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Hello everyone. 
Welcome back to logical Bible 

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study. 
And once again, we're taking a 

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look at the Gospel reading for 
today's mass. 

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So if you go to mass today, 
you'll hear from Matthew chapter

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10 verses 26 to 33. 
So we're going to have a look at

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the text. 
And then as we always doing this

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podcast, we want to have a go at
Analyzing the literal sense of 

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scripture. 
What was the original meaning in

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the plain sense of the text? 
What's the author trying to 

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communicate to his audience? 
And of course if we understand 

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that correctly then that would 
also be the meaning that is 

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intended by the Holy Spirit. 
And so that's where we always 

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want to start as Catholics when 
we study the scripture. 

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So Matthew chapter 10 verses 26 
to 33. 

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Jesus instructed. 
The 12 as follows, do not be 

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afraid for everything that is 
now, covered will be uncovered 

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and everything. 
Now, hidden will be made clear 

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what I say to you in the dark. 
Tell in the daylight, what you 

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hear in Whispers Proclaim from 
the housetops? 

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Do not be afraid of Those Who 
Kill the body, but cannot kill 

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the soul, fear Him, rather who 
can destroy both body and soul 

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in hell. 
Can you not buy Two Sparrows for

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a penny and yet not one falls to
the ground without your father? 

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Knowing why every hair on your 
head, has been counted. 

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So there is no need to be 
afraid. 

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You are worth more than hundreds
of sparrows. 

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So, if anyone declares himself 
for me in the presence of men, I

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will declare myself for him in 
the presence of my Father in 

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heaven, but the one who disowns 
me in the presence of men, I 

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will disown in the presence of 
my Father in heaven. 

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So some quite complex language 
here in Matthew and some 

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interesting things we can learn 
about theology. 

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So the context of this one is 
really important. 

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When is Jesus saying this? 
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long speech that Jesus gives his
12 Apostles before he sends them

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out amongst the town's. 
So it's a long disciple speech. 

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Basically, if you want to hear 
the entire speech, you can hear 

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that during the weekday cycle 
around week, 14 of ordinary 

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time, every year. 
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week, 14 of ordinary time, the 
lectionary breaks down this 

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speech into smaller chunks. 
Now, in this particular part of 

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the speech to his Apostles, he's
encouraging them not to be 

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afraid when they face 
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So he's about to send them out 
on a mission and he's also 

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referring to the Future 
missions. 

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They're going to experience 
after he's gone. 

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Verse 26, Jesus instructed the 
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Now, the audience here is 
important, he is talking to the 

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Twelve Apostles and he's giving 
them instructions about their 

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specific Mission. 
So that means what Jesus says 

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here does not necessarily apply 
to all disciples in all times. 

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We can't say that this applies 
to us in the same way. 

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First thing he says, is do not 
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fear of them, so who's the them?
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the apostles not to be afraid of
the Jewish leaders and the 

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governors who are going to 
persecute them and put them in 

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on trial in the coming years. 
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when they preach, the gospel are
going to face persecution. 

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And he's telling them do not be 
afraid of those who persecute 

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you for everything that is now, 
covered will be uncovered and 

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everything. 
Now hidden will be made, clear, 

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this is probably a reference to 
the apostolic age. 

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So, Jesus is looking Head to the
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preach on Earth and Jesus is 
saying that. 

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While he is, currently speaking 
about the kingdom during his own

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lifetime, in a kind of a Ordway 
using things like Parables his 

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teachers here that after his 
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Spirit has come and the 
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The apostles will proclaim the 
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whole world and they won't use 
Parables. 

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So, let's have a look at that. 
Phrase again, for everything 

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that is now, covered will be 
uncovered and everything. 

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Now, hidden will be made clear. 
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about the up, Systolic age. 
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quite clear and not vague as 
Jesus teaching, sometimes is 

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deliberately. 
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deliberately makes things vague 
his contrasting. 

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That with the way, the apostles 
will preach would be very plain.

