1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Welcome to Remember 64, where this week we get ready to 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:38,520 crumble. Welcome to the show everyone, 3 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,840 whether this is your first time to remember 64 or you are a 4 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,960 returning listener or viewer. If you're looking at the YouTube 5 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,840 version of this, my name is David Pitrangelo and there is no 6 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,840 way I'm ready to crumble. I'm not some old crusty play DoH 7 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,480 sentient bean. I'm fresh, I'm squishy, I'm 8 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,880 flabby, and I can be easily molded. 9 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,160 That's my body type. And I'm jiggy. 10 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,760 Look back, Clay fighter, I'm gonna punch, I'm gonna kick and 11 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,760 then I'm gonna do some tricks. Clay fighter, Let's go. 12 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Pumped up, pumped up. Oh my God, this this week I am I 13 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,200 I'm surrounded by YouTube creators because Jiggy, you and 14 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,680 I are now also joined by a third person on this episode, Dead 15 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Forge. How are you Sir? 16 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,120 How's it going guys? Let's get sculpting. 17 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,680 We don't like it. I like. 18 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,400 It There we go. Yeah, there it is. 19 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Yes. If if anyone has to be you, 20 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,800 yeah. Awesome. 21 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Awesome. So, so great that we could have 22 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,680 the three of us together. You know there's when this 23 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,640 episode is releasing, if you're not hearing it when it first 24 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,360 comes out. We are picking this for a 25 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,040 particular reason. I'll get to that in just a 26 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,120 second. But if you haven't guessed yet, 27 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,680 we are talking Clay Fighter 63 and a third and Sculptor's Cut, 28 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,400 which is a very rare game, but we were able to at least get 29 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,520 some time with it through emulating. 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,200 So we'll talk about both of those games this week and one of 31 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,120 the reasons why we picked this is because there are two Holiday 32 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Winter characters in this There is Sumo Santa and Bad Mr. 33 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,800 Frosty, which face off against each other in these games. 34 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,120 So we figured, you know what, There's not a whole lot of you 35 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,360 know there isn't like some Santa game or very themed Christmas or 36 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,520 holiday season game on the N 64. Why don't we just get 2 iconic 37 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,600 characters that are kind of mean and look weird and just fight 38 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,480 each other? Clay fighter, why not? 39 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:47,680 Good excuse to play it so. Absolutely quintessential. 40 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Christmas Was that the the one character with the pumpkin head? 41 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,080 Oh, Ichibod Clay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 42 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,120 There we go. Yeah, I I played as that guy. 43 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,040 I played as that character a decent amount and I thought the 44 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,880 moves were like. I did two actually. 45 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,400 I don't know. He was actually pretty fun. 46 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,720 He was the first one I picked when I was playing it earlier. 47 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Oh, OK, yeah, there we go. We'll we'll get into characters. 48 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,880 We're going to get into our time with it before now, all of that 49 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,920 kind of stuff. One of the reasons again why we 50 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:17,000 had Dead 4 Draw is because you said you had a history with this 51 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,800 game. So that's great. 52 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,520 Always fun to to sort of bring people on that had history with 53 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,680 this back in the day as well. But before that jiggy, do you 54 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,560 want to queue it up? We have a soundboard item for 55 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,560 this as well. We have a history book 56 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,040 soundboard item. The history book. 57 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,920 Yeah, does it? Is it show up in the soundboard? 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,600 It should. Do do you mean? 59 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,200 I'm landing. We're heading back to October of 60 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,080 1997. There it is. 61 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,080 That was great. That was great. 62 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,200 We are. I knew it was there the whole 63 00:03:54,280 --> 00:04:02,840 time, Built up suspense. So yeah, so let's let's get into 64 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,880 a little bit of the history and development of this game or 65 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,040 these games, I guess. You know, there's not a ton to 66 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,600 say about them. I think a lot of what the 67 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,520 discussion is around these games in general, at least from my 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,200 understanding, is that there's two different versions and a lot 69 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,800 of people don't really know why. You know, it's sort of like this 70 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,440 weird thing where they only came out less than a year from each 71 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,560 other. What would be the reason for 72 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,240 that? Why are they so expensive 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,840 online? If you want a copy of it? 74 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:32,440 Like stuff like that. But it was made 63 and a third 75 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,480 and sculptor Scott, made by Interplay Studios. 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,040 I think that name sort of rang a bell when I was looking up the 77 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,160 development of this, but the the logo really hit me when it 78 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,480 popped up on the screen when I played it. 79 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,480 I'm like, Oh yeah, I know, I know this. 80 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,600 And that's because they've had their hands in a ton of games, 81 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,840 like over 100 when I looked. Up the list one of the biggest 82 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,480 90s computer game developers. Exactly. 83 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,880 So Dead Fortune, before we hit record, you were mentioning some 84 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,760 of the big titles and franchises they had their name in. 85 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,600 What were some of the ones that sort of popped into your head 86 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,720 that you knew about? Yeah, yeah, Like, you know, the 87 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,360 Fallout series, Balder's Gate. That's it. 88 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,240 I can't. But. 89 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:12,760 But I can't think of any of others. 90 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Actually, there are others. Those are huge. 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,800 Yeah, but those are the biggest ones. 92 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Those are the biggest ones exactly. 93 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,960 So now of course, as we sit here currently in 2023 when we record 94 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,640 this, Boulders Gate 3 is one of the biggest games of the year. 95 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,080 One of the most highly rated, enjoyed, you know massive game. 96 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,720 They made the first one. They also helped create the 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,560 first couple of Fallout games. Like before they were taken over 98 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:40,000 and and created the way that they are now by Bethesda and 99 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,360 everything. Like this studio has a huge, 100 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,880 huge pedigree. There are some stinkers, and 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,320 there's a decent amount of them as well. 102 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,080 They also had their hands in the Carmageddon games, which at 103 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,320 least the one in the 64 is very bad. 104 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,920 I'm not gonna beat around the Bush about that, but I don't 105 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,080 know, Jiggy, do you have any, like history with any of these 106 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,520 kinds of games? Like even like early fallouts or 107 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,520 anything like that? Or is it just like they're just 108 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,400 I'll? Tell you, I'll tell you what I 109 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,920 do have history with. So Interplay Titus, kind of same 110 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,520 thing because Titus bought him out, right? 111 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:19,400 And I had a very particular game on my Game Boy, and that was 112 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,760 Titus the fox. It was their mascot and it was a 113 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,200 little platformer. And I just remember you had to 114 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,680 go collect keys and open doors and it was cool. 115 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,760 It was. I I don't remember it being 116 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,920 particularly good, but I don't remember it being particularly 117 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,520 bad either. It's just one of those games 118 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,560 that I had in my Game Boy still to this day. 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,880 I was gonna pull it out of the closet to show it on screen, but 120 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,800 I opened my closet and I was like, there's a lot of stuff in 121 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,640 here. And I gave up. 122 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:48,920 Not worth it. It's OK. 123 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Sorry. We could show and tell. 124 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,680 You I was like, let's talk about it. 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,800 I wouldn't say that I have like a lot of history with Interplay 126 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,040 per SE, but you know, it hit me. They also did Wastelands like 127 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,400 they were the developers behind Wasteland as well, which is 128 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,280 probably one of the most impactful, like post apocalyptic 129 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,680 anything ever. I mean, it inspired Mad Max, 130 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,160 Fallout, and pretty much the post apocalyptic genre as a 131 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,280 whole. Yeah, yeah. 132 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,760 So that so that that's the thing, right. 133 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,880 Like they they have their hands in a bunch of different types of 134 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,840 games as well. I would say, Oh yeah, I would 135 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,040 say Fallout and Baldur's game, maybe it's it's, you know, 136 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,600 there's similarities there, but. Yeah, and but they were also, 137 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,480 they were behind Earthworm Jim, right? 138 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Yeah, which is, which is why he pops up. 139 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,240 I don't know which earthworm Jim. 140 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,160 I don't know if it's amazing. Wait, wait, WAIT. 141 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Interplay. He's in 63 and a third. 142 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,240 He's in, He's in. Oh, no, He's the one in 143 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,040 sculptor's cut, is he not? I believe he is. 144 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,920 He's in. He's in both. 145 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,200 He's in both. OK, I met. 146 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Yeah, he's in both. I played both and now. 147 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Interplay was mixed up. They were not a developer of 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Earthworm, they were one of the publishers. 149 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,640 Publishers, right? Yeah. 150 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:54,400 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Earthworm Jim comes as Interplay 151 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,480 is looking to develop new TV and film projects based on their 152 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,720 video game properties November 18th, 2021. 153 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,160 That was like a while ago. What? 154 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,840 What's happening? That's still. 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Wait, Earthworm or Interplay currently owns the rights to 156 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,360 Earthworm Jim, I think. And that's one of the tricky 157 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,760 reasons why we don't see Mr. Jim around anymore. 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Because because the interplay came back. 159 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,240 They're like a new studio once again. 160 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,400 They were reformed 'cause they have their hands in some boomer 161 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,760 shooters and stuff like that. Some more old school first 162 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,200 person shooters that are coming out recently. 163 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,200 Because I do have plenty of history with Earthworm Jim. 164 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,880 That's my boy right there. Oh yeah, and we're definitely 165 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,080 going to be playing that that 64 game for sure at some point. 166 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,400 I'm so. Ready for it? 167 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,400 I'm so ready for a game that's probably not good, or at least 168 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,559 so I hear. OK, so 63 and a third was also, 169 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,640 interestingly enough, supposed to also come out for 170 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,760 PlayStation, which I didn't realize, I just associated this 171 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,160 with. The Nintendo console was 172 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,760 supposed to be called Clay Fighter Extreme, and it was 173 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,280 supposed to come out at the same time, but it was not ready. 