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Hi everyone, welcome back to 
daily gospel exegesis and if 

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you've been listening for a 
while you know how it works. 

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We really want to give you the 
tools to understand the literal 

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sense of the biblical text. 
What was the author trying to 

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say when he use these particular
words in this particular time 

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period? 
So really Getting into the study

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of the Bible text itself today, 
we're continuing in the great 

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High Priestly prayer of Jesus. 
We're looking at John chapter, 

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17 verses 20 to 26. 
Jesus raised his eyes to heaven 

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and said, holy father, I pray 
not only for these but also for 

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those who through their words 
will believe in me, may they all

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be one father? 
May they be one in us as As you 

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are in me and I am in you so 
that the world may believe it 

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was you who sent me. 
I have given them the glory you 

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gave to me. 
That they may be one. 

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As we are one with me in them 
and you in me. 

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May they be so completely one 
that the world will realize that

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it was you who sent me? 
And that I have loved them as 

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much as you have loved me. 
Father, I want those. 

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You have given me to be with me 
where I am so that they may 

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always see the glory. 
You have given me because you 

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have loved me before the 
foundation of the world. 

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Father, righteous one. 
The world has not known you but 

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I have known you. 
And these have known that you 

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have sent me. 
I have made your name known to 

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them and will continue to make 
it known so that the love with 

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which you loved me, may be in 
them and so that I may be in 

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them. 
So let's start as we always do, 

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by considering the context, what
is just happened? 

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So the Last Supper has finished,
and they're walking towards the 

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Garden of Gethsemane and it 
appears maybe they've stopped to

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pray somewhere. 
This prayer that Jesus is 

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praying today. 
It started at the start of 

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chapter 17. 
It's often called the high 

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Priestly prayer of Jesus. 
And when we looked at it 

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yesterday, there's at the the 
first part of the prayer has a 

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particular focus on. 
Jesus asking the father to watch

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over the apostles when they're 
faced difficult trials in the 

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world. 
And we looked at that yesterday 

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and as you would have heard, 
when I read that passage out. 

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There's some really deep 
complex. 

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Trinitarian theology in here. 
There's A deep mystical Unity 

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that Jesus is talking about 
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And so in this podcast, we're 
not going to be able to dry up 

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all of the riches that Jesus 
was, you know, probably 

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intending. 
Even we're just going to do our 

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best to see. 
What does it mean on the most 

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literal level of the text? 
But this is one of those Bible 

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passages where perhaps the best 
way to learn from it is to sit 

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with a meditate on it. 
Let's start our exploration here

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at the start of verse 20. 
Now this Phrase here is not 

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actually in the original. 
It says Jesus raised his eyes to

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heaven and said, holy father. 
Now, that was part of earlier, 

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in John chapter 17, but the 
lectionary has also added it to 

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the start of today's reading, 
just to make it a bit clearer 

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and give it a bit of context 
before Jesus launches into the 

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prayer. 
Jesus says, I pray not only for 

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these so Jesus up until now was 
praying for the apostles. 

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But now he says he's probably 
not only for these but also for 

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those who through their words 
will believe in me. 

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So Jesus is now going to pray 
for all those who will believe 

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through the preaching of the 
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and that probably means by 
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He's thinking of all future 
Christian Believers so probably 

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we if we're Christians Genes are
included in Jesus prayer here. 

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Verse 21. 
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language of Oneness. 
May they all be one. 

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So Jesus, here is praying that 
all Christians past present and 

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future will be United in will 
and Mission. 

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That's the main meaning of will 
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Mission, some Scholars have 
pointed out that because Jesus 

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wants all future Christians to 
be one. 

