1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,520 There was multiple typhoons and cyclones. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,440 Wow. There's a whole weather front 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:10,000 coming in. This week on that car show, 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,880 Danny P is back and he's on fire. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,680 I drive a very special Porsche 9/11 R and an even more special 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,000 Alcoholics GTA R Lindsay gets behind the wheel of both the new 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,320 Toyota Land Cruiser and it's upscale sibling, the Lexus 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,560 GX550. And Dan writes A heavily edited 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,000 magazine article and takes a Spyder Rs to Radwood plus the 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,520 $1,000,000 Ferrari Luche. Our thoughts on that Ducktail, 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,960 the GT3. We share our That Car Show Car 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,560 Week auction preview and we revisit a little segment we call 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,200 if we Ran Porsche. This is a fun one. 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,640 The gang is all here and it's that car show. 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 So welcome to this week's That Car show. 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,360 And in a week where one car manufacturer lost 60% of its 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,080 share value because of potential bankruptcy, where Porsche were 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,880 down 21% year on year in car sales and Polestar have had to 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,200 issue a fire sale, it's our job to bring a ray of sunshine to 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,520 everyone's everyone's lives. So it's not quite as bad as it 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,320 kind of I doubt to be, but how are we doing guys? 22 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,600 So happy to see you both and happy to be here. 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,640 How about you guys? How about them cars? 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Right. Look at them here. 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Good news. Support you, Larry, is that 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,360 they're actually up 19 percent on 9 elevens. 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,640 You're on you. So it's not all, you know, 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,800 whatever the right word is, it's not all doom and gloom. 29 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:43,840 It's not all take hands and loose A's. 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Yeah. What have we been up to? 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,600 Maybe I'll start because it's been a while. 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,320 Yes. I went to Radwood, Radwood in 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,840 the Pacific Northwest. So I don't know if you guys, you 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,600 guys are familiar, right? This is the 80s and 90s event 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,880 that is owned now by Haggerty. Yeah, right. 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Friend of the show Art runs it and it was at Griot's Garage 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,760 which is down in Tacoma. My good friend Jeff Jones picked 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,800 me up in his Spider Rs and we created. 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,880 That car, by the way, that's like, that's a very good example 40 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:22,200 of a Spider Rs Jeff, so. Why, it's even more so. 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,840 He probably should kill me for saying this. 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:29,240 So he's upgraded to stereo, he's got a new exhaust coming, and 43 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,720 then maybe something soon happening to the cosmetics of 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,960 the car, but I won't give too much. 45 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,120 Away. OK, so watch this space, Yeah, 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,120 for Jeff's updates. Huh. 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Yeah, it's becoming coming the most loved spinner Iris there 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,040 is, I think on the market. But yeah, he's got some smart 49 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,840 ideas for cosmetics. Taking a note out of the STS 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,440 book, but I won't give any more away because that's now that 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,720 car. I don't know if you guys have 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,600 been in that car, but it has the air intakes by your ears. 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,200 So either side of the the engine gets fed with air right by your 54 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,120 right ear of your passenger or your left ear if you're if 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,680 you're the driver and it makes some great noises. 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:13,040 So, so it was fun cruising down in that right. 57 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,760 There was no parking because it was all all full for 80s and 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,680 90s. So we had to like do a bit of a 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,360 shortcut and, and find some parking. 60 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,800 What sort of stuff would you expect to see at 80s and 90s? 61 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,040 And I'll let you know if it was there. 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:34,640 Deloreans. 30M Threes. Yes, lots of E30M threes. 63 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,760 And what's the what are the M5 of that era? 64 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,920 I don't know the 28 E 28. There you go. 65 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,560 E 28. Yes, there was E 28. 66 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,760 I don't think I even know what a did you say Riata or Miata? 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,760 Yeah, the Buick Riata, when I went the first time to Rabbit, 68 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,880 there were like 4 of them. And I mean, that must be a a 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,760 huge percentage of the Riata's still on the road. 70 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Surviving, yeah. I'm impressed all these years 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,200 later. Yeah, I wouldn't know whether 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,120 I'd recognise 1, that's probably. 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,400 The US only car, yeah. Yeah, there was, and I don't 74 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,440 think I've ever seen one in North America. 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Do you guys know what the Vauxhall Calibra is? 76 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,800 I don't know if I know model. I feel like I've seen them, but 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,079 I might not have realized that's what it was called. 78 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,400 So this was, if you know the Cavalier, the Vauxhall Cavalier, 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,880 you may know this was the 2 door coupe version and at the time it 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,240 had one of the most coefficient drags of any car and it was one 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,440 of those. But that's amazing. 82 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,880 The one that really stole the show for me. 83 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,960 Winner of the show. You can't go wrong with a white 84 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,600 Testorosa, can you? That's like. 85 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,280 No way. That's amazing. 86 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:45,800 I mean, that is the definition of Radwood, isn't it? 87 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:49,400 Right, right. So that was that was my winner. 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,560 2nd place, very close, was a yellow SAP 900 convertible 89 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,320 turbo. Oh yeah. 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,320 That's those two cars really sum up an era, sort of the beginning 91 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,080 and the end, right of of that, you know, place and time. 92 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,760 So. Yeah, now I know. 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,480 So I have been to Radwood in San Pedro. 94 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,840 I haven't made it to the Pacific Northwest 1 yet. 95 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,480 They always have an SUV section. Were there any of those at this 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,640 one? There there was. 97 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,680 I wouldn't say it was a dedicated section for SUV's. 98 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,280 There was a section for the GMC's. 99 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,720 So they made the Cyclone and what was the other one they 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,880 made? The typhoon. 101 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,480 Typhoon there were there was multiple typhoons and cyclones. 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Wow. There's a whole weather front 103 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,160 coming in at that point. Batten down the hatches, guys. 104 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Red was in. Before I. 105 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,640 I don't think I've ever seen so many in one place, and I think 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,680 there was like 6. Yeah, yeah. 107 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,720 Again, I would imagine that's like a good percentage of the 108 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,800 ones that are left. Right. 109 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,480 Especially in the Pacific Northwest, you know. 110 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Yeah, yeah, that's pretty wild. That's cool. 111 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,360 Were there any like Land Cruisers or Broncos or? 112 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,440 It was a Broncosu. Cheaper. 113 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,640 I saw a Bronco and I don't think I saw any Land Cruisers or you. 114 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Know. It's weird because you get 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,000 selected. They didn't make it the event, 116 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,480 sorry. Yeah, they were camping by the 117 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,120 side of the road. What? 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,400 Was I thinking of in LA that I think there was a sidekick like 119 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,200 a? Suzuki Sidekick. 120 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,560 Suzuki Sidekick. Thank you. 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,840 That's a car that was everywhere. 122 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:25,320 Like I don't know when I was in high school, right? 123 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,280 And it's been years since I've seen one so. 124 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:31,240 They had one at the event in LA and it was like it was such a 125 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,120 blast from the past. Yeah, yeah. 126 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,120 It's funny, I think you look for the cars you want to see, right? 127 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,760 So there was probably like all the cars you've mentioned were 128 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,280 probably. They just didn't register, Yeah. 129 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Yeah. So that was a fun morning, 130 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Saturday morning. And then we went on to the 131 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,160 Lemay, which is the the Car Museum, and they had a German 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,560 event on. Oh, how was that? 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,520 So it, it was good. Lots of porches, as you'd 134 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,480 imagine. It was interesting. 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,880 I don't think, I think I saw 2 Mercedes in a field full of 136 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,320 cars. Kidding. 137 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,240 I just, it's, it was just, you know, people just don't have the 138 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Mercedes up here. Yeah. 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,400 It's. Interesting. 140 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Why do you think that is? I mean, Pacific Northwest is 141 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,560 dominated by Porsches especially because obviously a lot of them 142 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,000 are a wheel drive, but like lots of M twos. 143 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,920 If you guys know far the flywheel, Justin, he was there 144 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,480 with his Rs 6. So there were two Audis as well. 145 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,920 So not many Audis. They were in the minority. 146 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,280 The others were all in for timing belt service. 147 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,320 There we go. There we go. 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,240 But yeah, it was good to see some folks that I hadn't seen 149 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,360 for a while. And yeah, so that was a good, a 150 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,320 good Saturday morning, a good way to kick off. 151 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,680 Yeah, it was. It was good fun. 152 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,600 So how about yourselves, Ryan? I think you've been driving some 153 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:00,600 more rarefied cars, haven't you? I've been yeah. 154 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,880 Our friend Tom Horan let me drive his new 9/11 R, which is 155 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,480 sadly already moving on. But. 156 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,040 But before it does. Incredible coming yeah, in its 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,400 place. But so this is a really special 158 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,960 example, you know, you know, the 9/11 R this was the car that 159 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,600 Porsche came out was supposed to be the last manual Porsche, 160 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,360 right? And it was basically the GT3RS 161 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:31,080 engine of from what 20/14/2015 and effectively a GT3 touring 162 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,679 body before there was such a thing, you know, as the touring 163 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,360 that came along with the dot twos. 164 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:40,760 Many of these cars were were white with red stripes or green 165 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,039 stripes and a lot of silver cars. 166 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:47,200 This was a really special car, not metallic black with black 167 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,200 stripes. And this amazing, I'm going to 168 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,000 forget the name of the the color, but a dark brown interior 169 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,120 with with Papita inserts, just spectacular. 170 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,720 I don't know, but you guys in the 9/11 R was never really a 171 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,720 car on my radar. It I just didn't understand what 172 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,480 people went on and on about this thing, right, Especially after 173 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,400 the the the .2 touring came out. Well, I'm here to tell you that 174 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,840 it is a very special thing. People seem to fall in one or 175 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,120 two camps. People who have driven it 176 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,080 either, yeah, it's kind of like a Touring, but a lot more 177 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,240 expensive or Oh yeah, that's the greatest thing I've ever driven. 