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hello and welcome to the doctors
of running podcast, where we We 

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a group of doctors of physical 
therapy discuss the art and the 

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science of the stuff that we're 
putting on our feet today. 

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We've got me Andrea Myers and 
Megan Flynn here and we're going

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to talk about our 2022 racing 
and training what we learned 

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from it. 
And what we're going to do 

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differently or the same in 2023.
Thanks so much for joining me. 

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Megan of course it's important 
today. 

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Yeah, I love doing our episodes 
together. 

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So I thought we'd start out 
first just talking about why 

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it's important to reflect on 
past racing seasons and maybe 

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some different strategies that 
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Like, I know the main way that I
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like in training Peaks, which is
the training app that I use, my 

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coach can read it, I can look 
back and read things and it the 

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sooner I write down my thoughts 
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the better. 
I can learn from it because even

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a few days later, you kind of 
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That's true. 
So how do what methods do you 

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use to help you reflect on your 
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So, I the main thing that I use 
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keep a training log and I write 
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by the workout when I have a 
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But I also have like a separate 
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That I write down very Held 
about what I was feeling 

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thinking. 
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that right after the race after 
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Because, I mean, let's be 
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Like, during the race you're 
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than you care to admit, like a 
week down the line. 

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Exactly. 
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your journal and you see, oh 
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That's right. 
That really there really wasn't 

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comfortable. 
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important. 
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after the race. 
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forget about really painful 
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So yeah, if you don't write it 
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forget a lot of things that you 
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Those are the things that you 
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right. 
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it's a PR Reese like it's a PR, 
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point, right? 
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with this like a huge positive 
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You're more or less inclined to 
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really uncomfortable because 
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before, right? 
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line and you think of it was all
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You're not expecting or 
remembering that uh, The 

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discomfort that it took to get 
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Yeah, that's a good point. 
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race like PR your had a good 
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negative things. 
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their race. 
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everything perfectly but you 
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have been things that you could 
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it went really well. 
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maybe the few negatives that 
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like Like, I mean, a moment of 
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improve that by not letting that
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But the only way you're going to
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journaling I think. 
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what works for me. 
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in a marathon, let's say you had
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wanted to quit like you're so 
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figure out a strategy to get 
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great, right? 
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got you out of that pattern 
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help you in the next race too. 
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Who not only does she Journal 
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journal and it's so she post 
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journals and it's so cool to see
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artistic. 
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I know my if I ever tried to do 
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No, I wouldn't even know it. 
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like, testing stick people. 
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person. 
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thing and I'm sure there's a lot
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but they take their race numbers
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journal or like race report to 
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they save those. 
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you've kind of got this tangible
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And you know, you can like put 
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wall or whatever. 
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your written words again. 
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own handwriting. 
I think is more meaningful than 

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reading. 
Something that you typed, right?

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you I keep all my bibs. 
My raised beds anyway. 

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So these here, I like that idea.
I'm exposed to that excellent. 

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The I think like Eating on a 
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like, any Runner, any athlete 
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Right? 
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Yeah, because the only way to 
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we did last year, if we do the 
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not going to get different 
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changing your training method. 
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mental training strategies. 
That could be changing nutrition

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strategies but the only way to 
figure out what maybe you should

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try changing is to look back and
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So I'm going to ask our 
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we'll dive into what both Andrew
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racing in 2022. 
So what did you learn from your 

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training? 
And racing in 2022 and what will

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you do differently in 2023? 
You can lose your answers in the

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comment section below and then 
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races. 
So Megan, you had kind of a 

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different 2022 than other 
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multi-sport athlete and you 
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you're still hadn't like a 
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races and I know you learned a 
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year. 
So tell us how 2022 started for 

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you. 
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So 2022 was definitely a lot 
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big jump in training for me a 
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year. 
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that not taking like all the 
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all that it came back and taught
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From there. 
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I was not expecting to become as
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anything. 
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honestly like months ago years 
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biking as much as I'm biking 
like now I would have laughed at

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you because I used to hate that 
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But um yeah. 
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two years ago. 
I did see I am 2021, it was Most

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intense training black, highest 
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I've done, and I felt great 
during it, but it definitely 

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took a toll. 
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for one like, the Met, like, not
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marathon training. 
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huge mental part to it to you. 
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So after that, I was ready for a
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appropriate amount of time to 
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Now, looking back, and it was 
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stopped raining as much as I had
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like, teetering on the line of 
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it was just a lot, everyone 
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that time. 
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All right. 
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it's like, okay. 
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like two months. 
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am and it was hard. 
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know, at the start of the race, 
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harder and then you like, sat 
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looked at my watch, and I was 
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This is slower than I ran the 
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I Points like what's happening. 
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kind of like tell myself. 
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my coach at the time, was 
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I'm going to I'm going to back 
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that wasn't fun. 
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any experiences like that. 
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Everyone's the next both in 
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stop. 
If you don't ya, stop on your 

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own. 
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through as much to likely myself
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Not yet. 
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So don't look so big. 
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like two three months even of 
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work outside and do workouts for
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I didn't have long runs. 
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out to run, I was just running, 
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I enjoy. 
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And then I got to the point that
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skills and I was starting to 
get, I know we probably have 

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talked about this but like you 
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moderate intensity and every run
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I was ending at like a 
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progression around every day 
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It's time to start adding back 
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can keep these intensive. 
The easier days easy and not end

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up injured. 
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I was coaching myself at the 
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me was the first time I was 
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Let me just like right down my 
weekly plan, and then I'll 

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execute it. 
And then I'll see how I feel and

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make my next week, which work 
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And then I know for myself. 
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myself. 
I love to coach other people, 

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but coaching myself, I think is 
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for me. 
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enough or I'm doing too much of 
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is nothing in between those 
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So I ended up reaching out to an
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Who's also she's she's an elite 
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like she wasn't really compete 
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help me just come up with a plan
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and go from there. 
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together. 
I did a 5K in June is my first 

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race back after this, like 
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where I'm at like as I go to see
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what I was running last year and
I didn't and it was I mean, it 

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was that first like rust Buster 
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season. 
Anytime you take a break after 

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any injury like that first race,
it's going to hurt and it's 

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probably not going to go. 
Don't lie. 

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But so I went into it. 
I was a little upset with the 

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result, but then I was like, 
wow, I really, I miss this, like

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I miss this competition, so they
okay. 

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Let's like let's really get back
into it. 

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Let's focus on the next thing 
and like really work toward the 

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Big Goal at the end of the year,
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I am, I think a week after that 
I ended up with an injury that 

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ended up like I mean, it still 
bugs me to this day but like the

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next week I went to do a workout
and I had this like sharp pain 

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in my hip was like, oh no, all 
right, try to ignore, you didn't

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go away. 
But so then that brings into I 

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think for me the biggest 
takeaway from 2022 like normally

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any time like something, any any
injury really or anything that 

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hold me back and my running 
training. 

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It's usually very, very negative
for me. 

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So, instead of that this time, 
my boyfriend, excuse me, do 

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cycling. 
He's like, let's you know, what 

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I tried running workout and I 
got the sharp pain like four 

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times. 
Like I'm done, I called him to 

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come. 
Pick me up. 

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I was like, I'll just go to the 
gym and do a workout on the 

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bike. 
Fine. 

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I hate to endure a trainer, but 
whatever. 

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So it was like, no, we're going 
to a cycle shop, and we're going

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to get to A bike. 
This is like July. 

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Nobody wants to be inside on a 
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outside. 
So we bought a bike that day. 

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We went out and then just did a 
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for a few months and I was 
surprised how much I enjoyed it.

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But but yeah. 
So I ended up when I started 

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running again. 
I think it was like end of 

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August. 
So I stopped running in end of 

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June. 
Started running again, end of 

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August, but in that time I had 
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And, you know, you know, of all 
people like you can get in 

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really, really good shape. 
Just cycle your whole exit, very

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strong, but yeah. 
So during that time was like, 

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you know what, let me like, I'm 
making the most of it. 

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I'm biking more than ever. 
I'm swimming more than I ever 

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have. 
Let's sign up for a trial. 

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Ethel on and pray that I can run
by it. 

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And if not then, oh well, 
there's remember how much it was

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but I was like you know what 
it's worth. 

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It gives me something to shoot 
for for now. 

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So that was in September. 
I did a Sprint Triathlon. 

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And I remember that being like, 
there's no like you you're 

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getting into the competition but
there's zero. 

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Like I didn't put any pressure 
For myself. 

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It was my first one. 
I've never competed in a swim 

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event a bike event or I've never
run coming off of a bike. 

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So I was like whatever. 
Let's just let's just dive in. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Which it's funny. 

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You say that. 
So at the start of the swim, I 

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had been told run in as far as 
you can and then start swimming 

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everyone else do this. 
I am I trying to run through 

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these people kicking and all 
that but the sun was definitely 

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interesting to me. 
That's like I mean they swim in 

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the pool, you something like you
training. 

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Like at least I came by myself 
in the pool. 

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You're not ready for or I wasn't
ready for Open Water swimming. 

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With hundreds of people around 
me and not being able to see. 

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Yes, At one point I was like, I 
just stopped, I was like, 

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completely vertical with people 
are like kicking and like, you 

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know, that's like I'm gonna make
it move like, you know, it's 

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almost like a 5-10 minutes swim 
in a Sprint. 

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Yeah, just get there. 
But yeah, so then so when I got 

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out of the water, my mindset was
like Swim is like the only one 

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that really like requires your 
arms. 