174 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,000 So they just completely cancelled it. 175 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,560 It wasn't delayed. It wasn't, you know, pushed back 176 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:03,160 or any of that. It was just, we're not doing it. 177 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,720 We made it for the 64. It's not going to be ready for 178 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,040 PlayStation. Let's just say screw it, we're 179 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,000 not going to make it. So that's a little unfortunate. 180 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,840 I think, you know, having something that's a bit of a 181 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,480 parody, which is exactly the point of this game or these 182 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,040 games. Yeah, it's supposed to be a 183 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,320 parody of fighters. We can talk about more in 184 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,640 details as to if that's successful or not in a little 185 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,640 bit, but I also. Heard that it was really hard 186 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,560 for them to make the 3D backgrounds look the way they 187 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,120 wanted to on the PlayStation for whatever reason. 188 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,120 And there there were multiple like they're basically weighing 189 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,480 the pros and cons of each version, and they decided the 190 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,040 Nintendo 64 was more geared toward what they wanted to make 191 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,280 with this game. So they've had their team focus 192 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,480 on that, and they they had two teams, right? 193 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,160 And they had their main team focus on the 64 version and then 194 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,080 they had the minor team focus on the PlayStation version and then 195 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,840 kind of just. That you know that actually 196 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,520 makes a lot of sense though given the the 3D tech for the 64 197 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,160 and the PS1. The the original PlayStation is 198 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,600 not as well known for the 3D tech as the 64 is, cause the 64 199 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,040 a lot of times had better, you know, implementation of that. 200 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,920 It was like, I don't know if you guys ever played Shadow Man, but 201 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,920 it was really well known as a PlayStation. 202 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,080 But it also came out in the 64, and the 64 is like the 203 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,760 definitive version of it until the obvious remasters recently. 204 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Gotcha. Better PlayStation One version. 205 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,000 I don't know. That's debated, I guess, but I 206 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 never played that one. Some people actually really, 207 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,280 really like that one. So but it seemed like 64 was the 208 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,360 most loved one it had. It even had some cut stuff that 209 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,520 was not in the other versions of the game. 210 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,080 But it also just played better than the PS1 version, which was 211 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,640 like slower, more clunky. It wasn't as good looking 212 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,640 either. It was a little bit more fuzzy 213 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,000 and stuff, but that could have been there obviously had to be 214 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,640 multiple teams developing out of the same studio, which probably 215 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,520 could have cut things thinner and they just kind of had to 216 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,480 prioritize one over the other. Yeah, it really seems like with 217 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,520 the PlayStation, the big draws the CDs, right? 218 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,120 Just having that extra storage space. 219 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,080 But other than that, just memory in general I would say, because 220 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,360 even the memory speed on the 64 is just it's utter garbage, but 221 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,360 everything else about the 64 was superior. 222 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,440 Yeah, which I mean that kind of is like, you know, I say that 223 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,680 about 3D tech, but you know we also got Spyro on the PS1 and we 224 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:29,400 got Crash and stuff like that, which are obviously awesome in 225 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,360 that regard as 3D platformers. But I think there was just 226 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,240 something about when it came outside of the platformer area, 227 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,040 the 64 really shined. I mean if you go to like a 228 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Golden Eye and different games like that, just the way they 229 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,000 were using it was a little bit more, you know, a little bit 230 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 better. They just they didn't have quite 231 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,120 the the graphical prowess that PS1 had though. 232 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,640 And if you want to hear all the history on Goldeneye, definitely 233 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,480 go check out the episode. We did that. 234 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,560 That was, that was an amazing episode. 235 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:00,760 And Dave, what did you want to share about the Golden Eye 236 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,640 episode? What was it? 237 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,880 Was it your most shared episode ever? 238 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,360 It was so as of 2020, in 2023, it is the most shared episode 239 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,160 that the show has had from day one, honestly. 240 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,920 So it's it's the one that's I get somehow, you know, the whole 241 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,920 like Spotify rap thing that happened because I upload the 242 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,440 the show through that service, it calculates it somehow, I 243 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,240 don't know, and it says that the Goldeneye episode was the most 244 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,240 shared one that the show had this. 245 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Year, but I wonder if it got a if it got a boost from the RE 246 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,680 release of Golden. It was. 247 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:36,920 It was all around that time, like it was just I think like a 248 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,760 month after or something when it released. 249 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,520 We had a great guest it. Was it's a great episode. 250 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,800 It's just Goldeneye, you know, like it's. 251 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,200 Just I'm in it. Chiggy's in it so. 252 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,720 So Speaking of Goldeneye, I mean that is a little off topic, but 253 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,360 have you seen agent in 64? I have I have that on my wish 254 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,880 list that is something that I am I that is on on my queue so. 255 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,680 Looks very good. Yeah it's like a a modern not 256 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:07,240 modern version but modern ish take on yeah more Golden Eye and 257 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,720 and Perfect Dark was but with sort of like some newer ideas 258 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,800 and stuff. So yeah, it looks it looks 259 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,280 pretty cool. I mean, that's someone that. 260 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,240 It's like if you kind of like it was more modern, like Perfect 261 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,760 Dark, but trying to be, yeah, more Golden Eye. 262 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Yeah, it's. And it's still trying to be like 263 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,560 a, you know, mid to late 90s type of game. 264 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:29,680 It just looks a little flashier, a little cleaner or something, 265 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:32,120 but still kind of blocky and still kind of looks like it 266 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:32,800 feels the same. Way. 267 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,680 And so here's a Here's a good opportunity. 268 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:36,800 We're talking about first burn shooters for a second. 269 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,120 Yeah, kind of like to go back to Interplay for a quick minute. 270 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,760 They also, they're not done with making bad games. 271 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,760 They just released Kingpin Remastered, and apparently it's 272 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,160 pretty bad. Nice. 273 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Haven't even heard of it. Maybe that's a good thing. 274 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Well, apparently the OK, well, to put it into perspective, the 275 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,320 original was made by the people who made Redneck Rampage, which 276 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,080 also wasn't well known as a good game. 277 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,520 So I I remember playing the demo of that over and over again at a 278 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,880 buddy's place. That is a weird, weird, effing 279 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,400 game. I mean. 280 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:11,920 It's both of them seem to be like those they're kind of like 281 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,160 cult classic first person shooters, but they were never 282 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,040 regarded as good. Yeah, yeah. 283 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,600 I don't think it. I I don't remember. 284 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Even by the fans. Yeah. 285 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,360 Even by people who like it. Yeah, OK. 286 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,880 So 63 and a third Sculptor's Cut, they're, they're kind of 287 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,440 the same game. We'll talk about a little bit of 288 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,200 the differences. But before we do that, I want to 289 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,000 make sure that we, I don't know, Dead Forge if you saw it or 290 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Jiggy if you did when you were, if you played it or not. 291 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,680 But I have the intro to Sculptor's Cut because one of 292 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,720 the differences that I had. Watched it. 293 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,760 It's amazing. It's great. 294 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,840 So one of the differences that Sculptor's Cut, which is over 295 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,640 63, and a third, is that they created like this musical intro 296 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,080 and I sort of gave you an idea of what the story is, I guess. 297 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,280 So I'm gonna open that up. It should work. 298 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,040 Let me just grab it here. Hang on, turn the sound on. 299 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,760 If you guys can't hear it, let me know. 300 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,560 But I'm going to hit play and it should work. 301 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,360 A meteor crash when they turned muddled creatures into clay with 302 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,920 fuels bent on doing right and twisted bows up for the fight. 303 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Clay by to what they set the stage. 304 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Clay by to Clay is all the way, and they have went along fear, 305 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,920 but not about. Heroes have their way and force 306 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,240 the evil goons to parry Clay by John, clone by clone, returning 307 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:54,920 back Clay by. John, what a great segue from 308 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,080 that intro into the main menu. Yeah, that's awesome to. 309 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,680 Me. So yeah. 310 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,160 So basically Mr. Bad, Mr. Frosty just smokes the screen and 311 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,760 cracks it. Open it, it it looks pretty, it 312 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,600 looks like kind of, you know, it's obviously just a goofy it. 313 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600 I'm playing the game now. We are sitting here and watching 314 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,200 you just just a heads up, you're gonna watch me get my ass kicked 315 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,440 multiple times 'cause when I first started playing this game 316 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,040 I sucked. I was terrible. 317 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,280 So anyways, that's what we're watching. 318 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,720 So I I just got done playing 63 and a third, like, you know, not 319 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,560 that long ago. And so The Sculptor's Cut looks 320 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,920 graphically a little bit better. I think it's a little cleaner. 321 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,360 More Yeah, a little. It also has a little bit more of 322 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,440 a cartoony flair to it, and the camera angles are different. 323 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,760 It's interesting. Just got my ass kicked. 324 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:47,240 See. Boom. 325 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,040 That was quick. I hit. 326 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,120 Hit the guy like once. I'm so bad at this game. 327 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,560 Also looks like it has more characters too. 328 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,120 It does. There's a couple more 329 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,680 characters. So OK, so Clay Fighter 330 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,880 Sculptor's Cut was released as a Blockbuster Video rental 331 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:06,440 exclusive only in North America on May 15th of 98. 332 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,280 So this is America. Merca. 333 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:14,040 This is Merca. This is as the Canadian says 334 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,599 that like I should be America. Right. 335 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,079 North American Whatever. I I mean, we technically. 