178 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,280 And I'm I'm kind of in that second camp. 179 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,520 There's something about it, you know, 500 horsepower. 180 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,400 It's that that Rs engine. It's, you know, it's a manual, 181 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,000 obviously. And it's got this, this really 182 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,200 light flywheel that just gives the car completely different 183 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,760 character. So you do get that rattle at 184 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,160 idle. It was just it it it it felt 185 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,640 like 600 horsepower, right? It just it it felt that much 186 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,040 stronger even than 500 horsepower. 187 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,240 Beautiful thing People who know know. 188 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,480 I don't know if it's worth what they're trading for, especially 189 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,320 in a spec like this right, which is quite a bit more expensive 190 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,360 than your typical white and silver cars, but just a 191 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,840 fantastic experience. It's just, I, I swear that that 192 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,000 model, maybe because it was hand built in the way that the others 193 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,440 weren't, like this was going to be the swan song for Porsche's 194 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,680 manual. That thing is like a vault, even 195 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,120 in a way that other Porsches aren't. 196 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Just just perfect shifting. You know, the, the the engine 197 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,040 was strong, great ride, great sound, just a wonderful, 198 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,400 wonderful thing. Yeah, I'm a fan. 9/11 R Drive 199 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,560 one if you get a chance 'cause they're really wonderful. 200 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,240 Thank heaven for friends who are generous with their keys, right? 201 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,640 I I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, pretty incredible. 202 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,600 If I could afford one, I would buy one. 203 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,800 But last I cannot so. So thank you so much. 204 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,960 Just it's our friend Tom. Absolutely. 205 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,520 And then you get in, you know, yeah, versus the the touring, 206 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:48,440 you know, is it worth, you know, twice as much or whatever? 207 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,720 I, I, I don't know. But it does have its own 208 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,720 character. The the touring is wonderful, 209 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,600 but there's something special about the the 9 elevener. 210 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,920 I guess you get what you pay for, right. 211 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,920 And, and the market sort of figures itself out, yeah. 212 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,440 You know, some of the stuff is they're intangibles, right? 213 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,040 But but they're still worth something. 214 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,000 And you know, any, any modern Porsche really, right? 215 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,520 They're all pretty great, especially with the, the GT 216 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,000 cars, right? It's just, you know, you're 217 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,520 starting to, you know, the, the decreasing returns, right? 218 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:20,280 I mean, once you once you get up there, but yeah, this was really 219 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,600 wonderful. One of the best cars I think 220 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,760 I've I've driven in recent, recent time for sure. 221 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,920 So. You've gotten to drive some 222 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,720 pretty fun stuff lately. So that's that's really saying 223 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,000 something that this has sort of gotten under your skin the way 224 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,840 it sounds like it did well. I'm going to tell you secret. 225 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,480 I drove that car after I drove the Alphaholics GTAR. 226 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Now I've got a piece in Avantz magazine that's coming out in 227 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,880 September, feature on the Alphaholics car. 228 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,760 I've driven this before. It's a wonderful thing. 229 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,960 Probably priced kind of in the same, you know, range as well, 230 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,520 but couldn't be a more different car. 231 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,400 It's awesome. It's special. 232 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,840 I talk about in the article how it's like the 4th or 5th car for 233 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,360 someone who's owned everything right when you really kind of 234 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,480 get into the weeds with new stuff, new flavours. 235 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,320 But but it was that 911 hour that I I really kind of fell in 236 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,080 love with. So don't tell Tom. 237 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,560 But yeah, they're historically significant because they paid 238 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:19,000 for the development work for the Duty 3 Touring. 239 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:22,160 I didn't know that. So, so yeah. 240 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,680 So they were a premium so they could they could justify and get 241 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:29,040 the money into the program for the GT3 Touring. 242 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,360 So you know, when you look at historically buying these cars 243 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,480 at auction, etcetera, it has a story to tell as well, which is 244 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,680 interesting. That's pretty cool. 245 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,800 But it's a similar price to the St. isn't it? 246 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,800 So. Well, and it's kind of the same 247 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,960 in the same spirit, right? You know that Rs engine, right? 248 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,320 It just got that little extra Zing right then then you know 249 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,560 the standard one. And so I've not driven the St. 250 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,320 have either of you, I mean we need to make this happen if. 251 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,080 Not no, we do. Not I imagine that thing's also 252 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,400 pretty wonderful. So. 253 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,560 Yeah, that's the recipe right there. 254 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Rs engine, no wing, manual transmission. 255 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Jobs are good as we would say. I got a question for you guys. 256 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:17,160 What is right now the most popular in terms of demand new 257 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,520 car on the market? So I was watching some YouTube 258 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,120 algorithm and it showed me a top ten list of all the cars that 259 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,560 are currently like they, they measure it in terms of days 260 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:31,120 availability. And this has less than two weeks 261 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,160 to talk across the US. Can you guess What Car it is at 262 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,240 #1 and there's a link here. It's Japanese. 263 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,880 It's 4 by 4. Lexus GX550. 264 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:46,240 It's not. It's the Land Cruiser. 265 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:52,400 So they sell approximately 7000 Land Cruisers a month at the 266 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,360 moment. And at the moment in stock 267 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,840 across the US there is less than 2000 available. 268 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:01,600 So you, Lindsay, drove one the other week and you were raving 269 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,920 about it. And everybody agrees. 270 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,520 Yeah, but the Land Cruiser has an older, more grown up brother, 271 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,400 doesn't it, in the Lexus family? And I think you've just got your 272 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,120 hands on one of those, Lindsay. I did. 273 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,200 That was the GX550, and it's funny that you say that because 274 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:23,600 I was just talking to a friend who said they had been on the, I 275 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,680 think it was the Toyota lot. Maybe they thought it was Lexus, 276 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,600 whatever it was, they were saying this, but I didn't have 277 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,160 enough details. But yeah, they were told by the 278 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,240 dealer that they can't keep them on the lot and they can't even 279 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,480 get them when they do so. Yeah, so I had the GX550, which 280 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,320 is the Lexus version of the current Land Cruiser, which 281 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,880 outside the US is the Prado. And I had the Overtrail edition, 282 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,600 which is the more off road outfitted. 283 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,240 It comes with tougher, you know, running boards, higher 284 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:03,400 suspension, knobby tires. And it was, I did end up getting 285 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,520 to take this one off road. That was my wandering route with 286 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,120 the Land Cruiser that I did not have time to take it off road. 287 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,920 And it was really interesting going into that car because when 288 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,360 I drove the Land Cruiser I was raving about it. 289 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,840 My whole family fell in love with it. 290 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,600 I was like, I could absolutely drive one of these everyday. 291 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,400 It fit my life very well. Super usable, lovely. 292 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,600 All of this. Everyone kept telling me that 293 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,880 week, wait to drive the Lexus. Wait to drive the Lexus. 294 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,400 I think I told you that. You did too, Yeah. 295 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,200 And because the only thing that I noted about the Land Cruiser 296 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,520 that I would change is a slightly bigger engine, because 297 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,160 you do hear the engine noise and it's not. 298 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Like 4 cylinder turbo versus. Cylinder, right, So you know, my 299 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,200 my like ideal dream spec would be the Land Cruiser with the 300 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,600 engine that's only available in the Lexus, the V6. 301 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,320 So I got into the Lexus thinking like all will be solved, and I 302 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,720 was surprised how much you still do here. 303 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:08,000 The engine, given what everybody had sort of set me up to expect. 304 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,120 But and so it was interesting because it it didn't feel like 305 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,720 it was enough of a difference given the price increase where, 306 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,400 you know, maybe you go get one that's a couple years old, Let 307 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,800 somebody else take the hit if you really want the Lexus. 308 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,720 But it felt similar enough to the Land Cruiser that I think 309 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,840 you could get the Land Cruiser and be very happy with it. 310 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,960 But I will say we did have a chance to take the Lexus off 311 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,160 road and it totally transformed how we were feeling about the 312 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,040 car. It was super fun. 313 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,400 And the funniest part was we had gone up a trail. 314 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,880 We were out in Riverside and took a trail there that we 315 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,720 thought would go all the way through into Orange County and 316 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,000 basically put us like not far from where we want to end up. 317 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,200 But it was closed because of the fire danger because it's been so 318 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,760 hot here. So we hit the gate, you know, 319 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,640 closing the trail and went to turn around. 320 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,760 The only other car that we saw on the trail that day and we 321 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,920 were out there for a bit was another Lexus GX550. 322 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:07,839 Really. Oh, really? 323 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:10,200 It was. And it, we were just like we had 324 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,200 the best time. The other driver got out, we got 325 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,119 to meet them and chatted a little bit and I told him about 326 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,680 the show and so he. Had the. 327 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,599 Exactly. So he had the premium edition 328 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,280 with off road tires. So I think it would be 329 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,800 interesting to see how that feels like for daily use because 330 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,840 I think that might be the sweet spot. 331 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,840 If you want the Lexus, get the premium one and like maybe put a 332 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,080 little bit of the off road stuff on it. 333 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,920 Because when you think about it, unless you were buying it and 334 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,400 you're going to be off roading regularly, which I would venture 335 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,840 to say most of us are not, the premium is probably going to be 336 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,920 a better experience day-to-day. And it's still super capable off 337 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,600 road. So yeah, I think it's, I think 338 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,480 it's a great option. It was interesting in the Land 339 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,680 Cruiser, I had an adult and two kids in the back seat and in the 340 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,760 Lexus it just worked out that I had two adults and a child in 341 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,080 the back seat and it was a little tighter. 