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So I'll just use like, just like
fatigue my arms out. 

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And I remember getting out of 
the water and being shocked. 

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How tired my legs were? 
I don't know. 

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Have you ever experienced that? 
Well, um, I've the only 

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Triathlon I've done was as a 
child, so I don't really 

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remember that, but I was a 
swimmer when I was younger, so I

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definitely know how tired your 
legs get swimming, and then I 

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was so surprised. 
Yeah, and then you're good on 

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the bike. 
And You're like, oh no. 

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Yeah, like oh my gosh, I have to
write the run from the water to 

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the bike. 
Hmm my legs felt so heavy on 

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like this is, this is fun. 
What a great idea that guy. 

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Yeah, so that was after that 
that race that was the first 

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harder run I had done since 
since the The injury started. 

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So I think that for me was a big
test of our my legs ready to get

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back to running and yeah tested 
them after probably my hardest 

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bike ride ever and it was fine. 
That's great. 

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Is a nice reminder of how much 
like I want to say Fitness was 

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lost but like Getting your 
running legs back. 

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Yeah, like how much that takes 
like coming off like from Viking

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a ton to just going back to 
running or finding your legs and

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getting used to, like, what a 
temple is and and all that. 

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So during it was a three mile, 
ER, at the end, not a 5K. 

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And I went through the first 
mile, I was like, I'm flying and

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it was like my old clothes to my
old Tempo piece. 

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Okay, I'm not paying. 
So, this is good. 

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But yeah, so after that I think 
a big takeaway from that whole 

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section of the Year for me like 
I said was like cross-training 

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can do a lot more than you're 
giving it a chance to do. 

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It can really complement your 
training and get a stronger than

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then you could with just running
and it works different muscles. 

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I mean swimming's great core 
upper body do that. 

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So after the Why is like okay, 
let's see what I can do. 

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I think, see IM was like, eight 
or nine weeks away and my 

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longest run was like three 
months my God, yay. 

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Well, let's see, yeah. 
Let's try to make sure the start

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line. 
Then we'll make to the finish 

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line and we'll go from there and
anything in between is sure. 

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So it's like I have to probably 
find a half marathon or 

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something to just like At least 
see where I am halfway through 

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training and get back into that 
longer racing mentality because 

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it had been I mean if I hadn't 
done that would be like a year 

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since the previous longer race 
which was see I am in 2021. 

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So I signed up for prints and 
half marathon. 

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I was between I was between that
one and then there was another 

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by the beach. 
I was like oh that'd be good. 

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It's flat and ended up picking 
Princeton because we just 

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adopted a puppy and I want him 
to be there. 

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That's a very good reasons. 
I know I want him to be there 

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and I don't want to have to 
like, I don't know, leave him in

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the crate all the time. 
So yeah, I ended up going with 

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Princeton but yeah. 
So that course is it's known for

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being really hilly, which then I
was thinking more like that 

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might be good because this whole
training Cycles, going to be all

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about effort. 
So, instead of like, what I had 

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been doing like in 2021, is I 
have these strict Paces that I 

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have to hit and I would hold 
myself to that regardless of how

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I was feeling. 
Like, I like to think I can, 

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like, go based off of effort, 
but not having Pace goal in mind

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during any workout and just 
going off of like, How you're 

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feeling like during like my long
run work outside? 

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Ask myself can you realistically
hold this for 26 miles, right? 

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And if the answer was no, then I
back off regardless of like 

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okay, it feels easy but like I 
know I'm not going to hold this 

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for 26 Miles because with 
marathon training as a lot as as

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you know like it's you're never 
really redlining and training in

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any of those marathon pace runs 
you should feel comfortable. 

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Really uncomfortable, I guess. 
But yeah. 

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So Princeton came around and 
we're not really being like with

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this one. 
I wasn't I wasn't necessarily 

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like nervous for like I usually 
get before races. 

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I think it was because I was 
more like excited about just 

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getting back into that race like
getting back into the racing 

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community and just getting like 
Used to that again, but yeah. 

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So at all, so not expecting a PR
also took pressure off. 

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Like I knew I wasn't none of my 
workouts that indicated I was 

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anywhere near running a PR. 
So I was like, okay let's just 

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see what I can do. - split would
be great and just have fun. 

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There's actually my boyfriend as
a video like they were at a few 

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points of the of the race and he
had the he had her dog chogi. 

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Yes, need dr. 
Elliot can do keep up awesome. 

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And I actually like, went over 
to the side and like, pet him. 

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It was a lot of fun. 
Yeah. 

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And I feel like I had lost that,
like, fun aspect of it during 

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the 2021, like, yeah, I enjoyed 
it. 

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It's ever who doesn't like pra 
but, like, not losing sight of, 

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like, the pure joy of running in
training. 

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So that was a big thing for 
Princeton like, I was way off a 

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PR, but I was so happy after you
believe that was a blast but 

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yeah. 
So after that I think it was 

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like a pro 4 weeks away from. 
See I am I if I had to guess I 

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signed up for a Turkey Trot it 
was like a small like local one.

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Well, it was actually ended up 
being pretty big, but it was a 

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local one that I had gone to 
last year to watch as I go with 

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my family and they all this 
would have been So much fun. 

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But at that time, I was 10 days 
away from see IM in 2021. 

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And I was afraid that like, 
because I knew I was like, 

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teetering on the edge of too 
much. 

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There's afraid if I threw in 
like a 5k, I tear my hamstring 

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or like something would break. 
So I didn't do it. 

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I'm 20 21. 
I was looking forward to in 

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2022. 
So, let's see what I can do and 

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this was like again, like ten 
days before. 

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See, I am this this past year. 
And it was like probably the 

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best thing that could have 
happened in my training, just 

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gave me like a confidence boost 
and it showed me like, okay, 

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you're you're in better running 
shape then like you thought, or 

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at least you had more speed than
you talk. 

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So I ended up being pretty close
to 5 K PR. 

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Okay. 
If on the roads at least I think

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it ended up being a three mile 
ER because they had there was a 

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construction on the course but I
think converted I was probably 

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like 10 seconds. 
Off-road PR, which to me was 

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like what that's incredible. 
Especially at the end of 

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marathon training. 
Yeah, that's yeah. 

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It was a nice confidence boost 
that I think was needed before. 

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See IM. 
The yeah. 

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So then see, I am rolls around 
and I was just happy to get to 

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the starting line and I hadn't 
had any pain since I started 

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running. 
So, probably since like, Like 

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obviously, probably since, like,
July was the last time I had 

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felt any discomfort. 
So that was like, going back to 

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the journaling that we had 
talked about. 

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I journaled so much during this 
training block, just like 

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reminding myself how I felt 
during this, like if they're 

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like just being grateful, like 
writing down, like I'm just glad

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I can run. 
Well, why like all that and 

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going back to like reading that 
before? 

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See I am. 
So let's see. 

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See I am was like it was a 
pretty amazing experience for me

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like going into it knowing like 
again, like knowing my workout 

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for an indicating I was ready to
PR but my goal was let me just 

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run a respectable race in like 
in my eyes like don't crash and 

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burn. 
Who was number one, finish will 

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actually start to finish was 
number one. 

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Don't crash and burn with number
two, And then see if I could get

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under it set, like a few 
different time goals that I 

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didn't really want like to be my
primary focus there. 

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So I was like, let's just go 
under 315 then let's say 310 

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three. 
And then if it's an amazing day 

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and I find myself in your PR 
sure, but that race was a big 

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mental. 
Mental battle for me. 

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I think it was like more of 
Physically at her because it's a

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marathon but the mental part of 
it really played a big part. 

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And I think that like the mental
training aspect of it, I think 

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is the big my big takeaway from 
see I am so leading up to it 

448
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:32,600
knowing that I wasn't where I 
wanted to be physically like 

449
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,700
looking back a year ago at CI M 
2022. 

450
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:40,000
I had a much different vision of
it before the whole year. 

451
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,700
So taking In that and throwing 
that away. 

452
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,000
And then revisiting like, why am
I doing this? 

453
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,600
You're not doing this, like just
for the times you're not doing 

454
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,500
this for anything. 
It's why are you doing this? 

455
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:59,800
So I had that written down, I 
wrote like one word, on my arm 

456
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,300
that just kind of like reminding
me. 

457
00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:04,300
So, what if I did forget during 
the race, I had that right there

458
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,200
by. 
He's like every mental strategy,

459
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,500
monitored any distraction, I 
could during the race. 

460
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Anyone that I saw on the 
sidelines. 

461
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,600
Like even if I knew them or not,
I would just like, yell back at 

462
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,700
them. 
I saw like a few Vizslas that 

463
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,500
which is kind of dog. 
We got I saw a few Vizslas on 

464
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:26,500
the side that I like kind of 
reached over. 

465
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:31,900
But anything that might distract
myself and then it really became

466
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:37,800
important Mile and he was around
my 18, that injury came back and

467
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,300
I had like that one instance of 
like, Oh my God. 

468
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:45,200
Like it's just like a quick 
like, a quick sharp pain. 

469
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,900
I was like, okay, it is one of 
those. 

470
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:49,600
I'm going to race. 
I'm here, I'm not going to not 

471
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,200
finish. 
So I stopped a few times in the 

472
00:28:53,200 --> 00:29:00,100
last 10 K and just did some of 
my PT exercises and then the 

473
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:04,200
last like five k, maybe a little
less than 5 K. 

474
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,500
I just like stopped carrying of 
follows like you're going to 

475
00:29:07,508 --> 00:29:09,500
finish this. 
So don't stop anymore. 

