1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,300 Hi everyone. Welcome again to the Daily 2 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:17,600 gospel exegesis podcast, created by The Logical Bible study 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Ministry. Thanks for listening as always, 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,800 our goal in this podcast is to help you understand. 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,200 The literal sense of scripture from a Catholic perspective and 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,700 our reading for today is Mark chapter 9 verse Versus 2213. 7 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:34,100 So here's the reading you would hear it today's math. 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,900 Jesus Took with him Peter and James and John and led them up a 9 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:44,600 high mountain where they could be alone by themselves, they're 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,100 in the present in their presence. 11 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:50,200 He was transfigured, his clothes became dazzling, Lee White 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,600 whiter than any Earthly bleacher could make them Elijah appeared 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,200 to them with Moses. And they were walking with 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Jesus, then Peter spoke to Jesus Rabbi. 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,400 He said, it is wonderful for us to be here. 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,300 So, So let us make three tents one for you. 17 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:10,500 One for Moses and one for Elijah. 18 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:14,600 He did not know what to say. They were so frightened. 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,800 And a cloud came covering them in Shadow and there came a voice 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,800 from the cloud. This is my son. 21 00:01:22,900 --> 00:01:27,900 The Beloved listen to him. Then suddenly when they looked 22 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:32,300 around they saw no one with him anymore, but only Jesus. 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,500 As they came down from the mountain, he warned them to tell 24 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:40,400 no one what they had seen until after the son of man had risen 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,600 from the dead. They observe the warning 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,200 Faithfully though among themselves. 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,400 They discussed what rising from the dead could mean? 28 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,400 And they put this question to him. 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,900 Why did the scribes say that Elijah has to come first? 30 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:00,500 True. He said Elijah is to come first 31 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:04,300 and to see that everything is as it should be yet. 32 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:08,100 How is it that the scripture say about the son of man, that he is 33 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:11,200 to suffer grievously and be treated with contempt? 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,700 However, I tell you that Elijah has come and they have treated 35 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:20,300 him as they pleased just as the scriptures say about him. 36 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,600 So that's our text for today and we're going to see here the 37 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,900 Transfiguration the famous event. 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,300 A lot of people treat this as a bit of an awkward event because 39 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:36,100 we're not entirely sure what to do with it, and that's makes 40 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:37,600 sense. Because in a lot of ways, what 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,100 happens here at the Transfiguration is a mystery? 42 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:43,100 There's some aspects of it, that we don't fully understand. 43 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:46,200 But what's interesting about this reading is the so much 44 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,800 packed in here. So many references to the Old 45 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,500 Testament and so many different things going on theologically 46 00:02:51,500 --> 00:02:55,000 and really, it's One of those texts that you could keep Mining 47 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 and keep learning new things all the time. 48 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,800 So we're just going to try and touch on each of the main areas. 49 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:04,300 So what's it context here? Jesus has been doing Ministry 50 00:03:04,300 --> 00:03:07,800 all around Galilee and just prior to, this has announced to 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,300 his Apostles that he's going to suffer. 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,000 And also they should expect to suffer if they want to inherit 53 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,100 eternal life. So, keep that context in mind. 54 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:22,300 So we're now going to begin what a lot of Scholars will consider 55 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:25,600 to be the Second half of Mark's gospel and there's some 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,400 interesting parallels here between the baptism, which 57 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,400 Begins the first half of Mark's gospel and then the 58 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Transfiguration which Begins the second half and we'll see those 59 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,700 parallels as we go. So verse 2 now in verse 20, now 60 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:42,300 lectionary it's actually taken out a phrase here because if 61 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:45,200 they read this phrase it may not make sense to start with this 62 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,800 phrase. But if you look at your Bible, 63 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,000 verse 2 starts with after six days. 64 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:53,500 So this is six days after Jesus has Been speaking to the 65 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:56,900 apostles about suffering, which is what's the previous thing 66 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:58,100 that happened in the gospel of Mark? 67 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:01,900 So six days later. Now the idea of six days some 68 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:05,400 Scholars think there might be an illusion here to the theophany 69 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,300 of Mount Sinai. So you remember the story in the 70 00:04:08,308 --> 00:04:11,700 book of Exodus, Moses goes up the mountain and The Cloud of 71 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:16,399 God's presence covers Mount Sinai for six days before God 72 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:18,500 spoke to Moses. And you can see that in Exodus 73 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:21,700 chapter 24 and that's interesting because Mark doesn't 74 00:04:21,700 --> 00:04:25,900 usually tell us How many days there are between events and 75 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:27,700 what the exact chronology is of things. 76 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:29,500 But here he says, after six days. 77 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:33,100 So he probably is trying to draw his readers to a parallel 78 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,300 between Moses and what happens here at the Transfiguration. 