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Hello everybody and welcome to 
the Doctors of Running podcast 

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where we, a group of doctors of 
physical therapy, discuss the 

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art and science of running and 
the stuff that we put on our 

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feet. 
It is that time of year where we

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are going to start talking about
some of our favorite shoes from 

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2024. 
We like to use the word favorite

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and not best because if you've 
listened to us for any amount of

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time, you know that we don't 
think that there is a best shoe 

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because what best is going to 
depend on the person. 

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But what's even more exciting 
about today is that we were able

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to work our schedules together 
where everybody is here. 

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So we have Dr. Andrea Myers, 
Doctor Matthew Klein, Doctor 

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David Sauce and myself, Nathan 
Brown. 

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I'll try to be steering the ship
today, but it's so fun to have 

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everybody on the podcast at the 
same time and get everyone's 

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opinion in one place. 
It's been a long time since 

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we've made this happen, so thank
you to you all for doing this 

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and I'm excited to hear your 
picks for the year. 

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What we are going to do actually
for our picks of the year this 

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year is have two different 
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So this first episode we are 
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categories. 
We're going to be talking 

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through our favorite daily 
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We're going to talk through our 
favorite stability trainer, our 

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favorite shoe for long runs and 
our top trail shoe for the year.

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Then in our second episode, 
which is going to come out 

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later, is going to be about our 
favorite workout shoe, our 

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favorite racing shoe, our 
favorite plated but non racing 

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shoe. 
And then we're going to talk 

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about what we think our company 
of the year is, who really 

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showed out and gave a nice line 
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So before we go into the pics of
our shoes, what I want to open 

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up to all of you here is what's 
kind of your favorite running 

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memory from 2024? 
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shoes. 
This is the time to talk non 

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shoes. 
What's your favorite memory 

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about running this year for you?
Any of you can start us off? 

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Think about that, yeah. 
I'll go. 

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Yeah, I think this year has 
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where there's just so much that 
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I'm really proud, especially my 
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postpartum has been through 
quite a bit and as of this 

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morning just ran 1754, which is 
phenomenal and won her race, 

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which is great. 
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memories has really been running
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I think that's really changed 
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my running and it's nice to be 
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So I think all the times I've 
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varieties, right? 
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like, oh, when I ran such and 
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culmination of getting to spend 
time with this little human 

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being at the helm and share 
something that's really 

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important to me has been my 
favorite memory or memories. 

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Andrew, do you have anything? 
I do, yeah. 

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And actually, mine is like a 
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So there's this big race in 
Davenport, IA, which is near 

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where I'm from, called the Bix, 
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And I actually got to go back 
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qualified for the elite field. 
It was a really fun race, but 

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the best part was like my whole 
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My sisters, their husbands, I 
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ready for the race and it was 
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where I'm from doing a race with
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You know, that's a lot of like, 
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was running with family and it 
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things come full circle. 
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What about you, David? 
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recent actually. 
I haven't done a lot of racing 

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this year. 
I've kind of been up and down 

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with like the foot injuries, but
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Thanksgiving with the Turkey 
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I, I don't go back to Redlands 
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only there for a couple days and
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really see anyone. 
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regret it, but I was driving in 
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up early for the race Thursday 
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was going to be exhausted going 
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to see some people I haven't 
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And so got to see a lot of 
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going to be there, you know, and
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So it's always fun to just 
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people again. 
And then obviously seeing family

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again as well, coming back for 
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And then the other one would be 
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I've been here just long enough 
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Now I feel like I'm starting to 
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It's kind of sad. 
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And like I know a lot of people 
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big community event and it's 
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people out there. 
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bigger by the year. 
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were on it this year, but I mean
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thousands now at this point in 
that race and just a huge 

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community turn out. 
They're doing a great job with 

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it and it's just a fun time. 
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day goes on a race, like you're 
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know, everyone's hanging out. 
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so everyone's hanging out in the
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just a good time. 
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Mine for this year actually has 
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I had a friend who I've been 
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year or so. 
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We both work at the university 
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going to run a marathon this 
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I'm like, oh, tell me more about
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He's like, well, I've never ran 
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My friend asked me if I would. 
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And then my follow up question 
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far is that again? 
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attachment to running. 
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to every single like group run 
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Thursday. 
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friends. 
And then just seeing him run the

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marathon in November this year 
and he got through it all with 

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like no injuries and just did a 
great job, got to have fun with 

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his friends. 
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somebody kind of pick up 
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he's he's still going. 
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And that was my favorite memory.
So we are going to now 

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transition to talking about our 
favorite shoes for 2024. 

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Before we do, I want to remind 
you all that we just dropped our

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first set of apparel for Doctors
of Running. 

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So if you're interested in any 
of that apparel, yes, Matt and 

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Andrew are actually wearing some
of it right now. 

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You can go in your search 
engine, type in Doctors of 

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Running Merch or Doctors of 
Running Apparel, and you'll find

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a link. 
We'll probably put a link in the

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description as well. 
We also always want to thank 

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Scratch in their partnership 
with this podcast for this year 

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and helping fuel what we're 
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with the podcast. 
So let's go into our first 

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category for 2024. 
This is after we've all tested 

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as a team over 100 shoes this 
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on those shoes and making sure 
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protocols. 
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trainers we're going to start 
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And Matt, I'm going to push it 
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How would you first define 
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means to you and what's your top
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That's a great question. 
So I would define your daily 

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trainer as kind of your standard
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This is not a racing flat. 
This is not always something, 

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although we're seeing this 
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usually plated or super foamed 
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kind of bleed into that area. 
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You're going out for an easy 
effort or if you're a newer 

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runner, this is a perfect shoe 
to go and go, hey, I just need 

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to get used to the act of 
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They are typically not the 
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Sometimes they average, they go 
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weight to a little bit heavier. 
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plotting long, getting miles and
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forgot what it was. 
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define it, and then what's your 
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So I think you're good to go. 
Good to go. 

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OK, so this year was really 
interesting and I was sitting 

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here going wait, which is my 
favorite 1 And I I'm what I'm 

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about to say is not speed 
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It is just that there's been a 
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really hard for me to pick 
because there has been something

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that's been really awesome about
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that's prevented me from going, 
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favorite. 
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is progressing really, really 
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The things ironically, I've had 
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issues, which might also be me 
is just like something with the 

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upper in every single one of 
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But I'm I'm going to commit to 
this because as usual, I'm going

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toward the last second and try 
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So my top daily trainer, 
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little controversial because you
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trainer or not is actually the 
glycerin Max Nice. 

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Believe it or not, I was 
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cloud Monster 2. 
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cloud Monster 2, which I do have
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And the thing I did have some 
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each one. 
The cloud monsters who just gave

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me a little bit of lace bite 
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I could pick up things. 
I think I ran like a 530 mile 

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with Isabella and the stroller 
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shoe and I was like, I didn't 
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So just nice snappy like really 
what I would like from a daily 

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trainer, but just the top kind 
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and there was just a little bit 
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glycerin Max this thing is a 
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It's lasted I I have well over 
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There's this is my left shoe. 
There's no wear on the outsole. 

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It feels awesome. 
It does. 

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I know when it's when you're 
walking it feels mushy, but when

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you're running it just is just 
right rolls really nicely. 

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I've done tons of miles in the 
shoe Wish it just that the front

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is where it feels just a tiny 
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do a little bit better in a size
10 1/2 which I might actually 

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have to move to here fairly 
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seem to be doing. 
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You can log tons of miles in it.
Yes, it's now in that super 

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stack, but it didn't feel that 
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That 4 foot rocker is just so 
nice that just the fit needs to 

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be modified just a little bit. 
But this is going to be my daily

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trainer of 2024. 
Nice go next. 

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And usually this is an easy pick
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daily trainer is ultimately for 
myself, which shoe I wear the 

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most and get the most miles in. 
And because of that, it's the 

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shoe that I'm going to just put 
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I don't have an intention behind
getting a certain type of 

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workout in or not even 
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So I like it to be something 
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versatility where it can kind of
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day. 
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down, it can go easy recovery 
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If I'm feeling good, it can have
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So the shoe that I'm actually 
picking breaks my rule because 

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it's not the shoe I have the 
most miles on this year, but 

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that's because it came later in 
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So that's the 361 Elios. 
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worked so well for me was that 
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softness in in there has enough 
responsiveness for faster paces.

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But as you go slower, it felt 
like the change in the 

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cushioning matched my effort. 
And I personally didn't have any

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sort of clunkiness with any 
transitions, which I think for 

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me is really important for a 
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those easier paces. 
So this shoe for me was really 

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smooth and transitioned really 
well. 