342 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:14,920 Obviously everybody was bigger, you know, in the first scenario, 343 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 everybody was like, this is fantastic, plenty of room. 344 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,360 So it just depends on who you're carting around and what your 345 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:27,040 lifestyle is, I think you know. Let me ask you, I think because 346 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,960 so I I'm in Denver, obviously, so I'm at altitude and I drove 347 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,240 both of these these trucks in the mountains. 348 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:38,160 So, you know, I'm at 5280 or whatever here at my house and we 349 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,880 were probably double that a lot of the time I was behind the 350 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,080 wheel, both these cars and they, you know, I know turbos go a 351 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,200 long way in compensating for altitude, power loss, this kind 352 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,840 of thing. But I think why I like the Lexus 353 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,160 even more, I think the distinction was even greater was 354 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,720 here that that larger displacement engine fill fills 355 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,640 in some of the the gap right between before you get into the, 356 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,640 the turbo, right. That makes sense. 357 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,240 I found the Toyota a little more on off and, and if you're up to 358 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,440 me, I'm probably buying the Toyota just because it's cheaper 359 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,720 and it's basically the same thing. 360 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,160 And that kind of but, but there was something about that 6 361 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,200 cylinder. I think we drive so few use 6 362 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,200 cylinders anymore 2 everything's a, you know, a 4 cylinder turbo 363 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,040 that you know, just but again, you know, the the land, the Land 364 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,200 Cruiser is already pretty great. That was that was just, you 365 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,800 know, that extra 10%, right? So yeah, no, I mean, I great. 366 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Vehicles, and they're everywhere. 367 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,200 I think you'd be lucky to have either 1. 368 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,320 You know, my sister and her family, we're in Colorado and 369 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,480 they did some off roading and she's, it was almost entirely 370 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,320 new Land Cruisers and FJ's. And you know, like that was 371 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,560 really fun to see, especially having experienced both of the 372 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,800 Land Cruiser versions and knowing that you've done that. 373 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,760 So I think I don't think you could go wrong with either one 374 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,280 of them. I think it's a matter of sort of 375 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,520 fine tuning based on what you're going to be using it for and 376 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,600 then, you know, go from there. Do you recall that the stickers 377 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,080 and on both of those the MSRP in each of this? 378 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Yeah, that was the other thing that was surprising. 379 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,040 So the Land Cruiser that I had, the sticker price was 70 and the 380 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,920 Lexus that I had was 77. So that was another thing where 381 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,120 we were like, there's really not like there wasn't a huge price 382 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:28,600 difference if you really wanted the Lexus badging, you know, 383 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,760 like if that was important to you. 384 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,680 Like it's very accessible if you're already into the Land 385 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,560 Cruiser territory. But yeah, they so they were 386 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,680 closer together. But I think obviously when you 387 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,280 get into like the premium on the Lexus, like the premium trim, it 388 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,040 gets closer to 90 I think. Wow. 389 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of money. 390 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,800 It is. So that's why I always say find 391 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,560 whatever you want. Find one that's a couple years 392 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:59,000 old with the CPO and it opens up a lot more possibilities. 393 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,840 Yeah, yeah. Good trucks. 394 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Well, it might be easier to buy the Lexus in the minute, right? 395 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Based on demand, yeah. Yeah, 6 month of the six months 396 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,760 of those. They're like the Charger EV, 397 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Dan, right? Right, there we go. 398 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,960 Wheeling dealing at the Lexus dealership. 399 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,440 But it sounds like the Toyota guys are actually putting Adms 400 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,760 and and all that malarkey and just can't believe we're back 401 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,280 to, you know, dealer fitted accessories. 402 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,360 Like, you know, I didn't want the fluffy dice, but I paid to 403 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:31,160 have it put in the. But the undercoating, that's 404 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,080 where it's at. I mean, you know, it's worth it 405 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,280 all. Day. 406 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Oh man yeah, if you get the premium undercoating they stand 407 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,640 on one leg while they spray it on. 2 layers. 408 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,160 Dealers say, what else have you been driving, Lindsay? 409 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,880 Have you you've had any other cars? 410 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:52,520 I have So I had what might be my favorite press car so far this 411 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,800 year only because of the livery, shall we say it was. 412 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,400 So I had a new Bronco. It was a 4 door big bend with 413 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,720 the four Wheeling graphics. And so it was the sunset stripes 414 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,480 and it just even sitting in the driveway, it made us smile. 415 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,400 And I was talking to a neighbor and mentioned that I had this 416 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,440 amazing Bronco and she's like, that's you. 417 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,040 I've seen it driving around. I love it. 418 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,760 It's so cute. And the day before it went back, 419 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,160 it was, you know, yeah, I, I would venture to say it is cute 420 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,000 and it is, it's just so cheerful. 421 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,280 It's so happy. And it was, you know, I mean, I, 422 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,640 you guys have experienced this too. 423 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,240 Like, obviously whatever you just stepped out of colors your 424 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,760 experience even initially or like at least initially when you 425 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,480 go to the next thing. So I went from the Lexus to the 426 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,920 Bronco and you know, we were talking about like engine noise 427 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,800 or Rd. noise in the Land Cruiser and the Lexus and the Bronco is 428 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,960 a very different thing. And but it, I think we noticed 429 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,680 the wind noise in the Bronco a lot more just because it was so 430 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,640 different from the Lexus. But the solution is you just 431 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,200 take the tops off and then you're expecting the wind noise 432 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,640 and it's so much more fun. So it was great. 433 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,800 Like we ended up taking it to the beach and cruise down, 434 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,440 cruise down PCH in Huntington with the tops off and the 435 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,400 windows down and it was like, it does not get much better than 436 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,480 being in the like sunset stripe Bronco on PCH. 437 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,680 You know, like name a better scenario. 438 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,400 I'll wait. I mean, that's in its element 439 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,600 for sure. Yeah. 440 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,920 Which engine was? It yeah, that is a good question 441 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,840 and I am blanking at the moment. I will. 442 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,120 So I think they do 2 two and a 27. 443 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,480 I can. I can look it up if you guys 444 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 want to chit chat about something else. 445 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,400 I can tell you exactly. How it was. 446 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,360 I just wondered what it was like on the freeway, like whether it 447 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:02,760 was nippy and. It was, yeah, because we did 448 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,240 some, like, running around picking up car parts, you know, 449 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,320 just like in LA and Orange County. 450 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,720 It was great. Like, great pickup, the 451 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,080 throttle, you know, we never turned the radio on. 452 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,280 We're having too much fun just enjoying the car. 453 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:23,080 Yeah. We don't listen to the radio 454 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,960 that much 'cause we're just we talk too much. 455 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,280 No, I, I'm, I'm kind of with you. 456 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,480 But in a vehicle like that, we're out cruising you. 457 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,440 Know right like it had I thought to turn the radio on, you know 458 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,200 when we're going to the beach like that would have been I 459 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,840 mean, like do some Beach Boys on the radio but yeah even just 460 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:46,040 around town it, it was great like super usable, comfortable. 461 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,320 And that one is really special because the stitching inside, 462 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:55,000 you know so the stripes are like it goes from red orange, yellow 463 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,720 and there's like 5 or 6 different shades in the 464 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,600 gradient. So inside the stitching on the 465 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,680 seats is red, orange and yellow. And then the inserts on the 466 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,840 seats mimics the stripes. And, you know, there's embossed 467 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,480 horses and just all sorts of little fun touches that made it 468 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,080 feel really fun. And it was like, if you want 469 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,920 something that's going to lift your spirits, this is the car to 470 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,440 go get in that like, paint job package. 471 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,320 So yeah, I will look up the engine. 472 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,000 Nice. Walk amongst yourselves. 473 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Here we go. Well, while you're looking at 474 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,240 the engine, so Ryan, you alluded to it, but I think you've got 475 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,000 two articles coming out. Yeah, in Advance and I will just 476 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,160 give a quick plug. I'm showing the latest version 477 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,480 of Advance with the Curry GT and yellow on the front. 478 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,040 Yeah, because I've got an article in that one. 479 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,080 And it's a very good article. That's kind of you to say. 480 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,960 So it was heavily edited, but yeah. 481 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Stopped. Well, So what did you, what did 482 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,720 you write about? I wrote about an off road 483 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,800 experience last November when we went to SEMA and took two days 484 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,320 and went through the desert. And yes, I talked to Carl, who's 485 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,200 the editor in chief and said, hey, do you want the story for 486 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,680 the the magazine? And he said, yeah, it's a 487 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,920 different story. Would love that. 488 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,840 So it's funny, like I, I, I sent him the, the article probably 489 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,880 January, February of this year. And it's taken, you know, that 490 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,160 long 'cause you know, Karl does a great job of having themes for 491 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,960 each magazine episode and right, you know, making sure that 492 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,040 everything's curated and, but, but Ryan, you've got 2. 493 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,680 So you not just one, but two. But they haven't come out yet. 494 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,400 They maybe be really heavily, we'll see, but no. 495 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,680 No, sorry. But go check out Dan's article 496 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,760 because it really is great. The photography is great. 497 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,960 And you know, as an author, you want to put the reader in your 498 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,000 shoes and and I felt like the article really does that. 499 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,520 It was an adventure. It was AI mean. 500 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,240 It was a yeah, I don't know. It was he. 501 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,160 Took us along with. It I wanted to be there, it was 502 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,680 cool. I know and they share that Ivan, 503 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,760 who's the photographer. No. 504 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,200 Well, and I realized they most that issue arrived at the house 505 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,680 and I was flipping through it and I saw the title and I went, 506 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,800 wait a minute, that sounds like what Dan did. 507 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,480 And then I flipped to the article and realized it was your 508 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,400 article. Like we got. 509 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,880 Guys, it's so cool that we're in the circles we are because 510 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,720 hardly a day goes by where I just don't run into a friend's 511 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760 article, whether it's the New York Times, whether it's a car 512 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,160 magazine or car website, something like Avant's. 513 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,080 It's just, and often times I don't catch it when I start 514 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,840 reading it like this. This sounds kind of, you know, 515 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,040 like someone I know. And then I go up, up, you know, 516 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,840 back up and see the author and you know, it's, it's, it's 517 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,200 pretty cool. It's pretty cool. 518 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,000 And there's something about print too, right? 