1 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Hello everyone, and welcome to the Doctors of Running podcast, 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,160 where we, a group of doctors of physical therapy, discuss the 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,680 art and the science of the stuff that we're putting on our feet. 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,600 I'm Andrea Myers, and I'm here today with David Salas to do a 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,000 second edition of our Favorite Shoes of 2024. 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Matt and Nathan recorded theirs last week. 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,680 We couldn't join them for various reasons, so now we're 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,800 here to talk about the shoes that we've loved the most in the 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,680 first half of the year. How are you doing, David? 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,720 What's going on this weekend? Oh, nothing much, just 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,040 recovering. It's been a busy last few weeks. 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,840 All things outside of running, haven't been running as much. 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,840 Just kind of ramping back up from the injury. 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Just trying to get healthy and get some consistent mileage 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,480 under me. So I haven't really been running 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,440 too quick. But yeah, a lot of other things 17 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:02,640 brought on a new hire at work, so doing all that stuff. 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Nice. That's good, all the training 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,400 and whatnot and that's going pretty well so far, but a little 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,600 busy, but doing good, yeah. Excellent. 21 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:14,040 Nice. All right, So today's 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,320 subjective, of course, we're talking about our favorite shoes 23 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,360 of the year. So we want to know what your 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,600 favorite shoes are so far this year. 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,760 So we're covering a few categories. 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Daily trainer, favorite Mac stack shoe, lightweight trainer 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,000 or performance trainer racing shoe. 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,280 And then we're also gonna talk about what our favorite budget 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,520 or sale shoe from 2023 is. So leave us what your favorites 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,680 are in the comments. But then we also have a second 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,760 part to today's subjective David needs a little bit of help from 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,320 your guys. So as you can see, David's got a 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:57,040 new recording location in his place and it needs a little bit 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,240 behind him, even though, you know, behind me isn't very 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,000 fancy. So what should David put back 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,440 there? Leave your suggestions in the 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,600 comments. Yes, help is needed. 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,000 We need to get something on there. 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,000 Crowdsourcing interior decorating through Doctors of 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,240 Running. Love it. 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,720 All right, so let's David, let's start with favorite daily 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,520 trainer and let's hear what your pick is for the first half of 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,160 this year. Yeah. 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,120 So that's a very spicy question because there's been, there's 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,640 been some good ones through the first half of the year so far. 46 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:40,960 And there's been some that I've really liked and yeah, some that 47 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,400 I've kept gravitating to and then one that I put on today 48 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,880 that I think I'm really gonna like. 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:55,080 But traditionally up until this point prior to today, now this 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,280 one, I feel like double dips a little bit. 51 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,400 So I will with some reservation, I will probably say for the the 52 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Max stack shoe for me as well. We can kind of go into that a 53 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,440 little bit later, but the on cloud monster hyper has been a 54 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,760 good shoe for me. I really like the like the inner 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,040 core of that Piba midsole, that Henon HF. 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,120 It's very bouncy, very lively, has a lot of has a decent amount 57 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,960 of softness to it. But then the cloud tack around 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,920 it almost acts like a little J frame in there and it kind of 59 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:24,560 just kind of firms up that structure just a tad to where it 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,040 kind of stabilizes it a little bit and kind of keeps you moving 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,400 linear. I kind of like that there's no 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,440 plate in it, you know, even though like everything on ever 63 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,400 has plates, you know, but it feels nice to not have one and 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,560 kind of have just even though a rigidity, but a little bit of 65 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,320 flexibility when it's loaded. It just works for my mechanics 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,160 and it's a fun shoe to run in and I can kind of eat up miles 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,160 quite a bit. But that is kind of a Max stack 68 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,200 option as well. The other neutral option that 69 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,920 I've been really liking has been the Puma Velocity Nitro Three. 70 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,640 I'm notorious for messing up Puma shoes. 71 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,040 I have no idea why I'm so sorry, Puma, but I got it right. 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,760 I got it right on that. One I had to pause. 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Same thing kind of like that like classic eye drop neutral, 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,360 very just neutral training shoe like nothing overly fancy about 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,680 it, but the Nitro foam has a decent amount of cushioning to 76 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,279 it. Traction under foot's pretty 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,880 good. It's a little bit narrow, like 78 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,800 definitely of a neutral mechanic type shoe, but it works with my 79 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,600 mechanics. I can eat up miles on it all 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,160 day. But the other one that I really 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,600 like and I really liked the previous version of this shoe. 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,520 So I'm I'm happy that I continue to really like this shoe. 83 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Is the new NUSA the A6 NUSA? Tri 16 I just called that in 84 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,400 this. Morning. 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Yeah, it was so nice. So I don't, I don't know, this 86 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,800 might end up becoming kind of like a daily trainer workout 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,400 shoe for me, you know, in the future. 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,800 I was just breaking it in today, but I really liked it. 89 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,080 It was just a little bit softer than the previous version, had a 90 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,320 little bit more bounce, but that's not a problem at all 91 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,320 because the other one was already pretty good. 92 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,520 So it was already pretty firm. So like softening it a little 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,760 bit doesn't really make it that soft per SE. 94 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,400 You know, it keeps a lot of that DNA in there. 95 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,440 So I really liked it. But I'd say those are probably 96 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,520 like my daily trainers right now on a first Inkling that would 97 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,560 have just bumped off the Saucony Ride 17 there. 98 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:17,920 As much as it pains me, I did like that shoe a lot. 99 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,560 But I think those shoes do slide a little bit in front of it. 100 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:23,200 Yeah, yeah, the Ride 17 is a nice year too. 101 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,080 I was considering it for my pick for this, but my pick is 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,240 actually a shoe that came out in December 2023, but Bach was nice 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,520 enough to let me still choose it today. 104 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,120 So that's the A6 Nova Blast 4. This was a December release. 105 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,840 I had to go back and look, yeah. Yeah. 106 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Our round UPS, we're like, do we put this on 2020? 107 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,880 Do we put it on 2024? Yeah, yeah. 108 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,600 Sorry, so I got Bach approved to choose it for this episode. 109 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,320 So this is by far the best fitting ASICS shoe I've ever 110 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,920 tested and I've been running an ASICS like since age 5. 111 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,800 I love this shoe for easy miles. It fits so nicely. 112 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,440 It has this really nice midfoot wrap. 113 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,680 It's hard to show on the video but the tongue is really nicely 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,880 integrated with the upper. It just you put your foot in, 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,320 lace it up and go. The cushioning is I hate really 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,280 soft shoes. I don't like shoes that feel 117 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,920 like marshmallows and this shoe has plenty of cushion but it's 118 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,760 not overly soft. It's comfortable for me for 119 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,040 midfoot landings. The only time I really notice 120 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,320 the huge heel bevel it or the huge posterior sole flare it has 121 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,960 is if I'm running like super slow. 122 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:41,440 But if I'm running like normal easy pace I don't notice the 123 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,840 heel at all. But it's relatively lightweight. 