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I also really love that it's 
$145.00. 

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And I know it's weird to say 
that that's like the on the 

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cheaper end, quote UN quote of 
the spectrum, but it is now. 

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And I think that the way that 
this performs $445 as a daily 

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trainer wins it for me. 
The shoe that took second is a 

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shoe that I've loved for years, 
and it probably would have 

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better pick if I didn't do my AB
test. 

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But it's the Nova Blast Five. 
I think you can do so many 

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things in this shoe. 
This one has a little bit more 

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versatility on the speed end. 
So a six Nova Blast 5 was my 

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honorable mention for daily 
trainer. 

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Just really, really simple. 
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these two in terms of 
performance for myself was 

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definitely feels a bit firmer in
the Nova Blast, and because of 

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that, the wider base and the 
flaring made it a little clunky 

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for me in the heel in comparison
to the Elios. 

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But both great shoes. 
Loved them both. 

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Andrea, do you want to go next? 
Yeah. 

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So it comes as no surprise to 
people that last year my 

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favorite trainer was the 
Hyperion Max and this year my 

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favorite trainer is the Hyperion
2, which is pretty much the same

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as the Hyperion Max except 
different upper, slightly less 4

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foot rocker. 
But this shoe I've just taken on

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every type of run and especially
this year we've tested so many 

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really high stack shoes. 
I just felt myself wanting like 

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to feel the ground again. 
So anytime I wasn't testing a 

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shoe, I was like, I'm grabbing 
Hyperion too because I just need

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to like feel the pavement and 
feel like my foot is doing 

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something. 
So I've got a ton of miles on 

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it. 
Super comfortable. 

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I actually like the upper in 
Hyperion too, better than 

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Hyperion Max. 
It's just a nicer knit material.

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It's not as stiff across the toe
box. 

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Laces are better, tongues 
better, you don't have that like

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slipping issue that Hyperion Max
had. 

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So yeah, hands down, this is my 
favorite daily trainer. 

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It's also going to appear in 
another choice later, so hang on

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for that. 
Like Nathan, my honorable 

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mention is Nova Blast 5. 
I also like Nova Blast 5 better 

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than version 4 because it is 
firmer. 

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I think they fixed the upper 2. 
They made it a little stiffer 

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over the toes which actually 
made it more secure for me when 

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running fast in it. 
I would say the reason I didn't 

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choose it as first over Hyperion
2 is I don't like the higher 

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stack height. 
Like I'm at the point where I 

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just kind of want to feel the 
ground on more of my runs. 

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And that might be because I 
haven't been marathon training 

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most of the year. 
So I'm not as like dead as I was

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the past couple of years. 
But yeah, Hyperion 2 is hands 

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down the shoe for me this year. 
That's great. 

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And David, what about you? 
Yeah. 

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So as far as like my definition 
of a daily trainer, it's very in

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line with yours. 
It's the shoe that I wear the 

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most, you know, and the shoe 
that I can do a little bit of 

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everything. 
And if I really need to. 

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But for the most part, the way 
my days are structured, if I'm 

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just going on a daily run, I'm 
just running easy. 

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And that might have, you know, 
mostly Rd., There might be some 

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Fire Rd., there might be some 
bluff trails or you know, I got 

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to be able to do a little bit of
everything. 

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Now this will bleed over into 
another category. 

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I don't think this is any 
surprise for anybody who's 

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watching this. 
I've been talking about this 

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shoe all year long, but but it's
A6 GT 2013. 

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Now this is technically in the 
stability category. 

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It's kind of like a mild to 
moderate stability shoe, but in 

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a lot of ways it kind of runs 
almost like a stable neutral, 

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but it's kind of what it is 
right? 

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Like it's a central slash 
stability. 

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So you've kind of mild moderate,
but it's moderate stack height. 

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The blast plus foam just kind of
softens it just enough from 

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previous GT models to where I 
feel like there's still a good 

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amount of cushioning under foot 
and I can still take this for 

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long runs if I need to good 
upper lockdown, somewhat snug, 

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but it breaks in really well and
the material holds itself well. 

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So if you are running like in 
dirt, you don't have to worry 

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about your foot translating or 
anything. 

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Traction on, it's good, super 
durable. 

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I don't know how many miles I 
have on it right now, but I 

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think we're getting pretty close
to 200 now. 

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And it looks like I haven't done
anything to it. 

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So it's been, it's been a very, 
very good workhorse trainer for 

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me. 
And I tend to like the shoes 

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that are a little bit on the 
firmer side and that falls right

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in line with this. 
And I can feel the ground like 

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what Andrea saying, there's so 
many shoes that are just so high

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up and I feel like I kind of 
crave those shoes that are a 

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little bit lower down as well. 
A couple of honorable mansions. 

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I do have several here. 
I'll go. 

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I'll be really quick. 
The first one I've also been 

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talking about what? 
How is it I was the one on good 

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behavior, didn't have 40 
backups. 

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Well, I had my pick. 
That's fair. 

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Yeah. 
Nothing was beating. 

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Your GT? 
That's fair, That's fair. 

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But it's funny because this next
one kind of goes against 

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everything I just said, but it 
there's a couple things that are

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in it that make it similar 
enough, and that's the on cloud 

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monster hyper. 
Now this is a high statue. 

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I. 
Knew this one. 

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And you have the healing on AHF.
It's it's soft, bouncy foam, but

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the regular cloud tech that you 
see here, this orange kind of 

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rim that for the listeners, if 
you can't see, there's kind of 

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like almost like AJ frame, like 
along the posterior lateral heel

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here and it wraps along the 
medial side and goes into there.

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That firms up the shoe a decent 
amount or that really soft inner

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part of that foam. 
You can actually feel the ground

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some because of how firm this 
is. 

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And then you have a little bit 
of outsole traction. 

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It's good, you know, kind of a 
rocker. 

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This is kind of like my high 
stack shoe that I like to kind 

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of gravitate towards that I can 
still use for daily miles and it

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has enough responsiveness to 
kind of turn over a little bit 

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if I need to. 
But for just slopping around, 

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you know, the GT2000 and this 
one have really agreed with me. 

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And then one that I feel like I 
have to say because I've said it

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a few times is the Carhoo 
Oconee. 

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Nice upper, nice rocker, a 
little bit of flexibility 

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upfront. 
You know, it's nothing overly 

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fancy, but it's a nice shoe. 
It transitions really well. 

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I feel like it fits kind of in 
that stable neutral category. 

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You have a little fulcrum in 
there that kind of helps stiffen

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things up and give you a little 
bit of guidance too. 

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But again, it doesn't beat out 
those other two for me. 

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But it's a pretty solid shoe and
I like it a lot. 

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And last one I can't remember. 
Oh my gosh, you have another 

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one? 
Well, because originally like 

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client got me all like thinking 
about it like, oh, I can't 

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choose something that's a 
stability shoe because it has to

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be a neutral shoe. 
And then like this is all pre 

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recording stuff. 
I didn't make you do I just like

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any. 
Questioning. 

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Myself, honestly this one I 
can't remember if it was a 2023 

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or 2024 release. 
We're about to find out. 

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We've had it for a long time. 
Was this Oh no 2024 right or no?

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Can you can you name it the shoe
for? 

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US velocity 930. 
Three, you did it. 

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You actually did it. 
I think it's, I don't know it's.

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Early 24, right? 
I think so. 

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It was early in the year. 
I feel like I'm trying to 

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remember. 
It's been a while, but this was 

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kind of my shoe of the year up 
until the GT. 

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No, no, it was, yeah. 
Yes. 

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And and I Cloudmaster Hyper, so 
very neutral shoe, kind of a 

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traditional, just Nitro, kind of
firmer based Nitro foam gives 

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you a little bit of balance. 
It's a little bit narrow. 

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It's definitely for those with 
neutral mechanics, but upper 

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fits good, ride is good. 
Kind of a traditional neutral 

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trainer. 
That might be the first time you

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said the name of the shoe 
correctly the first time. 

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So congratulations, I practiced 
immensely about five times 

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before you asked me that. 
Before we move on to the next 

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category, Andrea, do you want to
talk about how you define daily 

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trainer? 
I think we skipped over that 

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part. 
Yeah, I'm sorry. 

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That was just because I didn't 
answer it. 

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So similarly, I looked at what 
shoes I have the most miles on, 

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and actually neither of these 
shoes I have the most miles on 

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and we'll get to which one I 
have the most on later. 

