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Hey everyone and welcome to the 
Doctors Running Podcast where 

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we, a group of doctors of 
physical therapy, talk about the

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art and the science of the 
things that we put on our feet. 

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Today I have the pleasure of 
having Doctor Sloss with me. 

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I'm Matthew Klein. 
We're going to do a really 

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interesting episode on the best 
super racing shoes so far of 

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2024. 
We are currently recording March

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5th. 
Happy Cinco de Mayo. 

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For those of you that celebrate,
celebrate. 

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David, how are you doing today? 
I'm doing well, except it's May 

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5th. 
What did I say? 

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He said March 5th. 
Oh God, yeah. 

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Sorry. 
May 5th. 

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Hence why I would say Cinco de 
Mayo. 

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Which makes sense. 
Great. 

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Yeah, this is what happens. 
By the way, we have a kid. 

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You're trying to finish up a PhD
association and create a new 

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course for your university and 
teach another one. 

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It's really fun and run. 
So yeah, how are you doing 

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outside of me getting dates 
from? 

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Yeah, doing OK. 
I mean, I'm a I'm a little bit 

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of a sad boy right now just 
because of the events last 

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night. 
So we're recording on May 5th. 

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Yesterday was May 4th. 
Thanks. 

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For clarifying. 
Yeah, and the 4th was not with 

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me. 
No. 

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On last night, SO ran down at 
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which is a really solid meet for
to go run a good 5K. 

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And I mean I had been kind of 
hard burying this foot injury 

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for a little bit now and I 
didn't spike up until this week 

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because we didn't want to flare 
it up. 

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You know, it's like one of those
things where it's like I don't 

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even know if we're going to do 
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And like I can feel it pulling a
little bit on Tuesday when we 

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did the track workout just 
tuning up and but it was like OK

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I didn't hurt and I was like I 
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this you know and then did the 
race went out good was running 

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70 ones like that was the plan 
like that. 

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For those that don't know track 
splits it's basically 70 ones 

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would be about 444 per 1600 
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between a 14485 K and a 15 flat 
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So basically the goal is like, 
just go break 15, you know, just

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go run 70 ones, be consistent, 
don't do anything stupid. 

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And for the most part, that was 
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until about lap six or seven. 
And I could feel it kind of 

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start pulling at me in lap five.
And then it really started kind 

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of hurting and I was like, I 
couldn't really push off my 

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forefoot very well. 
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falling off the group because at
that race everyone is all within

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like seconds of each other. 
So it's easy to fall off the 

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train and I just just just try 
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do what I can do and just just 
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And then I kind of, I did try to
kick in the last 200 and then my

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foot really didn't like me for 
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And yeah, so I didn't cool down 
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And we're going to take a little
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back around and we'll race later
in the year and we're just going

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to focus on getting healthy 
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Do you mind, I'm going to, I'm 
going to bring this up a little 

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bit. 
We'll, we'll talk about this 

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just a second and like some 
things related to this, but can 

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you tell us what you think or 
the listeners what you suspect 

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is going on? 
Yeah, I mean it's like a distal,

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like insertional pain on that. 
Like Achilles tendon. 

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Yeah, it's like, it almost feels
like, it's like it almost was 

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like a hoof, like an inverted U,
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of, well, not inverted AU's up. 
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Like just like right at like a 
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my heel. 
And it like pulls when I like 

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plantar flex and I like, go and 
push off of it, which obviously 

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you need to do that to run. 
So it's, yeah, it doesn't feel 

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great. 
It doesn't hurt as bad as it did

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last night, though, which is 
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It's calming down. 
That's a good sign. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Does it feel like you know the 
the where the bursal tissue? 

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Is it could be like a retro 
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Insertional or bursal, Yeah. 
I could see that. 

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Which one would you see that 
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Which one would you suspect? 
Clinical reasoning? 

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Which would you put your cards 
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Honestly, it's probably a little
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I mean, I had a little bit of 
chronic tendinopathy there going

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for a while, but then I I also. 
So those that are listening, we 

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are not always the best at 
taking our own advice, which is 

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I'm guilty of that. 
Someone called me out on it on 

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Instagram. 
But so early, maybe like a month

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ago, I took a week off running 
and I went skiing in Mammoth and

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I didn't run at all. 
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rushed right back into training 
immediately back into 7080 mile 

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a week, spiking up, you know, 
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And then my foot got mad at me. 
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a couple days off that week, 
kind of get it back to the 

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surface That was basically all 
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And 1/2 was basically like, get 
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better every day, a little bit 
better every day, a little bit 

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every day. 
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can race. 
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thinking about it 
retrospectively, it's like you 

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probably should have just not 
raced, like you should feel 

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pretty good about racing in the 
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So it was probably a little bit 
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having some on and off like calf
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So it's probably a little bit of
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So a little bit of chronicity 
based on how long, but then like

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what's called acute on chronic 
where you have a chronic 

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pathology but you get an acute 
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So do you mind if I go off topic
for a second and take a little 

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talk about this? 
So again, for those who don't 

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know, the Achilles is kind of 
like one of my favorite things 

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to geek out on us. 
What's my dissertations about? 

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Especially like Achilles 
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Somebody messaged us this a 
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never responded. 
But they're asking about the 

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difference between mid portion 
Achilles tendinopathy and 

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insertional Achilles 
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You got to realize the tendons 
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So you have the gastroxoleus, 
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up top that that you usually can
see and then that those become 

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the tendon about sometimes 
halfway depending on the length 

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of your muscles. 
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back of your ankle and then 
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of your foot called your 
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So tendinopathies, there's two 
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typically occur, it's either mid
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some of that middle port right 
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in the solid part where it's 
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Those are I'm not going to say 
the more common ones, but that's

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more of what I'm studying that a
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runners tend to experience, 
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tendon. 
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experience insertional 
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get an irritation right where 
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pathologies are actually very 
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respond. 
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can respond actually very quick 
like you got, you can keep 

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loading them if they're not too 
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really well. 
The insertional ones because you

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start getting into other tissues
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little bit of bone, you get a 
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calcaneal Bursa is back there, 
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tissue. 
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irritated with insertional 
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Like you cannot rush these 
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patient because it's very easy 
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And because of the location, 
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flow to tendons isn't always 
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kind of questionable as you get 
into like the like, the 

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connection points with the bone,
it can take a little bit for it 

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to calm down, so you can't. 
You have to respect it to go, 

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you know, you got to keep 
moving, like some gentle 

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motions. 
Always good things will get 

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stiff, but you got to, you know,
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its own rate. 
Like there you you have to pay 

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attention to what it feels like 
not focusing on pain but let it 

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be your kind of guide to go OK, 
when is this ready? 

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It's not something you can 
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Which sounds like David's doing 
a good job with now instead of 

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going, hey let me not rush this 
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I can't just start loading this 
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certain cases, this being an 
example with injuries, where 

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it's like you got to just let it
calm down 1st and then slowly 

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start building on it. 
But it sounds like, yeah, that 

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quick rush for a lot of things 
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Even if you take time off 
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in. 
You do have to ease back and so 

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you had a the perfect storm 
here, right? 

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It was like, OK, a long injury, 
not a ton of experience, not a 

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ton of like time and spikes and 
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I'm like officially old on the 
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I feel like like when you're 
actually a decade older than 

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some of the people running on 
the track, it's. 

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Like. 
I got to like really break into 

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the spikes again. 
I can't just put them on like, 

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that's also part of the problem 
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I kind of rushed my way back 
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Yeah, and that's I'm going to 
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We're going to tow so big as we 
finally get almost 10 minutes of

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this episode. 
We're going to talk about some 

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of the our favorite super racing
shoes of the year so far. 

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A couple honorable mentions. 
We're going to do our top three 

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starting from #3 going to #1 and
we'll give you some specs and 

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kind of talk about why. 
But as we end, what we're going 

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to talk about is being aware as 
as you spend more time in these 

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super shoes, when you're trying 
to choose just in back to maybe 

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normal shoes or even spikes, 
which although the spikes are 

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super, they are still spikes, 
they're still very different 

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from a lot of the Super shoes. 
Some things to pay attention to 

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as you transition, 'cause 
they're very different, Your 

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body's going to react very 
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So let's talk, let's jump into 
our honorable mentions. 

