1 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:13,200 Hey everyone, welcome to the doctors Running podcast for we a 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,000 group of doctors and physical therapy talk about the art and 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,720 the science of the things we put on our feet today. 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,560 I'm your host Matt hosting with the everal awesome doctor David 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,080 Salas here who's joining me. And what we are going to do is 6 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:28,840 try to condense down a very complex topic. 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,159 We are starting to realize said as we are looking through the 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,680 year of shoes that have come out that there are many companies 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,600 who have a lot of shoes in their lineup. 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,360 In fact, many more than I think ever in the past. 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,840 And one of the big ones that we want to start with was ASIC. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,040 So we have tons of stuff that we're going to go through. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,080 So we're going to have our traditional training shoes, both 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,400 traditional like the kind of inline and premium. 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,920 We'll talk about stability trainers, we're going to talk 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,520 about the lightweight performance trainers or some of 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,400 what David often calls like the the companion shoes. 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,600 And I got to give you credit for that. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,760 We'll talk about racing flats and we'll talk about a last 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,239 category that we are trying to decide where these go because 21 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,000 they seem to check off a lot of different boxes. 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,720 So let's jump in, David, if you're OK with that, into the 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,560 bread and butter of ASIC shoes, which is the Gel Cumulus 26 and 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,160 the Gel Nimbus 26. So what do you want to tell us 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,040 first about these two shoes and kind of where they fit? 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,000 Yeah. I think First off, these have 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,880 kind of been some of the flagship type models we've seen 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,400 from the company. They're on the 26th version now 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,920 on both these. So they're long standing shoes. 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,320 Traditionally when we looked at the ASICS Cumulus, that has 31 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:38,360 always been kind of like their normal neutral trainer with the 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,120 Nimbus being the premium trainer to that. 33 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:45,400 In recent years, we have seen a lot of changes to both of those 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,440 models. And for the listeners, Matt is 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,000 holding up the shoes right now and the Cumulus has kind of 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,640 always been and again, this is not the current model, but 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,320 traditionally it's always kind of been that neutral high drop 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,520 kind of trainer. But they shifted that quite a 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,680 bit. And now the new Cumulus is a 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,800 little bit more of a flatter geometry through the heel and 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,200 midfoot, but has a sharper toe spring up front. 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,919 They now integrate it with pure gel midsole and Blast plus 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,160 midsole and it's a rubberized DVA outsole, which is the first 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,000 time they've done that right? They've never done that before 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,360 in the Cumulus line. You. 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,800 Know the goal of that, yeah, they've always had outsoles for 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,000 sure, decent, decent ones. And then they went to the 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,880 rubberized one which was supposed to cut some weight off, 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,400 but I I have just end up chewing through it. 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,480 So I'm probably not the best match for this shoe anyway. 51 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,560 And then that one is going to be pretty close to your 40mm of 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,440 stack, a little bit underneath actually, I think it's like 38 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,720 in the heel. And then when we look at the 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,640 Nimbus, again, that's the premium training model. 55 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:45,480 So that one's a little bit higher than 40 now, which is 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,800 kind of wild to think that that's just kind of normal for 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,560 the premium trainers now, because that is pretty high up, 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,160 you know, So if we're looking at give or take 42mm of stack, and 59 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,040 that one's also a blend of pure gel and blast plus eco. 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,720 So the main idea of these shoes is to kind of be that workhorse 61 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,800 daily trainer for you that you go and you just pound miles away 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,640 on. And I think for the most part 63 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,440 they get the job done, but they they, like you said, the 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,160 Cumulus, you kind of chew through a little bit. 65 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,640 So it's kind of surprising to see a rubberized Eva on a 66 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:16,360 workhorse neutral shoe, whereas you have the Ahar plus I think 67 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,200 on the on the Nimbus there, which is the high abrasion 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,640 rubber from the company. But yeah, Nimbus is kind of more 69 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:26,200 of a normal rocker experience. High stack Cumulus is very 4 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,480 foot forward where it's that sharper toe spring up front. 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:30,880 But yeah, what do you, what do you think? 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,000 I so as I the the nimbus has been really good. 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,520 I think they got the heel bevel a little better. 74 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,440 It's definitely that flagship daily training shoe that's 75 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,960 maximally stacked. That's now actually like above 76 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,400 what we consider kind of Max sack. 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,880 We're getting above that 40mm in one of the shoes along with 78 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,320 several others that have gone that direction. 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,160 So you want soft cushioning this of the group is probably one of 80 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,560 the best ones. The cumulus is weird to me 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,040 because it's way like yeah, it's it's one of the lighter neutral 82 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,160 daily training shoes out there. I just had trouble with this 83 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,560 because the toe spring is so sharp it shortens the shoe. 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,240 So I would consider going 1/2 size up and that might fix it. 85 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,520 But I kind of have limited miles because a durability wasn't 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,680 super hot. The this was felt a little bit 87 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,040 short, but it was great because, and this is maybe a little 88 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,200 challenge is this seems to overlap in a lot of the 89 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,279 performance trainers where it's actually light enough that it 90 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,040 sits with them. But if you also compare this to 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:27,320 your Nova blast and even almost your magic speed that they're 92 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,880 kind of in these similar weight range and this actually turns 93 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,160 over really well. The previous one did as well, 94 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,720 but this the it's just so rockard now. 95 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,400 It's very different where I, I can't believe I'd say the Nimbus 96 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,840 is less rocker than that because kind of like one of your 97 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:44,040 flagship maximalist shoes, Cumulus is really rocker. 98 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,080 And so there's a lot of overlap. And I'd say if you just are OK 99 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,280 with the shoe that's just a little bit short, you want to 100 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:50,960 shoot, it's also pretty affordable coming in. 101 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,920 It's 140, right? Am I saying that right? 102 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's 1:40, so not. 103 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,320 So definitely one of the, I never thought I would say this 104 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,760 one of the cheaper models out there that still has a good ride 105 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,560 and kind of can have some versatility. 106 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,160 That's where the Cumulus is sitting. 107 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,680 That's just a teeny bit snug. But your your Nimbus is you're 108 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,520 like, Hey, I really want to shoe that I can walk all day and that 109 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,040 I can stand all day and that like the that soft running 110 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,120 experience as well. It really checks those box up. 111 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Well, this is one that we generally suggestion people to 112 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,680 ask us about walking and standing shoes. 113 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,560 It's a really, really good option because also has, even 114 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,520 though it's so soft, some some inherent geometrical ways that 115 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,960 make it a little bit inherently stable. 116 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Not a stability shoe by any means. 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,280 So of the two of these, I think for a couple extra bucks, I'm 118 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,040 personally going to choose the Cumulus. 119 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,080 I mean, sorry, the Nimbus, because it really stands out a 120 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,640 lot from a lot of the different models. 121 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,720 Well, there's one that has some overlap, but I still think does 122 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,240 better than this. But yeah, the Cumulus is the 123 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640 weird one where there's some shoes that kind of fit a lot of 124 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,840 those boxes. The other shoe that fits in this 125 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:55,280 category that we did initially mention is now the new Glide 126 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:59,400 Ride Max that just came out, which is a little bit higher 127 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,640 stack height, correct if I'm wrong, Davidson 44 millimeters 128 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,840 in the. Heel. 129 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:05,280 Did I say that? Is it that high? 130 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,640 It might be, yeah. I think it is, yeah. 131 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,080 Yeah, so 44 millimeters in the heel. 132 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,440 It's just it, it kind of is a weird shoe. 133 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,840 This year. It's 4438. 