476
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:14,700
Young ever crossing the line, 
and just being like, Ecstatic 

477
00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:18,800
with the result, like I was 
again, knowing your PR, but just

478
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,400
very proud. 
And I think that was like, Like 

479
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,500
nice combination of 2022 for me.
Like just be proud of and happy 

480
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:34,300
where you are and like enjoy it.
I think that was my my biggest 

481
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:37,700
thing. 
But yeah, that was my last race 

482
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:42,100
of 2022. 
I think just to sum up and I was

483
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:46,400
like a lot. 
I think the biggest thing is 

484
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,900
listen to your body regardless 
of what any coaches telling you,

485
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:54,000
you know, your body best do. 
And ignore it when it's telling 

486
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,400
you that you need a break, I 
think. 

487
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,800
If I had taken a break, my 2022 
might look different. 

488
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:05,000
But I also think I needed a year
like 20 22 in terms of like the 

489
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,300
cross training and that brings 
like another lesson incorporate 

490
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,100
across training, into your, into
your training. 

491
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:16,500
It can be a huge, huge help and 
I think, I don't think see, I am

492
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,100
would have gone anywhere near as
well. 

493
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,600
I don't even know if I would 
have made it to see. 

494
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,900
I am, if I hadn't started with 
the crushed, And keep an open 

495
00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,600
mind. 
I like I said, I used to hate 

496
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,000
hate biking and now I love it. 
I liked every day for the last 

497
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,100
like month month and a half. 
But yeah. 

498
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:40,400
And then yeah, I mean kind of 
opened my eyes to like a new 

499
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,500
world for me. 
Like, triathlons likes at some 

500
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:48,000
point in the future. 
Yeah, that was my 2022. 

501
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,700
I think that's a really good 
point. 

502
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,500
Megan about cross-training 
runners. 

503
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,500
I think more than maybe other 
disciplines get really caught up

504
00:30:56,500 --> 00:31:01,200
in mileage, like we think that 
our miles per week is like the 

505
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,300
one thing that sums up like how 
hard we're training, or how 

506
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:06,400
serious, we are, how fast we 
are. 

507
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:11,200
And that's not really the case. 
There is correlation of course, 

508
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,700
between like weekly mileage and 
performance. 

509
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:19,900
But some people do better with a
little lower weekly mileage and 

510
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:22,500
maybe one or two days of 
cross-training thrown in. 

511
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,500
And some people do really well 
with high mileage and no cross 

512
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:31,400
training, but a lot of people 
like you found adding in that 

513
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,100
cross training actually made you
stronger, like you probably 

514
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:40,200
noticed like you're a lot 
stronger on Hills running and it

515
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,100
gives you the ability to recruit
your muscle fibers a little bit 

516
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:47,300
differently, it just gives you 
more of a reserve. 

517
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:53,100
I think so. 
Don't I 100% agree. 

518
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,200
Don't be afraid to cross train, 
don't be afraid to like one or 

519
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,400
two days a week instead of doing
you know six or seven days of 

520
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,800
running because you might 
actually find it makes you a 

521
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,200
better Runner than you are when 
you're just running for sure. 

522
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:09,400
Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

523
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:15,000
And I don't think I used to do 
like double runs two times a 

524
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,500
week in 2021. 
I don't know like saying this 

525
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,300
now I don't know but I don't 
know. 

526
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800
If I'd ever do another run 
double, I think if I started 

527
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,100
double workouts again, I would 
do a rot one month and then bike

528
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,100
instead of running again, 
because it's so much easier on 

529
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,600
your body to solutely. 
Recovery is so much quicker and 

530
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,700
you get the same benefits. 
Like it's great on. 

531
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:40,800
Yeah. 
Like, I find the bike to be like

532
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,700
my magic wand for, like muscle, 
soreness, or fatigue. 

533
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:50,000
Like, I could be so sore from a 
race or like a hard workout and 

534
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,800
I You like, 30 minutes, really 
easy on the bike and I get off 

535
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,500
and I feel like a new person and
I mean, like, the intensity that

536
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:01,200
I did is like the equivalent of 
going for a walk, the because 

537
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,800
you're on the bike and putting 
so little impact through your 

538
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,700
muscles and your joints. 
It's just so much better for 

539
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:11,100
recovery than going for a super 
slow run. 

540
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:17,200
Yeah, I 100% agree. 
So it's a lot about my 2022. 

541
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,300
Now let's get to your 20 22, 
Andrea. 

542
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Well, I had 2022. 
Was definitely a year of change 

543
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,700
for me, too. 
I also ended up switching 

544
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:32,800
coaches. 
So, I had, basically, for those 

545
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,200
who don't know my background, I 
have ran all of my life since I 

546
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,900
was a little kid and then I got 
injured in college and took a 

547
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,700
cycling, just as a way of cross 
training and that led me to 

548
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:50,300
racing professionally as a road 
cyclist for a while. 

549
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,900
And I took several years off of 
running just to focus on cycling

550
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:59,500
and then you know as the years 
went on, I kind of it was hard 

551
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:04,200
to find things that motivated me
with cycling Zone like I took a 

552
00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:09,699
mountain biking, I started doing
more like hill climbing like I 

553
00:34:09,708 --> 00:34:12,699
did the race at Mount Washington
a few times and that gave me 

554
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:16,600
like a new goal to work towards,
but I just got to the point 

555
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:22,199
where it was like, I don't want 
to drain 15. 18 hours a week for

556
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:26,300
the same old thing anymore so I 
started running a little bit 

557
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,800
more each year like I've got a 
bunch of triathlete friends who 

558
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,300
would you know sneakily invite 
me on their runs and suddenly I 

559
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:38,500
found myself doing like 12 or 13
Mile runs with them. 

560
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,800
They knew what they were doing. 
So basically I you know over 

561
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,300
probably like the past, I don't 
know six years I've been 

562
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:53,000
gradually increasing my grunting
and In 2021. 

563
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:57,800
I decided I was actually ready 
to run another Marathon. 

564
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:04,900
So I got a coach and you know, 
her method worked for me like I 

565
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:09,000
had an awesome race like much 
faster than I ever thought 

566
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:15,200
possible but after that race 
just the the type of training 

567
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,600
she had me do didn't work for me
like it was too dissimilar to 

568
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,200
what worked for me. 
On the bike. 

569
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:25,800
I really needed to spend a lot 
of time building my threshold 

570
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,400
before doing a lot of like 
anaerobic work and I was kind of

571
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,900
doing the opposite with her and 
it was like just making me peek 

572
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:38,000
way too early and then I just 
felt like really burnt out like 

573
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,800
way too soon in the season 
because that ever happened to 

574
00:35:40,808 --> 00:35:44,000
your Megan with training, we're 
like you do too much, speed work

575
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,500
too early and then you're just 
like you, you know, get really 

576
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:52,300
high on your - and then like 
Crash and Burn. 

577
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,200
You feel super burnout? 
Oh, yeah. 

578
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Yeah, look, the first like, like
you feel great? 

579
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,300
Within like the first three to 
four weeks of training, and then

580
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:04,800
it all catches up to your eye. 
And yeah, I'm like you're just 

581
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,100
you're too far behind. 
Yeah. 

582
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:09,500
Your Peak is lower than what it 
would have been. 

583
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:13,800
If you spent more time doing 
like threshold ish work, and 

584
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,700
then like capping it off with 
more speed work as you get 

585
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:22,100
closer to a season. 
So I just, you know, I wasn't 

586
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,900
even running that high of 
mileage and I just felt tired 

587
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:27,700
all the time. 
My races weren't going well. 

588
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:32,200
So, and at the same time I'd 
also quit my clinic job and 

589
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,400
like, went all in on starting my
own business. 

590
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,600
So it was just, it was all time 
for a change. 

591
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:43,900
So I found like a base training 
plan, written by a coach that I 

592
00:36:43,908 --> 00:36:47,800
did, like in the fall and the 
beginning of the winter in 21, 

593
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,400
and it was like, exactly. 
How I trained on the bike and I 

594
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,600
was like, wow I feel this feels 
so natural and like the mileage 

595
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,500
was higher already than what I 
had been doing in the middle of 

596
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:04,300
my season. 
Like this is what I need and I 

597
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:09,800
think that's one of the best 
lessons that I got out of 2022 

598
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,500
is it's so important to listen 
to your body and like your body 

599
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:17,900
will tell you, if something is 
working for you or if it's not 

600
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,100
and just because like one 
Training Method, Works well for 

601
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:24,300
your friend doesn't mean that 
it's going to work well for you 

602
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:27,500
who might have slightly 
different muscle physiology. 

603
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:31,100
Maybe you're more of like a slow
twitch type Runner or you're 

604
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:35,500
more of a fast which type Runner
everybody responds differently 

605
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:38,700
to different training. 
So it's really important to 

606
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:42,300
figure out what works for you 
and then stick with it. 

607
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,300
So, I after doing this base 
training plan, I contacted this 

608
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:50,400
coach and I said, hey, I really 
love this training. 

609
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:53,300
Plan while you're actually 
coached me and fortunately, he 

610
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:58,000
said yes. 
So I mean by the end of January,

611
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,800
I think I was doing like around 
60 miles a week which was like 

612
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,200
the highest mileage I had done 
ever, you know, leading into my 

613
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,700
2021 Marathon. 
But again, like just felt like a

614
00:38:10,708 --> 00:38:14,500
totally different athlete 
because the type of training I 

615
00:38:14,508 --> 00:38:17,500
was doing was different. 
It was a lot of threshold, like,

616
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:21,900
short threshold efforts to like,
Nothing longer than a mile, but 

617
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,600
a lot of it with like, short 
rest. 

