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Hi everyone. 
Welcome back again to the Daily 

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gospel exegesis podcast. 
We're all about helping you 

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understand? 
The literal sense of scripture. 

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So, what we do here every day in
this podcast, is take a really 

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deep. 
Look at the scripture from 

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today's mass. 
So, particularly looking at the 

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Gospel reading from today's 
mass, we're going through verse 

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by verse This to help you 
understand what the text 

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probably meant in its original 
context. 

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So we're looking at the literal 
sense of the text which as 

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Catholics, that's where we need 
to start. 

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So if you go to mass today, you 
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verses 13 to 16. 
So, here's the text. 

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Jesus said to his disciples alas
for you to raisin a less for you

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bethsaida. 
For if the Miracles done in you 

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had been done in Tyre and sidon 
they would have repented long 

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ago sitting in sack cloth and 
Ashes and still it would not go 

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as hard with tyre and sidon at 
the Judgment as with you. 

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And as for you Capernaum, did 
you want to be exalted high as 

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Heaven? 
You shall be thrown down to 

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Hell. 
Anyone who listens to you 

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listens to me, anyone who 
rejects, you rejects me. 

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And those who reject me. 
Reject the one who sent me So 

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that's our text today. 
Here we have some of Jesus, 

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strongest words, in all of the 
gospels. 

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What's the context when you 
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When you're doing an exegesis, 
if you want to find out the 

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literal sense of the text, 
you've always got to think about

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what's happened, just prior to 
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So Jesus has just started moving
towards Jerusalem and we're 

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actually getting pretty close to
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He's already done a whole lot of
ministry in Galilee and now he's

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beginning, what some Scholars, 
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perea. 
Now Jesus has just commissioned 

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his 72 disciples to go out on 
mission to the surrounding towns

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and to preach the message of the
Kingdom, you probably heard the 

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start of that yesterday. 
So what we have today is the end

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of that speech. 
He's speaking to the 72 

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disciples, giving them some 
instructions before they go out 

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on their mission. 
Jesus here is going to start by 

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pronouncing woes on towns who so
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message. 
So he's going to mention three 

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towns that he's already been to 
in Galilee that have not 

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accepted the gospel message and 
he's going to pronounce warriors

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on them. 
So, keep in mind as we go here 

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because you'll probably be quite
surprised by Jesus strong 

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language here. 
These towns of all her Jesus 

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teaching, they've all seen Jesus
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They've all seen Miracles with 
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Those Miracles were pretty clear
and obvious, so it should have 

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been that. 
Those challenge who saw the 

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Miracles should have repented 
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That was what the Miracles 
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But on the whole these towns 
that Jesus mentions have chosen.

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Not to repent. 
They might have been fascinated 

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by Jesus miracles but it hasn't 
actually brought about genuine 

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repentance. 
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decisions to come to God in his 
kingdom. 

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Now, Matthews version of this 
text actually makes this quite 

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clear. 
So Matthew, introduces Jesus 

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words here, in Matthew chapter 
11, verse 20, he is what Matthew

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says, Jesus began to reproach 
the towns in which most of his 

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miracles had been worked because
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So, that's the key thing here. 
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That's why Jesus is condemning 
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We should keep this in mind. 
If we see Miracles, if we see 

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genuine activity of God in our 
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It's supposed to lead to 
repentance, not just Fascination

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but repentance, that's the goal 
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In the world, verse 13. 
Jesus says, alas for you or more

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literally woe to you. 
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way of saying something like 
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It's a phrase that's used a lot 
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particularly when the prophets 
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Lord's judgment on Sinners, who 
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So if you look at Isaiah five, 
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Chapter 2 as well. 
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language of War, oh, they 
pronounce woes on towns and 

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people who refuse to repent. 
So Jesus, you says, alas for 

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yuca raisin alas, for you 
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So, these are two towns qurayza,
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raisin and bethsaida. 
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North of the Sea of Galilee, 
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In fact, he spent a considerable
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They're probably in the first 
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Years of his ministry. 
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preaching, and doing Miracles, 
now corizon is only mentioned in

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this passage in the entire New 
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And the parallel passage in 
Matthew, is the only time this 

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town is mentioned. 
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it. 
Obviously, it's been visited by 

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Jesus at some point during his 
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And it appears that we have 
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There's ruins of a town near 
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discovered, a couple of miles 
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Scholars have identified, this 
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that Jesus has been to bethsaida
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If you go to chapter 9, just one
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bethsaida. 
So, these are towns that Jesus 

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has already been to. 
He says, alas for yuca raisin, 

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alas, for you bethsaida, for, if
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been done in Tyre and sidon, 
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Gentile towns, just north of 
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Phoenicia. 
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of days Away From Galilee by 
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of Jesus avoided tyre, and sidon
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and the Gentiles, particularly 
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be corrupt and far from God. 
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them. 
And in addition in the Old 