134 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:18,960 It was 6mm drop. Previous version of this were 135 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,840 really stiff in the forefoot and they were really great for 136 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,640 people that needed a shoe with a really significant forefoot 137 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,320 rocker. And while there's still a lot of 138 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,560 toe spring and there is a plate in this now there's a what's it? 139 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,240 It's an Eva plate. It's a hard. 140 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,400 Pressed Eva, actually. Some like more flexibility than 141 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,560 I expect for a shoe with this much stack and a Eva plate in it 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,240 as well. So I think this kind of it sits 143 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,440 weird, even though it's higher stack, it's a little bit firmer 144 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,800 than the than the Nimbus for me. So it sits weirdly between the 145 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,960 Cumulus and Nimbus. So I think if you're trying to 146 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,880 decide if you're like, hey, I just need a little bit more 147 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,680 room. I just want a teeny bit more 148 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,720 stiffness than the Cumulus has, but not as maybe not as 149 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,200 cushioned as soft as the Nimbus, then maybe this might be an 150 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,720 option. But for those looking for the 151 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,960 hey, I want the really solid rocker. 152 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,040 This is unfortunately not going to provide that anymore, but it 153 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,320 still sits a little close to the Nimbus as being that more 154 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,920 premium, a little more expensive sitting at 16. 155 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,920 So it's actually a little more expensive than the Nimbus, which 156 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,400 you realize once 170, just a little bit more premium, higher 157 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,800 stack shoe for those that want maybe just a little bit more 158 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,960 room because it actually is a little bit more room than some 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,800 of the other models and ASIC sometimes runs a little bit more 160 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,400 narrow. What did you think about this? 161 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Do you think that's an accurate description or am I or you have 162 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,400 a different comparison of the Glide Ride Max in this kind of 163 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,520 traditional category? Yeah. 164 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,240 No, I think that was actually a really good comparison. 165 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,520 I think when the things that I've always associated with the 166 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,240 Glide Ride series is that really stiff, highly rockered forefoot. 167 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,800 And we usually would recommend that for people that had either 168 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Halox rigidous or they had, you know, some Achilles issues, 169 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,120 sometimes that kind of goes away in this that hard pressed Eva, 170 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,920 even though it's plated, it's actually under load. 171 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,440 It's it's decently flexible. You know, dare I say it might 172 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,920 even be more flexible than the Nimbus. 173 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,080 And but it is rockered a little bit more than the Nimbus 174 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,880 upfront. But yeah, it's one of those 175 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,680 things where if you want to kind of have that toe spring, but 176 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,280 then have a little bit of flexibility in that toe spring, 177 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,640 which is a pretty niche crowd, but some people like that. 178 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,200 I actually do like that in designs when I'm running a 179 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,160 little bit easier. So I actually have liked the 180 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Glide Ride Max. It's not going to be a shoe that 181 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,960 agrees with everyone, but it kind of went away from the roots 182 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,039 of the Glide Ride there, you know, where it's like that has 183 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:38,400 always been that real stiff shoe up front. 184 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,640 It's where it's like almost like, is this thing carbon 185 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,159 plated? And it's not, you know, it was 186 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:44,760 always this plastic plate, but it was a really hard plastic 187 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,240 plate. So now it's just kind of more of 188 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,800 like a neutral premium trainer really, but it has a nice upper. 189 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,880 It has a decent amount of volume. 190 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,440 I think the tongue to me felt a little bit more fluid and less 191 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 bitey than the Nimbus Between the two. 192 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,520 I think I actually do lean towards the Glide ride Max, but 193 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,600 not necessarily for the reasons that the Glide ride Max got its 194 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,000 name or you know, for how it established its line or where 195 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,600 it's placed in the lineup, shall I say, You know, with that real 196 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,560 stiff forefoot. I I kind of like that sharper 197 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,360 toe spring with that slight flexibility. 198 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,920 To me that makes it just a nice natural toe off and it feels 199 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,440 really nice to me, but it's not that stiff experience that it 200 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,960 used to be. I think for that reason, if I 201 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,520 was going to put these on like the more like kind of your more 202 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,200 simple to more cushion. I put the cumulus as like a 203 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,080 little bit more of the versatile shoe of this range where it's 204 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,520 definitely lighter rolls a little bit more, a little bit 205 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,160 snappier of the two just because of that lightness as well. 206 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,240 And if you want, it's a good, it's a really good deal at 1:40. 207 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,320 But 140 the Glide ride Mac sits between these but sits closer to 208 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,520 the Nim Nimbus as the more premium of these more foam under 209 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,720 foot, little bit stiffer, but the Nimbus is the one going, 210 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,200 hey, you want the softest ride. You want a shoe that's actually 211 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,320 going to work well for those with toe mobility deficits and 212 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,600 want a decent rocker off the front, Nimbus is going to be 213 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,800 better. But if you want that kind of 214 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,320 smoother riding, you know, just a touch of flexibility with good 215 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,440 amount of stack, maybe the Glide Ride Max is the better option in 216 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,720 this line up of shoes. I'd say a little less structure 217 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,040 too. I think the Nimbus feels a 218 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,400 little bit more structured as well, so a little less going on 219 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,440 from a soul flare and side walls and everything like this is kind 220 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,920 of more a true neutral. I'm glad that you said that 221 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,080 because I always felt like the. Nimbus for the listeners being 222 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,760 the glad red Max. I didn't specify for those for. 223 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,960 I actually had like, not an argument, but disagreement with 224 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,560 Nathan because I found the nimbus to actually be slightly 225 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:37,200 stable, neutral. And he's like, are you like 226 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,000 serious? And just because of the side 227 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,800 walls, this geometry actually, even though it's so soft, it 228 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,520 actually works for someone like me. 229 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Whereas the Glide Red Max, because it doesn't have a lot of 230 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,960 those features, didn't work as well from a guidance standpoint. 231 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,200 So that's very validating. Anyway, let's move on to our 232 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,600 stability category, which I feel like is like the smallest ASICS 233 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,160 has had. Normally ASICS is really known 234 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,520 for their stability stuff and there's stability shoes are the 235 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:07,120 some of the top ones on the market right now. 236 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,680 And I will say that confidently. There's a lot of there's still 237 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:11,880 some good stuff out there, it's just a lot less. 238 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,080 We lost shoes for those that even remember this, like the DS 239 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,680 trainer, the DS Racer, which were there actually DS trainer 240 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:21,640 was here until not too long ago and then it got they got rid of 241 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,320 it as a mild stability, lightweight trainer slash racer. 242 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,560 The the DS racer was a show I used a lot in college. 243 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:32,880 I really missed that shoe. But the GT 2013 and the ASICS 244 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,560 Keanu 31 are now your two stability shoes in the lineup, 245 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:39,840 and they fortunately do cover quite a bit of area. 246 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,320 The GT 2013. I feel like David and I've had 247 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,320 this conversation several times where it's like a like goat 248 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,680 stability shoe at this point. It's such a good shoe in the 249 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:51,400 fact that they redid so much where brought it up to speed. 250 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:54,520 It's it is also one of the lighter stability shoes out 251 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,480 there. It can definitely handle some up 252 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,160 tempo stuff. It's not a racing shoe, but it 253 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,000 could definitely move if you need to, but also just chews up 254 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,440 miles really well great durability. 255 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,720 I almost have 100 miles in my pair, which is and this is my 256 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,400 left shoe by the way. So for those watching on 257 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,760 YouTube, this should blow you away. 258 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,240 The outsole's still intact, little bit more snug, really 259 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,760 great price. What's the price again? 260 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,480 It's still like 1. 40 I think. Yeah, that's a great price for 261 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,240 this shoe that has this durability, this versatility can 262 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,880 handle quite a bit good. I think not as great the Keanu 263 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,720 for walking, but as a good starting stability shoe walking 264 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,240 wise is really good. The interesting thing though, 265 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,840 it's more of a mild to moderate stability shoot not being 266 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,400 moderate in my opinion, but I'm curious to get your thoughts on 267 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,800 that in the GT2000. Yeah. 268 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,880 I think with the GT2000, I agree with the mild to moderate 269 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,320 appraisal there. I think it's mild until it 270 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,640 becomes moderate. And the reason why it becomes 271 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,440 moderate is I think partially the stack height. 