618
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,500
And I think that's key to, like,
I definitely am more of a fast 

619
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:31,900
twitch type athlete. 
So if you give me long, 

620
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:36,400
recoveries, it's going to let me
kind of cheat and like push a 

621
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,300
little too hard but because I 
can recover, I'm basically 

622
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:45,800
always overtraining but if you 
do, you know medium-length 

623
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,100
efforts with short rest, it 
really keeps you honest, because

624
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:52,500
you're not getting full. 
Cutlery between three people. 

625
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:58,200
So I like by January. 
I was like, this is amazing. 

626
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,700
I feel, you know, the best I 
have in years. 

627
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,000
I feel the way I did when I was 
in the middle of bike training, 

628
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:09,200
you know, I don't feel beat down
and burn out like I didn't 2021.

629
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,200
So I started thinking about like
what I wanted to do for the 

630
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,100
year, and I definitely wanted to
do a marathon. 

631
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,800
But for me last year, Here at 
least the idea of training 

632
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,900
through the winter for spring 
Marathon did not sound very 

633
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:28,400
appealing. 
So I decided I was going to do a

634
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,300
fall one. 
So my idea was just going to 

635
00:39:31,308 --> 00:39:34,200
build like spring and summer. 
Get us fit. 

636
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,000
As I can do some shorter races, 
you know, recover and then build

637
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,000
back up for a full Marathon. 
So I did like several like 

638
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,200
little tune-up races in February
and March like a seven and a 

639
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,900
half. 
Mile radius around a lake. 

640
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:55,500
That was my first race that like
the end of February. 

641
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:59,700
It was probably like 30 degrees 
out and super windy, you know, 

642
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,700
like the type of race that, 
that, you know, you're not going

643
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,600
to have like a PR race. 
But you're just there to get a 

644
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,200
race under your belt, and, you 
know, get it done and same thing

645
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,900
like just shaking out the 
cobwebs figuring out. 

646
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:16,800
Well, what is my actual race 
Pace? 

647
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,400
Right? 
Like I've been doing all this 

648
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,800
training, but how is that going 
to To translate to racing. 

649
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,400
And you know, I pleasantly 
surprised myself with the pace 

650
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400
that I ended up doing. 
It was a little faster than what

651
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,200
I thought I was going to do and,
you know, that's all you can 

652
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,700
really hope for with your first 
race of the year. 

653
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,600
So, I did a second race. 
The following weekend that was 

654
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,900
just like a 5-mile aura that had
a few Hills. 

655
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:46,800
It was a really small race. 
So I ended up basically by 

656
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,400
myself the whole time, but same 
thing like, Because you're as 

657
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,200
you're building your Fitness, 
you don't really know like what 

658
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,700
you're capable of, right? 
Like you have to go off of 

659
00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:00,900
effort and that's how I erased 
on the bike. 

660
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:05,200
Like in cycling, we have power 
meters that really helped us 

661
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,700
dial in our effort, but I really
don't like racing looking at my 

662
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:13,300
power meter because it's just 
it's too much information for 

663
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:16,500
me. 
Like I always preferred to race 

664
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,500
based on feel rather than like 
hitting a number. 

665
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,700
Because let's say you're in the 
middle of a race. 

666
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:29,000
And you look down and your power
is lower than you expected, but 

667
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,500
you're dying like that doesn't 
help you. 

668
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,800
It just makes you feel worse 
about yourself. 

669
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:37,200
And if you're in the middle of a
race, and you look down in your 

670
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,900
power is higher than your 
expected and your feel good. 

671
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,600
Well, you're not going to slow 
down, you're just going to keep 

672
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,100
going because you feel good and 
it feels appropriate. 

673
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:51,100
So in running, you know. 
Yeah, we have the In power 

674
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:55,300
meter, I tried that and I can't 
say I really felt like it was 

675
00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:59,000
anywhere near as useful as a 
cycling parameter just because 

676
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,300
it's measuring two totally 
different things in running. 

677
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:07,600
We really have to learn to 
listen to our bodies and like 

678
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:09,800
run by effort which is what you 
talked about. 

679
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,600
Like you spent all last year 
running by effort because these 

680
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,800
goal Paces that our coaches give
us or training plans. 

681
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,500
Give us their based on like 
race. 

682
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,700
Racing in an ideal conditions, 
meaning like no wind temperature

683
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:31,100
around 50, no Hills. 
And I've never done a race like 

684
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:35,400
that, I don't know about, you 
know, so maybe an indoor track. 

685
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Yeah, but never out, oh, no. 
So, you know, even even with her

686
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,400
running, so many people take 
like their goal Paces as gospel 

687
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,600
and like get upset if they're 
like two seconds per mile off. 

688
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:54,800
Peace. 
Your body doesn't know Pace. 

689
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,100
Your body knows effort and 
sometimes your pace is going to 

690
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,800
be a little faster than your 
expect. 

691
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,900
Sometimes it's going to be a 
little slower, but the more you 

692
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:10,700
can just learn to trust your 
body and Race by feel and 

693
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:15,000
trained by feel actually rather 
than like just being dependent 

694
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,200
on what your watch tells you the
better eraser you're going to be

695
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,500
for many. 
Ins one, your watches and always

696
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,300
accurate, right? 
Like one of my friends watches 

697
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:28,700
during a marathon you know 
suddenly said she was doing like

698
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:31,900
15 minute miles and she 
definitely wasn't. 

699
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:36,200
And it did that for I think the 
last five miles of the race for 

700
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,900
her so she just had to run based
on what she thought marathon. 

701
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:43,300
Pace was. 
Guess what she ended up with 

702
00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:45,300
like a five-minute PR in the 
marathon. 

703
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:50,600
So sometimes we can't just rely 
on. 

704
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:53,100
Our watches, right? 
We've got to learn how to rely 

705
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:58,000
on ourselves, so and this 5-mile
race definitely helped me like 

706
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:04,300
get back into the feeling of. 
Okay, what just what's the 

707
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,200
fastest? 
I can go and make it to the 

708
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Finish Line without dying. 
We're like, with dying at the 

709
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,600
finish line and it was, you 
know, a good race. 

710
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,500
I won the women's race. 
It was small, you know, nothing 

711
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,300
definitely not a big race, but 
it gave me a lot of confidence 

712
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:22,700
that my training was Working 
that I was on the right track 

713
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:28,100
and I didn't really have races 
like that the year before or 

714
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:32,700
after the marathon I just felt 
like I was getting tired and 

715
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:36,400
slower. 
So like those first two races of

716
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:42,500
22 definitely like gave me a ton
of confidence that my training 

717
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:44,300
was, right? 
I was on the right track. 

718
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:47,300
I could see that my fitness had 
already like tremendously 

719
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:52,600
improved in a few months, so I 
was Really excited to like keep 

720
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:58,100
training and racing which of 
course led me to the like big 

721
00:44:58,100 --> 00:44:59,800
goal. 
I had in the spring, which was a

722
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,700
half marathon in April, I got a 
cold the week before the race. 

723
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:08,600
So I, you know, I know a lot of 
people would race with the cold 

724
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:16,300
but I've done so many bike races
sick or injured and like I just 

725
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:20,700
I'm kind of done like torturing 
myself in that sentence and And 

726
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:25,100
like I didn't want to have 
bronchitis for two weeks if I 

727
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,700
did a half marathon sick, you 
know, I didn't I wanted to be 

728
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:33,100
able to keep running and 
training so I just I was like 

729
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:36,000
it's not worth it, there are so 
many more races to do. 

730
00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:40,500
So I deferred that race. 
And you know, one of the things 

731
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:44,600
I really love about my coach is,
he's like, remember your health 

732
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,400
is the most important thing? 
And, you know, so many times in 

733
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,900
bike racing, that was But I was 
told either explicitly or 

734
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:58,300
implicitly like I did a whole 
seven-day Grace with a stomach 

735
00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:04,100
bug and I got a couple of good 
results doing that but it took 

736
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:08,700
me over a month to recover from 
doing that to my body you know. 

737
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:11,400
Like I had to go to the hospital
and get an IV. 

738
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,200
I was so dehydrated after doing 
that so like I've just I've 

739
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,500
learned and I'm no longer 
willing to torture. 

740
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,900
Myself to Joy particular is 
like, there's always going to be

741
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:29,100
another race and it's not worth 
like driving myself into the 

742
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,500
ground one. 
Because no, real like I'm doing 

743
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:34,700
this for fun. 
No one's paying me to do both 

744
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,900
and to, you know, I need to be 
able to go to work and like 

745
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:43,200
beer, you know, be there for my 
family and all of that. 

746
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,400
So, yeah, so I did not do the 
half marathon, which was fine. 

747
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:53,300
I'm going to do it this year and
I Recover and started building 

748
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:55,700
back up again. 
And then I was signed up for 

749
00:46:55,700 --> 00:47:00,000
this really cool race that is 
right near where I live in May, 

750
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:03,900
it's called The Mark Twain race,
as Mark Twain used to live in 

751
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:07,600
this town Redding. 
Connecticut, his property is 

752
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,700
actually up for sale. 
If anyone is interested, it's 

753
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:14,500
this like wild-looking property 
on the side of the super Steep 

754
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:18,100
Hill, I think it's for sale for 
like, a few million dollars. 

755
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:24,800
But yeah, it's not But this race
is really hilly. 