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But yeah, a shoe that you do 
most your daily miles and a shoe

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that you can pick up the pace. 
And if you want to, it's usually

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not plated like Matt said, but 
just something that no matter 

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how your legs are feeling, you 
can go out and do an easy, you 

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know, hour in it and be fine. 
Great. 

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All right. 
So our next category is best or 

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favorite stability trainer. 
And for all of us we kind of use

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a similar definition where the 
shoe has purposeful construction

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and design that provides some 
sort of guidance or stability or

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support for the foot. 
And this can span ever from 

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stable neutral shoes as we've 
talked about, we have episodes 

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on that. 
If that term is new to you, you 

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can check those out all the way 
to like shoes that are very 

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intentionally designed with a 
lot of guidance on a particular.

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Side of the shoe. 
So I personally am going to be 

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abstaining from this pic. 
I did not get to test a lot of 

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shoes in the kind of that span 
the range. 

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So I'm not going to be speaking 
into it, but the three of the 

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three of you are. 
So Andrea, can we actually start

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with you and can you give us 
your picks for best or favorite 

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stability shoe? 
Yeah. 

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So both my picks are stable 
neutral shoes. 

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I tend to not do well with like 
true stability shoes just 

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because my stability needs are 
more for a lateral stability. 

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So my number one pick, which 
Matt will highly disagree with 

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me on is the Puma mag Max. 
It is I love this shoe like I 

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whenever I get shoes, I try not 
to be biased against them based 

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on like how previous shoes fit. 
So I'm like all right, Puma 

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they're usually too narrow in 
the toe box for me. 

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I put the shoe on went for like 
a five mile run in it. 

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I was like this shoe is awesome.
It just fits comfortably, but 

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more importantly, the way that 
the sole flare in the forefoot 

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is designed, you can see how 
much fatter it is on the lateral

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side than the medial side. 
So for me, because I tend to 

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land too far laterally, that 
extra material here kind of acts

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as a bumper to prevent that. 
So for me, this shoe just rolls 

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really smooth. 
I can wear it when my legs are 

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really tired and I'm just going 
for a like easy slog. 

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But another thing that I really 
like about this shoe, which a 

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lot of Max stack height shoes 
don't have, you can't, or at 

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least I can't pick up the pace 
in a lot of them. 

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But this shoe, even though it's 
super tall, I think it what it's

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47 millimeters in the heel 41 in
the forefoot right. 

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This shoe has some bounce to it,
so like I could use it on like a

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normal easy run. 
I could use it even on like an 

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up tempo long run if I wanted 
to, and it's still responsive 

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enough that I can run in it. 
So that's my number one pick. 

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My honorable mention Ha, no 
surprise here. 

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Brooks Hyperion Max too. 
So you know, it took me a while 

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to figure out which shoe I liked
better, the Hyperion Max 2 or 

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the Hyperion 2. 
But the more I ran in the Max 2,

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I just felt like it was too 
stiff and I couldn't feel the 

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ground as much as I could in the
original version. 

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And that's what made me like 
Hyperion two more and I found 

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myself using Hyperion Max two 
more on runs were like I was 

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still kind of tired from the 
workout before and I just needed

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a firmer like really rockered 
shoe to kind of help keep me 

446
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,640
moving along. 
And that's what Max 2 was really

447
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280
good at. 
It's got a thicker stack height 

448
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,600
than the original. 
It's really firm, really 

449
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,080
rockard. 
So you know, it's just a shoe 

450
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,480
that keeps you moving. 
Very stable, neutral again, got 

451
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,640
a lot of four foot sole flare. 
It's a little bit biased 

452
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,800
laterally again. 
So that works for me. 

453
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,760
I also like that they improved 
the upper again, just like 

454
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,360
Hyperion 2. 
So yeah, two really good, 

455
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,880
stable, neutral shoes that have 
worked for me. 

456
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,040
So yeah, what are your guys's 
picks? 

457
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,160
Yeah, David, why don't you go 
next? 

458
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,240
We'll let. 
We'll let the King of stability 

459
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,480
go last. 
On this one. 

460
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,440
So how should that be another 
shirt? 

461
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,040
The king of stability. 
Yeah, I. 

462
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,560
Feel like a king of stable 
neutral now because my mechanics

463
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,160
have changed again and I've been
having a slightly hard time at 

464
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,000
certain stability shoes. 
It's a different conversation. 

465
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,200
I'll finish it later. 
David Go. 

466
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,880
Yeah. 
So I mean, I'll probably focus 

467
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,520
more on the honorable mention 
because there is the overlap. 

468
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,560
So my stability shoe is the GT 
2013. 

469
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,760
It is a stability shoe by its 
design. 

470
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,800
So it falls into that category. 
I said all the things I like 

471
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,080
about it, but from the stability
standpoint specifically, there 

472
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,080
is a decent amount of soul 
flaring both ways. 

473
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,760
It's built up a little bit on 
the sidewall immediately and 

474
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,160
it's kind of firmed up a little 
bit what they call a 3D guidance

475
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,440
system. 
And I feel like it's supposed to

476
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,720
be like how you land into it. 
It's kind of how it responds 

477
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,920
back into you. 
And I don't know if I really 

478
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,960
notice it pushing back on me 
that much. 

479
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,800
But I will say it does feel like
it helps guide me a little bit 

480
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,920
forward. 
And I don't feel like I 

481
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,040
collapsed quite as hard through 
that midfoot. 

482
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,480
And it's just enough to really 
kind of give me that little bit 

483
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,840
of stability that I need. 
I don't usually need a lot of 

484
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,160
it, but I've found especially 
over this last year with some of

485
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,080
the foot stuff, it is kind of 
nice to have a little bit. 

486
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,960
So I feel like this is kind of 
like my my stability era 

487
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:49,040
apparently, but so GT 2013 is 
going to be my main pick. 

488
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,680
But my I feel like the Brooks 
Hyperion Lion is getting a lot 

489
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,440
of love. 
My honorable mentions the GTS. 

490
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,920
So Hyperion GTS too. 
There's not a lot of and client 

491
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,800
says this all the time, but 
there's not a lot of stability 

492
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,720
shoes that traditionally you can
run fast in. 

493
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,160
And I have, I've literally run 
like 440 miles in this, like 

494
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,400
this is like one of those shoes 
where I can turn it up and run 

495
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,040
on the track. 
I can run on the road, I can do 

496
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,840
a little bit of everything. 
I can corner well. 

497
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,320
And it's subtle, but it works. 
And I feel like between the 

498
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,560
regular Hyperion and the 
Hyperion GTS, the little edition

499
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,080
of the side wall there and then 
or the guide reel on both the 

500
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,480
medial and lateral aspect, it's 
just enough to kind of lock that

501
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,400
rear foot in a little bit more 
and then really let you power 

502
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,600
off the forefoot. 
And that aside, the shoes are 

503
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,720
pretty darn similar. 
It's small adjustments from the 

504
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,480
regular Hyperion to the GTS. 
But I will say it does make it 

505
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,680
feel more stable. 
It does feel like a stability 

506
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,240
shoe on foot, great traction, 
everything about it. 

507
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,120
It's lower to the ground, like 
this shoe feels stable on your 

508
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:51,680
foot and you can turn it up. 
So for those reasons, there's 

509
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,000
just not really any other shoes,
not very many that I can think 

510
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,920
of that can really line up with 
that. 

511
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,040
And this one does it pretty well
across the board. 

512
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,440
Klein, what about you? 
Right. 

513
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:07,080
So the my top stability pick of 
the year is in line with David 

514
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:11,600
because it's going to be the A6 
G 2013, which we chose 12 last 

515
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,040
year. 
And this is continuing on that 

516
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,440
vein. 
And part of it is the shoe is 

517
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,240
getting a little better. 
The upper was a little bit more 

518
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,120
finessed. 
I like the fact that it fit just

519
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,520
a teeny bit more snug for me. 
And I've done workouts in the 

520
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,240
shoe, I've done long runs, I've 
done everything you can imagine 

521
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,080
in it. 
And that's what's really nice is

522
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840
it is really meant as a 
stability daily trainer, but 

523
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,080
it's one of the lightest 
stability shoes on the market. 

524
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,320
And that's both a positive as 
well as a negative. 

525
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,720
And the negative comes from the 
just we don't have a lot on the 

526
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,560
market. 
I mean, Hyperion GTS 2 is is 

527
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,920
definitely the lightest. 
If the launch GTS is going to 

528
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,160
survive, that would technically 
be the second one. 

