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A battle. 

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He's over this place. 
It's a battle for destiny, a 

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battle for glory, a battle for. 
Welcome to Remember 64, where 

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this week we're going 3D with 
our favorite pocket monsters. 

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Hello everyone, and welcome to 
the show. 

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Hello again if you're returning 
listener or viewer and welcome 

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if this is your first time 
joining us here on Remember 64. 

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We are playing and discussing 
the good, the bad, the ugly and 

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of course everything in between 
throughout the Nintendo 64's 

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library. 
My name is David Petrangelo and 

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I am so, so glad that these two 
games we're talking about only 

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have the creatures that I 
recognize because my old man 

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brain can only hold so much 
useful information. 

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Yeah, that's right, I said 
useful, not useless. 

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All I know is that my go to 
Bulbasaur is the Gen. one 

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equivalent of whatever the Gen. 
two equivalent is that one 

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equivalent of that one Jiggy. 
Look back is here with me again 

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Jiggy. 
Hello. 

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Yes, you know, I heard once 
there was a study that said you 

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can only have 150 meaningful 
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So even in the 1st generation, 
we were one too many. 

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We're just one too many, right? 
So. 

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Maybe. 
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I don't know. 
They pushed us too far, even as 

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children. 
Yeah, they did. 

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They did. 
Oh, they really? 

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Oh, did they ever. 
Kids these days, they oh, boy. 

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OK. 
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It's not just the two of us this
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We got another guest. 
This is great. 

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It's super exciting. 
Been dying to have Eric on from 

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the unlockables for quite some 
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The Kingdom Hearts 
extraordinaire himself, Eric 

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from the unlockables. 
How are you, man? 

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Dave Jiggy, I'm doing great. 
Thank you guys so much for 

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having me on. 
I love remember 64. 

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I love the Nintendo 64. 
I have great fond memories of 

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it. 
And yeah, this has been a long 

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overdue. 
I know that. 

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Dave, I think you and I last 
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of Josh from Still Loading Show,
I believe. 

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I think we did Mario Kart, Super
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That's it, man. 
Yeah, and that was kind of our 

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yeah, that was kind of our first
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And ever since then it was was 
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come on your guys a show and and
do something for sure. 

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But yeah, shortly after that or 
around that time I had my first 

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child and that kind of pushed 
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But at a point now where I where
we we were able to make it work.

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So it's awesome to to be on 
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It's awesome to to finally 
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I'm really excited to talk about
one of my one of my most fondest

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memories from my childhood here.
Yeah, we're talking Pokémon 

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Stadium and the second one as 
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So Pokémon Stadium 1 and two, we
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together 'cause there's a lot of
similarities and why not, right?

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Different games. 
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about it as we go along. 
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though, let's talk about the 
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I mentioned the Kingdom Hearts 
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Let's chat about that a little 
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day that we're recording, you 
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last episode in a very long 
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that franchise. 
Let's what's what's going on 

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there, If anyone doesn't know. 
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So as of as of today, as of this
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the final game that we played in
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Hearts melody of memory came 
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And yeah, I, I started doing a 
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analysis and retrospective on my
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And that is what my show has 
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kind of community of, of 
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We have. 
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the, you know, I kind of see the
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the series where is people like,
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like my favorite game series of 
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It's a, it's a series that I, I 
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And you know, I am not so naive 
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crazy, gets a little weird 
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are mostly on the outside 
looking in how crazy the Kingdom

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Hearts series can get. 
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miniseries within my show was 
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games, break them down, break 
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themes and kind of analyze and 
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make kind of like a companion 
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curious to get into the series. 
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Kingdom Hearts, infamously, the 
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little bit crazy. 
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of tie into each other. 
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choose to undertake a playing of
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very much something that you 
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playing all the games in the 
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together. 
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catalyst of, of that journey of 
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And yeah, as of today, I, I 
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It took me two years and and 
nine months to go through all 

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the games and write all the 
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episodes. 
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content across 29 episodes. 
So yeah, very. 

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Impressed. 
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It feels like it's very, very 
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It is my most complete attempt 
to just analyze and describe and

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share the thing that I love most
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chooses to come and engage with 
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So that is yes. 
Now I need to stop you and I've 

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got to say, describe the plot to
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In 20. 
I even know that's crazy and 

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I've only played like the first.
Two games literally impossible 

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because there's there's plots on
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So it depends on like which one 
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To to say like a synopsis. 
Elevator pitch, that's what. 

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It's called Yeah Boy from island
gets mystical key sword and 

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fights darkness and the elderly.
That's pretty elderly. 

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Yeah, those are two separate 
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Interesting. 
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Sometimes separately. 
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Disney. 
Disney's there. 

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Yeah, yeah, Mickey's there. 
He's kind of like a Jedi master.

