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Hey everyone. 
Welcome back to the Daily gospel

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exegesis podcast. 
We're all about helping. 

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You understand the Gospel 
reading from today's mass. 

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So we're really doing a deep 
dive into the text. 

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What did it mean in its original
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How can we understand the words 
that are used? 

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What's Jesus up to In this 
passage? 

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So really doing a proper verse 
by verse and What's this of the 

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text? 
And at today's mass, you'll hear

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this passage from Luke chapter 
9, verses 51 to 62. 

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As the time Drew near for him to
be taken up to heaven, Jesus 

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resolutely took the road for 
Jerusalem and sent Messengers 

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ahead of him. 
These set out and they went into

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a Samaritan Village to make 
preparations for him. 

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But the people would not receive
him because he was making for 

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Jerusalem. 
Seeing this, the disciples 

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James. 
And John said, Lord do you want 

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us to call down fire from heaven
to burn them up? 

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But he turned and rebuked them 
and they went off to another 

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Village. 
As Jesus and his disciples 

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traveled along. 
They met a man on the road who 

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said to him I will follow you 
wherever you go. 

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Jesus answered. 
Foxes have holes and the birds 

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of the air have nests but the 
son of man has nowhere to lay 

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his head. 
Another to whom he said, follow 

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me replied, let me go and bury 
my father first but he answered 

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leave the dead to bury their 
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Your duty is to go and spread 
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Another said, I will follow you 
sir. 

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But first, let me go and say 
goodbye to my people at home. 

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Jesus said to him once the hand 
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No one who looks back is fit for
the kingdom of God. 

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So that's a short passage today.
Bit of an interesting one. 

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Let's start by thinking about 
the context, so Jesus has been 

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doing ministry in Galilee and 
he's been teaching his disciples

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about important matters. 
A whole series of different 

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things before setting out for 
Jerusalem and now we get to a 

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very significant verse in Luke's
gospel, which marks quite a big 

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transition. 
So, verse 51 as the time Drew 

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near for him to be taken up to 
heaven. 

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Now, what it actually says The 
the word Heaven is not in the 

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original. 
All it says is when the days 

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Drew near for him to be received
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Now, we probably think of the 
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in Jesus ascending to heaven. 
And that's certainly in view, 

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but it seems that the way Luke 
uses this term to be received 

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up, would include Jesus, 
passion, death, resurrection and

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Ascension. 
So Jesus knows that his time for

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all those things to happen is 
coming soon. 

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It's Drawing Near. 
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purpose of his life is to die 
and then rise again. 

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And Jesus knowing the future 
knows that that is coming up. 

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Maybe the term taken up here is 
supposed to make readers think 

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of how Elijah and Moses were 
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Because Jesus, if you think 
about it, he's just seen Moses 

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and Elijah at the 
Transfiguration and Luke's 

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readers certainly would have 
been familiar with Moses and 

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Elijah stories about how they 
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their life. 
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deliberately making a parallel 
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Jesus. 
That's certainly possible. 

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Luke says Jesus resolutely took 
the road for Jerusalem or what 

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it actually says there literally
is. 

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He set his face to go to 
Jerusalem. 

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So Luke tells us that from this 
point on, Jesus is determined to

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go to Jerusalem. 
This is his goal for the next 

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section of his ministry. 
Now, there is a lot that still 

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happens. 
We're only in Luke chapter 9, 

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and it's not till about Luke 
chapter 19 or 20 that he gets to

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Jerusalem. 
So there's a lot that happens 

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before then. 
But Luke tells us, this is the 

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Which basically, Jesus Galilean 
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now turning his attention to 
Jerusalem. 