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We're going to do backwards what
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We normally do. 
So do we want to do let's let's 

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do our two honorable mentions 
for the best super racing shoes 

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of 2024 thus far. 
And I'm going to say thus far 

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because you know we've been 
geeking out. 

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I'm seeing on super shoes like 
the cloud was at cloud room 

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strike is one of them. 
The E4 is something is another 

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one that's coming out maybe this
year we've still got Adidas 

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Adios Pro 4. 
Supposedly we've got the Puma 

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Deviate Nitro Elite 3:00. 
AM I missing any? 

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Other ones, yeah. 
I mean, off the top of my head, 

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those, those are the big ones, 
yeah. 

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Yeah, big ones that we can think
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If we miss any, put them in the 
comments below because we do 

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miss things and we that's why we
need your help. 

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So But yeah, this is the best so
far as of May. 

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Let me clarify make sure I get 
my dates right as of May 5th. 

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So David, why don't you start? 
What are your two honorable 

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mentions for Best of for Race 
Super Racing shoes in 2020? 

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Yeah, I'll let me grab them real
quick. 

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They're right here at my feet. 
So they are both really good 

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shoes and I think for a given 
runner they could still be the 

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number one for someone. 
It's just there's a small 

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something in them. 
They just didn't quite make the 

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list for me. 
The first one's going to be the 

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Hocus CLOX one and the other one
is going to be the Saucony 

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Endorphin Pro 4 and I'll start 
with the CLOX one. 

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It's a little bit heavy for a 
racing shoe, but that actually 

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like this is like right around 
the 9.0 oz range, right? 

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For men's size 9. 
Like it's it's pretty heavy. 

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I've got I got a scale right 
here too. 

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I got specs. 
Specs is 8.7 oz 240 grams for 

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men's size 9, women's size 10, 
1/2. 

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It's 46mm in the heel 39 and a 
four foot for a 7mm drop. 

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Although because of the way the 
stack heights are measured, 

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technically this is still race 
legal because of how curbed it 

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is, but it does sit at 46mm off 
the ground in the heel. 

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Yeah, and I just weighed in 
mine. 

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Mine's 9.1, so it's it's a 
chunky boy but but it's really 

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responsive, really bouncy. 
I feel like in the right setting

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like the four foot forward, I 
think it's a good platform, very

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bouncy, it rolls you forward. 
It's a hyper rocker shoe like 

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this thing really just wants you
to propel forward. 

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The where I have some issues 
with it is that big lateral cut 

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out there. 
Like it does save some weight. 

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But especially if I'm on a 
cambered road or I'm kind of 

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leaning into a turn or something
like it does give me a little 

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inversion moment that I don't 
really like. 

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Like I almost feel like I'm 
going to turn my ankle and so I 

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that's like the that's the big 
thing where it almost feels like

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a safety thing. 
I almost I don't really mind the

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weight gain because of how 
responsive The thing is. 

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It's like it's crazy. 
I'll bouncy. 

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This thing is so lot of upside. 
The upper is a little warm but 

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it it locks down pretty well. 
I didn't really have any issues 

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there, so. 
It does. 

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Surprise. 
Like it's it's a really good 

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shoe. 
I just it just misses the mark 

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just a tiny bit, you know. 
But it's still it's a premium 

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racing shoe and someone, anyone,
could race in that thing. 

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And a lot of people I'm seeing a
lot of people, by the way, for 

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those, I'm local to Southern 
California and I'm at the Rose 

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Bowl the time. 
I've seen plenty people just 

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doing training runs in them. 
I'm like, wow, I mean, you know,

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I it's got enough cushion. 
You could do that. 

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I that wouldn't be my 
suggestion, but. 

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Yeah. 
And then the other one is the 

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Endorphin Pro 4, you know, kind 
of your standard, you know, 

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racing shoe from the company, 
your PB foam power and PB. 

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They updated a couple things, 
gave it a new outsole. 

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They changed the platform a 
little bit, locks down pretty 

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well, good traction under foot. 
I actually find this to be a 

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pretty versatile one. 
I know it's been a controversial

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1 amongst the Dor team, 'cause 
it does feel good picking up the

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pace. 
Like I feel like you could run 

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Rd. 
Mile to 5K in this shoe like 

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fine. 
Well, I'm. 

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Team U2, though, 'cause I 
noticed that I can slow down in 

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this shoe as well. 
Like, I feel like I can run a 

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half marathon marathon in this 
too. 

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The the thing that kind of 
stinks is it doesn't feel like I

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would choose it for any of those
specific distances over another 

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shoe on the market right now. 
Like, it's a little, It's good 

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at everything, but if I'm 
running a race and I'm choosing 

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something for a specific 
distance, it's like I'll 

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probably lean toward whatever 
the one I'm like that I like for

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that distance, But it's a good, 
like, Jack of all trades kind of

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super shoe. 
The one thing I did notice, it's

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a little bit of a floating 
sensation. 

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I get in the heel here. 
I don't know if it's just not 

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locking down super well for me 
there. 

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It almost feels like I'm like 
translating medially and 

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laterally in there, But 
otherwise it's pretty good. 

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I mean it's solid, like I think 
it's a it's a worthy runner up 

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and it's like it's a solid shoe.
If you could only have one 

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shooter race in across all 
distances like, it's not a bad 

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one. 
So my my top ones, I'm going to 

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start with the obvious one and 
follow up on what David said is 

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the let's see if I can pronounce
this right. 

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Because not only does David make
fun of me, other people make fun

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of me for how bad my 
pronunciation is or other 

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things. 
So it's the Cielo X1. 

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Did I do it right? 
Great. 

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Awesome. 
Because I was calling it Celio. 

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The Cielo X1 is also on my 
honorary list. 

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Again, it's it's a, it's a it's 
quite a bit heavier than a lot 

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of the other super, super racing
shoes on the market, but it 

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definitely makes up for that in 
the fact that it is incredibly 

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responsive. 
Who was it that won a road mile 

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in this the other day? 
Why am I? 

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Think it was Chrissy gear, Yeah?
That doesn't totally surprise 

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me. 
It wouldn't be my top choice, 

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but how responsive this thing is
does make sense, so I get why 

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people would choose it. 
I've got a 17455 K Stroller PR 

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in this run at the Rose Bowl 
with Isabella and I was like I 

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did not expect to do that at 
all. 

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So very bouncy ride. 
Like you said, uppers is a 

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little bit low volume and a tiny
bit warm, but it still locks 

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down absolutely fine. 
I haven't had any issues with 

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it. 
I unlike I unlike you, I 

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actually like the lateral cut 
out 'cause it does take me an 

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almost like makes this feels 
like there's like a medial 

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wedge. 
So for someone like me that 

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collapses inwards, it actually 
works really, really well. 

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My only challenges is that I 
have ripped off that loud, that 

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lateral posterolateral outsole 
piece because where I I now 

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land, I clip that section. 
So it got pulled off eventually 

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and I was expecting that. 
But if you're not like me, I do 

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feel like you're going to get 
quite a bit of durability out of

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this shoe. 
I am going to still take this to

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100 miles even if I get injured 
just to do 100 mile review. 

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But yeah, I think it was. 
It's a great. 

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I just wish it was a little bit 
lighter and at least it shows me

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that Hoka is trying some stuff 
which is really cool. 

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So yeah, that is my one of my 
runner UPS. 

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The Honorable mentions the other
one I'm on the fence about, but 

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I just want to talk about which 
is the Under Armour Velocity 

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Elite Two only because it is a 
lot better than the first 

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version. 
There's more peebo foam under 

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foot. 
What's crazy and what made this 

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unique is the toe box is 
actually fairly wide and it's 

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like a 2mm drop shoe. 
So for people that like that in 

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a Max tac height shoe, it's 
actually really interesting. 

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Interesting. 
I also like it because it's the 

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first shoe I try to do like time
trial in with Isabella and the 

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stroller and there's like a 520 
time trial, like mild time trial

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the stroller just not even like 
just out of the blue that I 

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really enjoyed running in this 
shoe and Under Armour I think 

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you're on the right track. 
But personally for me this is 

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not worth the price. 
I would still put this more at 

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like 150 a 160 bucks. 
It's not full length, it's not 

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full height. 
Peeba midsole, the Peeba is on 

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the firmer side, it is unique 
and this also shoe is not stable

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at all in the heel mid foot it's
it's been more durable than I 

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expected. 
So this is my left shoe. 