756
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:31,400
It starts in a grass field and 
goes on a few trails and a dirt 

757
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,500
road. 
So it kind of had like a little 

758
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:37,000
bit of everything and it was 
around the time. 

759
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,500
I was testing the New Balance, 
super comp Pacer and the Nike 

760
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:45,600
streak fly and I really loved 
both of those shoes. 

761
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:50,400
But I didn't think either of 
them would do very well on the 

762
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Like off-road parts of the 
course particularly at the Pacer

763
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,400
because like the outsole is so 
soft. 

764
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,100
Even just to running on the 
roads. 

765
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:07,200
I remember I got a few rocks 
like embedded in the outsole and

766
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,500
like I would have to stop during
my workouts and get the rock out

767
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:13,800
because you could feel it 
through the shoe. 

768
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,800
So I actually decided to use the
vapor fly for this race because 

769
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,700
actually because David And, you 
know, our doctors of running 

770
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:25,900
colleague here. 
He uses his Vapor Flies for 

771
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:28,700
everything, like he uses them on
Trails. 

772
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:32,600
I think he has a photo of his 
Vapor Flies, like completely 

773
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,700
covered in mud. 
So I was like, all right, David 

774
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:39,300
uses his Vapor Flies for trail 
running so my Vapor Flies will 

775
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,800
be good for this race that has 
like, you know, maybe a mile and

776
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,500
a half of Trail and dirt road 
and I think one of the special 

777
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:51,900
things about this race is, it's 
So close to where I live. 

778
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:56,700
I've ridden my bike on those 
roads, you know, hundreds if not

779
00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:57,500
at that. 
Wasn't. 

780
00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:01,700
I'm so like, I know every inch 
of the course, like the weekend 

781
00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:05,600
before I went out and did like, 
my long run on the course just 

782
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,100
to remind myself and like there 
were, there's a lot of hills on 

783
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:14,400
this course and as I did, like, 
an easy long run on the course I

784
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,500
made sure to check like, okay. 
What's my like Landmark to know 

785
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:22,000
that I'm near the top of this 
hill? 

786
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,800
What's my Landmark for like a 
half mile to go whatever? 

787
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:30,500
Because that helps me and I'm 
sure it helps a lot of people 

788
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:34,800
just like, chunk the course plan
their efforts get through the 

789
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,000
hard parts. 
So I did that race again. 

790
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Like you talked about with the 
Princeton half marathon because 

791
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,600
it's so hilly, you can't have a 
pace goal, it's going to be all 

792
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,200
over the place. 
So I really just focused on all 

793
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,100
right. 
What's my effortless effort is 

794
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:54,200
going to feel like a little bit 
harder than threshold because 

795
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,000
it's a seven mile race and like 
the whole race. 

796
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,700
I'm just thinking. 
Okay, am I over and am I under 

797
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:03,500
my right there? 
That's kind of how I would ride 

798
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:07,900
time, trials in cycling races 
like you had to be like so 

799
00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:11,700
careful. 
Not to cross that line into like

800
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:14,900
over threshold because that's 
where you're going to start 

801
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,100
crashing and burning. 
And I feel like I did a pretty 

802
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:22,600
good job of that. 
Again, this was not like a huge 

803
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,200
race so I ended up actually 
leading the race most of the 

804
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,400
race like men and women. 
And I knew that there was this 

805
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:37,400
teenager somewhere behind me but
I hadn't heard him behind me for

806
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,700
probably like the last. 
I don't know two miles and the 

807
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:45,300
race finished like in the same 
grassy field. 

808
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,100
So as I came around In the 
corner for maybe like the last 

809
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:53,500
100 meters. 
This kids for ended past me and 

810
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:59,900
I lost the overall race lead by 
like tear seconds now that's but

811
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,100
you know if I'm gonna lose to 
someone I think getting beat by 

812
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:05,800
a like a teenage boys. 
Okay. 

813
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,400
Probably it made his. 
Yeah yeah. 

814
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,600
Always remember the other 
definitely but like that race 

815
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,000
was a good confirmation for me. 
And I'm like, okay, I've learned

816
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,400
how to listen to my body. 
Again, I don't need to like be 

817
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,100
dependent on my watch. 
I got over this cold and like, 

818
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,000
got back to training, I'm 
feeling good. 

819
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:34,500
So I kind of like that one race 
a month for most of last year. 

820
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,600
Seon Joon, I did a 5k. 
Same thing, like, like all the 

821
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Reese's I did last year were 
hilly which it's hard to find a 

822
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,300
flat race around here, just 
because Connecticut, so hilly. 

823
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:52,100
And this 5K was a I had done the
same race last year and it 

824
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:54,400
starts out. 
The first smile is like 

825
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,300
completely downhill. 
The second mile is pretty flat 

826
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:03,000
and then the third mile, of 
course, is all uphill and maybe 

827
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,600
like the last less than half 
mile, you finish slightly 

828
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,900
downhill again. 
So the first year I did like I 

829
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,000
just paste it wrong, you know? 
Because you think you don't want

830
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,500
to go out too fast. 
Send a 5k, right? 

831
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,000
But because it's all downhill 
you actually have to be like 

832
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,700
significantly faster in that 
mild than like, what your goal 

833
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:31,100
average pace is right. 
So, I kind of looked at, you 

834
00:52:31,108 --> 00:52:36,300
know, Strava is such a nice tool
for like, reconning, erase that 

835
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:38,800
you're going to do because you 
can look at what other people 

836
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,900
have done. 
Like, oh, this guy won last year

837
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:44,800
and here's how he pasted. 
So I looked at a bunch of like 

838
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,700
the top Runners and it's like, 
okay. 

839
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,900
The top people, their first mile
was like 20 seconds per mile 

840
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:56,300
faster than their average pace. 
I was like that's what I'm going

841
00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:59,000
to do, you know? 
And like you have to have like a

842
00:52:59,008 --> 00:53:01,300
lot of confidence to do that, 
right? 

843
00:53:01,300 --> 00:53:04,000
Because you're going to die. 
If it doesn't work out, 

844
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,500
especially in a 5K in a 5k, 20 
seconds faster, that seems so 

845
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:13,500
scared. 
But that's when, you know, I was

846
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:17,300
like, I'm gonna do it, you know,
if it doesn't work out then, You

847
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:19,500
Know lesson learned it's just a 
local race. 

848
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:23,900
So like I was basically trying 
to average like six minute pace 

849
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:28,300
for this race. 
So I went out and you know got 

850
00:53:28,300 --> 00:53:32,000
on the downhill part went 
through mile one like I think it

851
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,600
was right on 540, I'm like, oh 
gosh, here we go. 

852
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,300
You know. 
And, you know, Second Mile, it's

853
00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:42,300
like just stick with effort, you
know, you know you're gold 

854
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:45,100
pieces but just stick with your 
effort. 

855
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,100
Second Mile, right. 
It at six minute. 

856
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:52,300
It's like, all right, moment of 
truth, third mile. 

857
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,200
What can you do on this hill? 
And you know, at that point, 

858
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,800
you're dying, right? 
It's the third mile of a 5k. 

859
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:05,300
So I just pushed and and I think
the third mile was like 618 or 

860
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:09,200
something. 
So like I paste it exactly how I

861
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,300
had planned. 
And I ended up winning again, it

862
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:17,900
was like a small race so but I 
was so happy with just Like I 

863
00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:22,900
had a plan, I executed it, it 
sounded scary especially like 

864
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:29,200
the going out so fast part but 
the effort felt even you know as

865
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,500
it even has like a 5k effort can
feel but like that first mile 

866
00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:39,500
didn't feel like I was going out
so fast that I like blew myself 

867
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:45,500
up too early so that definitely 
taught me a lot about like okay.

868
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:49,600
If I am doing a Hillary Grace. 
How much faster am I going to be

869
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,400
on the downhill versus the 
uphill? 

870
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:53,400
So that's different for 
everybody. 

871
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,100
It depends on like you're 
running style like your specific

872
00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:59,600
strength. 
But I've always found that for 

873
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,300
whatever reason, this is since I
was like younger, but I can run 

874
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:06,500
downhill really well, which I 
don't know why I just kind of 

875
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,000
let go and let gravity do the 
work. 

876
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:16,700
So I know that I can run faster 
potentially downhill than like, 

877
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:21,400
What pacing would suggest. 
So I just have to plan races 

878
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,900
like that. 
So I know to use my strengths 

879
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:31,900
and that race took me into this 
firecracker on that I have done 

880
00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:36,600
for the past several years. 
It's like in the town that I do 

881
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,700
all of my runs and I live right 
on the border of Two Towns and 

882
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:44,900
it gets like a bigger field and 
you know ever since I started 

883
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:48,400
running again, it's like oh It 
would be cool to win this race, 

884
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,700
but like that's never going to 
happen because really fast 

885
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:54,800
people show up. 
But like again, like training 

886
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,200
was going well, like feel like 
fitter than ever. 

887
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:05,700
I just got in a pair of alpha 
flies off of flies The 

888
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:09,900
Originals. 
So again, like I've run on this 

889
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:12,100
course, like a million times, 
right? 

890
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:17,200
Just in, like my everyday run. 
So I literally know like Every 

891
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,700
meter of the course, I know 
where the hills going to start 

892
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:24,100
and I know like all the tangents
like everything. 

893
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:29,400
So, this course it has like a 
little Hill like up and down in 

894
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,500
the first mile and then the 
second mile is actually the most

895
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:36,700
climbing, the third Mi kind of 
downhill. 