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That's his next goal. 
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deliberately describing Jesus 
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This way to highlight certain 
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So, what it says here in the 
Greek is he set his face to go 

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to Jerusalem? 
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about Ezekiel and Jeremiah on 
their mission to preach against 

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Jerusalem. 
So in Jeremiah 21 verse 10 and 

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then Ezekiel one verse to both 
of them when they're talking 

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about the mission that Jeremiah 
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God uses this phrase, set your 
face towards Jerusalem, so it's 

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interesting. 
Jesus is doing the same thing 

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here and interestingly both of 
them predict Jerusalem's 

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destruction Ezekiel. 
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Jerusalem, they condemn 
Jerusalem and they predict that 

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it's going to be destroyed. 
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Jesus does when he finally gets 
to Jerusalem as well. 

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There's another explanation 
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supposed to recall the third 
Servant Song of Isaiah. 

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So, in Isaiah chapter 50 verse 
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It says, and this is Isaiah 
speaking. 

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I have set my face, like a flint
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to shame. 
So, maybe one of those passages 

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from the great prophets, is what
Luke has in mind here when he's 

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drawing a parallel with Jesus, 
Now, this begins What's called 

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the travel narrative and Luke. 
So this next part of Luke's 

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gospel is collectively called 
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sometimes called the ministry to
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And that actually takes up about
40% of Luke's gospel. 

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So here, in Luke 9:51, we're 
starting a new big section of 

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Luke that takes up 40% of Luke's
gospel, and it will take us 

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quite a few weeks to get through
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Basically, for the next 10 
chapters Jesus is going to be on

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the way to Jerusalem. 
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the next ten, chapters is on the
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So he's traveling if you look at
a map he's traveling from 

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Galilee in the north to Judea in
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And there's a region between 
Galilee and Judea and that 

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region is called Samaria where 
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not actually a Jewish territory 
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The Samaritans are not really 
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The Samaritans did not like the 
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the Samaritans, interestingly 
there's a Lot of material in 

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these next. 
Ten chapters that are unique to 

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look. 
Matthew and Mark, only have 

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about one chapter on this entire
period of heading towards 

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Jerusalem, but Luke has 10 
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So we're going to see a lot of 
interesting stuff here in the 

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coming chapters that you won't 
hear in any of the other 

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gospels. 
So, Luke tells us in verse 52, 

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he sent Messengers ahead of him.
So it looks like, what's going 

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on here that? 
Well, there's two possible 

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explanations. 
Jesus knows what direction he's 

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going. 
He knows what towns he wants to 

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go into. 
And it looks like he wants 

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certain towns. 
Particularly non-jewish ones to 

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hear the gospel at least once 
before he arrives. 

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And remember, he's already done 
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He's already sent the disciples 
out on Mission and now it's kind

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of a similar thing again. 
He's sending Messengers ahead of

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him to these towns maybe so that
these challenges are more 

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prepared to receive it when he 
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And that makes sense. 
Because these Samaritan towns, 

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particularly probably don't know
a lot about the kingdom of God 

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because they don't have the same
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Ooh, so they probably need more 
information before Jesus 

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arrived. 
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compassion, is planning to send 
some messages there to the 

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Samaritan town so that they're 
more prepared when he, when he 

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himself arrives. 
So, in a sense, he of these 

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Messengers, probably some of the
Twelve Apostles, they're 

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continuing the message of John 
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If you look at 7:27 of Luke, you
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being sent before Jesus face to 
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This message. 
So that's what these Messengers 

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are doing. 
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gone now, more literally, it 
actually says here, he sent 

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Messengers before his face. 
So again, this language of face 

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is being echoed. 
Their these set out and went 

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into a Samaritan Village. 
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as we said before, Samaria would
be the main region. 

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They're traveling through to get
to Jerusalem. 