79 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:39,500 So Jesus Took with him Peter and James and John. 80 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,400 So he takes his three innermost disciples, this is like his 81 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,400 inner circle of disciples so there's some things and some 82 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,400 events that he only allows the inner circle of disciples to see 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,100 And there's some things he only trusts them with. 84 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,300 So from this, we learn, there's a hierarchy even within the 85 00:04:58,300 --> 00:05:01,100 apostles. So these three men, Peter James, 86 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:04,100 and John go on to become very prominent leaders in the church. 87 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:06,900 So, it seems that Jesus is deliberately bringing these 88 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:10,500 three, because he wants them to witness this because they are 89 00:05:10,508 --> 00:05:12,300 going to strengthen the other Apostles. 90 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:15,600 And then, it's going to inform the way they leave the church in 91 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,200 the future, so he leads them up a high mountain in scripture. 92 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,500 People go to mountains, to be closer to heaven. 93 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,500 And to be closer to God and this event, the fact that they go up 94 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:29,600 a mountain, it seems to deliberately mirror the way that 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Moses ascended Mount Sinai. So you can see, this is like the 96 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,700 Mount Sinai event of the New Covenant. 97 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:39,300 The mail tonight go up, we're not sure it's not. 98 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,200 The name is a given to us most Scholars. 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,000 Have thought it might be Mount table which you certainly in the 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,900 area although it could also be Mount Hermon which is in the 101 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:51,600 same area of Galilee as well. So the text says, they wanted to 102 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,000 be alone by themselves. So, Jesus, specifically wants to 103 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,300 be away from the crowds. He only wants his three 104 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:01,100 innermost Apostles to see this. You doesn't want the crowds to 105 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:02,800 see what happens at the top of the mountain. 106 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,200 So we're actually quite privileged in what we learn 107 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,600 here, because even most of the disciples did not see what is 108 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,300 recounted in today's Gospel. And then Mark says, they're in 109 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:15,400 their presence, he was transfigured. 110 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:19,000 Now, the word transfigured, it literally means his appearance 111 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,800 changed now Matthews version actually adds a comment here 112 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,700 Matthews version of the Transfiguration adds the his 113 00:06:25,700 --> 00:06:29,800 face Shone like the Sun, so he became dazzlingly White. 114 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:33,700 And then in verse 3, it says his clothes became dazzling, Lee 115 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:37,500 white, or another translation is his garments became Glistening. 116 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,700 Now in scripture clothing is often a visible expression of 117 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:44,400 the person. So, a person's clothes, tell you 118 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,100 about the identity of the person. 119 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,600 So the fact that Jesus clothes here, turned white, probably 120 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,100 supposed to indicate his divinity or his Purity, or maybe 121 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:56,200 it's supposed to indicate his Holiness. 122 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,400 A Holiness that can only come from God, possibly all of those. 123 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,900 There's some other places where white garments a prominent. 124 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:08,000 So in Matthew chapter, 28 that angel at the Tomb has dazzlingly 125 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 white garments and there's other places in the Old Testament to 126 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:15,200 and then Mark adds this editorial comment that none of 127 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,600 the other gospel authors ad, which is that his clothes became 128 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,700 whiter than any Earthly bleacher could make them. 129 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:24,900 So you can really hear Peters eyewitness. 130 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:26,600 Recollections, coming through here. 131 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:29,900 Remember, Mark's gospel, Mark, got most of his information, it 132 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:33,100 seems from Peter. So here it seems that we have a 133 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:35,400 comment that Peter has directly added in. 134 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,800 It was a whiter than Any Earthly bleacher could make them because 135 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,700 Peter was there. He was one of the three 136 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:43,200 Apostles, that's at the top of the mountain with Jesus. 137 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:46,800 So what's going on here? Jesus Transfiguration, why does 138 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,600 he suddenly become dazzlingly white? 139 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,500 What's going on? The gospel was don't give us a 140 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:54,800 full explanation but we can possibly summarize it as 141 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,500 something like this. The true glorified form of Jesus 142 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:02,300 is shining through Jesus. True form is being revealed and 143 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:06,100 it's the form. That will be fully revealed at 144 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:08,600 the second coming when all people will see it. 145 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,400 So Jesus here is shining with his own Divine. 146 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,600 Glory typically you would associate this kind of blinding 147 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,700 whiteness with, with God, or, with the angels, but here Jesus 148 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:21,400 shines with it his shining with his own Divine Glory. 149 00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:24,900 So, presumably Jesus, is showing his innermost Apostles. 150 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,900 His true. Identity has deliberately 151 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:29,800 allowing them a glimpse at what he is. 152 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,100 Really like, he feels that they're ready to see this. 153 00:08:33,100 --> 00:08:35,400 In a sense, he could also say, the Transfiguration is a 154 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,100 foreshadowing of resurrected Humanity in the new heavens and 155 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:42,100 the new Earth, the righteous will have similar bodies to 156 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:43,700 Jesus. And he said that in Daniel 157 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:47,100 chapter 12, it talks about how the righteous will shine and 158 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:51,500 then wisdom 3:7 and also in Matthew 13 verse 43. 