336 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:25,200 We had, we had Blockbuster. I I would be surprised if more 337 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,920 than five copies were in Canada at the time. 338 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,360 So so this came out less than a year after and because of this. 339 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,440 Like this is similar to the Indiana Jones and the Infernal 340 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Machine game that I've also covered on the show. 341 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,640 It wasn't exclusive the blockbuster, but this was. 342 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,640 So if you look up what you would pay if you wanted a copy of this 343 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,480 game right now. I went, oh, it sits up there. 344 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Yeah, I went. So I went on price charting, 345 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,800 which is a sort of pulls prices from eBay and other sort of 346 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,720 places and gives you an average, gives you a bar of how like the 347 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,480 value quote UN quote has gone up or down on particular games. 348 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,360 They have comics, they have VHS and games and stuff like that. 349 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:09,600 Anyways, price charting has a low price, low for just the 350 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,760 cartridge at $1100. Nice. 351 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:21,400 That is stupid. Yeah, like straight up stupid. 352 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,880 OK, do you get? I get that it's rare, but it's 353 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,520 also a game that's widely considered. 354 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,200 Not great. Exactly right. 355 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,680 So. No one's gonna buy it. 356 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,520 That's the thing. Yeah, Jiggy, you have the 357 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,080 document in front of you. I don't know if you're looking 358 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,240 at this part of it or not, but if you're not, I have a question 359 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,040 and I wanted to quiz you on this. 360 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,600 If the cartridge alone is $1100, what do you guys think? 361 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,360 Is the complete like if the box, the manual and the game 362 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:48,880 together? What do you think that price? 363 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Oh, complete inbox. Are we talking unopened or 364 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:51,840 opened? Opened. 365 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,680 Opened. Yeah, wild. 366 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,200 Guess what? About somewhere, somewhere in 367 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,200 the ballpark of $4000. OK, dead forge. 368 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,440 I'm gonna go 5. Five. 369 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,160 You guys are both under as of according to price trading right 370 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,680 now $5200 under. Yeah. $5200 right now, so that 371 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,720 is and that's an average. You were closer. 372 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,720 Yeah. So Dead Forge wins, you get to, 373 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,360 you get to be the next contestant. 374 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,480 The price is right. Yeah, you get to spin the wheel 375 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,400 on, the price is right. You're in the the Showcase 376 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:26,280 Showdown, so you don't wanna, yeah you don't wanna copy of 377 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,160 this game 'cause the price is right, can't even pay for it. 378 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,440 So, so, so much for that. I mean, sorry, I got a copy of 379 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,880 the other one, it's OK. Right, you have you have 63 and 380 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,600 a third. I would show it, but it's it's 381 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,240 it's over here somewhere and I can't. 382 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Why? Why it's this expensive is 383 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,640 really just the reason 'cause it's rare. 384 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,920 Should it be? I don't know. 385 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,640 Whatever, I mean it's. So what is the? 386 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,080 What is the regular game go for? I didn't really look at the. 387 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,320 It's a normal, it's a little bit more than average I would say. 388 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:57,120 I think just because Sculptor's cut is also inflated but I don't 389 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,760 have it written down, but but it's it's not a few $100 just 390 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,760 for the cartridge or something crazy like that, right. 391 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,400 So OK, so some of the differences, why they made these 392 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,880 two games, why they made an exclusive, whatever, I don't 393 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,320 know business decisions, who knows. 394 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,280 But the difference is Sculptor's cut. 395 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Got rid of the Killer Instinct combo system, like that sort of 396 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:24,280 control scheme that's not in there anymore and there's no 397 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,880 combo Breakers as well, which is a little bit strange, but I 398 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,800 guess if you lose 1 system, kind of have to lose the other new 399 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,720 menus. OK, it. 400 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,960 Was very strange as an exclusive, so. 401 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,520 It's so weird. And then four new characters. 402 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,800 There are new characters in this. 403 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:43,360 That includes, I think, the, the clown character and the Is it 404 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:46,400 the, Is it the the. Three kids that stack on each 405 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,680 other. Yeah, one, I think. 406 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,240 It looks like it plays more like a crappy Street Fighter. 407 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,440 In sculpted cut. Versus the original, where the 408 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,000 original plays very much like a crappy Killer Instinct so. 409 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,600 It just it's just crappy. It's just. 410 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,480 Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean it at. 411 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,400 The end of the. Day. 412 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,680 So I'll give it this. It is crappy. 413 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,560 It looks bad, even for the time, but it does have character. 414 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,600 OK, it is interesting and unique and if it would have had a 415 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,840 longer development time, bigger budget and wasn't like in one of 416 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,080 the roughest periods of the studio's life, then it might 417 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,400 have been good. Yeah. 418 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,560 So yeah, other differences are new voices. 419 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,920 That's fine. Whatever the intro sequence, 420 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,440 like we talked about, there's small things like the story mode 421 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,160 is kind of in it. I guess that's because they made 422 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,560 the intro. They have to make story mode. 423 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,160 I don't know. Well, the in the in the first, 424 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,680 in 63 and a third, you don't know what the story is. 425 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,880 There is no story. It's just fight and go. 426 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,280 And then at the end they give you like some little synopsis of 427 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,360 the characters if you beat it. But then sculptor Scott actually 428 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:57,000 gave you a plot and they're like this is the plot. 429 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,040 So it was kind of, yeah, that was kind of cool. 430 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240 It made it at least have a little bit of a story. 431 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,000 Well, for $5200 you can have a story, a box and a manual, so 432 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,680 that's nice. And an inferior combat system. 433 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,800 An inferior combat. Yeah. 434 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,840 Win, win, win. Yeah. 435 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,360 No kidding, right. OK, so let's that that's kind of 436 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:17,960 the gist of the way things are here. 437 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,800 I I think, you know, let let's talk a little bit about, let's 438 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,000 talk a lot about the game itself because. 439 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,200 The game on the gameplay that's playing, it was the taffy guy 440 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,240 and he beat, he beat, he beat you or whatever. 441 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,560 And he's like this candy can do so stupid. 442 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,640 It's so dumb. I love it. 443 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:48,320 It's so dumb the the game itself is yeah, it's just AI think. 444 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,280 Hey, hey, there's my boy. There he is. 445 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,680 There's Mr. Ichabod Clay, or whatever it's called. 446 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:56,920 Yeah, so I'll ask you guys first. 447 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,000 Dead Forge, I'll go to you first. 448 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,680 Like you had the more of a history with this game with 63 449 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,240 and a third. What do you remember about it 450 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,440 before you picked it back up, and then what to just kind of 451 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,080 see afterwards once you played it again? 452 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,720 So when I played, it was way, way, way, way, way after its 453 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,640 initial release. I mean it came out before I was 454 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:24,760 born, so gotcha. But I I played it so my, my 455 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,440 younger brother and sister both got Nintendo 60 fours at one 456 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,680 point. I hadn't had one for a while at 457 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,320 this point. And they got this game, 458 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,640 Goldeneye, a bunch of other games. 459 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,080 And I was like, as a big, you know, I'm a huge Mortal Kombat 460 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,560 fan, love fighting games. And I was like, I want to play 461 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,640 that. That's a fighting game that 462 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,960 looks cool, you know? Yeah. 463 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,520 And it was just unique. Clay Fighter 63 and a third, you 464 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,680 know, it just stands out. And I played it and I was like, 465 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,800 oh, this is actually really cool. 466 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,960 And I I mean, I genuinely had a good time with it. 467 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,160 Oddly enough. It kind of, you know, it was a 468 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,960 very like killer instinct like game. 469 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,840 And I had a good time. Like me and my siblings played 470 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,200 it and stuff, you know, and it's not we didn't play it like a 471 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,920 lot, but we played it here and there and and it kind of like 472 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,480 was one of those games that kind of stuck with me because of its, 473 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,600 its characters and its art style and it's clay and you know, it's 474 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,560 unique and different. But that wasn't that was about 475 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,960 the only thing you know, 'cause, I mean, it didn't have a story 476 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,400 really. It didn't have much more than 477 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,480 just fighting. It didn't. 478 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,240 I mean, had very little, if any voice acting, right? 479 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,960 And. Really just when they when they, 480 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,760 like, hit each other, or when the. 481 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,400 The Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, he. 482 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,240 Says something. And it doesn't really have. 483 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,480 I wasn't really have. Intros per Southeast. 484 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,160 The characters don't shut up. I was gonna say that, yeah, 485 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560 actually. Actually, we have a sound board 486 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,560 for that. Do you wanna? 487 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,360 Do you wanna where? Where? 488 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:49,080 Which one is it? Here. 489 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,480 Yeah. Yeah. 490 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,800 Oh, yeah, it is. Is it under girly combo? 491 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,800 Maybe it's under that one. Here we go. 492 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:00,720 Wait, wait, wait. Very little girly combo. 493 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,920 Yeah, exactly. So, well, they, yeah, they have 494 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,120 that kind of stuff, I guess, Yeah. 495 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,480 And I guess there's no. Significant dialogue. 496 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,720 No, no. Well, yeah, I mean it was, it 497 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,360 was kind of interesting. And then going back and playing 498 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:17,640 it, I played it earlier today. And I mean, it still has that 499 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,400 character, but it's, I can definitely now see how poorly it 500 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,560 aged, right. Yeah. 501 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,000 And not playing an emulation. I played it on a Nintendo 64, 502 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,680 and emulation is probably the better way to go, you know. 503 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,240 But I do like the, like the combo system's genuinely pretty 504 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,400 good. Like it's it's it's pretty 505 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,560 decent, like right up there with Killer Instinct or something. 506 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,640 Like it's it's pretty fun to do combos and the moves are cool, 507 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,040 but it doesn't it it feels a lot clunkier than your average 508 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,080 fighting game, which is not something that you want in a 509 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,720 fighting game. And it's pretty I don't think it 510 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,000 runs very well either. It's pretty. 