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Interestingly most Jews would 
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They were deliberately go. 
The long way around to avoid 

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going through Samaria because 
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Like the Samaritans, the 
Samaritans did not like the Jews

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and there's some historical 
reasons for that which we've 

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talked about in other episodes. 
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in the Old Testament, there's a 
period where the people in 

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Samaria, intermixed with Gentile
races and they ended up 

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worshipping false idols. 
And you can see that in Second 

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Kings 17 verse 24. 
So the resulting offspring, and 

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now called Samaritans in the 
time of Jesus and they're kind 

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of considered to be not proper 
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Judea because the Samaritans 
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practices but Jesus in this case
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through Samaria he wants the 
Samaritans to hear the gospel to

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so these set out and they went 
into a Samaritan Village to make

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preparations for him. 
So as we said earlier, maybe the

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reason Jesus sends Messengers is
for theological reasons to get 

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them ready for the Theology of 
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But it could also be that he's 
just sending Messengers out to 

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find a place for him to stay. 
He's kind of looking for a spot 

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where they can all stay in this.
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the people would not receive him
because he was making for 

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Jerusalem. 
And again, what it literally 

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says he is because his Swissair 
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So it seems the Samaritans in 
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They don't approve of someone 
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If this person is just using it 
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Jerusalem. 
They're not okay with that 

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because the Samaritans 
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they believe that was the true 
place of worship and so Jews, 

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who insisted on Jerusalem, being
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They did not appreciate that. 
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said we're going to Jerusalem, 
they weren't happy about it. 

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So in this case, this town of 
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going to let this man stay here 
now, obviously, they don't 

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realize is the Messiah. 
They just think is another do on

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his way to Jerusalem, so they 
don't let him stay there. 

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It's an interesting example, 
isn't it? 

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It's an entire Village who 
collectively doesn't let Jesus 

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come in, they reject Jesus. 
That's exactly what Nazareth did

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in Luke chapter 4, at the start 
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Jesus was rejected by Nazareth 
and here we have at the start of

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what we could call the Judy. 
History, a town rejecting Jesus 

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again. 
So maybe Luke is placed these 

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incidents at the start of the 
two sections to make a point, 

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which is that no matter where 
Jesus goes, he's always met with

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resistance verse 54 seeing this,
the disciples James, and John. 

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So, these are the fishermen sons
of Zebedee and their part of 

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Jesus, in a circle, they know 
Jesus very well and they 

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actually get the nicknames sons 
of thunder. 

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And you can see that in Mark 
chapter 3 there called sons of 

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thunder. 
Why are they called that? 

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Well, we're not given an 
explanation but it's probably 

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because of their boldness. 
And we're going to see that in 

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this very next verse, we're 
going to see why there while 

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they're known as being bold. 
So seeing this, the disciples 

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James and John. 
They're not happy that the town 

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is rejected, Jesus, and they're 
trying to protect him. 

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So they say, Lord, do you want 
us to call down fire from heaven

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to burn them up? 
Now, we see, this is ridiculous,

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but we need to keep a few things
in mind here, particularly the 

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Old Testament context, James, 
and John by now. 

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Realize that they he's anointed 
Apostle. 

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So they do have genuine power, 
they get to share in Jesus power

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and Mission. 
So they believe that the 

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appropriate response for towns 
who reject the message of the 

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kingdom and particularly those 
who outright reject their Master

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Jesus, they think the best thing
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the village to be punished by 
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So these people James and John, 
they have genuine Zeal for the 

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message of the Kingdom, but of 
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Now, there's more to it, those 
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say a bit more, they say, Lord, 
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fire from heaven, to burn them 
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sacrifice is burned up. 
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around. 
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that are sent from the king of 
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down fire from heaven. 
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parallel position. 
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terms of the way he was 
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his own day and they them self. 
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of the kingdom of God and given 
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Fire from heaven, and it makes 
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role of John, the Baptist John, 
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the Baptist was known as being 
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said that so maybe James and 
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Elijah. 
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there's a whole theme of Elijah 
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want us to call down, fire from 
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they have the power to do that. 
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Jesus himself would have had 
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power, certainly we know that 
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exorcisms as a result of the 
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from Jesus, Maybe it's 
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could actually call down fire 
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It's possible that they could do
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If they wanted to, but verse 55,
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to call down fire from heaven. 
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of judgment necessarily. 
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next chapter, Jesus gives 
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him, that's in chapter 10, 
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So it's acceptable for For the 
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But he says that in this case, 
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the wrong impression of what his
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It's not about destruction. 
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judgment where villages will be 
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tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah
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Capernaum. 
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day Villages that reject him 
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Be judged, but he's clear 
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in the future, not while he's on
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So once again here the disciples
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Jesus mission. 
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to soon, teach them to help. 
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He's going to teach you 
societal. 