272 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,080 You know, it's not quite as high up as a lot of these other 273 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,120 shoes. You have thick rubber coverage, 274 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,240 you get a lot of ground feel, you know, so this shoe doesn't 275 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,040 feel like a lot of these other training shoes on the market 276 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,920 right now. They put the Blast Plus midsole 277 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,320 in there, which is in a lot of the models, but for whatever 278 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,000 reason, this one feels like it just absorbs that load pretty 279 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,400 well. They have some gentle side 280 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,680 walls, you know, they have some gentle soul like soul flaring 281 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:15,720 more than the other models that we just showed you. 282 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,160 And they have that what they call the 3D guidance system. 283 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,160 You know, when you kind of load it, it's meant to just be a 284 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,400 little bit adaptive to how you load the shoe to kind of just 285 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,040 get you forward. But it's all gentle stuff, you 286 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,920 know, and I think for the most part it's mild, but because it's 287 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,520 not quite as high up in that traction so good and the upper 288 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,000 lockdown's good, it comes off quite stable, you know, and I 289 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 think that's what kind of makes it into that moderate category 290 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,200 where it's not that there's so much other things going on. 291 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,240 I think it's just kind of like that last little bit gets it 292 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,360 over the edge. But this has been a very solid 293 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,600 workhorse trainer. I think I have 100 on mine too. 294 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,880 And this thing like has shoot man, like hardly a dent on it. 295 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,240 You know, it's like it's crazy. And I just did 17 this morning 296 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,080 in them. You know, I've had 119 and 117 297 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,560 mile run and then with no issues. 298 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,240 But yeah, and and it's kind of a traditional training shoe feel. 299 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:10,040 You know, it's not really like overly plush in any areas. 300 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,800 You know, it's it's a somewhat simple shoe in a lot of ways. 301 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,440 No plates kind of blast plus now seems to kind of be the standard 302 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,720 for them. I mean, that's like across 303 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,240 almost every model at this point. 304 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,960 So kind of a standard foam there, you know, high abrasion 305 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,480 rubber. They have those flex grooves. 306 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,960 So you have a little bit of flexibility there and a little 307 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,000 bit more flexibility I'd say than some of the other models 308 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,240 because there's just less foam too. 309 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,680 You know, when there's that much foam, those platforms get really 310 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,320 rigid too. So if you kind of want kind of 311 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,120 more of that natural feeling shoe, but you need structure, 312 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,240 like if those lower riding, flexible natural feeling shoes 313 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,160 are a little much for you, but you need a little bit of 314 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,960 structure, this can actually give you that, which kind of 315 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,840 gives it a unique place. I think in the stability 316 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,760 training world, like you said, it's kind of one of the lighter 317 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,680 options. I I agree on two in two fronts. 318 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,640 It's unique in the ASICS lineup because it's very specific, 319 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,080 like, and I will bring up the Keanu 31 in just a second, but 320 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,160 it's very specific. We were talking the neutral 321 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,360 ones. Like there's some overlap here, 322 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,320 like kind of not sure where the the the G 2013 is. 323 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Like this is where I stand. I am the not maximal stack, 324 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,360 although stack, it's certainly harder than it used to be. 325 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,600 I'm not maximal stack. I am the simple stability shoot 326 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,160 like and GTI don't remember what that stands for. 327 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,920 And I want to steal this from Brooks because I know they used 328 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,920 to say the GTS was go to stability GT go to make sense in 329 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,320 this shoe. It's just the thing that I think 330 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,680 David, and I hopefully not speaking for you, but it just 331 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,000 it's a shoe I just grabbed is someone who needs a little bit 332 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,520 stability. If I'm just doing an easy run, I 333 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,680 don't really have anything else to test. 334 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,480 I'm going to grab that because I can rely on it and I know what 335 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,880 I'm going to get. I know it's not going to feel 336 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,680 weird or mushy. If I don't want it to feel too 337 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 high, it's not too low. There's a little bit 338 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,440 flexibility. I can pick up the pace a little 339 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,640 bit. It just it covers a lot of boxes 340 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,560 and doesn't have a lot of overlap with a lot of the other 341 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,400 shoes in both this lineup as well as the rest of the market, 342 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,280 which is kind of nice. Actually, when I heard GT, I 343 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,520 actually think of like Grand Tour, you know, like just kind 344 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,640 of like that smooth experience like you see in cars and things. 345 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,760 Somebody in the comments let us know what GT stands for in this 346 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,200 case. I I feel like we should know 347 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,480 that, but I don't. And I, I don't know either. 348 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,600 Yeah. All right. 349 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Well, that makes me feel better. So going on to the Keanu 31, 350 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,120 which is another staple shoe on the market that's been around 351 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,760 obviously a long time. This is your moderate premium, 352 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,200 moderate stability, premium daily training shoe that has 353 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,960 been redone quite a bit compared to previous versions. 354 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,960 It does have tons of guidance methods now, so very wide sole, 355 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,160 wide midfoot, significant side walls. 356 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,360 They did something different where they had what's called 4D 357 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,920 guidance where you've got the internal geometry, but this 358 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,160 medial piece is actually softer and more bouncy, which is a very 359 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,520 interesting sensation when you actually hit it, where when you 360 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,040 go into this, it actually bounces you back out, which it's 361 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,480 very interesting. It's not the most overt thing. 362 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,480 It takes a while to break in, but this is another shoe that I 363 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,880 really as a go to suggest to people. 364 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,960 If you're working in healthcare, for example, this has been a 365 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,680 great shoe if you have to be on your feet all day, if you need 366 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,880 just a little bit of stability without something that's jamming 367 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,200 into your arch, which is really good. 368 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,839 If you need a shoe that's like you can handle long distances 369 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,680 and just daily training, but you want something softer, more 370 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,760 premium. It's also a little bit wider, 371 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,200 which is very surprising for ASICS. 372 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,680 You need a little more room. This is also really good, which 373 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,560 very much is different from the GT. 374 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,560 So these aren't don't have a lot of overlap. 375 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,920 They do stability differently where the GT really I can feel 376 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,880 that medial pressure, even though it's supposed to be 377 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,960 guided. Keanu, I don't feel that as 378 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,280 much, but my foot feels very centered and stable, which is 379 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,320 nice. The Keanu is much softer. 380 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,040 It's not as versatile and to speed it's it's heavier. 381 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,240 The GT is the faster shoe of these because it's lighter, but 382 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,080 it that's great because these are very different shoes and 383 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,720 they're also pretty different on the market. 384 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,040 So same thing. So stability category as always 385 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,240 ASICS, I mean, not as always. They've they're doing a lot 386 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,800 better now. There's a couple years where I 387 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,040 don't think it was as good, but they're really doing very well 388 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,680 now. I just wish that they had like a 389 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,080 lightweight, like a lightweight stability race or something like 390 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,880 that. I feel like of all of anyone. 391 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Yeah, if they could bring back the DS. 392 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,440 Racer I had. A pair of those. 393 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:10,480 I remember those. Yeah, those. 394 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Were sick. Those were fun. 395 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,760 So yeah, ASICS, if you're listening to this, please bring 396 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,400 back the DS Racer. A lot of people would race 397 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,720 marathons in those too. Oh. 398 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,400 Yeah, it was. That was true for that. 399 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Yeah. Yeah, I think I raced 1/2 400 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,600 marathon and they're great. They're awesome. 401 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,400 So I was like far from marathon racing at that point in my life, 402 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,400 but. ASICS beta speed DS racer would 403 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,000 be sweet. It'd be great. 404 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,560 So yeah, stability lineup, not a lot of overlap with the rest of 405 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,120 the stuff here and very unique in between both models. 