511 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,840 It's pretty clunky Like it it it is like it does, it honestly 512 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,160 does feel like there's pieces of clay moving. 513 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,120 Like. Like, they're they're a little 514 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,520 sticky, you know, they stick to the ground a little bit too 515 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,520 much. Like, I don't. 516 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,560 I doubt that's intentional, but. Probably not, but maybe. 517 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,200 It's so it's interesting because I played mostly Sculptor's Cut, 518 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,920 just because it's the one that I had loaded up for the most part. 519 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,880 And whatever I played that. It's interesting that you say 520 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,360 that for 63 and a third, like as much as the combo system and the 521 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:28,600 fighting seems to is probably better there because it has that 522 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,880 Killer Instinct combo system. But you still felt like it was 523 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,160 kind of chunky a bit. Yeah, Sculptor's cut is very 524 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,520 chunky. It's so weird, 'cause the 525 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,000 changes that they made, they're like, oh, we made a Killer 526 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Instinct like game, Let's take that away and make a Street 527 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080 Fighter like game so we don't have the same type of combos and 528 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,200 stuff. And Street Fighter's just 529 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320 faster, smoother, snappier. So Sculptor's cut well. 530 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,640 And and also the like the camera is different. 531 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,880 So like in the Sculptor's cut like you're showing right now 532 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,080 like it's it's that more zoomed out Street Fighter look, whereas 533 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,840 in 60 and a third is a little bit more zoomed in kind of 534 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,560 closer like Killer Instinct where you don't see as much of 535 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,040 the arena and it's you know, I mean it also even is like semi 536 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,320 3D at times because the it'll rotate like when you're fighting 537 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,720 and it'll kind of move like this and you'll get different angles 538 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,040 of stuff. Yeah, yeah. 539 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Kind of like some of the rooms kind of have some corners you go 540 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,600 around or whatever, yeah. Some of the rooms, the places 541 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,320 have like transitional things, right? 542 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,680 Where you like, hit, hit the enemy, they go flying through 543 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,080 the wall, they go flying through the doorway. 544 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,360 And I actually, normally I would love those, but in this game I 545 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:39,040 dislike those because they were like you. 546 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,600 You would hit it, you'd bounce into the other room, it would 547 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,000 like stop the game play for a second to do that, and then 548 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,200 you'd be on the other side. You could accidentally hit them 549 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,000 back and keep them in the cycle of going through the doorway. 550 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600 This happened to me. This legitimately happened to me 551 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,360 in the in the Laffy laffy taffy guy, whatever he is in that like 552 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,600 candy factory in that room. I was fighting the clown guy and 553 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,200 I like punched him and he went through the door and fell and 554 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,400 then I was on the other side. I punched him again, he went 555 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,360 through the door and fell. I did it like three times in a 556 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,240 row and I was like I stopped fighting and backed away so I 557 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,440 could get out of that corner so I would be able to continue the 558 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,520 fight. It just. 559 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,000 Took it looks like. It looks like The Sculptor's Cut 560 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:24,720 has some of that, a little bit of that 3D camera, 'cause it 561 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,440 looks like even in this arena, like you're kind of going around 562 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,480 it, even though it's still trying to stay 2 dimensional, it 563 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720 kind of goes like that. It's a little bit less so than 564 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,560 the original, but it's still pretty similar. 565 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,840 It's still there. You're still technically 566 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400 fighting on a 2D plane, but the camera kind of just like swerves 567 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,800 in a circle is kind of what it is. 568 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320 They still have the transition things and part of the problem 569 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,200 jiggy with like the transition stuff, like in other fighting 570 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,880 games, it's like, OK, that's cool because it does extra 571 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,680 damage or now you're in a new area and you can do new things 572 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,280 and but it doesn't really do anything in this. 573 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,680 And the problem is too, if you knock someone through a door, 574 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,880 for example, or through a wall or something like that, and you 575 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,600 keep knocking them back and forth like you said you were 576 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,720 doing, you're gonna do like no damage. 577 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,480 It's not a significant move. It yeah, it sucks. 578 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,760 It actually kind of sucks. Yeah, it's cool to see something 579 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,720 different. Literally. 580 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,760 I had to stop doing it. I had to stop doing it because I 581 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,920 was getting nowhere and I was like, I want to beat this. 582 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,480 It was. Awful I I. 583 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,240 It was awful. OK, tell us why this was awful. 584 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,960 I want to hear what what your experience was. 585 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,040 It sounds like it was awful. OK, OK, OK, OK, OK. 586 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,800 So I the only history I have with this, my cousins had this 587 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,400 game growing up and I went over to the house and we played it 588 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,440 like once or twice. OK, OK, and I just need to get 589 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,600 this out here. So BLOB the guy that was the. 590 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,880 Green. Guy BLOB A played his BLOB 591 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,720 because I thought it was snot Earthworm Jim's little buddy. 592 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,960 And I found out it was not like all my life I've thought that's 593 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,200 not. And I was like, Oh yeah, Clay 594 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,920 Fighter has snot an Earthworm Jim. 595 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Like that's awesome. And I would always play his BLOB 596 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,440 or Snot as I thought. And then going back to it, 597 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,960 realizing it's not snot and it's an original character named 598 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,720 BLOB. My world was devastated. 599 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,960 I instantly was like, I'm not going to have a good time 600 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,600 playing this game. I was just so upset. 601 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,600 And then if you play Sculptor's Cut, fun Facts, so characters 602 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,200 that are not unlockables in the first game, some are unlockables 603 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,040 in Sculptor's Cut. So like starting out, I didn't 604 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,840 have Earth from Jim. Yeah. 605 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,040 I actually entered a cheat code to get Earthworm Jim, but I was 606 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,640 like annoyed that I had to do that. 607 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,480 It was. His default near the original. 608 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,920 Yeah, exactly. I wanted him. 609 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,720 I remembered him being default. I remembered that because my 610 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,200 cousin said 63 and a third, but I was playing sculptor's cut 611 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,280 this time around. But my experience, I remember 612 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,920 playing it and I'm just thinking like from a fighting game 613 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,400 perspective, like it wasn't, it wasn't bad, but it was very 614 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,520 mediocre. I I felt like the the combo 615 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:09,240 meter filled really fast and I was just doing a lot of combos, 616 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,800 but I did our special moves. But actually, I felt I should 617 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,640 rephrase that. I felt like I was getting hit 618 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,400 with a lot of special moves and like, you're fighting Boogerman 619 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,120 right now. He was a terrible culprit 620 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440 because he would do this farting spin move where he'd go in the 621 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,320 air. And I like every time I'm like 622 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,520 just trying to not get chained with attacks like 40 times in a 623 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,320 row. And I I don't know about you 624 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,960 guys, but like entering the combos and like trying to figure 625 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,960 out what does the special move was hard for me. 626 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,280 Like I'd be like normally you could do like oh you go left 627 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,320 right joystick, AB or something like some combination that you 628 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,000 can kind of figure out. Naturally there was none of 629 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,520 that. I mean I was like I would be 630 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,200 button mashing and I'd be like OK, I think it's, I think it's 631 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,200 working. I don't know. 632 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,480 And then I'd it'd be hit or miss. 633 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,640 But that was one thing I was just. 634 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,160 It seemed pretty inconsistent, yeah. 635 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840 Yeah, it just felt really sluggish. 636 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,480 What was cool though to me, and this is just because there's, I 637 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,440 don't play a lot of fighting games on the 64. 638 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Oh, we will. Obviously Smash Bros Yeah, 639 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,960 right, obviously Smash Bros. But like, this really is the 640 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,200 only other fighting game that I I don't even know what else is 641 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,880 on there besides like 3D ones. I mean like 2D fighters like 642 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480 this in the traditional sense, like fighting games. 643 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,960 I I realized that the 64. Controller laid out in Mortal 644 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,680 Kombat. Probably. 645 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,680 Oh yeah. Killer Instinct. 646 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,840 I forgot about that one. Yeah. 647 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,960 And I don't think I've played Mortal Kombat on the 64. 648 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,640 I've played it on other things, but not the 64. 649 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Play the Play the gold edition or whatever it is. 650 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,040 Yeah, told you or whatever. Don't. 651 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,720 Play for combat. 4 is not very good. 652 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,080 Yeah, 4 is not good. OK. 653 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,200 Yeah. Gold is better than four. 654 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,240 Looking at the controller like it's this realization I had 655 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,440 because I was thinking about the controller and just how many 656 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,720 different ways you can hold it and use it and the way they 657 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,560 design the controller. And I'm like this is perfect for 658 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,680 fighting games. I can use the D pad I hold it's 659 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,960 not 6 button lay the layout. Yeah right you got B left, up A 660 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,360 down right. And I was like that's so cool. 661 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,800 I never realized that. And then you have an easy like R 662 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,360 button press which does like nothing. 663 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,800 You just move backwards a little bit. 664 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640 Yeah, it's that that really. Is super cool The the sort of 665 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,840 argument that like people like the six button Genesis or Mega 666 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,160 Drive controller over over the three button because it was more 667 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,680 versatile, it was better for fighting. 668 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,600 It's basically. I was gonna say the kind of like 669 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,680 that I just recently got a Sega Saturn and it has the six 670 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,440 buttons. It looks like the looks like a 671 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,960 like an arcade like button layout, yeah, and it's pretty 672 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,480 perfect for that stuff cuz I have Virtua Fighter two on it 673 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,720 and it's pretty fantastic. Those are good fighting games. 