 91 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,800 couple of months maybe but it's not an extraordinary amount of 92 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,900 money that they give to him, but we know that Judas loves money 93 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,800 so he's quite happy with her. Now Matthew goes out of his way 94 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,900 to mention the amount of silver coins. 95 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:53,600 He could have just said, they gave him money. 96 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,600 But Matthew specifically says, it's Thirty pieces of silver. 97 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,200 Because remember, Matthew is riding for Jews and Jews are 98 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,200 really interested in the Old Testament and how Jesus fulfills 99 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,300 the Old Testament. He wants his Jewish readers to 100 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:11,800 think of the prophecy in Zechariah 11, verse 12 in that 101 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,600 prophecy, the Lord's. Faithful Shepherd is depicted as 102 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:19,500 being portrayed for the for 30 pieces of silver. 103 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:23,800 So, there's a reference back here to this faithful servant 104 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,400 that Zechariah pictured in the Old Testament, and Matthew wants 105 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,000 his readers, to understand that Jesus is fulfilling that 106 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,200 prophecy of Zechariah verse 16. And from that moment he looked 107 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:37,100 For an opportunity to betray him. 108 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,100 So, Judas from, for the next few days is looking for a way to get 109 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:45,800 Jesus to be captured but eventually, as we'll see in the 110 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,700 Last Supper, it's actually Jesus that takes initiative. 111 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:54,300 And basically he says, now is the time to capture me verse 17 112 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:56,500 on the first day of unleavened bread. 113 00:06:57,300 --> 00:06:59,200 So we need to spend a bit of time talking about the 114 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,700 unleavened bread particularly in terms of timing because it can 115 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:04,500 get a bit confusing. So the Feast of unleavened 116 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:07,900 bread, it's this week-long feast and I've celebrated around the 117 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:11,500 time of Passover ever A year. So Passover, the Jews would 118 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:14,600 celebrate once a year and the Feast of unleavened bread was 119 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,400 done at a similar time to that this particular Feast. 120 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,200 The unleavened bread Feast is done in conjunction with 121 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,500 Passover because it commemorates, the fact that when 122 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:28,000 the Israelites had to leave Egypt in the Passover, they had 123 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,600 to leave without leavening there. 124 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,700 Do God. You said, get out of the house. 125 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:33,800 Don't bother living in your do just leave. 126 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:39,000 And by the time of Jesus, the Jews continued to celebrate the 127 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,700 Feast of unleavened bread. And they did that by removing 128 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:43,700 the leaven completely from the house. 129 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 And for them, Levin had come to represent its in. 130 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,400 So, the Feast of unleavened bread was a really important 131 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,100 part of the Feast of Passover. In terms of the timing, the 132 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:59,400 Passover was usually eaten on the first day of this week-long, 133 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Feast of unleavened bread and that's nice on the 15th. 134 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,500 That's kind of the date in Jewish Reckoning. 135 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,100 When you would have the Passover Nissan 15. 136 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:14,800 But by the time of Jesus, in popular speech, they'd come to 137 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,300 sort of change the way the words we use slightly. 138 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,600 So they used the day before Passover, they called that day 139 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:26,700 unleavened bread, okay? So the day before Passover is 140 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,000 the day that they call unleavened bread in the time of 141 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,700 Jesus, whereas technically the Passover feast signals the 142 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:36,400 actual start of unleavened bread, but it seems like that 143 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,200 day before had become known as the unleavened bread day. 144 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:42,799 Cuz that's the day in which Levin was actually removed from 145 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:44,400 the house. So leaven is removed from the 146 00:08:44,408 --> 00:08:48,300 house just before the start of the week of unleavened bread. 147 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:53,100 So we know that in this particular week in the year, 148 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:57,600 Jesus dies in 33 ad. We think it is in Holy Week, the 149 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,700 Passover was on Friday. So the Feast of unleavened 150 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,500 bread, technically began on the Friday but because of the way 151 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:06,700 the words were used in the time of Jesus. 152 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:11,300 This first day of unleavened bread as Matthew calls, it is 153 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:13,800 essentially the preparation day before Passover. 154 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,100 So we're talking here now about Thursday. 155 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,600 So the timing we've skipped forward to Thursday, Thursday of 156 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,500 Holy Week. April 2nd 33 ad that's the date 157 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:27,000 we're talking about now. Interestingly, this preparation 158 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,600 day is also the day on which the Passover Lambs are prepared for 159 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,500 Passover and their sacrificed and killed. 