1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,200 Hi everyone. Welcome back to the logical. 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,800 Bible study podcast, we're continuing to look at the 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,300 post-resurrection appearances of Jesus. 4 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:21,500 As we have been in the last few days. 5 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:25,500 And as always we want to take a look at the text from today and 6 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:29,300 then we'll dive into looking at an exegesis of the literal sense 7 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:33,500 of that text. Today's passage is from Luke 8 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:39,200 chapter 24 verses 13 to 35. It's a bit of a longer one. 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,100 This is the road to Emmaus story. 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,400 Two of the Disciples of Jesus were on their way to a village 11 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,800 called Emmaus. Seven miles from Jerusalem, and 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,200 they were talking together about all that it happened. 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,500 Now, as they talked this over, Jesus himself came up and walked 14 00:00:57,500 --> 00:01:01,100 by their side, but something prevented them from recognizing 15 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:04,400 him. He said to them, what matters 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,500 are you discussing as you walk along, they stopped short their 17 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:12,900 faces downcast. Then one of them called cleopas 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,200 answered him. You must be the only person 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,900 staying in Jerusalem who does not know the things that have 20 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:21,200 been happening there. These last few days. 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,800 What things he asked all about, Jesus of Nazareth they answered 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,800 who proved he was a great prophet by the things he said 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,800 and did in the sight of God and of the whole people and how our 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,100 chief priests and our leaders handed him over to be sentenced 25 00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:41,700 to death, and had him crucified. Our own hope had been that he 26 00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:43,400 would be the one to set Israel. Free. 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,900 And this is not all two whole days have gone by, since it all 28 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:52,600 happened and some women from our group have astounded, Us. 29 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:56,300 They went to the Tomb in the early morning and when they did 30 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:59,700 not find the body, they came back to tell us that they had 31 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:03,000 seen a vision of angels who declared that he was alive. 32 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:07,000 Some of our friends went to the tomb and found everything 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,100 exactly as the women had reported, but of him, they saw 34 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,700 nothing. Then he said to them. 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,400 You foolish, man. So slow to believe the full 36 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,000 message of the prophets. Was it not ordained that the 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,900 Christ should suffer and so enter into his glory. 38 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,300 Then starting with Moses and going through all the prophets, 39 00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:32,800 he explained to them the passages through the scriptures 40 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,200 that were about himself. When they drew near to the 41 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,400 Village to which they were going he made as if to go on, but they 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,300 pressed him to stay with them. It is nearly evening they said 43 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:49,500 and the day is almost over so he went in to stay with them. 44 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:54,100 Now while he was with them at table, he took the bread and 45 00:02:54,100 --> 00:02:57,100 said the blessing. Then he broke it and handed it 46 00:02:57,100 --> 00:03:01,400 to them. And their eyes were opened and 47 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,600 they recognized him, but he had vanished from their sight, then 48 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,200 they said to each other, did not our hearts burn within us as he 49 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,000 talked to us on the road and explained the scriptures to us. 50 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:17,600 They set out that instant and returned to Jerusalem. 51 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,900 There they found the eleven assembled together with their 52 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:24,700 companions who said to them. Yes, it is true. 53 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,400 The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon. 54 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Then they told their story of what had happened on the road, 55 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:34,400 and how they had recognized him at the breaking of the bread. 56 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,200 So many of you will be familiar with the road to Emmaus story. 57 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:43,400 It's often used as part of our catechesis and religious 58 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,000 education as a model of what we're trying to do. 59 00:03:46,300 --> 00:03:49,600 When we teach people, the scriptures is, we want to unlike 60 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,800 help them open their eyes to see things that hadn't seen before. 61 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,100 So what's the context here? It's Easter Sunday. 