674 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,240 Those fighting games are fun, at least for that era, for sure. 675 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,960 Also, I didn't know there was a hand in the game. 676 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:59,760 Yeah, it's like, is it it in you can't play as it though, I don't 677 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,480 think. Is it you can? 678 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,720 Oh, you can. OK. 679 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,520 Enter a cheat code. OK, I don't remember. 680 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600 I didn't enter any cheats. I I should have played around 681 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,040 with the cheats I was going to and I did not. 682 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,080 I did in 60. Yeah, I mean, it looks like it's 683 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,000 a reference to Adam's fan from Adam. 684 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,000 You get a big thumbs down. Yeah, you get a big thumbs down 685 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,920 when you lose, yeah. They say really stupid things. 686 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,400 I'm going to beat you. I had, I had very little 687 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:29,040 experience with this game. I don't know if I definitely 688 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,480 played the Super Nintendo version. 689 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,560 One of them, I don't know which one also. 690 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,760 Then I picked a character or pick random character for the 691 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,600 next time and I got the same character and I was like really 692 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,080 come on, game it. Happened earlier too. 693 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:43,440 Yeah, it's just really. I think, I think you played 694 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,560 Ichabod Clay quite a bit. I did. 695 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,560 I it was the only one. So when when I'll get to in a 696 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,199 SEC with jiggy when you're talking about like not being 697 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,280 able to like pull off the combo stuff or whatever. 698 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,400 It's the only one that even when I button mashed I kind of had an 699 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,600 idea of which one I was gonna do. 700 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,960 It's the only character I could do it with all the oh and then 701 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,320 and then BLOB a little bit too but which I think probably the 702 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,080 video will show that I I play as BLOB BLOB a little bit as well. 703 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,640 I think I recorded that. Anyways, I remember this series 704 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,680 from the Super Nintendo because I spent more time in fighting 705 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,760 games on the superintendo that I did on the 64, similar to you 706 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,040 Jig I I played a few on 64, but a lot of it was, you know, if I 707 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,680 was going to play multiplayer against someone, it was Mario 708 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,640 Kart, it was Diddy Kong Racing, it was Mario Party, it was those 709 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,720 types of things, right? And this game I knew of, I knew 710 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,040 it was about a 2D fighter and the characters are kind of goofy 711 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,920 and whatever. And I knew it was probably a 712 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,680 parody but like, I was like, all right, I'll just, I'll try it 713 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,600 again and and see how it goes here. 714 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,680 Since we're doing the episode, I guess I'll put myself through 715 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,840 it. I suck so bad at this these 716 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,400 games. I'm just so and I think that 717 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,680 sours my experience a bit because I do think it's it's not 718 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,640 a they're not great games, I don't think, but I don't think 719 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,160 they're they would be as bad if I was a little bit better like I 720 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:03,800 think. I hear you. 721 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,280 I was. I also suck. 722 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,160 Yeah. I was like, I couldn't I I 723 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:09,880 wasn't doing good. No, I I I went tried to go 724 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,000 through it at normal or whatever the middle difficulty is. 725 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,080 And it changes to easy 'cause I did the same thing. 100%. 726 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,480 Hasn't changed it to. I wasn't really trying to beat 727 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,920 like the latter or whatever, but I was doing OK. 728 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,840 But it it just it feels like you're playing in slow motion. 729 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,520 Yeah, and and that's that the, the gist of the yeah, the gist 730 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,280 of the gameplay is just fight, do combos, whatever, move on to 731 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,400 the next. That's fine, right? 732 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,880 That's just the way it is. But yeah, it feels like which 733 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,200 is. Fine, You know what I mean? 734 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,120 Like, that's kind of how most funny games are, right? 735 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,000 But exactly. It's just not as engaging as 736 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,640 others. It doesn't feel as empowering as 737 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,720 others. It doesn't feel as fluid or 738 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,240 impactful or anything really. Or so stylish. 739 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,960 And I think because some of the combos and because like your 740 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,280 combo meter or your special meter does fill up a decent 741 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,520 amount. It would be nice if when you 742 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,280 pulled those off or if you could pull them off, they felt more 743 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,360 satisfying. Because you can set off these, 744 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,560 you know, ten hit combo things with just one move and then it 745 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,000 takes off a tiny lick of health that does almost nothing. 746 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,360 A regular move usually does more like a two hit combo usually 747 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,200 does more. And then after that I'm just 748 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,840 sort of jumping and and trying to kick, jumping and trying to 749 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,080 punch. Oh low, low hit. 750 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,280 I mean it just. It just comes down to like how 751 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:34,600 much of A just like a kind of crappy clone that they were, you 752 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,240 know, I mean, because they were just trying to do the killer 753 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,840 instinct meter that would usually do some cool stylish 754 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,400 kind of move and like and those look. 755 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,000 Crazy, right? And they have. 756 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,400 Those were great, and those were cool. 757 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,960 They were even impressive for then. 758 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,880 You know, even they were probably one of the first people 759 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,840 to do something like that. Like Street Fighter didn't 760 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,160 really do much of that. Mortal Kombat didn't really do 761 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,800 that. That was kind of a very killer 762 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,360 instinct thing. Now every fighting game does 763 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,640 something like that. But yeah. 764 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,600 You know, clay fighter was like, hey, we're gonna do that, but 765 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,400 then, you know, we're gonna make two games. 766 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,640 A. Year apart that are two 767 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,920 different games, but the same game but different. 768 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,080 Fighting styles but. Yeah, I I still didn't 769 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,960 understand it, like going through it all and stuff. 770 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,520 It's. I still don't get like is there 771 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,560 just like ideas they had that they couldn't do. 772 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,800 Like, I don't, I don't know. I don't really get what it was. 773 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,040 But then make it a blockbuster exclusive that no one can get 774 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,480 So. Even then it would be hard to 775 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,760 get 'cause there'd be like 2. Copies per store. 776 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,920 Maybe at the most. Yeah, and there wasn't very many 777 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,600 available. Yeah. 778 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,760 And it's just a game that got a poor reception that it was, you 779 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,840 know, deserving of. And what I find a little bit 780 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,440 weird about it, minus the gameplay, is that I understand 781 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,160 that parodies. I mean, obviously something like 782 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,200 South Park is a perfect example. It obviously does something a 783 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,440 little bit different now, but at least around this time, like 784 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,440 late 90s, it was very much like raunchy comedy, sort of a little 785 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,440 bit of a parody. Now it's it's much smarter than 786 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,040 that. But South Park is a perfect 787 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,800 example, yeah. You know what? 788 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,800 Simpsons Interplay should just take some of their newfound 789 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,720 money. Yeah, that they were using for 790 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:11,840 these new first word and shooter games and just bring back clay 791 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,080 fires like a like a full blown ground up remake of 63 and a 792 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,000 third. There we go, just from the 793 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,800 ground up baby, and just make it the best game ever. 794 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,280 Because you can get pretty good, OK, So humor out of it. 795 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,240 All that kind of stuff. It could. 796 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,080 It could be better. I had to look. 797 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,200 It. Up. 798 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,440 I had to look it up because you were talking about just the the 799 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,760 raunch of humor and the South Park and like the voice actors 800 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,520 they have for this game, they had like Jim Cummings. 801 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,680 Do you know who Jim Cummings is? He, He's like Winnie the Pooh. 802 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,200 He's freaking. Winnie the Pooh was one of the 803 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,280 voice actors in this game. They had Tress McNeil, who was 804 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,000 Lady Liberty. And High Five is the name of the 805 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,360 hand in Sculptor's cut Rob Paulson. 806 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,840 That's who I think I was thinking of specifically. 807 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,880 Yakko, Warner Animaniacs a lot. Pinky Pinky in the brain, like 808 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,200 raunchy voices. That's I think, of him. 809 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,920 Which was funny is that they have Jim Cummings, which this 810 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,960 was would have probably been like one of the first times that 811 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,840 he ever went outside of that kid friendly area. 812 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,720 But he would later go on to completely, completely destroy 813 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,480 that. And he would be the voice of the 814 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,160 Mask and Splatterhouse in 2010 and he says some of the most 815 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,840 raunchy stuff you've ever heard in your life. 816 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,240 I. Never played that. 817 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,720 That's amazing, Yeah. And it's a it's a pretty good 818 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,640 game. It's a pretty flawed game, but 819 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,880 it's a really good one. Dan Castellaneta. 820 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,800 I think that's how you pronounce the name Earthworm. 821 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,280 Jim's voice. Homer Simpson. 822 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,480 Same deal. Yeah, So and that's that's the 823 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,120 thing about this is like, I think if you don't really know 824 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,360 what the game is or what they're going for, you might think maybe 825 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,160 a little bit that it's it could be kid friendly, I guess in some 826 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,760 ways it is. It's not like anyone. 827 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,600 There's no like actual death. Yeah, they're all just clay 828 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,440 characters and stuff, but the humor is very adult, right? 829 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,160 And well, yeah, I mean, I think I kind of get that vibe, you 830 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,000 know, I mean, I don't, I don't think that like if you look at 831 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,400 the cartridge for 63 and a third, I don't think it really 832 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,240 comes off as kid friendly. That's true. 833 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,000 That's true, because it kind of looks more like you're about to 834 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,360 play like a horror game or something, because it's got the 835 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,000 evil snowman on the front, you know? 836 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,080 Yeah, yeah. But. 837 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,440 But yeah. I I could see I can. 838 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,080 Think it was a well marketed game either? 