159 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:55,700 All of these have these descriptions of the righteous at 160 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:59,800 the judgment to going to shine. And then in verse 4, Mark says 161 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,700 Elijah appeared to them with Moses so out. 162 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,900 Of nowhere, Elijah and Moses show up, Elijah and Moses were 163 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:10,300 considered to be the two most important figures in the Old 164 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:12,900 Testament. And then in the development of 165 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:17,300 the judaic religion, because Moses represented the law and 166 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:20,600 Elijah represented the prophets. And together, the two of them 167 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,900 represent the entire Old Testament. 168 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Sir, presumably be appearance. Here is supposed to indicate to 169 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,500 the apostles that are watching that Jesus truly has Divine 170 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:34,100 approval. So not only is Jesus shining 171 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:36,600 with his glory. It's like God has also allowed 172 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,500 Moses and Elijah to show up as another indicator that Jesus 173 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:43,200 really does have Divine approval. 174 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,200 If Moses and Elijah are there, it must mean that God, approves 175 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,500 of it and that's certainly the way the apostles would have 176 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,900 perceived it now. Try and put yourself in the 177 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:53,500 Apostle shoes here. These are faithful Jews, they 178 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:56,200 don't fully understand. Jesus identity yet, all of a 179 00:09:56,208 --> 00:09:59,100 sudden he shines with this Divine glory and then Moses and 180 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:02,700 Elijah show up who are the greatest most revered people in 181 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:07,900 Judaism Now interestingly, both Moses the lawgiver and Elijah, 182 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:10,600 the prophet, they're both well, known miracle workers. 183 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,000 And notice the similarities Here with Jesus there, miracle 184 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,700 workers who fasted for 40 days. Both of them did both Moses and 185 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,300 Elijah were rejected by some of God's people. 186 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:24,700 Both of them encountered, God's glory, on Sinai. 187 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,900 And then both Figures were associated with the Jewish 188 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:31,600 eschatological hope for both Moses and Elijah. 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,200 There's verses in the Old Testament, which talked about 190 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,500 how they're going to return in a sense before the coming of the 191 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:42,200 new age, the Messianic age. So they'll both expected to show 192 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,300 up in some form. And here, they both are another 193 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:48,100 similarity here. And this is really interesting 194 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:50,800 is that Moses? And Elijah apparently both had 195 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,400 their bodies taken up to heaven. It's explicitly says that about 196 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Elijah in one Kings and then there's there was a Jewish 197 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,900 Tradition at the time and the Book of Jude appears to mention 198 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:02,300 this as well, that Moses is body. 199 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:05,900 Also, apparently went up to heaven after his death, so that 200 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:09,800 would explain how both Moses and Elijah can appear in bodily form 201 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:15,000 here, because presumably in the Old Testament, when righteous 202 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,400 people died, their bodies. Generally didn't go to heaven, 203 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,400 but Moses and Elijah are exceptions. 204 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:23,600 So that explains how they can appear here in their bodies and 205 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,800 they were talking with Jesus, Now here we don't know exactly 206 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,900 what they were talking about. But later, if you read the New 207 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:32,600 Testament later on, we learn a little more about what they were 208 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,100 saying to Jesus. And the language the New 209 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:38,300 Testament uses is, they were talking about the Exodus that 210 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:41,300 Jesus was to accomplish. So it's basically they're 211 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:43,500 talking about his coming death and Resurrection. 212 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,800 He'll be fascinating to know what they actually said to Jesus 213 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,600 here. Can you imagine this 214 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,900 conversation between Jesus? Moses and Elijah verse 5. 215 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:56,800 Then Peter spoke to Jesus Rabbi, or you can translate that Master 216 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,600 which is it's a title of respect, which means my great 217 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,500 one. So he's overwhelmed here. 218 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:04,800 Peter is overwhelmed and he says it is wonderful for us to be 219 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,600 here. Now, Peter is probably been 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,400 quite genuine. He's genuinely excited by what 221 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,600 he's saying, this will be a truly amazing event for him and 222 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,100 for the other apostles, He probably thinks the kingdom of 223 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:18,900 God Has Come Moses and Elijah have shown up which they 224 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:21,800 expected to happen at the beginning of the kingdom of God. 225 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,100 And Jesus has his shining with God's glory. 226 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,300 He probably thinks this is it. So he says, this is his 227 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:31,500 suggestion, he says to Jesus. Let us make three tents. 228 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,100 Or you can translate that booths one for you, one for Moses, and 229 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:39,700 one for Elijah. So Peter probably thinks they're 230 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:43,400 going to stay for a while or possibly, he wants them to stay 231 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,700 for a while, he's trying to get them. 232 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:46,800 Stay. He wants to prolong the Heavenly 233 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,000 experience that he's witnessing. So what's going on with these 234 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,300 booths here? I want to read out this quote 235 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:55,200 from the Catholic commentary on sacred scripture and this is for 236 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,700 the Book of Matthew, but it certainly applies to Mark's 237 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:01,700 version as well. So here's what it says when 238 00:13:01,700 --> 00:13:05,000 Peter suggests to build three booths, he likely has in mind, 239 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,700 the tents used for the Feast of Tabernacles, the Autumn Harvest 240 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:12,500 