160 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,100 You could say Jesus, brings that aspect of Passover to 161 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:42,600 fulfillment here on, Holy Thursday on the preparation day 162 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:45,700 as he institute's. The Eucharist that is in a sense 163 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:49,000 of fulfillment of this preparation for Passover day. 164 00:09:50,700 --> 00:09:53,800 Now at this point on the Holy Thursday, Jesus is probably 165 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,800 staying with Mary Martha and Lazarus in Bethany that appears 166 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,700 to be where he stayed during Holy Week. 167 00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:01,900 So the next little speech that he gives his saying, from his 168 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,200 accommodation in Bethany, their disciples come to him, and they 169 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,400 say, where do you want us to make the preparations for you to 170 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,000 eat the Passover? So the disciples know that 171 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Passover is the following day on the Friday evening and all Jews, 172 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,900 celebrate the Passover. It's required and they know that 173 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:20,400 Jesus is going to want to celebrate. 174 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:24,000 You ate the Passover and as the leader of their Ministry, he's 175 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 going to want it celebrated in a particular way. 176 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,500 So they come to him and they check, where do you want to do 177 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:32,500 it? And his instructions Jesus has 178 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:34,900 thought about this and he's already set up a plan. 179 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,900 So Verse 18 Matthews version says go to so-and-so in the 180 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:41,300 city. So the city is Jerusalem. 181 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:43,400 He wants the disciples to go to Jerusalem. 182 00:10:44,300 --> 00:10:47,300 Now, the other gospels tell us a bit more details about how 183 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:51,000 exactly the disciples are defined, the person and find the 184 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,600 house. There's some details there about 185 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,200 someone carrying a water jar and it's quite interesting when you 186 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,200 dig into what's going on there. But then they go to the The 187 00:10:59,208 --> 00:11:04,200 person and it says, this is what they should say to the person, 188 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,600 the master says, my time is near it is at your house that I am 189 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,800 keeping Passover with my disciples. 190 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:15,700 So this person that they find is clearly a follower of Jesus, and 191 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:19,400 Jesus has probably set it up with them with this guy that 192 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,700 he's going to have a pass over there at his house. 193 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,500 So when the disciples speak to this person, whoever it is the 194 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:28,900 prior arrangements have already been made and it's kind of like 195 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:29,500 that. Sophomores. 196 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:32,800 Did you see using this password that unlocks access to the 197 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,200 house? It's kind of an interesting 198 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,600 setup that Jesus has done here. So who is this person? 199 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,700 Who's the person who owns the house? 200 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,700 The gospels, don't tell us. But some Scholars, reckon we can 201 00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:48,500 work it out. This person owns a house in 202 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:52,600 Jerusalem which is not a whole lot of people and based on where 203 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,700 the traditional Upper Room side is in Jerusalem today so you can 204 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:58,300 go there and they think they've found this upper room where the 205 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,300 where Holy Thursday, the Last Supper happened, it's in the 206 00:12:02,300 --> 00:12:06,000 southwest of the city in the area called Mount Zion and it's 207 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,400 quite a large room and quite a large house. 208 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,200 So it would appear if this is the correct size. 209 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Is that this person is quite wealthy? 210 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:18,200 And a lot of Scholars think that the person who owns the house 211 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,800 isn't, in fact, Mark the author of The Gospel of Mark, he's not 212 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,300 one of the Apostles but he does become a disciple a bit later 213 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:27,500 on. So maybe the person they meet 214 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:30,800 there is Mark, that's possible verse 19. 215 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,300 The disciples did what Jesus told them and prepared the 216 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:35,300 Passover. So they would have bought all 217 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:39,700 the necessary ingredients like bread, figs wine, and they get 218 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:44,800 ready. Verse 20, when evening came, he 219 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,000 was at table with the Twelve Disciples. 220 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,200 So he's apparently, having the official Passover meal comes. 221 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,700 Sometimes called a seder meal, and it's after Sundown, there 222 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:56,300 there is the group and their reclining around the table. 223 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:59,200 There might have been other disciples in the room as well 224 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,000 though. Apparently, there's only 12 at 225 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,800 the table. We're not sure how many people 226 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,200 exactly Jesus invited to the upper room verse 21. 227 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Jesus says, I tell you most solemnly or truly, truly, I say 228 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,600 unto you. One of you is about to betray 229 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,600 me, so Jesus has Supernatural knowledge of what's about to 230 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,100 happen. Why does he even say this? 231 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:22,300 If he knows it's going to happen. 