839 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,240 I I don't know how you that's The thing is I don't know how 840 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:41,160 you, I guess you just market it as it's for adults and the 64 841 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,920 was not really marketed that way in general, right, at least not 842 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,480 consistently. And to be fair, most, most 843 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,880 adults, I mean, I would say, I mean, obviously plenty of adults 844 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,720 had a Nintendo 64, but it was more common that most people at 845 00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,600 that point probably were not playing Nintendo as much as they 846 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,800 would have been playing PlayStation, right? 847 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,040 Yeah, there. There's probably were more 848 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,600 people playing PlayStation. And and for games like. 849 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,280 This the big console at the time, and 64 was actually not 850 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,040 the 60. Nintendo 64 wasn't even that 851 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,080 successful of a console. Well, as compared to its 852 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,000 predecessor, it wasn't, you know, it was, it wasn't that 853 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,880 close, right? But. 854 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,160 But it is in my heart. Yes. 855 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,440 Yeah, I mean it's it's a very well loved and remembered 856 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,920 console, but it was actually somewhat of a failure for 857 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,840 Nintendo as a console. But it's part of it, Part of 858 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,760 it's. Honestly got one of the bigger 859 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,880 followings of their entire catalog of consoles. 860 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,080 Yeah, well, 'cause they got so. Many the huge Bang Clay Fighter 861 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,200 characters have BIOS. Yes. 862 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,280 So that's what I wanted to look at. 863 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,600 I I definitely wanted to do that. 864 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,480 Where is my link that I had there? 865 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:59,080 Hang on, where is it? So they had a full 12 page 866 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,280 spread of Clay Fighter 63 and a third on Nintendo Power Issue 867 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,160 97. I had the BIOS, I had all the 868 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,880 stages and showed you what the stages look like, like a sort of 869 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,920 overhead view and stuff. It was on the cover, like they 870 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,760 went all freaking out for this game. 871 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,920 Was it a slow month for games or something? 872 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,200 I don't know. But like, you know, like this, I 873 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,600 mean, the only market in the game probably had at least or at 874 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,440 least some of the biggest market in it had. 875 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,120 Getting on the cover of Nintendo Power is always a big deal, 876 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,360 right? That that's that's going to be 877 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,840 something that's that's big, right? 878 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,160 So. I mean, to be fair, depending on 879 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,640 the success of the prior clay fighter games on Super Nintendo, 880 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,280 that's. True. 881 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,920 As well as probably being some of the more well known on 882 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,520 Nintendo, minus like the occasional Mortal Kombat or 883 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,840 Street Fighter, there wasn't that many fighting games like 884 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,440 that on Super Nintendo. Yeah. 885 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,560 So depending on the success of those old Clay Fighter games, I 886 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,200 would say that there's a possibility that maybe the game 887 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,240 was hyped up quite a bit and maybe Nintendo had expectations 888 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:09,840 that, you know, it didn't quite meet. 889 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,200 I mean, Nintendo Power at the end of the day is is a lot of a 890 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,880 just a sales tactic for their stuff. 891 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,680 I mean, that's really what it ended up being, yeah. 892 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,440 Not a lot of like and didn't they? 893 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,760 Give it a. Super positive review like it 894 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,400 was like a 90 out of 100. Or something. 895 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,440 I'll I'll look that up in a SEC. Yeah, I I'm gonna check because 896 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,520 usually when it's a cover thing they also have like a review. 897 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,760 I'm pretty sure they do have a review. 898 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,480 Anyways, part of the part of the 12 page spread is some of the 899 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,600 BIOS of these characters. Let's see which ones. 900 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,560 You know what we were talking about Ichibod. 901 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,200 Let's talk about Ichibod Clay a little bit. 902 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,640 What does it say? It says once known as the 903 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,360 Pumpkin Knight. OK which comes from I think the 904 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,800 you know, Ichibod has since received a court order 905 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,840 preventing him from using the nickname. 906 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,000 Now he's really miffed. All night long he haunts the 907 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,600 island of Clay Moto hoping to prove himself that he's still 908 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,520 the scariest of them all. He is neither good or bad, just 909 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,720 frightening. He has limited special moves, 910 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,880 but they are strong. That's an interesting little, 911 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,320 little sort of tidbit of info about him that's, that's not 912 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,160 bad, you know? I I got. 913 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:19,120 I have a website angelfire.com yeah shout out I guess. 914 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,440 I don't know it it has a different bio for him. 915 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,680 Oh. OK, let's let's compare compare 916 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,080 notes. So it says. 917 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,920 After being exiled from C2 Judgement, Clay Ichabod Clay 918 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,240 went to Clay Moto aisle. Despite his temporary happiness, 919 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:35,880 trouble seemed to follow him everywhere. 920 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,600 He learned that some of his friends and foes were also on 921 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,120 the island. Feeling bitter and betrayed, he 922 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,600 feels it's payback time. OK, that's completely different. 923 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,960 That's so weird. Yeah, that's crazy. 924 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,880 I don't know where this comes from, but it's hilarious. 925 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,400 Yeah, Mr. or Bad? Mr. Frosty is interesting 926 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,400 because he's kind of like the title character, I would say. 927 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,520 He's on the covers, All that kind of stuff. 928 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,720 According to Nintendo Power, at least. 929 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,440 Once known as a cold hearted curmudgeon, Frosty has changed 930 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,200 his tune. After a stint as a lounge singer 931 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,720 in Vegas, he got a job flying for clay fighter air. 932 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,600 Now he's watching out for Sumo Santa, who wants control of the 933 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,640 North Pole as one of the good guys in Clay Fighter 63 and a 934 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,080 third Frosty's goal is to stop Kiln, who is the main bad guy, 935 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,840 which they don't really explain unless you read this issue, but 936 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,160 how? Or play Sculptor's Cut. 937 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:33,960 Or Play Sculptor's Cut, which seems like 5 people did, but how 938 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,720 can he approach the center of Kiln's volcanic lair without 939 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:41,000 melting? So I just learned something new 940 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480 'cause I didn't. I didn't read this till now. 941 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,600 He's a good guy and he does not look like a good guy or act like 942 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:46,960 a good. Guy. 943 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,640 His name is literally bad. It doesn't. 944 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,640 Make any sense? It's so weird. 945 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,880 It's so strange. I know that doesn't really make 946 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,360 any sense. So you know, I I I think I'm not 947 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,960 gonna read any BIOS on on these characters but they're they're 948 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,800 very insensitive. There's Kung Pao and there's 949 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,560 Hoon. How Hungan They're not. 950 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,360 They're not. Appropriate. 951 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,320 It's so bad. Kung Pao is just terrible. 952 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,480 Disbelief what I saw. I mean. 953 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,120 It is funny. It's just so. 954 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,520 It's so bad. It's so like it you'll know 955 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,840 immediately that it is just not a good. 956 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,120 Can I read his bio though? Because on this website it's 957 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,840 pretty funny. If you want to, yeah. 958 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,240 It says it says Kung Pao used to be Sumo Santa's personal chef 959 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,040 and bodyguard. The repulsive meals he prepared 960 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,320 and his lack of Kung Fu knowledge eventually got him 961 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,440 fired. He was constantly trying to 962 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,040 improve his skills in both areas. 963 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,080 Unfortunately, he always got the two professions, cooking and 964 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,360 Kung Fu. Confused. 965 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,160 That's. Good. 966 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,640 I like that. That's actually pretty good. 967 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:58,400 That is pretty good. The again, this is like Jiggy. 968 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,320 We've run into this with a couple games, I think Pilot 969 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,120 Wings was one of them for sure, where like these characters are 970 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,320 just characters and then all of a sudden, like, no, actually, 971 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,440 they have backgrounds, they have a story, they have a this. 972 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,080 You don't get any of that unless you have a manual, unless you 973 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,200 look it up now or you had Nintendo Power at the time, It's 974 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,560 does it change the game? No. 975 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200 Does it improve it? It gives you an extra laugh, I 976 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:26,200 guess, but at the end of the day, the gameplay itself, the 977 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,040 gameplay itself is just me. It's, it's just. 978 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,960 The the Matt, Matt, Casa, Mocena. 979 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,560 I can't really say his dude's name. 980 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,720 He he said it perfectly right. Yes, let's do it. 981 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:45,000 You know, he predicted that 63 and a Third would remain A 982 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,480 prominent title in the N64 library for years to come. 983 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,200 Because the game is so terrible, it sets the standard for bad. 984 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,560 And that that that cuts deep, man, That's. 985 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,080 That, that is, that's as harsh as it gets. 986 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,640 That's as harsh. As it and it yeah, it even even 987 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,280 it shows right here it like after that part it says. 988 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,880 Like. Contrarily, the the editors of 989 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,320 Nintendo Power reviewed the game both unreleased and in released 990 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:16,880 forms, in June and November of 97, a much more positively than 991 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,920 pretty much everybody else. Yeah, so I I pulled it up. 992 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,360 I pulled up the Nintendo Power one. 993 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,240 Same issue 97. Let's see, I'm going to pick a 994 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:28,040 couple sentences here. The characters keep up a patter 995 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:33,280 of insults and jives OK during the fight, using the voices from 996 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,400 some very famous actors like we've mentioned. 997 00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:39,080 And As for the fighting itself, the moves are smoothly animated 998 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,920 and often hilarious to watch. In spite of the emphasis on 999 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,920 comic animation, though, serious fighting fans will find plenty 1000 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,640 of moves and combos to for the game to be interesting. 1001 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,320 They might look different, but I don't know. 1002 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,840 I don't know. I'm not so sure about that. 1003 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,960 I don't. Yeah, and then they say so. 1004 00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:02,320 They've the positives and negatives on Nintendo Power at 1005 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,800 the bottom of the review. Great graphics and sense of 1006 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,080 humor, lots of fighting arenas, lots of special moves and hidden 1007 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,720 characters. The negative breakthroughs are 1008 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:14,480 difficult to find and activate, which apparently to them would 1009 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,080 have been a positive if they were easier. 