529
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,480
This is now lighter than The 
Tempest. 

530
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,520
So in terms of faster stability 
shoes, there aren't really a lot

531
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,040
of options. 
So it's nice to have one that 

532
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,400
really double S as a daily 
trainer and can do that other 

533
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,360
stuff where and the stability 
how it's done is definitely 

534
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,360
completely in line with where 
the current concepts are in 

535
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,320
terms of and David mentioned 
this nice soul flaring gentle 

536
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,520
side walls, not too aggressive 
for those people that are 

537
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,040
sensitive to this. 
It's got the internal geometry. 

538
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,960
That's yes, going to be a little
bit more lateral bias in terms 

539
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,800
of trying to get you that way as
I feel certainly more of that 

540
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,640
medial. 
It almost feels like a post, but

541
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840
I know it's because when you 
collapse and I'm just going that

542
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560
way, and when you compress more 
of a certain area, it's going to

543
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840
firm up and respond back to it 
tries to get you forward. 

544
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,160
I just feel like that's it's, 
it's does a lot of these things 

545
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,480
very, very well with versatility
in a couple different directions

546
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,880
and the durability phenomenal. 
I've got 150 miles on my pair 

547
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,360
and haven't made a dent. 
And I think in today's world, I 

548
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,240
mean, I'm not the nicest of 
shoes, but if you can get your 

549
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,280
money's worth out of a shoe and 
it's going to last, well, it's 

550
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,600
also really important. 
And that's like 145 bucks, 

551
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,360
right? 
That's. 

552
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:51,240
Yeah, Yeah, it's a very 
approachable price point for 

553
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
definitely. 
I can't believe we we just are 

554
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,120
in today's world is saying 145 
is approachable, but that is 

555
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,320
where that is where we are right
now, especially when shoes are 

556
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,520
daily trainers are hitting the 
200 mark. 

557
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,520
But yeah, so this is by far my 
stability shoe of the yard, 

558
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280
similar to David for very 
similar reasons, but also 

559
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000
because it is one of the lighter
ones on the market that still 

560
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,320
has the cushioning and really 
nice balance of not being 

561
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,400
supermax and not being like, Oh,
my foot's on the ground. 

562
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,560
Just does a lot of things really
nicely in the middle. 

563
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,560
So really good job with this 
shoe. 

564
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,040
My runner up has gone between a 
couple things and I'm going to 

565
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,160
give it to the New Balance 860 
for a few different reasons. 

566
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,000
I am really happy with what they
did with this shoe on. 

567
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,160
I think it, it is a little bit 
too much stability for me. 

568
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160
But most of the time and what 
I've discovered over the last 

569
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,320
years, I've actually gotten more
sensitive to higher level 

570
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,800
stability shoes. 
I think because likely the 

571
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,920
amount of strength work that 
I've done and most 99% of the 

572
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,360
strength we're going to do is 
all barefoot. 

573
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,000
So there's been a lot of really 
good foot strength thing that's 

574
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,880
happened. 
I walk almost entirely in more 

575
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,240
minimal or zero drop or bit 
like, you know, anatomic shoes. 

576
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,320
So I think that's really changed
a lot of stuff. 

577
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,360
But what I'm happy with the 860 
is they brought back a design 

578
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,640
that creates a wedge. 
So in today's world, you've 

579
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,480
either got stable neutral or you
still got some posts around 

580
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,600
having a wedge design. 
And a wedge is where the medial 

581
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,080
depending on one side is higher 
than the other. 

582
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,120
So in this case, the medial side
has a little bit higher, it sits

583
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,520
a little bit higher than where 
some of the foams do on the 

584
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,480
lateral side when you compress 
things down. 

585
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,720
So I think that's great because 
some people, it's not just about

586
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,440
how much motion they have, but 
there are certain people that 

587
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,360
have different deformities. 
I don't want to call them 

588
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,240
deformities, positional 
differences where one part of 

589
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,880
the foot might be a little bit 
elevated. 

590
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720
And those people often do really
wear it well when the shoe 

591
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,000
actually comes up to them. 
That's not everybody, but the 

592
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,240
fact that we actually have at 
least one option on the market 

593
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,600
is great for this. 
The toe box is also really good,

594
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,960
uppers great durability has been
fairly good, but they just do a 

595
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,320
lot of things really well. 
It's it is stable neutral 

596
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,400
concepts, right wider midfoot 
sidewalls, but the wedge design 

597
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840
makes this unique enough that 
I'm really happy to do balance. 

598
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,520
This is definitely my runner up,
not just for myself, but also 

599
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,160
the population for people still 
having an option so great. 

600
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080
There we go. 
All right, so we have two more 

601
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,160
categories for the day. 
The first one is pretty 

602
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,080
self-explanatory. 
It's our favorite shoe for the 

603
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,920
long run. 
So these are going to be shoes 

604
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,520
that we reach for when we know 
we have a big amount of miles or

605
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,080
hours on the docket for the day.
So I'm going to go first just 

606
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920
because I haven't talked in a 
while, I guess I don't know, but

607
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,360
just to Get Me Out of the way is
really it. 

608
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,480
So I have both of my picks are 
platelets shoes. 

609
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,600
And I think that with everything
that I've been going through 

610
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,280
regarding my foot, I've 
appreciated shoes that have some

611
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,400
rocker geometry but aren't 
overly stiff. 

612
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,320
Because if the rocker is just 
slightly off and it's too stiff,

613
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,560
it tends to aggravate what I've 
had going on with my foot. 

614
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,320
And so I actually have, I could 
pull a David and pull out like 5

615
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,200
shoes right now, but I'm going 
to talk about two and then 

616
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,840
reference 1/3. 
So my pick for this year is the 

617
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Triumph 22 from Saucony. 
I think that there's been pretty

618
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,640
mixed experiences with this shoe
on our team overall, but I 

619
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,480
really appreciated the soft 
instep. 

620
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,720
But then once you get running, 
it kind of finds a better sweet 

621
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,320
spot of how much cushion there 
is underneath the foot. 

622
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,200
Really roomy toe box, like fits 
long for me and I actually 

623
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,840
appreciate having that extra 
space. 

624
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,040
Relatively stiff but has some 
flexibility so it can operate 

625
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,760
off of a slight rocker. 
There's no toe spring. 

626
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,640
Really soft heel counter without
being too loose. 

627
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,760
So I just appreciated the upper 
lockdown. 

628
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,480
Really comfortable. 
I had no issues with hotspots or

629
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,520
anything like that. 
I haven't. 

630
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,400
I hadn't been testing this shoe 
in a while and last weekend I 

631
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,040
went out for I think it was 
about an hour and a half and I 

632
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,320
was like, if I could pick any 
shoe, what would I pick? 

633
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,600
And I went and I grabbed this 
one. 

634
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,560
So that solidified the pick for 
me. 

635
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,920
The second one is also non 
plated, but it's the Super blast

636
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,400
from a six. 
It's I'm not I don't need to 

637
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,840
talk too much about this shoe 
because I think it people have 

638
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,640
talked about it at nauseam, but 
it's lightweight, lot of cushion

639
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,480
and I I think that it again, is 
not too soft. 

640
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,760
So I don't get lost in the shoe 
and is stiff enough to operate 

641
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360
off the rocker, but has some 
flexibility once you put it 

642
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,000
through. 
So I appreciate that shoe for 

643
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,880
the long run. 
And then the other one that 

644
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,000
would have gotten on my list, 
but I won't talk about it much 

645
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,080
is the on cloud monster hyper. 
I did a lot of long runs in that

646
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,360
shoe too. 
Very similar, non plated, but it

647
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,480
did have a lot of cushion, 
slight flexibility, but operated

648
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,200
off the rocker. 
So Andrea, do you want to go 

649
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,200
next? 
Sure. 

650
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,400
So my top pick is the shoe I've 
done the most miles in this 

651
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,480
year. 
I now have three 300 miles on it

652
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,080
and it is the Mizuno Wave 
Rebellion flash too. 

653
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,120
Wow. 
This shoe is still going strong 

654
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,080
at 300 miles. 
You can see, you know, there's a

655
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,280
little where where I land here, 
but otherwise in pretty good 

656
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,800
shape and the foam still feels 
pretty much the same. 

657
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,280
I mean the upper the shoe was 
white when it was new. 

658
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,160
I've got a. 
Lot of rainy runs it is, yeah. 

