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Hello everyone and welcome back 
to the cinema. 

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Sit down. 
We are recording live on this 

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rainy morning day. 
My name is Daniel. 

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I am Jerry motherfucking Joseph 
Jesus. 

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And I'm Portia, welcome back. 
I'm saying that we're recording 

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in the morning because I want to
say how absurd is that? 

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We're talking about this movie 
at 9:00 in the morning. 

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Yeah, breakfast cast with like 
coffee and saw too. 

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This is weird. 
This is. 

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Great. 
Yeah, well, you should be up 

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cooking breakfast. 
And I hope you enjoy your eggs 

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and Bakey. 
Hope you ate it before you were 

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listening to this cause yeah, 
even listening to this I don't. 

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Well, we're not gonna add sound 
effects. 

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No, Well, no. 
There will be no sound. 

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Effects there'll be like 
chainsaws and. 

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But Jerry will heavily describe 
each death. 

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Yes, that joke, Jerry, that is 
your job. 

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Why? 
Why? 

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Because. 
We've because we're making Yeah,

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we, we just came up with the 
fact that if someone's listening

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to this. 
We want. 

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You just to scare. 
Well, actually, they couldn't be

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having breakfast, could they? 
They could be. 

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They could be having. 
More driving. 

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We're going to scare. 
Them I rather soon when people 

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live in the podcast. 
Sorry, don't look in your 

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rearview mirror. 
I'm looking at you. 

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Speaking of which, when do you 
guys listen to your podcast and 

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do do you guys listen to 
podcasts? 

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Yeah, I do, whenever I'm 
driving. 

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Driving most of the time or 
maybe working. 

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With doing the dishes. 
Word. 

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Oh yeah. 
Housework. 

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Housework. 
My headphones. 

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Purely in. 
So basically morning, afternoon 

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or night, I'm listening to 
something, yeah. 

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At work, at my desk, often 
listening to podcasts. 

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Yes, interesting. 
Yeah, OK, cool. 

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Sometimes even hours. 
Oh no, I do listen to us. 

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Yeah, I'm like, I don't know if 
it's weird, but I, I first I go 

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on breaks where I won't listen 
to us for like a month and then 

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I'll be like, all right. 
I gotta catch up. 

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I don't think it's weird. 
I think it's kind of like a 

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quality control check. 
Yeah, no, I'm, I'm checking for 

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things that like we'll forget 
about later. 

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Yeah, like did you? 
I've listened to some. 

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Sorry. 
I've listened to some of our 

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episodes where I've told Jerry 
to add something in and he 

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hasn't added it. 
And then when we listen to it 

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back, I'm like, oh fuck, Jerry. 
Like, and then we come in the 

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next week and we're like, how 
dare you? 

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Shaking her Facebook point. 
Of me telling you to add 

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something in post and then you 
don't do it. 

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Yeah. 
No, I know I don't. 

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I don't, I just don't give a 
shit. 

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There's also, there's also an 
episode where we said we wanted 

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to do an SNL month and I'm 
bringing that up because that 

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was a great idea and we need. 
To do it. 

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Oh my God, it was. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, SNL month. 
Oh. 

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My gosh. 
Yeah, it was. 

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Yeah, we should. 
Either spin offs from the show 

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or stars major players from SNL.
Either 1 is fine. 

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I'm fucking telling you, look, 
we gotta get a whiteboard. 

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We gotta get a whiteboard. 
With we need a. 

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Whiteboard strings and Charlie 
Day just like. 

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Yeah, I've seen that meme and I 
know I get that meme, I get that

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reference, but I think it would 
be good to have Well, that's I 

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should be taking notes. 
Yes, we should have someone 

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taking it. 
Where the fuck is Shanice? 

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Speaking of Shanice, let's play 
the fanfare. 

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Play it. 
You know you almost never missed

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the fanfare though, to be fair. 
No, he's only missed it once, I 

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think. 
Yeah. 

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Do you not? 
No, Actually, that would have 

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been a really awkward silence. 
Do you know that? 

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You always do. 
Let's play the fanfare in kind 

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of like A Knight's Tale it. 
Feels like. 

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Cometh roll. 
It does like being unravelled, 

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yeah. 
Unravelled so I feel like it's. 

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Here cometh the fanfare. 
We did try to change the fanfare

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at the beginning of this year 
and it's all like dubstepy. 

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So like my intro makes zero 
sense. 

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It's. 
Funny. 

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OK, so yeah, that's the normal 
one I use. 

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I used the normal. 10 I think 
that was their I think it's the 

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Forrest Gump episode. 
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and I was like wow, that's a 
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Episode. 
That was a good episode. 

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That was a good one. 
That was a long one, but that 

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was a good one. 
Shameless. 

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Mother fucking plug. 
Well, we don't have a Porsche's 

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News Corner this week, but in 
lieu of, we will just continue 

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our kind of random ramblings 
until we're ready to get into 

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the movie. 
Yeah, that is horseshit. 

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You said last week you were 
going to have a news corner. 

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Yeah, I might have said that, I 
might. 

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I might have said that and that 
might be true. 

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You know what, it's fine. 
Let's just we can have a little 

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combo ramble. 
That's OK. 

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You know, what are you doing on 
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I'm looking up stuff on getting 
the pages ready for Google doc 

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doc sheets and saw too. 
Thanks. 

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Great. 
Give away the movie title. 

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Great. 
Now there's no grand reveal. 

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OK. 
But we are talking about a major

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horror franchise, so I think 
it's a good time to talk about 

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other horror franchises. 
What? 

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What non Halloween franchises? 
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Halloween. 
Franchises got it. 

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Let's let's get our listing is 
on. 

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Jerry, do we have our listeners 
on? 

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Honestly, if someone said that 
to me, I'd punch them. 

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You with that's opener is guys, 
come on. 

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Oh, which franchises would you 
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Does Carrie count as a 
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I'm going to say no. 
Well, no, that's not fair 'cause

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there's 2, isn't it? 
Cool and a bunch of. 

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Remake no. 
Yeah, but that's I don't. 

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OK, so what's the grounds for a 
a like a a franchise? 

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Is it more than one more? 
Than three I think you have to 

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have more than three to have a 
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like well like smile smile is 
not a franchise yet not yet no 

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but I think I. 
Hope it doesn't. 

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Neither is Megan. 
Those movies slap, by the way. 

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Oh, I wanna watch those. 
Oh, I think, Megan. 

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Megan, I think. 
About you should you should 

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watch them. 
Drake and Josh, I've seen the 

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whole. 
Not Drake and Josh. 

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Damn it, Jerry. 
What if there's an installment 

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and they bring Miranda Cosgrove 
to play Megan and she's just 

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yeah. 
Life-size Megan. 

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Yeah. 
You know, like, she could just 

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be like. 
That scene is, you know. 

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Featuring Tyra Banks. 
Oh yes. 

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I don't know what that movie is 
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about dancing. 
And it's really not that one 

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scene. 
Is like, what's that? 

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That scene is so weird. 
Dances you to death. 

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No. 
She tap dances your ass to 

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death. 
She's. 

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Like she's Tom dancing me to 
death and I'm like bitch, what 

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is happening? 
Killer robot, but there's just 

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this one scene in the hallway 
where this guy is like waiting 

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for her to come and she's just 
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Oh wait, that's only one scene. 
That's not like her killing 

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strategy. 
She's like killer robot. 

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Her weakness? 
Will Smith. 

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Oh my God. 
Oh yeah, I've never seen that 

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movie. 
I robot. 

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I am robot. 
Oh dude, Jinx, you guys owe the 

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next round of drinks. 
No, no, wait. 

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Did you say I am robot or I 
robot? 

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I robot, Yeah, See, I said I am 
robot. 

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I am Legend. 
You just. 

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Merged. 
I did. 

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I merged 2 movies. 
You did just merge it. 

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I am legend robot. 
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probably took place after I 
robot. 

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I Hancock. 
I Hancock. 

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Oh, we can. 
Also speak about non Halloween 

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franchises if you have a 
favorite franchise. 

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Oceans. 
The Oceans movies. 

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Obviously that's a franchise 
Lord of the Rings. 

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I just. 
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Franchise did. 
You see the last one? 

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Yeah, it's on Netflix. 
I have not watched it. 

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Yet I have found a Netflix. 
I will watch that, Sorry I feel 

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like I just outed myself for 
not. 

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Having my face. 
You found your cards enough. 

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I found my password. 
I found my password. 

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There you go, and. 
Now you can pay off. 

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Alexa yes, I just the other day,
it was a cold day. 

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I was on the couch and I put 
Lord of the Rings, The 

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Fellowship of the Ring Extended 
Edition on. 

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So what is it like 17 hours as 
opposed to 4? 

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It's three in a bit. 
Oh my God. 

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No, no, no. 
He. 

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Has four hours to commit to 
this. 

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Well, this guy. 
But those movies in the extended

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edition format are just, I 
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Like the first three. 
Yeah, great franchise do. 

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You like The Hobbit also? 
I don't like it as much. 

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I don't think it should have 
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added a lot of stuff if I'm not 
wrong. 

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I I It's been a while since I've
read the book. 

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I've heard that's where this 
Frodo and his and Baggins like 

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start actually gaining feelings 
for each other or something 

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right? 
What Frodo and Baggins Frodo is.

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Frodo Bannon. 
Yeah, it was like Frodo. 

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Only character I know is 
Dumbledore and Lego lost. 

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Jesus fucking. 
You know Sam. 

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Yeah, I know that character. 
You. 

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Just fucking throw Dumbledore in
there, my guy. 

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Isn't that his name? 
Gandalf? 

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Whatever. 
Gandalf, bro. 

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Gandalf. 
Gandalf and. 

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Nope. 
Say it right or don't say it at 

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all, OK? 
He didn't go from Gandalf the 

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Great to Gandalf the Way, all 
right? 

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For you to call him Gandalf. 
OK, Gandalf and LEGO's loss. 

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Nope. 
Lego less. 

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Oh. 
Is that Orlando Bloom? 

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Yes, I care to take care about. 
Orlando Bloom with the wig and 

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he's good with the arrows. 
And good with the bow. 

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A mother fucker 2. 
Friends. 

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Yeah, he's good with bow and 
arrows. 

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Yeah, that and and pirates that 
man is. 

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Growing arrows. 
That man. 

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Is. 
Made like he's done, he doesn't 

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have to do shit right? 
Talk about like like big old 

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splash impact in the in the 
Hollywood game. 

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Regardless of what he did 
before, there were some, I think

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there's one where he was like an
amateur boxer that I think got a

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little bit of critical acclaim. 
But then after that, see I can 

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see you trying to. 
Actually no. 

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I'm literally trying to think of
did he have an impact in any 

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other movie besides those two 
trilogies, No. 

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He's been another thing, not 
that I'm. 

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Aware of he was in Pirates and 
and Lord of Rings but like I 

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don't know what else he played 
all of. 

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Franchises and he was in The 
Hobbit. 

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Speaking of franchises, I just 
want to bring this up because 

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unfortunately the world lost a 
beautiful soul this over the 

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weekend, Diane. 
Dan Keaton. 

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Dan Keaton But I wanted to bring
up Father of the Bride. 

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I forgot how much I loved those 
movies growing up. 

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Yeah. 
I forgot about. 

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I forgot until I saw stills of 
her face and I was like Oh my 

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God she's the mom from that 
franchise and I forgot. 

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We also lost Jane Goodall. 
I know she's. 

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Not also lost Jane Goodall, she 
was a. 

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An amazing person. 
You know what, Dan? 

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Keaton is wonderful though, I 
love her in so many things. 

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Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you 
off. 

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No. 
She's great. 

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You know what? 
I saw her last night and it 

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unlocked the whole like memory 
Bank of like 90s early 90s movie

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Crocodile Dundee. 
I am watching Dancing at the 

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Stars this season so I am seeing
Robert Irwin on my screen on a 

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weekly basis. 
So. 

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I constantly have to do with 
that. 

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Because when you think, when I 
think about crocodiles, 

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crocodiles, I think I think 
about Steve. 

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Irwin and that story era. 
A new documentary. 

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Crocodiles. 
It's all about the croc. 

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I don't know, you threw me off 
with that, but are we were 

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talking about? 
Oh she just stopped talking so 

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I'm confused. 
Oh, I finished what I had to 

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say. 
That's. 

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All I just I I think if you 
haven't seen this is a general 

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PSA if you haven't seen 
Crocodile Dundee in a while. 

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It's been about 1520 years for 
me maybe. 

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I used to watch it religiously 
as a kid. 

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I've never seen it but I 
remember getting it confused 

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with Steve Irwin as a kid. 
I got them confused and that's 

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why I meshed them into one. 
Fair. 

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Yeah, I think everyone should 
rewatch that because it is, 

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which I found out yesterday. 
It's a screenplay by Paul Hogan.

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It stars Paul Hogan. 
It's directed by Paul Hogan. 

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And I think it is fantastic. 
I think it's beautifully shot. 

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I think it's a gorgeous movie. 
It's funny. 

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It'll make you cry. 
It's a 90s movie. 

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Yeah. 
And it came out in like 86. 

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So the soundtrack must be dope. 
Soundtrack fucking slaps. 

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Sorry I I'm really on my no. 
I mean, what you're saying is 

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90's. 
The soundtrack's got to be good.

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Oh, it's got to be good all the 
way through the movie. 

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No breaks. 
No, it's just music, background 

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music. 
Background music the whole time,

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that's. 90s if you want to buy 
me flowers. 

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Not that kind of 90s. 
Is it? 

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Like if you want to buy me 
flowers. 

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Australian it more like 
goodnight mate. 

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If you want to blow me flowers, 
it's more like instrumental. 

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Is Anaconda a franchise? 
Yes. 

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Are there sequels? 
I thought isn't there? 

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No, but did you see the trailer 
for the remake? 

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Yeah, she looks hilarious. 
I'm actually, it's like a 

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parody. 
I didn't know it was going to be

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like that. 
And I'm like. 

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OK, I'm I'm kind of there for. 
It it looks like fun. 

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Paul Rudd. 
Paul Rudd? 

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Yeah, it was like Paul Rudd. 
Sign me up. 

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It's a It's supposed to be 
funny, right? 

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Like unicorns or whatever. 
The Death of a. 

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Unicorn Death of a Unicorn. 
I don't know. 

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I don't know what the plot is. 
Did you watch that one? 

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Not yet, not. 
Yet me neither. 

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I don't think it was funny 
though, or kind of come dark 

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comedy. 
Dark comedy. 

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Yeah, I haven't seen. 
That, but I don't. 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but 
Shanice, I don't know if there's

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more than one Anaconda. 
I feel like the. 

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First one in 1995. 
DVD and I don't know if that 

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counts as like being in a 
franchise or not because it's. 

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Part of the if it's part of the,
you know. 

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'Cause I know what you did last 
summer is technically a 

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franchise too, but like, has 
anyone seen? 

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Oh yeah, there's a ton of them. 
There's 3 and 4. 

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There's at. 
Least three? 

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I'm pretty sure there's a 
fourth. 

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Wait a wait, I know you did last
summer. 

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I still. 
Have Anaconda, so that's a 

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franchise. 
There's Anaconda, Anaconda, The 

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Hunt for the Blood orchid, 
Anaconda 3 offspring, Anaconda, 

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DVD trial of blood like Placid 
versus Anaconda. 

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Like Placid versus Anaconda. 
Fuck. 

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Oh. 
Could all be an Anaconda and. 

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Then they're remaking the 1997 
film with Dwayne Rock Johnson 

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and Jason Statham called The 
Anaconda. 

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So it's there's going to be 6 
movies. 

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Yeah, they're in the making of 
making it right. 

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Now that's got to be. 
Wrong. 

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So there's going to be an actual
Anaconda sequel to? 

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Release 2025? 
Really. 

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Yeah, no Fact Check that on 
IMDb. 

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Fact checking. 
What were we just saying? 

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Wait. 
Oh, I was saying, I know what 

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you did last summer. 
Oh, yeah, So I know what you did

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last summer. 
I still know what you did last 

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summer. 
I'll always know what you did 

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last summer. 
I'll always know what you still 

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did last summer. 
Did you make that one up or is 

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that a real title? 
No, I made it up, but it's 

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probably right. 
That would have been fucking. 

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See, if I hadn't said anything, 
you would. 

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Still know what you probably did
last summer? 

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Maybe always. 
Always so there, OK and then 

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there is a new one out or 
coming. 

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There's a new one that's it's 
out already. 

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It's out already. 
Didn't do very well 'cause I 

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haven't heard anything. 
Yeah, I'm, I'm gonna. 

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But Sarah Michelle Gellar. 
Sarah Michelle Gellar does 

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Hewitt's, well, Jennifer Love 
Hewitt's back, Freddy's back. 

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Both of their characters are 
like, alive and well. 

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And Sarah Michelle Gellar does 
make a cameo in it, but her 

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character is in fact dead. 
So she's not gonna be like in 

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the movie, but she's in the 
movie. 

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OK, So talking about 90s 
franchises and say some of the 

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more cemented ones that have 
been rebooted like how Freddie 

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Friday Freddie. 
Fire destination squeezes in at 

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the end. 
Sure. 

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What do you feel about this? 
Like new wave of Say Smile or 

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Five Nights at Freddy's Megan. 
Not really a horror movie. 

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But I feel like I'm on the 
outside of it. 

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I feel like I. 
Feel like sore? 

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Yeah, like Saw is the last one 
that I was really keeping up 

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with, and I haven't seen just 
the last installment, but I 

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haven't gotten into many of the 
newer horror movies because I 

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feel like I'm too jaded. 
With the Exception of a Smile, 

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I've never seen Hostile. 
I don't actually like Body. 

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That's Gorno. 
That's a different genre, I 

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think. 
It do you? 

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Yeah, I feel like hostel was 
made because. 

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It's like I think hostel was 
probably, I think hostel was 

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probably made from saw. 
Oh yeah, absolutely. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
I don't think there's any way 

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that. 
Movie would have been like. 

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Yeah, like they just tried to 
get more and more. 

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I mean saw, I mean. 
Saw start if the first. 

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Hostel did give me did give me a
fright. 

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It gave you a fright me a fright
Throwback to that Parent trap. 

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Go watch that. 
That's a. 

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Shameless plug of that. 
It started that wave of kind of.

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That one was good though. 
I liked the first one. 

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It was scary enough. 
That was like, oh shit, like, 

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you know, for me at least I, I 
think I went. 

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How do you travel? 
After that movie, after I saw 

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that movie, I but we heard that 
movie. 

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I was, that's what I was asking.
I was like, did you travel 

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before? 
Or I don't remember when, when 

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that came out. 
I've never seen hostile because 

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no, I'm not gonna lie, that 
looked too scary for me, like. 

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Five O 7. 
It's got to be this one is 2005,

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so it's got to be in that realm.
It's got to be it's. 

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Got to be right like. 2005, Yep.
That makes. 

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Sense. 
That makes sense. 

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Wouldn't human centipede be 
pretty close to this too? 

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Yeah, look up the human 
centipede. 

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I think that's 2009, 2007, 2008.
That would have been right at 

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the end of like when body. 
No, maybe 11. 

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Cool. 
Yeah, so. 

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Because House of Wax too, 2006. 
That's. 

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A very body work 2009 there. 
You go. 

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We've definitely gone away from 
that genre, I think, I think. 

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So. 
I think people have had enough 

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of it. 
I think they're going back to. 

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Psychological stuff. 
Yeah, oh, oh, oh, things like 

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hereditary and like the 
Midsomer. 

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And have you seen hereditary? 
I'm like halfway through it. 

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It's freaky. 
It's freaky, though, That's the 

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thing. 
It Yeah. 

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But like in here scary or like 
visually? 

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It's a bit of both. 
Like it's one of those ones that

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I feel, look, I've told you guys
multiple times, like horror is 

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not my genre. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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I don't mind watching them. 
There are some I won't do, yeah.

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I won't ever watch the Human 
Centipede again. 

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Things like that. 
Hereditary is is on that line of

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like. 
I don't know if I can handle 

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this. 
Well, it's, it's really well 

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done and it's got a great cost 
and it's I don't know if it's a 

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24, but the director, I'm pretty
sure it's a 24 in my I imagine 

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it is, but those kind of move 
like the witch Midsummer 

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hereditary. 
I know I'm missing some, but 

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like don't breathe. 
You could probably put in that. 

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That was good. 
Don't do we see the first one 

410
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,600
right? 
See, there's a couple of those, 

411
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,880
yeah. 
The one where the kids break 

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into the house and they got. 
The blind guy of the blind. 

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Kind of like I saw the Special 
Forces. 

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I think the first one and we 
were like, it was boring. 

415
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It wasn't kind of boring. 
It wasn't enough. 

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Killing it was and. 
We might have watched it and I 

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don't. 
Think you liked it? 

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I don't. 
I didn't think you liked the 

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first one. 
So we never. 

420
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Lost the second one. 
I didn't see the second one. 

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Yeah, I'd want to try it again 
just to see. 

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But I do have this mysterious 
power where if I don't like a 

423
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movie, I will. 
It's like I've never seen it. 

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That's amazing. 
I don't and then I'll like 

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someone will turn it on and I'm 
like, oh, I was. 

426
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Watching it for the first time, 
yeah. 

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Or it'll be like halfway through
and I'm like, Oh yeah, I did 

428
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,600
watch this Once Upon a time. 
I didn't like it then and I 

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continue to not like it now. 
I think we're moving away. 

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I think there's a more, you 
know, like psychological kind of

431
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horror, thriller, suspense going
on, whatever, basically whatever

432
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we're doing. 
I like it more than the the 

433
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previous version, but you can 
keep some of them in there. 