124 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,080 I'm trying let me look and see what the it's. 125 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Pretty light. Yeah, and 7.9 oz for women's 126 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,640 size 8. So that's pretty good for a shoe 127 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,400 with a stack of 40.5 in the heel, 32 five and the four foot 128 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,920 for women. Men is 1mm taller in both 129 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,440 places. But yeah, pretty lightweight for 130 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,320 what really could be considered a Max small stack height shoe. 131 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 So another thing I really like about it is they really did a 132 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,440 good job with the Ahar rub her outsole, really good traction on 133 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,680 the wet roads, which that hasn't always been the case with ASICS 134 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,160 shoes. So yeah, this is out of all the 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:28,200 2024 and late 2023 daily trainers, this is definitely my 136 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,960 pick. I've got a bunch of miles on it. 137 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Definitely keep running in it. So I the Ride 17 would probably 138 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,640 be my runner up shoe. The shoe I really wanted to 139 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,600 choose for this, but we're going to talk about shortly is the 140 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Mizuno Rebellion Flash too. I actually do easy miles in the 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,920 shoe too, but we'll save that for shortly. 142 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's move on to our favorite 143 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,080 Max stack shoe of 2024. So I know you mentioned the 144 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Cloud Monster Hyper. Is that your number one pick or 145 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,480 do you have another one that you like better? 146 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,440 That would be my number one pick. 147 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Yeah. So it's kind of like how you 148 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,040 were saying with the Nova Blast where it's kind of like this in 149 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,080 between where it's like it's it's it's Max stack, but it's 150 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,240 not like 45. Well, right. 151 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Like it's not like it's super high up, but it's still pretty 152 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,160 high up. I forgot. 153 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,600 What was the stack out on that in the heel? 154 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,160 Was it 404342? I've. 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Got it. Here. 156 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,480 It's 40 in the heel, 34 in the four foot. 157 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Yeah, OK. Yeah, and. 158 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,200 Another lightweight shoe, it's 9.3 oz for men's size, 97.5 for 159 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,520 women's size 8. You know, it's really nice 160 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:46,040 having several Max stack options that aren't, you know, bricks on 161 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,680 your feet like that you can pick up the pace in. 162 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,840 Yeah, so the Cloud Monster Hyper definitely was probably number 163 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,720 one. Another one, there might be a 164 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,480 little bit of recency bias, but I do like it. 165 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,320 It is the ASICS magic speed for I don't have it in hand right 166 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,200 here. It's just outside the door, 167 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,840 unfortunately. But that one's nice too, because 168 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,360 it's like with that one's 41 in the heel, I think. 169 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,040 And that one, it has flight from Turbo still kind of has that 170 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,800 firm, bouncy feel to it, pretty rounded forefoot, like you can 171 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,360 kind of fall into rhythm pretty easily, especially once the pace 172 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,640 starts picking up. And I could definitely see that 173 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,880 being like a long run monster where you're just trying to log 174 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:30,440 in like marathon type workouts. So that one's great if I'm like 175 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,520 slugging around and just like easy peasy, just shuffling the 176 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Hoka skyward XI do like that shoe. 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,120 I know that one's kind of polarizing amongst the group, 178 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,520 but the side walls don't seem to be too intrusive for me. 179 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,320 I feel them, but they're they don't like cause any irritation 180 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,600 or anything and just kind of like your classic, just soft, 181 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,640 bouncy, compliant high stack shoe, you know, like rocker 182 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,200 plated has a very familiar feel to it. 183 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,840 It's definitely the softest Hoka I've ever run in, at least 184 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,560 subjectively from what I felt. So if there is anyone out there 185 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:08,680 listening that's like, hey, I want something just super soft, 186 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:11,040 high stack, stiff rocker shoe like that. 187 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Is that so? Yeah, I liked the Skyward too 188 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,760 and I off most Hokas the side walls bother me, but the skyward 189 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,520 I was aware of them, but it wasn't, you know, like the mock 190 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,080 or the ring cone where like I get blisters from the side 191 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,240 walls. So I definitely liked Skyward 192 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:28,960 X2. It is. 193 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,880 I would agree it's definitely a soft shoe. 194 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,880 I would say it's probably number well less than #3 for me for top 195 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Mac stack shoes. So my runner up is actually 196 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,680 cloud monster hyper. But my hands down favorite Mac 197 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,280 stack shoe is I know what it is the Neo Vista. 198 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,760 I can't believe that I it's crazy. 199 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,120 If you would ask me like at this time last year, if I would 200 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,760 choose three Mizuno shoes is my favorite. 201 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,040 You know, I would have said no, but Mizuno has just like hit it 202 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,080 out of the park this year and this shoe is amazing. 203 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,960 I have used it for like slog recovery runs. 204 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,720 I've used it for like medium long runs, just regular easy 205 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,200 runs and it can handle everything. 206 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,680 What I'm particularly impressed about is you can see it's got 207 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:24,000 this huge cut out in the sole and it really let like the 208 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,800 medial and lateral side of the shoe adapt to the terrain. 209 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,720 One of my runs I did in this year, it was like a point to 210 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,360 point. I think it was 12 miles, but it 211 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,520 was on really crowned roads. And I was like, I'm going to do 212 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,680 this and if this shoe was going to suck on crowned roads, I'm 213 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:43,080 going to know by the end. But my feet were so comfortable, 214 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,480 like I could have kept going, you know, to 20 miles and been 215 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,200 fine. So that run really confirmed 216 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,080 like this shoe because a lot of Max stack shoes are just good at 217 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,840 running easy and that's great. But to have a Max stack shoe 218 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,000 that you can pick up the pace a little bit in. 219 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,240 It's not heavy, you know, it's not clunky. 220 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,880 This this shoe is like head and shoulders beyond any Max stack 221 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,320 shoe I've tested. I loved the SC trainer one but I 222 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,560 could only run like super easy in it because it was so heavy. 223 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,920 It was a good Oz, wasn't it? It was, well, men's size 9. 224 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,000 Yeah, I think so. Yeah. 225 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:26,640 The Neo Vista, it's 9.4 oz for men's 9 and 7.8 for women's 226 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:32,000 eight with a 44 1/2 millimeter stack in the heel and 36 1/2 in 227 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,360 the forefoot. So it have that much foam and it 228 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:41,720 to be that lightweight and it to perform that well at super easy, 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,400 easy, you know, up up tempo paces be able to run with it on 230 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,040 crowned roads. I I think every run I did in 231 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,720 this year, the roads were either wet or it was raining. 232 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,640 No issues with traction and this year's $180, which compared to 233 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,120 many other, you know, super trainers, it's a very good 234 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,080 value. So without question my top next 235 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,080 stack daily trainer. But I definitely agree with you 236 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,920 that the cloud monster hyper is another awesome Max stack shoe. 237 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,920 For me this like as you called it, the J frame or like the 238 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,840 orange cloud tech frame around the softer PBA midsole. 