62 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:59,400 It's the day of Jesus. Resurrection already in the 63 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,400 morning on this day. The women have seen the vision 64 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,800 of Angels at the tomb and they've run back to tell the 65 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,300 apostles and the The disciples who were in Jerusalem, we know 66 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:12,500 from early wrong that most of the disciples do not believe 67 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:15,500 them though. Peter and the Beloved disciple 68 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:17,600 was they do? They go and check it out for 69 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,600 themselves but most of the disciples don't believe that 70 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,100 Jesus is resurrected. So now it's probably early 71 00:04:24,100 --> 00:04:28,300 afternoon on Easter Sunday at this point and we see two of the 72 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:31,200 Disciples of Jesus. Now, these are not part of the 73 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,000 eleven Apostles, but the disciple. 74 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,900 So the broader group of his followers He's so these two 75 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:41,900 people two disciples they were in the room when the women came 76 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:44,700 in and claim that the tomb was empty and but they did not 77 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:47,100 believe the women either. So they're on the way to a 78 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:50,800 village called Emmaus. And our translation says that is 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,900 seven miles from Jerusalem. Now there's some debate about 80 00:04:56,900 --> 00:05:00,400 how far away it is because some translations have this as what 81 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,200 this basically 18 miles some manuscripts have it is 18 miles, 82 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,100 some have it as seven miles. We know from one Maccabees 83 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,800 according to one Maccabees, there is a village called Emmaus 84 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,600 which is 18 miles from Jerusalem. 85 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,400 So probably the right translation is 18 miles and that 86 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,400 means today the village we've identified it with today is It's 87 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,400 called nicopolis so you can go in a couple us today and see 88 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,500 what we think are the ruins of Emmaus. 89 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:32,400 So it's 18 miles to the northwest of West of Jerusalem. 90 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,300 This is probably their Hometown. The disciples are probably 91 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:39,500 walking, they're going home from Jerusalem, if it's 18 miles. 92 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:42,300 Then this is certainly a few hours worth of walking to get 93 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:44,400 there. So they're on the road they're 94 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,500 talking together about all that happened. 95 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:51,600 And we later get a summary of what all those things are as 96 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,900 they talk this over. So they're on the The road from 97 00:05:53,900 --> 00:05:57,600 Jerusalem to Emmaus, Jesus himself came up and walked by 98 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,100 their side. So he sort of appears out of 99 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:03,800 nowhere but it's like he kind of he doesn't just miraculously 100 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,800 appear. I guess he sort of walks up 101 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,800 behind them here, but something prevented them from recognizing 102 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,900 him or more literally. The text says Their Eyes Were 103 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:17,900 kept from recognizing him. So either he's appearing in a 104 00:06:17,907 --> 00:06:20,500 different form. Jesus looks different and that's 105 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:23,200 why they don't recognize him or maybe there's some sort. 106 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:26,500 Supernatural, blondness and the text seems to hint that that 107 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:29,900 might be the case that God has supernaturally, blinded the two 108 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:34,200 disciples so that they don't recognize Jesus and God has done 109 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,000 that. So that later on in the story 110 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:41,000 there's a certain moment when God can lift can lift the blind, 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,700 a set of specific moment. He wants to reveal himself, 112 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:46,200 Jesus does in the breaking of the bread. 113 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:52,100 A bit later on verse 17, Jesus asks the disciples, what matters 114 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:54,300 are you discussing? As he walked along. 115 00:06:54,700 --> 00:06:58,500 Now Jesus already knows the answer to this but as he often 116 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:02,000 does, he wants to start the conversation and he wants it to 117 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,800 lead to a teaching opportunity. They stopped short of their 118 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,600 faces downcast. So the disciples are genuinely 119 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,400 sad and confused about what's going on in their lives. 120 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,000 At the moment Verse 18, one of them named cleopas. 121 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:20,100 Now, not sure exactly who this clearpass is. 122 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:23,400 Some have suggested there's a woman according to John Chapter 123 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,000 19 Verse 25. One of the women at the foot of 124 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,400 the cross is called Mary, the wife of clopas. 125 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:36,400 So, if this clopas is the same as this clearpass, then that 126 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,500 Mary, and this clearpass are married, but it's not entirely 127 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:42,400 clear. Whether clopas in clearpass, 128 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,800 here are the same person. The other disciple isn't named. 