406 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,040 Where we start to see a little somewhat overlap is moving into 407 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,120 the performance trainer realm where we have the NUSA Tri, 408 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:50,800 which I feel like is a shoe that people don't talk about as much 409 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,760 because this is actually the cheapest of this line. 410 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,200 It's 135, which is awesome for how durable and how this is 411 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,920 really versatile. It's actually also one of the 412 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,520 lighter options in this lineup. And then you also have the magic 413 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,880 speed or which is the opposite to me. 414 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,160 We're kind of, I'm super confused by this shoe. 415 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,520 And so I definitely want to talk about that. 416 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,880 But which one do you want to go through first? 417 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,280 We're going to be positive or yeah first. 418 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Dang you. Sorry, positive. 419 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,440 Man. I'm gonna throw that down. 420 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,720 Let's let's start off with the Noosa. 421 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,480 I think the Noosa is a pretty simplistic shoe. 422 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,120 That's kind of always what it's been, you know, just that 423 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:28,640 lightweight, neutral, relatively low to the ground. 424 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,680 Now it has more stack. All of them have more stack than 425 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,560 they used to. You know, I feel like that's 426 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,480 almost can go without saying at this point, but it's still a 427 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,800 lower stack than the other shoes. 428 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,320 It's very moderate stack height blast plus midsole, very gentle, 429 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,720 kind of so funny, but again, neutral shoe through and 430 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,000 through. Very breathable air mesh, decent 431 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,400 volume, wide forefoot, little bit flexible upfront, a lot 432 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,360 flexible upfront, but a slightly sharper toe spring up front too. 433 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,040 So hey, actually what I and I love the news and I was telling 434 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,480 you the glide ride Max to kind of gives you a little bit of a 435 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,280 similar ish experience in the forfeit. 436 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,520 Just very different shoes. The news says in that 7 oz 437 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,680 range, very light. There's no plate. 438 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,960 There's really no there's not that much frills on this, you 439 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,760 know, but it does have good traction under foot and it can 440 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,640 do a little bit of everything you need it to do. 441 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,200 I've hit hard track workouts in these just fine. 442 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,440 You know, and also done tempo runs and things like that and 443 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,760 and I've done easy day too. This is meant to be kind of that 444 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,160 lightweight, versatile Swiss army knife kind of shoe. 445 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,120 And it's been a long standing favorite for Doctors of Running 446 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:32,760 and I, I feel like it still continues to be worth talking 447 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,200 about. And yeah, at 1:35 it does make 448 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,000 it very hard to beat. It's awesome. 449 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,240 There's another shoe out there that we haven't reviewed in a 450 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,760 little bit called the ASICS Hyperspeed, which is now on 451 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,160 version four. That's a very different shoe 452 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,000 than the NUSA Tri because that's a teeny bit light, not that much 453 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,640 lighter, but it's also much lower stack and it's really 454 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,080 meant purely as a racing flat, whereas the NUSA Tri just does 455 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,880 such a good job of that simple, lightweight, affordable, 456 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,880 lightweight trainer that you could easily race in. 457 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,360 You could easily used as that many people can use as a trainer 458 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,360 if you just want something lighter and more simple. 459 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,520 It's got just enough room. It's also got an absolutely 460 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,120 awesome upper. It's one of the few shoes that 461 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:12,800 can truly handle sockless running. 462 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,720 But this really of this cat lightweight trainer category 463 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,200 really shines for me personally, just because it's so simple and 464 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,000 just checks off boxes so well in how it does that. 465 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Now not to be a negative Nancy, the Magic Speed 4 is a weirder 466 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,320 shoe for me. So this one is the carbon plated 467 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,800 lightweight trainer of the group. 468 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,000 It's meant to be either a companion shoe or like your 469 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,800 workout shoe or for those that find maybe the meta speed series 470 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,640 too aggressive, something you can lean back on that's not as 471 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,080 aggressive and this shoe has changed so much. 472 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,960 Version 3 was actually awesome. It was a great in my opinion 473 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320 racing flat for a lot of different distances that still 474 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,760 has some bounce to it and was a great really a good alternative 475 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,320 and easily exchangeable I think for a lot of the meta speed 476 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,320 series at the time. This one got super stacked so 477 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,480 it's over 40mm in the in the heel, not so much in the 478 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,840 forefoot. Full length carbon fiber plate. 479 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,440 There is flight foam turbo in the center matched with flight 480 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,240 foam blast plus. Why am I forgetting this? 481 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,640 Yeah, it should be Blast Plus. Yeah, blast Plus. 482 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,360 Which technically is Blast Plus. I was expecting this to be 483 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:23,360 softer. It's very firm and stiff so I 484 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,640 even though this was meant as lightweight training, did not 485 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,280 enjoy it as a training shoe. It does break in after a while, 486 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,480 but it's really stiff, tall, and heavier than I would expect for 487 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,960 a shoe in this category so I'm really confused. 488 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,080 This is my hey you just want a stiff shoe. 489 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,600 It's not that stable too because it's super high and super 490 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,320 narrow. You just want to have that 491 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,120 carbon fiber stiffness. You want a firmer or stiffer 492 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:46,760 shoe and maybe you just like that for training. 493 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,040 Maybe you like this as a racing shoe because the Meta Speed 494 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,280 series is too light or aggressive and maybe the Super 495 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,440 Blast is more money than you want to spend. 496 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,280 This is kind of where it is, but to me, the shoe is weird because 497 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,120 it has a lot of overlap with the Super Blast. 498 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:03,120 So we'll talk about and I personally would choose the 499 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:07,360 noose to try over this because the shoe is so stiff and doesn't 500 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,000 and feels more firm than responsive. 501 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,840 I would choose the noose to try if I was trying to run fast, but 502 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,760 that's me. It does better over longer, 503 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080 longer distances. So that may be because I'm not 504 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,280 looking at marathons. Maybe I'm not paying attention 505 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,840 to this shoe as much as like a long run or workout shoe, but 506 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,840 I'm just kind of confused by it. Still. 507 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,320 This is one where I think there's there's a lot of overlap 508 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,560 and I'm curious to know what you think about it. 509 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Yeah, I, I agree in some areas and I, I, I don't in others. 510 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,760 But I think looking at it from a transition standpoint, I think 511 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,520 it's not really the shoe that's meant for you. 512 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,240 You know, you land pretty hard on the heel and like you said, 513 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,080 it's a very high up, very narrow platform. 514 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320 And that's what's going to give you a lot of problems if you 515 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,440 land that way. And it's a little bit of a 516 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,960 flatter geometry in the heel too. 517 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,240 That's another one of those shoes where it's very 4 foot 518 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,520 forward, where a sharper toe spring, very stiff carbon plate, 519 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,440 little bit of a narrow platform with that deep cut down the 520 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,960 midline. Those who have like really 521 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,640 neutral mechanics and are a little bit more midfoot forward 522 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,280 on their landing, they're they're probably going to do a 523 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,840 little bit better in that shoe. I actually, I enjoyed the shoe. 524 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,760 I didn't dislike it, but I agree, I do feel like that toe 525 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,120 springs a little bit too sharp, especially for faster things. 526 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:21,960 It's almost like I can't, it's like I'm fighting myself almost. 527 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,480 I can't push off the ground because I'm rolling off of it 528 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,520 too quickly. But at like marathon, half 529 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,600 marathon kind of efforts, I feel like the shoe actually responds 530 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,320 pretty well and I think it's a decent training companion. 531 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,720 You know, I, I don't think it, I don't know if it is the best 532 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,760 training companion on the market, but I don't know if it's 533 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,800 necessarily deserving of negative press either. 