232 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:25,500 Why does he even bring it up? Probably because he wants to 233 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:27,900 make the Betrayal happen. He wants to get the events 234 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:30,700 happening in motion. His he wants things to start 235 00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:33,000 because he has a timeline that he wants to follow. 236 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,800 He knows the time that he needs to die and the events need to 237 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,400 start happening pretty soon. So maybe by asking this question 238 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:44,200 or in fact by just saying one of you is going to Betray me, then 239 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,600 it's going to be a trigger for Judas to actually start the 240 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,600 Betrayal that's possible. Verse 22, the disciples were 241 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,600 greatly distressed. So they're actually quite 242 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,600 surprised by this except Judas obviously but Jesus had been 243 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,500 saying for some time that he would be killed and handed over 244 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 but now he has a new bit of information which is that one of 245 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,300 them would be the one that betrays him and that shocks 246 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:09,100 them. So they start asking him intern 247 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:12,700 not I Lord surely. Now, that's probably not 248 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:15,300 indignant and angry but they're probably. 249 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:17,500 Each disciple is probably worried. 250 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,300 They're probably uncertain. Is it me? 251 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,900 I hope it's not me. So, they're kind of looking for 252 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:24,500 reassurance from Jesus. Surely, it's not me. 253 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:28,800 Lord. Jesus response, is this someone 254 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,600 who is dipped his hand into the dish with me, will betray me now 255 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,200 in this context, it's probably just an that phrase is just an 256 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,800 affirmation that one of the people at the table is going to 257 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,500 do it. So Jesus is just repeating 258 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:45,300 himself. So when Jesus says someone who 259 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:47,500 is dipped his hand into the dish with me. 260 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:50,200 Well, they were all using that same Dish as part of the meal. 261 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,200 So it's kind of just a Jewish way of saying someone at this 262 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,600 table. Will betray me. 263 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:59,200 Now, in John's gospel, there's something else Jesus says, which 264 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,900 is the person I share this bread with and then he breaks the 265 00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:04,900 bread and gives it to Judas. That's a different line here. 266 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:07,600 He just says in general, it's someone at the table. 267 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:14,300 Verse 24. The son of man is going to his 268 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:16,600 fate as the scriptures say he will. 269 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,100 So Jesus year says, something quite profound. 270 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:22,300 He says that the Messiah must die, and it's about to happen. 271 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:26,500 The son of man is going to his fate, and he says that it's 272 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:29,600 predicted in the scriptures now. He doesn't tell us which 273 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,400 scripture, he's thinking of, and Matthew doesn't tell us either. 274 00:15:32,900 --> 00:15:35,400 But he's probably thinking in particular of the suffering 275 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,300 servant, passage in Isaiah 52. 53. 276 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:42,300 Possibly also, the Zechariah prophecies about Out, the 277 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:47,200 Messiah being pierced. So, Jesus reminds them that it 278 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,600 is in the scriptures that the Messiah Must Die. 279 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:53,300 Why did the disciples? And in fact, his followers in 280 00:15:53,308 --> 00:15:55,900 general, they didn't seem to understand this idea that the 281 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:58,900 Messiah is going to die. They did believe the Old 282 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:01,400 Testament, but it just seems that at this particular time 283 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,500 period because of the way the Romans had taken over their 284 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:07,000 land. They kind of forgotten about 285 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,200 those prophecies that talk about the suffering servant and they 286 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,800 tended to focus more on these other prophecies which talk 287 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,000 about a glorious. All victory over God's enemies. 288 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,800 So they were kind of blinded by their presuppositions of what 289 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,400 the Messiah would do. And as a result, they had 290 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,100 forgotten about these Prophecies of the suffering servant that 291 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:28,600 can happen to us as well. We can be blinded by our own 292 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,100 presuppositions about what God should be doing or what it's 293 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:36,100 going to look like. Then Jesus finishes the sentence 294 00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:39,700 by saying, but a less for that man by whom the son of man is 295 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:43,800 betrayed. So Jesus says that these events 296 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,200 must happen according to prophecy but the person who 297 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,700 actively brings them about is committing a real evil. 298 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,600 Now, this tells us a lot about God's Providence. 