434
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,080
Yeah, I agree with that. 
On that note, shall we get into 

435
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tonight's pick? 
Tonight. 

436
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,320
Yeah, I know we always say 
tonight, but this is clearly a 

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breakfast cast. 
This morning's pick. 

438
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Today's rainy day pick. 
Yeah, yes, please. 

439
00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,040
What do we watch? 
Barely scratched my eyes before 

440
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,720
we do. 
I was like, let's talk about 

441
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,480
there, saw. 
Two, there is the guy who Who is

442
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,040
the guy in Bear the Bear? 
Jeremy. 

443
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Jeremy Allen, apparently. 
He's going to play Bruce 

444
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Springsteen. 
When not apparently it's coming 

445
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out in like a week. 
Yeah, I didn't know that. 

446
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I've never. 
I didn't know that was happening

447
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in a week. 
I kind of. 

448
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Remakes and going straight to 
bio pics next like they're going

449
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to be doing a lot of they just 
did that Bob Dylan. 

450
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That was good. 
I watched that Madonna. 

451
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I'd watch it if I was a Bob 
Dylan fan. 

452
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No, you should watch it for the 
portrayal of him and how well of

453
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a job Timothy Hay. 
Did I probably probably so good.

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I just don't like his voice and 
I'd probably be like. 

455
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,360
No, you should watch it. 
Five years, Elvis, five years, 

456
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All these people. 
He learned how to play the 

457
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guitar like he learned 
everything. 

458
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,040
This is like this. 
This this gives me a little bit 

459
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,880
of hope that there are some good
film makers and actors of the 

460
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,720
new generation coming through 
when you can make it. 

461
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:53,320
Sorry I. 
Know you? 

462
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,520
No, go ahead. 
When you can do a movie like 

463
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,960
that, Yeah. 
Well, sorry. 

464
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,960
When you can dedicate a craft to
that. 

465
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,360
He's even. 
Did you see the thing about ping

466
00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:01,520
pong? 
Oh, I'll get to it in a minute. 

467
00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:05,080
Yeah, the Marty Supreme. 
Yeah, the thing about like 

468
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,360
Elvis, the mannerisms, 
dedicating so much time and then

469
00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,800
still doing other projects on 
top of that. 

470
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,480
And same with like Timothy and 
Jeremy Ellen White. 

471
00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:18,360
I'm just saying everyone's name.
Like Timothy. 

472
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,280
I think it's I think it's 
interesting. 

473
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,800
I have a little bit of an issue 
that he doesn't look like Bruce 

474
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,840
Springsteen, but it's always 
going to be yeah, I've people, 

475
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,400
yeah, people have said I'm 
wrong, but that's fine. 

476
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,080
I. 
Also don't think the guy who 

477
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,680
played Elton John in the biopic 
look like Elton John until I saw

478
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,240
the the like. 
The stuff. 

479
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,920
For the movie. 
And I was like, yeah, OK, that 

480
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,400
looks enough like Elton John. 
I get it. 

481
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,920
Yeah. 
That rocking man was good. 

482
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,280
The I need to see the Robbie 
William, one Robbie Williams, 

483
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:46,920
one monkey man, more of it was. 
I don't know if it's in 

484
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,560
production. 
It's been in production hell for

485
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,640
a while now and I don't know why
that is, but there is going to 

486
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,080
be a biopic with Madonna and 
she's like an executive producer

487
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,400
on it. 
And I didn't watch it. 

488
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,440
Did either of you watch Ozark? 
I've heard it's. 

489
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,280
It's all like half of the first 
season. 

490
00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:05,400
Jennifer, the girl, the 
daughter. 

491
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,960
Julia Garner. 
Yeah, Julia Garner is going to 

492
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,040
play Madonna and she is 
incredible. 

493
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,960
I watched her on some other 
stuff. 

494
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,040
I. 
Thought Taylor Swift could have 

495
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,560
played her. 
And you need to put that beanie 

496
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,840
back on and get the fuck out. 
Go. 

497
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,480
Ahead and pop that beanie back 
on. 

498
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,480
I. 
Oh no, Taylor Swift is like 2 

499
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,160
million too. 
Like too tall. 

500
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,920
I'm I cannot even imagine it. 
I'm like, no, she's too lanky. 

501
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,800
That's like Don is very compact.
It's like having Shaq play 

502
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,120
Michael Cera. 
Or or like Kevin Hart in a 

503
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:36,680
biopic. 
Ohh. 

504
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,480
Kevin Hart, the Shaq by. 
Yeah. 

505
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,560
I'd watch. 
That should be fucking 

506
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,080
hilarious. 
Look larger. 

507
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,720
Shaq, Kevin Hart, Shaq now 
playing this summer. 

508
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,960
Gary Olman. 
Or Gary, whatever his name is. 

509
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,680
Gary Coleman, Gary Coleman, Gary
Olman, Gary Olman's White 

510
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,000
that's. 
Hilarious. 

511
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,760
Oh, that would be even funnier. 
We're doing a bit of a Tropic 

512
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,760
Thunder here. 
All right, well, let's get into 

513
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,280
today. 
This morning, Tonight's pick 

514
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,400
saw. 
Halloween. 

515
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,280
Would you guys like a little bit
of a synopsis? 

516
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,080
I was waiting for Jerry to 
finish so I could say there will

517
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,400
be blood and then I would say 
yes. 

518
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,600
Synopsis. 
Excellent. 

519
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,560
Do it. 
The nightmare puppet is back. 

520
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,120
Jigsaw returns with another 
madhouse of terror, only this 

521
00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:27,240
time it's a group effort and it 
takes a special interest into a 

522
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,040
specific detective with the 
right stuff. 

523
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,280
Saw 2 came out October 28th of 
2005. 

524
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,720
It's rated R, It's one hour and 
33 minutes long. 

525
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,160
It stars Donnie Wahlberg as. 
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 

526
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,520
Detective Eric. 
He's on the block. 

527
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,680
Tobin Bell as Jigsaw. 
John Shawnee Smith. 

528
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,080
Toby Bell as Jigsaw John. 
Yeah 'cause he's certainly 2 

529
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,280
characters. 
He's Jigsaw and he's drawn. 

530
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,880
Shawnee Smith as Amanda, 
Directed by. 

531
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:57,960
Name. 
Yeah, Jigsaw. 

532
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,960
John coming in. 
Directed by Darren Lynn Boot 

533
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,200
Bowsman, Written by Lee Wannell 
and Darren Lynn Bowsman. 

534
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,360
Produced by Lionsgate slash 
Twisted Pictures. 

535
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,280
Thank. 
You for that? 

536
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,120
Jane, thank you. 
Yeah. 

537
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,920
Did you hear me applause? 
I was I. 

538
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,320
Think we were cheering the whole
fucking time? 

539
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,240
I heard you, yeah. 
Yeah, Porsche's back on form. 

540
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,200
That was. 
I've been thinking about that 

541
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,600
for two days. 
I love those songs so much I'm 

542
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,440
going to listen to her on. 
The way get it, girl. 

543
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,320
Does. 
I'm over here dancing. 

544
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,160
You and Porsche the first saw. 
It's a very difficult way for me

545
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,040
to say James Wan. 
They're accidental. 

546
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,600
Correct. 
Anything to do with the sequels?

547
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:45,840
The they got the same writer to 
come back to help with the 

548
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,840
script because this was actually
a retooled script for a a Saw 

549
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,520
adjacent movie. 
And they were like, that's too 

550
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,120
similar to Saw, let's just make 
it a sequel. 

551
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,920
But James Wan was busy doing 
another big movie. 

552
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,320
I forget Conjuring. 
I I think, yeah, I think he was 

553
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,960
working on The Conjuring so he 
couldn't do come back to. 

554
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,640
Do this one Aquaman. 
Was it Aquaman? 

555
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,000
Was it? 
Is that a meme? 

556
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,160
The way I said it was, yeah, I 
love that. 

557
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,280
I never heard of. 
It, yeah. 

558
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,240
I don't know. 
Did he actually do Aquaman? 

559
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,640
I think so. 
Oh shit. 

560
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,160
First one and the second one. 
Sure. 

561
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,240
I don't know, I don't know. 
Where the fuck is Shanice? 

562
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,120
She's in the bathroom. 
She says be back in 1515. 

563
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:27,720
Yeah dude, but bathroom is 6 
blocks away. 

564
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,000
We don't let her use this one. 
Oh, also, you didn't catch that 

565
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,640
babe. 
I just say How I Met your myth, 

566
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,880
How I Met your mother reference 
on accident, I said. 

567
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:43,360
But it was unintentional though.
Thank you initial thoughts. 

568
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,000
I I feel not ashamed, but these 
are like very guilty pleasure 

569
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,520
movies for me. 
This was my first foray into a 

570
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,880
horror movie franchise that I 
actually like with. 

571
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,200
You. 
Oh my God. 

572
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,440
Sorry. 
That's good. 

573
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,920
He started it. 
Other thoughts and opinions I. 

574
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:04,800
Sure. 
No, Mommy. 

575
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:08,600
You're in a weird mood thing, 
yeah. 

576
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,880
Because we're cutting you off 
so. 

577
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,640
They scratched that like weird 
itch of kind of like horror 

578
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,440
movie. 
They're not scary. 

579
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,080
I think that they're terrifying,
really. 

580
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,920
I think the traps are kind of 
they're cool, but I would some 

581
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,880
of them. 
Some of them are. 

582
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,480
Horrible, but imagining myself 
in it, yeah it's freaky as fuck.

583
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,120
I had some. 
Of them we're going to talk 

584
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,680
about in this movie, I'm going 
to like. 

585
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,720
Disassemble. 
I'm going to say this is how I 

586
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,720
would do it. 
Oh yeah, like. 

587
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320
There's so many fucking things 
in this movie that are like, 

588
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,120
what? 
I know, and I love watching 

589
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,360
them. 
The first time watch is always 

590
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,120
very interesting. 
The second time, it's always 

591
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,160
like you've got that feeling. 
Like, yeah. 

592
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:53,760
I wouldn't have done that. 
Yeah, now you're like. 

593
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,600
What are you doing? 
Good fucking idiot. 

594
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,760
I'm like, I can get out of that 
trap, yeah. 

595
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,160
Why are you panicking? 
Hold my beer the. 

596
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,240
Button's over there, don't put 
your hand in a box. 

597
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,200
Yeah. 
No, I had nightmares for weeks 

598
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,240
about being trapped in a house 
like this. 

599
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,800
Did you? 
When I first saw this movie back

600
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,160
in the You have to remember I 
was 15 when this movie came out.

601
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:13,440
Just pretty fucking scary to me.
Fair. 

602
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,840
Fair. 
I'm trapped in the house. 

603
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,520
I'm trapped in the house, never 
coming out. 

604
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,760
Remember when that's remember. 
That was like a 15. 

605
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,040
What? 
A time to be alive, just 

606
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,840
remember. 20. 12 I didn't. 
Close. 

607
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,320
Just remember. 
Me in silence, Just remember. 

608
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,880
Aquaman. 
I could just put like twinkling 

609
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,120
sounds on whenever she's like. 
Just remember you can delete my 

610
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,600
Aquaman, but just chop it out 
completely and. 

611
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,000
Put I was going to start adding 
zippers if I remember every time

612
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,360
she's like put that in your back
pocket. 

613
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,480
Zip, OH. 
I like that. 

614
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,600
I really like that. 
I like the zip, that's fun. 

615
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,600
Zip and twist, baby. 
With all of that out of the way,

616
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,680
would you guys like to jump into
the movie? 

617
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,360
I cannot wait. 
Let's do it. 

618
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,480
So, as per usual with all soft 
franchise entries, we start in a

619
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,800
trap. 
Yes, I took notes. 

620
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,880
And so we, we start in our first
trap. 

621
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320
This one is called the death 
mask. 

622
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,800
I tried to remember to write 
down the traps as I saw them, 

623
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,640
but like some of them I'm just 
going to have to describe to you

624
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,120
because I didn't get a name for 
all of them. 

625
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,680
But this first one is the death 
mask. 

626
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,440
And it's kind of, it reminds me 
of the reverse bear trap thing. 

627
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,720
It's basically the opposite of. 
It. 

628
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,400
Yeah, it's kind. 
Of the one that you would say 

629
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,640
Amanda started with. 
Right, right. 

630
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,120
And it's. 
Similar. 

631
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,200
It's like an iron mask from the 
it's. 

632
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,520
Kind of like an Iron Maiden. 
Yes, thank you. 

633
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,640
I was trying to think of that. 
I couldn't think of the name of 

634
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,480
that, but basically the 
contestant. 

635
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760
I've seen an old guard baby. 
The contestant I. 

636
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,160
Need to see the second one. 
Thank you. 

637
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,360
So fucking. 
Good. 

638
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:48,040
No, I know. 
I know. 

639
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,080
You just reminded me that she's 
in the bottom of the ocean. 

640
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,640
So the contestant like hears 
contestant. 

641
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Come on down. 
Come on down. 

642
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,040
Let's say 599. 
He's like high fiving all the 

643
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,080
the little billies in the crowd 
the. 

644
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,360
Little billies. 
Everyone's up Billy, except for 

645
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,720
him. 
You just call him up and that's 

646
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,360
the trap. 
So he has to figure out how to 

647
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:21,400
get a key to escape this mask, 
and the key is hidden under his 

648
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,960
eye, behind his eye where I 
didn't. 

649
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,800
I'm not gonna lie, I didn't 
quite figure it out. 

650
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,640
Like when? 
It's it's like right here, but 

651
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,200
it's you got to take out your. 
Eye. 

652
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,680
You got to take out your eye. 
Jigsaw wants you to take out 

653
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,800
your eye. 
There will be blood. 

654
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,600
There will be blood, so. 
So am I to am I to do you? 

655
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,600
Want to play a game? 
To yes, I do, Jerry. 

656
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:47,880
So am I to think, Jerry, to 
believe that one Jigsaw in this 

657
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,640
whole scene, he doesn't ever say
how much time he has. 

658
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,120
He does one. 
No, he never vocally says it. 

659
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,560
He says the timer on your head 
is on there. 

660
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,040
Where's the timer? 
It's on his fucking neck. 

661
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,000
Can he see it? 
No. 

662
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,640
But yet he says no, No, no, no, 
no. 

663
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,720
Right before the end. 
Yeah, he. 

664
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,960
Has no fucking clue when it's 
going to go off. 

665
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600
There is. 
There is no sound except for the

666
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,040
end. 
Wait, Are you sure? 

667
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,800
And he can't see it. 
The timer is on the side and and

668
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,800
he never says in the thing you 
have this many seconds to do it.

669
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,600
He never mentions it. 
I don't remember him mentioning 

670
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,200
a specific time either. 
He doesn't. 

671
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920
There is like a tickle clock 
sound but it's hard to. 

672
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,120
Like yeah, we can. 
See, I watched it 2:00 this 

673
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,520
morning. 
Just if you watch it you can see

674
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,080
it doesn't say it. 
It's hard to say if the taking 

675
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,000
sound is an added thing for the 
audience that we can hear. 

676
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440
That's whether. 
He can also hear it I So to me, 

677
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,160
I thought of it as like, this is
an added thing for the audience 

678
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,960
to up the ante, to make it 
scarier. 

679
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,400
Could be but. 
Not I don't. 

680
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,160
Know you're right. 
You're. 

681
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,840
Right, One of my things about 
sore, The most annoying thing, 

682
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,360
this that. 
Yeah, right there. 

683
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,040
That is always the most annoying
thing. 

684
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,080
Well. 
Describe what's happening is 

685
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,200
he's pulling the. 
Cord, I will. 

686
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,800
I'm sorry. 
Why is that annoying? 

687
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920
Well, because if you hadn't a 
move, the timer would never have

688
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,560
gone off. 
There's always like. 

689
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,200
There's always. 
There's always. 

690
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,240
Yeah, you're absolutely right. 
He could have sat there and 

691
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,560
thought for a minute. 
Yeah, if you basically, you know

692
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,760
how Jigsaw always says look 
closer, I swear to God, if you 

693
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,800
do that for the whole series and
you and you don't panic and you 

694
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,680
take your time, I reckon you 
could. 

695
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,160
Like, I know it's silly, it's a 
fucking movie, but I reckon you,

696
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,280
if you obviously I'm not in 
this, I'm going to fucking 

697
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,360
panic, right? 
Everyone. 

698
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,360
Everyone would. 
Yeah, but if you can't keep your

699
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,440
cool about you, you might be 
able to. 

700
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640
If you pop an ambi right? 
Before so I figured out I kind 

701
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,280
of figured I figured out a way 
that. 

702
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,200
If you have that secret blizzy. 
If I was in this situation, 

703
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,560
would you rather, one, cut your 
eye out like he has to to get 

704
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,120
out of that, or two, do it the 
way I'm about to tell you I 

705
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,440
would do it? 
What would you do? 

706
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,840
I would run into the wall with 
the I wouldn't break the thing 

707
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080
off, but I would run into the 
wall until I broke my 

708
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,400
collarbone, be able to slide my 
shoulder down and get it off 

709
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,400
because it's around his back. 
So as long as it goes to the 

710
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,920
side and falls off your broken 
collarbone. 

711
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,680
Damn if you had a dislocated 
shoulder. 

712
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,440
That's what I'm saying. 
If you run into the wall and 

713
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,360
break your shoulder you could 
break the collarbone and I'd 

714
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,000
rather fucking destroy my bone 
in my arm then cut my eye out. 

715
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,840
Slide it halfway off so it can 
cause it's. 

716
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Weird, it looks like it's here 
but I swear it's. 

717
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,720
Behind. 
Yeah, it looks like under his. 

718
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,360
I. 
Think it's like get out, call 

719
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840
doctor them do it safely where 
you could still have it save 

720
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,960
your. 
Eye in your eye, yeah. 

721
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,320
OK, and they can figure out 
where? 

722
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,600
You're I love it when I love it 
when Jerry goes on a Jerry 

723
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800
tangent. 
But that's just my idea that is 

724
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,360
strapped around. 
Makes the most. 

725
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,680
I mean, look, it's not but OK. 
But see, once you run, you're 

726
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,760
going to start the timer. 
So you got to be quick about 

727
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,240
that. 
Yeah, but you realize that, 

728
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,800
right? 
Figure out how to get it, get it

729
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,200
off of you. 
Because like it's, it's strapped

730
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,480
to his body, right? 
Like if you look at how far it 

731
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,520
goes down to his body. 
It's around. 

732
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200
It's like a like a vest. 
In a yeah, it's like a vest, but

733
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040
in that vest is attached. 
It's not like it's surgically in

734
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,320
his spine. 
No, no, no. 

735
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,040
So. 
He's not a monster, no. 

736
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,040
You know, and apparently he 
doesn't kill people. 

737
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,280
He's we'll get. 
Into more of that later. 

738
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,400
Well, I mean, if you think 
about. 

739
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,560
It, but that's what I he 
doesn't. 

740
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,120
I'd run in, I'd run into it like
somehow sideways to break my 

741
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,320
arm, my shoulder. 
Somewhere to slide? 

742
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,880
The whole system down off my 
shoulder so that the closing 

743
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,520
mask is, I know it's around your
neck, but if you could break 

744
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,080
your shoulder, there's got to be
a way to like slide it so you 

745
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,440
could get out of it. 
But I don't know how close it is

746
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,680
on his neck. 
I don't know if they could, you 

747
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,720
know what I'm saying? 
It sounds good in theory, but 

748
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,520
you'd have to. 
You have to really sit there 

749
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520
like you said and not break the 
timer. 

750
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,520
I mean, look at that. 
It's it's. 

751
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,680
Around his neck. 
It's like leather bound though 

752
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680
around. 
His chest and it's really close.

753
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,480
It's around here. 
Too. 

754
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Oh, that's a perfect pause, 
right? 

755
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,000
There, Jerry, look, it's around 
here. 

756
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,400
It's around his like ribs. 
Yes, that's what I'm saying, but

757
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,840
I don't know how. 
You get that off. 

758
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,640
But even if it. 
Is there you could? 

759
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,400
It's really tight around his 
body, right? 

760
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,560
But imagine your body breaking. 
The thing's gonna loosen up, 

761
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,080
right? 
Sure. 

762
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,160
Like a broken about, Something's
gonna be looser. 

763
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,320
Yeah. 
So can he squeeze his head 

764
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:15,880
through? 
That way. 

765
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,840
Yeah, if he broke his shoulder 
enough to like slide it down his

766
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,480
arm and like, I don't know, I'm 
just cuz they're gonna say 

767
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,840
there's more to sit there like 
you said and think that would be

768
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,040
like a last resort is like 
breaking something. 

769
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,160
But you could sit there as long 
as you fucking want it. 

770
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,560
He never said you couldn't. 
Well, it's also like the thing 

771
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,640
of the first movie is like a lot
of sorry I took too much time on

772
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,280
it. 
No, you're good. 

773
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,240
A lot of people have said, you 
know, he could have just cut off

774
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360
his heel instead of cutting off 
his entire foot. 

775
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,560
Yeah. 
So like maybe if you can think 

776
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,960
more accurately you can make 
smaller decisions instead of 

777
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,360
less like huge ones. 
Drastic. 

778
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,360
So unfortunately, our first 
victim is our first victim. 

779
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,360
We don't care about him. 
No, he's not. 

780
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,720
Actually, he's not. 
He has nothing to do with this 

781
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,080
movie. 
It's just the exciting opener 

782
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,600
that we have to remember. 
Hey, we're in a Saw movie and 

783
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,400
hey, get ready to feel 
squeamish. 