896
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:42,000
The fourth mile has like a 
little climate and then the 

897
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,300
fifth mile has that like, same 
up and down just in the other 

898
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:49,100
direction and Then the Finish is
like slightly downhill. 

899
00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:54,100
So like I knew again, like, 
okay, the first Mi going to be 

900
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,700
about on Pace, the Second Mile 
needs to be slower because it's 

901
00:56:57,700 --> 00:56:59,900
uphill. 
The third miles going to be a 

902
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:02,000
little faster because it's not 
downhill. 

903
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:06,300
And then the fourth and fifth 
miles, you've just got a you 

904
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:08,900
know use what you've got left to
finish. 

905
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:14,400
So you know this fast woman 
showed up and I was like okay 

906
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,700
like she I think she had gotten 
second in that. 

907
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,300
Cited earlier in the air. 
It's like, alright. 

908
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:22,000
I'm not going to try to stay 
with her because that would be 

909
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,700
dumb. 
So gun goes off, I go out at my 

910
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:28,800
Pace. 
We're like right next to each 

911
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,300
other. 
Like, all right, so we go over 

912
00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:33,200
the first Hill and come back 
down. 

913
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:37,200
It's a little faster like 10 
seconds faster than I had 

914
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,200
planned like. 
Okay, you know, be smart, don't 

915
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,000
be dumb. 
So she was definitely pushing 

916
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,600
it. 
So I was like, not going to do. 

917
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,100
This, I'm going to run my race, 
I'm going to let her go. 

918
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:55,700
So I backed off a little bit and
just ran like my effort on this 

919
00:57:55,700 --> 00:58:01,500
like second hilly Mile. 
And, you know, I could see her, 

920
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:04,900
but she wasn't really putting 
any more time on me. 

921
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:08,500
She did mostly put time on me 
on, like, the flatter section 

922
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:13,100
leading up to the hill and then 
I caught her, by the end of the 

923
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:15,500
third mile. 
Because again, like I was just 

924
00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:19,300
running based on And I could 
definitely tell that she had 

925
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:25,000
like really pushed that hill but
then maybe had pushed a little 

926
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,800
too hard. 
So I caught her and I passed 

927
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,000
her. 
I was like, you can't look back.

928
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,400
You can't. 
Thank you just have to run and 

929
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,100
like you know, when you're in a 
race and you're like if this is 

930
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:39,600
going to go well I have to 
completely shut my brain off so 

931
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,000
that like I do not pay attention
to the pain that I'm going to 

932
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,000
experience in a minute that is 
what I'm more. 

933
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,900
You think the Worst exactly. 
Yeah. 

934
00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:51,400
I was like you have to stop 
thinking otherwise you're just 

935
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,100
going to die. 
So that's what I did. 

936
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:57,200
I ended up beating her violate 
30 seconds. 

937
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:03,100
I think big like PR for both the
distance and I think I was three

938
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:07,700
minutes faster than 20 21 and 
one year. 

939
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Yeah but like that was it's you.
That's the difference was like 

940
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,800
in 2021, I had come off of a 
marathon. 

941
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,900
Bird. 
And then my coach had me, start 

942
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:21,600
Speed work. 
Like I had done so little 

943
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:29,300
threshold between like may, you 
know, like may-june to the start

944
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:35,800
of July, your can't do a 5-mile 
race based on doing like to 

945
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:40,200
hundreds and for hundreds at, 
like, mile Pace that just 

946
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,900
doesn't work. 
Whereas that is not ready for 

947
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:46,600
know, you have to have a button,
you know what you're doing. 

948
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:51,400
What you're asking for. 
So yeah, so obviously taking the

949
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:54,600
my strategy in 2022. 
Worked a whole lot better. 

950
00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:59,500
So after that it was like, 
alright, it's time to kind of 

951
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:03,700
not shut down, but like I'm 
doing a marathon in December. 

952
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:05,500
I was signed up for the Kiowa 
marathon. 

953
01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:08,900
It's like, I've been training 
for seven months. 

954
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,500
It's time to back off a little 
bit. 

955
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:19,700
So it was basically, like less 
Intensity, but not like a lot 

956
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:22,900
less mileage but like enough, 
we're like, I definitely felt 

957
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:27,700
like I recovered. 
And then like, kind of my first 

958
01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:31,100
like checkpoint was a 10-mile 
race. 

959
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,300
I think it was Labor Day 
weekend. 

960
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:40,200
Yeah again like super hilly. 
You know just had a overall Pace

961
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,400
goal in mind. 
I knew like my Mi splits, we're 

962
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,600
going to be all over the place 
because of how Hill This course 

963
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,800
was but it was actually nice in 
this race. 

964
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,100
Was I actually had a group to 
run with there were like maybe 

965
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:55,100
five guys. 
I was running with the first 

966
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:57,500
half of the race. 
It was interesting because 

967
01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:00,800
you're I could tell that like 
one of them, he was using it as 

968
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,600
like a marathon pace. 
Run because, no matter, if we 

969
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,400
were on like a hill uphill 
downhill flat, he was running 

970
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,800
the same pace and it's like 
either he's like sandbagging or 

971
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,300
he's going to die or he's just 
you know years. 

972
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,600
Seeing this as a workout. 
And this actually isn't that 

973
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,300
hard for him and it didn't turn 
out to be the case that he was 

974
01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:23,200
just like doing it as like a 
Tempo, not a race. 

975
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:29,300
But like I was really trying to 
run by feel so I would you know,

976
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:32,900
lose a little ground on these 
guys on the uphill and then I'd 

977
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:35,800
immediately come back to them on
the downhill because like I was 

978
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:41,900
trying not to like Spike on 
every little Hill and then like 

979
01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:45,100
almost the climbing was in the 
second half of the race. 

980
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:49,800
So, you know, I let a few of 
those guys go, then I cut a 

981
01:01:49,808 --> 01:01:55,200
couple of them towards the end 
and again like, you know, PR at 

982
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,500
that distance, like really happy
with like the pace based on how 

983
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:05,300
hilly it was sewn, just went 
into marathon training feeling 

984
01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:11,200
really, confident, feeling good,
like all year and no injuries 

985
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:17,100
like no little nagging things. 
I Have really good PT friends 

986
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,400
that I used to work with. 
If I ever if I feel like oh, you

987
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,000
know, something's a little off 
if I can't fix it myself I just 

988
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:31,800
go see them. 
Like I really try to I really 

989
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,500
tried to like nip these things 
in the bud. 

990
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,700
If like I feel a little nagging 
thing like just go get a treated

991
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:42,700
work on my mechanics a little. 
So I don't let it turn into a 

992
01:02:42,700 --> 01:02:47,200
bigger thing. 
So I had a couple months, no 

993
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,400
races. 
I was supposed to do a 10-mile 

994
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,800
race at the beginning of 
November. 

995
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,300
Same thing, I got a cold the 
week before and it's like 

996
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,800
there's no way I'm going to 
force myself to do re sick, you 

997
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,400
know. 
Five weeks out from a marathon 

998
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,400
that just doesn't make sense. 
Like, I've done a lot of work, 

999
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,200
I'm fed, like just get healthy 
and get back to training. 

1000
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:15,100
So, I skipped that race and all 
of marathon training. 

1001
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,900
I was testing out different 
shoes, trying to decide which 

1002
01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:21,500
ones to use. 
I was really going back and 

1003
01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:26,900
forth between the original Alpha
fly and the Endorphin Pro 3, I 

1004
01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:30,900
loved the alpha fly firm that 
5-mile race I did. 

1005
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,300
In and I was going to use it for
the 10-mile race I did. 

1006
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:40,700
But the pair that I had then 
during a workout this part of 

1007
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:46,200
the sole peeled off and I had to
stop and like peel the rest of 

1008
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,200
it off because it was just like 
hanging there. 

1009
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,800
So I didn't have Alpha flies for
the 10-mile race and it also 

1010
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,800
kind of made me a question. 
Like do I want to take the risk 

1011
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:03,100
of that happening in a marathon?
I don't know about. 

1012
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,900
Is this ever happens to people 
that like they are pods? 

1013
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:09,800
Also make me a little nervous 
with the alpha flies like how 

1014
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,500
fragile our they have you ever 
heard of anyone having issues? 

1015
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:17,100
Yeah. 
So I've heard of like a few 

1016
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:22,600
people have said that they liked
the out, the outside part of the

1017
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,700
heel peeled off. 
Yeah, and then also the week, 

1018
01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:28,500
leading up to see, I am for me, 
I have been breaking in my pair 

1019
01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:33,100
of Alpha Phi is that I was going
to race in And they started 

1020
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:37,900
squeaking every step during 
during the workout. 

1021
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:40,900
Like, oh my gosh, like, this is 
gonna drive me crazy. 

1022
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:42,900
And anyone that I'm running with
you wrong with me. 

1023
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:49,900
So I had another pair, but I ask
somebody when at Sea, I am, if 

1024
01:04:49,900 --> 01:04:54,900
they could take a look and they 
looked like it was somebody that

1025
01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:57,800
like worked for work for Nike, I
had them, look at it and they 

1026
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,100
showed like in the air bubble, 
it had like a little like An 

1027
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,200
extra bubble inside of it and 
they were like, as soon as that 

1028
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,200
contacts are getting the squeak.
So they were like, we can like, 

1029
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,300
put something underneath anyway,
but they ended up fixing it and 

1030
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:12,800
it wasn't like squeaking. 
But yeah, the air the air bubble

1031
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,200
like if that started during 
yeah, he's I lost my money. 