534 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,520 But I will say it's also it's, it is a lot firmer than I 535 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,920 thought it would be too. You know, when we got it, 536 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,960 ironically, the one that was blast plus, which was the third 537 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,280 version, that one felt softer, like you said, then then this 538 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,560 one, and this one is turbo and blast plus and it's higher up. 539 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,600 And so maybe some of it's just the alignment of where the plate 540 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,920 is, I'm not sure, but it definitely feels firm. 541 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Like that thing feels pretty firm. 542 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,000 But if you load it in the right way and you land in a certain, 543 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,840 you know, with a certain mechanics, I think it would come 544 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,360 off with a decently lively toe off and be a nice training 545 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,240 companion for the half and the full. 546 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,360 Maybe even a racing shoe for those that like that, but don't 547 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,760 necessarily want to either spend the money on a super shoe or 548 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,720 also just like a little bit more of a training shoe feel versus 549 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,200 the Peeba based stuff. But yeah, I, I, I think it's, 550 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,080 it's still a worthy training companion. 551 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320 But I, I agree out of the two, if I'm picking my favorite out 552 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,840 of the two, it's going to be the Noosa. 553 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:47,800 I think the Noosa is again, very versatile, very friendly on 554 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,240 foot. You know, I think it can take a 555 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,360 little bit of everything where the magic speed is a little bit 556 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,240 more of a niche and a specific use. 557 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,240 I would totally agree. Are we good to move on to one of 558 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,840 my favorite categories? Yeah, yeah. 559 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,200 Let's do it. Sweet. 560 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,120 So the Super shoe of a six is going to be the A6 meta speed 561 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:10,080 edge Paris and the A6 meta speed sky Paris. 562 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,920 Did I get that right? Yes I actually did wow. 563 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,960 This is great for those who can't see this. 564 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,080 They look very similar. There are some pretty I mean, if 565 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,000 you if I was looking at the outsole, then that's how I 566 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,680 usually tell without looking too deeply because the current the 567 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,560 the red or orange or whatever color the sky has the similar 568 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800 outsole, whereas the edge has the black outsole. 569 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,920 So both these are night and day better than the last versions. 570 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,680 They are some of the lightest super shoes on the market. 571 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,840 Obviously before things like the Evo Pro or the Pro Evo one and 572 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,280 then the 361 mural that we talked about recently. 573 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,160 These are the lightest kind of real really commercially 574 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 available shoes. I really enjoy the edge. 575 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,840 The Paris has also been a really great option just doesn't match 576 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,280 my mechanics as well. They have full length flight 577 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,680 foam turbo plus they're both 250 bucks. 578 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,760 They have different geometries and that's kind of really the 579 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,120 edge is meant to be that shoe that kind of rolls a little bit. 580 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,760 I, I don't know if I'd say cadence is really the thing, but 581 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,120 just in terms of how you load the shoe is different. 582 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,400 Like I'm more of a heel striker and I kind of roll a little bit 583 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,680 more. So the edge works really, really 584 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,720 well for me. I found that those who can 585 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,040 really smash into the ground load the four foot really well. 586 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,880 I tend to like the sky a little bit. 587 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,640 And David, I'm curious to get your thoughts on that. 588 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,640 But the edge has been, I think it's, well, we'll have to see 589 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,400 because some shoes got in the way of this. 590 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,320 But it's been my shoe of the year. 591 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,240 I've raced the most. I've raced the fastest in this 592 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,760 year. I really liked it, but I like 593 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,920 these. They are not stable, 594 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,760 unfortunately, but they are definitely worth that 250 595 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,280 because they have some of the best foams. 596 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,120 They have some of the best rides and they can, there's a lot of 597 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,960 versatility in both of them. But yeah, curious to get your 598 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,960 thoughts of like, if you want to race fast, these are really, 599 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,880 really great options. Yeah, and that's the whole idea, 600 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,760 right? Make it as light as possible, 601 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,080 put the most responsive foam in there. 602 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,240 The stiffening agents get get you an experience that you can 603 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,520 run really fast in. It's not a marketing plug. 604 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520 That's every single racing shoe on the market for every company. 605 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,640 I agree. The Edge Paris has kind of been 606 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,760 my racing shoe of the year up to this point. 607 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,240 That might change very shortly. There's another shoe that I'm 608 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,320 liking a lot right now, but that is not a discussion for right 609 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,640 now. I agree. 610 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240 I feel like the sky is very 4 foot forward. 611 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280 It's a sharper little toast. Me at the very end, a little bit 612 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,400 of a flatter plate, right? Not quite a spooned out. 613 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,800 And I feel like you really got to smash that thing to to get 614 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,360 the best experience out of it. And ironically, you know, I feel 615 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,840 like when I'm running quicker, I actually run a little bit more 616 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,080 similar to you. I do heel strike a decent 617 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,560 amount. I don't. 618 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,720 Maybe not quite as hard, you know, but I. 619 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,320 Based on our outsole way. But but I do and I, I do feel 620 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,040 like I like that little bit drop in the plate on the edge. 621 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,200 I like that it's a little bit more gradual there and I think I 622 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,760 respond really well to it. It's again, not the most stable, 623 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,320 very neutral. You know, I, I mean, this is 624 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,160 probably the closest comparison to the vapor fly at the moment 625 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,880 where you kind of have that thin last through the midfoot, a 626 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440 little bit of a wider forfeit with good traction and then just 627 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,480 kind of a heel that's there. But yeah, I think for 2:50, I 628 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,760 feel like, I think I have 70 ish miles on these and it again, 629 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,720 doesn't look like I made much of A dent at all. 630 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,240 And I've been trying to be sparing on these that that could 631 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,840 that number could be way, way higher because I do really like 632 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,560 the issues. I've just been saving them for 633 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,840 special efforts. So also fun fact, this is a 634 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,320 little tape right here on the, on the medial part where the the 635 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,200 yellow part is. That's not I started ripping it 636 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240 off the other day on accident. Oh yeah, and mine has been 637 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,440 coming off too. I think it's just like getting 638 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,640 delaminated a little bit, but I I think this these are really 639 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,360 worth the money. Obviously all super shoes are 640 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,240 very expensive, but these have a very set place in the line. 641 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,000 They are completely different. The magic speed four and it's 642 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,640 not similar to these at all. The try Noosa is not similar to 643 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,640 this at all. Everything is these are going to 644 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,880 be have a very unique place you want to run fast. 645 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,640 This is where these two shoes are going to go. 646 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,920 They're also very unique on the market because it's very hard to 647 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,080 find shoes that are similar to them. 648 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,720 I think the vapor fly is actually so different. 649 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,480 Yes, it is comparable, but the vapor fly in my opinion is much 650 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,720 softer and it's much less. The platform is much more more 651 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,920 narrow. I like the edge a lot more than 652 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,080 the vapor fly, but I'm also someone who doesn't typically 653 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,320 get along with vapor flies right now. 654 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,520 So, but I would market those are probably too narrow ones of the 655 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,680 bunch. I would definitely agree with 656 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,840 that. But again, being this light as 657 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,200 the commercially like probably one of the widest available 658 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,040 commercial light shoes, commercially available super 659 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,840 shoes, they're two of the best on the market. 660 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,720 It really comes down to your mechanics. 661 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,120 I'm very curious to hear the comments, by the way, about 662 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440 people having tried both to figure out which one works 663 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,800 better for them. I've seen a variety on elite 664 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,680 athletes and a variety from people running at races about 665 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,120 both the Edge and the Sky. So I think they're they have 666 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,360 worthy places here as clear racing flats. 667 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,960 It doesn't have a lot of overlap in not only the rest of the 668 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,800 line, but again, I'll say this, not all overlap in the rest of 669 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,960 the industry because they're quite unique in their design and 670 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,600 differentiation. Yeah, and the Turbo plus midsole 671 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,800 is interesting. We're a very bouncy, but much 672 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,840 firmer than a lot of the other people Mitzels. 673 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,520 So if you need a little, if you like that kind of firmer feel to 674 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,240 it, like you're going to get that in these. 