784
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,159
Room to get slightest. 
OK, I'm sorry. 

785
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,080
I'm just he has plenty of room 
now that he's zooming in and out

786
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440
to slide his head out of it. 
Yeah, you're right. 

787
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,199
So he could definitely break his
shoulder. 

788
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,520
It's strapped to him by a 
harness. 

789
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,360
That harness is strapped to the 
device. 

790
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,800
If the harness is gonna slide 
off, yeah, you could look, you 

791
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,199
could slide his your head out of
that once you break your 

792
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:25,880
shoulder. 
I stand on my point. 

793
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,080
Fair. 
I I concur. 

794
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,159
Sorry. 
So we get our we get a title 

795
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,120
card for saw two, and then we 
slide on over and we meet 

796
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Detective Eric Matthews, which I
want to make every Boy Meets 

797
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,120
World reference throughout this 
entire fucking podcast. 

798
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,440
I apologize in advance. 
Every time he walks in, Dun Dun 

799
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,280
Dun Dun. 
Oh, I kept thinking the. 

800
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,159
People's Court thing. 
When a crime breaks out, all the

801
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:56,920
cute girls shout. 
Get the good looking guy episode

802
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,840
episode of Boy Meets World for 
those that know funny. 

803
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,200
No, Yep. 
So yes, we meet Detective Eric 

804
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,680
Matthews and he is picking up 
his son from what seems to be a 

805
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,080
security office in like a mall, 
a dock. 

806
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,160
I love this. 
Like where are we? 

807
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,880
I love this, I love this 
disheveled over over too too big

808
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,960
a suit on Donnie Wahlberg to be 
like, man, we we really care 

809
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,400
about this guy. 
He smokes at 9:00 in the 

810
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,880
morning. 
I'm. 

811
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,680
Like he's such a traditional 
cop. 

812
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,080
Doesn't even do his tie up 
anymore. 

813
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,280
He's just given up. 
Yeah, this, this is the guy. 

814
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,480
Women who care. 
About a coffee cup with no lid. 

815
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,200
I don't know why that drives me 
insane. 

816
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:32,960
Everything's around coffee. 
Like that? 

817
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,720
No, no, he's no, no. 
And that's the point. 

818
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:37,080
Like, yeah, shoveled. 
Women who care about him. 

819
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,960
He has like a fucking Donald 
Trump tie down to his crotch. 

820
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,280
It's so long it's not even 
pulled up. 

821
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,480
It's the thickest tie on the 
planet also. 

822
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,520
He looks like the disheveled cop
that was that that's in 

823
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Sopranos. 
Which by the way, I do want to 

824
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,080
bring in bring a point to this 
movie. 

825
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:02,960
Chris Moltisanti in The Sopranos
is watching Saw two in the 

826
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,240
series, and that's when he 
starts getting the ideas of 

827
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:10,640
making a mafia ghost movie 
called The Cleaver with a lot of

828
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,200
gore, just like Saw. 
So he pulled it from that Saw 

829
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,560
franchise. 
They talk about Saw a lot in 

830
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,760
that series because he's writing
the movie and he's watching this

831
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,360
movie in it, and I thought that 
was pretty cool. 

832
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,760
That is really cool, I actually 
didn't know there was an overlap

833
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,160
there. 
I don't know why I assumed 

834
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,080
Sopranos wasn't on, but that was
its peak so that makes sense. 

835
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,680
That's funny. 
So he's picking up his son from 

836
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,840
stealing at the dock. 
What was he doing stealing from 

837
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,400
boats at the dock? 
Is that what we? 

838
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,960
I must say I don't know. 
What was he doing? 

839
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,680
The docks, weren't they? 
He was being a bad boy. 

840
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,280
Yeah, he was I. 
Think he was meeting up with the

841
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,440
Saggins gang? 
No, no, no, no. 

842
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,640
He's shooting Saggins gang into 
a boat. 

843
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,720
I. 
Think he was meeting up with the

844
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,120
Saggins gang. 
The Saggins. 

845
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:51,920
I think he was playing in a 
heist. 

846
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,200
But Eric's son Danny really 
doesn't want anything to do with

847
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,000
him, and he makes that beyond 
clear. 

848
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,920
And at the end he's like, I 
think I'm just going to go back 

849
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,600
to mom's place. 
And Eric is like the go then. 

850
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,880
The quintessential How old are 
you? 

851
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,640
Yeah. 
Relax. 

852
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,600
So Eric is really sad when he 
gets home and he's like, Danny, 

853
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,960
if you could like give me a call
back. 

854
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,880
I like I'm, I'm sorry. 
I just want to know that you're 

855
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,480
home. 
OK. 

856
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,880
And like, tell mom I said hi. 
I have I have a random question.

857
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,720
Who's your favorite Wahlberg? 
I mean acting wise where I could

858
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,360
like separate art. 
From art, you're not allowed to 

859
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,720
separate. 
Art from artist. 

860
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Nope, I don't have a favorite 
Wahlberg. 

861
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,320
OK, Mark, point blank. 
I don't like. 

862
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,080
Donnie. 
Donnie's good, I say. 

863
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,520
It's just about the same to me. 
I like. 

864
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,520
New kids on the block, bro. 
I know. 

865
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,040
Marky, Mark. 
What did I do? 

866
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,240
I say. 
Crime on his fucking. 

867
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,000
That's why I didn't say Marky 
Mark. 

868
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,920
Yeah. 
I was like, Oh yeah. 

869
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,280
It's a little bit of a racist we
were talking. 

870
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,080
About that, she's like, I don't 
think there's a New Kids on the 

871
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Block or something. 
I was like, Oh no, he was. 

872
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,200
And then I started singing like 
New Kids on the Block suck a 

873
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,040
lot. 
Boy girl bands make me sick or 

874
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,760
whatever. 
And then she's like, that is 

875
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,600
just them mentioning his name 
and the band. 

876
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Yeah, Jerry doesn't know any new
kids. 

877
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,040
I sang. 
I. 

878
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,040
Found that out. 
No, once you play a song I'll 

879
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,000
like, I know it, right? 
But like the famous ones, I'll 

880
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,080
know. 
But like I sang that because 

881
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,120
that's the only thing that I 
remember. 

882
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,360
Is that Eminem's part where he 
says that in one of his songs? 

883
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,440
I know exactly what you're 
talking about. 

884
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,880
Well, yeah, he's he was also 
singing the LFO New Kids on the 

885
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,040
Black Hat a bunch. 
Yeah. 

886
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,440
You're like you're singing LFO 
and I was. 

887
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,200
Like that has. 
That's not the same. 

888
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,120
Band I was. 
Like can I, can I play you? 

889
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:39,520
Can I play you a snippet? 
Yeah, let's play some Donnie. 

890
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,640
Oh man, this takes me back off 
the school club. 

891
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,000
Yeah, Oh my. 
Gosh, yeah, this isn't like 

892
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,040
every. 
Time the right stuff. 

893
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,920
Yeah, they both. 
They both have like a lot of 

894
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520
hits that are. 
One of them's a racist. 

895
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,280
I said hit. 
Socks. 

896
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,080
I know, but what? 
Marky, Mark. 

897
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,280
Was a racist. 
Marky Mark was not in New Kids 

898
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,840
on the Block when they got 
famous. 

899
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,320
He was in the band for a brief 
time. 

900
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,000
But he was in. 
Yeah, he was in the band. 

901
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,120
Like if you look at the bands 
like Wiki or whatever, he was in

902
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,480
the band for like a year. 
But then. 

903
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,440
He I didn't know that. 
Interesting. 

904
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,040
OK, back to the movie. 
Yeah, just one is and 1 isn't. 

905
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,880
Oh yeah, I'm sorry. 
I found another New Kids song. 

906
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,160
I'm going to be blasted New 
Kids. 

907
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Oh my gosh. 
Baby. 

908
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,880
Yeah, I probably know that. 
One I had the I had the I had 

909
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,320
the 8 track. 
Fuck you, I'm old. 

910
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,640
Eight track No, you're. 
Not you're right, I'm not. 

911
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,240
I'm forever young like Edward 
Easy. 

912
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,000
We're going to get fucking cease
and desist. 

913
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,600
OK, so. 
I want to be. 

914
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,840
Sorry, we'll just call him up. 
Who? 

915
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,040
Edward. 
We don't spit the out. 

916
00:39:51,440 --> 00:40:00,600
No copyright. 
Anyway, so so Eric is waiting 

917
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,840
for a hopeful phone call from 
his son, but unfortunately he 

918
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,280
just gets a call to a crime 
scene. 

919
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,000
And so here we go, Eric. 
Here we go. 

920
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,520
Eric meets up with Detective 
Carey, who she was in the first 

921
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,320
movie to was. 
She. 

922
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,280
Wait. 
I think she was. 

923
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,840
Moved. 
Where the fuck is Shanice back? 

924
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Check that she's definitely in 
the third one. 

925
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,040
Yes, yes, I know she she becomes
like a long standing part of the

926
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,040
porn franchise. 
When does she get her head 

927
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,800
chopped off that she definitely 
dies? 

928
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,840
Right. 
That's the one in the bar, 

929
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,240
right? 
No. 

930
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,960
No, you're gonna wait for. 
That one's the prequel, so got 

931
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,720
it. 
Got it, got it. 

932
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,880
None of those people come back 
because they die. 

933
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,240
They did. 
But we hey. 

934
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Dad. 
We. 

935
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,800
We. 
Met Detective Carrie who was 

936
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,280
giving also she almost has that 
like Carrie that Felicity hair 

937
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,280
anyway. 
Yes, she has that. 

938
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,600
Her name is. 
Dean X-Files hair. 

939
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Carrie, Detective Carrie. 
Oh, but the actress? 

940
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,400
Oh, oh, I don't know. 
She's in Starship Troopers. 

941
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,000
Oh shit. 
Yeah. 

942
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,840
So she kind of gives us the 411 
on what we've got here. 

943
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,240
So they find the guy that was in
our opening death mask scene and

944
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:19,000
they find that there was a 
puzzle piece taken out of his 

945
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,720
skin. 
So this is reminiscent. 

946
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,640
They kind of have an idea of who
they might be looking for. 

947
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,520
Cause wait, the cops know about 
wait, do the cops know about 

948
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,880
Jigsaw yet? 
OK, so yeah, they might have an 

949
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,320
idea of who they're looking for,
so they reveal. 

950
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,640
So Eric's like really not 
interested in any of this. 

951
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,760
He's like I. 
Don't care, I have two shits 

952
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,040
about what's going on. 
But they look over and they see 

953
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,920
the writing on the wall. 
It says look closer. 

954
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,360
Detective Matthews, which I 
thought was pretty fucking 

955
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,120
funny, but they misspelled it. 
Matt MATHE. 

956
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,560
Oh yeah, he's missing AT. 
Yeah, so it's his surname or 

957
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,080
something, they said. 
Matt Hughes? 

958
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:56,880
No, I think he just spelled it 
wrong. 

959
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,440
No, that's how he spells it. 
Oh, does he spell it with 1 T? 

960
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,560
Yes, she's in all of them up 
until 4:00. 

961
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,960
Damn. 
OK. 

962
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,680
So not to Detective Carrie? 
I I mean Shanice ain't doing 

963
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,040
shit so. 
But Eric could like not care 

964
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,000
less about this, even though his
name is literally written on the

965
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,600
wall. 
Well. 

966
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,240
He's got no idea, has he? 
He's got too much on his plate 

967
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,840
to care. 
He's got a a criminal son or a 

968
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,200
son on the way to a life of 
criminality. 

969
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,320
No, he spells it with two TS. 
So then, yeah. 

970
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Pretty sure it's misspelled. 
Misspelled it. 

971
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,280
I wonder if that's on purpose, 
if that means something. 

972
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,600
It says it's. 
Oh yeah, 'cause the other T is 

973
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,640
his son. 
What I read it was says it's 

974
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,200
it's a surname. 
Obviously. 

975
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,200
A message written on the 
ceiling. 

976
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,360
Look closer. 
Detective Matthews misspells 

977
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,360
Eric Matthews surname. 
Yeah, that's just saying it just

978
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,600
misspells. 
His last name, that's what I'm 

979
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,080
saying. 
They they just misspelled it. 

980
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,440
It's just funny that. 
He's Oh, there wasn't like a 

981
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,600
bigger, there was no. 
I'm just saying Bigger 

982
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,040
misspelled it. 
I thought that was funny. 

983
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,960
Fucking outside the production 
team fucked up. 

984
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,240
Looks looks like it. 
Yeah, I'm like you. 

985
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:02,360
Had one job 1. 
Job. 

986
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,960
Damn it, Bobby. 
But yeah, Ari's got a lot on his

987
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,280
plate. 
Divorce his caseload 'cause he's

988
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,280
a paper pusher. 
He's just too much. 

989
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,320
He don't have he. 
He ain't got time for that. 

990
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,440
Yeah, nobody got time for that 
MAT. 

991
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,680
Yeah, it's spelled on Wikipedia 
with two TS. 

992
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,160
Sorry. 
SO2TS Detective Carrie walks out

993
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,480
and she's like, I thought you 
were a real detective. 

994
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Why do these scenes remind me of
a Forgetting Sarah Marshall 

995
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,560
scene where he's like his penis 
was cut off and put in the 

996
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,120
freezer or found behind the 
freezer or whatever? 

997
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:36,040
Talk about Dixicle, remember? 
No. 

998
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Forgetting Sarah Marshall when 
it was. 

999
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,600
Oh yes, sorry. 
Alec Baldwin was like. 

1000
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:42,760
Oh, in the yeah, yeah, yeah, 
yeah. 

1001
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,880
His Dick, his penis was found 
underneath the freezer. 

1002
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,720
It's a talk about Dixicle. 
Yeah, but the way they talk 

1003
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:51,120
reminds me of like that. 
Like. 

1004
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:55,120
Because it's that stereotypical 
drama, the way the cops are men 

1005
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,880
to be. 
CSI type. 

1006
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,760
Shit, dammit, Matthews, you're 
unhinged. 

1007
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,160
The mayor's on my ass and blah 
blah blah. 

1008
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,960
I picked a bad day to quit 
smoking. 

1009
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,680
Look, see, look. 
He's smoking. 

1010
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,600
You just fucking called it. 
So there's also continued 

1011
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,360
conversation between Detective 
Carrie and Eric. 

1012
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,840
And it is implied because they 
they removed some scenes and 

1013
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,720
some dialogue about this, but it
is implied that at some point 

1014
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,520
Eric and Carrie had an affair, 
which is why he's getting a 

1015
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,920
divorce, which is why his wife 
got primary custody and why 

1016
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,920
Danny doesn't like him. 
But they cut out most of that 

1017
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,160
information. 
And so we get like a subtle 

1018
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,400
thing of like you've Carrie says
something of like you already 

1019
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,920
lost your son once. 
So they mention it, but they 

1020
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,000
don't mention it. 
They don't go into details. 

1021
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,800
But I feel like that would have 
been more important because. 

1022
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,560
For why though? 
Yeah, Eric is obviously such a 

1023
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,160
big focal point for Jigsaw in 
this movie that it's like, show 

1024
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,880
me all of his impurities and 
flaws so I can understand why 

1025
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,600
the fuck he's here. 
But. 

1026
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,280
It's kind of so fast, by the 
way, this whole beginning part. 

1027
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Well this is this movie is like 
an hour long. 

1028
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,720
I know, but 90 minutes they said
let's go. 

1029
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,320
Of him having a dream and it 
says look closer and he found 

1030
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,000
the thing and it's just kind of 
like super set up. 

1031
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,680
It caught Porsche off guard. 
She's like, well, how did they 

1032
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,160
get there so fast? 
I was like he had a dream. 

1033
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,600
Yeah, no, literally. 
He literally was whirlwind, 

1034
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, so Eric doesn't want to 

1035
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,720
work on this case, but he has a 
a very vivid dream that night 

1036
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,160
about a steel company warehouse 
and he believes that is where 

1037
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,680
Jigsaw and his next trap is 
going to be. 

1038
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,240
So in the following morning, he 
calls out the SWAT and they all 

1039
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:43,360
head over. 
But yeah, this, I had looked 

1040
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,880
down to make a note, looked back
up and I was like, how did we 

1041
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,200
get here? 
It's I mean it moves fast. 

1042
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,920
It does. 
You can see the whole cast 

1043
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,120
though and crew in the 
reflection of the giant steel 

1044
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,920
truck and it makes me laugh 
every time. 

1045
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,800
Oh. 
My God, yeah. 

1046
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,360
Because you can see the shadows 
of it when the when the truck 

1047
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,040
pulls up on the back right the 
first one, the first big ass 

1048
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,560
truck that pulls around that 
corner makes like a right hand 

1049
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,560
turn. 
Which to me, just seeing the 

1050
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,440
cat, the the shadow of it, you 
can see it even on the side of 

1051
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,800
the car. 
Yeah, like those cat there's 

1052
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,200
like you see the boom mics and 
shit on the big truck. 

1053
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,800
Whoops, Brilliant. 
Yeah, I love stuff like that 

1054
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,880
actually too. 
Right there. 

1055
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,440
See him right there in the 
reflection? 

1056
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,240
Click it out. 
Standing there. 

1057
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,760
Because now you can like 
Scrabble that away, but it's fun

1058
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,360
back in the day to spot the wire
hanging from the guy. 

1059
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,360
Yes, and like the the boom, my 
guy in the background being 

1060
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,880
like, fuck, I really, I'm in 
this scene and I really didn't 

1061
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,600
be, you know. 
Yeah, someone wants to know. 

1062
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,360
It's around 11 minutes and the 
reflection on the big slot truck

1063
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,800
so you could see the people 
holding boom. 

1064
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Thank you. 
Thank you. 

1065
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,320
Yeah, anyway. 
I think Jerry and I have 

1066
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,480
mentioned it a few times, but 
one of our favorite like 

1067
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,880
childhood shows a smart guy and 
I swear to God you can see that 

1068
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,360
boom mic in almost every single 
episode of that shit. 

1069
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,640
'S up of the screen. 
It's just like always right 

1070
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,320
there. 
And I'm like, why? 

1071
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,320
Why is this? 
Why did no one catch this? 

1072
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,200
Yeah, it's like almost every 
episode. 

1073
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,880
Clear like clearly there. 
Like right here. 

1074
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Like, yeah. 
I think one time we saw an arm 

1075
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,280
or director like standing there 
in the bus arm in the corner 

1076
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,600
while I he's that guy and he's 
just like there with a hat 

1077
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,200
standing in the corner in the 
dark. 

1078
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,520
He's like no one told him get 
out of the shot. 

1079
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,040
One of the. 
See you. 

1080
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:22,080
One of my favorite ones that 
comes to mind is Batman Forever 

1081
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,720
2 faced and his two faced and 
his two lady friends. 

1082
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,720
Jack What or Tommy Lee? 
Jones, Tommy Lee Jones. 

1083
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,240
He's walking into like his lair 
and if you look real close you 

1084
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:40,880
can see Jim Carrey in the 
background as the full Riddler 

1085
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,240
costume just waiting to cut. 
Like waiting for his cue? 

1086
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:43,880
No. 
Way. 

1087
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,040
He's just he's standing there 
with the cane clear as day. 

1088
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,400
And they because your your, your
eye focus is on Tommy Lee 

1089
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,760
because they're walking toward 
the camera. 

1090
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,360
But if you look here, you can 
see Jim Carrey. 

1091
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,480
That's so funny. 
And of course like 2-2 maybe. 

1092
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,240
That. 
One no, that's that's the next 

1093
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:04,120
one OK, but like 2 minutes later
he comes in you know, because 

1094
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,040
he's Tommy says the line and he 
pops up, but you can see him 

1095
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,920
like they definitely could have 
seen him. 

1096
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,440
Just waiting. 
Yeah, what are you doing here, 

1097
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,040
Mr. Green Man? 
Who's that guy in the green over

1098
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:14,280
there? 
Who? 

1099
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,440
Fucks that guy. 
Who's that guy in the green? 

1100
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,920
So sure enough, they walk into 
this steel mill and with very 

1101
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,840
much ease, they find John 
immediately. 

1102
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,840
Look closer. 
He wouldn't have done this on 

1103
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,040
purpose. 
I mean, he would have done this 

1104
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,840
on purpose. 
Wait, he would have or wouldn't 

1105
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,080
have done this? 
Now that I've seen this movie, 

1106
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,920
unexpected. 
Now that I've seen this movie a 

1107
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,280
fuck ton of times, I realize I'm
like, Oh yeah, they walked right

1108
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,240
in. 
They walk right into a trap and 

1109
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:44,920
none of them sees this. 
Yeah. 

1110
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,720
And you guys are you? 
Guys, this is this is. 

1111
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,800
What you do? 
But this is my point, this is my

1112
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,880
point. 
They've already dealt with 

1113
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,440
Jigsaw, they already know who he
is, they know that he sets up 

1114
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,280
tracks. 
He doesn't murder people, they 

1115
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,520
murder themselves. 
If you just find him just 

1116
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,640
chilling, don't you already 
know? 

1117
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,680
Like we're already too. 
Stake out the place. 

1118
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,000
Shouldn't you kind of like 
proceed with caution? 

1119
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,320
Agreed. 
Keep like, keep looking in other

1120
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,480
other places just in case like 
some other shit's going. 

1121
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,400
Down I think you're pointing out
exactly what I was about to say 

1122
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,400
is these from the beginning, the
police officers were dumb. 

1123
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:19,200
They're using a batter ram on a 
door that pulls out in the very 

1124
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:20,720
once again. 
It's like one of those people, 

1125
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,040
people are pushing on the door 
and. 