239 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,280 You can see that it's asymmetrical like it, it doesn't 240 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,360 extend as far forward on the lateral side as it does on the 241 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,800 medial side. And for me, because I land 242 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,800 basically here, it makes it really comfortable to land here. 243 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,480 But then having a little bit stiffer here actually made it 244 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,520 feel like it provided a little bit of guidance and to push off 245 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,680 for me. So I thought that was a really 246 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:54,680 interesting use of like, you know, non traditional stability 247 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:58,600 method to provide guidance, especially for someone who lands 248 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,760 further forward like me. I love the soft heba midsole 249 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,640 they particularly in the mid foot and forefoot. 250 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:11,600 It just it feels amazing. I wouldn't use this shoe for 251 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,680 like a faster run. I took it on I can't remember 252 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:18,520 how long it was maybe 10 or 12 miles like minutes slower than 253 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,960 marathon pace and it just felt a little clunky to me. 254 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,960 Even though it's not a heavy shoe. 255 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,320 It weighs pretty much the same as the Neo Vista, but it just I 256 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,160 think because the heel is so stiff that affected how it 257 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,880 performs at faster paces for me. So it's for me. 258 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,560 This is definitely an easy run shoe, but really well designed, 259 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,440 really comfortable upper so on did a really good job with this 260 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,400 one. Yeah, they took a lot of 261 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,080 inspiration off of the Cloud Boom E3 too, which I know you 262 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:53,840 liked a. Lot. 263 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I finally got to race in the 264 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,200 cloud. I know Cloud Boom E3 isn't a 265 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,160 2024 shoe, but I've done a few races in it finally this year, a 266 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,160 mile road race and a 5K, and that has definitely confirmed 267 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,480 what I thought initially. But it's definitely shorter race 268 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,960 shoe for me. But really nice, nice running 269 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,280 shoe. Yeah. 270 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,080 OK. So next category is favorite 271 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,880 lightweight trainer or performance trainer. 272 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,200 So what is your? What are are your picks, David? 273 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,720 Yeah, so this one might end up changing too, but for right now 274 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,320 I have a second pair of it. So if it looks like it is 275 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,760 perfectly clean and unused, it's 'cause it's perfectly clean and 276 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,080 unused. But I assure you I have plenty 277 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,280 of miles on my other pair. But it's the Saucony Endorphin 278 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,160 speed for lightweight. It has decent flexibility even 279 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,400 though it's plated, you know, So that's a little bit of rigidity, 280 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,160 still kind of snappy. I like the traction under foot 281 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,080 that they swish, that lattice design. 282 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,560 I feel like I can kind of go a little. 283 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,280 I can go slow, I can go fast, I can go long, you know? 284 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,240 And it doesn't feel overly soft in any way. 285 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,600 Like it does feel softer than the previous models to me 286 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,720 though, like the way the heel is, it's a little bit clunky at 287 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,880 first on break in, but then once it breaks in, like after a 288 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,480 couple miles, I noticed that it that kind of went away in the 289 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,360 heel there. But yeah, it's good. 290 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,800 It's just kind of a lightweight neutral performance trainer and 291 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,320 it has a decent amount of cushioning. 292 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,560 It has a little bit of flexibility upfront, but a 293 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,520 really grippy forefoot. So it really lets you kind of 294 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,680 power off of that forefoot. And so I've been able to take it 295 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,280 on hard track workouts too, and then also do long tempo runs and 296 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,280 long runs and easy efforts and warm ups, cooldowns. 297 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,080 It's kind of like that versatile Swiss army knife that you can 298 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,080 pretty much do anything in. So I'm really liking the 299 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,000 Endorphin Speed 4. The other one that came to mind, 300 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,680 which I did talk about a little bit earlier, Venusa comes back. 301 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,480 So it's one of those things like that was, if I remember 302 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,760 correctly, I think that was my lightweight trainer. 303 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,319 The on the previous model when it had came out, it was either 304 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:13,680 that or runner up, I couldn't remember, but it was definitely 305 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,280 in the conversation and that it's just a fun shoe. 306 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,760 It's just lightweight, it's nimble. 307 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,880 There's no plate or anything. There's no shenanigans. 308 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,640 You know, there's this little bit of a toast spring. 309 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,079 You're kind of rolling forward and you kind of like want to 310 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:26,760 keep eating the ground. This is kind of the way it 311 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,680 feels. So it's a very lively shoe in 312 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,600 that regard. So only time will tell on that 313 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840 one. You know, that one is also 314 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,360 really lightweight. I mean it's pretty responsive. 315 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:40,080 I wouldn't say it's as responsive as the Endorphins 316 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speed 4:00, but you can still do quite a bit in it. 317 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,480 It might be a little less cushioned. 318 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,680 Like if you're going to go like 20 miles, Endorphins speed 4 319 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,160 probably would win, but I just haven't done enough work in the 320 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,520 Noosa yet to give it a full, you know, review synopsis, give it a 321 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,600 pick. But that's definitely going to 322 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,440 be on my feet for some time. Like, you know, when you put 323 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,760 something on, you're like, oh, I like this. 324 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Yeah, yeah, I just got the Nursa and the magic speed for 325 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,480 yesterday and yeah, I would agree. 326 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,120 Just walking around the house and the Nursa, it's like, yeah, 327 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:14,480 I'm going to like this shoe it kind of, and I haven't run in 328 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,520 it, so of course walking around is not the same, but it gives me 329 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,760 a little bit of Cyclone 2 vibes in like a little bit. 330 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,320 It's a little lower to the ground. 331 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,120 I don't know what the stack is and it just feels like it's 332 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:29,520 maybe a little more flexible like the cyclone too. 333 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Did you I know in the previous Noosa? 334 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,720 I've never run in the Noosa this is. 335 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:34,720 Gotcha. OK. 336 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,880 The heel in this one's a little softer. 337 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,240 So the previous one was like a pretty firm Eva kind of feel to 338 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,680 it. And then it was kind of like a 339 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,200 sharper rocker up front. So this one I noticed almost 340 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,480 immediately, it's still a structured. 341 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,920 So those listening that are Noosa fans because they there 342 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,720 are Noosa fans for sure. The heel has just a little bit 343 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,240 more compression to it. And I think it kind of gives 344 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,560 those Cyclone esque vibes because of that. 345 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,720 It just has a little bit more give in that foam like that used 346 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,240 to be a pretty hard foam. And but yeah, you're right. 