675 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,760 So when I said the Vaporfly comment, I meant more so in like 676 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,880 shoe shaping. I, I do agree with you that they 677 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,240 are different, but they're both very, very neutral. 678 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,600 You know, where like some of the other super shoes are starting 679 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,680 to get more and more built up to kind of help with some of the 680 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,280 stability and, and really focus at the marathon. 681 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,000 Where like the edge Paris might not be the marathon shoe for 682 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,160 everyone. You know, it's just not the most 683 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,600 structured, you know, but as a 5K10K shoe, I think a lot of 684 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,320 people will really like whichever one works better for 685 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,880 them. They're both up really good for 686 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,760 me. I think half marathon for sure. 687 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,680 Edge Paris could do it. Marathon. 688 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,720 I'm still thinking myself too. I'm like if I, if I run a 689 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,120 conservative, well controlled, well executed marathon, I think 690 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,400 I'd be all right. But if I go out a little too hot 691 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440 and I start breaking my mechanics and I start getting 692 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,080 tired, like I might start fighting that shoe, you know. 693 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,200 So I don't know if it's really the right marathon shoe for me 694 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,280 either. Yeah, I would definitely agree 695 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,520 with you where I they're very light and because they're so 696 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,960 light, I find that these have worked better for me for like 697 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,240 5K10 Ki have not tried 1/2. I think that I might be able to 698 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,080 get the the sky. No, I found the sky less stable 699 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,040 to me, like the four foot's really good, but because I load 700 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,800 the heels so much, the heels and mid foot's a little bit narrower 701 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,920 in the sky. At least it feels like it the 702 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,680 edge though I might be able to get to 1/2. 703 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,400 But to me marathon, I'm going to need something a little bit more 704 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,040 structured on. It's a little bit more or like 705 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,520 kind of overtly stable, like some side walls or things like 706 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,440 or like wider midfoot. But for those who do mechanics 707 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,560 and you want the lightest thing, there's there's no reason why 708 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,560 you can't use this for a marathon distance because it's 709 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,640 actually obviously a Max stack height shoe. 710 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920 You just got to find out do you need do you need a little bit 711 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,760 more structure? Now there's a good alternative 712 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,200 to those. So if those people are really 713 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,640 sticking to ASICS and maybe you're going, hey, what kind of 714 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,880 marathon shoe might work for me? I'm going to bring up the last 715 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280 two options as the ones we were kind of having a hard time 716 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,120 categorizing. Yes, they are very much 717 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,760 performance shoes. They're also extremely high 718 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,480 stack. So we're talking about the Super 719 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,640 Blast 2 and the Nova Blast 4, which have been incredibly 720 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,280 popular model. So it's interesting that like 721 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,720 David and I are going where do we put these? 722 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,720 Like I think they're performance trainers, but both them are 723 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,360 really like especially the Super blast is technically a super 724 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,760 trainer given it's got fight foam turbo plus in the midsole. 725 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,800 There's actually a bottom. Correct me if I'm wrong. 726 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,120 Is there a small bottom layer of fight foam blast plus? 727 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,920 Because it's it's it's turbo plus on the most of the top and 728 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,040 there's a small layer at the very bottom. 729 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,000 Am I wrong? There there might be I I 730 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,120 honestly don't remember the first version did right. 731 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,560 That one did have the turbo and then the the blast underneath 732 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,280 it. This one I'm not 100% sure to be 733 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,960 honest. Someone's going to have to put 734 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,320 that in the comments there. So the reason I bring this up 735 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,639 because a lot of people that have been asked me about the 736 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,239 meta speed series for the the marathon and I'm like, 737 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,560 especially if you're a recreational runner, I'm like, I 738 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,159 don't know if that might be the best option as a recreational 739 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,840 runner for the marathon. Super Blast is a great option. 740 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,040 It's still the lightest super trainer out there. 741 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,600 I think it's coming in like the low 8 out like 8 1/2. 742 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Yeah, because it was like it went up a little bit. 743 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,639 It's like 8.58.7 oz. So still very good weight, still 744 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,280 bouncy midsole, very stable. This is probably one of the best 745 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,239 super stable neutral shoes out out there. 746 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,120 So as we've lost lighter weight stability shoes, this has been a 747 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,320 really good option because I can do. 748 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,400 I would easily take this for a marathon, not even hesitate if I 749 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,679 had to go run a marathon tomorrow just because Really 750 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,000 good side walls, wider midfoot, really stiff. 751 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,800 Even though there's no plate, it's very stiff. 752 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,960 And this is a great shoe because it really stands out from others 753 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,280 as the lightest and kind of snappiest. 754 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,200 Although the Mizuno recent shoe might be on kind of par with 755 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,800 being a softer version. Why am I forgetting the name of 756 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,040 that? Neo Vista. 757 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,200 The Neo Vista is bouncy, not quite as light, but definitely 758 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,400 super bouncy and kind of in similar vein, but not as stable, 759 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,440 and that's where this shoe really sticks out. 760 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,160 So as a solid place line, it does in theory have some overlap 761 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,480 with things like the Glide red Max or the magic speed 4, but in 762 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,880 when you try them on it really doesn't. 763 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,920 I think it's the best of all these which it better be the 764 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,360 best because it's $200.00. So if you got some money to 765 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,000 spend it is worth it in my opinion because the durability 766 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,240 is like phenomenal. I have 150 miles on my pair. 767 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,800 There's nowhere and I guarantee I'm going to get hundreds more 768 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,920 and not wear through the outsole. 769 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:55,360 So it really stands out to me as the true super trainer, 770 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,080 performance trainer of the entire ASICS lineup. 771 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,560 For those people have a little bit more want the Super feel or 772 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,360 like this is a great option for those who run on the Keanu or 773 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,160 the GT2 thousand 2001. I want a super marathon shoe, 774 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,400 but the meta speed is series is not enough. 775 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,320 This is a really good option. So I think it's worth the money 776 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,280 and has a really set place in my opinion. 777 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,400 Now before we go any farther, we also need to talk about the Nova 778 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,040 Blast. Which would you categorize this 779 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480 as kind of like the more? I mean, it's not cheap. 780 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600 No, it's like 140. Yeah, you're. 781 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,320 Very, very comparable with a lot of the other trainers, yeah. 782 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,560 Yeah, let me, let me have you kind of talk about this one 783 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,800 because I think you did better with your shoe than me. 784 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,200 But yeah, it's a, it's a, there's some overlap with a lot 785 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,720 of other shoes and we'll get into that. 786 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,040 But it's also affordable and has a lot of geometrical things that 787 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,000 make it a decent performance shoe. 788 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,400 Yeah, I mean the Nova blast four and like again, we were kind of 789 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,880 having a hard time categorizing these, you know, it's like we 790 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,640 see so many shoes and we're just like where where does this fall? 791 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,000 You know, cuz I, I kind of see it Yeah, it's. 792 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,520 Yeah, it's like, no, go for it, Sorry. 793 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,680 I'm gonna. Not interrupt you, but looking 794 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,800 at it, it's like I kind of think it falls in between where it's 795 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,120 not really a true training companion performance shoe, but 796 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,040 it's not really a true daily trainer either. 797 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,680 And I think that's kind of what they wanted. 798 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,240 They wanted kind of this structured, versatile shoe that 799 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:19,920 could kind of do a little bit of everything. 800 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,560 I mean, you look at the foam, it's Blast plus Eco, you know, 801 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,520 it's 41 1/2 stack in the heel, like it's pretty high up, right? 802 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,840 Like that's higher than the cumulus, you know, but it's 9.1 803 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,840 oz. It's a it's a competitive 804 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,800 weight. It has pretty good traction. 805 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,680 It's built up around the heel and four foot. 806 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,960 It's got side walls and soul flare and all that stuff. 807 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,280 So it's like it's got kind of just a little bit of everything 808 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,760 kind of Frankenstein into it, you know, and I think for a lot 809 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,520 of people, they've actually really responded well to it. 810 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,040 I know you have had a little bit of a not quite as good sometimes 811 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,080 if things get built up too much in those regions, sometimes it 812 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,480 can almost be like a little wedge for some people depending 813 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,800 on how they land, especially in the heel. 814 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,520 I'm guessing that was your experience. 