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Ills, that they need to love and
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going to say. 
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an extra part. 
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and rebuked them. 
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you do not know what manner of 
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man came not to destroy men's 
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about. 
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original, so there's a lot of 
textual dispute about is this 

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supposed to be in there or not? 
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of Jesus. 
The son of man came not to 

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destroy men's lives. 
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support to what we just said, 
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to be destroyed yet because 
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fact, while the kingdom is still
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consummation. 
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wants people's lives to be 
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Not destroyed. 
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basically that the maximum 
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repentance that seemed to be 
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prefer that they repent rather 
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Particularly during his Earthly 
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that the maximum number of 
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So this leads to a possible. 
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That could be made against 
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if this was indeed part of the 
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course that's disputed. 
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original manuscript Jesus, he 
says I've come not Destroy men's

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lives, but to save them. 
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would much prefer that people 
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rather than just killing them 
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Well, that seems to be a pretty 
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punishment. 
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that could be said here and 
certainly the case is, are not 

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exactly the same because In this
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because they have outright 
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Kingdom. 
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whereas in the case of capital 
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governments punishing In some 
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But still there's an interesting
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is, of course, going to come 
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the original manuscript or not. 
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Scholars, to, determine 
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we should keep an eye on in the 
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something that biblical 
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Was this phrase in the original 
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So, verse 56 is the final verse 
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Village and presumably, they're 
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Village, net and nearby one. 
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towards Samaritans and in fact, 
he's going to praise some 

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Samaritan. 
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hear about the Samaritans in 
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And then again in chapter 17 we 
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positive light. 
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Acts, many Samaritans do come to
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than reject him. 
In fact, the Greek word there is

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the opposite of what we see 
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They do not welcome. 
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The book of Acts, they welcomed 
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So the Samaritans themself go 
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terms of the kingdom of God, as 
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along. 
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down to Jerusalem and there on 
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region of Samaria here or near 
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that's where they were in the 
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So they're moving towards 
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here, Jesus, having similar 
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People on the road. 
Now this probably didn't occur 

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on the same day, these are 
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encounters Jesus had but because
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Luke has a group them all 
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In the same story. 
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road who said to Jesus, I will 
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wants to be a full-time 
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He says, I will follow you 
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Jesus probably perceive. 
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is what he says. 
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Jewish analogy. 
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of the air have nests, but the 
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his head. 
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allegory is something like this 
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difficult itinerant life on the 
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permanent place to sleep. 
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the implication is that the man 
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A rough itinerant life that 
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Jesus knew that. 
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little analogy that little 
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So that the man knows if you 
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to have to leave pretty rough. 
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episode. 
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the man said or thought about 
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though, where Jesus does not 
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He doesn't say, come with me, 
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He says the actual opposite 
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An interesting point verse 59, 
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me. 
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Probably much later on. 
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the second person. 
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this person to follow him now. 
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Because in that culture, you 
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rabbi not the other way around. 
Jesus here is choosing people 

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that he wants to follow him and 
that in itself is pretty 

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radical. 
Here's what the person says 

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though, let me go and bury my 
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Now, bearing relatives was a 
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need to bury your relatives, you
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the commandment to honor your 
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in Tobit, Chapter 4 verses Three
to four, which is in Catholic 

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Bibles. 
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about the importance of looking,
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age and burying them when they 
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So the man here is basically 
saying, once my father has 

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passed away and I have taken 
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myself to following Jesus for 
time now. 