1126
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,760
The door opens and they're using
a battering ram on it and 

1127
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,160
somehow it opens like they they 
hit a like a battering ram. 

1128
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,320
It's right after the scene you 
see them pull up with a 

1129
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,640
reflection on it around 12 
minutes in and they go and they 

1130
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,520
batter and ram the door on the 
outside of the facility but the 

1131
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,200
doors opens outward. 
Love so. 

1132
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,240
So that was for a movie effect. 
Yes, stupid. 

1133
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,880
Dude, So they find John and you 
know they're arresting him or 

1134
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,080
whatever and then he says some 
ominous stuff. 

1135
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,280
He's like, you might not want to
do. 

1136
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,920
You might not want to arrest me 
just yet because you might want 

1137
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,520
to go save your son first. 
Bum, bum, bum. 

1138
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,760
So we find out that Danny, 
Eric's son. 

1139
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Daniel. 
Dan Daniel back with. 

1140
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,560
The Jigsaw games. 
You know, you know, no one ever 

1141
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,560
did that to me. 
I'm so surprised. 

1142
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,240
I think we've done it in the 
first season, no. 

1143
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,760
No, no, no, I know. 
But like when it was a thing in 

1144
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,440
the amount of people around me, 
no one ever did it. 

1145
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,680
No one did it. 
No one ever did it. 

1146
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,800
That well, I'm going to start 
doing it everywhere. 

1147
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,560
Yeah, I'm like, you should have 
never said that to us. 

1148
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,280
The worst? 
Damn, Daniel. 

1149
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,560
So Danny is stuck in the house 
with a ragtag bunch and. 

1150
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,640
Ragtag. 
And they have to escape this 

1151
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,880
House of horrors that is also 
slowly killing them with some 

1152
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,080
type of poison that's being 
pumped through the walls, right?

1153
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,160
Cut with the fence, yeah. 
The vents or they were like or 

1154
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,120
or was it like a needle prick in
advance? 

1155
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,400
I didn't really. 
Understand they've been 

1156
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,560
breathing it in since they were 
kidnapped. 

1157
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,960
Got it. 
Since they were in that room, it

1158
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,280
started. 
Well. 

1159
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,520
And I know we're jumping the gun
a little bit, so I don't. 

1160
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,160
I mean, you should have already 
watched this before listening to

1161
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,200
this podcast. 
So yeah, we'll talk about it 

1162
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,800
more when we get there. 
But Amanda isn't drugged, so how

1163
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,360
is she the only one not 
affected? 

1164
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,400
What do you mean? 
So we can talk about it more 

1165
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,040
when we get to the end of. 
It wake up. 

1166
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,360
No, she's drugged. 
No, she's not. 

1167
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,400
She's the only person in the 
house that never coughs. 

1168
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,640
Never coughs. 
Blood. 

1169
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,440
Well, that. 
Means so that's why I'm like, is

1170
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,120
it being pumped through the 
house or is it something that's 

1171
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,600
in them? 
Like were they shot with a? 

1172
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,800
OK, so you're thinking now that 
Jigsaw was just like basically 

1173
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,440
lying and saying that it was 
coming through the vent to give 

1174
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,920
the illusion that Amanda is 
part? 

1175
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,320
Of a victim, yes, correct. 
That's what I'm saying that's. 

1176
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,840
What I want you. 
I'd probably go with that one 

1177
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,680
then because if she's not 
coughing and it is pumped 

1178
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,280
through then there's no reason 
why she wouldn't be. 

1179
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,000
I don't think she was asleep at 
all. 

1180
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,800
I think she was listening that 
whole time. 

1181
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:56,840
Oh no. 
She was never asleep. 

1182
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,520
She was never. 
Asleep. 

1183
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,200
She just came in through the 
door, didn't she? 

1184
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,200
I mean like. 
She just plants herself there, 

1185
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:02,800
you know? 
Yeah, no, like I'm saying she 

1186
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,000
was laying there like he did in 
the first one, but just 

1187
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,880
listening. 
And when everyone else woke up 

1188
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,960
and she heard everyone what they
were doing, she goes. 

1189
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,720
Yeah. 
I was just wondering, do you 

1190
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,120
think that they're pumping more 
of the poison into the air 

1191
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,880
system because Amanda never gets
affected with that? 

1192
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,120
No, I think. 
No, I don't. 

1193
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,720
Think so. 
It's not being pumped in, it's 

1194
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,520
just something that was shot. 
It's just a fog machine or 

1195
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,720
something. 
It's a fuck. 

1196
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,120
Like I don't think he's pumping 
any. 

1197
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,800
He's just saying it and it's 
like doing a placebo effect. 

1198
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,640
Yeah, got it. 
It's a ruse that makes sense, 

1199
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:39,680
so, And Eric basically needs to 
find Danny before he gets all 

1200
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,240
the toxic fumes within his body 
because it'll start to make him 

1201
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:47,600
bleed out from every orifice. 
That's what I wanted John to do 

1202
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,240
after delivering that 
information. 

1203
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,640
Like why wasn't there a big evil
laugh? 

1204
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,640
Well, he's he's. 
Bleed out of every orifice like 

1205
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,040
that's. 
Such a you know what I'm saying?

1206
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:58,920
Just try to do a laugh and then 
be like. 

1207
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:09,840
The cancer. 
Why, why, why oh why has he got 

1208
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,640
this like bad guy Darth Sidious 
robot? 

1209
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,880
Why is he wearing a? 
Why has he got a costume? 

1210
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,240
Oh my God, he does look like 
that guy from Star Wars. 

1211
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:19,320
And we've got to kind of give 
him. 

1212
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,440
What's his name? 
The Emperor. 

1213
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,200
The Emperor? 
He does look like the Emperor. 

1214
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,560
But why has he got a costume? 
Why is he wearing the robe? 

1215
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,320
Because he's not. 
Because. 

1216
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,200
It's Halloween, Daniel. 
God. 

1217
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,960
Damn, Daniel. 
Not then. 

1218
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,760
Because if you remember, it 
hides a lot of things, like in 

1219
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,520
the first one with Danny Glover.
Yeah, but he's got no reason to 

1220
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,400
be dressed like that because he 
does fuck all for the movie. 

1221
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,120
Yes. 
So why is he wearing the Jigsaw 

1222
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,960
costume? 
Sorry, I keep doing. 

1223
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,280
That because that's. 
Not so that hopefully people can

1224
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,560
understand, yeah. 
No, he's not Jigsaw though. 

1225
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,240
Like he's he's never. 
He even says I didn't coin that 

1226
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:54,720
name. 
No, no, no, no. 

1227
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:55,840
That's not my point. 
No, I know your. 

1228
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,720
Point, but he's he's like taking
on the moniker of a bad guy, the

1229
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:02,160
quintessential bad guy by 
wearing a bad guy costume. 

1230
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,720
But didn't he wear that in the 
beginning? 

1231
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,560
Yeah, No, no, not in the first 
one. 

1232
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,680
First movie. 
Yeah, remember. 

1233
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,480
Only when he came. 
Only Glover's character and that

1234
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,200
one dude gets shot in the head. 
Oh, when he's trying to escape, 

1235
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,720
Yeah, he's. 
Wearing the robe and he's. 

1236
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,400
It's just like it's. 
Running down. 

1237
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,120
But he was in the middle of 
doing jigsaw stuff in this one. 

1238
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,240
It's like he clearly is too. 
Jigsawing out. 

1239
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,320
I yeah, he's not Jigsaw, he's 
just chilling. 

1240
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,280
I expect it to come out that the
cloak is like laid in with some 

1241
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,280
kind of medicine for John. 
Kramer, John Kramer. 

1242
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,840
I think. 
Kramerang out right. 

1243
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,040
Now, yeah, I, I wanted it to 
come out that like his jacket 

1244
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,800
that he's wearing or his hoodie,
cloak or whatever is like 

1245
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,240
helping him with his cancer 
treatment. 

1246
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:42,440
That would like disguise the 
fact that he's wearing, not 

1247
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,960
that. 
Cramer, I just want to be clear.

1248
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,760
No, no, I know. 
That's why I stopped, Yeah. 

1249
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,600
He really does look. 
Like, yeah, why is he? 

1250
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,240
Why is he villain dressed where 
he pulls the hood up? 

1251
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:55,200
It zips all the way up into one 
of those lizard costumes with 

1252
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,840
the lizard jackets. 
Yeah, he almost could be the ice

1253
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,880
pick dude from I Know What You 
Did Last Summer. 

1254
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,840
He's like 2 inches from a 
slicker. 

1255
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,520
Could be. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1256
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,720
Well, I mean, it's very look, 
it's just, it's a silly point, 

1257
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,240
but it's. 
It's a good point though, I get 

1258
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,160
it. 
But it is a robe, isn't it? 

1259
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,600
It's not a hoodie, right? 
It's a robe. 

1260
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,600
It's got to be a robe. 
So just so you guys kind of have

1261
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,760
an image in your mind of what 
we're looking at. 

1262
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,880
Basically we have the main steel
company, this, there's a bunch 

1263
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,960
of monitors set up where we're 
watching the room with all the 

1264
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,200
people in it, the room where it 
happens. 

1265
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:34,640
And we've got to keep John, kind
of we've got to keep John around

1266
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,360
because we got to save Danny. 
So now we're going to zoom into 

1267
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,480
the room. 
So now we're in our house. 

1268
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,360
Great transition, great 
transition. 

1269
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,480
I actually really love that, 
that transition where we just 

1270
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,560
bleed right into the TV and we 
get into our ragtag crew. 

1271
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,040
I am not going to introduce 
everyone because if I'm being 

1272
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,600
real honest, I didn't pick up on
everyone's name, but you know, 

1273
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,680
we'll make there's a couple 
people here. 

1274
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,200
That's really important to point
out. 

1275
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,240
First, I would like to point out
a character, Laura, who is 

1276
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:07,600
played by Beverly Mitchell from 
fucking 7th Heaven. 

1277
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,160
Let me tell you, that was a big 
poll as to why I watched this 

1278
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,920
movie because I was a big 7th 
Heaven fan as a kid. 

1279
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:16,200
Go on. 
Which one's that? 

1280
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,440
She is the blonde one. 
She is one of the characters 

1281
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,280
that we don't get a full back 
story on. 

1282
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,200
But I have done some research so
I will be filling in those gaps 

1283
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,280
later on. 
Please don't let me forget. 

1284
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,760
But yeah, Laura's here. 
Beverly Mitchell, I guess, does 

1285
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,440
quite I She's into horror 
movies. 

1286
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,360
She goes to conventions. 
So if you ever want to meet her,

1287
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,680
like, she goes to these horror 
conventions, and she's done some

1288
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,280
other horror movies after this. 
I don't know. 

1289
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,520
I thought this was wild. 
She just always played a very 

1290
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,720
safe, nice, sweet character. 
And it was cool to see her, 

1291
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,960
like, get all dirty and stuff 
trying to break out. 

1292
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,640
Yeah. 
And by the way, 7th Heaven was 

1293
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,760
still on air at the time that 
this came out. 

1294
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,960
I thought she did this 
afterwards to, like, break free.

1295
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,080
But no, this was in the middle 
of making that other show, one 

1296
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,560
other character that I really 
need you guys to notice. 

1297
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:06,880
His name is Jonas and he is a 
second timer on our podcast. 

1298
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,760
Do you know what movie we saw 
him in first? 

1299
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,560
My life is Jonas. 
Definitely that one. 

1300
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,280
Sound like a Weezer. 
Oh, oh shit. 

1301
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,040
Oh my God. 
I'm wearing a Weezer shirt. 

1302
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,800
Jerry should remember this 
'cause I brought it up to him 

1303
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,760
last night. 
So I'm really looking at you and

1304
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,680
I really need you to not go on 
IMDb and figure out no, he goes.

1305
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,320
I I I remember. 
I'm not. 

1306
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,200
I'm just trying to figure out 
which one Jonas is and then not 

1307
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:32,800
to be able. 
To tell. 

1308
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,640
Oh, that's Jonas. 
He's he's the. 

1309
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,880
Oh, both. 
Showgirls, they're saying. 

1310
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,040
Say less bad. 
Just say. 

1311
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,000
You just have to tell me which 
one Jonas was. 

1312
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,720
Jonas and one of my other 
favorite movies he's also in. 

1313
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Show goes to speed. 
Speed. 

1314
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:47,920
That's right, he's the guy in 
the car. 

1315
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,560
The guy in the in the green 
jaggies. 

1316
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,240
Ohh yeah, yeah. 
I also this is a Jag. 

1317
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,680
Man, I also pointed out to Jerry
he's in a couple a few seasons 

1318
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,200
of Sons of Anarchy. 
Yes or lost too, right? 

1319
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,360
No, no, he's not. 
He's. 

1320
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,640
Not he's not Harold Pinner Row. 
Harold and Kumar. 

1321
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,320
Harold Pinter Room. 
But what colored jacket does he 

1322
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,040
get hit second time on the pod? 
Oh shit, does he get something? 

1323
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,360
Green. 
Green I think. 

1324
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,920
I'll figure it out, but welcome 
back. 

1325
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,000
But welcome back Glenn Plummer. 
It's nice to see you when. 

1326
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Welcome back. 
And then there's some other 

1327
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,040
people here too, but not 
everyone necessarily gets a 

1328
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,040
name. 
I'll kind of introduce them as 

1329
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,760
they're important to the 
storyline. 

1330
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,200
One of the most important is 
Amanda. 

1331
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,480
One of the other important ones 
is a fellow named Xavier, and he

1332
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,520
is our resident angry guy. 
OK, he's just the angry guy. 

1333
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:42,680
He is very much the hot head of 
the house, the one that does not

1334
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,880
think as we have and will point 
out, you know, randomly just 

1335
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,760
trying to open doors and. 
The idiot. 

1336
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,360
Throwing, yeah. 
Throwing keys away and chucking 

1337
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,600
people around, yeah. 
And. 

1338
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,560
Being a general menace to 
society. 

1339
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,680
Yeah. 
So the our final really 

1340
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,960
important member, as Daniel had 
mentioned is Amanda. 

1341
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,360
Amanda has a similar waking up. 
She is face down on the floor. 

1342
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,080
This is a thing from last movie,
so that is supposed to be she is

1343
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,480
remember. 
She is the survivor of the first

1344
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,960
trap. 
The very first one. 

1345
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,520
The first one that the cops know
about. 

1346
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,800
First one, yeah. 
She escaped, yes, because she 

1347
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,840
was the first escapee. 
She's the reverse banner. 

1348
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,840
She's the only one to survive. 
The reverse. 

1349
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,720
Winner. 
Yeah. 

1350
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,160
Other than the Doctor the Kai's 
leg off. 

1351
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,520
Yeah, I'm like, there's a few 
survivors because as the movies 

1352
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,600
will proceed on, we start to 
meet like there's a survivors 

1353
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,760
group of people who have 
survived Jigsaw traps. 

1354
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,560
So that's a later thing, though 
I realize that's in like, yeah, 

1355
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,680
like 4 or 5 or maybe something 
like that. 

1356
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,840
It's in one of the other 
sequels. 

1357
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,280
Not we're not quite there yet. 
But yes, Amanda survived the 

1358
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:57,080
reverse bear trap, and she is 
very thankful to Jigsaw for what

1359
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,520
he did for her. 
That's an important note to 

1360
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,160
mention. 
OK, OK, put that in. 

1361
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,120
Pocket. 
Whatever Could be a back pocket,

1362
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,360
could be a front pocket. 
Could be a side cargo pocket, 

1363
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,200
what could be a hoodie pocket. 
Yeah, it could be a Velcro 

1364
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,640
pocket. 
Could be a Velcro pocket. 

1365
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:20,280
This feels very like frozen 
shrimp unfrozen shrimp, shrimp 

1366
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,960
scampi shrimp burger. 
On the Bobby shrimp, on the. 

1367
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,360
Pocket lemon shrimp. 
Pepper shrimp. 

1368
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,960
Orange shrimp. 
Grapefruit shrimp. 

1369
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,360
Chocolate shrimp. 
Chocolate grapefruit shrimp is. 

1370
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,080
Disgusting dog food shrimp. 
Cat Caribou, crusted shrimp, 

1371
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,560
Blue milk shrimp. 
Blue cheese shrimp. 

1372
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,800
Amanda does kettle. 
Corn shrimp. 

1373
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,440
Amanda does a bunch of things 
that to me seem very obvious. 

1374
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,200
And I feel like, I feel like if 
I was paying attention, I'd be 

1375
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,320
like, girl, you up to something.
Yeah, but. 

1376
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,360
How do you know the wall was 
there? 

1377
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,120
How do you know the wall was 
there? 

1378
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,800
Because I'm sure you've got 
eyes, but how do you know there 

1379
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,760
was a hole in the? 
Wall No, she finds this 

1380
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,480
recording device and tape almost
immediately. 

1381
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,200
And I know that I know that 
she's a survivor, but like, 

1382
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,960
girl, you ain't even trying to 
be subtle. 

1383
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,320
Like there's subtlety is not in 
your dictionary. 

1384
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,520
But whenever Amanda wakes up, 
she almost immediately finds the

1385
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,720
tape recorder and plays the 
clues for the room. 

1386
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,760
Basically what they have to 
escape the house, yes. 

1387
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:22,880
Before the. 
Escape. 

1388
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,200
But yeah, it's an escape. 
Room. 

1389
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,280
The door opens. 
In three hours, they'll be dead 

1390
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,760
in two. 
Oh wait, say that again. 

1391
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,120
The door opens automatically in 
three. 

1392
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,160
But the poison. 
And but the poison will. 

1393
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,400
Surging through their bodies. 
Surging through your veins right

1394
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,680
now, there will be blood. 
Yes, and she scowls. 

1395
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,400
The fucking wood. 
The fireplace. 

1396
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,720
Yeah, well, I mean, she's doing 
everything that you should do by

1397
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,680
panicking, but not panicking, 
but kind of feeling around the 

1398
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:51,680
room, Right. 
Because they're not. 

1399
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,840
They're not in a darkened room 
like the first one. 

1400
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,920
It's not as dire. 
No. 

1401
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,120
Well, it's pretty dire. 
I also feel like. 

1402
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,800
Microwave shrimp. 
I personally would feel a little

1403
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,080
bit better. 
I'm like, well, at least I'm not

1404
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,000
going to die alone. 
I got all these people around 

1405
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,120
me, so that's good. 
No, unless I kill them all. 

1406
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,520
Unless I kill them all, that's 
true. 

1407
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:18,560
Caesar salad shrimp. 
So we get to the point where 

1408
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,280
they find that little key and it
literally tells you what not to 

1409
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,520
do. 
Yeah, it literally says don't 

1410
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,720
use me on the door. 
And they're like Lizzy, use it 

1411
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,200
on the door. 
And I'm like these guys. 

1412
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,240
Are. 
Savior says. 

1413
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,240
They they literally did that. 
Let's go do it the. 

1414
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,040
Door they do that and then OK so
here's the funny part of this 

1415
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,440
part he. 
Put us never look in a keyhole. 

1416
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,640
Just put the keyhole in it. 
Yeah, and that one dude is the 

1417
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,600
first dude. 
The expendable dude. 

1418
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,600
Yeah, the expendable. 
Dude it. 

1419
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,560
Doesn't matter. 
It doesn't matter, Sylvester 

1420
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,760
Stallone. 
Expendable. 

1421
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,080
No, that's a great movie. 
Is that Gus? 

1422
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,520
No. 
No, it's not Gus. 

1423
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,160
Gus's later. 
No, it is Gus. 

1424
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,720
Yeah, Gus is our first None. 
None, none, none. 

1425
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,440
You done. 
It doesn't matter anymore 

1426
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:02,320
because he's dead. 
But he goes and turns the key. 

1427
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,000
And if you look at the gun, you 
know how when you if you fire a 

1428
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,120
revolver, the hammer has to hit 
for the pin to fire the bullet. 

1429
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,840
When he turns the key, you see 
the hammer going back, but the 

1430
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,760
gun fires, then the hammer goes 
forward. 

1431
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,520
Another prop mess up there. 
Yeah. 

1432
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:20,960
They didn't have the biggest 
budget you. 

1433
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,280
See it as as the cameras panning
it fires before the thing and 

1434
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,760
then the hammer hits and it. 
It's just that. 

1435
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,760
It's not. 
It's not as close as it could 

1436
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:29,600
have been the. 
Effect. 

1437
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,560
Yeah, I noticed that too. 
I also I thought that was funny.

1438
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,440
Sidebar mistake, but when does 
when does Jigsaw the puppet come

1439
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,760
out? 
Have we already seen him, Billy?

1440
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,320
Billy. 
His name is Billy. 

1441
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,080
I'm. 
Sorry Billy, pay the price. 

1442
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,240
Yeah, he'll wheel up on you and 
shoot with a like Taser. 

1443
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,520
Where's my money, Smokey? 
Are you smoking? 

1444
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,920
I don't want to have to kill 
you, Smokey. 

1445
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,160
Where's? 
My money, Smokey. 

1446
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,880
He's in the house with the swat 
of while these. 

1447
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,920
Guys, the Billy in the ice cream
truck. 

1448
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,000
While these guys are losing it, 
I'm gonna tell you where he he 

1449
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,520
showed up in the house with the 
SWAT team. 

1450
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:07,960
He's at. 
He's at the top of the stairs. 

1451
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,240
Oh, that's right. 
He comes up and goes fuck you. 

1452
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,960
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention 
that we we lost. 

1453
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,880
We lost a couple. 
We had a couple casualties. 