815 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,000 But yeah, it's kind of like the gradual rocker experience with 816 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,400 things built up. The Nova Blast and the Super 817 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,520 Blast have decently similar platforms. 818 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,520 I will say the Super Blast has a little bit more side walls and a 819 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,200 little bit more soul Flare, but for the most part those 820 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,800 platforms are decently similar outside of the foam and some 821 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,040 small changes. But yeah, and maybe the 822 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,640 difference in the foam too, where the Turbo Plus might have 823 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,400 a little bit more deformation in the heel and smoothens that out, 824 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,480 where like that one might be a little bit more rigid and you 825 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,480 get that wedge feeling. I'm not sure as far as your 826 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040 personal experience, but I would say it kind of falls in between. 827 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000 It's a shoe that a lot of people are doing workouts in. 828 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,080 A lot of people are running marathons in them too. 829 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,560 I mean, you see them like the Nova Blast 4 has been a hit and 830 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,680 the Super Blast 2 has been a hit. 831 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,440 They both have been a hit for a lot of people. 832 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,440 So yeah, I'm just like, it's not really like what I would choose 833 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,880 for a daily trainer. It's not really what I would 834 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,040 choose on workout day either compared to a lot of other 835 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,280 shoes, but it's kind of a Jack of all trades kind of shoe. 836 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,080 I feel like it did kind of a better job of what I was hoping 837 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,520 out of the the cumulus at least is good in terms of it's, it's a 838 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,960 smooth ride. I think you're alluding this, my 839 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,240 challenge with no blasts. It feels, and they were trying 840 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,960 to do this where it literally slaps me forward like they were 841 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,200 looking for this trampoline effect to kind of propel you 842 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,280 forwards. And it does that. 843 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,880 But the way I hit it is it feels like I'm really getting slappy 844 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,200 and it puts a lot of pressure on my anterior tib to control the 845 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,640 front of that shoe forward. But you're totally right, it is 846 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,560 incredibly popular. People love this. 847 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,640 You either love it or hate it, as I've, I've found. 848 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,240 So I'm kind of like, yeah, it's something I don't like it. 849 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,760 I can appreciate it, but and it's more stable than it has 850 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,720 ever been for me. It's just a little bit slappy 851 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,200 but it has that versatility of being and plenty of cushioning 852 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,240 for being a trainer and also being a lightweight trainer and 853 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,200 a lot of people racing in it so. And at the price point? 854 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,160 And at a great price point. So I I almost feel like it does 855 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,240 a little bit better job than the cumulus if you want that faster 856 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:02,520 option. Whereas if you want the just 857 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,640 like I just need that classic trainer, the cumulus. 858 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,200 Not to say boring isn't the right term, but just you're 859 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,960 reliable. You know what you're going to 860 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,000 get and now really rockers you Cumulus is. 861 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,080 But if you want something a little more. 862 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,440 Exciting little more snappy at that same price point. 863 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,400 I think the Nova Blast is going to compete very well and we've 864 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,960 seen that on the market. But the Super that that overlap 865 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,320 doesn't exist with the Super blast. 866 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,520 Super Blast is like its own category. 867 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,200 It's like it's been a hit. It's really significant. 868 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,440 It's super hard to come by because it got flies off the 869 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,600 shelf so much, but it's just got such a solid place because it's 870 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,600 so unique both in this line and throughout the running industry 871 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,440 because we've got oh, what's the shoe similar to the Super Blast 872 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,840 like? Well, kind of the NIA Vista, but 873 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,000 not really. And nothing else is that light 874 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,560 and nothing has the stable neutral features that would like 875 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,040 and. We don't have the specs on that 876 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:59,280 new Addie 0SL Super EBO. The Evo Evo SL is that. 877 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,240 Well, we don't, we haven't as we've been had several people. 878 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,720 I my comment of the day today was somebody was like, hey, why 879 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,120 haven't you guys reviewed it? Has Matt finally found it on 880 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,360 eBay yet? I'm like, oh, I saw that. 881 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,480 I looked, I haven't found it. Adidas said that they would get 882 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,120 it to us, but not right now. And I was like, I, I have 883 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,800 looked. So whoever wrote that, I'm 884 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,360 sorry, I forgot your name. You're totally right. 885 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,680 I don't think so. I think it's close but it's not 886 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,800 going to have the sidewall and maybe I'm wrong. 887 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,320 I'll I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but it didn't look like 888 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,640 it had the sidewall action, although it's definitely got the 889 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,640 lighter weights. I don't know if it's as stiff 890 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,800 because it's not played at all. The superblast isn't played it 891 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,760 either but it's so tall and so stiff you would expect it to be. 892 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,920 So I don't know the maybe the the evil SL will, but I will 893 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,520 have to see how that goes. But yeah, did we manage to 894 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,600 summarize this whole thing in 40 minutes? 895 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,960 That's awesome. Yeah. 896 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,920 Is there anything else you want to throw in there? 897 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,160 Anything for the fans? Any bring the DS Racer bag. 898 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,840 Oh, do we want to do? What shoes would you like to see 899 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,120 in the lineup? Or what do you think is 900 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,720 redundant? Yeah. 901 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,120 I mean we, no, no, I mean, I think it's, I think it's a fair 902 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,360 topic to be like, is there a little too much crossover on 903 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,640 some of these shoes and maybe what we'd like to see from the 904 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,000 company going forward, Do you? Want to start? 905 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,720 Sure. I I think I'll start off with 906 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,680 what I'd like to see going forward. 907 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,320 I think I think they have a goldmine with turbo plus as a 908 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,840 midsole. You know, I think it is a 909 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,000 really, really good foam and it's a durable feeling foam too. 910 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,960 I feel like you can beat the crap out of it and it just keeps 911 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,160 responding, which I can't say the same for a lot of the other 912 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,880 super foams out there. What I would like to see is 913 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,320 actually what we were kind of talking about, kind of like a 914 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,720 meta speed DS, you know, meta speed DS. 915 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,680 Racer, basically. Yeah, like I think they nailed 916 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,840 it on the GT2000. I mean, the Keanu was a little 917 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,800 much for me, but again, like their stability line has been 918 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,000 doing good. And I think if they could make a 919 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,600 super shoe that had just a little bit more structure on it 920 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,760 and I'm just a little bit more forgiving, like that could 921 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,160 actually be a really, really good shoe. 922 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,680 If nothing else, training companion that is adequate to 923 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,160 that. I mean, the news says is 924 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,320 decently stable neutral, but something that has just a little 925 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,200 bit more on it to to accommodate that stability category. 926 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,840 And some might say it's a needless shoe. 927 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,120 You know, I mean, it it doesn't really, it's a very niche shoe 928 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,040 and it's probably one of the reasons why the DS is no longer 929 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,440 around. I don't have confirmation on 930 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,760 that, but I think for those that would like that and need that, I 931 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,480 think they could do a really good job with the materials they 932 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,840 currently have and what they're currently playing around with as 933 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,680 far as redundancy. I feel like they almost got to 934 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,160 choose a little bit with the kind of like the Cumulus and the 935 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,840 Glide ride Max and the Nova Blast and these sharp 4 foot 936 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,080 rockers. It the chemolis was never like 937 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,400 this. You know, it was always kind of 938 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,680 like your Mizuno rider, your brooks ghosts, your Nike peg 939 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,760 like these kind of just like neutral high drop trainers, 940 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,560 somewhat flexible forefoots, a little bit of reinforcement on 941 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,960 the inside, like it was a pretty quote, UN quote traditional 942 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,840 build and they overhauled it. You know, and it's not bad. 943 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,240 It's a nice shoe. It's just it feels like it's 944 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,960 starting to fall in line with those other models a little bit 945 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,040 and I almost wish they just kind of kept the cumulus, the cumulus 946 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,320 of the past in some ways. And then then you have the glide 947 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,520 ride Max and that's for those who want that, you know, or some 948 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,200 of the other things. So I think just playing around 949 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,840 and really looking at the models and being like, what is the goal 950 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,600 of this shoe, you know, and making sure that if that it's a 951 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,320 very clear answer. I'm just looking over things 952 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,560 real quick over the shoes we did cover. 