129 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,400 So we just have the name of one of them. 130 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:53,000 So Cleopatra says to Jesus, you must be the only person staying 131 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,400 in Jerusalem, who does not know the things that have been 132 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,400 happening there. These last few days. 133 00:07:58,900 --> 00:08:01,400 So lots of people were staying in Jerusalem for the Passover 134 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,400 and apparently by now, everyone has heard what's been going on 135 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:10,200 with Jesus verse 19. Jesus says what things and some 136 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,100 here, detect that, maybe Jesus has a bit of a sense of humor 137 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,400 because, of course, he knows what's going on. 138 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,800 But he says to them, what things so clear paths now goes on to 139 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,200 summarize, all of Jesus life and everything that's been happening 140 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,800 in the last few days and here's what he says all about. 141 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Jesus of Earth who proved he was a great prophet by the things he 142 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,200 said and did in the sight of God and of the whole people and how 143 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,799 our chief priests and our leaders handed him over to be 144 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,799 sentenced to death, and had him crucified. 145 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:43,600 Our own hope had been that he would be the one to set Israel. 146 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,500 Free. And this is not all two whole 147 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:49,600 days have gone by, since it all happened, and some women from 148 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,000 our group of astounded us, they went to the Tomb in the early 149 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,200 morning, and when they did not find the body, they came back to 150 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,900 tell us, they had seen a vision of angels who declared and he 151 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:01,400 was alive. Some of our friends went to the 152 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,600 tomb and found everything exactly as the women have 153 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,900 reported, but of him, they saw nothing. 154 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:08,700 So that's the summary. They give Jesus. 155 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:13,500 One particular thing to notice in this summary is when they say 156 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:16,800 our own hope had been that he would be the one to set Israel 157 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,500 free. So that the disciples are 158 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:25,000 suspecting that Jesus is the Messiah, but in their view, as 159 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:27,700 did many Jews of the time, they believed the Messiah would be a 160 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:30,300 political leader, who would overthrow the Romans. 161 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:33,000 So when they say we thought he would be the one who had set 162 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,900 Israel free there. Thinking that Messiah would be a 163 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:38,000 political ruler. Who would free the Land of 164 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,700 Israel? Now the fact that they recognize 165 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:45,400 that Jesus is the Messiah is the key to understanding what Jesus 166 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,900 says next. And by the way that's the reason 167 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:50,600 why they're sad is because they had thought that Jesus was going 168 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,300 to gloriously save Israel from the Romans and because he didn't 169 00:09:54,300 --> 00:09:57,600 do that, he got killed instead which they didn't expect, that's 170 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,200 why they're so downcast. Verse 25, Jesus says to them, 171 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,100 you foolish Min now that might seem to be quite harsh words but 172 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:09,200 they're mostly words of disappointment as well. 173 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,500 See he's disappointed that they didn't understand how the 174 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:16,600 Messiah was going in suffer so he says to them, you are so slow 175 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,000 to believe the full message of the prophets, was it not 176 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,700 ordained that the Christ should suffer and so enter into his 177 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:26,700 glory. Notice Jesus says, you don't 178 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:29,300 believe the full message of the Prophet so they know some of the 179 00:10:29,308 --> 00:10:32,000 prophets but they You can understand the for message. 180 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:34,900 So Jesus says to them and this is important. 181 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:38,700 He says that if they really knew their Old Testament particularly 182 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:42,300 the prophets, they would know that the Christ or the Messiah 183 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:45,900 was required to suffer in order to become glorified. 184 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,000 This still applies to Jews today. 185 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,300 I Think Jesus would say the same to Jewish people today who don't 186 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:54,500 believe Jesus is the Messiah. He would say, if you knew your 187 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:57,000 Old Testament, you would know that the Messiah is going to 188 00:10:57,008 --> 00:11:01,900 suffer verse 27. In Luke says, then starting with 189 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:05,200 Moses and going through all the prophets, he explained to them 190 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,600 the passages throughout the scriptures that were about 191 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,500 himself. So Jesus on this long road to 192 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:13,400 Emmaus, this probably takes a couple of hours. 193 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,800 He goes through the entire Old Testament, explaining all of the 194 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,900 passages which discuss the Christ. 