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May they all be one if he really
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Jesus might be talking about a 
deep Oneness, which actually 

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transcends time and space. 
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probably talking about a Oneness
that derives, From the Trinity 

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itself, who is outside of time. 
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before, may they all be one and 
possibly in the context of 

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discussions about relationships 
between Christian denominations,

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and maybe The ecumenical 
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talked about in those 
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the ecumenical movement is so 
that all Christians might all be

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one. 
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keep in mind the next part of 
the verse, the next phrase in 

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this verse because Jesus is 
going to tell us what it's going

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to take in order. 
To achieve that Oneness father, 

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may they be one in us. 
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not that Christians would be one
in and of themselves, but rather

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be United to God under the 
father and the son, that's the 

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Oneness that Jesus wants. 
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I am in you. 
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Jesus is talking to the father 
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He's talking about the Deep 
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already have as members of the 
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Jesus is saying that Christians 
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Oneness amongst themselves and 
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So, to go over that again, 
there's this deep Oneness that 

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already exists between the 
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And Jesus wants Christians to be
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We should never forget the kind 
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here. 
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mystical Union between 
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A deep mystical Union between 
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Now that would include being in 
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We can't have a deep Unity with 
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his will. 
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of the ecumenical movement or at
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support The ecumenical movement.
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that Christians cannot be one 
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will. 
That's difficult in the academic

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medical movement, because 
different Christians have 

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different opinions, and 
different understandings of God.

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And so, it makes it quite 
difficult to achieve that 

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particular thing. 
So with that said, Jesus now 

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explains what he wants. 
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union, Unity to be so that the 
world may believe it was you who

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sent me Jesus desire. 
Is that Christians would be 

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clearly United to the father's 
will and then the world will 

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take notice of Christians. 
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realize that Jesus was indeed 
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That's the end goal of Christian
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notice. 
And to realize that Jesus has in

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fact, been sent by God. 
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Then According To Jesus is not 
so much for the church per se as

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it is, but so, that more people 
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kingdom and his church. 
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Unity to bring others into that 
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So, one of the early Christian 
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Cyril of Alexandria says this 
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Christ Wishes. 
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state of Unity by maintaining a 
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of will being mingled together 
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and in the Law of Peace and Love
for one another, he wishes them 

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to be bound together. 
Tightly with an unbreakable Bond

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of love that they may Advanced 
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they're freely chosen 
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Might even become an image of 
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conceived to exist between the 
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So such deep complex, relational
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Here, even from the church 
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this passage. 
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consider that Scholars have 
pointed out is that if Jesus 

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wants the world, to notice the 
church and in terms of noticing 

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the church's Unity, that means 
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Be visible and organized. 
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extent. 
What Jesus wants the church to 

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look like verse 22. 
I have given them the glory. 

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You gave to me. 
Jesus is talking about the 

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apostles. 
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reference to the Divine 
communion which exists between 

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the father and the son. 
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now entered, the kingdom of God,
they have their in fellowship 

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with God, they have achieved 
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Jesus is saying that they have 
experienced this Divine 

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communion of the Trinity also, 
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The apostles, According To Jesus
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that he's speaking the Divine 
Union with God, Then he adds 

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this to the end that they may be
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So Jesus desires that the 
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would be United, just like the 
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Standard to look, too. 
Isn't it? 

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The unity of the Trinity is what
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Christians to look like. 
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Verse 23, the he starts to use 
even more deep language with me 

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in them and you in me. 
So it's the language of deep 

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abiding. 
Leti the Trinity dwells within 

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Christians both individually and
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stay joined to God, may they be 
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Literally. 
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Notice that Jesus says he 
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sort of one or somewhat one, he 
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United, just as the father and 
the son are now, naturally, that

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would be impossible to have 
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Achieve 100% Unity T by 
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remember, it's the trinities 
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this Unity. 
So it is possible through God 

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and then Jesus against it is 
that the world will realize that

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it was you who sent me and that 
I have loved them as much as you

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love me. 
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translation. 
It's understandable because 

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there's such a difficult 
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In those different pronouns 
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I think our lectionary doesn't 
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So our lectionary has it as and 
that I have loved them as much 

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as you have loved me. 
What the text actually just says

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here is an test, love them as 
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And so that would suggest the 
text is talking about the 

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father. 
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As much as the father loves 
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better translation. 
So that is a profound Truth. 