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It seems unlikely that the Man's
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otherwise, the man will probably
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burial, but it seems like he His
father will pass away soon. 

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Alternatively, some Scholars 
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that it means something a little
different. 

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Maybe when the man says, let me 
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maybe that's a Jewish way of 
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my aging father until he dies 
and in that case is not 

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envisioning that his father will
die anytime soon. 

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It's just a way of saying, I 
need to look after my old 

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father. 
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means, it's more of an excuse, 
his saying this, as a way of 

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getting out of following Jesus 
and it's would give him in the 

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Indefinite Delay from following 
Jesus. 

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So it's quite an effective 
excuse. 

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If it's true verse 60, Jesus 
answered. 

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Leave the dead to bury their 
dead. 

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Pretty strong words, there or 
leave the dead to bury their own

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dead. 
There's probably a better 

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translation there. 
Now, to understand this thing 

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that Jesus is saying, we need to
understand the different ways 

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that Jesus is using dead. 
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word dead appears twice, but 
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different things in the same 
sentence. 

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It's actually quite a clever. 
Rephrase basically, when he 

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says, Let the dead bury their 
own dead, he's basically saying 

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let those who are spiritually 
dead bury their dead, and the 

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spiritually dead would be those 
who are not following him. 

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In other words, in this case, 
the rest of the Man's family are

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not Believers. 
So they're spiritually dead. 

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And Jesus says, well, they can 
bury his father when he dies 

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rather than this man, this man 
is needed here in proclaiming 

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the gospel. 
Some have thought there might 

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also be a reference here when 
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Man's family. 
The dead, maybe he's considering

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all of Israel is dead because he
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judgment coming on Israel. 
In 70 AD elsewhere in Luke Jesus

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talks about how he knows that 
Israel will soon be destroyed. 

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So, Luke 13 verse 35, and Luke 
19 verse 41 to 44. 

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It's this idea that the Jews as 
a whole, would soon be dead in 

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quotation marks. 
Not All of them, but a large 

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portion of them would be wiped 
out. 

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So, maybe that's behind Jesus 
reasoning here. 

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I think the best explanation, 
that would be to say that he's 

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thinking of dead to mean, 
spiritually, dead at those who 

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are not following him. 
Now, this is pretty radical, 

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he's saying to the men, no, 
don't go and bury your dad. 

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Come with me instead at that 
time. 

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Only. 
There was only a small group of 

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Jews who were not obliged to 
bury their parents and that was 

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a group called The nazarites 
they were basically consecrated 

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juice. 
It's kind of, like, monks they 

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were exempt from the obligation 
to bury their parents. 

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We see that in Numbers chapter 6
in particular, the fact that 

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Jesus says to this man who is 
not a Nazarite apparently, he 

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says no, don't bury your dead, 
come with me. 

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00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,400
That indicates the extraordinary
importance of, Christ's call to 

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discipleship. 
During his ministry, his 

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followers are called to be set 
apart in quite a radical way to 

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serve in God's Kingdom. 
Now Jesus is not undermining the

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propriety of burial, but his 
using what the man said as a 

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stepping stone to illustrate the
higher demands of the Christian 

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Life. 
Indeed, the church actually 

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considers burial. 
A Corporal Works of Mercy. 

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00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,400
If you look at the catechism 
paragraph, 2447 it's pretty 

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clear that burying the dead is a
good thing and Jesus is not 

483
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,100
teaching here that you shouldn't
bury your dead. 

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00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,700
He clarifies it with this second
half of the sentence. 

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He says, your duty is to go and 
spread the news of the kingdom 

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00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:32,000
of God. 
So this man that he speaking to 

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00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,600
is a Believer, so that man 
should have a higher priority, 

488
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,300
which is to serve the kingdom of
God by following Jesus, and 

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00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:40,700
spreading the message. 
The Kingdom. 