195 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,600 The goal, he Jesus is telling them this because he wants these 196 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,400 two men. The two disciples to see that. 197 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,600 Actually it makes sense that the Messiah has to suffer That's 198 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,600 what he wants them to see. Is that really the Old 199 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Testament? Says the Messiah is going to 200 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,600 suffer now that's one. Bible study. 201 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,000 That I would love to be a part of, it's a Bible study that 202 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,100 Jesus gives them. Jesus not only identifies the 203 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:46,500 key Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah but apparently 204 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:49,100 he also explains them to the two people here. 205 00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:52,900 So unfortunately we don't have this sermon of Jesus recorded. 206 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:58,800 We don't know what passages he talks about here but probably a 207 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,800 lot of the same passages that the apostles use later in the 208 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,500 book of Acts to prove that Jesus is the Messiah. 209 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:07,700 There's some from Genesis, some from Psalm, some from Isaiah. 210 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:10,900 So this is a long Bible study, probably would have taken a 211 00:12:10,908 --> 00:12:12,900 couple of hours until they reach Emmaus. 212 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,600 Now keep in mind the two disciples this whole time. 213 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,400 They don't recognize that it's Jesus. 214 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,700 There's just this guy giving them, this amazing Bible study, 215 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:25,000 verse 28. When they drew near to the 216 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Village to which they were going he made as if to go on. 217 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,600 So Jesus indicates that he's going to keep walking verse 29 218 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,500 but they pressed him to stay with them. 219 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,800 So the disciples. The two men have probably 220 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,300 probably become quite enlightened by this man from his 221 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:44,300 knowledge of the scriptures and they want to stay with him. 222 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,600 In fact, the Greek here suggests that they strongly insisted that 223 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,700 he stay. They say it is nearly evening 224 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:55,500 and the day is almost over. So Only it's about 5 p.m. or 6 225 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:59,700 p.m. now. So he went in to stay with them. 226 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:04,000 So Jesus agrees to stay with the two men probably at their home 227 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,600 in Emmaus. Verse 30 now while he was with 228 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,400 them at table. So they're having dinner, he 229 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,300 took the bread and said the blessing. 230 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:16,400 Then he broke it and handed it to them. 231 00:13:17,300 --> 00:13:19,400 Now, this process was fairly normal. 232 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,800 Bread was a normal part of the meal for Jews and it's customary 233 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,000 for someone, although usually it was the host. 234 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:27,900 Jesus makes himself the host here. 235 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,000 Usually, that person would bless and break the bread. 236 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:34,200 There's nothing particularly unusual about that except verse 237 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,300 31. Their eyes were opened And now, 238 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:39,100 that's a reversal of what happened earlier. 239 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:41,700 Remember, their eyes were prevented from recognizing Jesus 240 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:43,900 earlier, but now their eyes are opened. 241 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:49,000 So they do recognize Jesus. Apparently there's something 242 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,300 special about the way, he breaks the bread or that he hands out 243 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:54,700 the bread because as soon as he does it, they immediately 244 00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:58,600 recognized him. Probably what's going on here. 245 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,500 It's not 100% clear but probably Jesus does this in such a way 246 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,500 that it's recalling the Eucharist. 247 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:07,100 It makes them think about the Eucharist that he instituted 248 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:10,800 three nights earlier and holy Thursday and there's also 249 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,500 strong. Echo is here from the language 250 00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:18,500 of the feeding of the 5000. If you go to Luke 9, Yeah, the 251 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:21,000 feeding of the 5,000 users, very similar language about 252 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,700 Distributing the bread, but he had vanished from their sight. 253 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:27,400 So as soon as they recognized him, Jesus miraculously 254 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,900 disappears one moment. His there. 255 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:33,400 The next moment, he's not there, and we see that with a lot of 256 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,900 Jesus post-resurrection, appearances, you just seems to 257 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,500 appear and disappear at will. That's something his new 258 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:42,700 resurrected body gives him the ability to do. 259 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Verse 32, the two disciples say to each other. 