Festival in which the Israelites dwelt in makeshift tents, for 241 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:16,100 seven days commemorating, how God Has presence dwelt in the 242 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:19,900 tent of meeting and how the Israelites themselves dwelt in 243 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:22,600 tents as they Journey Through the Wilderness on the way, to 244 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,100 the promised land. The Greek word here. 245 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:29,400 Translated tense is used in the Septuagint for the tents made 246 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,200 for this Feast significantly. The feast also pointed to a 247 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,000 future fulfillment. Anticipating the time when the 248 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,900 nations would come to Jerusalem to Worship the Lord, as King in 249 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:43,700 an eschatological Feast of Tabernacles in Zechariah, 14, 250 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:47,000 and Hosea. When Peter Witnesses, Jesus 251 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,000 transfigured in glory, he may consider the eschatological era 252 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,000 to be daunting, and thus seeks to enter into this experience in 253 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,900 a way reminiscent of the Feast of Tabernacles. 254 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,700 So, that's a really nice quote. I think so, Peter has all these 255 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:04,800 things going on in his head. He's looking at Jesus being 256 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,900 transfigured. He's seeing Moses, and Elijah, 257 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,700 and he's associating. Those things with the coming of 258 00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:13,500 the Messianic age, and another thing that's associated with the 259 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:17,600 coming of the Age is sort of a renewed Feast of Tabernacle so 260 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,400 he's putting all those things together and maybe that's why he 261 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,300 wants to build them booths. What Peter doesn't grasp is that 262 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:27,200 Jesus glory is not going to remain with them permanently. 263 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,600 He is hoping that it will. But what Jesus has been trying 264 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,700 to tell the apostles is that Jesus has to go to the cross in 265 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:36,200 order for the fullness of his glory to be revealed. 266 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:39,000 Peter doesn't get that yet, and he won't really understand that 267 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,900 until Jesus is resurrected verse 6. 268 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:47,600 He did not know what to say. They were so frightened or more. 269 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Literally, they're exceedingly afraid. 270 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,300 So, Peter and the apostles are Afraid about what's going on and 271 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:57,000 this makes sense. Because if you think about what 272 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,500 happens whenever someone encounters an angel in the 273 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:03,700 Bible, the first thing, the angel has to say to them is do 274 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:06,400 not be afraid. So, whenever God's glory shows 275 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,800 up in this form, people are afraid it's frightening. 276 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:12,500 Now, Peter suggests that he build tents for them, but he 277 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:15,600 doesn't get an answer to his proposal because the, very next 278 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,300 thing that happens is a cloud. Comes over them straight away. 279 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:23,800 As Peter is speaking, so verse 7, Cloud came, and Matthews 280 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,400 version specifies, that this is a bright cloud and it covered 281 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,300 them in Shadow or more literally at overshadowed them. 282 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:34,000 So this language of the cloud overshadowing them, it calls to 283 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,500 mind how in the Old Testament, the cloud covered and protected 284 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:40,300 the Israelites in the wilderness remember how the cloud followed 285 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:43,000 them and led the way for them in the wilderness? 286 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,500 In the book of Exodus, the cloud represented, the very presence 287 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:50,900 of God, God was considered to dwell in the cloud later. 288 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:53,800 In the Old Testament, the cloud represented God's presence in 289 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,600 the temple. And there's some scenes where 290 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,800 they physically see God's God's presence in the temple in the 291 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,500 form of a cloud. It was believed that God's 292 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:04,700 presence left during the time of Ezekiel. 293 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:08,600 There's a scene where the cloud leaves the temple, but the Jews 294 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,000 did believe that one day. God's glory would return When 295 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,900 the kingdom of God arrived in its fullness. 296 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,000 So the fact that the cloud shows up here hovering over Jesus now 297 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,400 indicates that Jesus is the new Dwelling Place of God. 298 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:23,300 This is the moment they've been waiting for God's. 299 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:26,200 Glory has returned in the person of Jesus. 300 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,700 Now some Scholars think that here maybe the cloud also 301 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:32,500 represents the holy spirit. So that would mean, the Trinity 302 00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:35,500 is present here, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and that 303 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:38,900 would certainly be a good parallel with the baptism event 304 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:42,500 where the three persons of the Trinity will also present and 305 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:43,900 then a voice came from the cloud. 306 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,300 Out. This is my son the Beloved or 307 00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:49,700 you can translate that this is my beloved Son. 308 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,600 Again, this is exactly what the father said that Jesus baptism, 309 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,500 but in the baptism. It seems that only Jesus heard 310 00:16:57,500 --> 00:17:00,900 the voice but here it's directed at the apostles, the father 311 00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:03,800 speaks to the apostles and says, this is my beloved Son. 312 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:08,000 He wants the father wants the apostles to be very clear on 313 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,099 Jesus identity. This is my son and then God 314 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:14,599 says, listen to him. So, I think the best way to 315 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:16,599 interpret this whole event. What's the point of the 316 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:20,099 Transfiguration? It's a solution to the disciples 317 00:17:20,099 --> 00:17:21,900 doubting Jesus and his authority. 