347 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,320 There's a decent amount of flexibility up front and good 348 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,560 traction. It's it's just lightweight, nice 349 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,440 little side walls. Yeah, I mean, I I could totally 350 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,880 see the cyclone comparison. It's not quite a Peba based 351 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,240 midsole. It's not quite as light and 352 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,960 flexible, you know, like as little around as a Cyclone, but 353 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,360 it definitely has similar feelings reminiscent of that. 354 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:32,400 I could see that. And you did your run in that too 355 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,240 on trails today, right? Both, yeah. 356 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Yeah, in the new SO, yeah. Yeah. 357 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,080 So it's also your trail share of the year. 358 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Definitely. There were some trails, yeah, I 359 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,200 almost ate it on one of them, but. 360 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,840 But the noose has saved you but. The noose has saved me. 361 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,920 Yeah, Oh. Man. 362 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,680 My pick for this is no surprise one, because I mentioned it 363 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,480 already, but two, it's them, as you know, Wave Rebellion Flash 364 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,400 too. I've got over 150 miles on this 365 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:13,040 shoe and I think I got it in January maybe This shoe I can do 366 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,520 easy runs in, I can do workouts in it. 367 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,400 You can see I've like completely ruined the upper because we've 368 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,560 gotten so much rain, but it's in great shape. 369 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,960 I mean, it's dirty the outsole. You can see a little where like 370 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,240 where I land but. Looks good. 371 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,520 Yeah, it looks good. I think I'm going to get a ton 372 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,520 of miles on this shoe. So what I love about the 373 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,240 Rebellion Flash shoe and the Rebellion Pro 2 is the really 374 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,200 extreme heel bevel. And of course it's less extreme 375 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,160 in the flash two than it is in the Pro two. 376 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,080 It just feels like this year was designed for where I land. 377 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,240 So I land at my lateral midfoot. It's so comfortable, it feels so 378 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,280 natural. Of course, the heel doesn't get 379 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,040 in the way because it's not there. 380 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:05,760 We had a really great podcast with the Mizuno design team a 381 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,800 couple weeks ago. Check that out on podcast and 382 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,320 YouTube. But they told us what the foot 383 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,680 angle is for each of their shoes. 384 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,880 So the Flash two and the Neo Vista, the angle of the foot in 385 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:27,640 the shoe is 5° and in the Rebellion Pro two it's 11°. 386 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,600 And they said they came to those numbers based on research they 387 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,800 did at many various angles. I think it ranged from like 3° 388 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:43,000 to 15° if I remember correctly. And they found that for like mid 389 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,120 pace workouts or like, you know, up tempo runs, people preferred 390 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:51,040 the five degree angle of the Flash too. 391 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,760 So that's why they gave it and the Neo Vista the five degree 392 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,320 foot angle. But then for racing, they felt 393 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,680 when you're running faster, they found that people prefer the 11° 394 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,360 angle. And the Wave Rebellion Pro two, 395 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,760 they did also tell us, just in case anyone's wondering and 396 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,120 hasn't listened to that podcast, Wave Rebellion Pro One had a six 397 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,800 degree foot angle. So there is. 398 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520 And you know, if you've run both shoes, you can definitely feel 399 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,720 the difference just in the shoe geometry. 400 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:30,680 But there's a huge difference in feel between pro one and pro 401 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,880 two. I would definitely say that pro 402 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,280 one feels more like flash two than it does Pro 2. 403 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,560 And that makes sense now knowing that the foot angle of pro one 404 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,760 is 6° and flash two is five degrees. 405 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,120 So I mean, I just, I can't, I love running in the shoe. 406 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:54,360 Like I know no matter like how crappy my legs feel, how tired I 407 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,680 am, like it's just going to work. 408 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:02,160 And I can use it for like easy runs where I have like some 409 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,640 pickups in the middle strides. Like I don't like using it for 410 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,320 really fast-paced workouts. Like I've been doing a lot of 411 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,000 like 5K and mild pace intervals and I'm obviously not using it 412 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,960 for that. But if I'm doing like 10K or 413 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000 slower intervals, this shoe is great. 414 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,120 But again, it just it does it all and that's what a 415 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,640 performance trainer is supposed to do. 416 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,960 Let me pull up the specs just in case people are wondering. 8.5 417 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,800 oz for men's size 9. I don't have it for the women's, 418 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,960 but it's 35mm in the heel, 34.5 in the forefoot. 419 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,600 Those drop numbers are not really good because, you know, 420 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,640 they're measuring it here. So this this shoe feels to me, 421 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,680 you know, more like a the way like a four or 6mm drop shoe 422 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,440 would feel. The shoe is not like ultra 423 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,840 feeling for sure. So with the Flash 2 on the Pro 424 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,120 2, ignore the drop numbers because they really don't 425 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,560 reflect the way the shoe runs for sure. 426 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,160 Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'd say it feels like a four to 427 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,640 six. Yeah, traction in the shoe is 428 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,560 great. They put this really nice rubber 429 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,280 outsole on it. I've as you can see, I've done a 430 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,960 lot of running in the rain in it and it's just I have 0 431 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,680 complaints about the shoe. I will say I go up a half size 432 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:28,480 in all in the pro in the flash and the neo Vista. 433 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,560 So others may need to do the same. 434 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,080 So let's see. So let's move on to favorite 435 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,320 racing shoe. So what races have you done? 436 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,360 I know you have done a few track races this year, right David, 437 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,440 have you done any? You did some Rd. races at the 438 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,200 beginning of the year. Yeah, I have to think about it. 439 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,000 So let me think. So did I do any road races this 440 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,520 year? I don't know if I did. 441 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,520 I don't know. I came off of CIM in December. 442 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,720 Oh, right. And then I don't know if I raced 443 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,640 again until track. I got sick a bunch. 444 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,920 I got like sick like two or three times. 445 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,640 Yeah, that and then track season was a little bit of a bust for 446 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,200 me, so it's been a rough 2024. So far. 447 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:25,840 But I did race I ran in the E6 meta speed edge Paris for a 448 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,160 track 5K and that was good. I liked it. 449 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,120 I I did feel like the in a track 5K. 450 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:39,120 Have you run a track 5K? Yes, but like four years ago, I 451 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,880 don't even remember what shoe I wore. 452 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:46,280 I probably wore the Saucony Endorphin Pro one, Yeah. 453 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,120 Because like with track five KS, I feel like they're so different 454 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:54,280 from Road 5 KS and that everyone's so tight together the 455 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,760 whole time. And there's a lot of kind of 456 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,800 like jostling and like contact and like little surges and kind 457 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,200 of stops and like the flow is never like perfectly locked in. 458 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,920 And I will say the change of pace kind of wore on me a little 459 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,440 bit where the shoe likes to be in rhythm. 460 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,160 And when the rhythm keeps getting disrupted, you're kind 461 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,800 of trying to find the rhythm. But when there's no one around 462 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,880 you that it was good. I liked it. 463 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,840 It was responsive, lightweight. You know, it could definitely 464 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,560 run a 5K in it. My performance that day wasn't 465 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,120 the greatest, but that wasn't the shoe's fault. 466 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:29,840 That was me. Don't blame the shoe 467 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,480 unnecessarily. I got to the last mile feeling 468 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,040 about as fresh as those legs could feel, you know, given the 469 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 circumstances of my own fitness. Right. 