260 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:52,100 Did not our hearts burn within us as he talked to us on the 261 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:54,100 road and explained the scriptures to us. 262 00:14:55,100 --> 00:14:57,700 So while he'd been explaining the scriptures, they had felt 263 00:14:57,700 --> 00:14:59,700 that there was something special about this man. 264 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:03,500 Maybe when they say God their hearts were burning, maybe that 265 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:05,300 was God's grace. Prompting them. 266 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:09,100 But they couldn't quite put their finger on what was going 267 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:12,800 on but now they work it out, that was Jesus the whole time. 268 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,600 So verse 33, they set out that instant and returned to 269 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Jerusalem. Now it's quite dark at this 270 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,900 point. We know it's evening if they 271 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:26,000 leave a mayor said, around 6:30 p.m. and if it's 18 miles, it's 272 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,500 a few our journey. So they might not get into 273 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:32,900 Jerusalem until 9:30 p.m. 10 p.m. something like that. 274 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:37,400 So they get there late at night. And they find the 11 assembled 275 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,100 together. So they go to Jerusalem and 276 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:43,600 they're in a room somewhere in Jerusalem, it says 11. 277 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,400 But in fact, there's only ten Apostles here. 278 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,000 So, because Thomas is not here. As we discover later, the 11 is 279 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,900 just a general word, that's used to describe the group of the 280 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:56,000 Apostles. So the 10 Apostles are in here 281 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,300 plus some other companions, or other translations, have it as 282 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:03,100 those who are with them. So there's other disciples in 283 00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:07,400 the room with the apostles. Verse 34. 284 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:10,900 They say yes it is true. The Lord has risen and appeared 285 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:14,500 to Simon. Now we have to be careful here 286 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:18,700 with this verse because if we just read Luke's account, it 287 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:21,800 would make it seem like as soon as clear paths and the other 288 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,300 disciple, get back from Emmaus. That all the apostles, believe 289 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:29,700 them because the verse just says, yes, it is true. 290 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:32,000 The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon. 291 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:37,900 But if we compare this with Mark chapter 16 in verse 12, to 13 of 292 00:16:37,900 --> 00:16:41,000 that chapter, we learned that the apostles don't actually 293 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 believe the account of the Is disciples. 294 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:46,300 So they don't believe clear pass. 295 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:51,200 They don't think is Resurrected. And how can we reconcile these 296 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,900 accounts? And this is why studying the 297 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:55,300 text of scripture is really important because sometimes 298 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:57,300 you'll hear the claim that there's contradictions in the 299 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:00,600 resurrection account. The answer is, if you look at 300 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,099 the blue text, really clearly it says, assemble together with 301 00:17:04,099 --> 00:17:07,200 their companions who said, yes, it is true. 302 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,200 The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon. 303 00:17:10,099 --> 00:17:13,400 So In this passage here from Luke, it says that the other 304 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,300 disciples those who are also in the room were the ones who did 305 00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:19,900 believe their story. These are Ones who are saying, 306 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,000 yes, it is true, the Lord has risen. 307 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,300 It's not the apostles themselves. 308 00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:27,599 So there's this sort of out a group in this room in Jerusalem 309 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:29,000 as well. And the outer group probably 310 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,100 includes people like the women, the women who have already seen 311 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:35,100 the Risen Jesus. So they're quite happy to accept 312 00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:38,600 the story of the amazed disciples, but the apostles 313 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,100 themselves, do not yet believe. Let's keep that in mind. 314 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:45,100 It's only later that night. When Jesus appears to them in 315 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:47,400 the room that they actually do believe. 316 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:52,700 So this appearance where the Jesus appears to Simon is not 317 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:55,800 narrated in any of the gospels, but it's the fourth appearance 318 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,400 of Jesus. So the third appearance would be 319 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:04,800 the one we're looking at here, which is the on the road to 320 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,300 Emmaus. That's the third appearance and 321 00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:11,500 then the fourth appearance is this 1 to 2 Peter and we get a 322 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:15,300 little more information about it from Paul in 1 Corinthians 15 323 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:19,400 verse 5 he mentions this appearance Why does Jesus 324 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,900 appeared to Peter first and not the whole Apostles? 325 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:26,600 Probably because Peter is the leader and he wants Peter to 326 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,300 take up the leadership and to tell the other disciples that 327 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:33,500 it's real, that Jesus has really resurrected and that fulfills 328 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:36,500 Jesus command that he gave earlier and Luke chapter 22. 