1454
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,080
With the SWAT team, there's 
always a couple casualties. 

1455
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,280
But the one, the one part, that 
one one was pretty brutal. 

1456
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,440
The guy is. 
Screaming for like. 10 minutes, 

1457
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,680
he dropped. 
Yeah, someone. 

1458
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,000
Steps on of his misery, A 
staircase that drops and then 

1459
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,640
boards come out and and they 
don't break just his knees, they

1460
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,200
break his fucking femur or his 
shins. 

1461
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,600
Tibula Tibula shins in half. 
Tibula and tibula. 

1462
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:39,880
Falls. 
Back literally like. 

1463
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,960
Onto four other crew members. 
There's definitely. 

1464
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,960
A fence electrocutes all of them
that are on the fence. 

1465
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,240
Yeah, they're fine. 
They died. 

1466
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,160
He's in pain. 
He's in pain, his shin. 

1467
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,200
He's when everyone's walking 
around. 

1468
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,440
I know, I noticed that they're. 
Like no one helping him. 

1469
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,200
No one's like medic. 
Medic needed on floor 1. 

1470
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,840
They just literally just like. 
Somebody. 

1471
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,840
Yeah, we got, we got to clean up
on aisle 4. 

1472
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:13,520
The worst, The worst. 
I mean, there is no sense of 

1473
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,360
what do you call it, like a 
unit. 

1474
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,000
You know, it's just like, no. 
Are you OK, Dave? 

1475
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,720
No. 
Cool. 

1476
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,840
We're gonna go on. 
We'll come back for you. 

1477
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,000
Actually, no unit. 
Actually, no, we won't because 

1478
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,160
we're just gonna walk over you 
like we didn't hear that. 

1479
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,160
You're screaming in pain. 
Poor guy, I felt so bad for him 

1480
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,440
and also I was like stop the 
wailing though Yeah like I get 

1481
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,360
it, you're in pain but like shut
the fuck I'm. 

1482
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,800
Walking, buying, telling him 
yeah, screaming. 

1483
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,200
Yeah, no, they and they left him
screaming there for the longest 

1484
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,040
time. 
I'm just saying. 

1485
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,520
What they think of helping them 
is going to give their presence 

1486
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,800
away. 
That he already knows you're 

1487
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,960
there. 
It's it's funny that they didn't

1488
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,520
even kind of like write into the
script like someone on their 

1489
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,960
walkie, be in the background 
even. 

1490
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,800
Like it didn't even have to be 
the the main that guy, the black

1491
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,320
guy didn't have to be him 
because he's obviously kind of 

1492
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,640
like a sub main character. 
If it was even one of the guys 

1493
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,760
behind him on the radio slightly
been like medic needed they 

1494
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,560
could have done that, but no. 
And saved them. 

1495
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,280
Yeah, but no. 
Also another side note for 

1496
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,120
things that we will talk about 
more later. 

1497
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:20,520
So they're just assuming we're 
watching a live feed through 

1498
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,160
these videos. 
Why is no one looking for how to

1499
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,960
get into that house? 
They are the whole time they're 

1500
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,320
they're no, they're trying to 
find, yeah, they're trying to 

1501
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,200
find out where the signals 
coming from. 

1502
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,160
Wouldn't they be able to tell 
that it was a recording? 

1503
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,760
There's no, there's no piece of 
like equipment that would have 

1504
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,520
told them there. 
There would be no signal, so 

1505
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:47,400
there's nothing to trace except 
to place the signal that would. 

1506
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,320
He did it and placed it 
somewhere else. 

1507
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,000
So the VHS is actually playing 
in a different spot, so it would

1508
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,200
take them to a different area. 
Which is why they're. 

1509
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,360
Working on going to to a 
another. 

1510
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,760
Trap They're they're working. 
On OK, so John, John's was 

1511
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,920
working smarter, not harder. 
Yes, yeah, he's working the 

1512
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,160
room. 
And when they finally get to 

1513
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,040
that house that you know is in 
the end, it's it's, that's where

1514
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,960
the signal's coming from and 
it's not the location. 

1515
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,040
Yeah, and he doesn't kill those 
cops when they get there. 

1516
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,960
No, they they're just so he is. 
Well, they're lost. 

1517
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,880
On a murder room. 
We'll come back to that. 

1518
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,160
No, we'll come back to that 
later. 

1519
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,840
He's. 
Not is he? 

1520
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,400
I don't. 
I don't I need. 

1521
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,920
To he doesn't directly kill 
anyone they kill. 

1522
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:25,920
Themselves. 
Daniel what? 

1523
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,040
I'm not standing up for Jigsaw. 
Jigsaw rights, baby. 

1524
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:30,440
What about? 
Who? 

1525
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,000
Which one thing, right? 
He's giving them stuff. 

1526
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,680
What if they overdose? 
Yeah, you're a murderer. 

1527
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,320
Yeah, you're a murderer. 
Yeah. 

1528
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,320
All right. 
So this is just learning 

1529
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,160
lessons. 
So thank you. 

1530
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,360
Jigsaw is a Jigsaw is a serial 
killer. 

1531
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,240
He's just. 
Also, why don't they try to 

1532
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,840
break that fucking gun off the 
door, see if there's any more 

1533
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,120
bullets in it. 
No they do, don't they? 

1534
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,920
Or am I wrong? 
Is that in the other one? 

1535
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:54,680
Don't they grab? 
The Oh yeah, they know. 

1536
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:55,680
They do grab it. 
They try. 

1537
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:56,640
He. 
Grabs it at the end. 

1538
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,320
He grabs it and tries to like 
take the gun off. 

1539
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,000
It doesn't work and I don't know
why. 

1540
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,760
Oh, because it's jigsawed on 
there. 

1541
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,600
Yeah. 
Gorilla Glue. 

1542
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,880
Gorilla Glue. 
So John wants some alone time 

1543
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,560
with Eric, but just to, you 
know, to help him get get get to

1544
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,680
Danny, I guess. 
And so he agrees and he shoes 

1545
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,200
the cops away so that they can 
sit one-on-one. 

1546
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,160
More on that later. 
Back at the house, the gang is 

1547
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,960
finally able to break free of 
the room. 

1548
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,760
Yay. 
We got out of the room and now 

1549
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,680
it's time to explore the house. 
By the way, everyone just woke 

1550
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,479
up here. 
Nobody remembers how they got 

1551
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,520
here. 
And we get some backstories, but

1552
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,080
not everyone's Which. 
Kind of bums me out. 

1553
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,560
Yeah, it's kind of frustrating. 
There are deleted scenes that do

1554
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:48,880
carry like what each person was 
there for and why and how they 

1555
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,520
have cause what we'll come to 
find out is they all have a 

1556
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,279
connection to Detective 
Matthews. 

1557
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,120
All of those things were cut for
time. 

1558
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,080
So I have some of that 
information for you guys. 

1559
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,000
Just let me know if you want to 
hear it as we go along. 

1560
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,720
But yeah, basically there, 
there's more of a back story. 

1561
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:09,319
They just didn't get to it. 
But they do start to realize 

1562
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:11,680
that some of them have spent 
time in jail together. 

1563
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,800
So they're starting to put 
together a little bit of a 

1564
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,359
puzzle, but they never are able 
to fully put it together because

1565
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,600
realistically they don't all 
want to work together. 

1566
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,439
They don't all get to find out 
why they're in that room. 

1567
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,960
Some of them die before that, 
don't they? 

1568
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:28,760
Yeah, yeah. 
Before that, one of them dies 

1569
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,840
before he even leaves the room. 
Oh yeah. 

1570
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,720
I mean, yeah, they don't end up 
finding out. 

1571
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,439
Some of them don't end. 
Up some of them don't end up 

1572
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,800
finding out actually Xavier is 
one of the only ones that kind 

1573
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,800
of puts all the pieces together 
but just in the most aggressive 

1574
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,760
way. 
But we'll see how that turns out

1575
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,000
for him later. 
So Eric sits with John back in 

1576
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:56,120
the room and he reveals John 
reveals that he knows a great 

1577
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,400
deal about Eric's past and his 
past police work. 

1578
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:05,040
And this is where we find out 
that Eric has not always been 

1579
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,320
following the book. 
He's not a great. 

1580
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,680
Guy Naughty, naughty cop. 
He's a naughty cop, one might 

1581
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:11,920
say. 
Naughty. 

1582
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,280
He's dirty. 
Planting evidence. 

1583
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:18,120
He's a bad guy. 
Strong manhandling people to get

1584
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,880
confessions, you know, you're 
our standard stuff. 

1585
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,960
And even though like we're 
talking about all this like, OK,

1586
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:32,360
I guess my question is like, 
John thinks that Eric needs to 

1587
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:37,120
be punished, but punishing Eric,
he uses his son and I'm like, 

1588
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,320
but where is the lesson here? 
Does anybody else feel that way?

1589
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,920
What do you what do you mean? 
Like most of his like saw trap 

1590
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,720
lessons make more sense. 
It's like you didn't take 

1591
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,120
advantage of the life that you 
were living. 

1592
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,080
So I'm going to use what you've 
been doing against yourself to 

1593
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,680
kill you. 
And I don't know if this. 

1594
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,200
That's all of his, that's all 
his, that's all he's trying to 

1595
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,080
do, isn't it? 
But like, there's, there's, 

1596
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,560
there's better ways, like 
instead of kidnapping you and 

1597
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,360
putting a reverse bear trap on 
your face and kind of giving you

1598
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,120
a lesson about how the fact that
you shouldn't be a junkie, maybe

1599
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,200
take him to get ice cream and 
talk about it, you know? 

1600
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:12,880
For real. 
Like, I'm not really under. 

1601
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,760
I'm like, so you stole this 
guy's son and this is supposed 

1602
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,080
to teach him to do better police
work? 

1603
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,240
Yeah, well. 
Like what? 

1604
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,400
OK in watching this again, this 
is one of those ones that's 

1605
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:32,520
really frustrating because John 
literally tells Matthews what to

1606
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:40,360
do and he's so hell bent on 
being this disgraced, divorced, 

1607
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,560
discredited cop. 
I just used 3DS discredited cop 

1608
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:51,120
that he his anger is like 
blindsiding him into not 

1609
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,480
listening to what John is saying
because he's literally giving 

1610
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:55,240
him the keys to. 
If he's sat because the. 

1611
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,680
Safe was just there. 
Nice. 

1612
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:57,760
Yeah. 
Oh yeah, that's right. 

1613
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,280
If he sat there and was had a 
nice chat with doesn't. 

1614
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,760
Even have to be nice. 
He just has to listen. 

1615
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,120
Don't say if he was nice, just 
sat there and chilled. 

1616
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,680
Gave it patience. 
He's a bit of a Dick. 

1617
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,640
Nothing would have happened. 
He's a bit of a Dick. 

1618
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,880
Like he, you know, I know John's
not. 

1619
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,360
Also, John's not Mr. Rogers but 
like Eric treats him like proper

1620
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,120
shit. 
What if, what if, What if? 

1621
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,400
Lieutenant Eric. 
Dan. 

1622
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:26,360
Lieutenant Diane, what if Eric 
never remembered the logo of the

1623
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,320
factory? 
Yeah. 

1624
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,880
Oh yeah, How would we get here? 
You're making a lot of 

1625
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,000
assumptions. 
About this dude, exactly. 

1626
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,440
There there is. 
Yeah, because John, John's 

1627
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:37,640
obviously planned this out to 
the tee to make it work, right. 

1628
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,120
So the the recording. 
John and Amanda. 

1629
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,680
Yeah. 
Do they plan the entire thing 

1630
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:46,480
together? 
Yes. 

1631
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,840
Yeah, that's what we're. 
Supposed to do so, Yeah. 

1632
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,600
If he hadn't have had that 
realization, what was John going

1633
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,040
to be? 
Was this going to would? 

1634
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,440
Would Amanda have done 
something? 

1635
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:58,720
Would she even have been? 
There would have been a 

1636
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,080
contingency, right? 
Yeah, It was like, was Amanda 

1637
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,560
going to then drug Detective 
Eric? 

1638
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,280
And that's how we would have 
gotten started. 

1639
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,320
Like how? 
Yeah, there had to have been a 

1640
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,880
a, a, a. 
Hint left. 

1641
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,080
Yeah, like for him Plan B, if 
you will. 

1642
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:17,480
Yes. 
So back in the House of Horrors,

1643
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,640
Laura actually finds a door to 
the basement. 

1644
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,320
So they end up going down and 
exploring in there. 

1645
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,760
And this is where we get to our 
first trap. 

1646
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,880
Also, this was something that I 
always thought was weird about 

1647
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:33,520
this movie is like in other 
installments, we always have 

1648
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,040
like, this trap is meant for 
this person, this trap's meant 

1649
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,880
for that person. 
This house has that feature, but

1650
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,520
we don't get to all the traps. 
So. 

1651
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,680
So we don't get each individual 
storyline again. 

1652
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,360
I feel like that's a missed. 
Opportunity. 

1653
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,520
We get huge opportunity. 
Missed. 

1654
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,680
I feel like this one, This one 
is specifically for OB right? 

1655
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,960
Yes, yes, this first, this first
trap in the house that's meant 

1656
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,760
for a a single person, so to 
speak. 

1657
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,400
The rest, the rest of them are 
random, no. 

1658
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,640
Not the rest of them. 
There's one or two more where it

1659
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,120
was for a specific person. 
But someone else does it. 

1660
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,840
Yeah. 
And I'll talk about them as they

1661
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,080
come up. 
There's a couple more that are 

1662
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,680
like that, OK. 
And there are some traps that 

1663
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,720
are just for the house in 
general, but typically, yeah, 

1664
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,200
they are supposed to all have an
individual trap that they have 

1665
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,200
to work through. 
Certainly the tape made it seem 

1666
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:31,120
like that. 
Yes and so this trap for OB is 

1667
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,000
fucked. 
No, I always I, I Fast forward 

1668
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,200
this one, there's something. 
About Jerry kept trying to warn 

1669
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,040
me about it, and I was like, I 
don't think that's this movie. 

1670
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,360
I think that's later on. 
And no, it was. 

1671
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,840
Like it was this one. 
And also, I do want to say one 

1672
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,520
thing. 
He had a lot of faith that he 

1673
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,320
was gonna jam his head through 
that window. 

1674
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,800
Yeah, they would have never had 
the combination to the safe. 

1675
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,120
Just a little bit of a back 
story for those that are 

1676
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,960
listening. 
I know it's like a what is this 

1677
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,520
thing that he climbs into? 
What is that? 

1678
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,520
Called furnace, furnace, 
furnace. 

1679
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,720
Furnace. 
I couldn't think of the name. 

1680
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:07,360
What the fuck? 
Honestly. 

1681
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,000
Honestly it looks like one of 
those ones you put a casket in. 

1682
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,640
Yeah, like for. 
Oh, cremation. 

1683
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,840
Cremation thing. 
Thank you. 

1684
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,200
Oh, it's a funeral house. 
Could have been creepy. 

1685
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,000
So yeah, he has to like climb 
into this furnace thing to get 

1686
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,480
some of the antidote and get out
before the fire. 

1687
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,400
Old loaf. 
Takes him and he he, he don't 

1688
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:27,280
make it. 
Nope. 

1689
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,040
He dead. 
Does he take one of the 

1690
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,160
antidotes? 
Huh. 

1691
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,480
Does he take one of the 
antidotes or do they both burn 

1692
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:36,800
up? 
11 He pulls and it just breaks 

1693
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,320
and that's what starts the fire 
and then the other one he holds 

1694
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:45,120
in his hand but it's like. 
I think it broke up, doesn't it,

1695
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,080
He? 
Broke or left it in there? 

1696
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,440
Basically there was 2 antidotes.
There you go. 

1697
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:51,640
And there was a way to turn it 
off. 

1698
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,400
He just needed to look for the 
devil if he listened. 

1699
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,160
Look for the devil inside. 
The devil inside, That's right. 

1700
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,960
And then if you go in there, the
first before I crawled in there,

1701
01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:03,440
I would have looked around. 
Oh, devil inside a red knob. 

1702
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,400
OK, OK, go ahead and shut the 
door. 

1703
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:06,760
OK, I'm going to pull this 
thing. 

1704
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:07,640
I know something. 
Well, you see. 

1705
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,000
When he when he pulls that, that
shuts the door and starts it. 

1706
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,520
He crawls to the end right and 
pulls it and starts it. 

1707
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,920
What I would do is look around 
before and red knob. 

1708
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,000
All right, cool, pull the thing.
I know it's going to shut the 

1709
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,680
door. 
I know something's going to 

1710
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,400
start and it quickly turned a 
knob. 

1711
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,640
I won. 
For real, it really was like 

1712
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,680
that trap. 
Before the door opens, inject 

1713
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,360
myself. 
Fuck all of y'all. 

1714
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:32,560
Well, I've got two. 
I've got two, yeah. 

1715
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:33,680
I'll give you one. 
Yeah, I'll. 

1716
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,600
Take somebody one, but you know 
what I'm going to do is I'm 

1717
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,480
going to pick who gets it. 
I'm not going to let you guys 

1718
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:41,960
fight over a big guy ain't 
getting it. 

1719
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,480
I'm stabbing someone like the 
kid or the girl. 

1720
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,720
I'm getting someone I I want to.
Let or maybe even the not to. 

1721
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,880
Let them fight over. 
It not Laura but the other one 

1722
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,520
because her symptoms look like 
they're much quicker 

1723
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,200
progressing. 
Fast, Beverly Mitchell. 

1724
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,160
Yeah, I always wondered if. 
Her character Bevmo. 

1725
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,280
I always wondered if her 
character was like stolen first 

1726
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,280
so she sat in the house like the
longest and maybe that's why she

1727
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,000
gets taken out the. 
Fastest. 

1728
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,200
Just out of like, she's her 
memory. 

1729
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,480
All at once, her memory is the 
first one to come back and 

1730
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:14,880
remember who kidnapped her, 
right? 

1731
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,120
Yes. 
Which? 

1732
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,840
Was Oh, and she points out 
before OB passed away, before OB

1733
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,480
passed away, before OB died, she
did mention you. 

1734
01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:26,040
You're the guy that took me in 
the middle of the night and. 

1735
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,600
She's the only one that we get 
that that flashback for, yeah. 

1736
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,040
Correct. 
And we find out that he took, I 

1737
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,160
think he took more than just 
Laura. 

1738
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,640
I think he took a few of them, 
if not all of them. 

1739
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,360
Or it's made to imply. 
That if he just took the time 

1740
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:43,160
with the flashlight she found on
the wall to look into that thing

1741
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,600
and it just pisses me off. 
Yeah, this one was so easy to 

1742
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,720
get out of. 
It really didn't have to go down

1743
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,360
like that. 
And this is, yeah, this is 

1744
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,360
pretty, but look. 
This is my point. 

1745
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,600
So the first one is so easy, 
right? 

1746
01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:57,360
You know that you're in this 
House of horrors. 

1747
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,880
If the other one's got 
resistance, would you really tug

1748
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:03,040
it? 
Well, he's going to know that 

1749
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,160
you didn't pass it if you don't.
No, I know, but. 

1750
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,680
So what I would do is go get a 
rope, tie it to it, walk out of 

1751
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,360
it. 
Dang, pull it now you're 

1752
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,480
thinking MacGyver that shit. 
Have it just set on fire, but 

1753
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,360
reach in real quick and turn off
the knob and then when it's 

1754
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:19,960
cools down go in there and pull 
it out. 

1755
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,360
Yeah, but not of it being there 
the whole time. 

1756
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,360
But if I'm like, oh, so this 
needle is attached to a a chain 

1757
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,400
and every time I pull this 
chain. 

1758
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,520
That door looks like it the. 
Door swings. 

1759
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,920
Also they had gone ran around to
that other side quicker. 

1760
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,040
They probably could have pulled 
him out even if it was through 

1761
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,440
that small ass glass window. 
Is that him looking at it and 

1762
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:39,960
realizing that he's fucked? 
Yeah. 

1763
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,160
So I'm going to not speed run, 
but I'm going to speed run some 

1764
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,600
of like the talking points. 
That kills and all that stuff 

1765
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:47,120
that's. 
Kind of. 

1766
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,280
So John and Eric are still 
talking, but the conversation is

1767
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,160
really going nowhere and you can
kind of tell from like an 

1768
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,360
audience point of view that Eric
is being tested by John. 

1769
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:01,160
Meanwhile, Danny, back in the 
house, talks odds with Amanda. 

1770
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,120
He knows that Amanda has 
survived one of these trap 

1771
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,280
things before, and so he's just 
trying to ask her, like, do you 

1772
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,040
think that we could all make it 
out like you did it by yourself?

1773
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,120
Like there's got to be better. 
You know better than anyone 

1774
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,760
here. 
He hints that his dad will have 

1775
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,800
the whole city out looking for 
him to which Amanda like looks 

1776
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,640
at him and definitely seems 
knowing about something but just

1777
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,040
goes on with what she was doing 
which is like looking for 

1778
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,720
antidote or whatever moving 
forward. 

1779
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,920
Sorry I got lost in my where I 
was at. 

1780
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,960
Don't be sorry, just be better. 
Oh my God that's so annoying. 

1781
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:45,960
I know, I know. 
That's what. 

1782
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:51,160
I say, so there's a latch door 
and Amanda tells Xavier finds 

1783
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,560
this latch door and he's trying 
to open it and it clearly 

1784
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,840
doesn't want to open, which 
means it's a fucking trap my 

1785
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,280
dude. 
But this guy, this guy does not 

1786
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:03,040
listen. 
So he forces open the door. 