1032
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,100
So that's why I didn't use the 
alpha fly. 

1033
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,700
And I had used the Endorphin Pro
3 in the 10-mile race and just 

1034
01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:31,900
loved it like it was awesome. 
So I decided I was going to race

1035
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:36,000
in that and the pair I had to 
run in all your head, too many 

1036
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,400
miles on it. 
I could just definitely feel 

1037
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,200
like the responsiveness was 
going down. 

1038
01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:46,400
So maybe a month before the 
marathon, I ordered a new pair. 

1039
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:54,600
It was these this is their visit
Pro colorway and they came with 

1040
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:59,500
different laces, then all of the
other endorphin groceries, 

1041
01:05:59,500 --> 01:06:04,300
there, these Rope laces and just
a warning. 

1042
01:06:04,300 --> 01:06:08,100
To anyone who buys this 
colorway, the row places are not

1043
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:12,400
as comfortable as normal voices.
So I swapped them out. 

1044
01:06:12,700 --> 01:06:16,900
So just be aware if you love 
this color like I do, which is 

1045
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:20,300
why I got them, you might not 
love the laces that come with 

1046
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:23,400
them so don't be afraid to swap 
them out. 

1047
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:27,900
So anyway, I was really 
confident in the Endorphin Pro 3

1048
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:31,800
going into the marathon because 
I had raced in them. 

1049
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,600
I had done so many workouts in 
them. 

1050
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:39,800
Long runs like no foot 
discomfort, no issues in the 

1051
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,900
rain. 
Like just really confident that 

1052
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:48,400
they would be comfortable and I 
get to Kiowa and I was staying 

1053
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,600
with family on the island and 
they're like, guess what? 

1054
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,100
They repaved. 
All of the roads ahead of the 

1055
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,200
race. 
It wasn't fresh blacktop, I was 

1056
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,300
like, that's awesome. 
Because the roads there were 

1057
01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:06,900
getting a little like torn up. 
So it rained all night before 

1058
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:12,700
the race and when I got dropped 
off to the starting line, just 

1059
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:18,500
walking towards the start area. 
My feet were slipping and I was 

1060
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:23,600
like, oh no, like what is going 
on, but you know, how, like, 

1061
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,400
fresh blacktop can be really 
oily when it's, when I think 

1062
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,600
that's what the problem was. 
So You know, the restarted, I 

1063
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,100
had my grace plan, like not 
going out to your fast like 

1064
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:41,500
staying on pasting focused and I
felt amazing, like, I was right 

1065
01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:44,200
on Pace. 
My heart rate was like a little 

1066
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,700
bit lower than I had expected. 
Like I was barely breathing 

1067
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:51,600
hard, I felt so good and I was 
like, alright, just stay calm. 

1068
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,600
Like it's early, don't get 
excited. 

1069
01:07:55,100 --> 01:08:00,700
And by like mile 13, like I 
definitely felt my Strings in my

1070
01:08:00,700 --> 01:08:04,200
calves starting to tighten up. 
I was like alright it's fine, 

1071
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,000
you know you're halfway or going
to get feel tired but then like 

1072
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,300
each mile is just like slowing 
down and like, you know that 

1073
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:15,300
feeling were like you're not 
trying to slow down but your 

1074
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:18,399
body is just slowing you down. 
It got to the point where like 

1075
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:22,000
my legs just felt like, you 
know, like cement. 

1076
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,100
So I was like, all right. 
You're going to walk for 30 

1077
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:28,700
seconds so I did and like 
walking felt worse than running 

1078
01:08:28,700 --> 01:08:33,300
because of like how tight My 
calves had gotten so like I went

1079
01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:37,399
back and forth like this for a 
few miles and it was like this 

1080
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:41,500
is just not worth it. 
Like if walking makes me feel 

1081
01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:47,600
worse, like I'm going to have to
like jog walk, the next like 

1082
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:51,600
eight miles and what is that 
going to do to my body? 

1083
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,399
And how long is it going to take
me to recover from it? 

1084
01:08:54,500 --> 01:08:57,300
I knew that I could make myself 
do that. 

1085
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,800
But like, why you You know, 
like, I didn't need to prove to 

1086
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,899
myself that I could finish a 
marathon because I know, I can 

1087
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,399
like I didn't need to prove to 
my family that I could do it 

1088
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,800
because they know I can. 
It's like, why would I torture 

1089
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,399
myself for another like over an 
hour? 

1090
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:23,200
Just to say that I did it and 
like, I really, really hate 

1091
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,200
dropping out of races. 
Like I've dropped out of some 

1092
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,000
cycling races because of 
injuries or, you know, just 

1093
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:34,100
Feeling well and every time it's
like it's so disappointing that 

1094
01:09:34,700 --> 01:09:40,100
that happened, you know? 
And it's like after, like, 

1095
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:43,300
probably the like fifth or sixth
time, I walked and my calves 

1096
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:46,000
felt worse. 
I was like, no, I'm like I'm not

1097
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,399
doing this to my body. 
Like I just have to stop and be 

1098
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:53,800
okay with it. 
So, yeah point, I feel like the 

1099
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,100
way that you like, but you just 
said, like, the way you felt at 

1100
01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:00,000
the start, you knew I'd like the
taper. 

1101
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:04,400
The training like everything was
perfect and was working because 

1102
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,800
nothing should feel right. 
Start. 

1103
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:10,400
And then if you like, if you had
say, you had pushed through 

1104
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,200
that, you don't know how long 
you would have had to take off. 

1105
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,500
Exactly. 
You lose some of that Fitness 

1106
01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:16,700
like now it's it's all still 
there. 

1107
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:18,300
Right? 
Who's those months of training? 

1108
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:21,800
Yeah, I didn't have to take like
two weeks off of running 

1109
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,400
afterwards because I had 
destroyed my legs. 

1110
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,000
You know, like I took four days 
off of running and then started 

1111
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,000
doing like some really short 
easier. 

1112
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,800
Again, you know, like a 
definitely kept me from getting 

1113
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,600
injured for sure, but it also 
kept me from needing to take 

1114
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,800
like, extended time off because 
of what I did not only to my 

1115
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:46,000
body, but like what it does to 
you mentally to like make 

1116
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,000
yourself, do something like 
that. 

1117
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:51,600
It can be worth it depending on 
the situation, right? 

1118
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,900
Like there are some races where 
it is worth it like basically, 

1119
01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:59,700
mentally, torture yourself and 
I've definitely done that in 

1120
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:03,600
many. 
Bike races, but it just didn't, 

1121
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,600
it wasn't worth it, to do that 
to myself in this race. 

1122
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:11,400
So I, I just made the decision 
to stop and I'm glad that I did 

1123
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,500
like, what would I? 
I didn't have to prove anything,

1124
01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:18,200
right? 
It like it was just it was time 

1125
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,400
to pull the plug and start over.
So that's what I did. 

1126
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:27,300
That's probably one of like the 
toughest decisions as a runner 

1127
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:31,100
to make, but the like with it 
The hardest decision is 

1128
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:32,800
sometimes like the right 
decision, right? 

1129
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,800
Yeah. 
Like now you can like your eyes 

1130
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,300
can be ahead to the next thing. 
You don't have to deal with like

1131
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,000
coming back from that was just 
like, like you could probably 

1132
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,300
look at it as like a really 
intense longer. 

1133
01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:46,300
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1134
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,300
I mean, yeah, it was still good 
workout, right until like my 

1135
01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:52,000
legs shut down. 
So, you know, I think it was 

1136
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,200
definitely combination of like 
my feet slipping a little bit 

1137
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,300
and that just changing like, how
I was using my muscles and, you 

1138
01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:03,700
know, maybe See, I just had a 
bad day, too, like everyone can 

1139
01:12:03,700 --> 01:12:05,800
feel good the first half of a 
marathon. 

1140
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,500
It's the second half that 
counts. 

1141
01:12:07,900 --> 01:12:12,200
So and I'm definitely not like 
holy blaming like my shoes for 

1142
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,300
my batteries, right? 
Like it's certainly possible to 

1143
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:21,400
just have a bad day but yeah, 
I'm I am still glad that I made 

1144
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,700
the decision that I did because 
I don't think it would have been

1145
01:12:24,700 --> 01:12:28,400
good physically or mentally to 
push through all of that. 

1146
01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:34,300
And And having a bad race like 
that definitely gives you fire 

1147
01:12:34,300 --> 01:12:39,000
for your next race. 
And it has convinced me that it 

1148
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:44,100
is worth it to train for a, you 
know, Springs that /summer 

1149
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:47,200
Marathon. 
So my friend and I decided to 

1150
01:12:47,208 --> 01:12:50,700
sign up for grandmas and June. 
Yeah. 

1151
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,200
Something up for that one. 
Yeah. 

1152
01:12:52,300 --> 01:12:55,000
Only fun. 
It will be fun. 

1153
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,300
Yeah. 
So yeah, you know what I would 

1154
01:12:59,300 --> 01:13:03,700
say that I And from last year 
like it's almost all of the year

1155
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:09,500
was good and then ended by like 
a batteries but like I'm 39 I'm 

1156
01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:11,000
going to be 40 in a couple 
months. 

1157
01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:15,500
Like I had my best year as a 
runner last year and like I have

1158
01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:20,500
no doubt that I can still 
improve so having that knowledge

1159
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:22,600
definitely gives me a lot of 
motivation. 