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The Father loves Christians just
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Jesus wants the world to realize
that the father has a special 

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love for Christians. 
We should never forget that. 

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The father loves the world and 
that's certainly a teaching of 

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the Gospel of John and he also 
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And this verse says he loves 
them as much as he loves his son

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and that is an incredible 
privilege that we get to be a 

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part of Verse 24. 
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I want those. 
You have given me to be with me,

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where I am Jesus desires, that 
his followers can be with him in

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heaven. 
That's what he means by those. 

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You have given me as we've seen 
a few times in this podcast. 

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That's a reference to Christian 
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This is a desire that his 
followers would be with him in 

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heaven. 
I want those, you have given me 

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to be with me where I am. 
You could also interpret this to

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mean. 
He wants followers to be to have

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the Divine Unity. 
To the same extent that Jesus 

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has with the father, something 
like that, but notice how strong

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Jesus desire is to be with his 
people. 

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I want those, you have given me 
to be with me, were to be with 

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me, where I am, Jesus wants us 
to be with him, then he adds 

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this so that they may always see
the glory, you have given me. 

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So if Jesus here is talking 
about, he wanting Christians to 

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be in heaven with him and that 
would certainly seem to be 

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what's going on here. 
Jesus is Desiring. 

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The Christians can see him in 
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God. 
And in fact, that is a Christian

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teaching in heaven, Christians 
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His True trinitarian Glory. 
We will be able to see Jesus 

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with the glory, that the father 
has given him in Catholic 

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theology. 
We call this State the beatific 

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Vision that is what Christians 
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John the author of this passage 
would later reflect on this 

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teaching by saying beloved we 
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Now, what we shall be has not 
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We do know that when it is 
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That's in 1, John 3:2. 
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phrase because you have loved me
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world. 
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trinitarian truth that you could
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you have loved me before the 
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The father has begotten. 
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bestowed glory on him, since 
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existed before time existed, the
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loved him and he continues Has 
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That's what he calls him in this
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you, so, the world, which is 
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father, or his will, because 
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So Jesus himself knows the 
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known that you have sent me. 
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Says, Christian, Believers, 
present and future are those who

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know Jesus is sent by God. 
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Of those who know Jesus is sent 
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Verse 26, I have made your name 
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So Jesus says I have revealed 
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followers and will continue to 
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This is interesting because 
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the world. 
But he still he promises here to

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continue to make the father 
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followers. 
So he must be teaching that he's

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going to do that from Heaven. 
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Christians through the Holy 
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And we see that particular Lee 
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Jesus talks about the role of 
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another amazing thing to draw 
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ministry and his service. 
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his death. 
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Christians for all eternity, 
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guidance of the church. 
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loved me. 
May be in them and so that I may

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be in them. 
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Believers, would be infused with
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own presence. 
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love that the father that he's 
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there's so much going on there 
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on if we were to summarize, this
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High Priestly prayer. 
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through the Holy Spirit, the 
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father has loved the Sun from 
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Becomes a living reality in 
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know the father whom Jesus has 
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Holy Spirit. 
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The disciples love and 
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communion will increase until at
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They reached the goal of 
remaining forever in the 

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father's house. 
So that is the end of the great 

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High Priestly prayer. 
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this podcast for a while, over 
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This ends the long section of 
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Jesus gives on Holy Thursday. 
For the next few days in the 

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podcast will be looking at 
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We have finished the complex 
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Thursday and you're probably 
quite excited about that because

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although there's a lot of 
richness in them and we've 

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There's also a lot of depth in 
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So, well done on getting to this
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So that's the end of chapter 17.
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Gospel of John, after this you 
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describes the arrest of Jesus in
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trials on, Holy Thursday and 
Good Friday. 

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Now that whole chapter chapter 
18 is read on Every Good Friday 

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if you go to Mass on Good Friday
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chunks so you don't get a chance
to really meditate on specific. 