1787
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,240
And they find a key or no, they 
find a key to open the door. 

1788
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,680
And this is where we have the 
Pit of Needles scene. 

1789
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,200
This one I this is the. 
One where I I looked away the 

1790
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,520
whole time I came. 
I know, I know the behind the 

1791
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,560
scenes about it. 
I think it's amazing that they 

1792
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,800
did 120,000 syringes and then 
funnily enough someone 

1793
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,400
accidentally dropped four real 
ones. 

1794
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,680
They. 
Were Porsche. 

1795
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,080
They were literally searching 
for a needle in a haystack. 4 

1796
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,760
needles in a haystack. 
They that must have pissed off. 

1797
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,880
I wouldn't have jumped I if I 
was Shawnee Smith, who ends up 

1798
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,720
getting pushed into this pit of 
needles. 

1799
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,280
The moment I heard about that, 
I'd be like, Nah, I'm not doing 

1800
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,800
that scene no more. 
You better find somebody. 

1801
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,360
Else there's definitely. 
Something in that pit. 

1802
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,480
There's definitely something 
about it that even though I know

1803
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,560
they were rubber tipped. 
It's still. 

1804
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,760
It's the I think. 
It's like I'm looking at it and 

1805
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,720
I'm thinking like, no, there's 
no way. 

1806
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,000
No. 
What if one of them. 

1807
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,240
Right. 
And I know, I know they weren't.

1808
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:02,320
But it's it's I can't get past. 
Four days, 120,000 needles out, 

1809
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,960
rubber in right. 
There's something about that 

1810
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,800
needle pit that like really 
that's this is the, this is one 

1811
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,480
of those ones where I can't do. 
Cringes. 

1812
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,000
Your body it proper because the 
it's all sound it's. 

1813
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,160
All and the. 
Sweeping of them it's the. 

1814
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,280
Sweeping. 
It's all the sound of the glass 

1815
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:25,920
breaking and the the the the the
way the sound of like plays with

1816
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,480
you in this. 
Yeah, that like the clinks. 

1817
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,040
Yeah. 
And like the of like the glass 

1818
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,040
hitting it. 
Basically, they did a good job. 

1819
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,560
Basically, you know this one's 
probably the one of the worst 

1820
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,600
ones. 
Like most terrifying of all of 

1821
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,280
the traps. 
And it's also definitely for a 

1822
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,960
moment. 
When when they do actually, 

1823
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,040
finally, she finds the key, 
yeah, and pulls. 

1824
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,120
Them out, Yeah. 
And she's on the ground and 

1825
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,760
they're pulling the knee. 
He's the what's his little the 

1826
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,680
boys pulling the needles out. 
Damn, Daniel. 

1827
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,120
Yeah, that's a animatronic arm 
they had. 

1828
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,440
And with the fake, with the fake
was moving and stuff when he was

1829
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:57,680
like pulling the needles out of 
her arm when she was on the 

1830
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:58,440
ground. 
Oh, really? 

1831
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,040
And crying. 
Yeah, that's animatronic arm 

1832
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,360
that she had. 
Also would like to point out I 

1833
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,680
don't think they listen to a 
tape in this room. 

1834
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:07,920
They don't. 
But this? 

1835
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,680
This needle pit is actually 
meant for Jonas. 

1836
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,000
Is it really? 
Amanda got pushed in because 

1837
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,880
Xavier is a piece of shit. 
It was for doing it. 

1838
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,120
I thought it was for Xavier it 
because because he gives people 

1839
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,440
steroids. 
Oh. 

1840
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,160
I'm pretty sure it was for for 
Xavier. 

1841
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,000
We just literally. 
Thought yeah, I literally just 

1842
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:29,920
learned. 
We thought it was three 

1843
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,240
different people. 
I thought it was for Amanda 

1844
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,360
because she was a junkie 
previously so it would make. 

1845
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,720
Sense it would make sense, but 
she doesn't. 

1846
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,440
Actually, I don't know if she 
has one. 

1847
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:38,080
It is. 
No, I don't think it's for her. 

1848
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,920
It's definitely not for her. 
She just got pushed. 

1849
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,280
Yeah, she just gets pushed, 
yeah. 

1850
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,440
And that sucks, I thought. 
Jonas or Xavier? 

1851
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:45,600
Oh, it's Xavier. 
Yeah. 

1852
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,600
Oh OK, so it is saviors. 
OK. 

1853
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,440
And he just decided to push her 
in instead. 

1854
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:53,080
That's why he's a roid rager is 
because I think he sells roids. 

1855
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,360
That would be. 
People at the gym and destroys 

1856
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:56,600
them. 
OK, well, thank you for pointing

1857
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,720
that out. 
I know this might sound silly to

1858
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,520
the listeners that we are 
watching, talking about it and 

1859
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:03,920
that you guys watched it last 
night. 

1860
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,960
I watched it this morning, but 
we still miss things. 

1861
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:06,640
Yeah. 
Absolutely. 

1862
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,680
I want to play a game that 
you've been playing, like as a 

1863
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,000
drug dealer. 
That's right. 

1864
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,960
Oh OK, that does make. 
Sense Does Gus get a room then? 

1865
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:17,240
You force your customers. 
By answering. 

1866
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,520
This room, you know, he said. 
You force your customers to get 

1867
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:21,960
better. 
It's like he's a he. 

1868
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,640
He's selling at the gym. 
The razors for the wrist, that's

1869
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:31,200
the one for Jonas, because he 
was stealing money from a 

1870
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,040
company. 
He was embezzling money. 

1871
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,400
And so hand in the cookie jar. 
Gotcha. 

1872
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,720
That's his. 
Got it. 

1873
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,000
So then that takes care of wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 

1874
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:44,800
wait. 
Maybe I don't need carry on. 

1875
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,120
I just I've got this kind of. 
Like, no, it's been a monologue.

1876
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,520
There's there are some traps for
people that we just. 

1877
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:50,640
And then there are general 
traps. 

1878
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,040
You said that OK, they don't get
there. 

1879
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:54,520
They don't. 
We don't like we. 

1880
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,800
Never get to see Laura's because
Laura just dies. 

1881
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,200
And then we just. 
We just never. 

1882
01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:59,760
See the trap? 
Yeah, or get your big butt 

1883
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,240
inside that guy. 
We don't see his because he gets

1884
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,440
killed by Xavier. 
Basically. 

1885
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,400
Yeah, which by the way, it's 
kind of a pretty funny that 

1886
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,960
false moving and when he's 
supposed to be dead in one of 

1887
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,160
the scenes. 
Is he moving? 

1888
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,160
Yeah, like when the Amanda and. 
Terry is always watching for 

1889
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,200
that shit. 
Look at it. 

1890
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,920
Dig a breath, take a. 
Breath, Amanda and the boy come 

1891
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,480
back in and they find out he's 
still dead. 

1892
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:22,640
He's dead on the ground with the
bat in his head or whatever. 

1893
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,040
Jonas Yeah. 
Yeah, when he's on the ground. 

1894
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,080
He's moving. 
Yeah, he's completely like you 

1895
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:28,400
could see him moving. 
He doesn't. 

1896
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,240
He's on the ground, but you can 
see he's not dead. 

1897
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,080
Also side note, the pit of 
needles. 

1898
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,240
They don't. 
Have to spare. 

1899
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,920
They don't get the key to into 
the door in time. 

1900
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:38,840
It's the. 
Only. 

1901
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:43,080
Trap in the whole franchise I 
believe, where no one dies as a 

1902
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,200
result of not of failing. 
But what? 

1903
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,960
What would a What would that 
door do? 

1904
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:48,520
Who knows? 
What does it say? 

1905
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,000
Your door to freedom. 
You can leave. 

1906
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,640
I think maybe. 
I don't remember what the what 

1907
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:58,440
the tape said. 
I this is me knowing Jigsaw. 

1908
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:00,840
If it was Jigsaw, it's probably 
a room to another room. 

1909
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,280
Yeah. 
But once they had that door 

1910
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,080
open, they. 
Would have had another. 

1911
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,440
Trap, bro, You open the door. 
If you see a fucking darker 

1912
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:09,280
room, you're going to walk in. 
I'm going to go around something

1913
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:10,880
and go the other way. 
True. 

1914
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,520
OK. 
But what if? 

1915
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,480
I mean, if it's outside, that's 
pretty obvious too. 

1916
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,520
Which is not, he says. 
This house seems fucking huge. 

1917
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,240
You'll have to find the key 
before your timer run OK. 

1918
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,480
Otherwise, the door. 
Hello Xavier, I want to play a 

1919
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:26,120
game. 
The game I want to play with you

1920
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,920
is very similar to the one 
you've been playing with as a 

1921
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,320
drug dealer. 
The game of offering hope to a 

1922
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,040
desk for desperate a price. 
I think you can agree that the 

1923
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,480
situation is desperate. 
Then he goes on. 

1924
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,600
The price you pay is must crawl 
under the pit, blah blah blah. 

1925
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,480
Timer expires. 
The door in front of you will be

1926
01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:46,440
locked forever. 
You'll have to find the key 

1927
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:49,360
before the timer runs out, blah 
blah blah blah blah blah blah 

1928
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,560
blah. 
But what does he say? 

1929
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:58,320
And then there's no consequence 
for not for failing, it's just 

1930
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,680
the door stays locked. 
Yeah. 

1931
01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:00,440
OK. 
That's it. 

1932
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:01,080
Yeah. 
So you're. 

1933
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,800
Locked in the you're. 
Locked in the house because. 

1934
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,800
So no one knows what no. 
You're not, are you? 

1935
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,480
Because, well, no, you are. 
You'll die anyway. 

1936
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,160
I was thinking that door is 
going to be locked. 

1937
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,240
The main door is going to be. 
On Yeah, as long as you don't 

1938
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,800
want all the doors in the house 
locked, then you're good. 

1939
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,800
But if you lock this one door 
because you had this one 

1940
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,160
failure, it's like, OK, 
whatever. 

1941
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,800
Yeah, but then by the time the 
main door is open. 

1942
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,440
You'll do anyway, he says, if 
you can unlock the door and 

1943
01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:24,320
retrieve the antidote inside 
that room. 

1944
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,200
There you go. 
OK, so then you would have 

1945
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,520
survived? 
I will give you just one hint to

1946
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,040
where that key is. 
It's like finding a needle. 

1947
01:26:34,440 --> 01:26:35,760
I'm still freaking out about 
that. 

1948
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:41,240
So back back in the Hisity 
house, Laura is fading pretty 

1949
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,560
quickly. 
Here she is. 

1950
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:47,440
She is barely hanging on for a 
dear life now while she's on the

1951
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:51,760
floor minutes away from death, 
she points out. 

1952
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,280
Also she says some really 
random, like weird stuff like 

1953
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,320
babbling while she's dying about
like all the people I won't get 

1954
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,280
to talk to. 
And I don't know why she says 

1955
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,320
that. 
I, I don't know if it, it 

1956
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,680
bothered me because obviously 
like I know this actress from 

1957
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,200
another main thing. 
So I'm like, well, what's her 

1958
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:08,600
story? 
So I had to look it up. 

1959
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,080
Laura's a shoplifter. 
OK, so she that's why she was. 

1960
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,320
Also that's why she's here. 
OK but I feel like why would 

1961
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,000
you? 
She's a shoplifter and she got 

1962
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,800
into a saw house. 
Yeah, You would plant evidence 

1963
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,960
on her to get like, because 
that's what Matthews does, 

1964
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:23,440
right? 
Matthew plants evidence on all 

1965
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:25,760
of them. 
But what is did he planted? 

1966
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,080
Oh, maybe he was. 
Oh maybe Daniel and her were 

1967
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,280
like shoplifting and so he sent 
her to jail instead of Daniel 

1968
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:32,400
because he can do shit like 
that. 

1969
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:33,520
She. 
Doesn't look young enough to be 

1970
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,840
Daniel's age though, because 
Daniel looks like he's like in 

1971
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,400
high school and Laura looks like
she's in her 20s. 

1972
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,240
Fair. 
So, I don't know, shoplifting, I

1973
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:42,520
was like, that's her big 
offense. 

1974
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,760
I'm like, all right, whatever. 
I don't fucking know now. 

1975
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,680
Yeah, like what the purpose of? 
What did what? 

1976
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,120
What did she? 
Petty theft. 

1977
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:52,000
Yeah, yes, that's what I'm 
saying. 

1978
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:57,080
Gloss at Forever 21. 
And and Matthews planted a bag 

1979
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,120
of cocaine. 
In. 

1980
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,040
Her forever 21 bags. 
In her forever 21 bags. 

1981
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,240
So when she got stopped by 
security because the alarm went 

1982
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,320
off, they called the cops. 
Yeah. 

1983
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:07,680
And she was arrested and sent to
jail. 

1984
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:08,920
Boom movie. 
Oh my. 

1985
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,480
God, because I'm 20. 
Pounds of ecstasy in her purse. 

1986
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:12,840
And she didn't realize. 
Yeah. 

1987
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,840
She didn't even notice, she just
thought she brought. 

1988
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:16,960
Where did that come from? 
Dumbbells. 

1989
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,520
She was like, I just wanted a 
pair of jeans for tonight. 

1990
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,920
I accidentally brought my 
dumbbells to my. 

1991
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:28,040
So Laura points out an ex that 
marks the spot before passing 

1992
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,040
out again. 
They find behind it's like a 

1993
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,560
picture frame on the wall and 
behind it they find a picture of

1994
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:38,720
Eric and Danny and it says 
father and son on the back. 

1995
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,720
So now everyone's putting 
together. 

1996
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,760
Oh, your detective Eric 
Matthews, son. 

1997
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:48,040
Yes, and we've all been in jail.
The bright stuff. 

1998
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,480
Like that they we've. 
I thought you were making. 

1999
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:51,680
Oh yeah, I thought you're making
a. 

2000
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,160
Confession. 
So they're all putting two and 

2001
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,200
two together and they're like, 
oh, and he and Danny's like he 

2002
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,720
has the same reaction that I was
thinking of. 

2003
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,760
Like I'm just his kid. 
Yeah, what's his? 

2004
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:01,840
Kid, what do I have to do with 
him? 

2005
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,560
Also what were they going to do 
with him like beat him to death 

2006
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,040
or like do they think he has the
anadar? 

2007
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,160
Well, yeah, as revenge for for 
their wrongful arrest. 

2008
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,520
Like I'll kill your son. 
I'm like, come on now. 

2009
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,440
Come on. 
Get it together. 

2010
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,480
Get, come on, what are we doing?
What are we doing, guys? 

2011
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:18,800
What are we doing? 
So they start putting the pieces

2012
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,440
together that his dad set them 
all up. 

2013
01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:24,520
But just as they're starting to 
do that, that's when Laura 

2014
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,440
starts having seizures on the 
ground and my girl dies. 

2015
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,960
My girl dies. 
Dude. 

2016
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,640
In. 
The I was about to be like. 

2017
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,680
That's a different song. 
Oh, wait, wait. 

2018
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,800
Wait when I see y'all. 
Go back to that one. 

2019
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,080
What was that one? 
Dawsons, yeah. 

2020
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,040
Don't. 
Do it. 

2021
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,520
Oh my God. 
I think. 

2022
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,440
That's the more you tell me not 
to do it, the more I want to. 

2023
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:52,000
I know, I think that makes me 
why, like makes me not want to 

2024
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,360
watch it because I think that 
song annoys me just fast. 

2025
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,640
I can just skip the intro, 
right? 

2026
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,200
Yeah, OK. 
Fine, you got the flicks of the 

2027
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,720
Nets right? 
I just found my password. 

2028
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,080
Word or the Lou of the Who's? 
Netflix. 

2029
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:08,640
The flicks of the net. 
Netflix and saw. 

2030
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,200
Oh, sounds painful it. 
Sounds painful. 

2031
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,240
So in another room in the house.
Sorry. 

2032
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,440
There's slight pause for me to 
catch up with my notes. 

2033
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,480
Xavier. 
Xavier, this man, my man. 

2034
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:28,680
Dude, calm down. 
Thank you and I wish someone had

2035
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,000
taken him out before he goes on 
his face. 

2036
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,760
He's so annoying. 
Yeah, because I feel like he's 

2037
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,520
so annoying. 
If Gus had taken out Xavier, 

2038
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:38,200
Gus, Amanda and Danny could have
could have probably completed 

2039
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:39,760
it. 
Yes, I think that too. 

2040
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:40,920
I. 
Mean, obviously. 

2041
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,200
Have you got a movie? 
It's an escape room. 

2042
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:45,720
Yeah, it's a giant escape room. 
You just need smart, calm 

2043
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,320
people. 
And he is neither of. 

2044
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,440
Those muscles. 
Doesn't visit me off as the girl

2045
01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:51,960
that reaches into the next kill 
or whatever which he reaches 

2046
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,760
into the box. 
Well, you can see what's in the 

2047
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:56,680
box. 
Yes you can. 

2048
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:58,240
This. 
This one annoyed. 

2049
01:30:58,240 --> 01:30:59,800
This is. 
This is one of those ones that 

2050
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:00,600
annoys me. 
Why? 

2051
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,800
Because you could go around, 
look in the House of Random 

2052
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:09,520
Items, shove it up there, hold 
it up, ohh, and reach in with 

2053
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,240
one hand. 
You could even do it two hands. 

2054
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:12,320
Oh my God, what do? 
You. 

2055
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,120
Why would you do that? 
Why are you doing that? 

2056
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,000
You just reach up, push it open,
reach in with the other. 

2057
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,760
Hand let me catch the audience 
up so we can describe to them. 

2058
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:20,920
Do one of these guys? 
Yes. 

2059
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:22,800
So, Xavier. 
Box. 

2060
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,720
So Xavier is full of rage. 
He's so upset that he ends up. 

2061
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,200
Hungry. 
He ends up killing Jonas in a 

2062
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,200
rampage with that there is a bat
that he found earlier with 

2063
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:34,720
nails. 
Why do they just have these? 

2064
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:36,720
What's his face? 
Bats just. 

2065
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,240
Like I have Negan bats. 
Yeah, there's. 

2066
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:41,000
Always Negan bats in fucking 
horror movies. 

2067
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,840
I don't get well. 
No, he like set it up like a 

2068
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,160
game, like here. 
Oh, there's a bunch of tools 

2069
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:46,560
here. 
Whatever happens. 

2070
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,240
Also I think this was poor 
planning. 

2071
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,320
Why did they put this Xavier 
dude in this house? 

2072
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,880
He's not he it. 
Some of them die because of his 

2073
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:57,200
hands. 
Like just him. 

2074
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,040
I feel like he is a monster and 
there is no way he was going to 

2075
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,400
feel better about his life after
completing any of these traps. 

2076
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,960
And I think it's a he. 
He was a poor choice as a player

2077
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:09,800
for this game. 
Just saying. 

2078
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:14,280
Anyway, so he kills Jonas, and 
after killing Jonas, this is 

2079
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:18,200
where Xavier realizes that the 
numbers are on the back, are in 

2080
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:22,320
the back of your mind. 
It's painted on the back of 

2081
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,280
everybody's neck. 
His name was Jonas. 

2082
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:30,080
And so he's like, oh, I'm going 
on a rampage now. 

2083
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,800
I'm going to find all the 
numbers I'm going to find. 

2084
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,320
Clonk 1/3. 
Clonk 1. 

2085
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:35,680
What's he going to do when you 
get some more? 

2086
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:37,800
You still got to figure out the 
combination. 

2087
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,560
My favorite is later on when he 
when Amanda's like, how are you 

2088
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,680
gonna get yours? 
But we'll get to that later. 

2089
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,560
Don't don't say it yet. 
We'll save it. 

2090
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,360
It's amazing. 
Also while Xavier is on his 

2091
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,240
rampage he finds the picture of 
Danny and his dad. 

2092
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,360
So now he when he sees Danny 
it's on. 

2093
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:02,480
Meanwhile, Eric and John we're 
talking, and Eric finally 

2094
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:05,560
fucking loses it and we get to 
see the real Detective Eric 

2095
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,440
Matthews. 
He's he throwing John? 

2096
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,400
John is is just like a 
weightless creature, he's just 

2097
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,440
throwing him around the room. 
Honestly this felt this felt 

2098
01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:17,240
good to me 'cause I'm like John 
annoys me. 

2099
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,840
Jigsaw. 
Yeah, but this, this whole thing

2100
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:24,800
annoys me because it's, again, 
if he'd have just listened. 

2101
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,560
Probably could have ended this 
earlier and maybe saved a couple

2102
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,320
lives on the way out. 
No, they were dead, but he could

2103
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,080
have gotten his son back. 
Faster at least. 

2104
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:38,920
Don't press the button. 
See. 

2105
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,760
Look, I mean, this is the thing 
about it. 

2106
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,400
You fuck with Jigsaw, right? 
And then he's like, OK, OK, OK. 

2107
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:44,720
You've beaten me to a bloody 
pulp. 

2108
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,400
I'll just tell you. 
Game over, right? 

2109
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,800
Game over for you, Not for me. 
Yeah. 

2110
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,280
You press that button, you're 
fucked. 

2111
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,120
Yup. 
Should have just sat down and 

2112
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:56,440
listened. 
It's true. 

2113
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,560
So annoying. 
These movies are so annoying. 

2114
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,040
So then we get to the trap that 
Jerry was talking about. 

2115
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,240
I want to give you some space to
really dive into it. 

2116
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,720
But this is where one of the 
girls, and I'm sorry, I forgot, 

2117
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:13,440
I forgot her name, but if you're
curious about her story, she 

2118
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:15,880
she's the one who's going to put
her hands in the thing. 