318 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:24,099 Remember, what's happened? Just prior to this event. 319 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:26,500 Jesus has been telling them. He's going to suffer and they 320 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:28,400 seem to be struggling with this teaching. 321 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:32,600 God wants the leaders of the disciples, Peter James, and John 322 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,200 to have confidence in Jesus. And he wants those Apostles to 323 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,400 teach the other Apostles to have confidence. 324 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,300 So God allows the Transfiguration to happen in 325 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:44,900 order to convince the apostles, the Jesus really is the Son of 326 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:48,200 God and therefore they should be serious about him and pay 327 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,900 attention to him. That's going to include taking 328 00:17:50,900 --> 00:17:53,100 seriously. What Jesus has just said about 329 00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:55,700 suffering. So maybe God's trying to teach 330 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:58,500 the apostles that, if they listen to him and they follow 331 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:02,000 him to the Cross, their Destiny will be joined to his and they 332 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,100 too will experience a Divine Glory. 333 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:08,700 So God, he says, listen to him and this might recall the 334 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:14,000 prophecy in Deuteronomy 18 verse 15 where God says that one day. 335 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,600 He'll raise up a prophet like Moses who the people will listen 336 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,100 to and certainly that is fulfilled in Jesus. 337 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,400 Now at this point Matthews version of the Transfiguration 338 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,500 tells us that the apostles fell on their face in fear and Jesus 339 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:29,800 Comforts them. But marks version just go 340 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,600 straight into verse 8. Then suddenly when they looked 341 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,900 around they saw no one with them anymore. 342 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:37,600 But only Oh Jesus. So Moses and Elijah have 343 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,300 vanished. Jesus is not shining anymore. 344 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:42,300 The vision is over. It's accomplished. 345 00:18:42,300 --> 00:18:46,100 Its purpose. Verse 9 as they came down from 346 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:48,800 the mountain, he warned them not to tell anyone what they had 347 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,400 seen. So it would be too much for the 348 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,800 other Apostles and the other disciples to handle. 349 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,700 If the, if these three Apostles came down from the mountain and 350 00:18:57,700 --> 00:19:00,600 said, guess what? We just saw they wouldn't be 351 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,400 able to put it into words and probably the people that were 352 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,800 talking to, you wouldn't be able to believe and receive it or 353 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,700 possibly maybe the issue would be that if they did tell people 354 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:13,000 what they'd seen, the apostles and the disciples would believe 355 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,500 it too much, and they will try to take him as king because 356 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:19,200 there was beliefs at the time that the Messiah was going to be 357 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,200 a great revolutionary. Peking and all might get out of 358 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,500 hand. So here as Jesus does in other 359 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:27,100 places he says don't tell anyone what you have seen. 360 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:30,700 This is a privileged encounter but he adds in this qualifier 361 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:34,300 don't tell anyone what you have seen until after the son of man 362 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:38,000 has risen from the dead. Now, Jesus is already predicted 363 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,300 once that he's going to die and Rise Again in chapter 8 but the 364 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:45,300 apostles still don't understand what Jesus means by this. 365 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,800 So he says it again until after the son of man has risen from 366 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,500 the dead. Now the Jews Jesus time did 367 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:53,100 believe in a general Resurrection. 368 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:56,000 They believe that people would rise again, but they believe 369 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,700 that is all going to happen at once at the final judgment. 370 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:02,600 They did not believe that there would be any individual 371 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,700 resurrections before then even if the Messiah, that was not on 372 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:09,000 their radar at all. So, every time before Jesus 373 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 death, every time Jesus says, I'm going to die and rise again, 374 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,100 they just cannot fathom. It, it doesn't make sense to 375 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:17,300 them. Why does Jesus say don't talk 376 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:20,200 about it until after the son of man has risen from the dead? 377 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,500 Presumably because people are more likely to believe the story 378 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:27,800 of the Transfiguration after the resurrection and maybe they'll 379 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,100 understand the Transfiguration better in light of the 380 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:36,000 Resurrection, verse 10, Mark tells us the apostles, observe 381 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,400 the warning Faithfully or more. Literally they kept the matter 382 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,900 to them ourselves. So unlike some other people in 383 00:20:41,908 --> 00:20:44,900 the gospels, when Jesus says, don't tell anyone and they run 384 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:48,400 around and tell everyone here the apostles they do they listen 385 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,400 to Jesus and they keep it to themselves. 386 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:53,700 But Mark tells us there are among themselves. 387 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:57,100 They discussed what rising from the dead could mean. 388 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,700 So again they struggling with this concept that Jesus is going 389 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:04,500 to rise again. Sorry, I want to finish with 390 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:07,200 this, quote here again, from the Catholic commentary on sacred 391 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,500 scripture. I think it does a really 392 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:13,100 excellent job summarizing all of the theological threads that 393 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:16,100 come together in the Transfiguration, what these 394 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:19,300 three disciples saw and heard on the mountain would have reminded 395 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:21,700 them of what happened to Moses at Mount Sinai. 