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00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:44,900
So here, as in other places, 
Jesus emphasizes the allegiance 

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that allegiance to him takes 
priority, even over family 

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00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:50,400
bonds. 
That's actually a pretty common 

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00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,600
teaching of Jesus in the 
gospels. 

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So, if this man who is a 
Believer already were to choose 

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00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,600
his family, over his obligation,
to preach, the kingdom. 

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That will be quite serious. 
You'll be avoiding quite a 

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00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,400
serious obligation. 
We need to keep in mind that 

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00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,900
Jesus is thinking particularly 
of the time period of his own 

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00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,500
Ministry while he's He's walking
the Earth and we'll talk more 

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about that as we come to the 
last couple of verses here. 

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Verse 61, another person said I 
will follow you sir or I Will 

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00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,500
Follow You Lord. 
So here comes a man who 

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00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:25,900
acknowledges that Jesus should 
be followed and he intends to 

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00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:27,700
do. 
So he says I will follow you. 

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00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,800
But first let me go and say 
goodbye to my people at home. 

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00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,900
So this man is thinking 
logically, he knows that he's 

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00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,900
going to be gone for some time 
when he follows Jesus around. 

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00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:41,700
So he wants the opportunity. 
You to say goodbye to his people

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00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:45,200
first, and that's actually a 
fairly reasonable request. 

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00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,900
In fact, if you look at 1 Kings,
chapter 19, verse 20, when 

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00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:53,800
Elijah called Alicia Alicia, 
said the exact same thing. 

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He said, let me go and say 
goodbye to my parents first. 

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And interestingly, at the time 
Alicia was plowing and the 

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00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,300
plowing thing is going to be 
quite important in the next 

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00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:09,200
verse and Elijah actually, let's
Alicia go and do that, but here 

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00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,000
Jesus is. 
Greater than Elijah. 

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00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,600
So Jesus doesn't allow well as 
far as we know, he doesn't allow

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00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,900
the man to go and say goodbye to
his parents and that in itself 

519
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:22,600
is an indication of how much 
greater Jesus is than Elijah and

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00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,300
certainly many of Luke's readers
would have had the incident from

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00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,600
1 Kings, 19 with Elijah and 
Elisha at the front of their 

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00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,000
minds. 
They heard this man say this so 

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00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,900
he says let me go and say 
goodbye to my people at home. 

524
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,600
The issue here is that Jesus 
doesn't have time to hang around

525
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,200
and wait. 
For this one man to go to his 

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00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,800
parents and then come back. 
Jesus has to keep moving. 

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00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,800
There isn't time for that 
particularly because Jesus is 

528
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,000
getting towards the end of his 
ministry now. 

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So it's not that he doesn't 
think the man should be given an

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00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,700
opportunity to say goodbye to 
his parents in general, that 

531
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:59,100
will be okay. 
It's just that Jesus has an 

532
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,000
urgency of his mission at this 
point. 

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00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,300
So given the context he says it 
would not be okay for the man to

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00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,800
go back and do that verse 62. 
Here's what he says about this. 

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Man, once the hand is laid on 
the plow, no one who looks back 

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00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,800
is fit for the kingdom of God, a
better translation of this would

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be no one who puts his hand to 
the plow, and looks back is fit 

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00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,700
for the kingdom of God. 
So this is an agricultural 

539
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:29,400
metaphor in that culture. 
A plow was a device that was 

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00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,600
used to gather grain. 
Once someone had set themselves 

541
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,300
up on the plow, they would put 
their hand on the plow and then 

542
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,600
start pushing it. 
They'd start moving forward and 

543
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,900
they would concentrate on moving
forward. 

544
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:41,600
I'm watching what they were 
doing. 

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00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,100
If the person got distracted and
they looked behind them, then 

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00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,200
they won't do a very good job of
plowing. 

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00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:49,100
The player won't come out 
straight because they're not 

548
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,300
concentrating. 
So it's actually quite a good 

549
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:54,200
metaphor for serving in the 
kingdom of God. 