2119
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:22,120
She is supposed to be a 
prostitute that Detective Eric 

2120
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,240
ends up sleeping. 
With I thought it was some Oh my

2121
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,800
God. 
And he gets demoted as a result.

2122
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:31,400
So he plants cocaine on her and 
that's how she got arrested. 

2123
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,240
So if you wanted her back story,
hers is fucked. 

2124
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,040
Like that was the most I was 
like she doesn't deserve to be 

2125
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,880
in this house. 
I mean, I guess she was a 

2126
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,840
prostitute, whatever. 
Sorry, you're a sex worker and. 

2127
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:43,200
You're. 
Yeah. 

2128
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:43,960
How dare you. 
I'm sorry. 

2129
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:45,360
You're just trying to make a 
living, yeah. 

2130
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:47,960
You know what, after he beats 
him up and he goes down the 

2131
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,280
elevator, he makes the office go
down. 

2132
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:55,320
That shot that they're above is 
the same reused, recycled, 

2133
01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:57,640
recycled shot from Hollow Man 
Love. 

2134
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,880
When they go down the the 
elevator, the same shot Love. 

2135
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:02,440
Yeah. 
I mean it's also from other 

2136
01:35:02,440 --> 01:35:04,200
movies too but just thought it 
was funny. 

2137
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,520
Oh, that's good. 
So yeah, what's her face? 

2138
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:10,680
Puts her her hand. 
So there's this like box, a 

2139
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:14,080
glass box with an antidote 
inside of it. 

2140
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,960
And there are these two what 
seem to be armholes to reach in 

2141
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,960
and grab it, but they are made 
out of metal knives. 

2142
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,960
Yeah, like sharp metal. 
Fun fact, this was actually a 

2143
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,480
working prop. 
It had the things been actually 

2144
01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:30,480
metal they could it that that 
trap would have actually worked.

2145
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,840
Like there's a few traps within 
the movie that fucking work. 

2146
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:39,200
The the iron mask one also 
worked which freaks me the fuck 

2147
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:40,400
out. 
I was like, I can't. 

2148
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,600
Gone off. 
Yeah, yeah, no, there was like a

2149
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,920
mechanism and it did actually, 
No thanks. 

2150
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,720
So anyway, this thing actually 
fucking works. 

2151
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,520
And yeah, you're right. 
If she had just put only one 

2152
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,680
hand in, figured out she 
couldn't get out of it. 

2153
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,640
Put the other hand up, open the 
blades right, It would have 

2154
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,480
opened all four. 
It would have done. 

2155
01:35:59,480 --> 01:36:00,800
It would have done one of these 
jobbies. 

2156
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:02,640
Yep. 
Right and fallen back. 

2157
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,320
Right, so then you could have 
gone or then you would have done

2158
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:06,600
the same thing on the other 
side. 

2159
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,800
And then reach in and then 
scrape the glue off the bottom 

2160
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,800
of it and pull the antidote out.
Yep, don't be a dumb dumb. 

2161
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,760
Yeah, and also, is that a glass 
box or plexiglass? 

2162
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,200
Yeah, 'cause you could have 
taken the bat and beat the shit 

2163
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:19,400
out. 
What is that shit 'cause you 

2164
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,040
could have broken the box, yeah.
That's plexiglass. 

2165
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,040
That's yeah. 
Yeah, what is he building out a 

2166
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,360
bulletproof glass? 
No. 

2167
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,240
That's why the bats there, yeah,
'cause like, it's always look 

2168
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,880
closer, it's always look around,
it's always do this, it's always

2169
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,720
do that. 
And yeah, I'm not gonna go on 

2170
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:36,360
put my hand in that blind box. 
How's it hanging on the wall? 

2171
01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:38,080
Jump on that ship. 
Put it down. 

2172
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:39,080
Yeah. 
Yeah, well, how? 

2173
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,880
What is it Swing? 
That motherfucker around? 

2174
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,920
It was really one of the easiest
traps to get out of and it's. 

2175
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,160
It's also the saddest. 
That's why it's annoying, 

2176
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,640
because it's also one of the 
most kind of just like simple 

2177
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,320
ones that he's done. 
It's literally a Chinese finger 

2178
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:53,320
trap. 
Yeah, literally. 

2179
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:56,680
Yeah. 
So Xavier walks in and she's. 

2180
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,640
If you were thinking that Xavier
might help her, think again. 

2181
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,520
Yeah, he just moves her hair to 
the side, gets her number. 

2182
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,680
He says thanks bitch and then 
loose Yeah and locks the door. 

2183
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,080
Get your big, get your big butt 
back inside. 

2184
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,840
Oh, he's just. 
Shameless plague, Don't listen 

2185
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,560
to Men in Black. 
He just killed what's his name 

2186
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,200
from Showgirls? 
Jonas Yeah. 

2187
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,680
My name. 
At least he had a sloppy fish. 

2188
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,480
I was just, I was just going to 
say I was just going to RIP on 

2189
01:37:23,480 --> 01:37:24,840
that well. 
Sorry. 

2190
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,760
Anyway, thanks for all you 
showed up. 

2191
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,640
OK, I'm done. 
I'm really done this time. 

2192
01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:35,400
So the cops finally catch a 
break and they locate the house.

2193
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,400
So they all start to head over 
there. 

2194
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,240
They even throw Jigsaw into the 
into the van and then away. 

2195
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,600
They locate the signal. 
Yeah, they locate the signal. 

2196
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:44,960
Piece of shit out of him a few 
more times. 

2197
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:50,880
Yes, yeah, he bloody as fuck. 
Also, does he does he make it to

2198
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,320
a whole nother movie? 
Oh, Jigsaw John, yeah. 

2199
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,200
Yeah. 
Yes, at least two, remember. 

2200
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,120
The movies Does he live through?
Quite a few, right? 

2201
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:58,680
Yeah. 
Or does he die in the third one?

2202
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,200
I don't remember I. 
Don't remember but there's one 

2203
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,840
where he's like. 
Three or. 

2204
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,880
Three or something. 
And the doctor, yeah, he's like,

2205
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,000
he's like doing surgery as he's 
awake. 

2206
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,040
I think it's 3. 3. 
Yeah. 

2207
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:17,840
So let's see, where are we at? 
So back in the back in the crack

2208
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:23,720
house, Amanda and Danny find a 
trapdoor to escape from Xavier. 

2209
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:27,400
So Xavier is literally running 
rampant in the house, so Amanda 

2210
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:28,800
and Danny are running away from 
him. 

2211
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,360
They end up finding a trapdoor 
and fall into like another 

2212
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,000
location. 
And guess what location we're 

2213
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,760
at, baby? 
The original, let's say. 

2214
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,680
Wouldn't the police be 
investigating that first place? 

2215
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,960
Yeah, when when there were. 
Already been founded. 

2216
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,440
Oh yeah, 'cause the doctor 
escaped. 

2217
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,400
Yeah. 
Oh yeah, good point I forgot 

2218
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:48,360
about. 
That so it had already been 

2219
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:49,840
investigated. 
They just don't give. 

2220
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:55,360
A shit another point they missed
in the movie, Adam was was 

2221
01:38:57,440 --> 01:39:01,520
handcuffed or leg cuffed on his 
right leg and then or on his 

2222
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:03,960
left leg and it's actually on 
his right leg on his body in 

2223
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,360
this shot. 
So it's on the wrong leg. 

2224
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,720
Oh yeah, they had to recreate 
this entire set from the first 

2225
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,640
movie. 
And correct me if I'm wrong, the

2226
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:17,440
first movie, it started out as a
short like I think they they did

2227
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:19,920
the bear trap thing and that 
went to like some film 

2228
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,680
festivals. 
They got funding and then they 

2229
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,200
made saw one. 
Very, very, very minimal budget,

2230
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,840
massive return. 
Gotcha. 

2231
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,600
So that's why they they wouldn't
just have the set available, 

2232
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,840
because it was probably not. 
No, it was probably. 

2233
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:34,480
Scrapped. 
Yeah. 

2234
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:36,480
Yeah, just some could have been 
in a building that was going to 

2235
01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:38,440
be torn down because then, you 
know, rent would have been 

2236
01:39:38,440 --> 01:39:39,240
cheap. 
Yeah. 

2237
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,000
They had limited amount of days.
This was shot in 25 days. 

2238
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,160
Yeah, which is insane. 
That's so fast. 

2239
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,680
That's so fast. 
Like 6 scenes a day or something

2240
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:48,640
like that. 
That's insane. 

2241
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:53,440
Meanwhile, the cops pull up and 
infiltrate the house, but they 

2242
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:57,600
do not find the dealers. 
Detective Kerry can't see them 

2243
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,360
on the security cameras. 
That's so wild. 

2244
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,200
We'll just have to check back in
on them later. 

2245
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:06,640
That irritates the police work 
in this movie. 

2246
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,400
No, they don't think. 
They don't. 

2247
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,520
They don't police it's. 
Not clocking to them, it's. 

2248
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:15,160
Not clocking to them at all. 
So Amanda leads them to the 

2249
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,560
original set as we were 
mentioning. 

2250
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,120
So we're on the original sauce 
set. 

2251
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,600
We're in that stank ass 
bathroom. 

2252
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:26,880
Fucking disgusting. 
Xavier eventually does find find

2253
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:31,160
them and Amanda is trying to 
negotiate with him to be like, 

2254
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,160
you know, like someone's going 
to need your how are you going 

2255
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,360
to know your number? 
And this is where we get the 

2256
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,840
scene where Xavier is he not 
going? 

2257
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,440
To cut it on the back of. 
His name, that's what I'm 

2258
01:40:40,440 --> 01:40:41,920
saying. 
What if he cut them half the 

2259
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,160
number off and he's like fuck. 
Well, it was it A6 or A9 or a 

2260
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,320
four? 
Yeah, a three. 

2261
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:50,120
Shit. 8 or A9 or A6. 
Amanda told me what the rest of 

2262
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:51,440
this. 
Looks like a comma. 

2263
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:53,040
Yeah, he doesn't know what it 
is. 

2264
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:58,160
Also fucking terrifying. 
A note that I read online is 

2265
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,160
like at the end of it he takes 
it out, looks at it, and he was 

2266
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,080
supposed to just throw. 
The flash in his pocket he puts.

2267
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,040
It in his pocket like a fucking 
weirdo. 

2268
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,280
I was kind of expecting him to 
eat it so that Amanda didn't 

2269
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,680
know the number like. 
I'm not gonna lie, he cut that 

2270
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:15,000
in a perfect square. 
Yeah, how do you do that bro? 

2271
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:16,800
They would not like. 
Precision. 

2272
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:19,080
I'm like, I dare you to try to 
figure that out. 

2273
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:20,880
I don't. 
Have you ever tried tearing A 

2274
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,480
hangnail off? 
It doesn't come off straight 

2275
01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:23,920
like a fucking box cutter. 
I. 

2276
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:25,840
Was like how dare you even see 
that? 

2277
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:26,720
How? 
Dare you bro? 

2278
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,320
Did you see what I thought? 
It was like all the light 

2279
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:30,680
drained out of Daniel's face 
just. 

2280
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,400
The same thing as like a scab, 
it doesn't RIP off. 

2281
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,280
A perfect square. 
That is not the same. 

2282
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,800
You just ruined me dude. 
That is not the same thing. 

2283
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:43,440
I vivid, vivid hangnail when 
that have you seen that? 

2284
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,960
There's that fear that if you 
pull it, it just keeps going. 

2285
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:47,240
Yeah, yeah. 
No. 

2286
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,480
Oh God. 
So that's what you just did to 

2287
01:41:49,480 --> 01:41:52,840
me, Jerry, Damn it. 
Damn dude. 

2288
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,760
So yeah, Xavier has absolutely 
lost his fucking mind. 

2289
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:02,200
But thankfully this whole like 
showcase of machismo has 

2290
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,720
weakened him enough that when he
goes to try to attack Danny, 

2291
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:10,720
Danny's actually able to push 
him off relatively easily and he

2292
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,480
slashes his throat. 
So goodbye fucking X. 

2293
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,160
Or Earl in this case. 
Goodbye Earl. 

2294
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,960
My God, what a terror he was. 
I love how long it takes him to 

2295
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,760
realize. 
So now the cops finally realize 

2296
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:29,200
Oh my God the feed wasn't live 
this whole time. 

2297
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:29,640
Fuck. 
It. 

2298
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:34,240
Well, do it live. 
I was doing this to Jerry 

2299
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:38,840
because this is what they do. 
They do because it says play and

2300
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:43,200
they're like it's. 
Like they're watching a, they're

2301
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,240
watching a tennis match and I'm 
like, can you guys get your shit

2302
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:46,080
together? 
I was. 

2303
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,040
Half expecting one of them to be
like, I think it's a recording. 

2304
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,040
Yeah, but he's like, wait. 
Just like real suddenly so they 

2305
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,200
don't embarrass. 
Themselves. 

2306
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,960
Pile of fucking VAVAVCR. 
S with a tablecloth over and 

2307
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:02,600
he's like. 
Oh. 

2308
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:07,040
VCR on loop. 
I wonder what that does. 

2309
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:10,320
Yeah, idiot. 
I hate it. 

2310
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,560
So all of the police, the SWAT 
team, everyone starts to pull 

2311
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,560
back because obviously this 
shit, there's not, there's not 

2312
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,040
much they can do. 
These people are dead. 

2313
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,000
Eric. 
Eric ends up getting kidnapped 

2314
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:28,280
during this time and this is 
where we get our our big reveal.

2315
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,720
Apparently the you can. 
You can hear the music coming 

2316
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:33,640
in. 
They tried to keep this very 

2317
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,760
quiet on set so only the 
principal actors knew what was 

2318
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,480
going to go on and anyone that 
was going to be in these final 

2319
01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:44,560
shots didn't get their their 
portion of the script until like

2320
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,760
4 days before. 
So they were trying to keep this

2321
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,600
hush. 
This is also the era where 

2322
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,320
movies were constantly getting 
leaked online and things like 

2323
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,320
that. 
Like Scream went through many, 

2324
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,240
many things like this too, with 
a lot of their sequels of trying

2325
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:02,040
to, they would have constant 
like fake scripts and like fake 

2326
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,440
names and anything to keep 
people from knowing what was 

2327
01:44:05,440 --> 01:44:08,480
going to happen. 
And so this is where we find out

2328
01:44:08,480 --> 01:44:12,160
that Jigsaw has taken on a 
protege because, you know, as we

2329
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:16,520
see, he is dying of cancer. 
So he wants someone to take over

2330
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,400
the family business. 
So I choose you. 

2331
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,640
Amanda is like I volunteer as 
tribute and so we see a whole 

2332
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,320
montage of tax. 
Breaks. 

2333
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,120
Of Amanda and Jigsaw just 
hanging out, you know, just 

2334
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,880
chilling together, getting nice.
Doing a jigsaw puzzle. 

2335
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,760
Planning murders together. 
Doing a jigsaw, hey. 

2336
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:39,480
You know what we should do after
this? 

2337
01:44:40,480 --> 01:44:42,160
He says do a. 
Reverse bear trap. 

2338
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,520
But yeah, she, like I had 
mentioned, is a jigsaw 

2339
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,200
enthusiast, so of course this 
was his first pick. 

2340
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:54,680
More on Doctor Gordon later 
because he helped with 

2341
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:57,360
apparently one of these traps, 
but we don't find that out for 

2342
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,840
like a couple sequels. 
Oh yeah, just don't forget about

2343
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:02,080
him. 
The guy that survived in the 

2344
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:03,440
first one, right? 
Yes, Doctor Gordon. 

2345
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,520
Doctor Gordon did the eye thing.
That's what it is. 

2346
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:08,200
That's right, 'cause the trap in
the very. 

2347
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,720
Beginning is by Doctor. 
After your SO, why does it show 

2348
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,280
John doing it? 
It doesn't. 

2349
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,280
It shows a hoodie. 
Shows a hoodie figure. 

2350
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,440
It could have been low Red 
Riding Hood basically for real, 

2351
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,120
you know, or. 
Wendy from Casper meets Wendy. 

2352
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,720
So when Wahlberg goes into the 
what if, you know, when Wahlberg

2353
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:26,440
goes into the room, the basement
room, Yeah, there's no signs of 

2354
01:45:26,440 --> 01:45:29,000
Xavier's head being smashed in 
with the toilet. 

2355
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:32,880
Oh yeah, how did he just. 
His body's whole, his head is 

2356
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,520
whole. 
There's no damage to his head in

2357
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:40,560
the skeleton. 
Oh, that didn't huh? 

2358
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,360
I wonder if there was a 
different way they were going to

2359
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:44,520
kill him off. 
They just changed. 

2360
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,320
It there's 5 alternative 
endings, yes. 

2361
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,360
OK, yes, that was the other. 
Thing I should have lined up the

2362
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:50,400
endings then. 
Edited. 

2363
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,480
I want to see the alternative. 
I was sad we have the first Saw 

2364
01:45:53,480 --> 01:45:57,000
on DVD and we don't have any of 
the sequels so I really want to 

2365
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,240
watch the special features for 
this one eventually. 

2366
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,440
See, this is when they had 
special features like they 

2367
01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:02,800
don't. 
Do that anymore like good ones. 

2368
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,400
Yeah, like, but you know how the
making of Yeah, I love all that.

2369
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,600
I do too and now, now all they 
do is like a commentary and I'm 

2370
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,240
like commentary is cool. 
Or like gag reel. 

2371
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,440
But I want other shit. 
I haven't bought a Blu-ray in 

2372
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:15,000
years. 
One of my favorite ever 

2373
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,720
purchases is The Matrix. 
Oh, I bet the special features 

2374
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,200
on that. 
Well, I can kill. 

2375
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:28,400
It has a complete documentary 
called The Matrix Revisited 

2376
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,920
where they talk. 
It's a 2 hour documentary the 

2377
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,240
same length of the movie. 
Hell yeah, it's all good. 

2378
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:34,840
And then they have special 
features. 

2379
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,400
Sorry, there's a documentary and
then special features. 

2380
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,880
So that is like, that's crazy. 
That's my bang for buck on that 

2381
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:41,600
one. 
You know what? 

2382
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,840
I don't have it anymore, but I 
used to have it when I lived 

2383
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:45,880
with my parents. 
But I was obsessed. 

2384
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:47,920
Like I really was obsessed with 
Spider Man. 

2385
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:49,920
They bought me that. 
That was my first Blu-ray. 

2386
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:51,080
Ever. 
Those are good. 

2387
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,840
Special The Spider Man Blu-ray. 
Yeah, Fuck yeah. 

2388
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,880
There's so many good extra 
features in it. 

2389
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,840
I love the original spider man. 
We should go see them. 

2390
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,640
They're coming back in theaters.
They're even doing Spider Man 

2391
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,320
2.1 in theaters. 
Never been done. 

2392
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:05,760
Oh. 
I'm down. 

2393
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,960
I want to. 2.1 is the. 
Andrew Garfield, one, right? 

2394
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:15,760
No no, No 2.1 is Spider Man 2, 
which arguably people think is 

2395
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,240
one of the best comic book 
movies. 

2396
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,920
It is. 
There's lots of scenes that they

2397
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:24,160
shot that were obviously cut. 
Yes, 2.1 is all of those 

2398
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,160
restored in there. 
So they added them in there. 

2399
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:28,400
So some of the scenes actually 
make more sense now. 

2400
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,520
Well, some of this, well, some 
of them are cut for obviously 

2401
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,280
like not like fluidity of the 
movie, but. 

2402
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:37,440
It still makes sense. 
There's a very funny gag scene 

2403
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:40,680
that I do remember watching of J
Jonah Jameson in the Spider Man 

2404
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,680
costume and that will be in the.
Just playing around. 

2405
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,920
Yeah, jumping on his desk and 
like being Spider Man. 

2406
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:47,440
It's fucking hilarious. 
Hell yeah. 

2407
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,160
That will be in the movie. 
Let me speed run and we'll get 

2408
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:52,440
to the final 'cause I just 
realized I didn't quite wrap it 

2409
01:47:52,440 --> 01:47:55,080
up just yet. 
So we know that Amanda is part 

2410
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:56,680
of it. 
She helped put together this 

2411
01:47:56,680 --> 01:48:00,040
entire thing and she has been a 
plant in the house the entire 

2412
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,240
time. 
It shows her locking away 

2413
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:08,120
Detective Eric at the end and 
she says she is the one that 

2414
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:09,840
gets to deliver. 
The. 

2415
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:13,200
The big reveal and she gets to 
say what's the what's the? 

2416
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:15,480
Game over. 
Thank you, she gets to say game.

2417
01:48:15,480 --> 01:48:17,840
Well, she says her own tape. 
Yeah. 

2418
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,120
She listens to a tape after he 
shuts the door. 

2419
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:24,320
This is definitely meant to be 
Jigsaw handing it over to 

2420
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:25,360
Amanda. 
Yes. 

2421
01:48:25,440 --> 01:48:27,240
Absolutely. 
And it kind of works that way, 

2422
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,000
but it doesn't work exactly that
way. 

2423
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,840
I I kind of like that, but we 
can talk about that as we get 

2424
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:35,480
further into the series. 
It is revealed that Daniel was 

2425
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:40,600
Danny was fine and he was in a 
safe in the same room with them 

2426
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:41,600
so. 
Tired. 

2427
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:45,280
Yeah, he was like a foot away. 
Yeah, and he's alive and yeah, 

2428
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:49,360
he's fine. 
We see Jigsaw laughing in the 

2429
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:53,480
car, knowing that what Detective
Eric's fate was. 

