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All right, everybody, welcome. 
Welcome. 

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Welcome. 
Somane, we are recording. 

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Yes. 
OK, cool. 

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This is only here to record it 
for posterity. 

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Also for Elias's mom. 
Actually, though, for real. 

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That's not a joke. 
She asked us to record it, and 

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we're doing it for Elias's mom. 
That's why we're all here sort 

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of so, so wow. 
Thank you all for being here. 

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Just this is so cool that you're
all here and we're packing out 

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the loft for our artist in 
resident Elias. 

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Let's hear it for him. 
So Elias started his residency 

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back in the fall and you know, 
we were we were overjoyed to 

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choose him for this residency. 
He's he's done so well with it. 

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He's gone through a faith and 
arts course with Sumani and he's

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been working really hard on his 
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And there's nothing that I love 
to see more than someone who is 

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just an artist who is obsessing 
over their craft and they're 

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going as deep as they can go 
into a singular idea. 

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And I remember we were meeting, 
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Elias was like, I'm really 
obsessed with like Magnolia 

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leaves and also the color brown.
And we, and we've been talking 

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about like all these other ideas
of things he could focus and 

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work on, but he was obsessed 
with these like detailed things.

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And, and we were. 
And it was just so clear that 

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that was the way to go. 
And I think tonight is is kind 

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of a culmination of that to a 
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But it's also like Elias sharing
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knowledge with all of us. 
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sure you felt this in your own 
life and career. 

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You get to this point where 
you're like, you feel like you 

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don't know anything. 
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you realize you have a lot to 
teach other people. 

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And so I know that that moment 
is happening for Elias tonight, 

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and I'm so glad you're all here 
to to take it all in. 

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So without further ado, Elias. 
Thanks, Steven. 

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That was really sweet. 
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Thank you so much for being 
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I'm really grateful for all of 
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I do want to say that I'm not an
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I am also not a pastor, so this 
is not a sermon and it's 

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definitely a work in progress. 
But I'm glad that you're here 

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because I wanted to invite you 
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hear what you had to share. 
All right, and we'll see if this

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clicker works. 
All right, So I, I am an artist.

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I have been mixing colour with 
clay and paint and pencils ever 

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since I was a child. 
When I think about colour, 

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oftentimes something like this 
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Still, I think about something 
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I might think about crayons or 
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and if you're like me, you will 
think of these things too. 

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But as I look at this screen, I 
cannot help but wonder, is this 

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really the level at which I was 
meant to think about color? 

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Otherwise, as Christians, we 
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We mostly talk about stewardship
with money, but we also talk 

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about it in terms of 
relationships and skills and 

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spiritual gifts. 
A few years ago I was studying 

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theology at La Brie, which some 
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ministry and this one is in 
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And I was wondering how 
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And just a series of simple 
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One, does the Lord command us to
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2 is color a gift? 
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how are we commanded to steward 
color? 

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What does that even mean? 
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That's kind of just been, I've 
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for a while. 
So since England, I had a good 

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conversation in England over 
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I've returned to DC where I've 
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been working on my oil 
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As you may know, I've read some 
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I have mixed colors and paints, 
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just wanted to see if I could 
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question of why does God make 
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So I'm going to define color 
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color as an artist, and then 
I'll be citing some theologians 

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and professors and a few pieces 
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this question for us. 
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language, a tool, and 3rd an 
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And I'm going to try to keep it 
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discussion because I do want to 
hear your thoughts. 

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So what is colour? 
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silly question, but it's 
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I mean, I guess we're, I'm still
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limited on my scientific 
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Artists talk about three things.
They talk about value, which is 

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the grayscale. 
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on your phone and you just turn 
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with black and white. 
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They talk about chroma, which is
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color that's present. 
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hue, and that's what we think of
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For the sake of this talk, I'm 
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don't want to sound snobby, but 
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So this is the colour wheel. 
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We've seen it since 
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I don't know about you, but I 
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color wheel to me in a way that 
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felt useful. 
I always just saw it as a pretty

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picture. 
This is called the Munsell color

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wheel model. 
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this guy, his name is Albert H 
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color theorist in the 19th and 
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three things that I defined 
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So we have value is a vertical 
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You can see hue is kind of this 
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blocks are on. 
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in, you know, one of these color
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and in the center is like this 
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It's kind of weird. 
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So here are some color schemes 
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color. 
I'm sure you all know these as 

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well. 
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better than I do. 
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schemes, we can see some 
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far as order. 
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that's complementary. 
We've got a, what's the name for

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a triangle that's not 
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Isosceles triangle that we have 
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And then we've got our triangle,
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And the monochromatic 1 might be
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least it was for me. 
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you can think about it, it's 
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just on a vertical axis, if that
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complementary. 
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neutrals in art. 
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American physicist named Ogden 
Nicholas Rude who writes about 