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This is, after all, a little 
over 15 miles, which is really 

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impressive for those who know 
me. 

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Like, the fact that this is at 
lasted makes me like not be able

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to comment on durability because
it's lasted very well for a shoe

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that doesn't have an outsole, 
which we just had that 

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conversation not too long ago. 
But in terms of the weight is, 

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it is a little bit heavier on 
the heavier side. 

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It is really, really stiff. 
But I do like where Under Armour

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is going and they are getting 
better. 

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So it gets an honorable mention 
just because it's just been the 

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coolest shoe to run in. 
But I wouldn't pay 250 for it. 

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We did have to buy this shoe. 
This was not sent to us, but I 

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would not do that again. 
So it's getting better. 

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Anyway, let's go to our top 
three. 

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So David, why don't you start 
with your #3? 

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All right, #3 for 2024 releases 
so far, should we hold ours up 

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at the same time or do you think
we should just go down? 

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Oh, do you want to do this? 
Yeah, let's do that the same 

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time. 
So, OK, OK, well, because we did

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this previously, so we'll 
holders up at the same time, So 

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you ready? 
So best #3 of 2424321. 

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So different shoes. 
Oh, what you did. 

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OK, great. 
All right, David, you start. 

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Yeah, so my #3 is going to be 
the Nike Alpha Fly Three, and 

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there's a reason why it's #3, 
because it can be #1 at a given 

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distance. 
But I think some of the 

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versatility on my own mechanics 
change that. 

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As far as the overall racer, 
when I think of like, OK, what 

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is the best one? 
It's like, can I take this to 

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different distances and really 
enjoy and work it? 

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And I know I said the Endorphin 
Pro Four was versatile, but 

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there's a couple other on this 
list that I think I would still 

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take in the versatility category
over that that are to come. 

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But the Alphafly 3, I think it's
really good at the half 

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marathon, marathon distance, 
very bouncy but still rhythmic. 

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You can get yourself on your 
foot. 

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This thing feels like a 
trampoline little cannon on you.

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That feeling actually kind of 
works against me when I really 

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pick up the pace, because my 
stride feels like it's getting 

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ripped open and I just don't 
have the best control over it. 

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And so I start getting sloppy 
and I start slapping the ground 

389
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pretty hard and it just doesn't 
really. 

390
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I'm running fast, but it just 
doesn't really feel like 

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something I want to be doing. 
And so for me it's going to be 

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1/2 marathon marathon option and
it's just as good as any out 

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there. 
I mean like, if not better. 

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Like I though I think my two 
favorite shoes for the long 

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distances if I had to just 
really nail it down. 

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Everyone knows I like the soccer
endorphin Elite, that's no 

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secret. 
And the Nike Alpha Fly three, I 

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think pair up very nicely with 
each other and I think those 

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would probably be my top options
for the marathon. 

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I think I have to look at that, 
but I think marathon, half 

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marathon, there's probably more 
to talk about, but for the 

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marathon, probably those two. 
That makes sense. 

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I'll have comments on, I'll 
have. 

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Oh, I didn't put, I didn't say 
specs. 40 in the heel, 32 in the

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four foot 7.0 oz Men's size, 
998g so. 

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Yep, so pretty solid for the out
The lightest alpha fly thus far,

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right? 
And it's super responsive. 

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It's kind of like we were 
staying with the Cielo. 

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Like, I mean like someone could 
totally go rip a 5K and I just 

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feel like I I for me, it's just 
like I I feel like I lose 

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control of my body. 
Yep. 

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And I'll talk about that. 
Yeah, I definitely agree with 

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you on that. 
So my #3 is the Ultra Vanish 

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Carbon 2. 
So last year the Ulster Vanish 

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Carbon one came out and we were 
told supposedly has a people 

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based foam. 
It was a fun shoe to run in, it 

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just didn't feel super. 
The stack height wasn't quite 

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there, the foam really wasn't 
quite, it wasn't quite there 

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even though I really really 
enjoyed it. 

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So the version 2 takes 
everything and improves it. 

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So this is 8.1 oz for men, size 
95.8 oz for women size 8. 

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It's 36 in the heel, 36 in the 
four foot for obviously a 0mm 

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drop and even though they say 
it's ultra ego pro, it's 

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supposedly the same. 
This is a totally new formula 

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that really the second you put 
it on like oh this is a Piba PO 

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based foam. 
It's bouncy, it's soft, it is 

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the only anatom atomic zero drop
super racing shoe officially 

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now. 
So I can officially say this is 

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a racing shoe. 
It's been really fun. 

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It's really fun if you want. 
And at that wider toe box I have

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to be a little careful, because 
as much as I love ultra my 

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Achilles, a little sensitive and
that's why my dissertations on 

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Achilles tendinopathy, because 
I'm trying to go ahead. 

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How do I? 
Post It's like I got to get this

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PhD down from the masters. 
So the things that are much 

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better about this, so obviously 
midsole and responsiveness. 

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I, the second I had this was 
able to crack out like 5K10K 

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pace. 
Things that I would expect to be

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able to do in a super shoot. 
I'm like OK, I'm getting down to

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low fives. 
This is what I would expect for 

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me in this kind of shoe that I 
couldn't quite do in the 

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original version. 
I was like this has got pop and 

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it feels good not only doing 
that but also feels consistent 

444
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,840
over longer distances. 
So I have done a 10 mile up 

445
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,560
tempo run and it felt great. 
My Achilles was a little cranky 

446
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,720
afterwards. 
But if you prep your body and 

447
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,400
you use that you should be 
totally fine. 

448
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,360
The other thing it is much 
better is the outsole is also 

449
00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:12,600
much more durable. 
I've got 25 miles, no 30 miles 

450
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,080
of my pair and I have not ripped
to the outsole again. 

451
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,520
I'm going to be very honest. 
I'm hitting the midfoot now for 

452
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,640
people that know me. 
I used to land very poster 

453
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,080
lateral. 
Now I'm more than midfoot. 

454
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040
So I actually did catch this 
piece and it pulled off a little

455
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,760
bit but I I shoe glued it down 
and it's that's 15 that's like 

456
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,880
10 miles ago and it's been 
totally fine even with workouts.

457
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,400
So durability should be a lot 
better. 

458
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,240
Yes, it's much more expensive 
but I think for those of you 

459
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,960
that want this kind of knee shoe
with what the things that I 

460
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,960
think it is going to be worth it
now. 

461
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,800
So ultra much better job on 
this. 

462
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,440
All right. 
You ready for number? 

463
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,000
2:00 grab it. #2 is in my hands.
I'm ready. 

464
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:55,280
OK, 321. 
Yeah. 

465
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,760
OK. 
So the for the people that are 

466
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,800
watching, this might be a show 
you've never seen before. 

467
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,240
I. 
Forgot about that we should 

468
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,440
probably I forgot, but people 
are listening to this too, so 

469
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,680
this is. 
For #2 that I'm holding up, 

470
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,680
yeah, yeah, this is the and this
is the C2O2. 

471
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,920
So C2O2 is the model #5 GT. 
Kind of a lot of numbers. 

472
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,080
Is there a non? 
Five. 

473
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840
What's that? 
Is there a non 5 GT or is this a

474
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,760
non GT? 
Version I don't think there is I

475
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,800
don't know why they just want to
add a little grand trees. 

476
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,440
I don't know yeah yeah Grand 
Tour judgment yeah yeah so anti 

477
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,240
C2O2 fifth iteration of that 
shoe. 

478
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,840
The reason why it's called 2O2 
is because they when they made 

479
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,400
this shoe the world record at 
the time was 2O2 and then the C 

480
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,920
was stands for challenge. 
So it's like challenge the two O

481
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,680
2. 
So it's it's their super shoe 

482
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,840
for those that have never heard 
of ANSA before, they are a 

483
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,120
Chinese company, but they do 
have actually a website that can

484
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,960
sell within North America and 
they were they did send us some 

485
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,440
product recently and this is not
a recency bias, this shoe is the

486
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,200
real deal, but this is they also
sponsor Kennedys of Baquelay. 