329 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:39,600 Remember when he said to Peter, when you return, you must 330 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,400 strengthen the others after turning back. 331 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:44,900 And that's what Peter does here. He sees the Lord. 332 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,600 He runs back to the other Apostles and says it's real. 333 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:50,900 And so, At the time, these two disciples get back from Emmaus. 334 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:56,300 The apostles believe it's real. Verse 35, the disciples told 335 00:18:56,300 --> 00:18:59,400 their story of what had happened on the road and how they had 336 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,800 recognized, Jesus at the breaking of the bread. 337 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,700 So they tell the eleven what they experienced and notice they 338 00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:08,900 say clearly we recognize Jesus at the breaking of the bread. 339 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 So, some have thought that the reason they wrecked the two 340 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,100 disciples recognize Jesus in the breaking of the bread is because 341 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,400 maybe he still has his holes in his hands. 342 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,100 And they see the holes when he lifts it up. 343 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:24,600 I think that's pretty unlikely. I think the text would tell us 344 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,900 if that was the case, it's much more likely that what they 345 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:32,400 recognize the reason they recognize Jesus is because they 346 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,900 sense that he's doing a Eucharistic celebration with 347 00:19:34,900 --> 00:19:38,000 them and we'll talk more about this in tomorrow's episode. 348 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,900 Because tomorrow's episode, we pick up Up at this very same 349 00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:48,200 verse for a, in tomorrow is our Gospel reading it. 350 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,400 Start at verse 35. So, we'll look then at what it 351 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,000 means to say that they recognize Jesus at the breaking of the 352 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,800 bread. So, let's take a look at some 353 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,200 catechism references. How does the Catholic Church 354 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,700 understand this passage? How does it inform their 355 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:06,600 teaching? Well, there's a whole heap of 356 00:20:06,608 --> 00:20:10,300 there's about 25 different, catechism references to this, 357 00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:14,000 passage from Luke chapter 24 and a lot of them are very similar 358 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,800 to other ones. We've looked at in recent days 359 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,700 about the meaning of Jesus. Resurrection. 360 00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:20,700 So we just want to look at some of the ones that are really 361 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:22,400 striking in terms of the language. 362 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,400 They use ones that really clearly refer to what goes on. 363 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:32,300 In this passage so paragraph. 1094 it says on this, the 364 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:36,200 harmony of the two Testaments rests, that the Paschal 365 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,700 catechesis of the Lord is built and then that of the Apostles 366 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:43,600 and the fathers of the church, this catechesis unveils what lay 367 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,800 hidden under the letter of the Old Testament. 368 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:49,800 The mystery of Christ it is called typological because it 369 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,400 reveals the newness of Christ on the basis of the figures or 370 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,500 types, which announced him in the Deeds were Words and symbols 371 00:20:57,500 --> 00:21:01,000 of the first Covenant by this rereading in the spirit of 372 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,500 Truth, starting from Christ, the figures are unveiled. 373 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:08,200 So here the Catholic Church teaches that in order to 374 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,400 understand the Old Testament, we need to see it in the Light of 375 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,200 Christ and that's exactly what Jesus says In this passage on 376 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,300 the road to Emmaus. He explains to them how the Old 377 00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:21,800 Testament, All Points towards Christ paragraph. 1347 is a 378 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,400 discussion about how the mass has changed or rather hasn't 379 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,100 changed throughout the ages. It says, is this not the same 380 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:32,000 movement as the Paschal meal of the Risen Jesus with his 381 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,200 disciples walking with them. He explained the scriptures, 382 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,100 Them sitting with them at table, he took bread blessed it and 383 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:43,400 broke it, and gave it to them. So essentially that church 384 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,300 teachers here that on the road, to Emmaus Jesus, first explained 385 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:48,600 the scriptures through them. And then he did a Eucharistic 386 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,700 meal with them, which is the same format of the mass we have 387 00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:53,600 today. It's the format that Jesus gave 388 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,500 us paragraph. There's some other references in 389 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:00,300 here to the Eucharist as well, because of the breaking of the 390 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:01,500 bread. And I'll include that in the 391 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:05,400 show notes and about Jesus glorified body, and then we get 392 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,400 to paragraph, 6, 43, which is about the appearances of Jesus, 393 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,900 and there's quite a clear reference here to Luke chapter 394 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,800 24. It says, given all these 395 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,300 testimonies Christ's Resurrection cannot be 396 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:21,000 interpreted as something outside the physical order and it is 397 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,700 impossible not to acknowledge it as a historical fact. 398 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,700 Is clear from the facts that the disciples Faith was drastically. 