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Testament tyre and sidon a 
specifically mentioned, as God's

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enemies, Is that are going to be
judged in Isaiah 23 and Jeremiah

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25. 
So Jesus he says, alas for you, 

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corrosion are less for you 
bethsaida for if the Miracles 

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done in you had been done in 
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repented long ago sitting in 
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Now, most of you would know 
sackcloth and Ashes is kind of a

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traditional Old Testament, way 
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public repentance. 
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That was the way that they 
repented, they had this 

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Collection of wearing sackcloth 
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So Jesus, he says that even 
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sidon generally, don't follow 
God on the whole because they're

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Gentile. 
Jesus says that even they would 

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have repented if they had seen 
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in chorazin and bethsaida. 
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these Gentile towns are far 
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bethsaida think about how 
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for his mostly Jewish audience. 
He's here, correct. 

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Qurayza, number Seda are worse 
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Now, there's probably exceptions
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In terms of in the town, we 
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single person in chorazin and 
bethsaida doesn't follow Jesus 

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or didn't repent, those probably
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But on the whole, the town's 
people in these towns, refuse to

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commit themselves to the kingdom
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And in fact, it does look like 
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and sidon were open to Jesus. 
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it mentions people who are 
coming to Jesus from these 

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towns. 
But most likely, if we're 

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looking at the literal sense 
here, when Jesus, he is says, if

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the Miracles done in you had 
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they would have repented, he's 
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Jesus might not be literally 
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how tyre and sidon would have 
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I mean, maybe he is saying that 
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knowledge and he can see her 
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responded, but he could just be 
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exaggerating. 
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how Wicked the Galilean towns 
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It's a way of exaggerating to 
make a point, but Jesus is now 

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going to intensify it further 
verse 14 and still, it will not 

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go as hard. 
That's probably not a great 

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translation, a better way of 
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This would be, it will be more 
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the A judgment than with you. 
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Jesus here, thinking of the 
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Jesus says, it will be more 
tolerable on Judgment Day for 

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tyre and sidon than 42 raisin 
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So at the end of time, all 
people will be judged for how 

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they ought to have responded to 
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That's Catholic teaching. 
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the towns of Tyre and sidon will
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to raisin and Because tyre and 
sidon were much more open to God

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and were more likely to repent 
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This is a pretty incredible 
statement and it shows how 

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important the kingdom of God is 
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The whole Old Testament, was 
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the kingdom of God, and the 
Messiah, and the Jews, including

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those in Galilee, were 
accountable to know that it was 

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coming. 
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know what it should look like. 
So if they reject it, when it 

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does come via Jesus, And the 
apostles preaching, then really.

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It's their own fault. 
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That's what Jesus says here. 
There's no excuse for the towns 

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of Galilee their dues. 
They knew that the kingdom of 

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God was coming. 
So if they're rejected when it 

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comes, it's their own fault. 
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necessarily teaching that every 
single town will be judged on 

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Judgement Day. 
He might just be using this as 

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like a visual image to 
illustrate the kind of thing 

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that will go on on Judgement Day
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Now mentions the third town As 
for you Capernaum now, Capernaum

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is a very famous town. 
This is the town on the Northern

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side of the Sea of Galilee, 
that's where Jesus lived, and 

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spent most of his own time. 
Now, you're not remember, 

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there's a scene earlier in the 
Gospel of Luke, when Jesus was 

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in Capernaum, and Capernaum, was
genuinely amazed at Jesus and 

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they saw some Miracles and they 
tried to prevent him from 

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leaving though, with that 
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That's in Luke chapter 4. 
So on the whole, you might get 

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the impression that Capernaum 
had a positive response to Jesus

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but he Here, Jesus tells us that
actually, although, there were 

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fascinated by Jesus, they didn't
repent. 

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And that's the problem. 
So Jesus you says, as for you 

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Capernaum. 
Did you want to be exalted high 

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as heaven now more, literally, a
better translation would be, 

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will you be exalted to heaven? 
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Here is saying something like, 
Capernaum, do you think God will

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honor you? 
He grows on, you shall be thrown

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down to Hell and the Greek word 
there is Hades. 

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So it looks like Jesus is 
probably not referring to the 

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place of final. 
Punishment. 

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But rather to the general 
Dwelling Place of the Dead Hades

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or she ol, he says, Capernaum, 
you shall be thrown down tissue 

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roll. 
Now this is actually a direct 

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quote from Isaiah chapter, 14 
verses 13 to 15 and their it's 

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used in reference to Babylon. 
It says Babylon. 

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You shall be brought down to 
Hades. 