487
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,840
So if you saw that 204 he did 
recently, I don't think it was 

488
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,360
in this shoe though. 
It looked like a different. 

489
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:13,920
One, it's in a different it's in
another. 

490
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,120
Version of that but. 
But he has run in this in his. 

491
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,040
He's run like 205. 
Or I think he's run. 

492
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,440
Yeah, he's run pretty fast. 
He might have even been to four 

493
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,560
again before, I don't remember. 
But no, he definitely because 

494
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,840
he's been with Anta for a little
while now. 

495
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,520
And anyways, this is their super
shoe. 

496
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,080
There is a couple reasons why 
it's #2 on my list it I mean 

497
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,520
one, it performs like this isn't
me just trying to hype up some 

498
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,280
company. 
This is a very solid shoe but 

499
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,720
they're. 
I'll just run off specs real 

500
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,560
quick. 
So specs 33 in the heel, so it's

501
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,400
lower, 25 in the forefoot, 8mm 
drop, 200 grams that basically 

502
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,440
equates to 7.0 oz. 
So basically the same weight as 

503
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,600
the alpha fly there and it's a 
very competitive weight. 

504
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,840
You know most super shoes are 
trying to get pretty close to 

505
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,520
that 7 oz range and locks down 
well. 

506
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,200
Translucent mesh, very neutral 
under foot. 

507
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,600
It's a very predictable familiar
pattern, like the way the 

508
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,720
geometry and everything set and 
then it has a real stiff carbon 

509
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,240
plate and it comes around there 
and it's a nitrogen infused PBO 

510
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,520
midsole and this thing flies 
like it's just one of those 

511
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,880
shoes that I have found that 
it's a little bit lower to the 

512
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,000
ground, so you also feel the 
ground a little bit more. 

513
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,640
The PBO they use is a little bit
firmer. 

514
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,880
It's not as like spongy, bouncy,
but it's like a firm and very 

515
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760
noticeable bounce off the 
forefoot and the way the rocker 

516
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,640
is put in the forefoot you get 
this nice rounding up front and 

517
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,920
what I didn't tell you guys is 
this shoes $180 which is 

518
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,040
significantly cheaper. 
That's also part of the reason 

519
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,800
why it's on my list, because 
it's like as good as a lot of 

520
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,320
these other super shoes. 
And if not better, and it's it's

521
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:57,960
like significantly less money. 
And they use a liquid rubber 

522
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,680
outsole, which is actually 
surprisingly grippy. 

523
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,920
I didn't think it. 
Yeah, very grippy. 

524
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,920
And durable, by the way. 
It survived me. 

525
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,920
So yeah, like, I didn't expect 
it to be that grippy. 

526
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,600
My first time wearing them, it 
was on a wet track and I thought

527
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,720
I was gonna be sliding. 
And then I, like, got on it and 

528
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,520
I was like, wait, this is 
holding. 

529
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,480
Like. 
And it was like, like holding 

530
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,040
holding. 
It wasn't like, yeah. 

531
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,520
And then yeah, ran on the roads.
Everything's fine turning fine. 

532
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,360
I mean it's definitely a very 
neutral mechanic base shoe, but 

533
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,640
it's like kind of like there's 
not really very many frills, 

534
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,040
light sole, flare, you know it's
it's it is what it is. 

535
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,800
It kind of reminds me of like 
the deviate Nitro Elite one that

536
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,280
we said it was very comfortable,
you know, kind of just felt like

537
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,080
a natural shoe is that one was a
little bit more flexible F4 

538
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,640
super shoe. 
This one's definitely stiff and 

539
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,120
it's more rockered. 
So it's it is different but I 

540
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,400
think some of those vibes that 
we were getting and that was 

541
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,880
also a lower stack height as 
well. 

542
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,800
If I remember correctly, that 
wasn't 40, the DV81. 

543
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,800
Yeah, it's also, I feel to me 
feels better AT5K10K paces what?

544
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,240
Do you? 
What? 

545
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,040
Do you agree? 
But I also think I can take it 

546
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520
half marathon, a marathon, like 
it's one of those things I can 

547
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,280
fall into rhythm and like, I 
feel like, yeah, 5K and 1/2, 

548
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,560
this thing is a killer and I 
know it's meant to go marathon, 

549
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,800
but like, yeah, like 5K and a 
half marathon. 

550
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,800
This thing is no joke. 
And I I think the marathon, it's

551
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,680
definitely doable, but it's just
going to, you just have to ask 

552
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,520
yourself whether or not you like
that for that long. 

553
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720
And I think I could. 
I think I could. 

554
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,560
Yeah, I don't think I could 
because the the only thing that 

555
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,560
I'm having a challenge with with
that shoe is the upper. 

556
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,840
It's like, it's definitely snug,
yeah, which I don't think I'd be

557
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,200
able to take it beyond 5K. 
The fit of it is like a 5K 

558
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,800
really. 
K Tikumi Sen almost. 

559
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Kind of like tight lockdown, 
yeah. 

560
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,400
Even at Tsuki Sen has a 
surprising round of room for me 

561
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,040
like that. 
That's the answer's a little 

562
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,720
more snug. 
So if you have narrow feet or 

563
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,560
like you want to snug right, it 
might be a good option. 

564
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,000
So yeah, Snug, neutral, 
lightweight, responsive. 

565
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320
It's it's the real deal. 
And it's cheap. 

566
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,680
Yeah, it's great. 
So my #2 is the Nike Alpha Fly 

567
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,480
three, and actually it's #2 for 
very similar reasons that David 

568
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,360
said. 
And again for specs, Men's size 

569
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,200
9 is coming in at 7-7 oz or 
198g. 

570
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,360
Women's size 8 is coming in at 
6.1 oz or about 174 grams, 40 in

571
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,240
the heel, 32 in the forefoot for
an 8mm drop, although it feels 

572
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,520
way taller than that. 
Again, again, similar sentiments

573
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,160
where I have quite a bit of 
experience with this shoe and 

574
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,600
it's it's it has an incredible 
amount of balance, could be one 

575
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,200
of the bouncest rights you feel 
and with that what it it feels 

576
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,440
awesome for longer efforts. 
I would not use this for 

577
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,720
anything easy because it feels 
very awkward. 

578
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,880
It feels like like baby deer as 
kind of feeling when you're 

579
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,280
trying to use this for any 
easier efforts. 

580
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,720
But if you pick up the pace or 
you're running like half 

581
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,400
marathon marathon pace, it feels
absolutely awesome. 

582
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,880
Like temple runs have I've blown
my paces out of the water. 

583
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Probably not for great not not 
great idea but it's just yeah it

584
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,520
just happens and I I agree with 
David though is it's it is hard 

585
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,840
to control you have to learn how
to control this shoe or you're 

586
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,760
it's going to like you're going 
to your wheels are going to come

587
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,320
off in terms of like yeah it 
will lengthen your stride out 

588
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,920
right. 
So if your hip flexors are stiff

589
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,200
or you're not used to getting 
that much hamstring motion on 

590
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,720
the way back you just got to 
prep your body for this and and 

591
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,000
take some time to use this 
before you race in it if you've 

592
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,080
never run any out flyer run in 
this shoe before. 

593
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,120
The other thing is I had the 
same experience with the amount 

594
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,000
of bounce under foot, 5K10K 
efforts I do struggle with 

595
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,480
because again I like I need to 
be able to turn over, I need to 

596
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,960
hit like hit the ground at 
certain pace. 

597
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,480
This does better at like longer 
floating things we can really 

598
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,440
bounce off the ground. 
So again, half marathon, 

599
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,560
marathon, this would be my first
choice. 

600
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,080
The thing that I would grab 
right now if I had to go run one

601
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,240
tomorrow in my life. 
I hadn't done 11:50 today, but 

602
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,680
yeah, I think it's it's just 
it's #2 because it doesn't have 

603
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,600
that versatility down at the 
short distances. 

604
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,600
But that's not what it is for. 
That's a little biased because 

605
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,960
my focus is on 5K10K and trying 
to build some resemblance of 

606
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,640
speed back right now. 
But it is an absolute favorite 

607
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,520
this year and definitely my top 
two of the year. 

608
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,080
Great, so we got one left. 
Number one, I have a. 

609
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Feeling it's going to be the. 
Same. 

