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Hey everyone, welcome to the 
Doctors of Running podcast, 

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where we, a group of Doctors of 
Physical Therapy, talk about the

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art and the science of things we
put on our feet. 

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Today it's the duo. 
It is David Salas and myself, 

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Matthew Klein. 
We're going to be doing a "Buy 

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and Sell" episode that we're 
always excited for because we're

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hoping that we argue. 
Although generally when David 

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and I say that, we usually end 
up agreeing on everything, which

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is not as fun, but I'm hoping we
have some solid disagreements 

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for your entertainment and that 
you get some good information 

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about our current thoughts. 
A word of warning: a couple of 

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them I have added in, and David 
doesn't know what's coming, so 

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we'll see what happens. 
I'll see if I can create some 

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challenging conversations out of
this. 

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But this episode, as always, is 
sponsored by rabbit, which we're

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both wearing. 
And then David, you have one of 

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their new ones from the Low Tide
collection. 

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Do you want to talk about that? 
Yeah, yeah, it's Low Tide. 

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It's a snap-button. 
It's part of the Sun and Ice 

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collection. 
Is that correct? 

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Yes, yeah. 
It's supposed to be really 

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breathable. 
Like, I think you said this 

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off-air, that it's kind of like 
the High Country, but much 

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lighter. 
It breezes super well, really 

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good for warm temperatures. 
Yeah, it's part of that. 

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I mean, that whole collection is
like UPF outdoor sun-protective 

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type stuff. 
So it is meant to go out and run

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in, even though it looks like it
could be a casual-wear shirt, 

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which I have worn. 
And I, yeah, I took it to the 

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botanical gardens last week and 
it was great. 

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You know, going up and down some
hills and I sweated in it. 

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I mean, you could definitely run
in it for sure. 

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I haven't run in it yet, but 
it's perforated on the back and 

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it's basically like a 
lightweight High Country top. 

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Yep. 
It was great. 

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I wore it while teaching and my 
students didn't say anything 

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other than going, "Oh, you 
finally have a new color." 

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I'm like, "No, no, it's a 
slightly different one," because

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I wear the High Country tops 
every day. 

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And then I wore it in the clinic
that same day and nobody said 

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anything, and then went for a 
run afterwards and it did fine. 

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It was great. 
Very lightweight, very nice. 

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So, yeah, they've got some stuff
coming out. 

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The Low Tide is the first time 
I've ever tried that line. 

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This is normally just the High 
Country individually. 

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But there are two codes, if you 
are curious about any of this 

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stuff. 
If you do a purchase of over $50

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at rabbit, there are two codes 
you can use to get 10% off. 

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The one for April— if you're 
listening to this and it's still

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April, is SPRINGDOCS, all in 
capitals (S-P-R-I-N-G-D-O-C-S), 

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and then the May code is going 
to be MAYDOCS10, again, all 

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capitals (M-A-Y-D-O-C-S-1-0). 
Okay? 

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So now we're going to move on to
our "In for Testing" segment. 

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So, David, what shoes are you 
working on right now? 

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Yeah, I mean, truth be told, I'm
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the testing has come to a little
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to that just so I don't hurt my 
foot, which I almost did last 

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week. 
Oh, gosh. 

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And the Supernova. 
But we've got the Hyperboost 

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Edge. 
Like, that's what some of the 

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training miles have been in from
adidas. 

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We already have the review on 
that, but leading up to the 

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race, I've been wearing that 
shoe more. 

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I've been wearing that shoe 
more. 

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Same with the adidas Adios Pro 
4, except in the Boston colorway

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here, which I think is a really 
sweet colorway. 

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Did you originally get to test 
that shoe back when we reviewed 

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it some time ago, the Pro 4? 
I used your size 10. 

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So now I'm true to size. 
Ah, that's right. 

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And now what is your experience?
Has that changed what you 

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remember? 
Yeah, I like true to size way 

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more. 
Yeah, I mean, it's a snug fit. 

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Like it's lower, but I haven't 
had any issues and I actually 

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feel like I agree with the 
rocker a lot more being true to 

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size than being a half-size up. 
I already really liked it 

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half-size up. 
So, yeah, I actually really like

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it. 
Nice. 

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There's a chance that had I had 
a true-to-size pair at the time,

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that might have changed things. 
I'd have to look at everything 

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that released alongside it. 
Got it, yeah. 

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And those primary ones, and I've
got a few more. 

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Yeah. 
Oh. 

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I did an Agravic 4. 
So we just got the quick 

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evaluation for the Agravic Speed
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This is now the more 
training-friendly companion to 

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that, using a regular 
Lightstrike midsole, not a 

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Lightstrike Pro, and a little 
bit more robust upper. 

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Still has that Continental full 
contact outsole. 

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The midfoot is a little bit 
wider, but still pretty narrow, 

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but I think this one's going to 
feel a little bit more sturdy. 

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It already does walking around 
and doing a little bit in it. 

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than the other one because 
there's no Lightstrike Pro and 

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it's filled in a little bit 
better. 

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Yep. 
We have the Hoka Skyward X 2. 

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So excited about this one. 
Yeah, just max stack, super 

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soft, just a big rocker, right? 
Like, there's no secrets as far 

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as what the Skyward X 2 is 
there. 

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Previous version was a dual 
layer PEBA, so I'm assuming this

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one is too. 
And then... 

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Actually, this one, 
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I'm wrong—is actually EVA at the
bottom and PEBA up top, I think.

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I think, I think, I think. 
Interesting. 

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So they moved away from the dual
layer? 

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Maybe. 
Yeah. 

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Somebody can call me out if I'm 
wrong. 

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That was my understanding. 
And then the other one is the 

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Trailfly Zero, version 2 for 
Inov-8. 

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So we'll be getting some miles 
on that shortly. 

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I've gotten some hikes and stuff
on it, but I haven't gotten a 

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chance to go get a solid run in 
yet. 

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Nice. 
What about you? 

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All right. 
So I've got a couple. 

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I've also got the Hoka Skyward X
2, which I've got about 30 miles

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on already, got three runs in 
it, and got up to that far. 

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Durability seems to be much 
better. 

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I like ripped off this heel 
early on previously. 

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This version's been a lot 
better. 

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I like the lowered stack height.
In fact,