659
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,720
Like it's a fade. 
I created a new colorway, but 

660
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,680
this shoe and you know, I've 
written and talked about a lot 

661
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,760
about it this year, but this 
year just feels like it's 

662
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,280
designed for midfoot strikers 
and that's because of the 

663
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,960
extreme heel heel bevel, 
although it's not as extreme as 

664
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,440
the wave rebellion Pro 2, which 
I also really liked. 

665
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,040
The foam is bouncy, but not too 
bouncy. 

666
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,160
The four foot rocker it's not. 
It doesn't start really early, 

667
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,640
which usually doesn't work for 
me. 

668
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,360
It just everything lines up with
my foot and the way I run and I 

669
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,000
can do, you know, 20 miles no 
problem in the shoe and feel 

670
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,840
great afterwards. 
So I basically used it for most 

671
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,000
of my long runs this year, 
especially like after, you know,

672
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,960
I was done with Osaka training 
and most of my long runs were 

673
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,960
like in the 12 to 15 mile range.
So that's how you get 300 miles 

674
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,480
on a shoe just using it once or 
twice a week. 

675
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,840
So Yep, hands down, I'm so glad 
I have a new backup pair that 

676
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,120
Mizuno sent me in the red color 
way. 

677
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,000
So I will be yes, I will be 
running in this shoe for much 

678
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,679
longer. 
So then my honorable mention, 

679
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,159
which when I was training for 
Osaka was kind of like my backup

680
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:38,239
like long run shoe. 
I bet none of you know what shoe

681
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,280
I'm picking. 
Cielo Really. 

682
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,000
Yeah, that. 
Doesn't. 

683
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,679
Surprise me. 
I thought you hated that shoe. 

684
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,320
No I love this shoe. 
I ran 20 miles on the treadmill 

685
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,000
in this shoe. 
Oh disgusting and I felt 

686
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,040
amazing. 
So I would consider racing a 

687
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,640
marathon in this shoe if it 
wasn't so heavy because it's for

688
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,400
women in like the mid 7 oz range
which. 

689
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,520
It's. 
Pretty yeah for. 

690
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,800
Men's, Yeah. 
Yeah, so that's just that's too 

691
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,880
heavy in my opinion. 
I know lots of people use it for

692
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,200
marathons and are fine, but too 
heavy for me. 

693
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,400
But why do I like it? 
Well, one, the geometry works 

694
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,360
really well. 
Again, laterally biased 4 foot 

695
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,800
soul flare. 
It's just really stable for me, 

696
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,920
even though it has this giant 
midsole cut out laterally that I

697
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,120
think bothered David a lot. 
But I just didn't really feel it

698
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,400
when I was running. 
And it's definitely one of the 

699
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,160
softer shoes that I like, but it
just doesn't feel too soft. 

700
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,400
And I think that's because of 
how early the rocker starts. 

701
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,560
Like you land and it's soft, but
then you just like rock it off 

702
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:55,880
the front. 
So besides the flash too, I've 

703
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,560
done quite a few long runs in 
this shoe and just very happy 

704
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,680
with the fit and the ride. 
So I can't wait to test version 

705
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,120
2 because I think it's lighter, 
right? 

706
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,040
I would. 
Think so. 

707
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,640
I just looked it up, the weight 
of that shoe is 9.3 oz or 264 

708
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,280
grams in men's size 10 and 7.4 
oz or 210 grams in women's size 

709
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,000
8. 
So. 

710
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,800
Yeah, it's up there. 
Yeah. 

711
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,160
And when the shoe I've run my 
last two marathons and is the 

712
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,040
Vaporfly 3, that's a pretty big.
Big difference. 

713
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:29,360
Yeah, yeah. 
All right, Matt, what do you 

714
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,520
got? 
Another category I'm going back 

715
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,920
and forth in the Glycerin Max 
has definitely been an issue 

716
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560
that I've gotten a good number 
of miles on for long runs. 

717
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,600
But long runs now for me means 
something very different than 

718
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,680
they did in the past. 
No longer are the, you know, 

719
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,760
just like, hey, I'm going to go 
jog or run an easy pace because 

720
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,280
my wife is really going, hey, I 
want to get back to running 

721
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,520
faster. 
I want to really want to push 

722
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,480
these. 
So whenever you say long run, I 

723
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,440
get a little nervous because I'm
going all right, we're going to 

724
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,000
be basically holding like an up 
tempo, like temporally long 

725
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,200
tempo pace for 1213 miles. 
And so I haven't done much more 

726
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,320
than that. 
But every one of those runs has 

727
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,920
definitely been a little bit 
faster. 

728
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:11,560
And so for those reasons, 
there's one shoot in particular.

729
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,680
It's definitely carried. 
I carried me by carried, I mean 

730
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,240
survived pushing the stroller, 
chasing my wife through this. 

731
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,880
But like Nathan, the Super Blast
2 has just been that. 

732
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,880
And I'm going to give a shout 
out for this shoe. 

733
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,120
And I agree, Nathan, that a lot 
of people have already talked 

734
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,720
about the shoe. 
So you don't we don't need to go

735
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,840
in AD nauseam about this, but it
is the lightest one of these 

736
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,440
kind of like super stack super 
trainers on the markets in the 

737
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,880
like mid to high 8 oz range, 
which is phenomenal. 

738
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,200
The fit is something that still 
gave me a little trouble where 

739
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,920
it just feels like a tiny bit 
short because it tapers, but 

740
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,320
that usually goes away and it's 
like I feel that on the start of

741
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,000
the run and then it goes away 
and it's not been an issue. 

742
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,040
So uppers really secure foam is 
really nice and and like not 

743
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,560
unstable, but like firmly 
bouncy. 

744
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,960
I've never found this to be 
soft, but is also the best 

745
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,920
stable neutral of this category,
which has worked very, very well

746
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,360
for me, especially when I 
fatigue. 

747
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920
The other shout out I want to 
get to this shoe is I think this

748
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,880
is one of the best options for 
recreational runners going. 

749
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,840
You know what I like my vapor 
fly. 

750
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,360
I like my ASICS meta speed or 
whatever, but they're going. 

751
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,480
I just can't get to a marathon 
or I'm getting all these aches 

752
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,280
and pains. 
This shoe might not be these 

753
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,040
aggressive shoes might not be 
working for me. 

754
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,760
I think this is a really great 
racing option for the general 

755
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,920
public and I'm not trying to poo
poo people and say, oh, you 

756
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,400
shouldn't be using this shoe 
type. 

757
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,320
I'm just saying that shoe type 
may not always be designed with 

758
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,400
you in mind. 
So if it's not, if it's working 

759
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080
for you, awesome, go for it. 
But if it's not working for you,

760
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,800
there's a category of shoes that
I think the Super blast is 

761
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,480
leading that I think a lot of 
people should be considering for

762
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,840
like half to full marathon 
racing because it's definitely 

763
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,480
carried me through a lot. 
I agree. 

764
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,200
The four foot's really nice, but
there's no plate, but it's still

765
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,480
sniff enough to handle faster. 
I've done track workouts, I've 

766
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,440
done my longest runs in this 
shoe. 

767
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,480
I've done everything. 
So it got a lot of versatility 

768
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,560
in there. 
So I'm definitely going to give 

769
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,560
this my long run shoe of the 
year because it's just something

770
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,160
I can rely on and know exactly 
what I'm going to get when I put

771
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,600
it on no matter what my wife is 
throwing at us that day. 

772
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,680
I'm going to give 2 honorable 
mentions and they're all on the 

773
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,640
floor here. 
So the first one is going to be 

774
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,400
the Mizuna Wave Neo Vista and I 
really enjoyed it. 

775
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,920
It was one of those shoes where 
it just was insanely bouncy and 

776
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,320
it did really really good. 
My only challenge with this shoe

777
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,200
is the upper was a little harder
to get like fit down and the 

778
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,640
sole really change very quickly 
where it was like insanely 

779
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,360
bouncing the first 20-30 miles 
and then just kind of that 

780
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,360
response just dropped really 
quick and it got a little mushy.

781
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,520
If you like softer shoes, that's
going to be a phenomenal thing. 

782
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,520
For me, it kind of fell off, but
I'm still really impressed with 

783
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,440
what Mizuno is doing and how far
they progressed, even with a 

784
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,320
midsole that I didn't realize 
wasn't people. 

785
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,880
So I think there's a lot of good
things here that made me go huh,

786
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,240
This is another option that 
people want a really bouncy shoe

787
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,280
that might work for racing for a
lot of people. 

788
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,360
Another really great option that
I think is going to work well. 