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this in his book on color 
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I have yet to figure out if he's
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this, but it's generally 
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colour harmony, if you take 
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other on the colour wheel and 
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a string of colours that are all
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And I think what's interesting 
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attentive to nature, you can see
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fish and plants and birds. 
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color that we see keep getting. 
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Here's another example of color 
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We've got the monochromatic and 
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I used the little ink blotter to
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like be legitimate, not just 
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You've got analogous here in 
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these pansies. 
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It shows something about our 
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the time. 
It's called, yeah, complementary

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muting. 
So this is Irises by Vincent van

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Gogh. 
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I'm not sure which paints he's 
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I'm guessing it's like cobalt 
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mixes together to create this 
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muted green in the background. 
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of is just the ratio of color. 
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lot. 
There's a common design ratio to

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balance kind of the presence of 
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603010. 
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about it in terms of hue, you 
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artwork be a dominant hue, 30% 
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color that you want to make pop.
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10% flesh, and you can notice 
similar things in these other 

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paintings. 
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Here we have a combination of 
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the 603010 ratio. 
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room just kind of strikes you as
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the harmony in using this color 
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as a guide to create something 
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this person. 
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We have three cone cells. 
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And this also makes us different
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Some people, this is a side 
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color exists on its own outside 
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because that's how our eye is 
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But there is an article from the
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depressed might not see color as
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Christians though? 
This was my question and for our

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answer 3 categories have come up
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out to me. 
Color is a language, it's a tool

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and it's an invitation. 
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Don't we all experience it 
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Well, I got to talk with Doctor 
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own Jared's mother from from 
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great conversation with her. 
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her about how people experience 
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She's an art historian. 
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Israeli American psychologist 
named Daniel Kahneman, who wrote

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this theory in he published this
theory that basically has two 

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categories or prompts for how 
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color. 
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says, is innate. 
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So we might have kind of a an 
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green as associating it with 
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nature, because of all the green
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because of blood. 
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that we respond to color because
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me, in our culture. 
So that's why we have system 2 

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prompts, according to this 
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And these are culturally 
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So we might think of red as 
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rose. 
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that individuals might have 
traumatic experiences with color

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and we might have good 
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too, so that that changes how 
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But regardless of this theory, I
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responses to colour. 
So if we pay attention, colours,

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tell us stories, we might notice
that people are not feeling well

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if they're the wrong color. 
Or when we're a giant looking at

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a watermelon, if there's kind of
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buying it because maybe that 
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When I was a teenager, just I 
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more personal, I had a a brief 
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And I remember 1 moment that 
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folding laundry in my room and I
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noticed that every single 
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And I had not planned that. 
I wasn't, I didn't think that I 

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was trying to be Moody, but it 
it told me something about 

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myself. 
So this is something that I want

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to ask you about at the end. 
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colors communicate. 
People communicate through color

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commenting on what a painter is 
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With a painting, so I won't try 
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this painting by Kupka, his 
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the yellow scale. 
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connotations with yellow are 
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We think of the sun maybe, but 
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kind of overpowering the, the, I
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self-portrait, the painter's 
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make him look kind of ill. 
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to look at. 
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on here, we know that something 
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this use of yellow. 
Am I going too fast also or. 

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OK, cool, thank you. 
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Smith helped me out with was 
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in our traditions. 
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and when we when we make a 
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think about the evergreens 
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that we will have in Christ. 
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holly, we can think about the 
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remember, help us remember the 
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We also use colors Don pointed 
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Gospel. 
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calendar to keep time. 
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All right, my second 
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Color is a tool. 
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use for good or evil. 
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professor, I'm going to butcher 
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who says that McDonald's is 
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red simulates appetite, because 
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excitement, and yellow we 
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being manipulated through color.
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Drug advertisements will also 
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try to get you to get on their 
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us psychologically. 
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Well, color can help us. 
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us to slow down and reconnect 
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I'm not sure about you, but I 
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looking at screens and it makes 
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We really call it virtual 
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important to be physically 
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that in light of today where we 
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Some of you will know this is a 
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Covenant College. 
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Weichbrought, and she wrote a 
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which you can see pictured here 
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It is about art, specifically, 
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Christians. 
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an Art Museum, but I think it 
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this talk. 
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called embodied vision, and she 
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a little while to walk through, 
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He meets us through Jesus, 
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through the Lord's Supper. 
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Weichbrought has a few steps. 
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intentionality, she says in her 
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Get up close, take a step back, 
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attention to how your body 
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Her second point is to 
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culture. 
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looking at something, we are 
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time and our place, and we can 
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symbolic of our finitude. 
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praise God that we are finite 
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things that we look at with 
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not understand all of the 
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But her Third Point is to begin 
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from a posture of love, then we 
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She cites James KA Smith, who 
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and our love is shaped, primed 
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practices that take hold of our 
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certain ends. 
That's that's James KA Smith's 