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That's how God sets up, his Plan
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lifetime, he reveals the kingdom
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way where that only those who 
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And but then the, when the 
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changes it. 
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more plane way and apparently 
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set it up. 
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dark tell in the daylight, what 
you hear in Whispers Proclaim 

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from the housetops. 
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Jesus is telling the apostles 
that they will need to boldly 

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proclaim, the things of the 
Kingdom, which at the present 

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time that he's speaking, he's 
only revealing to them 

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privately, he's saying the day 
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shout, the mysteries of the 
Kingdom from the housetops, and 

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what does it mean by housetops 
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All houses had roofs for 
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So you go up on the roof to talk
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tasks, it was actually good 
place to stand and Shout a 

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message. 
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So, it's a metaphorical thing 
when Jesus says, she'll from the

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housetops. 
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is going to be the apostles 
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First 28, do not be afraid of 
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cannot kill the soul. 
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Apostles to put their suffering 
that they're going to experience

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in an eternal perspective. 
He knows that they're going to 

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encounter a lot of persecution 
in the coming years and he knows

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that some of them are even going
to be killed for their faith. 

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And we know from history, that 
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However, Jesus tells them not to
fear bodily death since in doing

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so they will gain much greater 
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though, go to heaven here, he 
says, there's a much worse fate 

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that they should be afraid of, 
which is this fear Him rather, 

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who can destroy both body and 
soul in hell, this is a scary 

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phrase. 
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refers to Satan and typically 
people will say that who aren't 

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comfortable with seeing God is 
Judge, but in context and 

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certainly in the way Jesus 
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this is God, God, the father is 
the one who can destroy both 

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body and soul in Hell. 
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fear Satan. 
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his other teachings. 
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So, the father is the one who 
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Satan might be there in a sense,
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people there. 
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this up? 
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Apostles not to give up on the 
Faith, No matter how much they 

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will be persecuted. 
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the faith might give them some 
temporary relief, they'll stop 

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being persecuted in this life 
and there might be tempted to do

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that actually. 
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the faith, they will end up in a
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eternal life here. 
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at least for the apostles that 
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in hell. 
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in this context to the apostles 
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The apostles in particular are 
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they are given a very special 
commissioning and Authority from

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Jesus. 
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responsibility to stay in the 
faith and also means they 

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receive a greater condemnation 
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responsibility. 
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He'll hear the word for hell is 
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That's Jesus word that he 
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describing the Eternal state of 
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Jesus teaches things about how 
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notice what he says, fear the 
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and soul in hell. 
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clear about how it works. 
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in some sense, destroyed in 
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discussion among theologians 
about what it means to have your

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soul destroyed, some have 
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Annihilated as in your cell goes
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That's not the Catholic view 
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Destroyed here. 
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which is certainly the way 
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places in the Bible. 
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but Jesus is saying it is a 
place where your soul is kind of

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broken down. 
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the afterlife stuff. 
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of short metaphors to show the 
apostles and to encourage them 

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that God is indeed watching over
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So they should not fear but he's
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our past. 
Age to more information about 

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the afterlife verse 29 first 
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Can you not buy Two Sparrows for
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It appears there might have been
used in liturgical sacrifices at

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the temple. 
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penny is very cheap, but Jesus 
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falls to the ground without your
father, knowing So even though 

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sparrows were common in that 
culture and that were quite 

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cheap Jesus says God, the Father
sees and knows when every single

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Sparrow Falls. 
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omniscience this versed clearly 
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I mean, if he sees all the 
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it teaches that God sees 
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Jesus Point. 
Here is this, if the father can 

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see when every Sparrow Falls, of
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And watch over each of you 
apostles, who are so much more 

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precious than the sparrows. 
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make it stronger than this. 
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fall to the ground without your 
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Knowing it actually says, 
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now, that's even stronger, isn't
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Because it tells us if that's 
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God not only is watching 
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He is actually planning and 
allowing everything everything 

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is under his control and that's 
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belief as well. 
Verse 30. 

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Why? 
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Has been countered. 
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Father Knows people. 
So intimately that he even knows

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the number of hairs on our head.
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We should reflect on this verse 
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This is a God who knows us far 
more intimately and deeply than 

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we even know ourselves. 
He knows the number of hairs on 

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our head. 
We don't know that but he does. 

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Verse 31. 
So there is no need to be 

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afraid. 
You are worth more than hundreds

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of sparrows. 
The apostles, as God's 

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Messengers are far more valuable
than sparrows, that's the 

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teaching here. 
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to all humans as well probably 
in. 

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Jesus mind, all humans are 
valuable to God. 

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They're more valuable than 
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God's image. 
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God, much more than common 
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Now that has interesting 
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As for animal rights movement, 
doesn't it? 

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Because the clear teaching of 
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animals are incredibly valuable 
and worth protecting the clear 

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teaching of scripture is that 
humans are much, much more 

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valuable than animals in the 
eyes of God, at least. 