789
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,760
The other one it this would have
actually taken my top spot if 

790
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,480
not for a durability problem and
it's going to be the hook up 

791
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,160
mock X2. 
I have loved this shoe of the 

792
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,720
miles. 
I have been able to do it and I 

793
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:22,040
did everything It felt great. 
It's taken me through a time 

794
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,240
where I was actually very sick 
and I was and these guys are 

795
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:25,800
going to make fun. 
Because I already have going, 

796
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,200
oh, he's sick and he probably 
needs to get imaging, but he's 

797
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,960
still like doing it, trying to 
do workouts. 

798
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,040
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, just
stupid. 

799
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,520
But I really like the redesign. 
The heel bevel is so much better

800
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,000
than the plus version. 
It was more centrally stable. 

801
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Not an overly stable shoe just 
because it's soft, but it's 

802
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,640
really bouncy, really snappy and
it's work well. 

803
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,440
Another shoe that if you're not 
hard on your heels after 50 

804
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,520
miles, I think is going to work 
well for you. 

805
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,200
But I ripped this outsole, so 
the durability is not great. 

806
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,600
Obviously I'm really hard on 
shoes, so that was what really 

807
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,200
kept it from being at the top 
spot. 

808
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,440
But I'm looking forward to 
seeing what they do in version 

809
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,880
three, although I actually 
didn't have any trouble with the

810
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,720
heel, which is the biggest 
thing. 

811
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:11,320
So another the all three of 
these shoes are great long run 

812
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,000
shoes. 
They feel really comfortable. 

813
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,640
I like this one and the soup 
glass a little bit more just 

814
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,840
because they're not as kind of 
wobbly as the Vista is the O 

815
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,800
Vista, but the Super blast 
Windstream. 

816
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,360
But I think all these have a 
really great place for the 

817
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,600
recreational runner going. 
You know what, the superation 

818
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,720
issues are more aggressive, 
what's going to help me get to 

819
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,680
the finish line in a time that I
want. 

820
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,600
I think these are things that 
people should pay more attention

821
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,280
to. 
And it seems like Matt, correct 

822
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,080
me if I'm wrong, but the 
durability issues you had are 

823
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,160
kind of Matt, durability issues 
and maybe not everyone 

824
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,440
durability issues because you've
ripped off that. 

825
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:50,200
I feel like that pod design of 
lateral like rubber, you RIP it 

826
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,200
off within 20 to 30 miles, no 
matter how good the rubber 

827
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,120
itself is. 
It's more like you just RIP the 

828
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,560
adhesive. 
Is that true or do you disagree?

829
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,200
I would say that is partially 
true. 

830
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,240
I think it's partially also with
that shoe that this so much 

831
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:07,880
softer and I think the outsole 
over also feels slightly softer 

832
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,360
where softer shoes are generally
inherently less durable. 

833
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,760
It's just how things go. 
Firmer shoes typically have 

834
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,320
greater outsole hardness and so 
they tend to last longer. 

835
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,160
But you are right with the CLO X
one that Andrea held up earlier,

836
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,840
I had the same problem. 
That one held on a little 

837
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200
longer, but just when it's 
designed with that outsole 

838
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,760
outsole patch where I'm going to
like hit it right there because 

839
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,920
I tend to like scuff that 
lateral midfoot heel. 

840
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,960
I'm not as extreme as a heel 
striker. 

841
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,520
I just kind of scuffed that 
area, which gives great 

842
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,040
indication of man. 
All the companies should pay me 

843
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,120
going here, send that to shoe. 
How long is it going to last? 

844
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,800
We don't need that like fake 
like what's that called the 

845
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,920
impactor, because that's not 
that's not accurate. 

846
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,640
Just send it to me let. 
Matt, do it give. 

847
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,920
Me a couple miles, but I think 
partially yes, also partially no

848
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,160
because what was great and for 
those of you that that comment 

849
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,040
on the YouTube reviews that I 
the comparison reviews when I 

850
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,600
asked like, hey, can you put 
your thoughts? 

851
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,200
Some people there is a lot of 
mixed people where they said 

852
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,000
some people like yeah, I just 
ripped through this super quick 

853
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,920
and other people's nose. 
So I think it's if you're just 

854
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,480
have the mechanics that are 
going to cause a lot of friction

855
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,880
on that type of sole, it's going
to crush it no matter where you 

856
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,800
land. 
Because I also have a lot of 

857
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,400
four footwear on that shoe too, 
so but I'm also a weirdo, so. 

858
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,520
Maybe. 
All right, David, round us up 

859
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,720
with this one. 
Yeah, so like Nate, I have 3 

860
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,440
shoes as well. 
So if we have the ASIC Super 

861
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,880
Blast 2 as my main pick, a 
little bit firmer than the other

862
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,880
Max stack shoes, decent 
traction, good rocker firm, good

863
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,080
sidewalls, yadda yadda, all the 
stuff that everyone's kind of 

864
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,000
said already and people have 
said at length, but it's on the 

865
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,400
lighter end. 
It can take a beating sometimes 

866
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,600
these long runs if I'm in a 
marathon block can get as long 

867
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,000
as 20, you know, 23 or 24 
sometimes. 

868
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,640
And for the most part, I'm 
usually going to be more in that

869
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,720
16 to 20 range for long runs. 
But if I'm just going out there 

870
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,800
and I know I'm going to be out 
there for a long time, it does 

871
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,080
pretty darn well at almost any 
pace I throw at it. 

872
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,600
I have done long run tempos in 
it and it kind of just ends up 

873
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,760
winning across the board there. 
But my other two here for just 

874
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,080
slopping around and easy stuff. 
This was one of my daily 

875
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,600
training picks, but the on cloud
monster hyper can also take a 

876
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040
beating for long miles. 
Little bit of gentle guidance 

877
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,320
from the cloud tech just nice 
and rhythmic for hitting longer 

878
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,160
efforts. 
The last one is if I know that 

879
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,240
we're going to be hitting a 
little bit of faster and I'd and

880
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,080
I want a little bit more 
responsiveness out of it. 

881
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,600
It's the Saucony endorphins 
speed for a little bit more 

882
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,680
flexible. 
This one is plated, but it kind 

883
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,720
of lines up with the other ones 
where it's more of a flexible 

884
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,040
plate versus a rigid non plated 
rocker. 

885
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,920
You know, kind of lines up there
with the moderate flexibility, 

886
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,880
but good traction people based 
Nitzel, good responsiveness, 

887
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,520
good connectivity to the ground.
Like if I'm going to be going a 

888
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,760
little bit faster, but I don't 
want to be super shoot up, it's 

889
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,440
about as close as you can get 
without being full super shoot 

890
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,560
up, so. 
Well, let's transition to the 

891
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,640
last category for this episode 
and that's trail shoes. 

892
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,720
And Andrea, you are abstaining 
from this one, correct? 

893
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,400
Because you basically tested 1 
shoe and it was OK. 

894
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,000
So now why don't you, why don't 
you start us off at this one and

895
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,800
then we'll go around the horn. 
So we we don't get to test a lot

896
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,360
of trail stuff, although I've 
actually done quite a bit of 

897
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,880
trail running with Isabella, 
which has been the hardest thing

898
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,880
I've ever done in my life is and
the the Tule stroller does not 

899
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,080
do well. 
For those who know that I have a

900
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Tule and a guava that I run with
her. 

901
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,000
The guava actually can handle 
soft surfaces pretty well. 

902
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,080
Even though it feels like it's 
jostling. 

903
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,760
She's just sitting there 
chilling as the terrains 

904
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,960
bouncing under her. 
This trail shoe also got a ton 

905
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,520
of sand miles and my wife and I 
spent some time out at the coast

906
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,640
and I was like, I need a shoe 
that can handle the sand. 

907
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,160
And thank goodness Northwest 
beaches are firmer than 

908
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,400
something like LA, which it 
would have been a nightmare. 

909
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,080
So my top trail shoe of the year
is actually a little bit of a 

910
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,200
mixed bag because there's some 
things I love about it. 

911
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,080
There's something I also don't 
like about it, but we'll talk 

912
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,200
about that and that I'm going to
screw the name up, but it's the 

913
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:12,240
Adidas Terex Speed Ultra. 
Did I do that Ultra speed ultra?

914
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,160
Not an aggravic. 
Remember aggravic, Yes. 

915
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,600
And there's that word thrown in 
there. 

916
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,760
No. 
Yeah, I can't do these long 

917
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,760
names anymore. 
I'm sorry Adidas, I love you 

918
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,720
guys but and gals, but I can't I
can't do these names. 