1010 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,520 Yeah, yeah, they were pretty gosh. 1011 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,440 God no. I got one thing to. 1012 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,720 I got one thing to say to that. So it says here that someone by 1013 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,280 the name Sushi X defended the game in Electronic Gaming 1014 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,120 Monthly. That's. 1015 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,200 Arguing while it's it's an unenjoyable or while it's 1016 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,040 unenjoyable in a traditional fighting game since it makes a 1017 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,800 great party game. I don't know it does it though. 1018 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,920 Yeah, it's. He says the game, saying the 1019 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,040 game is funny but would eventually get old. 1020 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,560 Yeah, it's it's funny and. Also, apparently it says like. 1021 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:59,920 I don't know what this is coming from, but it it apparently sold 1022 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,880 around 60,000 copies prior to Christmas of 97. 1023 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,920 Within a few and there it is. Yeah. 1024 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:15,320 And so and and and Sculptor's Cut only sold 2020 thousand 1025 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,600 copies. You mean they gave away 20,000? 1026 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,680 Copies, yeah. They gave Blockbuster 20,000 1027 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:22,400 copies. Yeah. 1028 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,000 Oh yeah, yeah. They gave away. 1029 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,560 Yeah. It was 20,000 copies to 1030 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,640 Blockbuster. Yeah, Yeah. 1031 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,160 So I don't know it sold. None, I think, Yeah, it sold. 1032 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,440 Zero gave away 20,000. Now you can buy three of them 1033 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,920 and it'll be the same amount as what they're, you know, Yeah, 1034 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,760 yeah. Cost the same amount of money, 1035 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:43,320 so I also found that in 2009 Interplay said that they would 1036 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:49,360 be updating the Clay Fighter series for the Wii Ware and DSI 1037 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,760 Ware services and they were so OK so shut down. 1038 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,720 Yeah. This is this is interesting, 1039 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:57,200 though. It's another parody game, right? 1040 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,200 And it's not a fighting game. Oh, OK. 1041 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,400 It's not a platformer. What It was originally going to 1042 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:11,360 be a Call of Duty parody called Call of Putty. 1043 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,480 Oh my God, sounds amazing. Was going to be the development 1044 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,680 was going to be handled by studio Black Games and was 1045 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,720 headed by one of the original programmers of the original Clay 1046 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:27,000 Fighter game. But it looks like it it was 1047 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,200 supposed to release 2010 or 2011 and it got canceled. 1048 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,560 Probably for the best because. It kept getting delayed and 1049 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,080 delayed and delayed. Probably for the best. 1050 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,280 Probably for the best I. So, so here's the thing. 1051 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,880 Ultimately, I don't think this game's that good either. 1052 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,440 Doesn't matter which one I I would, I would say that the idea 1053 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:50,400 to have a parody, to have different characters, original 1054 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,320 characters, or at least ones that were originally based on 1055 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,000 the original games with a couple new ones having an Earthworm gym 1056 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,160 is fun, you know? Yeah, sure. 1057 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,360 We kind of chose this as a, quote UN quote holiday game 1058 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,000 because there's a bad Mr. Frosty and a fat Santa or Sumo Santa, 1059 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,400 but ultimately, do you get any kind of like holiday winter 1060 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,440 feel? No, not really. 1061 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,280 One stage has snow and a castle, snow ice castle, and that's 1062 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:18,120 about it. And as much as I played more of 1063 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,880 Sculptor's Cut, at least the combo system and stuff, and 63 1064 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,080 and a third, I might might have felt like cheap sometimes, but 1065 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,360 it did feel more fun when you pulled it off. 1066 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640 But I definitely got my butt kicked most of the time when I 1067 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,400 played this game, so it's it's also very unforgiving and it 1068 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,920 shouldn't be. I I don't know if we mentioned 1069 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,560 the clay talities, but that's the thing. 1070 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,960 We did not mention clay talities. 1071 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,640 It's only in Sculptor's cut though, right? 1072 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,440 Or is that in the original? It's in the original. 1073 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,920 It's in both, but there's there's a few more or a couple 1074 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,000 different ones. My take on it is that they're 1075 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,680 boring and they're a waste. Like they they don't do anything 1076 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,640 interesting. I don't know if you guys saw 1077 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,120 any. I was having a hard time trying 1078 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,720 to get them to work. They're so hard. 1079 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:05,040 They're so difficult. I've always sucked at stuff like 1080 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,160 that. I pulled off one. 1081 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,520 I pulled off one of bad missile. Processes. 1082 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,640 The thing is that like fighting games back in like the 90s, 1083 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,840 early 2000s, they made it almost impossible to do fatalities. 1084 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,520 And just like finishing moves like that anyway, I it's so much 1085 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,280 easier to do nowadays. Yeah, I I thought that like like 1086 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,080 if you there would be an option where you would press L&R 1087 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,280 together maybe and they would pull it off or do back, right, 1088 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,760 back, right, you know, left, right, left, right, B or 1089 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,840 something and it would be A. Furious if the game was a 1090 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:40,360 financial failure because like they sold 60,000 copies prior to 1091 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:46,280 the Christmas of the year that they released it, but in 99 two 1092 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,320 years later they claimed that they broke over 1,000,000 copies 1093 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,520 sold. What? 1094 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,560 That's. That was their claim. 1095 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,480 I don't know if there's anything to back that up but that. 1096 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,200 Was Yeah, I I would what what? Sold them the game. 1097 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,640 I'll tell you what. Sold them the game. 1098 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,320 Yeah. OK And it was one phrase. 1099 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,960 You ready for this? Yes. 1100 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,880 That's possible, yeah. It is pretty good. 1101 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,800 I I see that's another thing. That's another part of the 1102 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,160 parity that is actually. Pretty good. 1103 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,800 Great trailer back in the day and they popped Interplay on it 1104 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,560 a lot and you know, got people to buy it. 1105 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,360 Yeah, it's. I don't. 1106 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,280 Know showed the PC gameplay or something, you know. 1107 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,560 Yeah, like it's unfortunately, I would, I would say like it's fun 1108 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,840 to sort of look up maybe you know, emulate a few rounds and 1109 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,520 stuff, but at the end of the day. 1110 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,520 Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely a decent game if you 1111 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,240 want to play it for free, but if you gotta pay for it in any 1112 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:48,040 regard, I would probably not do that. 1113 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,120 You can you can do better. I I I don't know if you can do 1114 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,600 worse. Honestly it's it's not very 1115 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,560 good. I I wish. 1116 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,000 You had I I got my my physical copy for free for my brother, 1117 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,800 'cause he still had it. And I was like, hey, you still 1118 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,280 have clay Fighter? And he's like, yeah, I was like, 1119 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,680 all right, I'll give you like $20.00 for it. 1120 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,240 And then he was like, no, you can have it for free. 1121 00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:10,720 And I was like, heck yeah. Well, you know what I I gotta 1122 00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:14,480 say, like having this ever drive that I have and being able to 1123 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,520 play something like Sculptor's Cut, pretty much the only way 1124 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,160 that anyone's really gonna be able to play it, you know, at 1125 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,400 least on authentic hardware and stuff like that. 1126 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,480 Yeah, at least you got like thousands, you know, burning a 1127 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,000 hole in your. Pocket. 1128 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:26,680 Yeah, no problem. Yeah. 1129 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,720 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I do, but I just. 1130 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:31,040 Decided sorry, the jiggy bank is closed. 1131 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,920 So before we wrap up and stuff, guys, I guess jiggy for you, 1132 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,720 since your bank is closed now overall what what's sort of like 1133 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,560 the final thoughts? What's sort of like the final 1134 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,240 elevator non pitch for this game? 1135 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,000 What'd you think? Blade Fighters is a charming, 1136 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,440 funny, bland, mediocre fighter for the Nintendo 64. 1137 00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:01,800 You'll find some laughs, but not much else. 1138 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,360 I give it a four out of five, but I'm going to add half a 1139 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,360 point. Give it a 4.5 because it has 1140 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,560 Earthworm Jim. Wait, a four out of five? 1141 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,480 Out of 10, by the way, that's okay. 10 Okay, I was like. 1142 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,320 Wait, I'm 5 out of 10? I was like, I'm kind of losing 1143 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,000 you here. What do you wait? 1144 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,520 What? It's perfect. 1145 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,760 You know what's funny is that's probably the highest rated score 1146 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,920 that it ever got. No Nintendo Power. 1147 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:30,960 Well, what was that score though? 1148 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,680 Nintendo. I saw was, I swear. 1149 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,880 It was OK well. What I was saying was like it 1150 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,480 didn't look like anything went past like a 3.8. 1151 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,560 So they they rated everything out of five. 1152 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,720 This is before they had like a different system where they gave 1153 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,120 it like out of 100 or whatever. But that was before that. 1154 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:45,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That. 1155 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,640 Happened. I thought I I thought I saw that 1156 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,840 somewhere, but OK, go. So in this in this in issue 97 1157 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,120 anyway, gameplay and sound was 4.2, no graphics and sound was 1158 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,320 4.2. OK, so they had the different, 1159 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,520 different things, yeah. Control was 3.2, this is all out 1160 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,880 of five. Challenge was 4, which I think 1161 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:08,560 is pretty spot on and theme and fun was 3.8. 1162 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,880 So pretty high I I I think these are all pretty high. 1163 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,160 That's a little high. That's a little too. 1164 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,400 High. That's somewhere in the four out 1165 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,680 of five, four out of five average did they give. 1166 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,920 Did they give an overall score? They don't give overall, that's 1167 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,560 where they they change that after I issue 100. 1168 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,440 So this is one of the last issues that didn't have. 1169 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,680 That when they had to review clay fighter, they're like we 1170 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,360 can't give overall scores, we have to. 1171 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,720 Rate it on, we got to. Change the system the other like 1172 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,960 so other outlets like IGN and all that like I don't think any 1173 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,040 a single review went past 3.8 by any other outlet. 1174 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,360 Yeah, so. So that's it's pretty rough. 1175 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,520 So what about you? It's got heart, it's got charm. 1176 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,240 But. By playing. 