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quote. 
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practices and rituals that we 
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form our identity. 
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this, according to Doctor 
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she calls a color walk. 
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going on a walk and looking for 
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She would say, I, I think it 
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just, I'll look for blue. 
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saying I'll look for teal or 
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her surroundings and of how she 
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How else is color a tool? 
We can know and care for each 

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other through color. 
A few months ago, I had coffee 

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with Dawn Luke. 
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Luke, thank you. 
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seeing a friend and she was 
buying her friend purple flowers

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because she knew that her friend
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I have a few. 
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can think of that I know is a 
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And then whenever I I see that 
color, I will think of this 

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friend. 
So you might be able to do this 

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and just use it as an 
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I this doesn't really fit into 
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also want to say that the more I
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see it. 
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color a lot this last year. 
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my morning run, I've just 
noticed myself being kind of 

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struck by the beauty and the 
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the green of the trees and the, 
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however it looks that day. 
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appreciate individuality of 
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different we are, our different 
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And it helps to be sensitive, 
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aware of our surroundings. 
OK, My Third Point is that color

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abstract. 
So I'm asking you to bear with 

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me, but it's an invitation to 
marvel our Creator, worship God 

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OK, first one, our Creator pays 
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fall on the ground. 
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this church and I think I 
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when I read Jonah, I was really 
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animals and Jonah. 
He when God is talking to Jonah 

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about his compassion, he says, 
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in which there are more than 
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their right hand from their left
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Isn't that so sweet? 
God loves the people of Nineveh,

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but He also loves his cattle and
he pays attention to them and He

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expects Jonah to respect them 
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He cares for all the animals 
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how many animals there are, just
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know how many colors or hues 
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But I think the animals and the 
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he makes, and it shows his care 
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so many animals. 
I think they just show his 

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extravagance toward us. 
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invites us to is to worship and 
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I had no more pictures for this.
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of a woman, you know it, who 
anoints the head of Jesus with a

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very expensive ointment. 
I called Soleimani today to ask 

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if I could double check this 
language to make sure I was 

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speaking truth about this 
passage. 

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But she worships Jesus through 
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and Jesus in that story calls it
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The psalmist in Psalm 34 eight 
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Lord is good. 
Music is really important for 

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Christians, and we know that the
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music and we know that we can 
praise Him through creating 

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harmony and beauty and the 
sounds that we make. 

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I think that we can worship Him 
through color as well in the way

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that we arrange it and create 
harmony according to the 

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structures that He has built for
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The second point, I'm sorry that
I don't have more interesting 

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slides for this point. 
It's just the same. 

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But the second point here is 
that color can help us imagine. 

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Doctor Wyck Bro talks about how 
the Holy Spirit allows us to 

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imagine heaven through the art 
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I'm reading another book called 
Heaven that's written by Randy 

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Alcorn. 
I'm sure you know him, but he 

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wrote this great paragraph about
imagining heaven that I wanted 

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to share. 
He says we cannot anticipate or 

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desire what we cannot imagine. 
That's why I believe God has 

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given us glimpses of heaven in 
the Bible to fire up our 

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imagination and kindle a desire 
for heaven in our hearts. 

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And that's why Satan will always
discourage our imagination or 

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misdirect it to ethereal notions
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So color is an invitation to 
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Lastly, color is a way that we 
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God. 
God has been watching His people

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since the beginning of creation,
and He continues to watch us 

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today. 
Seeing is integral to His nature

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now. 
Doctor Wiper cites a lot of 

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examples of God seeing in 
Scripture, but one of them 

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struck me as really powerful 
that I wanted to share, and I'm 

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just going to read a direct 
quote because she tells the 

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story better than I could. 
In Genesis 16, the Egyptian 

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maidservant Hagar is on the run,
pregnant by her Master Abram and

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abused by her mistress Sarai. 
Hagar desperately flees into the

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desert, but as she rests by a 
spring, the Angel of the Lord, 

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speaking as God in the first 
person, addresses her directly 

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he tail. 
He tells Hagar to return to 

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Sarai and promises to bless her 
offspring, making them too many 

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to count. 
The son she carries will be 

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called Ishmael. 
God hears because God has heard 

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her distress. 
Then, for the time in the 

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biblical narrative. 
For the first time in the 

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biblical narrative, Hagar 
speaks. 

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You are El Roy, the God who sees
me. 

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Weichbrot says it like this. 
God seeing Hagar changes 

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everything. 
It makes her feel loved. 

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And from that knowledge, Hagar 
steps into obedience, confident 

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that her longings will be 
fulfilled. 

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So folks. 
Why does the Lord color 

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everything? 
I think this is a very 

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mysterious question and I don't 
have all the answers, but I 

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think the answer that I am most 
confident to give at this point 

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is because He loves us. 
Thanks for thanks for listening.