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Jesus is now going to return to 
the theme of the afterlife and 

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he's going to talk a bit about 
martyrdom and how martyrdom 

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works if you're killed for, 
proclaiming your faith in Jesus 

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verse 32. 
So, if anyone declares himself 

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for me in the presence of men or
is other translations, have this

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acknowledges me before men, When
would this happen well in 

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context? 
Jesus is predicting that there 

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will come a time. 
When the apostles will be asked 

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by the Jewish leaders often at 
the point of death, whether they

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believe, Jesus is the Messiah 
and we know from history, that 

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that happened. 
They basically were told if you 

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deny your faith in, Jesus will 
stop persecuting you. 

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And many of them or certainly, 
the apostles did not. 

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Give up the faith. 
They were willing to die. 

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They would not deny Jesus, other
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If anyone declares himself for 
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will declare myself for him in 
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Heaven. 
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I think, is I work acknowledge 
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Jesus and do not deny him even 
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Jesus Will intercede. 
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will tell the father that this 
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refusing, to give up on Jesus, 
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That's the teaching here and 
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You notice the link here to what
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one who can cast you body and 
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This is another, reminder not to
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can enter Heaven. 
Jesus will honor them if they 

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honor him. 
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but the one who disowns me in 
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disown in the presence of my 
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deny that person to the father. 
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This is a strong implication 
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when asked if they believe in 
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heaven. 
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It's a warning to the apostles 
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will not get into heaven. 
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how much that applies because 
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under quite a strong amount of 
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But certainly here, we have the 
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martyrdom Now, that's all we get
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The next part of this speech is 
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ordinary time. 
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Sunday. 
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little bit Monday of week, 15 in
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quick look at some catechism 
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to this passage from Matthew 
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This is about the idea of a soul
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The term Soul often refers to 
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person. 
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innermost aspect of man, that 
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him that by which he is most, 
especially in God's image, Soul 

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signifies the spiritual 
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Paragraph 1034 is about hell and
this brings together various 

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things Jesus says about gehenna.
Jesus often speaks of gehenna of

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the unquenchable fire reserved 
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their life, refuse to believe, 
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We're both Body and Soul can be 
lost, Jesus, solemnly, proclaims

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that he will send his angels and
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and throw them into the furnace 
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Depart from me, you accursed 
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words, but this is in the 
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teaching that those who persist 
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refusing to believe, and be 
converted, will go to hell where

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their soul and body will be 
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Obviously, there's a bit more 
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This is just one paragraph but 
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to Jesus basic teaching about 
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3 o5. 
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This is about Divine Providence.
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aspects of theology, Jesus asks,
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the Providence of our heavenly 
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children's smallest needs. 
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reference, various passages in 
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where Jesus says, you're the 
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numbered. 
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takes care of us in his Divine 
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Paragraph, 1816 is about faith. 
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only keep the faith and live on 
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Confidently, bear witness to it 
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However, must be prepared to 
confess Christ before men and to

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follow him along the way of the 
Cross amidst the persecutions 

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which the church never lacks 
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The faith are necessary for 
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So, everyone, who acknowledges 
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acknowledge before my father, 
who is in heaven, but whoever 

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denies me before men, I will 
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My father, who is in heaven? 
So we have there, a direct 

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quote, from what we heard today 
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To support the Catholic teaching
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the faith are necessary for 
salvation, we don't like to hear

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that those conditions on 
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them we have to witness to the 
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openly. 
Paragraph to 145. 

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This is our last one for today. 
The faithful should bear witness

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to the Lord's Name. 
By confessing the faith without 

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giving way to fear, preaching, 
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permeated with adoration, and 
respect for the name of our Lord

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Jesus Christ. 
So we'll leave it there for 

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today. 
Thank you again, for listening. 

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I hope you learned something 
new. 

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It's always great to dive into 
the text of the gospels, 

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particularly Matthew. 
Because there's a lot of stuff 

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going on there in terms of the 
Jewish. 

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We often don't know about and 
that's the point of this podcast

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to help you get to know those 
socio-cultural aspects of the 

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text that you may not have been 
aware of so that we can better 

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get out what Jesus intended to 
teach. 

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And I know so many of you have 
benefited from this approach to 

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scriptures. 
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expand the kingdom through 
people and particularly 

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Catholics. 
Learning more about the 

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scriptures. 
All of the information for that 

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is in the show notes. 
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We'll see you again tomorrow.