299 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,900 Notice what's going on here? Both God's predestination and 300 00:16:57,900 --> 00:17:02,500 Man's Free Will is involved. God ordains certain events to 301 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:06,300 happen but people are Still accountable for their Free Will 302 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:08,200 decisions. Do you notice that Judas is 303 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,700 entirely accountable for what he did, Even though God, in some 304 00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:16,000 way had appointed the events. So, that's a verse that's well 305 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,900 worth reflecting on in terms of predestination. 306 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:23,599 Jesus says, better for that man, if he had never been born. 307 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:27,800 So Jesus here probably means because Judas is about to 308 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,300 commit, such a grave evil. He's about to hand Jesus. 309 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:34,600 The son of God over, it would have been better if Judas had 310 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,900 never existed. Possibly also a reference to 311 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,000 giudices own fate Jesus. Here could be saying maybe Judas 312 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,900 is going to hell, and he's going to wish that he was never born 313 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:52,100 possibly something like that. Verse 25 Judas who was to betray 314 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:56,800 him, asked in his turn, not I Rabbi Shirley, so Judas knows 315 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,600 full well that it is going to be him, but since everyone else has 316 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,000 asked the question, it gets to his turn and he says, oh well I 317 00:18:03,008 --> 00:18:05,600 guess, I better say it as well. He doesn't want to be the odd 318 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,200 one out. So he says not, I Rabbi surely. 319 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,100 Now, interestingly, the others call him Lord, but he a Judas 320 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:16,800 calls him Rabbi there probably is a significant difference here 321 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,900 because to call someone Lord. Is to submit to their Authority 322 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:23,700 and to recognize one's own status as a servant. 323 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,800 Where is just a call? Someone Rabbi is respectful, but 324 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,500 it's kind of non-committal. It's not necessarily saying that 325 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:34,000 you are a follower of them. So maybe Judas is not willing to 326 00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:36,100 commit personally to call him Lord. 327 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Jesus response is interesting to what Judith says. 328 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,600 He says, they, they are your own words. 329 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,200 Or as other translations put it you have said. 330 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,300 So what does that mean? There's some translational 331 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:52,000 difficulties here. You have said. 332 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,300 So there's two possible meanings of this phrase and you can sort 333 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:57,500 of think about which one you think is most likely. 334 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,800 This could be a kind of non answer from Jesus when he says 335 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,300 you have said. So it's kind of like he's not 336 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:07,600 confirming or denying whether Judas is right? 337 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,300 And it's but in that case it's basically like saying that is 338 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:13,700 what you claim and he's just repeating a To him. 339 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:17,600 But he's Jesus is not confirming or denying it or it could be 340 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,800 that the phrase you have said. So means. 341 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,800 Yes, you have got it. Correct. 342 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,000 We're not sure. We're not sure. 343 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,600 Which of those is the best way to understand that Jewish 344 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,100 phrase, you have said. So, because Jesus uses the same 345 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:33,900 words in his conversation with Pontius Pilate where Pontius 346 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:38,700 Pilate says In effect. He says, are you the Messiah or 347 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:40,800 I in fact, he says, are you the king of the Jews? 348 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,000 And Jesus says, you have said so. 349 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,800 So there's a question about what does that mean? 350 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,900 Now later on, Jesus will do the thing where he gives Judas bread 351 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:55,500 and then Judas leaves the room. But at this particular Point, 352 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:59,400 Matthew starts to describe the institution of the Lord's supper 353 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,500 and this is where our reading ends for today. 354 00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:05,900 So a lot of really interesting interactions going on here on 355 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:09,900 Holy Thursday. There's one catechism reference 356 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:13,500 and I'll read that out for you. So in paragraph 6 10 the 357 00:20:13,508 --> 00:20:16,900 Catholic Church teaches and this is a commentary on the Last 358 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:20,600 Supper, it says Jesus gave the Supreme expression of his free 359 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,100 offering of himself at the meal shared with the 12 apostles on 360 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:27,900 the night. He was betrayed on the eve of 361 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:31,100 his passion while still free Jesus. 362 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:33,200 Transformed. This last supper with the 363 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,900 apostles into the memorial of his voluntary offering to the 364 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:39,900 father for this. Elevation of men, this is my 365 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:43,100 body which is given for you. This is The Blood of My Blood of 366 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:46,200 the Covenant, which is poured out for many for the Forgiveness 367 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,700 of sins. So that's the only catechism 368 00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:53,400 reference to this particular part, but once we get to the 369 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,200 official institution of the Last Supper, in the Eucharist, then 370 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,800 there's a lot that catechism has to say about the meaning of 371 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,300 that. 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