919
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,880
So this is their super trail 
shoe and one of the earlier 

920
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,080
super trail shoes and now we're 
seeing a ton of them on the 

921
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,640
market. 
I have gotten a good number of 

922
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,680
miles on this shoe at a variety 
of paces. 

923
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,960
I almost used it for the cross 
country series that my wife 

924
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,720
conned me into doing even though
I had no like not a ton of soft 

925
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,000
running experience and she did 
well and I got crushed. 

926
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,000
But the only reason I didn't do 
it is because of this mid, but 

927
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,840
which doesn't work as well for 
me. 

928
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,840
It's really narrow. 
It doesn't feel that narrow on 

929
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,080
more like stable terrain. 
But once you get a little 

930
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,240
unstable, it is. 
So I think you do need to have 

931
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:01,720
really stable mechanics for this
shoe. 

932
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,280
But I love the forefoot. 
The forefoot is phenomenal. 

933
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,080
It is very snappy. 
I have actually done a track 

934
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,520
workout in this shoe and it felt
phenomenal and I was like 

935
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,960
whipping across with a stroller.
So I'm really excited. 

936
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,880
Also, it's not mushy. 
So even though it's clearly the 

937
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,200
light strike pro midsole foam, 
it's not mushy, it's a little 

938
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,400
bit firmer and it just feels 
really snappy and nice under 

939
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,960
foot. 
And I've been able to do very 

940
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,360
long efforts in this. 
Even though I fatigue, it just 

941
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,680
feels nice because I can keep 
turning over at a consistent 

942
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,160
speed. 
It's definitely not the fastest 

943
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,320
shoe on the market because it is
a trail shoe, but it just did 

944
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,880
really, really well for me on a 
variety of things pushing a 

945
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,520
stroller. 
And so I really like it. 

946
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,680
I just hope Adidas you kind of 
look at that midfoot and go, 

947
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,960
hey, this is this is a trail 
shoe. 

948
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,760
Like maybe it's not who I'm not 
who this is designed for. 

949
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,440
It's more of a like elite, but I
think if you want the general 

950
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,080
population, maybe think about 
this shoe. 

951
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,080
There is also the Agravic speed 
that is kind of a little more 

952
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,080
mild version of this. 
This is also is actually a 

953
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,360
really great shoe, but I just 
really liked getting some miles 

954
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,320
on this and it was really fun. 
So the other shoe before you go 

955
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,520
on, I have it pulled up, there 
is a shoe that looks like that. 

956
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,120
That's the Adidas Terex Aggravic
Speed Ultra. 

957
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,040
Is that the one that you're 
talking about? 

958
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,640
That is, I just forgot the 
graphic, so I did get the almost

959
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,160
right order of everything else. 
Which is great. 

960
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,120
So that's the Graphic Speed 
Ultra. 

961
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,080
Yeah, you guys, we got to 
shorten the names up. 

962
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,360
This is not necessary anymore. 
Like not just Adidas, it's 

963
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,480
everybody. 
We can't. 

964
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,760
David, what's my favorite? 
I didn't know the speed was in 

965
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,240
there. 
What's what's my favorite one 

966
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:39,120
that you talk about the GTRC 3 
PO R2D2? 

967
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Oh yes. 
Not the from Anta. 

968
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Yeah, yeah, you do it. 
Anta C2O2GT5 just love that. 

969
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,160
I like the C3PO though, that was
good. 

970
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,840
That's great. 
So my runner up is going to be 

971
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,200
the Salman S slab Pulsar 3. 
Now this isn't normally 

972
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,480
something that I would have 
gotten, but my wife and I my 

973
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,960
wife who is used to be sponsored
by Salomon, grabbed me a pair 

974
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,200
for the cross country series 
we're doing and I'm very happy I

975
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,440
grabbed this. 
As someone who hasn't worn a 

976
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,400
cross spike in years that 
probably would have caused an 

977
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,080
Achilles injury for me, this was
very surprising that the the 

978
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,200
grip phenomenal. 
This is the lightest trail shoe 

979
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,440
on the market, or at least it's 
close to it. 

980
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,520
I think NN normal might have one
that's similar, but grip there's

981
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,920
still a rocker despite being 
more of a moderate to lower 

982
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,080
stack height shoe. 
And I was still able to get 

983
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,440
through cross country without 
any major injury, which is a 

984
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,640
great thing because I wasn't 
prepared for it at all. 

985
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,960
Didn't know we were going to be 
doing that. 

986
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,200
So I really enjoyed this. 
And for people that maybe don't 

987
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,320
like wear shoes like the speed 
ultra are going with like really

988
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,240
tall stack heights and all all 
the trail stuff is getting crazy

989
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,400
tall for the most part. 
If you want something you can 

990
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,440
run fast and maybe over shorter 
distances or you want that kind 

991
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,160
of more balanced ride, this is a
great shoe. 

992
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,360
It it does fit really snug, as 
many Salomon shoes do. 

993
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,280
So that took me a second to get 
used to, but I could still roll 

994
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,120
and was clicking off sub six 
minute miles on soft terrain in 

995
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,040
this shoe. 
So I really enjoyed that. 

996
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,240
I know Salomon has really 
changed the next version, so 

997
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:14,400
we'll see how that goes. 
But this is definitely my runner

998
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,760
up because it's such a balanced 
ride and it was a very 

999
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,800
refreshing thing that helped me 
survive the couple cross country

1000
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,360
races that I did. 
Nice, great picks. 

1001
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,360
I have two that I'll I'll talk 
through pretty quickly here. 

1002
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,320
The first one is a shoe that I 
didn't agree too much with the 

1003
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,240
first two versions. 
It's actually I had some like 

1004
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,480
slight PTSD with this model 
because my initial foot stuff 

1005
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,840
started like in a run that I was
wearing the shoe in. 

1006
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,080
The shoe wasn't the problem. 
It was lots of other stuff, but 

1007
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:51,160
it's the Hoka Tectonex 3. 
I really loved the midsole of 

1008
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,200
the shoe. 
They totally revamped it. 

1009
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Really entirely different feel 
of the midsole. 

1010
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,480
Really bouncy and soft, but not 
overly soft that it becomes 

1011
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,240
scary on trails. 
Felt really stable. 

1012
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,720
I have a history of rolling my 
ankles and I had no issues in 

1013
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:06,880
this. 
I got to take it out to the 

1014
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,840
Reinhart Red Hood Regional Park 
when I was out in Oakland for a 

1015
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:16,280
conference and those, it was 
very, very mountainous terrain 

1016
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,080
and very uneven, very rocky and 
lots of roots. 

1017
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,720
And I had, I, I didn't roll my 
ankle at all, which is a huge 

1018
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,800
win for me. 
So I, I loved it on that. 

1019
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,680
I also did some Rd. miles in 
this shoe and because the lugs 

1020
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,760
aren't super deep, I think 
they're 4mm. 

1021
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,440
It did really well there, 
especially with the cushioning 

1022
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,880
system that it has. 
I was actually really hoping 

1023
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:42,880
that the Mock X2 would feel like
this under foot when it came and

1024
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,080
it just doesn't. 
The Mock X2 is more stiff and it

1025
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,000
it just, it didn't work for me. 
So maybe someday they'll 

1026
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,760
basically put the shoe in a road
model. 

1027
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,480
I'll be happy. 
I got along super well with this

1028
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,840
upper. 
I have a really sneaky suspicion

1029
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,920
that not everyone would because 
it is a booty construction. 

1030
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,080
It's going to not fit somebody's
foot, but it fit mine really, 

1031
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,960
really well. 
So that just added to it working

1032
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,720
perfectly for me. 
Huge fan of the shoe, plan to 

1033
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,280
use it a lot. 
It also, it's interesting 

1034
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,240
because usually this isn't what 
I pick for my trail shoes of the

1035
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:19,040
year, but I just loved the ride 
so much that I had to because 

1036
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,720
usually what I pick is something
that is a lot more versatile. 

1037
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,440
And I've said, I think this is 
what I said last year. 

1038
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,400
It's like, I just want a trail 
shoe that I can go on a hike 

1039
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,480
with my family, but I also could
go for a little bit of a run 

1040
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,160
like I'm never going for pay. 
So it doesn't need to be light 

1041
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,000
and fast. 
It just needs to be comfortable 

1042
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,400
and stable. 
This shoe fits that category 

1043
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,320
more. 
Last year, I think my pick was 

1044
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,120
the Solomon Ultra Glide. 
This year it's the Ford 

1045
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:47,920
Experience Wild from Ultra, and 
I I think that it just has a lot

1046
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,760
of simplicity in the design. 
It's got a wider construction. 