519 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,520 To see your name in print, to see your piece in print, that's 520 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,240 special. So plug. 521 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,640 For a. Yeah, yeah. 522 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,440 And then this next issue with my two articles is September 15th, 523 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,040 I believe. So we'll, we'll, you know, we'll 524 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,040 look for that when it comes up. But one's on Bruce Meyer, which 525 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,560 I think we've talked about the others on Tom Horan's Alcoholics 526 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,320 gtar, which is a hell of a car. It's really, really pretty cool. 527 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,360 But much like your article, assisted in great part by 528 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,560 wonderful photography. So can't wait, can't wait. 529 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,400 Great opportunity. Avance Magazine is really, 530 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,720 really on a. They do good stuff. 531 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,360 On a great tear right now, so yeah. 532 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,600 Well, they just had. Their. 533 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080 Classics on the green, Dan, did you get to go to that? 534 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,120 I didn't know I was otherwise unavailable, but it looked very 535 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,880 good. It's, yeah, I got to go last 536 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,040 year and it's just, it's such a lovely event. 537 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,240 It's at the Chateau St. Michel winery in Woodinville, 538 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,320 which is on the east side of the greater Seattle area. 539 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,480 And yeah, I mean, Chrissy and Adam, they just put together 540 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,720 like such a cool collection of cars. 541 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,640 You see some really unique stuff and it's lovely because it's 542 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,240 sort of like going to the Derby. People dress up and they have 543 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,760 sun hats and it's a very, you know, it's a more of a genteel 544 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,360 cars and coffee. They would probably cringe at me 545 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,720 calling it a cars and coffee. So, cars and wine. 546 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,200 I helped exhibit of that show a few years ago. 547 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Did you? And yeah, and I moved to car 548 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,560 onto the lawn and moved it around car parks and stuff, so. 549 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920 In essence, I guess it's. Long enough now that they can 550 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,280 talk about it. So there were three cars that 551 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,000 were shipped up from LA. One was a Ferrari F41, was an EB 552 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,440 110 and one was a roof yellow Bird and. 553 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,120 That's a trio, right? The keys were there and I was 554 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,240 given the opportunity of one set of keys out of the three. 555 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,120 So. So what'd you go for? 556 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,200 Very good mind. I'm 6 foot 2 and. 557 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,840 All right, I'll tell you what I'm going for. 558 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,520 And I don't know that I would fit. 559 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,280 And this is a whole other discussion, right? 560 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,600 But as crazy as this sounds, I'm probably more likely to have an 561 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,280 opportunity to drive a roof or an F40 before I would ever have 562 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,400 another opportunity to drive an EB110. 563 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,160 So EB 110 for me. Nice. 564 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,760 And that's crazy. That was a well thought out 565 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,840 well. But again, like, how lucky are 566 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,240 we, right? I know. 567 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,560 Which would you have picked? I would choose the F40. 568 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,400 Interesting. So my decision was based on 569 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,360 would I fit in the car and how many of them were made. 570 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,080 And when you look at the F40I think there's over 2000. 571 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,280 When you look at the EB110, I think it's around 500. 572 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,120 It's definitely 6 figures. Sorry, three figures. 573 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,760 My math's not good. Tonight there were 29 roof 574 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,320 yellow birds and not all were yellow so I took the roof. 575 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,680 Yeah, that was. That's the one I want to take 576 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,520 home, don't get me wrong. Right, right. 577 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,720 That's a very good car. And you're saying there's a 578 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:59,440 higher likelihood of that? Well, now he's writing with 579 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,080 Bruce. Maybe Bruce will lend him his 580 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,960 his yellow bird #1. If you have an open spruce spot, 581 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,400 right? Yeah. 582 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,200 Yeah, yeah, very good. Shall we talk about some rumours 583 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,320 and ideas that we've seen in the press? 584 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,880 Yes. Sir. 585 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,240 Let's move on a little bit, right? 586 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800 Let's. Talk with Shall I quickly answer 587 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,640 the question so we can close the loop on the bar? 588 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,960 Oh, sorry, yeah no, you're good. It was a 2.3 litre EcoBoost 589 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,680 engine. OK, so that's the lower powered 590 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,880 one. And you're saying it was still 591 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,080 pretty? It was perfect, pretty nippy. 592 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,360 Yeah, Yeah. Like no lag getting on the 593 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,840 freeway. It was interesting because the 594 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,120 throttle, you know, some throttles are heavier than 595 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200 others. This one was kind of middle of 596 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,240 the road. It was solid, but not enough 597 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,360 where you're like, OK, my leg's going to get tired on a road 598 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,200 trip. No. 599 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,760 So highly recommend. Yep. 600 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,760 We do all right. I certainly do. 601 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,160 So I was, I don't know if you guys have seen this in the 602 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,280 press, but Porsche is everyone uses the Nurburgring to test 603 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800 don't they? And some cars are more disguised 604 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,000 than others. But Porsche are a test driving 605 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,520 and prototyping a GT3 with a duck tail on the back. 606 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:18,200 So I wondered whether it could be the new Sport classic because 607 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,800 every generation they seemed to have a sport classic. 608 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,480 The last generation was a turbo engines rear wheel drive manual 609 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,560 car with a duck tail. But what else could it be? 610 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,120 Did it have the double bubble roof by? 611 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,480 Chance. I don't think it did. 612 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,240 I'm still going with Sport Classic. 613 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,240 I just, I mean, right, I think Mctell, you think Sport Classic 614 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,480 so. It did have GT3 Touring written 615 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,880 on the back, you know, on the engine Bay, but that, you know, 616 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,320 they could put anything on it, right? 617 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,880 Is that like a misdirection? Could be. 618 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,240 It could be. I mean, Porsche have recently 619 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,480 come out. The CEO has said that he intends 620 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,640 to, you know, produce less cars but make more money on the cars 621 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,000 they're producing, right? So maybe can we talk about that 622 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,680 for just a second, I mean? Don't we all want to do a lot of 623 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,840 work? I mean the, the right, that's 624 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,280 the dream, right? But, but you know, I, I, this is 625 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,280 when we need the new, I don't know, you call IT914924, 626 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920 whatever, right? More than ever, we need an 627 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,840 accessible Porsche. Because even though those last 628 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,640 718 Caymans, you know, even the base 4 cylinders, some of them 629 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,080 were $90,000 before they stopped making the 718. 630 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,520 You know, that's way too much money for 95% of America, maybe 631 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,040 more, right? We need a, we need an entry 632 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,080 level Porsche. I think that's the direction we 633 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,480 should be going, but. It would be good. 634 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,720 We don't run Porsche. None of us are going to 635 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,960 complain. Right, here's the question for 636 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,440 you Ryan. Would you buy a hypothetically 637 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,360 an Audi that was like Porsche designed Audi. 638 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,760 So in the same way obviously the Rs was Rs 2, they they put well. 639 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400 This goes back to the, the, the like even earlier, I think, 640 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,159 right. I mean, there was the Volkswagen 641 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,280 fox that was also the Audi fox. I mean, there was, and I think 642 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040 they made these mistakes before there was just too much, I don't 643 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,000 know, incestuous stuff going on with Porsche, Volkswagen and 644 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,800 Audi. And I think, you know, it burned 645 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,159 them forever, right? So I don't know that they would 646 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,719 ever do anything like that again. 647 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,639 Dan, you know, like a like a you're talking about a basically 648 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,159 a Porsche engineered Audi sports car. 649 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,400 Yeah, yeah, in the same way they did it with the RS2, right? 650 00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:37,000 Yeah, yeah. The wagon they worked with 651 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,960 Mercedes on the was it the E500? That's right. 652 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:48,520 So, you know, if they did a Audi TT Porsche designed like, would 653 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,159 that work to fill in that little gap you're talking about? 654 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,080 It's interesting because I want both of those cars very much. 655 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,360 This is some of these things. Let me get. 656 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,440 Both and then I will tell you. Yeah, I mean, just wonderful 657 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,280 cars, right? Although I've not driven either 658 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,080 one, you know, I have a couple friends here in Denver who do 659 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,800 have 500ES or E500. So maybe the RS2 is a little 660 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,000 tougher to come by anymore. But yeah, I don't know. 661 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,960 It's, it's, it's, I think it would be all in the marketing, 662 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,320 right? And it would have to be amazing, 663 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,560 right? It would have to look great. 664 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,560 It would have to look great. It's that's a tough. 665 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,920 One and drive great, right? Drive great, yeah. 666 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,240 And. And. 667 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,000 Ultimately. Yeah, like no excuses, right? 668 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,920 No excuses. And the price point would have 669 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,160 to be, yeah, first point would have to be like 60 or 70 grand, 670 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,800 I would think, to make it make sense. 671 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:46,800 Would it appeal to you Lindsay? Like the Porsche Designs TT. 672 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,720 Knowing that it's. Engineering excellence. 673 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,520 I think it's one of those things that you would end up you're 674 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,160 like in theory it's great, but in practice people kind of go 675 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:04,040 like, I don't know. And it's not like obviously we 676 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,320 know Porsche does amazing work. Anything Porsche design is going 677 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,080 to be great, you assume. But I think it's kind of one of 678 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,560 those like Frankenstein monster things where you're like, it's 679 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,920 too many things. Mishmash is kind of that's my 680 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,560 gut reaction. But I mean if it really comes. 