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So so we want to break down the 
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bonus episodes of the podcast 
and you can get access to those 

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bonus episodes by becoming a 
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So, if you've enjoyed the way 
that we've been analyzing these 

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small parts of texts from the 
Gospel of John and you'd like to

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see the same thing happen to 
chapter 18 and 19, you won't get

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a chance as part of the regular 
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Vehicle year. 
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podcast, then you can get access
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do in exegesis of parts, of 
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We break it down into smaller 
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the show notes. 
So let's finish today and let's 

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finish the sayings of Jesus on 
Holy Thursday by looking at some

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catechism passages, as we always
do, there's quite a few places 

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in the catechism, which make 
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So this, we just want to read 
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paragraph, 260. 
This is about the Trinity and 

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the works that the Trinity does 
the ultimate end of the whole 

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Divine economy is the entry of 
God's creatures into the perfect

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Unity of the Blessed Trinity. 
T, but even now, we are called 

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to be a dwelling for the Most 
Holy Trinity. 

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If a man loves me says the Lord,
he will keep my word and my 

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father will love him and we will
come to him and make our home 

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with him. 
That is an incredible Catholic 

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teaching right there, the whole 
point of the Divine economy, the

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whole point of salvation for 
humans is so that we as 

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creatures could become United to
the Blessed Trinity paragraph 

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877. 
This is about the ecclesial 

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Ministry. 
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sacramental, nature of ecclesial
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collegial character. 
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his ministry, the Lord Jesus 
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of the new Israel and the 
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Iraqi chosen together. 
They were also sent out together

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and they're fraternal Unity 
would be at the service of the 

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Fraternal. 
Communion of the faithful, they 

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would reflect and witness to the
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for this reason, every Bishop 
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From within the Episcopal 
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bishop of Rome, the successor of
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Peter and the head of the 
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So also priests exercise their 
Ministry from within the 

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Presbyterian of the diocese. 
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bishop. so that particular 
passage talks about how Jesus 

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wanted the apostles to work, 
particularly as people, who are 

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going to spread the kingdom of 
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priests and Bishops today, 
Paragraph 8, 2 0. 

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This is about Unity of course a 
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has been about Unity Christ. 
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Unity on his church from the 
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This Unity, we believe subsists 
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something she can never lose and
we hope that it will continue to

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increase Until the End of Time 
Christ. 

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Always gives you this church, 
the gift of unity, but the 

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church must always pray and work
to maintain reinforce and 

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perfect. 
The unity that Christ Wills for 

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her. 
This is why Jesus himself prayed

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at the hour of his passion and 
does not cease praying to his 

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father for the unity of his 
disciples that they may all be 

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one as you father are in me and 
I am in you may they also be one

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in us. 
So the world may know that you 

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have sent me. 
The desire to recover. 

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The unity of all Christians is a
gift of Christ and a call of the

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holy spirit. 
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is the desire to do ecumenism 
is, in fact, a good one one 

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that's motivated by the holy 
spirit because Jesus himself 

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wants Oneness in the church 
paragraph 690. 

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This is about the Son and the 
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glorified, he can in turn, send 
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the father to the Those who 
believe in him, he communicates 

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to them his glory, that is the 
Holy Spirit, who glorifies him 

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from that time on this joint 
Mission will be manifested in 

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the children, adopted by the 
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The mission of the spirit of 
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Christ and make them live in 
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Lastly paragraph 2751, this is 
about Jesus prayer. 

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Finally, in this prayer Jesus 
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knowledge in separately. 
One of the father and of the son

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which is the very mystery of the
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So thank you for sticking with 
us through these past three or 

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four weeks, as we've looked at 
the complex teachings that Jesus

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gives on Holy Thursday at the 
Last Supper in the farewell 

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discourse and now in the great 
High Priestly prayer. 

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I hope you'll agree that digging
into it in this way. 

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Gives us so much richness that 
we might not get to think about 

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or understand. 
If we just listen to a sermon at

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church, Thanks again for 
listening. 

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again tomorrow.