396 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,700 In Exodus 24, Moses LED three of his Close Associates up Mount 397 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:29,300 Sinai. That Was Then covered by God's 398 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:31,900 glory in the form of a cloud for Six Days. 399 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,700 On the With day, the Divine voice called out from the cloud 400 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:39,100 and spoke to Moses. Moreover, during Israel. 401 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:41,900 Stay at Sinai. Moses would enter the cloud. 402 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:45,800 Atop The Mountain to talk to God and when he left his face would 403 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,000 shine reflecting God's glory and leaving the people in awe. 404 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:54,800 Similarly, Jesus singles out, three of his Apostles and leads 405 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,200 them up a high mountain. That is overshadowed by The 406 00:21:57,208 --> 00:22:00,900 Cloud of God's glory. As its Sinai, a Heavenly voice 407 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,100 calls out from the cloud on the seventh day. 408 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,600 Day as Moses face Shawn. So Jesus face shines brightly as 409 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,600 the people at Sinai were left in awe. 410 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:14,200 So the apostles at the end of the scene, a lying prostrate 411 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:18,000 greatly afraid, the disciples soon will see their master 412 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,800 betrayed arrested condemned and crucified here. 413 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,700 Jesus gives three of them an opportunity to see his glory in 414 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:29,400 order to prepare them for this supreme trial of their fate. 415 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:34,500 The scene reveals to them and to the readers that the Son of God 416 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:37,400 on the mountain of transfiguration is the same son 417 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,600 of man who will suffer and be killed on a hill in Jerusalem. 418 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:45,300 So the really awesome amazing parallels here between the 419 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:48,000 Transfiguration and the events of the book of Exodus. 420 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:50,000 And it's probably not a coincidence. 421 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,200 Now, to understand this next thing that the disciples talked 422 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,200 about as they come down the mountain, we need to talk a bit 423 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,100 about Elijah and the prophecies about Elijah in the Old 424 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,300 Testament. So a larger shows up fairly 425 00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:06,800 early in the Old Testament, but even after he's gone, there's 426 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,600 prophecies later in the Old Testament, which predict that 427 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,700 Elijah is going to return. So there are some specific 428 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:16,900 prophecies for example, Malachi chapter 3, and in some Bibles 429 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:21,600 that's chapter 4 and also see Rock 48:19. 430 00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:23,700 L've. So particularly according to the 431 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:28,100 prophet Malachi, the arrival of the day of the Lord, is going to 432 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:32,300 be signaled by the reappearance of Elijah and Malachi says 433 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:34,900 Elijah. When he returns will turn the 434 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:38,200 hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the 435 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,300 children to their fathers. So, there's this idea that when 436 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:46,700 Elijah returns is going to restore relationships in a way 437 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:48,600 by dealing, with sin and bringing Peace. 438 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,200 So, the disciple was a now on their way back down the 439 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,900 mountain. Currently quite a big mountain 440 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:54,700 because it takes him a while to get back down. 441 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,500 And they've just seen Elijah appear to them on the mountain 442 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,800 and then disappear. Now, they know the Old Testament 443 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,800 prophecies, this say Elijah is going to return, and they've 444 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,100 just seen a larger return apparently, but then he went 445 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:09,300 away again. So the disciples are confused 446 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:14,100 basically about the role of Elijah Verse 11 and they put 447 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:17,300 this question to Jesus. Why did the scribes say that 448 00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:21,500 Elijah has to come first? Now, most likely the disciples 449 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,100 at least most of them couldn't read. 450 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,100 So they will get their information about the Old 451 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:28,500 Testament from the scribes. The scribes job in that culture 452 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,500 was to communicate the Old Testament to the Jewish people. 453 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,700 So when they say what are the scribes say that Elijah has to 454 00:24:34,708 --> 00:24:37,200 come first while because the scribes were in charge of 455 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,900 communicating the Old Testament to the people and the disciples 456 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:43,200 here is struggling to understand this Teaching. 457 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,300 Because the coming to realize that Jesus is the Messiah. 458 00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:48,700 Who's going to bring in the Kingdom. 459 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,100 So they realize the kingdom of God is coming soon. 460 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,700 And I'm just seeing a larger come, but then he's disappeared 461 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,300 again. So they're really quite confused 462 00:24:55,300 --> 00:24:57,700 about how to understand these Old Testament. 463 00:24:57,700 --> 00:24:59,800 References about Elijah's return. 464 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,700 So Jesus is now going to clear it up for them. 465 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:06,900 And this is interesting because Jesus doesn't always tell us how 466 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:09,100 to interpret specific Old Testament texts. 467 00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:14,800 But here he does verse 12 true. He said, Elijah is to come first 468 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,500 and to see that everything is as it should be. 469 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,200 Another translation. There would be a larger does 470 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,500 come first to restore all things. 471 00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:26,400 So Jesus, confirms that the Old Testament prophecies are right 472 00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:29,600 and the scribes have correctly, communicated them Elijah will 473 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,900 return and he says in these prophecies, he says Elijah will 474 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:38,900 restore family relationships and he's going to restore the 12 475 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:41,400 tribes of Israel as well. That's mentioned in the sirach 476 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,200 passage about Elijah And we know how he does that. 477 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,300 He turns people away from sin. That's how a large is going to 478 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,100 bring Peace by turning people away from sin. 479 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600 So Jesus confirms. Yes, that's true. 480 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,300 Elijah will return and then he inserts. 