470 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,640 Also even the fittest you know freshest individual shouldn't 471 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,280 feel fresh in the last mile of A5 case. 472 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,040 That's true too. That is true, yeah. 473 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,320 And then the what? The next 5 Ki spiked up and 474 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,400 that's kind of when my foot and my heel were already giving me 475 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,880 some problems leading up into that. 476 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,560 I should have never spiked up to begin with, honestly, probably 477 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,120 shouldn't have done the race. You know, that was my call. 478 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,600 And yeah, I'm, I'm living at the repercussions of that decision. 479 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,840 Now, if I wore the flats, I might have been able to turn it 480 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,120 around quicker. I don't know. 481 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,280 Hard to say. But yeah, the spikes really, 482 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,720 really upset that heel. But yeah, I think those are my 483 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,360 only two races. I don't think I've raced any 484 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,840 other time this year, which is wild because I usually do race a 485 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,760 few times by now. Right. 486 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,160 Yeah. So it'll be kind of a quiet year 487 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,000 for 2024 racing wise, but we'll try and get a good half marathon 488 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,840 in the fall. I think that's going to be kind 489 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,640 of the main focus of the year. But yeah, I'm trying to think 490 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,920 like last year, what did I race in since I raced more last year, 491 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,280 I did the Nike Vaporfly Next Percent 3 for half a four mile 492 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,720 time trial for the full. I wore the Saucony Endorphin 493 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,480 Elite twice because I did the Ventura Marathon in February and 494 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,640 then the CIM in Sacramento, both Endorphin Elites. 495 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,520 For those that if you're new to the show, I like the talking 496 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Indorphin Elite. That's just for like the long 497 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,960 road racing type type races that that has kind of been my go to. 498 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,040 But there are some shoes that are knocking on that doorstep 499 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,600 right now. So I have some hard decisions, 500 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,520 you know, to make when I do race again at those distances and 501 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,400 it's not quite as clear cut anymore for me. 502 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,640 So which ones are competing with the Indorphin Elite for you? 503 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Yeah. And that's where we kind of 504 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,840 segue into 2024, right? So I would say right now, 505 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,160 anything 10K below it is really hard to beat the ASICS meta 506 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,680 speed Edge Paris. There's a reason why I chose to 507 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,920 wear it on that track 5K, you know, where it's like it felt 508 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,680 like I could do it and you could. 509 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,760 There's no reason why you can't. I think it was my own. 510 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,240 Like I also hadn't been on the track in a while in a couple of 511 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,080 years. So I think my own, like just 512 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,320 getting back into it, like the rhythm of 5K racing on the 513 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,280 track. But yeah, that's you. 514 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,960 Super responsive, super lightweight. 515 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,600 It's under 7 oz. It's like I want to say it's 6.6 516 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,880 or 6.7 oz men's size 9. It's like just a little bit 517 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,320 lighter than the vapor Fly. Yeah. 518 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,000 Yeah, that's super light. Yeah, and then it can totally go 519 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,640 half marathon, marathon. I'm I'm debating on wearing that 520 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040 for that distance. I know some people think it's 521 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,440 not like quite supportive enough or like it might just be a 522 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,880 little aggressive for that. I know like Klein loves the 523 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,520 shoe, but he doesn't he personally wouldn't take it 524 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,960 marathon. I know he has said several 525 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,920 times, but the other one that comes up for me is the Nike 526 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,480 Alpha Fly Next Percent three. I Alpha fly one was a hit for me 527 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,440 and then Alpha Fly 2 not so much but they brought it back and 528 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,360 super responsive, lightweight. They got it down right around 529 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,840 that 7.0 oz range if I'm correct for men's size 9. 530 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200 And traction's pretty good on the forefoot. 531 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,400 It's a little slippy through the mid foot and the heel depending 532 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,080 on what you're running on, but it just has this like super 533 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,360 lively, just 4 foot balance when you like really like lean into 534 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,120 that shoe and like even at marathon paces, like once you 535 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,520 kind of get your stride going and you're like up on there it 536 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,280 it's lively and it just kind of keeps you going. 537 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,560 And I do feel like them filling in the mid sole and then kind of 538 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,600 giving it the deep midline groove and kind of changing up 539 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,360 that design slightly did make it a little bit more stable on the 540 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,280 platform too. And a little bit less harsh on 541 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,480 the inside arch 'cause that was an area that I'd get some 542 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,360 irritation on on the Alpha fly one and two. 543 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,880 So I think they cleaned up enough things to really make 544 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,360 that thing a killer. And obviously, like the Nike 545 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640 athletes have been running well in it that have chosen to run in 546 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440 it. But granted, Nike kind of has 547 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,000 the most money and they they get the best athletes anyways for 548 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760 the best part. So hard to say that that's the 549 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,320 shoe. You know, it's like when you 550 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,480 look at all the Nike and Adidas podiums, it's like, well, 551 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,320 they're all amazing freaking athletes. 552 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,760 Right they're. Going to podium and anything and 553 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280 then it's like you put Mikayla and Anta and then it's like 554 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480 Mikayla still goes and runs two O 4 right. 555 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,280 So it's like not that the Anta is a bad product. 556 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480 I really like the Anta of super shoe as well. 557 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,920 But like, they're just, they're amazing world class athletes and 558 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,480 they're going to be amazing world class athletes regardless 559 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,240 of whatever is on their foot. Of course, yeah, yeah. 560 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,520 The major thing for them is finding something that's 561 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,440 comfortable and works with their mechanics. 562 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,760 But as long as it does, there's probably several shoes they 563 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,080 could run, you know, sub 205 for the guys or sub 220 for the 564 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,800 women. Sub 215 now. 565 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,640 And. Sub 212. 566 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,960 Seriously. Sub 210 soon. 567 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,440 It's crazy, like it's so. It's awesome to see though. 568 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,360 It is. It's so exciting and I think 569 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,560 it's interesting to see several mid distance runners, but 570 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,640 particularly women step up to the marathon distance and run so 571 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,560 fast. And it would be really 572 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,840 interesting to have like a bio mechanist on to talk about like 573 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,240 why super shoes might help a mid distance runner run so fast in 574 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,800 the marathon. Whereas if they were using, you 575 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,360 know, shoes from 15 or 20 years ago, they might not have given 576 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,040 the same benefit. Yeah, that, and I'll just go on 577 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,520 the air. Women are tougher than men. 578 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:35,360 So you take someone that has leg speed and they go and put it to 579 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120 the pavement for a while. Like, man. 580 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,400 Yeah, there's just some of the most grittiest racers. 