399 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:32,400 Put to the test by their masters passion and Death on the cross, 400 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,400 which he had foretold the shock provoked by the passion. 401 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,800 Was so great that at least some of the disciples did not at 402 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,300 once. Believed in the news of the 403 00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:45,300 Resurrection for far from showing us a community seized by 404 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:48,600 a mystical exaltation, the gospels present us with 405 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:54,100 disciples demoralized looking sad and frightened for they had 406 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:57,100 not believe the A women returning from the tomb and had 407 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:59,300 regarded their words as an idle tale. 408 00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:03,800 When Jesus reveals himself to the 11 on Easter evening, he 409 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,600 upbraided them for their unbelief and Hardness of Heart 410 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,900 because they had not believed those who saw him after he had 411 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:12,400 risen. So, that's a summary of 412 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,800 everything that takes place here on Easter Sunday. 413 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,400 And notice, I think this is really striking paragraph. 414 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,700 What the Catholic Church teaches there, right of the star that 415 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:23,400 paragraph, it says it is impossible. 416 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,000 Not to acknowledge the resurrection as Historical fact, 417 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,300 we don't talk about that enough. That is the church's teaching. 418 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,200 Paragraph, 43, 9 talks about the role of Messiah, and common 419 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,300 views about the Messiah at the time of Jesus. 420 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,600 Paragraph 601, says, signing a confession of faith that he 421 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,600 himself received st. Paul professes. 422 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,700 That Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures 423 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:50,600 in particular. Jesus. 424 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Redemptive death fulfills Isaiah's prophecy of the 425 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,100 suffering servant. Indeed Jesus himself explained 426 00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,800 the meaning of his life and death in the light of God's 427 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,600 suffering servant. after his resurrection, he gave this 428 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,700 interpretation of the scriptures to the disciples at Emmaus and 429 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:14,000 then to the apostles Paragraph 572 is in the section about 430 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800 Jesus Christ, suffered under Pontius Pilate, so it's a 431 00:24:16,808 --> 00:24:19,900 commentary on the Creed. And it says, this the church 432 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:22,900 remains faithful to the interpretation of all the 433 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:25,200 scriptures that Jesus gave both before. 434 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,500 And after his Passover was it not necessary that the Christ 435 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:31,900 should suffer these things and enter into his glory. 436 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:37,000 So there you hear that quote from Luke chapter 24, And then 437 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,700 the last one we look at today is paragraph 6 41, which is in the 438 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:43,500 section again about the appearances. 439 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:47,100 After Jesus resurrection it says, thus the women were the 440 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:49,900 first messengers of Christ's Resurrection for the apostles 441 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:53,500 themselves. They were the next to whom Jesus 442 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:59,800 appears first Peter, then the 12 Peter had been called to 443 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,500 strengthen the faith of his brothers. 444 00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:05,500 And so the sees the Risen one before them it is on the basis 445 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,900 of his testimony. The community exclaims, the Lord 446 00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:11,600 has risen indeed and has appeared to Simon. 447 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,500 So remember here in Luke chapter 24 that we hear about this 448 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,500 appearance of Jesus to Peter, and that's what gets in a rated 449 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:22,600 in paragraph 6 for one of the catechism. 450 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,800 So all of these post-resurrection appearances, 451 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,500 greatly inform the Catholic faith. 452 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:30,300 And there's so many catechism references because we need to 453 00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:33,200 understand what the resurrection means. 454 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,300 And so, the catechism spends a lot of time. 455 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,300 I'm trying help Catholics understand what the significance 456 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:42,800 of it is and the things that Jesus says like on the road to 457 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,100 Emmaus. 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