610
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,920
It's probably be the same shoe, 
but this time, because we, I 

611
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,400
need to remember that we have 
people that are not not watching

612
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,720
this, but also listening. 
We will announce this as we 

613
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,400
actually oh, we're going. 
To announce it as we lift it up.

614
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,480
All right. 
All right, here we go. 

615
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,120
Yeah, 321. 
ASICS Meta Speed Edge, Paris. 

616
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,960
Yeah, I expected that. 
I had the same. 

617
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Hilarious if I said Edge and you
were holding the sky. 

618
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,000
Yeah, that's nice. 
Yeah, it's. 

619
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,040
Like they look the same. 
There there are some subtle 

620
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,160
differences. 
Yeah, they look. 

621
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,560
Every time I grab this shoe, I 
always double. 

622
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,720
Check. 
I grab. 

623
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,680
That's fair. 
I had to double check to go. 

624
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Did I grab like one pair of sky 
and one pair of edge or did I 

625
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,200
grab both? 
I will. 

626
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,080
Say the sky. 
Outso color for those who who 

627
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,440
can't see like the orange bottom
is sweet. 

628
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,720
Like it just I don't know it 
just looks cool. 

629
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,560
I like having. 
That I thought the black outsole

630
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,680
was clean, like 'cause they have
the black stripe and the black 

631
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,080
like, I feel like it accents the
shoe better. 

632
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,480
It feels like a lot. 
Of ones. 

633
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,240
But I just like that in in your 
face like if you if you're 

634
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,200
behind some do you see the 
orange like, oh OK, but I like 

635
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,120
the edge Paris better. 
So for consistency purposes, 

636
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,920
David, why don't you go first 
about why this is your top shoe 

637
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,240
of the year? 
Yeah. 

638
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,400
So a lot of the things I said 
about the Anta shoe is basically

639
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,080
this and then some, right? 
Like it is specs. 

640
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,280
We'll just start there because I
keep forgetting to do specs. 39 

641
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120
1/2 millimeters in the nail, 34 
1/2 in the four foot. 

642
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,320
So that's a 5mm drop. 6 1/2 oz 
My Men's size Nine 185g. 

643
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,640
This is a light, light shoe for 
being a super shoe at that stack

644
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,760
height. 
This is a direct competitor to 

645
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,720
the Vapor Fly. 
This is something. 

646
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,760
Yeah, it's actually much lighter
than the Vapor Fly and this and 

647
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,680
the and the the Sky Paris are 
the lightest widely commercial 

648
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,040
available super shoe super 
racing shoes on the market, not 

649
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480
including Adidas Evo, Pearl One,
which is obviously not as 

650
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,280
available. 
It's also half the price of the 

651
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Evil 1. 
So super lightweight has good 

652
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,880
traction under foot, very 
versatile early rocker kind of 

653
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,880
like we're talking about where 
it's like I mean a six markets 

654
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,960
is for someone that is a quote 
UN quote cadence runner, just 

655
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,320
meaning you like to get your 
feet under you. 

656
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,200
Now that whether or not that 
implies you know who it's best 

657
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,240
for, I I don't put as much stock
in that but I will say it does 

658
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,440
fall into rhythm nicely and I 
think by having that earlier 

659
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,960
rocker in there and more 
gradual, it does kind of let me 

660
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,480
turn over a little bit better as
well. 

661
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,440
So this is something that I 
could take 5K to marathon and 

662
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,520
that's without hesitation. 
So this is going to be number 

663
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,600
one or two at almost every 
distance right now for me, Road 

664
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,680
5 Ki did a track 5K in this that
did happen. 

665
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:07,080
So I did run a 5K in this. 
So it it's just a very versatile

666
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,560
good shoe. 
It it's aggressive when you want

667
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,760
it to be, but you can also sit 
back and fall into rhythm and 

668
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,040
relax. 
And so that's why whenever the 

669
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,560
next marathon does come around, 
I'm not going to run a marathon 

670
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,200
this year. 
So if anyone's going to want to 

671
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,800
watch me run to a marathon, it's
not going to happen. 

672
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,200
But the I will do 1/2 at least 
in the second-half of the year. 

673
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,800
So that's going to be a hard 
conversation between this, the 

674
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,840
alpha fly and the Endorphin 
elite, because I love all of 

675
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,840
them. 
So they're very, very solid 

676
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,200
shoe, well-rounded. 
It's a it's just a gradual shoe,

677
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,120
Like it's not super extreme on 
either end on the geometry. 

678
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,760
I think it's one of the things I
like about it too. 

679
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,920
Yeah, I would definitely agree 
it. 

680
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,000
Also, this is the one of the 
first times I felt like a super 

681
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560
shoe was a racing flat. 
Yeah, no, that's, that's. 

682
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Like, yeah, it's it's Max stack 
height where it's three, it's 39

683
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,480
1/2 in the heel, 34 1/2 in the 
four for a 5mm drop. 

684
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,560
Although I didn't realize it was
5, it felt almost exactly the 

685
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,960
same as the previous the Edge. 
Plus it was like almost like 8 

686
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,639
and that's probably because of 
the play and the geometry 

687
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,199
actually rolls you forward 
really nice. 

688
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,400
Per our conversations with 
ASICS, the biggest difference 

689
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,080
between these now is it's it's 
not about whether your cadence 

690
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,719
or stride runner, it's how you 
they're saying, it's how you you

691
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,639
accelerate. 
So if you accelerate by 

692
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,480
increasing your cadence, edge is
better for you. 

693
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,080
If you accelerate by lengthening
your stride, the sky is better, 

694
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,880
which is why we've had 
conversations where different 

695
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,840
ones actually work at different 
times. 

696
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,120
So like for me, I've also raced 
a 5K in this shoe because it was

697
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,520
like not there was no hesitation
this was going to be it. 

698
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,880
And what I noticed is what it 
where it works really, really 

699
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,800
well other than being super 
light. 

700
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,320
So it feels like a racing flat 
finally and it just got great 

701
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,760
bounce. 
You can just kind of forget 

702
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,160
about it, can cruise, it can go 
5K pace. 

703
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,440
So for me, 5K and a half 
marathon, the only reason I 

704
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,040
don't think I could take this 
beyond half marathon is just 

705
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,440
because it it does have some 
mild guidance elements, but not 

706
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,960
probably enough for me to take 
to a marathon unless I was in 

707
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,960
really, really good shape. 
So yeah, most people easy 

708
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,880
marathon shoe for me, probably 
Max at half marathon just for 

709
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,760
the guidance stuff. 
So it's not terrible, it's just 

710
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,120
not the best of what I need for 
that distance, but it can still 

711
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,320
move and it can move at those 
variety pace. 

712
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,080
So if I take it 5K, if I want to
do a Temple Run, this is kind of

713
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,040
my go to shoe where either if 
I'm going to race or if I'm 

714
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,280
doing dumb things. 
Like right now I do a lot of 

715
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,280
double workouts where I do a 
workout in the morning, a 

716
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,400
workout in the evening. 
This is usually the one that's 

717
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,600
on either the more serious of 
the two or the second workout 

718
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,760
where I need just a little more 
oomph to get and help me 

719
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,320
survive. 
So it's been good. 

720
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,040
Upper fit is great, where it's 
like it's just it's got a little

721
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,240
extra volume. 
So it's still that kind of very 

722
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:52,240
secure fit, super light, but it 
still doesn't feel like it's 

723
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,440
squashing you and you forget 
about it. 

724
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,000
It's so light. 
And then what I loved about this

725
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,240
is when I was doing my 5 Ki was 
cranking off like just under 

726
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:01,760
five 30s. 
And I'm like, OK, this is 

727
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,440
feeling good. 
Like, and then I was kind of 

728
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,040
going, when am I going to start 
to struggle? 