1177 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,200 What's your number? Yeah. 1178 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,880 What's your number? My number. 1179 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,800 Yeah. Is there a number? 1180 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,600 Does it exist? OK, OK, OK. 1181 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,520 It's it's got the heart, the charm, Nothing else. 1182 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,520 Yeah. I don't know, man. 1183 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:07,120 I give it a a crisp 2. Oh damn. 1184 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,640 I give it 2. So for me, I think, I think the 1185 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,280 attempt at humor and doing a a, a parody is is cool and nice. 1186 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,080 I like the fact that I'm playing characters that I don't 1187 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,000 recognize in a way that's refreshing. 1188 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,520 I mean, I kind of recognize them from the SNES game that I 1189 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,600 played, but very little experience. 1190 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,920 I'm sure if I played it then I would have enjoyed it more than 1191 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,600 I I do now. I don't think that Sculptor's 1192 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,320 Cut is worth having another version of basically the same 1193 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,320 game. That's not as good. 1194 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,360 And ultimately the gameplay is clunky. 1195 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,600 It's messy. It doesn't really work. 1196 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,760 It's honestly frustrating if you play on a higher difficulty. 1197 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,920 And by higher, I mean just the baseline. 1198 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,320 Normal. Yeah, normal. 1199 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,040 Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. 1200 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,320 And and all of that together. I'm not gonna go as low as a 2, 1201 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,200 but I'm gonna sit somewhere around a three. 1202 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,120 I would say it is 3 blobs of crusty. 1203 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:03,640 Player being generous. I mean, I gave it a 4.5 so I. 1204 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,240 Know you? Yeah, I don't know what's wrong 1205 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:05,840 with. You I feel like. 1206 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,120 I feel like I've played worse games than this. 1207 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,680 I feel like at the end of the day, it was a fighter and it 1208 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,440 functioned. And I yeah. 1209 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,840 So that's true. I mean, I gave a little. 1210 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,240 I showed my bias, I said. I said flat out. 1211 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,440 I gave it an extra half a point because of bringing from Jim 1212 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,920 there, which. Yeah, I mean, I guess it 1213 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,400 deserves more for that to be fair. 1214 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,120 I don't like, I don't like number scales. 1215 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,520 So you know. Yeah, it it's. 1216 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,360 I think it's a serviceable, OK fighter, but as someone who's 1217 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,720 played like a lot of fighting games, it's definitely the 1218 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,320 bottom of the barrel for sure, yeah. 1219 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,760 It's, it's near the bottom for sure. 1220 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,840 Yeah. OK Well, hey, you know what 1221 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,880 everybody? Like we said, give it a shot if 1222 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,120 you want. Don't go out of your way to 1223 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,800 really search for either of these. 1224 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,920 I think 63 and a third is probably the better one. 1225 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,440 But if you have a chance, sure you can. 1226 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,720 But is it worth it? Yeah, that's another story. 1227 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,080 Let me show you guys something real quick that that shows my 1228 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,560 fighting game credibility. OK, uh. 1229 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,800 Oh, oh snap, Oh yeah, if you're listening to. 1230 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,120 Mortal Kombat tattoo mortal. Kombat tattoo on the shoulder. 1231 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,320 That's a nice. Little hard to see. 1232 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,760 He started pulling up his shirt and we were like, we're 1233 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,280 concerned, but I thought he was going to flex the guns, but 1234 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,640 then. Well, sort of. 1235 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,280 So he sort of did, yeah. He sort of did let. 1236 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,280 Me show you my fighting creds. Yeah. 1237 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:32,800 Check out these boys. All right. 1238 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,640 So, yeah, we'll, we'll. Just like putty. 1239 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,160 They're like. Can mold it. 1240 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,560 He can mold it. Oh man, oh man, I I can 1241 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,720 definitely be molded for sure. All right, so if you want to 1242 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,240 find more, remember 64. Obviously you can find us across 1243 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,280 social media. Remember 64? 1244 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,600 Show right across the board. Patreon as well. 1245 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,880 If you want to support the show for as little as a buck a month, 1246 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,240 you can get all episodes like this early. 1247 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,440 So happy holidays. You get a somewhat holiday 1248 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,960 episode, I don't know, something like that. 1249 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,640 Talk a little bit about Santa and Frosty, That's as as good as 1250 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,720 it gets here. But anyways, happy holidays 1251 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:12,920 anyways, everybody for listening. 1252 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,840 And of course check out the show as well. 1253 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,960 On YouTube you can find a video version of this episode. 1254 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,680 You can find some gameplay videos. 1255 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,120 You'll also see me be really bad at this game if you're watching 1256 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,120 this version on YouTube as well. So that's always fun. 1257 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,840 Laugh at me, it's fine. I laugh at myself. 1258 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,720 I'm so bad. But other than that dead forge, 1259 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,400 thanks for thanks for coming on the show, man. 1260 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,240 Let's talk a little bit about about your stuff. 1261 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,600 I know. Yeah, I'd love to be back 1262 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,800 anytime that you want me, man. Yeah, of course. 1263 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,720 I'll be here. Tell us a little bit about what. 1264 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,080 You're talking about Clay Fighter? 1265 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:46,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's. 1266 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,640 Clay fighter, Clay fighter. It's actually they got like a 1267 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,680 choir though. Yeah, not bad, right? 1268 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,000 Dead Forge, Let's talk a little bit about about your stuff on 1269 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,600 YouTube. Yeah, I mean, you can find me at 1270 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,960 Dead Forge on YouTube, right? And I got a podcast, the Gaming 1271 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,480 Bounty Board, which is on Spotify and YouTube. 1272 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:14,600 You know, I do reviews, essays, a little bit of everything, so. 1273 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,320 Yeah, there we go. Amazing. 1274 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,600 So Dead Forge you can find across the board and the podcast 1275 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,480 again. The gaming bounty board it you'd 1276 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,280 look it up as the GBB Podcast. There we go. 1277 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,280 Amazing jiggy. Got some pretty big stuff in the 1278 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,320 pipe, man. How's it going? 1279 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,000 Oh man, so many good stuff. So much, So many good stuff. 1280 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,320 So many good stuff, So much good. 1281 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,520 Yeah, including, I think, the next tomorrow. 1282 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,080 Well, never mind about dates. I'm saying I'm doing a live 1283 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,280 stream and I'm going to play, play through some mods to 1284 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,720 experience those for the first time on some 64 titles, which we 1285 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,000 talked about doing in the future, which is super excited. 1286 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,760 So it's getting in preparation for that, experiencing some of 1287 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,040 these. Let's actually, I completely 1288 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,000 forgot to mention that in 2024, Jiggy and I have a little bit of 1289 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,000 a plan. We don't have all the details 1290 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,960 worked out, but probably every couple of episodes or so we're 1291 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,560 gonna play mods, unreleased games, things like that, that we 1292 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,120 can emulate so that we can sort of have. 1293 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,760 We're gonna. Dissect them. 1294 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,640 We're gonna dissect them. We're gonna compare it to the 1295 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,360 originals, if it's a mod, and play all these different types 1296 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,760 of mixing games. So it's not just the library, 1297 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,000 we'll still be working through regular games, but that's gonna 1298 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,080 be sort of off the beaten path a little bit here and there, So 1299 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,560 look forward to that throughout the course of 2024. 1300 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,240 We'll tell people about more details as as we come up with 1301 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,840 get closer to the dates and everything Anyways continues. 1302 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,640 That's gonna be cool. We. 1303 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,560 I have a video coming out. I'm working on it right now. 1304 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:45,440 Dave came on my end and we did a versus video in my Versus series 1305 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,080 where I compare and contrast two games within a series or within 1306 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,920 a genre, and right now it's going to be a banger. 1307 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,320 It is Diddy Kong Racing versus Mario Kart 64 and we are going 1308 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,320 to the definitive, which one's the actual definitive Kart race 1309 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,440 around the 64. Spoiler alert, it's not Mickey 1310 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:10,160 Speedway USA, but follow that up. 1311 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,320 I got some other bangers in the work I have. 1312 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,320 I have a massive video that I just finished writing. 1313 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,440 It took me several days to write this OK, and normally I finish a 1314 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:27,040 script in a day. I am mapping out and connecting 1315 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:33,240 the entire rare universe of games, so it's going to be in my 1316 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,480 overthinking series. This is probably going to be 1317 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,800 like a 20 to 30 minute video of me just nerding out about Rare 1318 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,680 Wear. We're talking Donkey Kong banjo. 1319 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,360 It's gonna be an interesting. One Jet Force Gemini like it's 1320 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,240 it's going everywhere it's gonna be. 1321 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,240 Man, Speaking of that, I've been playing a lot of grab by the 1322 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,520 Ghoulies recently. Grab by the ghoulies is. 1323 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:53,920 In there. Nice. 1324 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,360 It's awesome. I'll be looking forward to. 1325 01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,520 It, dude. It's gonna be a big one. 1326 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,160 I'm really excited about that one. 1327 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,920 Like, yeah. I'm actually working on my, I 1328 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:10,480 guess, biggest video that I've ever done in the kind of 1329 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:15,400 retrospective review kind of area that's supposed to come out 1330 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,200 sometime sometime later this month. 1331 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,040 Nice, Sweet. Well, lots of stuff down the 1332 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,160 pipe, everybody. Yeah, and you wanna watch some 1333 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,560 And listen to some pretty fun, creative, nerdy stuff? 1334 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,560 You got the three of us, and I would say the other two on this 1335 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,320 podcast is probably a little bit more creative than I am. 1336 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,600 But hey, you know what? It's all good. 1337 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,360 This is fun to talk about these games despite them not being. 1338 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,840 Very man. Your podcast has got more 1339 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,560 production value than mine does. So. 1340 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:49,640 Value is a very strong word. Hey, if I do clay fighter. 1341 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,120 Oh yeah, Clay fighter, man. That's all right. 1342 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,040 Everybody, thanks for listening. Thanks for joining us, 1343 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,680 gentlemen. Thanks for being on the show 1344 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,120 once again. And we will thanks for having me 1345 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,840 man everybody soon. Goodbye. 1346 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,880 Thanks for joining us on Remember 64.