681 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,240 Out people are going to take the Audi badge off and put a a 682 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,440 Porsche badge. I think the the the alternative 683 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,280 to that, though, is you have to go and find another brand, 684 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000 right, Because Porsche are not going to build that car that 685 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,120 you're looking for. Ryan Yeah, I know. 686 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,240 Not right now. OK, let me ask you this. 687 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,280 Are you fans of this Nuvolari concept car that Audi's come out 688 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,320 with? Because that's a love it or hate 689 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,040 it proposition? Have you seen this thing? 690 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,000 There's only 500 of them so but. What about a mini one of those? 691 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,480 A mini Nuvolari. Well, I think we've seen that 692 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,760 already, haven't we? We've seen that in the the TT 693 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,680 Electric. Yeah. 694 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,320 I I don't know it, it's such a weird like, again, I think 695 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,480 they'd have to get it just right because anything short of just 696 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,680 right and it's going to become the laughing stock, right? 697 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,160 Yeah. Well, and I I think you hit the 698 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,000 nail on the head, Ryan, like anything where you go well, it's 699 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,880 it's almost a something. And so I'm just going to switch 700 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,080 the badges. I feel like you've lost before 701 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,400 you even start. If people are like, well, it's 702 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,640 close. It's like what a lot of people 703 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,520 experience with like replicas versus the real thing where your 704 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,440 entire experience is people going like, well, but oh, is it 705 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,840 real? And you have to say, oh, it's 706 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,160 replica or whatever. I think it's one of the like 707 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,640 where you go, oh, it's an accessible Porsche, but it's not 708 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,160 really. And so then you end up in this 709 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:54,040 weird limbo like. Here's what I'm afraid it's 710 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,480 going to happen. Porsche really will follow in 711 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,680 the path of modern Ferrari, right? 712 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,240 Where there's not much in that modern Ferrari, price be damned. 713 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,400 There's not much in the modern Ferrari lineup that I really 714 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,400 lust after. The stuff I lust after are 350 715 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,480 fives and 340 eights and five 50s and 57 fives and F 40s and 716 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,960 that kind of thing. And I, I I'm just afraid that if 717 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,240 if Porsche follows, I think, I think Ferrari should be going 718 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:20,560 the other way. I think there should be a new 719 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,920 Dino. We've talked about this before. 720 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,480 Yeah, right. I I. 721 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,680 It's not worth it. Money's out though, is it? 722 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,840 I know, but that's so that's the problem because. 723 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,880 That's the business problem. I know, but it wasn't always 724 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,240 like that, right? You know, I'm working on the 725 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:39,240 Colorado Grand car descriptions right now for the 2026 running 726 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,400 of the Grand. And by the way, with some 727 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,120 wonderful cars, just amazing stuff. 728 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,800 Just amazing stuff. But one of the things I. 729 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,800 Really love. I don't think anyone will get 730 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:55,440 too mad if I say there are 4D types, Jaguar D types and 20 odd 731 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,240 some Ferraris. But what's cool is, you know, 732 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,400 some of these cars have a competition history when you 733 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,520 talk about the D type, right? When you talk about, you know, 734 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,280 something like a 250 GTO or whatever. 735 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,760 And a lot of these people submit photos of the era and some of 736 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,040 the photos are like the car rolling out of the factory with 737 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,680 all the engineers and they're like white coats and they're 738 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,760 taking pictures and they're smoking cigars and cigarettes. 739 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,640 And it's just like there's a vibe, right? 740 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,080 There's just a vibe. And it's special. 741 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,800 Some of the cars, you know, are photographed in competition. 742 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,760 And there's again, there's just there's something analog, 743 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,960 There's something real that, you know, I know those days are are 744 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,600 long gone, but it wasn't always about what it's about now. 745 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,560 And I guess that's what turns me off. 746 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,040 It's just you meet someone like, yeah, they're not for me. 747 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,360 Right. And unfortunately, I, I feel 748 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,560 that way about a lot of the stuff from Ferrari these days 749 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,680 and increasingly the Porsche stuff, right when I saw that 750 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,280 new, you know, 911 career T come out with wheels that we're 751 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,760 hideous, right. The new GT3 touring has some 752 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,480 funky bits. I don't know if you've seen 753 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,600 Harry's garage, Harry Metcalf driving the thing where you 754 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,880 know, I, I don't need to have a badge that says lightweight 755 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,520 right on the centre stack. I don't need a sticker in the 756 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,520 window that tells me it's a manual transmission. 757 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,680 That's just Is ghost the word? You. 758 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,320 Know not a German word, but you know, it's just I, I think we're 759 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,600 just going in the wrong. Direction. 760 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,960 Well, that was one of the complaints when the St. came 761 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,720 out, right? Didn't it have a manual sticker 762 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,160 in the window? And people were like, why do? 763 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,840 Why would you do that? That's the first thing I'm 764 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,920 taking off, Yeah. Yeah. 765 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440 Yeah. Is there a new car that you guys 766 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,600 lost after? Because for me there is one 767 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,680 Ferrari new I lost off. But before we get to mine, is 768 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,600 there a a brand new car that you lost after for its looks? 769 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,280 I mean it. Should be easy guys. 770 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,440 This should be so. Easy. 771 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,120 I know we have a special color pack on it, but. 772 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,920 No, I was thinking I'm like, this is totally not the like 773 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,160 type of car we've been talking about, but I mean, of course a 774 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,240 defender. Here we go, an Octa. 775 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480 Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. 776 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,600 That or AG Wagon, although I don't love the interiors, but I, 777 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,440 I think just as a thing, the G wagon's pretty wonderful. 778 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,960 Yeah, you know, yeah. I mean, despite it all, I I'd 779 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,640 still take a a GT3 or something but but yeah, you know what? 780 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,800 I'd take a 9 and 1.2 touring before I take a 992.2 touring, 781 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,800 so. You're like, I'll be generous 782 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,680 and I will like. That old, like, are we at that 783 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,240 point now where we just start buying like the old stuff right 784 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:37,400 Where I mean the the oldies stations on the radio play the 785 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,720 music of our youth. It's no longer the 50s and 60s 786 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:41,880 stuff. It's, you know, the Gin Blossoms 787 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,960 this. Is where? 788 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,320 We're here guys. The first time you hear your 789 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,560 music on the Oldies station is one of those like Touchstone, 790 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,600 where you're just like, this cannot be happening. 791 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,360 They don't call it the oldies though. 792 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,200 What do they call it? It's it's. 793 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,400 Classic now or something. It's not classic rock. 794 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,800 I'm clearly not in the same demographic as you 2 I the the 795 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,880 Ferrari 12 cylinder convertible. I just think that is one of the 796 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,840 most beautiful cars ever made. You know, I would if I had the 797 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,840 money, I would buy one tomorrow. It's it's that beautiful. 798 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,400 I need to think a lot bigger is what I'm. 799 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,360 Hearing it looks like a modern Daytona. 800 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,960 Oh yeah, and I remember was it last year, the year before where 801 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,280 they were everywhere at car week, at least the coupe, right. 802 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,920 I don't know that it's beautiful, but it is it is cool. 803 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,400 It's. Cool. 804 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,720 Yeah, that's a good choice, Dan. Yeah. 805 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,280 I need I need to think like a lottery winner rather than. 806 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,560 AI mean you're going to need to be a lottery winner to put gas 807 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,840 in an Octa. Yeah, it's easy to hate when it 808 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,200 doesn't, when it's completely irrelevant, these choices, 809 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,160 right? You know it's it's. 810 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:53,800 Yeah, no, it's so I have heard rumours that McLaren will be at 811 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,720 the quail and they will be unveiling a limited edition 812 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,480 manual car. So following in the footsteps of 813 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,600 Ferrari that obviously have just released a manual car. 814 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,200 And if you think about it, car. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it's 815 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:09,960 technical. Well, you can stall it, right. 816 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,040 So I'm I'm calling it. Manual that's. 817 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,680 That's my definition of a manual. 818 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,480 I can install it, yeah. And I will. 819 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,840 Right. And if you remember the three 820 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,840 McLaren, Ferrari and Aston Martin around the same sort of 821 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,960 time, like all got together and produced these these topless 822 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,840 cars, didn't they? There was the the Monza SP3 or 823 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,600 SP2 or something. There was the Elva and Aston 824 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,480 Martin had one. So it sounds like Ferrari were 825 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,680 first out of the gates. It sounds like McLaren are going 826 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,360 to bring one to the the market. And I don't know if it counts 827 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,680 but Aston Martin have got the Valor which is a a sold out 110 828 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,280 builds manual car. Yeah, they're going to run out 829 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,320 of V words. I'm just. 830 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,880 Yeah. They're just going to start 831 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,560 making them up. Yeah, it's didn't those, didn't 832 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,000 those topless cars off, didn't they also also come without 833 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,600 windshields, windscreens and. As I did. 834 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,240 Some of them were refitted, right? 835 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,480 You know, you couldn't give those things away at first. 836 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,840 I wasn't, I mean. Car Week when the Monza was like 837 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,440 debuted and they had a whole bunch of them that were moving 838 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,240 around on Moss kind of. And you know, to the uneducated 839 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:31,280 at the time, it was like, what is that? 840 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,120 And why would you not want a windshield? 841 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,560 Yeah. Goggles live and learn. 842 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,200 You want to get that dirt around your eyes when you take the, you 843 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,560 know, you roll to the club, right? 844 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,920 The authenticity. They're goggles, right? 845 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,640 Right. What's up? 846 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,920 So we will watch this space to see whether the McLaren does 847 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,800 come to the Quail. But if it does, you heard it 848 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,320 here first. Yep. 849 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,320 There you go. Yep. 850 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,880 Yep, I think they will. I think 100% money's on that for 851 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,720 sure. So we will, we will see Morgan. 