729
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,920
And as I got in the last mile, I
could feel myself to starting to

730
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,240
tire. 
You know, when you start to spin

731
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,480
your legs a little bit, you're 
like, oh, maybe if I just get my

732
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,120
cadence going a little quicker. 
Most shoes that doesn't do 

733
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,360
anything. 
This it did because again, as I 

734
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,520
tried to accelerate, it rolled 
really nicely and I got a little

735
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,600
boost. 
And then I was racing at the San

736
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,880
Anita Derby and you finish on 
the horse track, so on the soft 

737
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,320
dirt. 
So everything fell apart when I 

738
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,600
hit the soft dirt because it's 
obviously not a trail shoe and 

739
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,400
I'm not super stable. 
So you can see some really fun 

740
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,760
pictures of me trying not to dry
heave as I was trying to keep 

741
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,520
myself up and not fall over at 
the very end of that race if you

742
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,800
look look it up. 
But I would not hesitate to 

743
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,320
choose this for anything up from
5K to half marathon. 

744
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,960
It's just a great right. 
The other thing again, my left 

745
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,160
shoe. 
I have 100 miles on this and 

746
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,920
capsule is still fairly intact 
and it still feels good like I 

747
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,960
could I feel like I can get 
another 100 miles out of the 

748
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600
shoe. 
It's been it's it's been just a 

749
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,840
solid awesome shoe. 
The sky I think is close just my

750
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,440
mechanics don't match that well 
because my I don't unless I'm 

751
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,240
fatigued I don't really tend to 
lengthen my stride anymore. 

752
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,520
But it's still a really solid 
shoe that actually I don't know 

753
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,160
if the forefoot just feels a 
little more stable. 

754
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,440
So we talked about this. 
I might consider that for a 

755
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,440
marathon but again I think the 
alpha fly wins that for me. 

756
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,080
But yeah, the edge of the two, 
it's just such a massive 

757
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,560
improvement for ASICS where no 
offense for those listening the 

758
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,920
pluses just didn't do it. 
Like the Edge Plus was decent, 

759
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,320
but it just wasn't where I felt 
like things could have been 

760
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,600
compared to the original Meta 
Speed Sky Tokyo, which is 

761
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,600
incredibly bouncy and it was 
like, wow, this is real. 

762
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,840
This is the follow up to that 
with the necessary permits being

763
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,880
the lightest widely commercial 
available racing show in the 

764
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,760
market. 
So, yeah, great job basics on 

765
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,360
this, on this model and the sky 
because it was a really, really 

766
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,520
big thing. 
So that concludes our talk of 

767
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,920
what the best ones of 2024 are 
so far and we still have a 

768
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,520
little time. 
So what we wanted to finish with

769
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,720
is actually kind of following up
from what David's experienced 

770
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,800
and hopefully some other people 
are kind of going what, what's 

771
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,520
going on. 
So with these super shoes and 

772
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,880
super foams, there's nothing 
inherently wrong or bad about 

773
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,240
them. 
OK, Then this is going to 

774
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,800
include some of the Super train,
some of the Super traders, not 

775
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,320
all. 
But you have to realize when you

776
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,440
expose yourself to something 
very, very different like these 

777
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,680
super racing shoes, the very, 
very soft resilient foams, your 

778
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,560
body will adapt to that. 
It's adapting to the shoe. 

779
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000
So you will have changes to it. 
If you start spending a lot of 

780
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,440
time in their in those shoes, 
which there's nothing wrong with

781
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,200
that. 
You just have to recognize that 

782
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,880
if you start to try to 
transition quickly to something 

783
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,400
else that doesn't have those 
properties, it either is going 

784
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,400
to feel a little bit weird or 
there are some inherent risk if 

785
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,560
you go too quick because these 
are so drastically different, a 

786
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,160
lot of traditional shoes or in 
David's case even some of the 

787
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,800
newer super spikes. 
So David, what are some of the 

788
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,000
changes that are like the the 
adaptations you felt trying to 

789
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,000
go from like super racing shoes 
to either trainers or non super 

790
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,240
shoes or to rate to spikes? 
I think that's a great thing to 

791
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:09,680
bring up. 
And I'm going to bring up 

792
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,720
something that you said earlier 
that they're still spikes. 

793
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,440
And I think that is important to
mention. 

794
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,160
Because yes, they are a little 
bit more forgiving than spikes 

795
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,680
used to be and they give you a 
little bit more responsiveness. 

796
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,600
And they probably, you know, you
probably do have a little bit 

797
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,720
less fatigue on your legs going 
into the final mile of a 5K10K, 

798
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:35,400
whatever. 
But they're still spikes. 

799
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,080
And when you look at the way 
these shoes are configured, they

800
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,760
are very different from each 
other. 

801
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,360
And when you look at a super 
shoe, let's just say it's at the

802
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,840
40mm stack height and it's maybe
an 8mm drop and it's got a nice 

803
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:54,480
rocker to it and it basically 
takes the work out of your ankle

804
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,720
to some degree. 
It kind of lets you roll. 

805
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,800
And we talked about with these 
rocker shoes that your muscles 

806
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,760
have a little bit more stiffness
around the joint. 

807
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,960
And that you're kind of more in 
the cyclical motion and that 

808
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,760
range of motion requirement kind
of gets decreased to some degree

809
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,320
at least at the ankle and when 
you look. 

810
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,120
It can increase at in other 
joints, but ankle, yes generally

811
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,480
is a is supposedly if this 
geometry, the foam and the plate

812
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,080
line up with your mechanics can 
supposedly decrease some of the 

813
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,000
requirements put upon of the 
ankle. 

814
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,240
Yeah. 
And so, taking all that into 

815
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,400
consideration, now let's take a 
look at a spike. 

816
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,880
The spike is gonna be 0 drop if 
not negative. 

817
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,800
And I gotta say some of the 
spike, like I know some of the 

818
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,120
companies are listing the stack 
of their spikes and I'm like 

819
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,960
there's no way that's like not a
negative drop shoe like some of 

820
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,480
the new Adidas distance spike, 
but the the new Avanti which 

821
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,000
looks. 
Sick. 

822
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,320
Like it looks so cool. 
It looks really cool, but I'm 

823
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,400
looking at going that's like a 
negative like 5 or 10mm drop 

824
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,560
shoe, which I'm like, how are 
you gonna run the disc But 

825
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,280
people are. 
I'm like that looks like a 

826
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,640
negative. 
How are you gonna do that just? 

827
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Fine distance and yesterday I'm 
sure he did, yeah. 

828
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,600
But that to be fair, it's 
probably because he's hopefully 

829
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,200
it's taken some time to adjust 
to that because when you start 

830
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,960
getting into zero drop shoes, 
which is again, as much as I 

831
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,920
love the ultra vanished carbon 
two, one of the challenges I 

832
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,440
have with it is if I spend too 
much time in it and I don't 

833
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,000
adjust to it, yeah, I start to 
feel it in in my Achilles 

834
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,560
insertion in the tendon I get 
little irritations because I at 

835
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,200
the moment haven't taken the 
time to work through the range 

836
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,400
of motions required of my 
Achilles and of my calf muscles.

837
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,800
I've got the, I've got the 
strength, but not necessarily in

838
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,320
those ranges of motion. 
So I have to be very careful. 

839
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,200
And you know, that's when you 
put a spike on, you're like, 

840
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,920
where's the heel? 
Like, doesn't matter if there's 

841
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,880
a it doesn't matter how much 
super fault, like, yeah they've 

842
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,560
got super phones there, but it's
like I my forefoot's higher than

843
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,080
my heel. 
Like there's more range 

844
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,320
required. 
Which, you know, for running 

845
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,360
faster is not a bad thing 
because for people that don't 

846
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,200
know, you actually generate more
torque from your ankle plantar 

847
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,320
flexures into greater degrees of
dorsiflexion. 

848
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,840
Oh yeah. 
So I'm not surprised, but you 

849
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,600
have to be a like, ready for 
that and have practiced with 

850
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,640
that to adequately generate the 
power and forcedness to be 

851
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,320
effective over something longer 
than you know. 

852
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,920
A mile A. 
Couple a couple strides. 800 

853
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,520
meters. 
So, yeah, yeah. 

854
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,840
So that's that is definitely 
what the range of motion 

855
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,640
requirements at the ankle are. 
Definitely one thing and the 

856
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,000
some of the other things is the 
the amount and you mentioned 

857
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,240
this, the amount of foam and I 
know people like I harp on 

858
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,600
phones, but the amount of 
midsole material underneath 

859
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,520
these super shoes and like some 
of them we mentioned the Cielo 

860
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,920
X1. 
Yeah, you're you're on it 

861
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,640
tonight. 
You're good. 