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And here, he says to Capernaum, 
you shall be brought down to 

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Hades. 
So, Jesus, here is Kaepernick as

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comparing Capernaum to Babylon. 
One of the most wicked cities in

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the entire Old Testament. 
That's a pretty be strong 

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comparison. 
And in that Isaiah passage about

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Babylon, the idea there is that 
Babylon is very prideful, but 

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they will be humbled by God. 
So when Isaiah says, Babylon 

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will be brought down to Hades. 
It seems to be an image of being

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humbled, and that's probably the
way that we should take this 

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passage here. 
Jesus did doesn't use the word 

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gehenna here, which is his 
preferred word for Eternal 

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punishment. 
So he's not necessarily saying 

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the Capernaum will receive 
Eternal punishment, but they 

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will have a harsh judgement on 
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They will be humbled by Odd for 
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He's certainly teaching that. 
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something like this Capernaum. 
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with your works and give you 
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You will not be glorified at all
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kingdom. 
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using a bit of her purple here. 
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this. 
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teach the specifics of how the 
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judgement day is exactly going 
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general comparison between 
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They both saw God's works. 
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and they both didn't now in 
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Same passage Jesus goes on to 
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He says, Capernaum is like Sodom
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town that was destroyed by God. 
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The towns of Galilee for their 
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choose who should have been 
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The Messiah came. 
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He spent time amongst them. 
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We're still not willing to 
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This teaches us that religious 
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the Bible does. 
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pleased with us. 
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fascination with God is Not 
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We have to repent. 
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because we have even more 
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people in Jesus time did. 
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they are in a sense and we 
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little bit. 
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you listens to me or another 
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you hears me? 
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speaking to his inner disciples,
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Anyone who listens to you 
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It's actually just his inner 
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interesting passage of 
fascinating one, but we need to 

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get it, right. 
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listens to you listens to me, 
he's saying but the Your 

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disciples have received a unique
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the kingdom in his name. 
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by Jesus to be his official 
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basically considered to be equal
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time period to act on his 
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they're in effect. 
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treat the 72 will be Be a 
reflection on the way they feel 

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about Jesus. 
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listens to you listens to me, 
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he gives them their effectively,
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mission, that is about to send 
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flip side, anyone who rejects, 
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So on the other hand, any 
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does not listen to. 
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considered to have rejected 
Jesus and that matches with some

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things he said earlier, that's 
her closely United, the Whose 

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mission is to Jesus mission. 
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they're preaching, they're 
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Jesus says anyone who rejects, 
you rejects me, and those who 

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reject me, reject, the one who 
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they're also rejecting the 
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if you read the Gospel of John, 
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the representative of the 
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reject the father as well. 
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that in Jesus time, anyone in 
his time, who heard the message 

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from Jesus, or from the 72 
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accept it, they were accountable
for it because they should have 

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resect accepted it. 
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accept it, they were considered 
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and they were there for Under 
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That's what this text is telling
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And this verse is actually 
really important in Catholic 

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teaching. 
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out to think about how the 
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today represent Jesus as well. 
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that the capacity that will 
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Remember the Twelve Apostles, 
officially delegated to be Jesus

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Representatives. 
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Well, the Catholic teaching, is 
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Authority was passed on from the
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the Bishops. 
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Bishops in the Catholic church 
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apostolic succession they have 
the authority in certain 

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circumstances to speak for 
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count come in to Catholic 
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circumstances the Catholic 
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behalf of Jesus. 
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Now at this point, the 72 
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on their missions. 
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get to hear the results of their
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They come back and tell Jesus, 
how the mission won't let us now

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turn to the catechism. 
There's two paragraphs. 

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Really interesting ones. 
Which reference what we've heard

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today. 
Paragraph 87, which is about how

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the heritage of the faith is 
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church's says, mindful of 
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he who hears you, he is me the 
faithful receive with docility, 

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the teachings and directives 
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different forms. 
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is that? 
Because of what Jesus says here 

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to the disciples, he who hears 
you hears me? 

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And in a sense, the Bishops and 
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Church continue that same 
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When we get directives from our 
Bishops and our priests, the 

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faithful should receive these 
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it's an extension of Jesus own 
words, so that's an interesting 

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link there. 
And then the same passage gets 

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referenced here in paragraph 8. 
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Jesus is the Father's the 
father's Emissary, from the 

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beginning of his ministry, he 
called to him, Those whom he 

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desired and he appointed twelve 
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with him and to be sent out to 
preach. 

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From then on, they would also be
his emissaries, Greek. 

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Apostille oi in them, Christ, 
continues, his own mission. 

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As the father has sent me even. 
So I send you, the apostles 

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Ministry is the continuation of 
his mission. 

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Jesus said to the twelve, he who
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So hopefully today's exegesis 
has helped you understand the 

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passage a bit better. 
We'll continue to look through 

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Luke chapter 10, in the coming 
days.