852 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,800 So Morgan, the great British brand, is bringing their car to 853 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,080 market in the US. They because of restrictions, 854 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,840 they're not allowed to bring what I would call the full fat 855 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,720 version, and they have to bring a smaller engine car. 856 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,640 Who buys a Morgan? You mean besides Jerry Seinfeld? 857 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,560 Yeah. Does he have one? 858 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640 Yeah, he's a big Morgan enthusiast. 859 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,000 Interesting. Our buddy Jason Meshnick, who 860 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,440 who writes for Autoblog and other outlets, he had one in LA 861 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,560 for a week, said it was the greatest car he's driven in 862 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,040 forever. He said it was transformative. 863 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,200 But I would put money that he had the bigger engine. 864 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,160 I think he did. I think it was European, but I 865 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,880 love, I love Morgan so much. You know, I mean, we've talked 866 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,760 about this before, but I think it was last year's car. 867 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,000 We were at Motor Lux and it started to sprinkle, you know, 868 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,360 it started to rain and there was a man out there wiping down a 869 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,080 car. It was a Morgan and he was the 870 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,160 CEO of Morgan. I mean, give me one other car 871 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,440 brand, right, that that would ever, ever happened with, right? 872 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,120 So there's something just special. 873 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,560 I would buy one. I really, I really would now. 874 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,080 I think it's, that's a very like location dependent device, 875 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,360 right? I mean, I think if you lived in 876 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,680 like Carmel or something beautiful, I don't know if 877 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,640 Omaha, NE, it's going to have quite the same appeal, right? 878 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,200 Well, or like in the mountains, like would you have one in 879 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,960 Denver? You know, I've never driven 1 880 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,400 and I think, you know, that's again, a probably a car that's 881 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,960 1/3 or 1/4 or 1/5 car, right, Because is it the fastest thing? 882 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,240 No, I mean there's a you know, it's it's got its lane that 883 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,800 right, It belongs in and you know, it's it's I don't know if 884 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,520 that would ever be my go to sports car, but it it was just 885 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,560 as a tour. I mean, wonderful, right? 886 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,200 Right. Well. 887 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,640 Percentage. If you had the ability to have, 888 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,200 you know, a fleet like, that'd be a fun thing to have in the 889 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,400 fleet you. Had six cars? 890 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,400 Sure. What percentage do you think you 891 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,880 lose of performance being in in Denver? 892 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,880 Like 2030% on a. Yeah, I forget what the 893 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,960 algorithm is, right? It's always about the algorithm, 894 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:11,760 but I think it's something like is it 2 or 3% for every 1000 895 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,800 feet you go up from sea level, right? 896 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:16,920 Maybe a little bit more. I think 2:00 to 3:00, two to 3%. 897 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,160 Some engineer out there will, will, will call me out on this. 898 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,600 So, you know, maybe at home I don't notice it so much. 899 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,800 A little bit, you know, I've driven my car or you know, the 900 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,480 equivalent of my car, you know, an Angela's Crest and feels like 901 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,280 it's got an extra 50 or 100 horsepower. 902 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,600 But you know, with that smaller engine that would be that would 903 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,760 that would be tough in the mountains. 904 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,560 I think, you know, on the grand there are a lot of cars, you 905 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,480 know, again, this is generally, you know, 1916 earlier cars, but 906 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,120 there are a lot of cars we just don't allow on because you know, 907 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,760 they've got to climb 14,000, you know, foot passes or whatever it 908 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,480 is so. I mean, it's a real 909 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,840 consideration. This is the same weight as a 910 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,320 Miata and it's 255 horsepower. So I. 911 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,520 Enough. I'm not convinced Denver is the 912 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,280 right market for it. Probably not. 913 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,520 No, no. So, Ryan, you'll just have to 914 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,120 leave it at your Malibu house, which is fine, yeah. 915 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,960 That's true. Yeah. 916 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,520 I mean, you have, you know, you have the right tool for every 917 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,400 job and that is a good fit there and then you find some other 918 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,360 stuff. But but there are people 919 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,320 listening, and I know they are that have that at their. 920 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,120 Disposal. Right, multiple homes with, you 921 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,560 know, the the horse for the course or exactly right. 922 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,560 And yeah, that would do the trick. 923 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,840 And if there are people listening and interested there 924 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,080 is a beta Configurator on the Morgan website. 925 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,200 So I went and had a look and I think I put one extra on it and 926 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,680 it was 100120K so. You said a a beater Configurator 927 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,520 or a beta Configurator. We would call it beta, but beta 928 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,680 tomato. Tomato, whatever. 929 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,880 They were still sorting out the ironing out the wrinkles or 930 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,280 something. Yeah, no. 931 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,160 No. So it's not production fully 932 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,320 right, but yeah, 120 K. So that's, you know, that's. 933 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,600 I mean, that's a that's a Boxster 4.0, right? 934 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,280 That's right. I mean, that's a or a spider. 935 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,320 That's a yeah, you know what a Corvette ZR or not ZR1, but ZO6 936 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,160 right. I mean, that's that's a. 937 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,160 It's actually pretty accessible compared to like when you 938 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,760 consider a lot of the stuff we talk about, that's much more 939 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,600 accessible than I would have expected. 940 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,680 Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, watch this 941 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:32,120 space on that car. Week is shortly upon us and some 942 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,840 things are new such as last week's show, you know, changing 943 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,080 of the guard and that was a great show. 944 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,360 By the way, guys, if if you guys haven't listened to it, who are 945 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,200 listening today? There's a change in the guard at 946 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,200 Pebble Beach and I think we got an exclusive right. 947 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,960 We do. I think so. 948 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,520 I haven't seen them in any other podcasts as as our friend Lynn 949 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,320 Woodward would say, how about them apples? 950 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,400 Right, so I imagine he'll start popping up on other shows now, 951 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,920 but. I mean, they're going to notice 952 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,840 that he was on our show. Yeah, he's awesome. 953 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,440 He's like, he's like our age, you know, and he's like been 954 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,720 handed the keys to this, this, you know, this thing, you know, 955 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:14,320 we know and love and we love, but he's the guy to do it. 956 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,080 He's he's awesome. Check out on last week's show if 957 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,480 you haven't listened to it. It was a really great 958 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,720 conversation and he was, yeah, he was super fun to record with. 959 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,080 Yeah, new things at Car week, but there's also traditional 960 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,040 things at car week. And one of the traditional 961 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,280 things are the auctions. You know, it's, it's usually for 962 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,840 a lot of the, the auction houses, it's usually their top 963 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,040 auction. So the 1:00 where they're going 964 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,240 to make the most money, the one where records are going to be 965 00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:43,960 broken, you know, it's a big deal. 966 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,920 So we thought we would have a look at some of the highlights 967 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,000 and maybe low lights of, of. So we've got a few picks of 968 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,600 what's going on and, and generally speaking, if you've 969 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,160 not been to Carwick and you're going this year, you can get a 970 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,000 pass to go look at these cars at those auction houses. 971 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,760 If you are credible enough to be a bidder, then they'll let you 972 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,680 in for free. If not, I think they they charge 973 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,440 a very small amount for you to go and have a look. 974 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,760 So first up on the lot and I want you guys to keep your 975 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,320 paddles down on this one. Don't worry, they wouldn't give 976 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,160 me one, dear. RM Sotheby and I guess this is a 977 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,280 tradition for Ferrari, is that when they have a new model, they 978 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,640 tend to do like chassis 0 for charity. 979 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,120 I really hope that this sells because it's for charity. 980 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:39,440 But it's the very first Ferrari Luche Yeah, this is so who who's 981 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,040 buying that? And I I've put in the comments, 982 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,760 is it a rich person looking for a tax write off and wanting to 983 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,680 save the planet? I. 984 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,600 Mean I hope that person shows up. 985 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,880 But there, there's 600,000 I think new, this one is a tailor 986 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,400 made 1, so it's obviously bespoke, but like how much 987 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,320 bespoke really is there going to be in that car? 988 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,600 And then they're advertising it for $1,000,000, yeah. 989 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,120 What is it? A special colour? 990 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,240 It's what's, what are we, what are we dealing with? 991 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,640 What are we working with? Oh, it's white. 992 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,560 Worst. The worst color for Ferrari, 993 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,680 generally speaking. That we Well, unless it's a 994 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,240 testarossa Ryan. That's right, that's right. 995 00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:20,640 That's how much cocaine is in the dorsals of this luche. 996 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,920 Not enough is the answer. Value add Yeah, I don't know. 997 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,760 That's a tough one. I'm I'm sure someone will. 998 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,040 I mean, you know, $1,000,000 is nothing to some so many of. 999 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,280 You. Know there's a lot of yeah for 1000 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,640 charity. Somebody you know, some 1001 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,200 magnanimous individual will show up and help. 1002 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,000 Well, didn't think of 1,000,000 bucks for some sort of Corvette 1003 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,200 recently like maybe the 1st ZR1 or something. 1004 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,840 So maybe this isn't so far like the the gulf between sticker and 1005 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,960 Yeah and. Predictions. 1006 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,040 Although I think on the the ZR1 it's a slightly different story 1007 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,560 because I think it's Mr. Hendricks and he collects 01 of 1008 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,400 every GM car and he's got a big joke. 1009 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,360 So, but it could be there could be a Mr. Hendricks for for 1010 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,320 Ferrari, right? Yeah. 1011 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,640 I. Mean it'll always be 000 or 1012 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,200 whatever so. Yeah, I mean, we won't, we won't 1013 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,640 kind of lament this point long term, but like. 1014 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,600 But the new owner sure will. There we go. 1015 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,320 I wonder if this is a car that history is going to be kind to. 1016 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,400 So over the years, there's been various cars that just didn't 1017 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,960 sell when you weren't well received. 