862
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,640
I'm just checking, gosh, just 
waiting for the comments 

863
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,680
section. 
The CLX one is a 46mm and a 

864
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,240
heel, so there's there's a ton 
of foam under foot. 

865
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:01,080
If you go from that back down to
something in the 20s, it's very,

866
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,920
it's a very different feel in 
terms of the the resiliency and 

867
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,800
cushioning under your foot. 
I want to be careful with the 

868
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,040
term stiffness because usually 
people use stiffness was 

869
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,920
longitudinal bending, how stiff 
the shoe feels as you transition

870
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,000
through it. 
So there's very different 

871
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,080
cushioning properties, and when 
you're on a very tall, softer, 

872
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,240
resilient foam, your body 
naturally stiffens up, right? 

873
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,520
Your body goes basically, I 
don't need to worry as much 

874
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,480
about, like, shock absorption 
because I have a soft foam 

875
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,880
underneath me, so I'm going to 
stiffen up to try to find 

876
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,800
stability. 
This is very natural adaptation 

877
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,360
that happens, which is why when 
you've been running in a ton of 

878
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,440
super shoes or super foams, you 
go back to your traditional 

879
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,600
shoe, it feels not cushioned and
you you kind of feel stiff and 

880
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,000
it's hard to shock absorb 
because your body's adapted to a

881
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,800
different stimulus and now 
you're asking it something else.

882
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,800
So it's the range of motion 
requirements of the ankle, the 

883
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,160
lower stack height as well going
well now I'm actually hitting a 

884
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,040
getting a little more 
proprioceptive input. 

885
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,000
Now I need to shock, absorb and 
get a little more range, which 

886
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,000
your body hasn't been doing. 
Not necessarily bad, but what 

887
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,280
you have to be careful with is 
the transition between the two. 

888
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,920
If you take anything you could 
go from a traditional shoe or a 

889
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,760
spike to a super shoe. 
If you do that too quickly, you 

890
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,680
got to give tissues time to 
adapt or you're going to cause 

891
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,200
some tissue damage quicker than 
it can heal, right. 

892
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,880
So you got to let your body 
adapt to that. 

893
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,400
It can it can go the opposite 
way, going the Super shoe to a 

894
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,600
traditional trainer to or to a 
spike like. 

895
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,200
You have to give yourself time 
to adapt these stimuluses 

896
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,880
because your body will adapt and
change to the shoe that you put 

897
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,400
it that you put on. 
That's just normal you our 

898
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,960
bodies are adapt. 
Like when you go run on trail, 

899
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,200
your body will adapt and start 
going, OK, how do I, you know, 

900
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,520
get the range of motion and get 
a little more stability to adapt

901
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,640
the varying surfaces? 
And you go back on the road, 

902
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,720
You're like, why does the road 
feel stiffer than I remember? 

903
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,080
It's like because your nervous 
system in your body is adapting 

904
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,280
to that. 
So if you make big transitions, 

905
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,440
you know there is a little 
inherent risk of injury. 

906
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,240
And it does happen. 
Which is why we always tell you 

907
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,240
no matter what you're going 
toward, take your time. 

908
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,120
It doesn't matter what direction
you're going. 

909
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,080
And you know David and I and 
Nathan, Bach and BJ and Andre 

910
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,400
don't always do that. 
We are not perfect human beings,

911
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,760
but we try to pay attention to 
that and that's hopefully helps 

912
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,120
you understand why some of these
shoes feel different. 

913
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,840
And then what we have to also be
I have to be careful with is if 

914
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,440
I've been running in a a very 
different shoe type and I 

915
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,240
suddenly put one of these other 
ones to do a review in. 

916
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:29,760
I have to remember hold on. 
I need to take a little bit to 

917
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,040
get used to this before I come 
to any conclusion because 

918
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,600
drastic changes also your 
sensory system gets overwhelmed 

919
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,040
going well this is so different 
and so it can it can make it 

920
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,440
very easy to hype a shoe up when
it's like actually it's not that

921
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,840
different from a lot of the 
other models. 

922
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,000
So it's something that we have 
to think about too. 

923
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,480
We're trying to review and give 
you an accurate like 

924
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,760
representation of what we're 
experiencing in the shoe. 

925
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,560
Did I miss anything on that in 
terms of differences in things 

926
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,960
to think about unless you want 
to take the Spike game a little 

927
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,920
farther, like what? 
You know, prepping and. 

928
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,400
Now I'll just make it a little 
bit. 

929
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Well, I mean, I just start 
earlier. 

930
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,080
I didn't rush it per SE. 
I just didn't go very far in 

931
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,320
them. 
So it was almost as if like I 

932
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,920
was starting the transition. 
I just started the transition 

933
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,680
too late in the game. 
Like I just wasn't running any 

934
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,280
more than maybe AK in them, you 
know? 

935
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,240
And then you go and ask it to go
run 5K in them like. 

936
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,040
It sounds like you were also 
dealing with a little bit of 

937
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,760
irritation too, so I too would 
probably. 

938
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,840
Yeah, I probably spent a lot of 
time. 

939
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,600
In the shoe like that as well at
all that. 

940
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,240
Yesterday, But no, I think you 
you hit everything really well. 

941
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:43,080
I think like you said, you get 
more force, more torque out of 

942
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,880
that larger range of motion at 
the ankle, and it's one of the 

943
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,040
reasons why spikes are more 
powerful shoes to run in. 

944
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,560
But the word power is in there, 
and you need to have power in 

945
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,760
order to use them effectively. 
And if you don't, then you kind 

946
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,840
of start falling further back. 
It feels like you're climbing 

947
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,720
out of the shoe and now 
everything just hurts and 

948
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:02,440
nothing's natural or feeling 
good. 

949
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,600
So just transition into it and 
make sure you have good, just 

950
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,640
good eccentric control through 
that Achilles and good power 

951
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,080
popping off your forefoot 
because that's what's required 

952
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,600
of you when you run and track 
spikes. 

953
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,960
And truth be told, I probably 
was not ready to run in track 

954
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,760
spikes for 5000 meters. 
And that's that's my fault and 

955
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,000
that was my own pride kind of 
getting in the way there. 

956
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,560
But. 
But, but this is a good, this is

957
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,760
a good lesson, because I feel 
like the same thing also applies

958
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,360
for a lot of people when they're
starting to look for a racing 

959
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,520
shoe and they go, you know what,
I want the fastest thing 

960
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,320
possible. 
So we've had people ask us like,

961
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,000
oh, my marathon or whatever's in
a few weeks, you know, what's 

962
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,040
the best shoe for me? 
And we're sitting there going. 

963
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,040
I would hesitate to have you 
change something now because you

964
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,000
actually haven't put the time in
with and some people can get 

965
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,880
away with this, but most people 
like you. 

966
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,280
You need to put time in a shoe 
before you go take it to like 

967
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,800
1/2 marathon or marathon 
distance to make sure you can 

968
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,560
control it and be okay with it 
for that long. 

969
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,000
So I'm going to give it a little
shout out to one of my previous 

970
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Kaiser coworkers, Phil, who did 
a great job at the OC marathon 

971
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080
today and ran a three O 8, which
was much faster than he was 

972
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,560
expecting. 
And one of the things he talked 

973
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,920
to me about and I got his 
consent for this. 

974
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,280
One of the things he talked 
about was asking me, hey, should

975
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,880
I go run in the edge? 
Paris? 

976
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,640
I'm really interested in the 
meditated Paris and I'm like, 

977
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,280
what have you trained in that? 
And this is like a week or so 

978
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,200
before the marathon. 
He's like, no, I really enjoy 

979
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,960
the Super blast. 
But I I want something like, I 

980
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,560
really, I've done all my 
training, I've done all my long 

981
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,680
runs, but I want something. 
I'm not sure if I should get 

982
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,800
something faster because I want 
to try to run 315. 