1047
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,880
The heel has some unique kind of
cushioning that I thought was 

1048
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,400
weird at first, but it actually 
held the heel really well. 

1049
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,440
It opened up enough, unlike some
other Ultras this year, there's 

1050
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,000
enough room in the forefoot. 
The only downfall for me, which 

1051
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,200
is not going to be a downfall 
for others, was there is some 

1052
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,880
toe spring in this shoe and that
was slightly bothersome, which 

1053
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,600
is probably why it didn't just 
take my number one spot. 

1054
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,120
But I like this shoe. 
I've done a lot of hiking in it 

1055
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,880
and when I've gone on some trail
runs, this is what I've been 

1056
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,720
taking out as well. 
So big fan of this shoe. 

1057
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,280
David, I think you get to wrap 
us up. 

1058
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Oh man, I'll just preface this 
by saying someone in this 

1059
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,040
country listening to this is 
going to be like, yeah, 

1060
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,880
California trails aren't trails.
What you're saying in the 

1061
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,160
Oakland Mountain? 
I'll say that. 

1062
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,400
I will say Santa Barbara's got 
some pretty technical ones. 

1063
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,160
So the whole 9 trails course. 
They've never been to central 

1064
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,880
Wisconsin. 
I took it on this mountain. 

1065
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,640
It was really rugged. 
They're like y'all don't know 

1066
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:56,600
mountains. 
I would just like to say the 

1067
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,800
reason I don't test as many 
trail shoes is all of our trails

1068
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:06,120
are like death rocky terrain 
where I'm going to lose an ankle

1069
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,960
within 10 minutes. 
So if I lived in California, I'd

1070
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,640
test all the trail shoes too. 
So much that's like the nicest 

1071
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,720
way to throw shade ever. 
I'm actually going to back David

1072
00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:22,200
up here. 
So where I live, I used to live 

1073
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,240
in Monrovia, like all along the 
San Gabriel Mountains. 

1074
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:28,840
It there is a lot of phenomenal 
trails that range from like fire

1075
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,960
road to extremely technical. 
So and there's a lot of trail 

1076
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,800
runners in Southern California. 
Those hit those mountains. 

1077
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,960
So for those that say that 
California doesn't have real 

1078
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,560
mountain, the real trails, I 
have some news that you might 

1079
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,040
need to go check out the huge 
trail running groups out there. 

1080
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,320
They are runnable for the most 
part, but there are plenty of 

1081
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,680
places where they are less 
runnable so you kind of get a 

1082
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,480
little bit of everything except 
wet maybe except once or twice a

1083
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,600
year, and when it's wet it 
sucks. 

1084
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,960
Anywho, anyway, the other thing 
is if you're watching this and I

1085
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,280
was making faces while Nathan 
was speaking, when you were 

1086
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,040
saying all those things about 
the experience, wild. 

1087
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,600
I thought you were talking about
the Tectonics 3. 

1088
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,000
I'm like, yeah, I can totally 
hike and walk and run easy in 

1089
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,560
this ultra high tech racing shoe
that. 

1090
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,920
No, yes, that's not what I was 
thinking. 

1091
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,640
Yeah, it took me a second and I 
was like, oh, he's talking about

1092
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,440
the ultra. 
Got it. 

1093
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,880
I was kidding. 
That's what I usually look for 

1094
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,200
exactly that was my point. 
If it wasn't clear, it's like 

1095
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,600
usually like this, just the 
tectonics 3 is not usually my 

1096
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,800
profile for trail shoe that I 
that I gravitate towards and I 

1097
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,960
and if it's so expensive that in
real life, I say it is real 

1098
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,000
life, but I wouldn't I wouldn't 
spend my own money on this shoe,

1099
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,920
which is funny to say, right? 
But like how much is it? 

1100
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,640
I think it's like two 250 to 
$300.00. 

1101
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,200
So that's just I I wouldn't buy 
a super shoe either. 

1102
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:53,920
So the only reason I test those 
things is because I'm part of 

1103
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,240
Doctors of Running. 
All right, let's move forward. 

1104
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,280
So this last year I haven't 
really hit the trails quite as 

1105
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,400
much as I have in previous 
years. 

1106
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:10,040
But for me, I'm usually out 
there running more. 

1107
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,200
So on the easy side, I'm not 
really bombing trails super 

1108
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,000
hard. 
I'm not racing at trail 

1109
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,280
distances. 
So for me, security is really 

1110
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,200
important and there are some 
pretty steep declines and 

1111
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,520
technical trails here in Santa 
Barbara for when I do run in 

1112
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,560
them. 
But my main is going to be the 

1113
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,240
Hoka Speed Goat, Hoka Speed Goat
6, Everything I just said 

1114
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,320
secure, good sidewalls, good 
lockdown, good traction. 

1115
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,800
It kind of checks all those 
boxes. 

1116
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,080
It's a little bit, well, I don't
know, it's a decent weight for 

1117
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,200
what it is, for how much is on 
it, but it's a little bit 

1118
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,560
heavier than some other things 
out there. 

1119
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,600
But it checks all those boxes 
and it's a very trustworthy 

1120
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,040
shoe, which is what I'm mainly 
looking for on the trails these 

1121
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,040
days. 
We'll see if that changes in 

1122
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,920
time. 
But for right now, I'm kind of 

1123
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,000
looking to just have a nice 
secure shoe on my foot while I'm

1124
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,600
going and running and things 
that I might break an ankle in. 

1125
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,240
The other one, I have two. 
Wait, what's that? 

1126
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,760
Can I guess you're a runner up? 
It's going to be the, it's going

1127
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,160
to be the Evo Pro 1, correct? 
You are close. 

1128
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:16,320
OK, got it. 
And by close, I mean Brooks 

1129
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:24,560
Cascade 18, all the same things,
very secure, wide base, good 

1130
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,240
traction grips well, upper has a
little bit more volume to it, 

1131
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,920
but it it holds everything well.
We got this a little bit later 

1132
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,560
in the year, so I don't have 
quite as many miles on this one,

1133
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,800
but again, checks all those 
boxes. 

1134
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,320
It's a very trustworthy shoe. 
I think between the speed goat 

1135
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,720
and the Cascadia, those have 
been kind of two trustworthy 

1136
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,840
ones for a lot of people for 
quite a while now. 

1137
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,920
But for this year's line up, if 
I did have to go a little bit 

1138
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,760
quicker, I didn't try the 
Aggravates Ultra this year, but 

1139
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,400
the Ultra, Ultra Mont Block 
Carbon 2, Carbon 2, right. 

1140
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,840
It's the second version. 
Yeah. 

1141
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,640
Yeah. 
I had to like think about that. 

1142
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,400
I was like, because I remember 
the first one coming out with 

1143
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,840
that really bright red on black 
colorway. 

1144
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Yeah. 
Ultra Mont Block Carbon 2, a 

1145
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,480
little bit more nimble, moderate
stack, kind of like what Klein 

1146
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,680
was alluding to earlier. 
Good traction under foot, but 

1147
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,480
it's not so like dense on the 
lugs that you can still hit 

1148
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,080
shallow and technical terrain 
pretty well. 

1149
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,600
Corner as well. 
Upper holds you good, it's 

1150
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,160
nimble, it's aggressive, it is 
plated, it's a shoe that you 

1151
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,480
can't attack the trails in. 
And if I had to race kind of a 

1152
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,960
shorter distance trail race 
right now, this is probably what

1153
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,040
I'd be reaching for. 
Truth be told, if I was running 

1154
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,280
an ultra trail right now with my
experience and things, I'm 

1155
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,200
probably just rocking the speed 
goat, you know? 

1156
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,760
But for something shorter where 
I want to be going fast and 

1157
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,360
really attacking it, this is 
probably my pick. 

1158
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,640
Ultra Mont Blanc Carbon 2. 
Awesome. 

1159
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,920
Well, there we go. 
There's part one of our favorite

1160
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,880
shoes of 2024. 
We will be circling back for two

1161
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,440
other categories for next week's
episode. 

1162
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,240
And as always, we love to hear 
what y'all's picks are as well 

1163
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,080
because we've kind of moved from
consensus picks to individual 

1164
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,960
picks because that's how we see 
footwear. 

1165
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,480
We don't see it as the best shoe
based on some team's conception 

1166
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,400
of it. 
It's what are our picks, Find 

1167
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,760
out if you match up with us and 
then that could maybe help you 

1168
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,080
find what you need. 
So thanks for following along 

1169
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,440
and.