2430
01:48:53,480 --> 01:48:55,920
And that's where we that's where
we wrap up. 

2431
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:58,960
Is he's locked in forever. 
Yeah. 

2432
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:00,480
He's. 
Locked in forever. 

2433
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:02,000
You'll just have to watch Saw 
Three. 

2434
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,240
How will Amanda continue? 
The jigsaw. 

2435
01:49:05,480 --> 01:49:10,520
Storyline more to come, but 
that's where we end with Saw 

2436
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,800
Two. 
Now I need you to tell me your 

2437
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:17,520
thoughts, your opinions and most
importantly, your ratings. 

2438
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,080
Should I go first? 
Yeah, please. 

2439
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:24,720
These movies, like I said, 
weird, guilty pleasure. 

2440
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,680
I don't know why I like them. 
I just think because they're 

2441
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:29,600
don't know. 
They're that. 

2442
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,680
They're like mystery. 
It's a fascinating look at a 

2443
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:36,160
human. 
Interaction, yeah. 

2444
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,560
Psyche. 
A social experiment, if you 

2445
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,480
will. 
I don't know, they're a weird 

2446
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:42,040
movie. 
I I, I don't know. 

2447
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,360
I don't like to tell people I 
like them, but maybe that's just

2448
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,200
me. 
If I'm talking about horror 

2449
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,120
movies, that's kind of the only 
time I'll bring it up. 

2450
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,920
But you know, what I found is 
that a lot of people who are 

2451
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:54,360
outside of the horror community,
like people who generally don't 

2452
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:58,440
regularly watch horror movies, 
find the Saw series to be really

2453
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,200
interesting or have at least 
watched 1 installment. 

2454
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,000
Or this is the furthest they'll 
go. 

2455
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,160
Like, I know Joey's my buddy. 
Joey doesn't like horror movies.

2456
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,120
I don't think he'd ever watch 
anything like this. 

2457
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:10,920
But I know friends that would be
like I'll watch this but I won't

2458
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:15,080
watch like human Sentai pad 
right Centipede. 

2459
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:20,160
Yeah, it's not. 
It's kind of like suspense and 

2460
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:22,640
psychological horror or 
something. 

2461
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,960
It's not like Scream and Freddie
right you. 

2462
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,640
Know yeah, that's like a 
nameless monster coming back 

2463
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:31,360
coming after you and it's kind 
of like, OK that how many how 

2464
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,080
many times would I be in that 
scenario? 

2465
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,400
Frankenstein. 
Yeah, it's not necessarily 

2466
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,040
realistic. 
This this I I do think is 

2467
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:41,760
fantastical, but a little bit 
more like, well, that could 

2468
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,720
happen. 
What happens when I go to sleep 

2469
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,000
and I think someone steal? 
Me, I think, I think the thing 

2470
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:49,400
about it for me personally is 
like after the first one and the

2471
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,440
way it ended, I was like, Jesus 
Christ, that was a good reveal. 

2472
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,720
Yeah. 
And then so when you find out 

2473
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,920
they're doing a second one, 
you're like, oh, the first one 

2474
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:58,960
was so good. 
This one has to follow suit. 

2475
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:00,240
So you watch it. 
Yes. 

2476
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:04,160
So then you get the twists, you 
get the turns and then Amanda, 

2477
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,560
Oh my God, Amanda's back and 
then you're like, well, fuck, I 

2478
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:08,840
got to keep going. 
Yep. 

2479
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:13,880
So then you do get this like 
it's a very good way to keep the

2480
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,320
audience entertained. 
I feel like. 

2481
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:17,360
Because even though they 
studied. 

2482
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,600
For like. 
Yeah, even though they get kind 

2483
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:26,000
of silly and they jump back, 
they go forward, they add scenes

2484
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,640
in where you're like, oh, he was
in the background the whole time

2485
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:29,240
and. 
You're. 

2486
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,680
Like and you're like, well, no, 
because I didn't fucking see 

2487
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,640
him, but sure, I'll go with it 
because it's so law now. 

2488
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,120
But I don't know, they're just. 
All law. 

2489
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:38,240
Sore. 
Lore. 

2490
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:39,760
I like that. 
I like the way you say that. 

2491
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,880
There's just this weird kind of 
you have to keep going and 

2492
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,760
watching them even though you're
like, fuck, they're on 10. 

2493
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:47,400
Like Jesus, what are they doing 
now? 

2494
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:51,560
He, he died 5 movies ago. 
Who the fuck is Jigsaw now? 

2495
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:54,320
And then lo and behold, they 
always find there's another 

2496
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,200
Jigsaw. 
Yeah, there's always someone 

2497
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:56,560
else. 
Just. 

2498
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,040
Passing. 
They can go forever with this at

2499
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:00,400
this point. 
Yeah, I don't know if. 

2500
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:03,720
They, I feel like they took a 
note from the Scream franchise 

2501
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,360
because that's how Scream to me 
stay in business. 

2502
01:52:07,480 --> 01:52:09,640
It's because it's always a. 
Different scream took it from 

2503
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:12,800
where I'd say Friday the 13th 
because his. 

2504
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:14,160
Mom. 
Oh yeah, that's right. 

2505
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:15,800
It was Jason Voorhees. 
Mrs. Voorhees. 

2506
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:16,960
Was. 
Oh, it was definitely number. 

2507
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:18,840
Two, you know what I'm saying? 
Like take, take straight off a 

2508
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,520
straight up killer. 
Is Freddie right? 

2509
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,720
Yeah. 
The Freddie is like a. 

2510
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,800
Consistent monster change the 
killer up. 

2511
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:25,240
Yeah, you know. 
You can make it. 

2512
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:27,160
This person. 
Oh, no, It wasn't actually that 

2513
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:28,320
person. 
It was this person. 

2514
01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:30,040
Yeah. 
And as you get down the road, 

2515
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:34,000
what you what you thought was 
Jigsaw in the mask is actually 

2516
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,360
this guy. 
And then it's the reveal. 

2517
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:36,960
And then it's like, Oh my God, 
it wasn't Jigsaw or. 

2518
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:39,560
Oh my God, it was in the fucking
Art Room with a pipe. 

2519
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:40,800
Yeah, exactly. 
You know. 

2520
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:45,760
Where do you create this Daniel?
Damn. 

2521
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:50,120
Daniel damn Daniel. 
I'm going to say like a 4.5. 

2522
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:53,760
I don't think it's the strongest
entry in the franchise, but it's

2523
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,520
AI think it's a solid sequel. 
It stands up on its own. 

2524
01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:01,640
I think it kind of plays Lauren 
Hawks back, haven't said that 

2525
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:07,760
for a while to the first one. 
I think the twists on as 

2526
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:14,680
dramatic as the first one, but 
it's still in. 

2527
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,200
I mean it's it's an entertaining
1 and it's quick as fuck. 

2528
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:19,200
Dude, yeah. 
Do you want to give it 4.5 

2529
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:20,240
anything in? 
Particular. 

2530
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,440
Oh, sorry, 4.5. 
Damn, Daniel. 

2531
01:53:22,440 --> 01:53:23,960
Yeah, I'm going to use that one,
Yeah. 

2532
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:28,160
Noise, Noise Bip. 
No, I just went. 

2533
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,600
It's an entertaining movie. 
It's not my favorite song, no, 

2534
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:40,800
so I'll give it a. 7.5. 
I'm going to give it. 

2535
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:43,720
It's not my favorite one, but 
I'm going to give it a 10. 

2536
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:52,280
I'll give it a six 6. 
Shouldn't have looked in that 

2537
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:59,360
Fucking people. 6 Why aren't any
of these people using their 

2538
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,520
fucking brain? 
Yeah, fair. 

2539
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,480
We don't always have to use 
quotes from the movie. 

2540
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:10,120
Yeah. 
I OK, so I like the first movie 

2541
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:14,000
quite a bit, to be honest, and I
think the second one, to me, 

2542
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,160
this up the ante. 
This is one of those sequels 

2543
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:19,040
where when I saw it I was like 
oh shit, it got scarier because.

2544
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:20,480
They had a big bunch it. 
Was really scary. 

2545
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:23,000
Not to me. 
It wasn't necessarily scarier. 

2546
01:54:23,480 --> 01:54:28,360
It was. 
It was more more more ingenious 

2547
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,400
traps. 
Yes, the traps were way more. 

2548
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:35,160
And scarier to picture yourself 
in, like the one with the guy on

2549
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:38,000
there and rotating that one. 
That one. 

2550
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:40,400
Oh my God, that one later. 
No, no, no. 

2551
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,320
I'm. 
Not ready to think about that 

2552
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:43,440
one yet. 
Oh God. 

2553
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:45,280
Oh yeah. 
Oh no. 

2554
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:47,080
The pendulum around like that? 
No, because. 

2555
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,960
That's this one. 
You remember the car. 

2556
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:52,840
Stuck to the Oh yeah. 
Oh, yeah, I thought I was going 

2557
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:53,920
to have to see Chester this 
movie. 

2558
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:55,240
And I was like having big 
regrets. 

2559
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:56,560
And then I was like, oh, thank 
God, that's. 

2560
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,520
No, that's like 5 movies from. 
Now I'm not ready for to to 

2561
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:00,960
rewatch that scene. 
He does make a. 

2562
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,480
He does make an appearance in 
Crank. 

2563
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:05,280
He does. 
It's a cameo. 

2564
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:07,640
Yes. 
Continue. 

2565
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:08,200
I cut you off. 
I'm. 

2566
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,080
Trying to remember what I was. 
Oh OK. 

2567
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:15,600
So yes, I think that the traps 
in this one way scarier way play

2568
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:18,760
fucked with my mind a lot more. 
So I don't remember what I gave 

2569
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:22,680
the initial movie, but I'm going
to give this one a solid. 

2570
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:27,960
I'm gonna give this a 6 1/2. 
I think this is better than 

2571
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,560
being just middle of the road. 
Like I really enjoyed this. 6 

2572
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,040
1/2 what? 
Fucking needle pits, Oh my God. 

2573
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:37,600
I can't. 
Stop thinking about it. 

2574
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:39,880
Oh. 
Some of the ones in this are 

2575
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,200
horrible actually. 
They do get worse though. 

2576
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:45,120
Oh that's what I wanted to say 
but that's the guy that burns in

2577
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:48,800
the thing I was confusing him 
with a later installment. 

2578
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,480
There's a guy who his wife is 
strapped in there. 

2579
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,960
She didn't do anything wrong but
he has to like answer these 

2580
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:57,360
riddles 3 or something. 
Like that? 

2581
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,320
Oh yeah. 
He cools through some stuff, 

2582
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:00,720
doesn't he? 
Is that the one where the girl's

2583
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:02,440
going through the meat grinder 
hanging? 

2584
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:04,520
Yeah, same. 
Has to do something. 

2585
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,320
See some of them get a bit too, 
kind of like. 

2586
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:08,920
They get real, like weird and 
dark. 

2587
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:10,800
But I get it. 
Yeah, it's not murder, no. 

2588
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:16,280
No, no, not well, Well, no, no. 
I'm just saying like, you know, 

2589
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:19,880
you go so far and then like, how
do you keep coming up with traps

2590
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:21,640
that are going to outdo the next
one? 

2591
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:25,640
You know, well, you have to go 
ask the guy from the Mccainy 

2592
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:27,000
Manor. 
Oh God. 

2593
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:28,320
You know he'll tell you how to. 
Do it. 

2594
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,000
I think if you wanted to 
actually put yourself in a saw 

2595
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,040
trap, that's as close as. 
Close as you can fucking. 

2596
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:35,680
Get Yeah, go to Mccainy Manor. 
Is that place still open? 

2597
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,000
I don't know, there's a 
documentary about it. 

2598
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,880
There's also a YouTube who went 
and signed up and got a picture 

2599
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:44,800
of the documentary and video, 
like undercover stuff. 

2600
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:47,440
He like went in there. 
Same guys that that took over 

2601
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:54,040
the Yellow Deli Cafe, that's a 
cult ran by those Mormon people 

2602
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,680
and they said they they're part 
owners because if you work there

2603
01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:00,760
and then they fired everyone 
else and they're like, it's our 

2604
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:02,080
business now. 
Yikes. 

2605
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,560
They took over it on purpose 
just because there's a cult. 

2606
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:07,520
Terrible. 
Yeah, terrible. 

2607
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:11,320
But thanks for thanks for 
watching Saw 2 with me on this. 

2608
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:13,000
You know, lovely morning. 
Morning. 

2609
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,400
Yeah. 
Just go on about your day now. 

2610
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,040
Well, not now. 
You've got the rest of the day. 

2611
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:20,560
Go have fun. 
Judy, thank you as always for 

2612
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,120
tuning into our podcast. 
You can find the Cinema Sit down

2613
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:27,440
podcast anywhere you get your 
podcast, Spotify, iTunes, all of

2614
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,680
those things. 
We're also on the Tickety Talk 

2615
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,080
and we're on Instagram and you 
can find us all linked 

2616
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:34,280
individually as well in the 
description. 

2617
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:38,320
Daniel next week is your our 
pick and we are finally past the

2618
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:40,920
spectacular. 
Do you have an idea? 

2619
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:42,680
2020 what? 
You might be picking. 

2620
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,320
Yeah, I mean, it's fall. 
You got ideas? 

2621
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:49,320
Yeah, I mean, I'm not completely
like, you know, what's the word?

2622
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:55,200
My idea was more like fall fall 
love ROM coms kind of getting 

2623
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:58,160
into the mood of Christmas. 
Really. 

2624
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,920
Family time of those types 
things. 

2625
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:02,560
There are definitely some on my 
list. 

2626
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:04,040
Yeah, that could be considered a
ROM com. 

2627
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:08,920
Alien versus Predator. 
I see. 

2628
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:10,720
I was thinking things like fifth
element. 

2629
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:12,440
Yeah, I mean sure. 
I mean whatever bro. 

2630
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:16,280
Fantastic Mr. Fox. 
I don't know what any of those 

2631
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,520
things are. 
You don't know what the fifth 

2632
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,400
element is. 
I mean, I've seen clips of it, 

2633
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:21,280
but I've never you've. 
Never seen the fifth element. 

2634
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,680
My parents were really into that
movie and therefore as a kid I 

2635
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,520
was like, Nope. 
Actually, I don't think we 

2636
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:28,160
should do that one. 
Luke Besson is not the. 

2637
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:29,960
Are we going to Why you want to 
do Alien month? 

2638
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,680
I don't know yet. 
OK, see look, I had an idea. 

2639
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:36,520
But then. 
But then I fucked it up by 

2640
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:38,720
saying it should be. 
But then like, I'm thinking 

2641
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:40,880
about a Fifth Element and I'm 
like, I love that movie, but I 

2642
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:42,880
don't like Luke Besson because 
he's a horrible person. 

2643
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,240
So do we do that and then talk 
about? 

2644
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:47,600
We talk about everything here. 
Yeah, I know. 

2645
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:49,000
You know, I had a different 
pick. 

2646
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:50,880
I had a different pick going 
into this last week. 

2647
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:52,480
I wanted to show you guys a 
horror classic. 

2648
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:57,040
And then I realized who directed
it, and I thought twice, I want 

2649
01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:59,640
to, OK, I've already seen it 
once before, but I know Jerry's 

2650
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:01,360
never seen it. 
I wanted to watch Rosemary's 

2651
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,200
Baby. 
I think it's a really good 

2652
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:05,080
movie. 
I think Roman Polanski is a 

2653
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:07,880
piece of shit. 
I don't want to watch anything 

2654
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,120
that he's done. 
Well, I mean, that is a good 

2655
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:10,800
movie though. 
It's a good. 

2656
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:12,120
Movie. 
You know what? 

2657
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:15,440
Some one of my Co workers at 
work watched the prophecy. 

2658
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:17,720
Do you know of it? 
Christopher Walken. 

2659
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:20,160
No, no. 
What is it? 

2660
01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:23,360
I haven't seen it, and I wonder 
if we should just go blind into 

2661
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,760
it and see if it. 
Kevin. 

2662
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:29,280
Thank you, Kevin. 
Christopher Walken is the 

2663
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:32,200
Archangel. 
Gabriel Vigo Mortensen is the 

2664
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:36,080
devil. 
Never heard of it. 

2665
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,200
It's 90s Google this is. 
Something my mom would have been

2666
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:40,320
into. 
But Google the cover. 

2667
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,760
You might have recognized it 
going around a video store. 

2668
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:46,000
Never watched it, Might pick it.
OK, who knows? 

2669
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:48,680
I might save it for something, 
you know, because it's, I think 

2670
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:50,320
it's a horror movie meant to be 
a horror. 

2671
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:51,440
Movie. 
I mean, I was thinking about 

2672
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,520
doing a Thanksgiving horror 
movie called Thanksgiving. 

2673
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:55,600
Never heard of it, never seen 
it. 

2674
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:59,160
What about that one with David 
Harbour where he stands and he 

2675
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:01,240
goes around killing people? 
He's a Pilgrim, right? 

2676
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:03,400
I don't. 
Know there's one about a Pilgrim

2677
02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:04,640
that goes around and kills 
people? 

2678
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,520
In is it? 
There's a lot of yeah. 

2679
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:08,400
Is it one with? 
Rock or whatever. 

2680
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:10,240
Is it hard? 
Rock or whatever, Hopper. 

2681
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:13,080
Hopper's in it. 
Hopper's is in one of the ones. 

2682
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,200
Oh yeah, Hopper is in one of the
new ones I'm cutting down. 

2683
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:17,200
Then he looks like he can play. 
He can play Santa Claus. 

2684
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,920
Yeah, he could also play a good 
Abe Lincoln, I bet. 

2685
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,000
You know, Daniel Day Lewis, 
that's that's my guy, bro. 

2686
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:26,600
Daniel Day Lewis damn near looks
like him. 

2687
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:28,480
Like they could be related. 
Even with. 

2688
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:31,720
The yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I like Hopper. 

2689
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,520
Well, until next time y'all, 
it's been fun. 

2690
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,640
I do want to shout out a movie 
real quick that I watched called

2691
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:41,760
Love Hurts. 
Oh, with Ki kwan Ki kwan. 

2692
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:43,880
Uh huh, dude. 
I want to watch that. 

2693
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:47,040
Dude, the same director as John 
Wick 2. 

2694
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:50,280
Chad Stahelski. 
Yeah, the the, the, the fighting

2695
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:52,040
scenes. 
They're amazing, I've heard. 

2696
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:57,200
Are John Wick Yeah, but fun. 
I think everyone who hasn't seen

2697
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:58,960
that, you could probably watch 
it on Amazon Prime or. 

2698
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,120
It's a sex sex movie, isn't? 
It it's it's one. 

2699
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,520
OK, here's the thing. 
I think it's one of my favorite 

2700
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:04,880
Valentine's Day movies. 
Now all. 

2701
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:06,640
Right. 
Well, if no one picks it by 

2702
02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:08,880
February, we'll do that. 
It's a Valentine's Day movie, so

2703
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:10,320
now it's one of my favorite 
picks. 

2704
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:11,800
What's the one that you showed 
me recently? 

2705
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:14,120
The action movie? 
Is it called Nobody? 

2706
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:16,120
Nobody. 
The first one, yeah. 

2707
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:17,480
Yeah. 
Just a side note because you 

2708
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:19,160
were mentioning a movie that you
watched recently. 

2709
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:20,440
We watched that. 
Also the same. 

2710
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:22,800
I kind of liked it. 
Same John Wick choreographers 

2711
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:24,880
taught him the fight scenes in 
that. 

2712
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:29,040
The same choreographers in that 
movie as John Wick and Nobody. 

2713
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:30,520
That's a good the sequel's out. 
Too. 

2714
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:31,960
I know I want to see it, but I 
haven't. 

2715
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:35,600
I need to find it, yeah. 
You know, well, I'm going to go 

2716
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:37,120
home and watch Love Hurts. 
Do it. 

2717
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:40,880
I did really good guess. 
Guess who makes the fucking 

2718
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:42,120
appearance? 
Marshawn Lynch. 

2719
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:46,840
No, wait, what? 
No, the what's his name? 

2720
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:49,560
Who's the main character? 
Kiki Kwan. 

2721
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:51,760
Yes. 
So what movie is he famous for? 

2722
02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:54,680
Indiana Jones and Goonies. 
And who would make an 

2723
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:56,160
appearance? 
Harrison Ford. 

2724
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:58,320
No, that'd be awesome to. 
Ask him. 

2725
02:01:58,560 --> 02:01:58,920
Come on. 
Man. 

2726
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:01,400
Fuck it was dude, same way as 
Gandhi. 

2727
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:05,920
There's a not line in there. 
They say I love you, brother. 

2728
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:08,600
Like, like they're brothers. 
He is the same. 

2729
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:12,800
It's our time up here. 
Oh man, he might have said that 

2730
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:14,960
I was making dinner in and out 
and watching it, but he might 

2731
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,760
have said it's our time up here.
I hope so. 

2732
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:19,160
I'm going to. 
It's so fucking good. 

2733
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:21,320
OK, I'm gonna fight scene with 
our cookie cutters. 

2734
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:24,480
It's on prime. 
It's on prime. 

2735
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:26,040
Oh. 
Excellent, but. 

2736
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:28,240
You gotta have prime. 
We still have prime for like 5 

2737
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:30,200
more days. 
I already watched it. 

2738
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,360
Some of us don't know how to 
cancel things accurately 

2739
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:36,360
apparently, but in on that note,
we'll see y'all. 

2740
02:02:36,520 --> 02:02:38,400
Bye. 
Goodbye everyone, bye.