481 00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:58,200 This interesting phrase about himself. 482 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,900 He says yet, how is it that the scriptures say about the son of 483 00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:05,600 man that he is to suffer grievously and be treated with 484 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,700 contempt? So Jesus at this point is saying 485 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:10,300 something like this to the disciples. 486 00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:12,500 He is, as he often does, he's directing them to a deeper. 487 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,700 The principal there forgotten. He says, yes, there are 488 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:18,300 questions about the Old Testament, prophecies about 489 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:22,500 Elijah but of more importance. Are the difficult passages in 490 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:25,700 the Old Testament about how the Messiah will suffer. 491 00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:28,400 And it seems that he's particularly thinking about the 492 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600 suffering servant, passages in Isaiah. 493 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,400 And he's telling the disciples, those ones about the Messiah in 494 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,300 the Old Testament. Those are the ones you should be 495 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:39,600 thinking about. So, once again, Jesus Takes the 496 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,500 opportunity to tell his disciples that he's going to 497 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:44,600 suffer. He's been telling them several 498 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,000 times in this whole section Matthews version of this line. 499 00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:53,800 Jesus says the son of man will suffer similarly at their hands. 500 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,400 So at this point Jesus is comparing himself to as well. 501 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,300 See John the Baptist. He's trying to get the disciples 502 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,600 to realize just as John the Baptist suffered. 503 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,200 I the Messiah, the one that John the Baptist Was preparing for 504 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,500 Will similarly suffer. And in fact be killed, if you 505 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,600 think about it, because they know that by this point, John 506 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,100 the Baptist is killed. So Jesus is once again, hinting 507 00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,900 that he's going to be have a similar fate, he's going to die 508 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,400 verse 13. Jesus says, however, now that's 509 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,000 always a significant word in Jesus teaching because he's 510 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,600 about to say something, which corrects a misunderstanding that 511 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:34,000 his disciples have I tell you that Elijah has come So here 512 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,300 Jesus says, these prophecies about Elijah's return have come 513 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,700 there have been fulfilled in the person of John the Baptist Jesus 514 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,900 here teachers think about it. What's Jesus teaching? 515 00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:47,200 His teaching that John the Baptist is the Fulfillment of 516 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,600 the Elijah passages. We know when we look at the 517 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,700 earlier passages about John the Baptist in his ministry, John 518 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:57,200 the Baptist had the spirit and mantle of Elijah, he's clearly 519 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,200 playing the role of Elijah, and he has Elijah spirit and 520 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Ministry his bringing to completion. 521 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,300 The prophetic. Mandate that Elijah had, and 522 00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:09,000 Jesus Takes it a step further and says, actually, he was the 523 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,800 Elijah person that we've been looking for. 524 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:16,800 Jesus goes on and they have treated him as they pleased. 525 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,800 So this is a reference to the fact that the Jewish leaders had 526 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,100 John, the Baptist executed, the scribes were correct in their 527 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,800 reading, the Old Testament. They, when they said Elijah will 528 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000 return their correct about that. But because of their 529 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,300 preconceptions and pride the Jewish leaders, Including King 530 00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:36,500 Herod and also the Pharisees and the scribes. 531 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:40,400 They did not recognize that the Elijah prophecies were being 532 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,600 fulfilled. In John the Baptist Jean. 533 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,700 If they had a thought about it carefully, what's John? 534 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:46,600 The Baptist doing. He's coming to bring people to 535 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,700 repentance. He wants to bring peace. 536 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,100 He wants to turn the fathers to their children and children to 537 00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,200 their fathers. Just as the prophecy said that 538 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,200 Elijah would do, but they didn't recognize it. 539 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,800 In fact they killed him. Jesus says, and they have 540 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,600 treated him as they pleased just as the scriptures say about him. 541 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,000 So Jesus says there's some passages in the Old Testament 542 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,200 which talked about John. The Baptist's are in 543 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,000 persecution, so he's probably thinking of scripture passages 544 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,200 which speak about Elijah being persecuted in 1 Kings, chapter 545 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,800 19, Elijah's suffered at the hands of King Ahab and his wife 546 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,900 Jezebel, he was quite mistreated by them. 547 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,800 Well like Elijah John, the Baptist was a great prophet. 