983
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,360
And I was sitting there going 
dude like you should just take 

984
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,360
the Super blast, you know 
because it that's the shoe 

985
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,520
you've spent the most time in 
and it's what you're most 

986
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,800
comfortable when you start 
getting like for most people 

987
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,200
half marathon especially the 
marathon that's a long race and 

988
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,480
you want to make sure you're 
comfortable and you can control 

989
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,720
that shoe for that distance 
which for me I wouldn't for you 

990
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,840
might I wouldn't take the edge 
Paris for a marathon because I 

991
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,680
can't control I don't have the 
stability to do that for that 

992
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,120
long. 
Up to half Marathon yes maybe 

993
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,480
but marathon no. 
So I, if I had to pick between 

994
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,320
the two would take the Super 
blast and the reason you I we 

995
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,680
can do this is because we're not
the elite. 

996
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,960
Elite competing in the world 
athletic stuff. 

997
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,480
So yes, they called them illegal
shoes, but I think a lot of 

998
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,400
these super trainers, you know, 
especially like the Super Blast 

999
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,200
or a lot of the lightweight 
trainers out there, aren't 

1000
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,360
totally fine to be used as a 
racing shoe. 

1001
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,360
Because the other thing I ought 
to pay attention to was spikes 

1002
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,160
or the Super racing shoes is 
that they are very aggressive. 

1003
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:40,000
Like the alpha fly is a crazy 
shoe that again, if I don't have

1004
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,640
control over, I'm not going to 
pick it for race. 

1005
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,320
It's why it's my #2 and not #1. 
Because it's that crazy that I 

1006
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,440
would have to train in it to use
it effectively as a tool. 

1007
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:52,480
A lot of people should consider 
alternative to these if they 

1008
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,840
really can't control the shoe up
to a marathon. 

1009
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,440
If it's not feeling good on long
runs, something else might do. 

1010
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,960
And just because it's quote UN 
quote illegal, most of us don't 

1011
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,880
worry about that. 
So see like the Super Blast. 

1012
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,840
A great option to consider the 
neo Vista from Azuna that I'm 

1013
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,880
running right now. 
Also really great option, not 

1014
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,560
plated right? 
Or not not carbon plated. 

1015
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,160
It's got a fiberglass plate, 
which is a little more flexible,

1016
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,160
but it it feels fine, right? 
It's kind of training a little 

1017
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,200
rate, a little faster stuff. 
Some of that you don't have to 

1018
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,280
get the quote UN quote, fastest 
shoe on the market. 

1019
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,880
The shoe that's going to help 
you finish is going to be the 

1020
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,600
fastest shoe for you, not the 
one that you think is the 

1021
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,280
lightest fastest. 
But you only get part way 

1022
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,040
through. 
So that would encourage a lot of

1023
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,440
people to start thinking about 
the going what is actually best 

1024
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,680
for me rather than my buddy or 
you know, Kennedy Subickele or 

1025
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,800
Kipchoge or you know, whomever. 
Any thoughts? 

1026
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,040
On that I mean it. 
Just like, stick with your gut 

1027
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,760
like you're like, oh, like this 
is the shoe. 

1028
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Or like just trust what you've 
known you're like, you've been 

1029
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,000
doing this in this shoe. 
You obviously are capable of 

1030
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,360
doing this in that shoe. 
Don't let marketing don't let 

1031
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,280
your own head get in your way. 
And it's easy for me to say, you

1032
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,600
know, it's like we're all human.
It's like you see something 

1033
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,480
you're like, but I want to be 
faster. 

1034
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,200
I want to, you know, like 
whatever it is. 

1035
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,080
And it's like, no, it's not 
really the case. 

1036
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,600
Because if you're not like, 
let's say you do run the 1st 3/4

1037
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,360
of that race faster, but then 
you blow up and the back quarter

1038
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,240
of it isn't very good. 
And if you had just run a 

1039
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:21,840
consistent pace from the 
beginning in a shoe you're 

1040
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,760
comfortable in, chances are 
you're probably going to run 

1041
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,800
faster in that second scenario 
than you did in the first, 

1042
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,920
unless you were really far ahead
of pace. 

1043
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,120
And so, yeah, I think just just 
stick to your guns and what you 

1044
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,080
know. 
And there, if you are interested

1045
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,960
in a shoe, then the time will 
come where you try it and then 

1046
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,800
build up for the next race. 
But if it's a close proximity to

1047
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,480
something that's coming up on 
immediately on the calendar, 

1048
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,600
don't do it. 
Right. 

1049
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Don't make big changes at the 
last second. 

1050
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,240
Like I said, some people can get
away with that, but kind of 

1051
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,360
there are inherent risks of 
doing that. 

1052
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,960
Take the shoe that you've 
actually built up with and 

1053
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,080
trained in, right? 
Like in terms of getting your 

1054
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,960
body used to that, no matter 
what it is, whether it's track 

1055
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,440
spikes as as David's telling 
you, like you do need to prepare

1056
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,040
for that, but then ultimately 
choose. 

1057
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,480
Are you going to use this or are
you going to use a super shoe 

1058
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,200
that you're more a super racing 
shoe, Rd. shoe that you're more 

1059
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,760
comfortable with or you know for
the marathon distance. 

1060
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,280
If you're having trouble, the 
goal is to finish, you know, 

1061
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,040
finish fast, but you have to 
finish to get that time. 

1062
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,360
An alternative may be better. 
A training shoe might be better,

1063
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,240
you know, a super trainer might 
be better. 

1064
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,680
So just think about and David 
said this really well, don't let

1065
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,560
the marketing catch you, don't 
let us hype it up because I know

1066
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,080
we definitely get really, really
excited. 

1067
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,920
It's it's natural. 
We're not trying to sell you 

1068
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,400
products. 
We have and never have accepted 

1069
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,040
financial like in like anything 
from companies to review shoe 

1070
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,920
and we will never, I will never 
let people pay us to review 

1071
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,040
stuff. 
It's tough luck. 

1072
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,400
We all have. 
We all have day jobs, So tough, 

1073
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,680
but we still get excited. 
We don't. 

1074
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,720
While we might get excited, I 
don't want to hype you about 

1075
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:53,360
something that might not work 
for you. 

1076
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,840
The goal of this website is to 
educate you on what works best 

1077
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,440
for you as individual and nobody
else. 

1078
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:03,520
So hope that helps. 
David, any last closing? 

1079
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:06,320
Thoughts. 
That's great. 

1080
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,280
Yeah. 
Oh, by the way, I feel like off 

1081
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,880
topic. 
Maybe BJ might cut out, but it's

1082
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,480
actually really a big deal when 
we make it under an hour because

1083
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,320
especially me blab. 
For now, David's great, I blab. 

1084
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,440
But we always appreciate you 
listening to us blabbering on 

1085
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,880
about shoes and what have you. 
We really hope this is helpful. 

1086
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,680
As always, please feel free to 
e-mail us. 

1087
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,120
I know we're really slow, but 
we're always interested in what 

1088
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,440
you want to know about for our 
mail back episodes. 

1089
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,400
Because what you care about is 
what we care about. 

1090
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,360
Because we want to share not 
only all the stuff that we're we

1091
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,080
we know, but also the stuff that
we're learning with you. 

1092
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,520
Because we love it. 
We geek out. 

1093
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,320
We want to make this as exciting
for you and help you learn more 

1094
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,560
about what's going to work for 
you. 

1095
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,680
You can find us on a variety of 
other places other than emailing

1096
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,120
us. 
Obviously we've got various 

1097
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,440
social media channels, be it 
Instagram, be it XI, keep 

1098
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,520
forgetting to call it that via 
LinkedIn, all the other places 

1099
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,240
Strava, you can find us there. 
Our YouTube has been doing 

1100
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,480
really, really great recently. 
So we really, really appreciate 

1101
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,880
everybody that subscribes. 
That always is really, really 

1102
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,240
cool. 
If you're watching us here or if

1103
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,480
you're listening to us via 
Spotify, what have you. 

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We hope these conversations keep
you comfortable on your workouts

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and long runs and we always 
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So again, please give us a like 
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It really, really does help us. 
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listening or iTunes, please 
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That also really, really helps 
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us for what we want to do and 
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as well. 
As always, hope you geek out. 

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Comment below if you have any 
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what your top three favorite 
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any honorary mentions. 
And finally, I also want to know

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if there's anything else that 
you're this year that you're 

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excited for. 
What is it? 

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Did we miss anything? 
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Included give it to. 
Us trail trail racing shoes 

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included, we're we always 
appreciate that feedback. 

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So thanks again for listening 
and hope wherever you are having

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an awesome time and awesome run 
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