1018 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:35,920 You know, examples I can think of were the E30M3, the E36 1019 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,760 lightweight, the LFA when it came out, they didn't sell, but 1020 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,320 now there's there's a market for it. 1021 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,960 And, and I also think, and this is going to be most 1022 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,280 controversial thing I've said all year, I think the Cyber 1023 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,160 Truck at some point in the future will become a design 1024 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,520 icon. I watched a Harry's Garage video 1025 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,440 with the Bitsarini. Did you guys see that one? 1026 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,720 Yeah. So what interests me on this new 1027 00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:04,840 Bitsarini was it was designed by Fabrizio Gagario of Ital Design. 1028 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,320 Very famous dry designer. He's designed all sorts. 1029 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:15,120 I know that the guy who penned the Enzo, the Cyber Trek is his 1030 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,800 favorite design and car. That's interesting. 1031 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:24,120 So, yeah, so that's Ken Okiyama. But Fabrizio turned up in a 1032 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,480 cyber truck. So these famous designers are 1033 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,120 all buying cyber trucks. So we won't limit on this point 1034 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,880 because it's, you know, we're not a big fan or I'm not a big 1035 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,040 fan of that car, but. But your prediction is. 1036 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,200 Funny. Classic. 1037 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,720 It's funny you mentioned 2 middle-aged men because you've 1038 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,160 you've seen the meme going around the Internet right About 1039 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,640 how? Have you ever seen a a a cyber 1040 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,040 truck? A cyber truck pull into a 1041 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,520 parking spot and a family gets out? 1042 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,160 No, it's always 1 middle-aged. Man. 1043 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,800 That's that's the target or that's that's who this thing is 1044 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,200 resonating. It it it's it's non design, 1045 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,200 right. What was that car you had at the 1046 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,640 Peterson Dan that that Demiro drove in one of his? 1047 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,640 The the low res. Yeah, the low res, I mean that 1048 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,360 is this car as production vehicle. 1049 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,440 Yeah. Right. 1050 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,520 I, I, I guess I'd have to look at the numbers to see if they'd 1051 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,480 ever actually be truly collectible, right. 1052 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,960 I know they're, they're only, they've only made a fraction of 1053 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,320 what they were predicting, but that's. 1054 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,240 Interesting. We'll revisit it. 1055 00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:35,320 We'll put this this podcast in a time capsule and revisit it in 1056 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:40,520 20 years time and and and then we'll note that anyway, let's 1057 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,600 move on to some cool cars because we've done it with the 1058 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,680 electric stuff. Are you? 1059 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,840 Saying the cyber truck isn't cool. 1060 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,640 At the moment, in 20 years time, it will be right McLaren F1 GTR 1061 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,040 and this car is one of two short tailed development prototypes. 1062 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,680 RM again, having this car, I think it's going to be one of 1063 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,480 the biggest hitters of the week. They are quoting 35 million, but 1064 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,880 who knows? This car also belongs to Nick 1065 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,360 Mason of Pink Floyd, so it's got all the pedigree, it's got the 1066 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:21,760 famous owner, it's got the history. 35 million What are? 1067 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,400 You guys looking? For these. 1068 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,480 Days about 20. There's less than 100 in 1069 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:32,920 existence, so, but, you know, if you think about it, you've got 1070 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,000 Gordon Murray's legacy. His new cars are fetching stupid 1071 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,560 money. And what I mean by that is he, I 1072 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,200 think they're about 2 million, the 250 and one sold for eight, 1073 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,200 you know, so and it's just supply and demand. 1074 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,440 There aren't any more, but you know, so. 1075 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,320 Why do you think this took a minute to catch on? 1076 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,480 To catch fire? Catch fire is not the word we 1077 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,320 want to use the phrase you want to. 1078 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,320 Check literally and which we're thinking. 1079 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,040 But when those cars were announced, right, I don't think 1080 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,360 that they sold out immediately. There was some marketing going 1081 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,320 on by our friends at GMA. Some we're the recipient of 1082 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,480 those marketing efforts. And, you know, and, and that was 1083 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,640 what two years ago, I remember at Car Week, they, you know, 1084 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,480 they're really pushing them and, and they're already now trading 1085 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,960 for, for four times that. Yeah, that's why I think people 1086 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,240 realize how good a driver's car they are, right? 1087 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,840 And then you. One of the best. 1088 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,200 What else the stable of Gordon Murray is bringing out, right? 1089 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,880 It's a cheap car versus a 20 million car, right? 1090 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:45,200 They've got 4520 million cars, $20 million cars with the S1 LM. 1091 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,600 I thought you were talking about McLaren F1. 1092 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,760 Sorry, it was. But yeah, so that's going to be 1093 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,360 an interesting one to watch. RM Sotheby's, I hope it gets 1094 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,880 good money. And it's also interesting that 1095 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,840 Nick Mason has decided to sell that car. 1096 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,360 He also owns a 250 GTO, right? So. 1097 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,000 Famously. Yeah, yeah. 1098 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,720 So I wonder why he's decided now is the time to sell the McLaren 1099 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,520 F1. So Nick, if you're listening, 1100 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,680 give us a call. Let us know. 1101 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,160 We'd love to know. We'll help you sell it. 1102 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:25,280 Yeah, so that's cool. JDM there are two not one but 2 1103 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,720 when I started to do this research for this show, I 1104 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,920 thought, oh, there's a 1 of 44 Nissan Nismo 400R and then I did 1105 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,000 a bit more research and there's actually 2 because broad arrow 1106 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:41,120 and Gooding both have 10 funny. So it's. 1107 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,160 Just the the NSXR of 2026 it's auctions. 1108 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,520 But they made 400. Sorry 44 of the race inspired 1109 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:57,040 Rd. cars. Yeah, I don't know much about 1110 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,840 that. Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm just 1111 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,840 not a JDM, big JDM guy. So some of the, you know, some 1112 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,880 of the variants are lost on on me. 1113 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,760 That said, you know, last couple of years at car Week I've really 1114 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,600 started to pay attention to these cars and know a couple 1115 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,560 guys who are local. You have them and they're pretty 1116 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,880 wonderful. They're pretty great, right. 1117 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,400 Even just the the bog standard cars, they're so I don't know, 1118 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,320 this might be, you know, maybe these cars are worth it. 1119 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,160 I I just, you know, again, not for the casual. 1120 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:37,680 Yeah, the record for a JDM car at auction was a LFA with the 1121 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,280 Nurburg package. Oh yeah. 1122 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,960 And that sold for 1.6. What? 1123 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,000 And that's that's it. That is, that is the but that 1124 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,160 set the bar now that had a certain colour, right? 1125 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,880 Those were painted a certain. They did 2 colours I believe. 1126 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,800 I think it was yellow and black, I might be wrong. 1127 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,240 Definitely yellow. There were some yellow but it 1128 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,160 wasn't unique. Yellow. 1129 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,560 I thought it was for a long time. 1130 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,600 Yeah, they did a a second colour and they had a few more 1131 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,000 horsepower and 10 more horsepower, larger rear wing and 1132 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,440 there were only 64 of those in the world. 1133 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,680 Wow, so. Yeah, well, that helps. 1134 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,080 Again, that's a, I remember at the Chicago auto show, you know, 1135 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,400 whatever, was it 2012 or whatever, when those came out 1136 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,920 and they had a whole row of them and I was so impressed. 1137 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,760 You know, Chicago auto shows ten of these. 1138 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,480 Well, then it rises. Well, they just just hadn't sold 1139 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,800 right at the team. Yeah, I know at the time, you 1140 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,440 know, they they didn't really do anything for me. 1141 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,960 You know, the exhaust pipes and I don't know, they they just 1142 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,200 didn't quite look cohesive. But man, now they look great, I 1143 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,720 think. And that I mean that engine, if 1144 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,320 you've ever been next to 1, you know, at fire up, they they're 1145 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,200 they're a very special thing. So. 1146 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,200 There's a car Wow video that's just come out that is the 1147 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,600 Carrera GT versus the LFA. Saw that. 1148 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,040 Yeah. And I won't spoil it, but that's 1149 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,920 two V 10s that make great noises. 1150 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,760 So check out that. It's interesting because I think 1151 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,600 one of the reasons they've become more of a cult classic is 1152 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,760 a certain Mr. Clarkson said. It was the best car he's ever 1153 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,800 driven. That helps. 1154 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,960 Yeah, he's not an influencer, but he definitely is an 1155 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,480 influencer. We did say this is the best car 1156 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,600 podcast you'd ever. Heard he said that more than 1157 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,840 once, right? So it must be true, yeah. 1158 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,960 Pretty cool you. Know, yeah, he said. 1159 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,240 I hope those guys don't do a farming podcast because I'm 1160 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,800 screwed. That's right, put them out of 1161 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,560 business. Yeah, there we go. 1162 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,760 Let's go to meet him, Lindsay. A yellow Ferrari F50. 1163 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,960 Does that appeal? Actually, yes, yeah. 1164 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,560 So I would prefer a red, but I think the yellow is unexpected 1165 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,840 and fun. I will accept. 1166 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,960 I think you will find because it's 1 of 31, I don't know how 1167 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,600 many F 50s they made, obviously a lot less than the F40 and 1168 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:58,800 obviously it's the last manual. You know what was it? 1169 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,560 It was every 10 years they did a Halo card, didn't they? 1170 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,520 288 F, 40 etcetera. So I think because it's yellow, 1171 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,800 it's probably a special colour and it'll probably create more 1172 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,000 value. Yeah, yeah. 1173 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,160 That's what's a good investment. Yellow looks good on. 1174 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,800 Yeah, yes, yeah, it's a hit. Or mix colour. 1175 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,840 I remember being at car week one year and driving down the road 1176 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,880 and there were four F 50s coming the other way. 1177 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,480 Like that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. 1178 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,280 About car week. No, Yeah, I have to. 1179 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,760 So we've had a couple of people, a couple of friends of ours come 1180 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,720 up to us recently and say, you know, I've never been to Car 1181 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,720 Week. I just, I don't think it's for 1182 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,320 me, you know, This is why this is for you, because you see 1183 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,000 things like 4 F 50s, you know, roaring past you because you 1184 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,200 don't see that anywhere else. I know I was just thinking about 1185 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,640 it today kind of in passing. And I think one of the things 1186 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,080 that a lot of people don't realize is like you just said, 1187 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,480 Ryan, you can just walk around town. 1188 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,320 You don't have to go to any events. 