581 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,840 Like watching like Stefan Hassan in London was like, oh. 582 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,480 My gosh, she is amazing. What a race. 583 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,760 I just love the post race interview on that. 584 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,960 It's like so wholesome and it's like, I love that. 585 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 It's like become a meme, but at the same time it's just like 586 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,120 it's amazing. If you haven't seen the post 587 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120 interview Race of London Marathon with Stefan Asan, 588 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,640 please go look it. Up Yeah, she basically, she says 589 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,200 that she, first of all, she won after stopping to stretch two or 590 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,400 three times and then chasing back onto the lead pack. 591 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,280 And then she wins the London Marathon in a Sprint and it's 592 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,520 her first marathon. And in the post race interview, 593 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,480 she basically says, I can't believe I finished a marathon. 594 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,320 And she's talking about how like, when she was training for 595 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,960 it, that she would, you know, doubt herself and say, why did I 596 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,880 decide to do this? Why do I want to run a marathon? 597 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,560 And, you know, like those of us mortals who also run marathons 598 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,680 and have had the same thoughts, like, Oh, well, you know, one of 599 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,560 the fastest runners in the world and the most accomplished at 600 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,160 like, every distance has the same thoughts that I do, you 601 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,360 know? Yeah, that was when she was 602 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,280 like, I was crying this morning. I never cried. 603 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,199 Oh, such a wholesome interview. Yeah, she's amazing. 604 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,719 I can't wait to hear what races she decides to do with the 605 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,080 Olympics. Like how many? 606 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,199 People, any event can medal like maybe not the eight, I don't 607 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:18,520 know. I don't know what her 800 speed. 608 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,239 Right. Yeah. 609 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:25,120 But she might though I mean like she's she's run what 354 ish 610 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,040 for? 15. 611 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,840 Think so. Maybe faster, maybe, maybe 350. 612 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,840 Faith Kippy Egon went three, 4347 right? 613 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,920 Three or. Was it 349? 614 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,719 No, maybe it was 349 still sub 350 So but I I think Stefan ran 615 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,760 like 351 or two. I don't know she'll. 616 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,960 Do that in 2028, yeah. Maybe she can medal at the 800, 617 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,199 I don't know. Yeah, medal of the 800 to 618 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,320 marathons. How many athletes can just, 619 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,000 like, pick, you know, two months out from the Olympics, what 620 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,760 events they're going to do? Not really many, yeah. 621 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,240 I will say though, that woman's 800 right now is spicy. 622 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Now that I'm thinking about it between like, I mean, we haven't 623 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,120 really seen a thing MO run yet, but a thing MO, Keeley 624 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,680 Hodgkinson is looking phenomenal right now. 625 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,560 She's around 155 twice I think. And then you have Gemma, Ricky, 626 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,040 also from the UK. You've got a couple other 627 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,040 athletes that can really throw down. 628 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,080 Like, that's going to be an interesting 800 final four. 629 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,280 Oh, yeah, yeah. It'll be interesting to see what 630 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,800 Mary Mora does. She was the one who won worlds 631 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,160 last year. Yeah, yeah, it's women's race. 632 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,080 I mean, men's racing is exciting too, but women's racing is 633 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,160 really exciting right now. There's just, you know, some 634 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,120 crazy stuff happening, but. Yeah. 635 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,840 What are your picks? Oh yeah, we've segwayed so far. 636 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,320 We're just like, yeah, we got to give the people what they want. 637 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:58,520 Yeah, so racing in 2024 for me, my top pick would be the 638 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,240 Rebellion. Wrong one, same color, this 639 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,560 one's less dirty. Rebellion pro two, Wave 640 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,480 rebellion pro two. I was going to race it in Osaka. 641 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,160 I got COVID 2 weeks before Osaka so I didn't go so that sucked. 642 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,240 But if I my next marathon is going to be in this year. 643 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,880 Like no shoe has felt as good at marathon pace as the shoe does 644 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,040 for me. So I'm not running a marathon 645 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,720 this year. I'm focusing on shorter 646 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,840 distances. But Rebellion Pro 2 is just it, 647 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,680 like I said with the flash, it just feels like it was designed 648 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,080 for the way I land. That 11° foot angle feels like 649 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,360 perfect for marathon to half marathon pace for me. 650 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,760 I go up a half size for length, but they really did a good job 651 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,120 winding the toe box in version two. 652 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,600 I found version one to be definitely narrower in the toe 653 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,720 box than this one, so definitely improved fit. 654 00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,960 They thinned out the heel counter inversion 2 and I was a 655 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,040 little worried initially that that would bother me but I had 656 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,880 zero issues with the heel. So just really easy to lock 657 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,560 down. Super lightweight on foot. 658 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Similarly. I mean this shoe has the best 659 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,400 traction out of any racing shoe I've ever worn. 660 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,880 Like it just you can feel it like biting into the ground. 661 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,040 It give it reminds me of a similar. 662 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,560 It is, yeah. Like it feels like having like a 663 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,240 gravel tire on my bike where like it bites into the ground. 664 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,680 Whereas like so many other shoes, like you're just looking 665 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,680 for the shoe to not slip, but this shoe actually feels like it 666 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,480 grabs the ground a little bit. Like you can actually feel that 667 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160 pretty significantly like when turning. 668 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:53,080 I didn't find the shoe to be particularly unstable like 669 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,320 during U turns. I know other people do. 670 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,400 But yeah, I've had a little bit of a hard time with like steeper 671 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,320 turns, yeah, where I've kind of had a tiptoe a little bit. 672 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,920 But I love the shoe. Yeah, it's super fun. 673 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,560 Oh yeah, yeah. So next marathon will definitely 674 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,560 be in these or version 3 whenever they're coming out. 675 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560 With that, we'll see. Mizuno told us. 676 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,800 They've got some really exciting stuff for 2025 S looking forward 677 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,560 to that. So this would definitely be my 678 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,840 number one race shoe of this year if I had gotten to race in 679 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,200 it. So she would that I actually 680 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:32,840 raced in this year was the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4I. 681 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,720 I've raced in every version of the Endorphin Pro. 682 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,920 The Endorphin Pro one was my first super shoe which I loved. 683 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,960 I've raced 1 marathon in the Endorphin Pro 3. 684 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,040 Really liked it for that. Although all of the previous 685 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,560 versions like you mentioned just didn't have that grade of rubber 686 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,040 outsole and they've done a much better job with traction in 687 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,160 version four. Again, we've had so much rain. 688 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,800 I've done a lot of wet running in this shoe and I haven't had 689 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,040 any traction issues in Endorphin Pro 4. 690 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,520 So Endorphin Pro 4 for me is very different than the 691 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,040 Endorphin Pro 3 and Pro 3 was much softer. 692 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,440 Super comfortable. I could use Pro 3 for any 693 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,720 distance. I think I used it. 694 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,800 I know I used it in a 10 mile race. 695 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,040 I don't know if I used it in anything shorter but used it in 696 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,480 a marathon. But pro 4 for me it's so firm 697 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,480 and so responsive that I like it for fast short races. 698 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,720 So I used it in a 5K in April. I was only like I think I had 699 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,800 less than two months of training in after having COVID and like 700 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:52,480 taking a month off and I was like 5 seconds off my 5 KPR. 701 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,640 So. I was happy with that. 702 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:02,280 Yeah, not bad, right? And it I had 0 complaints about 703 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,640 the shoe. It's comfortable, it fits really 704 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:12,040 nicely, it fits long. I've always gone up a half size 705 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,880 in the Endorphin line, both the speed and the probe. 