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00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,100
So, Jesus is saying that during 
his lifetime, only Those who 

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00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:01,400
commit themselves fully to 
following him and serving the 

552
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,500
kingdom of God are worthy of the
Kingdom. 

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00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:08,500
So people in that time period, 
while Jesus is Alive, people 

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00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:12,200
cannot follow him half Heartedly
or get distracted by other 

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00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,100
things in their life, if they're
going to follow Jesus, they need

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00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,500
to do it properly. 
That's Jesus teaching here. 

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00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,800
You cannot, do it. 
Half-heartedly otherwise it's 

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00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,700
not going to work. 
These last couple of individuals

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00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:27,000
that people that Jesus meets 
here, both you want to go and 

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00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000
say goodbye to their family. 
We shouldn't we should be 

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00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,500
careful how we interpret this. 
It's probably not supposed to be

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00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:36,600
a principle that applies to all 
times, and all people Jesus is 

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00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,600
talking in particular about his 
own Earthly Ministry, while 

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00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,800
Jesus is alive, and walking the 
Earth, those who feel called to 

565
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200
follow him, have to do that. 
He's only going to be with them 

566
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,100
for a short time. 
That does not mean that in all 

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00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,100
times. 
Christian Believers should 

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00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,800
neglect their parents or 
families. 

569
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Clearly, Jesus does not want 
that he's thinking, particularly

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00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,700
of, when he's alive. 
So, in each of the three people 

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00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:03,500
we've seen in each of, the three
cases. 

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00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:07,500
The individuals are unnamed. 
Jesus calls all of them to 

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00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,100
follow him. 
All three of them faced some 

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00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:13,500
sort of mental reservation and 
in all three cases, we don't 

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00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:15,600
find out the outcome. 
We don't know what happened to 

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00:30:15,608 --> 00:30:18,200
them. 
Luke might have deliberately 

577
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,900
Sort of written it this way, or 
focused on it in this way. 

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00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,600
So that his own readers could 
reflect on their own lives and 

579
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,500
priorities, in terms of the 
kingdom. 

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00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:30,400
And certainly there's lessons 
here for us as well in terms of 

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00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:35,800
how we prioritize the kingdom. 
So let's finish the today with 

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00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,200
two quick, catechism references 
which linked to Luke chapter 9. 

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00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,500
So, paragraph 557, this is the 
catechism describing Jesus 

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00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:47,100
journey to Jerusalem when the 
days Drew near for him to be 

585
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:51,300
taken up Jesus, set his face to 
go to Jerusalem by this 

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00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:53,300
decision. 
He indicated that he was going 

587
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:57,100
up to Jerusalem, prepare to die 
there, three times. 

588
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:59,400
He had announced his passion and
Resurrection. 

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00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:03,600
Now heading towards Jerusalem, 
Jesus says, it cannot. 

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00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Be that a prophet should perish 
away from Jerusalem. 

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00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,100
So here you see the catechism 
linking up a few different 

592
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:14,500
passages, which talk about Jesus
decision to go to Jerusalem and 

593
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:18,700
of course a key one of that is 
from Luke chapter 9 here and 

594
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,600
then a short one about Jesus, 
our own experience in paragraph.

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00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,400
Five, for for Jesus shares. 
The life of the poor from the 

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00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,600
cradle to the Cross. 
He experiences hunger thirst and

597
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,200
privation. 
And we certainly see that In 

598
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,500
this passage here when he says, 
I have nowhere to lay my head, 

599
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:38,000
he's actually quite a poor 
person for most of his life. 

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00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,800
And thanks for listening today. 
I hope you have learned 

601
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,500
something new. 
It's a bit of a longer passage 

602
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:45,900
today but we're beginning. 
Quite a significant section in 

603
00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:48,600
the Gospel of Luke. 
Hopefully, you'll tune in again 

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00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,100
tomorrow.