1189 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,280 And one of my favorite things has been like the first night in 1190 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,520 town, just go walk through Carmel, you see some 1191 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,400 unbelievable stuff on the street or just driving to the different 1192 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,480 events. Probably 3-2 to three years ago 1193 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,560 there was this Armada of the like 6 by 6 G, There were two 1194 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:21,280 six by 6G wagons and one of the the 2 door cabrio. 1195 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,960 And then there was another unique one, and they would move 1196 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,000 all four of them just around town. 1197 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,840 Yeah, Landolay I think was one of. 1198 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,440 Them, yes, it was. That's what it was. 1199 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,000 And, you know, they're just driving around town. 1200 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,600 Yeah, that's crazy. There are there is a bit of a 1201 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,600 shake up going on this year at the auctions. 1202 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,000 So traditionally Bonhoms have been associated with the quail 1203 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,080 and it used to be a bit of an inside baseball thing where you 1204 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,600 could actually park at the Bonhoms auction and get into the 1205 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,480 quail instead of having to do the the quail car park. 1206 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,560 That's now stopped and they have moved Laguna Seca. 1207 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,880 So they will be for the first time doing their auction at 1208 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,520 Laguna Seca. Obviously they have a a few race 1209 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,240 car inspired or race inspired cars. 1210 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,800 And the one that called my eye was a in essence, it's an indie 1211 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,440 race car. Volstead I'm not sure if I 1212 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,080 pronounced that right. Lindsay, I don't know if the 1213 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,080 you're the expert on classic American Ford race cars. 1214 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:24,960 I try. Or just say, yeah. 1215 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,200 And the reason I I called this one out is that actually it was 1216 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,800 Jim Clark's last US race car before the following year he 1217 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,000 passed. He raced Dan Gurney in an Eagle 1218 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,320 in it. That's cool. 1219 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,360 So it's a pretty cool car. And from talking to Gordon 1220 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,640 Murray, Gordon said that Jim Clark was the best racer he's 1221 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,280 ever seen. And he worked with Senna, Prost, 1222 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,320 etcetera. So yeah. 1223 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,360 That's pretty special. So. 1224 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,560 That's that's first person listeners. 1225 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,880 That's that's right. That's Dan just talking with his 1226 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,520 mate Gordon. The big Gordon, yes. 1227 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,280 So that means that there is a void at the quail that has been 1228 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,160 fulfilled by Broad Arrow. So Broad Arrow have now slid 1229 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,360 into the quail and their auction will be where, you know, where 1230 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,720 the bottoms tent used to be. And as I said earlier, they've 1231 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,400 got a 400R, they've got three singers. 1232 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:30,440 Like has the boat now sailed on auction Singers because it's 1233 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,920 getting over saturated? Possibly. 1234 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,480 I mean, if they have three of them and the same, that's 1235 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,960 interesting. Obviously all the singers are so 1236 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,360 unique that maybe it doesn't apply in that sense because 1237 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,760 they're all so different from each other. 1238 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,320 Yeah, it's hard to say. I mean, because, you know, 1239 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,000 they're, they're fundamentally wonderful creations, right? 1240 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,560 So you know, it's not all hype, right? 1241 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,720 They're, they're pretty wonderful. 1242 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,920 But I, I don't know, you know, I mean, there's, you can only pump 1243 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,840 out so many right before things do get saturated. 1244 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,680 And I don't know if like every time I open up LinkedIn, they're 1245 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,440 hiring people. It's, it's like I, I don't think 1246 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,520 they're planning on slowing down anytime soon. 1247 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,800 So maybe they have kind of hit a an inflection point. 1248 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,840 Or I think if you wrote back a few years ago, I'm sure that 1249 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,520 you'd look at the auctions of Car Week and there would be like 1250 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,720 1 singer. Yeah, right. 1251 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,280 I don't remember there being multiple singers in any auction 1252 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,800 house, right? That's a few years ago, right. 1253 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,120 But well. It'll be fun to watch. 1254 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,440 Well, so, so Broad Arrow will be at the quail. 1255 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,640 So then will there be an auction associated with motor looks 1256 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,000 because that's where Broad Arrow has been in? 1257 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,320 The last few years, good question. 1258 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,560 I don't know. Yeah. 1259 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,480 Or has Motor Lux just sort of turned into this thing where, 1260 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,920 you know, I got the impression at least, especially last year, 1261 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,800 there was almost just too much going on in that space, right. 1262 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,120 And so maybe the focus wasn't a lot of distractions right from 1263 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:03,840 the auction, in my opinion. But you know, I I know Ken on a 1264 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,880 bit, you know, well, you know, he runs broad arrow. 1265 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,800 Maybe we should have him on after car week and and get his, 1266 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,760 his, his taken. Speaking of Mekam, we've got Sam 1267 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,760 Murtagh. He's the the chief operating 1268 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,720 officer of Mekam coming out next week. 1269 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:20,240 So yeah, car week focus for sure, but I, I'm very curious to 1270 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,240 get both, both his take and Ken's just on because how, how 1271 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,240 the the auctions are evolving, right? 1272 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,040 I mean, decisions like that aren't taken lightly, right? 1273 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,080 You don't just decide, oh, I'm going to move venues or 1274 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,280 whatever. I mean, this is very deliberate 1275 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,080 and and there's got to be a reason for that. 1276 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,960 I'm very curious how that all shakes out and why it all shakes 1277 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:40,800 out like it does. So. 1278 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,000 Yeah. Well, I mean that there is a 1279 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,160 little bit of history amongst these auction houses, right? 1280 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,640 Because the Amelia Island got bought by Haggerty. 1281 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,400 RM used to have premier spot, right? 1282 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,400 They used to have the best pitch there. 1283 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,800 And then one year, because Haggerty own Broad Arrow, 1284 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,400 Haggerty put RM in that position. 1285 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,960 And that is why we now have Moda down in Miami because RM went 1286 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,200 screw you guys. We'll do our own car event and, 1287 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,520 and this is well documented. So it's not like it's inside 1288 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,760 knowledge, so. Tell the people it is dude. 1289 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,399 Yeah, only on that car show, tell you. 1. 1290 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,479 But because you can next week you can ask about the yellow F50 1291 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,399 because they're they're starting that much many other cars. 1292 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,160 As far as you know, is RM at? Is it the Portofino? 1293 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,080 The hotel in Monterey again this year? 1294 01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:36,880 I think so. It's like mixed to the 1295 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,880 Conference Center, isn't it? Downtown yeah that's kind of a 1296 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,240 special because that's got a completely different vibe right 1297 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,720 that's just each and I think that's the neatest thing each 1298 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,479 one of these auctions whether it's good and whatever each one 1299 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,800 is a completely different vibe right The carbs are a little bit 1300 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,000 different it's you know completely different venue so 1301 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,080 it's worth checking them all out if you can because you you're 1302 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:56,359 gonna. Yeah, because they are so 1303 01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:58,439 different. It's not like, oh, if you've 1304 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,399 seen one, you've seen them all. Like you said, like the 1305 01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:04,000 Portofino has that wonderful outdoor kind of motor court 1306 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,120 where they can display them and you know, the other ones have 1307 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:10,200 all it's, it's very different, but cool and it's 1. 1308 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,880 Pro tip, go to the far reaches of these auctions, see what's 1309 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,600 tucked away in the far corners, and you're going to see some of 1310 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,640 the most interesting stuff. So nice. 1311 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,080 Yeah, maybe not the prettiest stuff. 1312 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,399 Or the. And then Gooding just to round 1313 01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:28,560 that off Gooding at it's good and Christy and they, they are 1314 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,640 actually on the golf course next to the golf course. 1315 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,399 So there's almost like a little village that gets built up 1316 01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:35,960 during car week and that's where they're located. 1317 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,040 So if you go and watch the car tour, which I think is on the 1318 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:45,359 Thursday, Thursday, you can go into Gooding at that point. 1319 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,080 So all the cars that are going to be on the lawn on the Sunday 1320 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:52,200 get go on a rally, basically 17 mile drive. 1321 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,680 And that's the prime location for where Gooding are. 1322 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,520 So you can go watch the cars leave and then go into Gooding 1323 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:03,960 and have a good look around. Good Thursday itinerary. 1324 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,560 Yes, yes. And then check out some of the 1325 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,000 houses, right? That's the other thing to go on 1326 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,160 the first day, go to the Range Rover house or yeah, the BMW 1327 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,240 house. Yeah, should be so lucky. 1328 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,400 Right. Yeah, again. 1329 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,440 I can't wait. I'm really looking forward to 1330 01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:21,480 it. It's it's now. 1331 01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:23,520 I've done it a couple of times. It's under my skin. 1332 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,880 It'd be very difficult to not. Yeah. 1333 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,000 It's. Well, I think we're at a show, 1334 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,760 aren't we? I think so. 1335 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,720 Good, good God we are. We're way over an hour. 1336 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,360 Time flies when you're having fun. 1337 01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:37,440 Well done. Exactly. 1338 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:38,680 It's. Good to have you back. 1339 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,840 I know. Yeah, it's good to be back. 1340 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:45,080 And yeah, it's. Let us know what you think about 1341 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,560 the auction cars. Let us know if you're crazy 1342 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,240 enough to be bidding on a Ferrari. 1343 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,160 Lucci, Maybe we want to unfriend you on LinkedIn. 1344 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,240 We want to be making informed decisions around here, right? 1345 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,400 Yeah, but yeah, I guess Lindsay, take us out with a phrase that 1346 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,880 pays. All right. 1347 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,840 Well, thank you so much for listening. 1348 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:11,320 We appreciate everybody being here and liking subscribing and 1349 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,320 sharing the show with your enthusiast friends. 1350 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,880 We always appreciate a five star review, of course, and remember 1351 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,880 to always be driving. And until next week, we're that 1352 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:21,360 car show.