706 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,560 And you know, Socony always just sends me 1/2 size up. 707 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,480 When I got the half size up of the four, I was like, Oh no, I 708 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,800 think I actually need my regular size, but they didn't have it at 709 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,040 first. So I was like all right, I'll 710 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,640 just try running in this. And it actually felt perfect. 711 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,480 Like it felt like the added length actually made the shoe 712 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,160 line up with my first MTP better. 713 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,240 I have short toes, so like a lot of rockers just don't line up 714 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,160 with my forefoot because of that. 715 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,840 But this shoe it there. Oh, sorry. 716 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,720 Peanut almost fell off the bed there. 717 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,960 She's OK everyone, don't worry. Peanut is OK, all right. 718 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:02,480 Yeah, Peanut is OK. So I think for me, I probably 719 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,280 wouldn't use this shoe in anything longer than like a 10K. 720 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,560 Although I'm doing the BIC 7 next month to seven mile race 721 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,440 and it's really hilly. I might use this in that race. 722 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,880 I don't know. Thinking about it, it's pretty 723 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,600 lightweight. I think the women's is. 724 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,240 Let me pull it up. Women's is 6.5 oz for a woman, 725 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:24,880 Satan. So, I mean, we're not talking 726 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,240 like Vapor Fly Light, but that's still pretty lightweight for 727 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,240 racing shoe. Men's is 7.7 oz. 728 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:39,600 Yeah, but for short races, this is my definite top pick of 2024. 729 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,320 The other shoe I've been racing in, because I've done a couple 730 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,520 of Rd. miles as well as a couple other 5K's is the Cloud Monster. 731 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,320 Not Cloud Monster on Cloud Boom E3. 732 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,400 We've talked about the Cloud Monster Hyper so much it's on my 733 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,440 mind. It's like they're going. 734 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,160 To be selling out of cloud monsters here. 735 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,720 That's right, yeah. It'd be like, oh, it's A5 racing 736 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:00,520 shoes. Yeah. 737 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,200 No, do not use the Cloud Monster Hyper for A5 Ki. 738 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,960 Do not recommend that. The Cloud Boom E3 I've used for 739 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:20,360 a road mile, 2 road miles and a 5K15K25K's. 740 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:26,560 Yeah, and I I think I like it pretty similarly to the 741 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,920 Endorphin Pro form. I think Cloud Boom E3 is a 742 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,600 little bit lighter. I don't think it's under 6 743 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,280 ounces for women, but. I think it's 7.4. 744 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,640 I want to say man size 9. Yeah, so then it's probably like 745 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,800 a few tenths of an ounce lighter for the women's too. 746 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,280 But I would say the difference between Cloud Boom E3 and 747 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:56,280 Endorphin Pro four, I don't notice the heel of Cloud Boom E3 748 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,080 at all. Like even if I'm using it for 749 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,960 like a workout where I'm doing like an easy warm up and 750 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,360 cooldown in it, I can run easy in it and like the heel just 751 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,440 isn't there. Whereas I definitely noticed the 752 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,480 heel in Endorphin Pro 4 at slower paces. 753 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,960 But again, these are racing shoes, so you're not running 754 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,080 slow in them. But I would say by a hair cloud 755 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,040 Boom E3 probably feels a little more natural for me than 756 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,760 Endorphin Pro 4. But I like both of them quite a 757 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,120 bit actually. So we'll see what I end up 758 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,800 picking for the Bix. I'm doing a five mile race on 759 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,720 July 4th, so I'll probably use the same shoe I want to use for 760 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,200 the Bix in that five mile race. So we'll see. 761 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,680 Yeah, that'll be a fun one. Yeah, yeah, it's I'm having so 762 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,840 much fun doing shorter races this spring and summer. 763 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,400 Yeah, yeah, I was a mid distance runner, so like all this 764 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,920 marathon training was definitely not like what I'm used to. 765 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,800 Fun. Yes. 766 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,520 Even though I had fun doing it, I am really having fun, like 767 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,120 going to the track and like actually running really fast. 768 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,320 A few, you know, two times a week. 769 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,360 Yeah, yeah. So our last category, which I 770 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,240 like this category actually, I don't know who came up with it, 771 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:20,040 but I think it's a good one. So, you know, it's 2024, so all 772 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,720 of the shoes from last year are starting to go on sale. 773 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:28,000 So what is your favorite pick from last year that's on sale 774 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,320 now that people should check out? 775 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,200 Yeah, if they're still on sale, because you know how 776 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,440 everything's kind of filtering out now for the new wave. 777 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,680 Yeah, there's been a couple like Saucony wide sales across 778 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,760 different platforms. I've seen running Warehouse I 779 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,840 think had upwards of like 40% off on some of those models, 780 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,680 which is really good. If it like the ride, if you 781 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,760 could snag one of those, that's a great deal in value. 782 00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:01,160 I think I got like 200 miles in my last one and that could have 783 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,720 kept going. You know, we just review so many 784 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,480 shoes. It's at a certain point I have 785 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,320 to say bye to them or else I have way too many. 786 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,000 That's a good one. I saw the Noosa, the, the old 787 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,320 Noosa was on sale I think for right around 100, which is a 788 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,440 great value for that shoe if it's still there. 789 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,560 I that was, I think I sent that to some of my training partners 790 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,680 like a week ago on running warehouse that that was there. 791 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,280 I was like, if it doesn't sell out, that's a good one. 792 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,920 Go get it for workouts and things. 793 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,640 If you can find, I know Adidas always runs pretty good sales 794 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,320 when they do new models like every once in a while you could 795 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,280 see the audios 8 or or the Boston we checked out before the 796 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,560 recording. There wasn't anything super 797 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,560 great on the Boston right now, but sometimes you could snag 798 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,960 Audios or Boston for pretty darn cheap because they'll just 799 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,440 release a new color way and then discount it like 50% for some 800 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,160 reason. Yeah, I don't know why Adidas 801 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,720 does that, but it's great. I'm not complaining. 802 00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:05,840 No, it is great for us. Isn't it nice? 803 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,160 Yeah. Those are my picks, yeah. 804 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,920 Well, I my number one pick, which of course will not 805 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,880 surprise anyone, is the Brooks Hyperion Max is on sale right 806 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,960 now at Brooks and other websites. 807 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,000 It's normally 170. It's on sale for 1:10. 808 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,120 I got a pair for a little less than that from Dick's a couple 809 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,200 months ago. So I mean those who follow the 810 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,160 podcast know that's like my all time favorite shoe besides the 811 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,600 New Balance Beacon. So I am hoarding Hyperion Max's 812 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,920 because of course they're updating it and hopefully they 813 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,280 don't ruin it, but if they do at least I'll have my stockpile to 814 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:50,000 be prepared. As far as other shoes that are 815 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:56,200 on sale, I saw that A1 color way of the topo Atmos is on sale. 816 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,720 I've actually really been enjoying running in that shoe. 817 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,280 I got it like months after you guys got it to review. 