1160
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,300
And like I love seeing all of 
the women who are like even 

1161
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:29,500
older than me who are still 
running like their fastest 

1162
01:13:29,500 --> 01:13:31,900
times. 
Like, I read an article about a 

1163
01:13:31,908 --> 01:13:35,600
woman in New York City, whose 
like in her late 40s, running 

1164
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,800
her fastest marathons ever, you 
know, like it's never, it's 

1165
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:46,500
never too late to, like find 
something to improve it, you 

1166
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:51,400
know. 
So I'm like super motivated to 

1167
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,700
see just what I can do this year
and next year and five years 

1168
01:13:55,700 --> 01:14:00,600
from now, you know, I also 
learned Like, even though I was 

1169
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,700
pretty much injury-free last 
year, it definitely taught me 

1170
01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:08,100
that like I need to pay more 
attention to my weak points. 

1171
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:12,600
And for me, probably my weakest 
point is my left ankle which I 

1172
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,700
had early bad sprain on a few 
years ago and I've always been 

1173
01:14:16,700 --> 01:14:20,000
good about doing like strength 
work and Bounds work. 

1174
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,500
But I was like, you know what, 
it's not enough because I still 

1175
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:27,700
have this issue of like Landing 
too far laterally on that foot 

1176
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:31,000
and sometimes it causes some 
comforter on my fifth MTP. 

1177
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,700
So I was like, what else can you
do to help it. 

1178
01:14:33,700 --> 01:14:39,000
So I decided to finally, after 
my friend, telling me how great 

1179
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,800
hers is for six months. 
Get a mobo board. 

1180
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:44,900
Do you use one of those? 
Yeah, they're fantastic. 

1181
01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:47,900
They used to have one when I was
working at the running clinic in

1182
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:49,300
New York. 
Yeah they're great it's actually

1183
01:14:49,300 --> 01:14:51,900
move on like the plain of your 
ankle joint. 

1184
01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:54,600
Exactly. 
Looking like last week to try to

1185
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,200
buy enough young and they're not
that expensive. 

1186
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,200
I think they're like $80 like 
Compare that to like a bosu. 

1187
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:06,000
We're like other balance tools, 
it's really a good deal but like

1188
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,300
for me so much with them to have
my gosh. 

1189
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:10,700
Yeah, your couldn't do so many 
exercises on them. 

1190
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,000
But for people who don't know, 
the mobile board has like a 

1191
01:15:14,008 --> 01:15:18,800
cutout for your small toes. 
So really teaches you when 

1192
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:24,000
you're standing on one leg to 
drive with your big toe and to 

1193
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,800
load that part of your foot. 
And that's exactly what I have 

1194
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,300
had trouble with since Die. 
Well, probably before I sprained

1195
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:33,200
my ankle, which is why I 
sprained it. 

1196
01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:37,800
But I just haven't done a good 
job of like really loading. 

1197
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:42,700
My first MTP joint and I swear 
after two weeks of using this 

1198
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:45,400
thing, my foot feels totally 
different when I run. 

1199
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:49,100
I see the difference in like the
running Dynamics data, I get 

1200
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:53,500
from my heart rate monitor and 
just in how I feel. 

1201
01:15:53,900 --> 01:15:59,100
So like it's easy to think that 
like you're doing everything you

1202
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:01,800
can. 
Turn, you know, keep yourself 

1203
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,800
healthy and improve your running
but sometimes there's more that 

1204
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,500
you could do, or maybe there's 
something that would be better. 

1205
01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:12,400
That you can do that. 
Can help you improve or help you

1206
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,700
be a better Runner. 
I think the other big lesson 

1207
01:16:16,700 --> 01:16:19,800
that I learned from last year 
is, you know, I'm really 

1208
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,300
grateful to the coach that I had
in 21 because she gave me the 

1209
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:28,000
confidence to, like, run a 
marathon which I hadn't done 

1210
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:29,700
since I was in college. 
College. 

1211
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,000
But, you know, I started saying 
that, like, you know, her method

1212
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,400
just wasn't working for me. 
I talked to her about it and, 

1213
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,300
but, you know, everybody kind of
has their way of doing things 

1214
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:47,300
and some coaches are better at 
like adapting to each individual

1215
01:16:47,300 --> 01:16:51,000
Runners needs than others. 
And, you know, when I saw that 

1216
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:54,400
it just wasn't working. 
Maybe I should have switched 

1217
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,600
coaches or approaches sooner but
at least I did it. 

1218
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:02,300
And, you know, I've seen, Much 
better results this year than 

1219
01:17:02,500 --> 01:17:06,400
their previous. 
So I would really encourage 

1220
01:17:06,500 --> 01:17:10,300
anyone who feels like maybe 
their training just doesn't 

1221
01:17:10,300 --> 01:17:17,700
align with like their body's way
of improving, talk to your coach

1222
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:21,500
and you know, if it's still not 
working, maybe it's time for a 

1223
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:25,300
change. 
It's okay to change approaches. 

1224
01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:27,400
What worked for your five years 
ago? 

1225
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,000
Maybe won't doesn't work for 
you. 

1226
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,500
Now that That you're a different
Runner. 

1227
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,300
Yeah, completely agree with 
that. 

1228
01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:37,900
And similar for me, I am very 
grateful to like the coach that 

1229
01:17:37,900 --> 01:17:39,900
I had from. 
I think I started with them to 

1230
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:45,700
2019 up to 20 21, but they, 
like, reintroduced me to running

1231
01:17:45,700 --> 01:17:48,600
and showed me that like, like my
eyes. 

1232
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,300
Like, as soon as I was done with
college was like, okay, well, 

1233
01:17:51,300 --> 01:17:56,100
that's it for the track of them.
See ya, but he re opened my eyes

1234
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:59,300
to like oh no, you can keep 
working and you can keep going. 

1235
01:18:00,900 --> 01:18:03,200
Like towards a PR's and and 
more. 

1236
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,300
But like he would said, I mean, 
that's 34 years, that's a big 

1237
01:18:07,300 --> 01:18:10,200
three or four years and my body 
changed, it wasn't working for 

1238
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,300
me anymore. 
So being able to like what you 

1239
01:18:13,300 --> 01:18:16,700
said, re-evaluate and see what's
best for you for your body for 

1240
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:19,400
your training, and then 
following that. 

1241
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:22,200
Yeah, yeah. 
That's that's key. 

1242
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:26,400
Like if every Runner room listen
to that, I think people would be

1243
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,400
in a better place for sure. 
So what's coming up for 23 

1244
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:36,300
Megan? 
Well, let's see, so I had signed

1245
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:41,500
up for Jersey, City Marathon, 
and I don't think I'm going to 

1246
01:18:41,508 --> 01:18:46,100
be doing that because like I had
said and see, I am, I that hip 

1247
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:49,300
pain started coming back. 
So I've been taking some time 

1248
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,400
off. 
Making sure I actually get back 

1249
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,400
into training without being 
rushed into it. 

1250
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,600
Like, like, I did for Seattle, 
which worked out, but I don't 

1251
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:58,900
really want to do that again, 
right? 

1252
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:02,700
So I'm probably not going to do 
that, but I have that in my back

1253
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:06,400
pocket, if It does work out and 
then I have Grandma's in June 

1254
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:11,700
and then in the fall I'm trying 
to decide between either Chicago

1255
01:19:11,700 --> 01:19:16,300
or see I am again but I love. 
See I am I'm like I know the 

1256
01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:20,800
course, it's just a great race. 
So I probably like probably 

1257
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,100
gonna go see I am but we'll see 
you in a few scattered in 

1258
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:27,200
between there. 
Just to again get back into 

1259
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,900
racing and because now it's been
a few months already. 

1260
01:19:29,900 --> 01:19:36,200
But what about you Grandma's? 
And then like just a few races 

1261
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:41,100
between now and then to build 
into it, like a 10K, a half, and

1262
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:45,200
then grandma's and then I'll 
have to figure out what I want 

1263
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,300
to do. 
I'm not sure. 

1264
01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:52,400
I'm a to Marathon a year person.
So maybe focusing in the fall on

1265
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:57,700
like a fast half or something, 
but right now, I definitely have

1266
01:19:57,700 --> 01:20:02,200
a lot of drive to have a good 
race in June. 

1267
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,300
Yeah, actually it's something 
that just reminded me something 

1268
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,400
that I had been thinking of its 
with all this biking and I was 

1269
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,800
going to ask you. 
Yes, definitely. 

1270
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,800
But like trying to find like an 
actual bike race and see like if

1271
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,900
that's something I could do, 
I'll have lots of suggestions 

1272
01:20:17,900 --> 01:20:25,600
redrawn to look out. 
More suggestions are coming. 

1273
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:31,000
Yes animals will do well, this 
was so great Megan to just to 

1274
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,600
recap our years. 
And I hope that You our 

1275
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,200
listeners learned some things 
from us. 

1276
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,100
I think, you know, Runners don't
always talk about like in-depth 

1277
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:43,300
their Reflections on their ear 
and like we can learn so much 

1278
01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:46,300
from each other. 
So, I hope that you guys learn 

1279
01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:50,700
something from our experiences 
the past year as always. 

1280
01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:53,500
Please leave us a comment on 
YouTube. 

1281
01:20:53,500 --> 01:20:56,400
Send us an email. 
It's doctors of running at 

1282
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,200
gmail.com. 
There's anything, you'd love 

1283
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,800
Megan and I to cover in the 
future, let us know. 

1284
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,500
We love to hear from you guys. 
Thank you. 

1285
01:21:05,500 --> 01:21:07,000
All right, thanks Megan.