953 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,960 And like, that's probably the biggest one because they changed 954 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,880 the Nimbus over the years, but like not in the same way, you 955 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,160 know, like it's always been a little bit higher up. 956 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,040 It's always kind of had a little bit more of a rocker to it. 957 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,760 And like they they of course they change like the outsole and 958 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,840 the flaring. It's a little bit more 959 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,440 structured than it used to be. But I think the Nimbus is still 960 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,000 a Nimbus, but the Cumulus isn't really still a Cumulus, you 961 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,000 know, So I think just looking at the lines and just making sure 962 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,280 to really, you know, make sure the given shoe has a specific 963 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,440 goal and experience that the runner wants. 964 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,840 And I'm sure they do, but I feel like the water starting to get 965 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,880 muddy. I would totally agree with you 966 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,800 that I'm going to take my like, I don't like the magics before 967 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,480 and hold off on that for a second to I think this is really 968 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,520 good to address that. The Cumulus I feel like kind of 969 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,720 lost this identity where it's this kind of weird rockard shoe 970 00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:54,200 that in the past had a really specific place that really made 971 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120 sense as that like slightly higher drop neutral trainer that 972 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,000 it was really good. It was a little bit lighter. 973 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,560 So this is more snappier than some of the other models, unlike 974 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000 like, well, kind of similar to the the Wave rider that has 975 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,880 always been a little bit firmer could pick up the pace. 976 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,680 So the Wave Rider has gotten a little bit heavier in recent 977 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,440 years, but that's a that's a different story. 978 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,040 I would say especially with the addition of the Glide Ride Max, 979 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,240 which is also more flexible. It leads to the Cumulus is 980 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,440 sitting in a weird spot where I think a lot of people are going 981 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,400 to choose the Nova Blast because a little more bouncy, a little 982 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,680 more snappy, same weight, same price. 983 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,440 So I would really figure out what you want to do with the 984 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,960 Cumulus. I'd also really figure out what 985 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,560 you want to do with the Glide Ride Max because there's a lot 986 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,000 of overlap with the Nimbus and I think the Nimbus has just done 987 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,160 better, even though it's a little bit cheaper. 988 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,480 So I think the glide Red Max, if it's going to stay around, they 989 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,320 got to go back to to what the glide red was May and I maybe 990 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,840 maybe yeah, this is my bias as a clinician going. 991 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,160 I want to make sure we have a really good option for those 992 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,680 with toe mobility issues and actually use that rocker. 993 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,760 So yeah, you're right. Use this different plate, like 994 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,720 stiffen that up so that 4 foot truly has that rocker that 995 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,520 people came to do and love, which is why people were so 996 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,320 excited for that shoot to come back. 997 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,520 So I think that needs to clean up. 998 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,280 The Nova blast I think has a great place. 999 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,840 I think it's that unique lightweight trainer that's 1000 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,520 versatile. It could handle all different 1001 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,360 things and people are handling it well. 1002 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,720 The magic speed for that. They got to figure out the 1003 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:15,360 identity. It kind of would like went the 1004 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,800 Super blast, but the Super blast is still much better than it is 1005 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,200 without being too much more expensive. 1006 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,880 And the carbon fiber plate, it just it's too firm, too tall. 1007 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,400 It's just a weird shoe. I think it was a much better 1008 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,600 option when it was the version 3 and it was like, oh like this is 1009 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,440 a really good almost $100 cheaper OP comparison to the 1010 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,680 meta speed series. People that want that snap issue 1011 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,200 that could totally use it for 5K10K, you know, half marathon. 1012 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,400 It really had a place. This one is another thing, kind 1013 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,120 of like the Cumulus. It lost its identity. 1014 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,360 So I think it's a little weird. So I think a 60's the other 1015 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,600 models are really good like I don't want to poo poo this like 1016 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,640 the nimbus really saw a place always has, probably always 1017 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,240 will. The Keanu and GT has a really 1018 00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:01,040 solid place, always has, probably always will. the Super 1019 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,640 blast has this very unique place in the market that nobody's been 1020 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,360 able to touch. And I would say if we don't see 1021 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,040 a DS racer from them again, I think this is one of the best 1022 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,120 and lightest stable neutral options for people that want to 1023 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,320 run a marathon. I, you know, really had a great 1024 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,960 love for The Tempest, but I the Super blast to me is better for 1025 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,280 those that have stability needs that want a super marathon shoe. 1026 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,600 I think this is a better option. So it's awesome. 1027 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,920 The news to try is super unique because it's snappy, light, 1028 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,760 fast, it's really affordable and can check a lot of boxes. 1029 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,600 And obviously the meta speed series is phenomenal, but magic 1030 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,320 speed for Cumulus Glide ride Max really kind of needs to get 1031 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,240 their identity back or maybe they need to go personally. 1032 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:46,000 So I think there's some really great options. 1033 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,680 There's some weird overlaps, but we really hope this is helpful 1034 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,800 for us or for you for us to talk to. 1035 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,360 If it's helpful for us. The reason we're going to start 1036 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,160 doing this with different companies is again, there's so 1037 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,760 many different things we're trying to process this. 1038 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,040 And along the way, we also want to provide you with information 1039 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,280 to go, Oh my gosh, like which way should I go? 1040 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,960 How much? You know, it's the curse of 1041 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,480 options. When you have too many options, 1042 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,560 you get, you know, what's the decision paralysis? 1043 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,160 So we really hope this is a helpful episode. 1044 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,480 We're going to do a couple more of these. 1045 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,240 You can always find us on the many different platforms and 1046 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:16,280 find all these we've we've reviewed. 1047 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,040 We have reviews of each one of these up on the website. 1048 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,040 We've got decent amount of video reviews as well. 1049 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,320 And you can find us anywhere, almost anywhere you can think 1050 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,840 of. Obviously Spotify, YouTube was 1051 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,680 where we put these up and any of your other podcast type 1052 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,520 websites. But we also have some really 1053 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,480 great stuff that comes up obviously on the website, which 1054 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,560 is the OG. We got some good comparison 1055 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,040 stuff coming up. That's where I'm really excited 1056 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,640 that we're heading on YouTube, but but then we also have the 1057 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,960 other social platforms. We're on X, we're on Instagram, 1058 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,280 we're on LinkedIn, all these places you can find us and 1059 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,560 putting a good content and great credit to Bach for always 1060 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,240 managing all this stuff and does a great job. 1061 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,160 But as always, we really hope this is helpful in the comments 1062 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,840 below. Let us know what you think about 1063 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,720 this episode. Our goal is to do more of these, 1064 00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,600 start really summarizing and helping people figure out where 1065 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,120 in the line they might be interested. 1066 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,720 But let us know if you have any feedback, any criticism, any 1067 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:04,760 positives. Let us know. 1068 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,600 I didn't drop any significant jokes this episode, which I got 1069 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,640 a lot of great feedback from last time, so we'll try to bring 1070 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,640 those back next time. Don't worry, there was some 1071 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,200 inappropriate jokes that were made right before the. 1072 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,960 No, those don't make it on, but as. 1073 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,920 I don't make it on that would make this show rated R real 1074 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,360 quick. We. 1075 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,760 Try to keep this clean, but we really hope this helps you and 1076 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,280 we really appreciate like it listening. 1077 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,960 Thanks for running along with us and hope this all helps.