818 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,320 So I didn't write up a review of it, but it's been one of my 819 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,440 favorite like easy run shoes to run in. 820 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,440 I think I've got almost 100 miles on it this year, but like 821 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,600 the Boston color way of it I think is marked down like 40 822 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,680 bucks or something, so check that out. 823 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,320 Out of curiosity I just googled 1. 824 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,360 My daily trainer of the year last year is currently on sale 825 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,720 pretty hard. The Nike. 826 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:37,040 The Nike Vomero 17 for $111.97 at Nike right now. 827 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,920 I liked that cheer too. That was really a nice cheer to 828 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,640 run in. So 110 for that shoe is awesome. 829 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,920 You have a little bit of zoom X in there, it's durable, you have 830 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,960 good traction. I was able to pretty much hit 831 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,720 any run I wanted on that shoe, so and. 832 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,320 It looks nice too. I wear mine to work because they 833 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,640 I got like a cool like yeah and like blue and gold colorway 834 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,560 actually looks a little. I mean, I definitely am not like 835 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,560 a fashion sneaker person, but my Vomiro is probably the closest 836 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,640 one I've got. Nice, yeah. 837 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,880 Yeah, so I think my pic just changed to the bow marrow 838 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,120 because for 110 bucks that's actually a great deal. 839 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,200 Oh yeah, that is a great deal. Nike does have some pretty good 840 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,680 sales and like surprising ones like they'll put same thing like 841 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,600 with Adidas, they'll put colorways on sale because 842 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,040 they're coming out with new ones. 843 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,320 Yeah, it's like not even a new model, it's just. 844 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,680 Like they just right, yeah. We're just rolling out some 845 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,720 orange ones here. You can take the green ones for. 846 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,360 Cheap like. It's like, sweet, don't mind me, 847 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,800 I'll grab all of them. Yeah. 848 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,680 So are there I'm so we've covered daily trainer, Max 849 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:54,400 stack, performance trainer racing and 2023 shoe that's on 850 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,840 sale. Anything else we should mention 851 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,040 before we wrap up? Have there been any like totally 852 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,440 OK if there isn't, but is, have there been any like trail shoes 853 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,280 or anything that you've liked this year that you've run in? 854 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:11,000 Let's see. None that I really loved. 855 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,800 I was a little disappointed with the Peregrine. 856 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,120 They definitely changed the feel of it. 857 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,040 I haven't tested too many trail shoes this year. 858 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,920 Yeah, I feel like we're using a little light on that category. 859 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,160 Yeah. I feel like I got all of them 860 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,760 this year and then I got them all right when I got hurt, so. 861 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,200 Yeah. The data is slowly trickling. 862 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,680 In here. The new model from Las Fortiva, 863 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,360 the Prodigio is pretty nice. I'm liking that one. 864 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,920 I just wish the the heel collar on it's pretty thin, like the 865 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,720 upper locks in really good and it's really like supportive and 866 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:48,320 it doesn't stretch much like with forces going in either 867 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,080 direction, which is good when you're on the trails. 868 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,640 But it does feel like it just bites in a little bit. 869 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,360 Like I just kind of wish there was a little bit of padding 870 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,840 there just a little bit more, but that she's really promising. 871 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,280 The speed goat just came in. I haven't run in it so I can't 872 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,040 speak on it, but we'll try and get some some trail stuff out 873 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,080 there soon. Oh, you know what just showed up 874 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:13,160 for me as the Reebok Adventure I Floats? 875 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,320 A good adventure, I think that's what they're calling it, which 876 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,360 is basically like the updated Adventure Line Float Ride 877 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,200 adventure, right? Yeah, I think so. 878 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,920 I mean they basically just put like a Symetros outsole on it 879 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,080 and then. Yeah, I liked the previous 880 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,120 versions of the float ride adventure and this one, you 881 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,280 know, feels slightly similar, although that, you know, the 882 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,680 Symetros outsole is a little different. 883 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,560 So I'm excited to try that one because that's a nice like if 884 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,280 it's similar to the previous versions, it's a nice road to 885 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,520 trail shoe. It's not so traily that it's 886 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,880 uncomfortable on pavement. So that'll be a fun 1 to get 887 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,280 some miles on. So yeah, I think we covered. 888 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,320 It. I think we did too. 889 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,600 Yeah. I mean, there, I don't know 890 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,120 about you, but in the past week I think I've gotten 5 pairs of 891 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,920 shoes to test. So we've got so many more to get 892 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,120 miles on and we're only halfway through 2024, so it'll be 893 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:15,040 exciting to see what comes out and whether our picks stand in 894 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,000 December. Right. 895 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,120 Awesome. Well, thanks so much for joining 896 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,320 me earlier on a Sunday. David, the guys usually. 897 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,920 If you guys are watching on YouTube, I'm like sipping from a 898 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,480 coffee mug over here. I'm like, I finished my long 899 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,640 run, scarf down some food and I was like, I gotta get on the 900 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:36,960 recording with Andrew. It's since we're, you know, Matt 901 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,920 and David are in California, I'm in Connecticut, Nathan's in 902 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,280 Wisconsin. The guys usually record later on 903 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,560 Sunday nights. And you know, me being the elder 904 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,320 of the group, I have to go to bed early. 905 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,320 So that's why I don't normally record with them. 906 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,440 So David was kind enough to record with me at my senior hour 907 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,640 today. So I greatly appreciated David. 908 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,800 Of course, anytime. It's always fun recording with 909 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,760 you. I feel like we don't record 910 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,040 together enough. I don't think you and I have 911 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,120 ever done just a David and Andrea episode together. 912 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,920 I think we have, yeah, only ever like a Group One, you know, 913 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,680 where it looks like the Brady Bunch and there's like four of 914 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:18,160 us or something, Yeah. Yeah, we'll have to do this 915 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,680 again. Yeah, we can talk about track. 916 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,440 There we go. Yeah. 917 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,920 It'll give me some spikes from the Olympics and just. 918 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,160 It can be like when. Who pushed who? 919 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,000 Who got D cued? They stepped inside the rail. 920 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:41,560 No one saw. It was on EPO on today's episode 921 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:47,600 of. No, no, no. 922 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,680 We'll come up with some other ideas. 923 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,040 I feel like there's like so many ideas that we had and like, Nate 924 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,720 and Bach are like, no, don't do it. 925 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,960 Yeah, I know they shut down a lot of our ideas, which I felt 926 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:10,000 was very rude just because they have nothing to do with. 927 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:15,240 Yeah. All right. 928 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,480 Well, yes. Well, thank you all for 929 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,720 listening. We hope you enjoyed the special 930 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:26,400 David and Andrea episode of our favorite pick so far for 2024. 931 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,560 Please definitely leave us comments. 932 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,360 We want to know both your favorite shoes thus far and what 933 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,640 David should put up on his wall behind him. 934 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,680 One may be more important than others, but I think David needs 935 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,240 a little decoration back there. So leave us a comment on 936 00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:49,160 YouTube, shoot us an e-mail at doctorsbrunning@gmail.com, and 937 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,280 we'll see you next time.