548 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,400 Cold the people to repentance and he was persecuted by a 549 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,700 wicked woman and a cowardly King so that's really interesting, 550 00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:38,000 isn't it? And we see John the Baptist fate 551 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,800 in Mark chapter 6. So when we think about what 552 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,900 Jesus is teaching here, it's actually quite important in 553 00:29:43,908 --> 00:29:47,700 terms of Bible interpretation. One of the problems the Jews had 554 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:50,800 at the time of Jesus is that they expected all of the Old 555 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,500 Testament, prophecies to be fulfilled in the most literal 556 00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:57,500 physical way possible. That was generally the way they 557 00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:01,500 thought Often. These prophecies were actually 558 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:05,100 fulfilled in a more profound and spiritual way, but the Jewish 559 00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,900 leaders weren't always open to that. 560 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:09,800 So, the Jews thought, similarly, about the Messiah. 561 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,700 They expected the Messiah to literally be a political ruler 562 00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,400 who would set up an actual Kingdom from Jerusalem. 563 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,400 And they also thought similarly about the kingdom of God, they 564 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,500 thought it would come in instantaneously, it would wipe 565 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,300 out all the enemies and there are some passages in the Old 566 00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:25,600 Testament, which interpreted literally would lead to that. 567 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,900 So they weren't open to these more profound. 568 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:33,300 Found theological fulfillments. This is an important lesson for 569 00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:35,200 us today. I think prophecies are not 570 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,000 always fulfilled in the way that we visually. 571 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Imagine they will be. So when we read the Old 572 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,600 Testament, we often get pictures in our mind of what we think 573 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,400 that's going to look like when it's fulfilled. 574 00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:48,000 We need to be careful because in Jesus time, they actually 575 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 thought a larger himself would return. 576 00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:52,800 They weren't really open to this idea that someone else would 577 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,000 play the role of Elijah. But Jesus says, that's exactly 578 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000 what happened in accordance with God's plan. 579 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,900 So, in the next section of Mark chapter 9 Jesus and the 580 00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,000 disciples are going to keep coming down the mountain and 581 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,400 they're going to be met by a demon-possessed boy. 582 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,900 So we'll look at that in the next few passages. 583 00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:12,900 So let's now turn to the catechism to see what a 584 00:31:12,908 --> 00:31:16,800 teacher's about this passage. How can this passage from Mark 585 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:21,600 inform us on Catholic teaching so paragraph. 552 of the 586 00:31:21,608 --> 00:31:24,600 catechism is about the keys of the kingdom, and there's a 587 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,500 specific reference to Peter here. 588 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,700 Remember, Peter is one of the only Apostles. 589 00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:31,100 It's allowed to come up the mountain. 590 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,800 So Simon Peter holds the first place in the College of the 12. 591 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,800 Jesus entrusted, a unique mission to him. 592 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,600 And then the paragraph goes on from there paragraph 151. 593 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,800 This is a really interesting one. 594 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,200 This is in the section about what it means to believe. 595 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,500 In Jesus, for a Christian believing in God cannot be 596 00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:55,700 separated from believing in the one he sent his beloved Son in 597 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,500 whom the father is, well pleased, God tells us to listen 598 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:01,900 to him. The Lord himself said to his 599 00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:04,600 disciples believe in God believe. 600 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,300 Also in me, we can believe in Jesus Christ because he is him. 601 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,800 Himself God, the word made flesh. 602 00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:15,400 No one has ever seen God. The only son who is in the bosom 603 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,600 of the father. He has made him known because he 604 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,000 has seen the father. Jesus Christ, is the only one 605 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,500 who knows him and can reveal him. 606 00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:29,900 Paragraph, 4, 59. This is in the section about why 607 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:33,800 did the word become flesh? The word became flesh to be our 608 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,600 model of Holiness. Take my yoke upon you and learn 609 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,100 from me. I am the way the truth and the 610 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,400 life. No one comes to the father, but 611 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,100 by me on the mountain of the Transfiguration, the father 612 00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:50,900 commands, listen to him. So, here we have an interesting 613 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:54,200 explanation or various explanations of why the word 614 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,800 became flesh and there's more than one reason. 615 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,000 And then in this section, the catechism, says, one of the 616 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,500 reasons is so that he could be a model of Holiness. 617 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,000 And it links it here to the passage in the Transfiguration 618 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,600 where the father says, listen to him. 619 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:14,700 And paragraph. 649 this is about the resurrection and here at 620 00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:18,400 links to the entire chapter of Mark chapter 9. 621 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,400 It says, As for the sun, he affects his own Resurrection by 622 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,000 virtue of his divine power. Jesus announces that the son of 623 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000 man will have much to suffer die. 624 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,600 And then rise elsewhere. He affirms explicitly. 625 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:37,700 I lay down my life. That I may take it again. 626 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000 I have power to lay it down and I have power to take it up 627 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,000 again. And the paragraph goes on from 628 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,900 there. I hope you learned something new 629 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:50,000 in today's episode, the Transfiguration is really quite 630 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,400 fascinating. And in a lot of ways, you can't 631 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,700 really exhausted. It's well worth studying. 632 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,600 If you've learnt something new, you think others would benefit 633 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,000 from hearing this, please share this podcast with them and will 634 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,900 continue tomorrow.