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Goofy's there, Donald's there. 
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characters are there, so. 
And if you added like another 10

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seconds, could you explain the 
nobody heartless situation to 

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me? 
Because I played through one and

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two and I still don't really 
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Yes. 
So the heartless is the darkness

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in person's heart made manifest 
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of the body that is left behind 
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heartless. 
So yeah, just because you become

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heartless does not mean that you
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Your body can be left behind and
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emotionless husk. 
And there's some really deep 

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themes around like depression 
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all that kinds of fun stuff that
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madness. 
But yeah, there's Don't Give me 

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If you want to make this a 
Kingdom Hearts episode, we could

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be here for four hours. 
So just be careful where you're 

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taking this. 
Tread Tread lately Jiggy tread 

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lately not. 
It's. 

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Just yeah, yeah, I mean that is 
it is very impressive, man, like

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honestly and and it's great that
all of that is is part of a 

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franchise and game series of 
games that you love so much. 

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Now before this my my question, 
my sort of semi follow up 

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question is like had you played 
all these before you did this or

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were there a couple like blank 
spots that you filled in sort of

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as you went? 
Yeah, I'd played all of them 

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with the exception of I didn't 
finish the the mobile games, 

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which had a more of like gotcha 
element to it because those 

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spanned like several years of 
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So those were the only real 
blank spots that I kind of had 

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to go back and and fill in. 
But other than that, every 

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mainline game that's been out, I
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hardware. 
I own all the collections 

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multiple times over physical on 
Steam. 

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So yeah, it's a bit. 
I've given Square Enix enough of

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my money. 
Because of you're keeping them 

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afloat because some of their 
games apparently don't do well 

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enough. 
Which is just like what? 

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Crazy. 
Yeah. 

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Anyways, they say that you 
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you love. 
And I've, I've certainly 

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supported this one because I 
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So there you. 
Go King of Hearts 4. 

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It's coming. 
Hopefully. 

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Sometime. 
Here it looks dramatically 

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different. 
I don't know how I feel about it

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but. 
Sorry, we're at we're out of big

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shoe territory. 
So that's great. 

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We're in regular shoe territory.
I don't know what that. 

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Means regular shoe territory. 
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It's. 
A sign of something. 

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It's a sign of something. 
Whatever it is, it's a sign of 

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something. 
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OK, so that's awesome. 
Check out the unlockables. 

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If you're a Kingdom Hearts fan 
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Kingdom Hearts fan, check it 
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That's the place to go for sure.
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Understand Kingdom Hearts. 
Or and and to understand. 

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Yeah. 
He passed the test. 

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He gave a great synopsis of it. 
He can't confirm, so there. 

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You go. 
More details. 

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To come. 
More details. 

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It's a great companion piece. 
If you're like I said, if 

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you're, if you're playing the 
series through yourself, it's a 

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great companion piece. 
Just so like you play the first 

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game, listen to it afterwards 
like it's at least I think so. 

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I'm patting myself on the back 
obviously, but I, I, I'm very, 

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I'm very proud of it. 
Yeah, no, you, you damn well 

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should. 
Absolutely. 

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You put some hard work into it. 
You'd pat yourself on the back 

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as much as you want. 
OK, so let's, yeah, let's talk. 

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Let's talk Pokémon Stadium. 
Let's talk about I either one of

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these. 
Erica let you catch your breath 

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for two seconds. 
Jiggy, what is your what is your

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experience with Pokémon Stadium?
Either one of these going in 

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before the last, you know, 
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were going to play this. 100% no
experience playing Pokémon 

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Stadium. 
No no no no no no no. 

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Let me finish. 
No experience playing Pokémon 

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Stadium by myself. 
I only played Pokémon Stadium 1.

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That's still interesting though.
That's still interesting to me. 

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At a friend's house and we my 
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Licking, licking wires right 
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We both noticed at the same time
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Sorry, that's great potentially 
dangerous situation. 

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So I just ended up. 
Being a a Christmas vacation 

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thing where the cat just. 
Yeah, I'm like. 

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Please, no, please no, that's 
not no casualties. 

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Here. 
Oh, I did this at a particular 

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friend's house and we would just
do multiplayer and just battle 

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and pick, pick our book. 
And we did a thing where we'd 

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have to, we, we each picked our 
team, but we'd have to like 

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cover our eyes when the other 
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couldn't like, you know, just do
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And no legendaries. 
That was a rule. 

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No legendaries because why that?
Makes sense. 

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That makes sense. 
So, so sorry. 

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They so you only OK, so you only
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Did you guys ever do the the 
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was it all just the rental or 
whatever? 

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Didn't do the transfer pack 
stuff though. 

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I had one, just never did it. 
Yeah, we just, we just. 

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I mean, you kind of both need 
one too, right? 

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Otherwise it's not really fair 
or quite the same. 

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Yeah. 
I think it's kind of what it. 

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Is Dave, like we've talked about
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team of Pigeots, yes. 
What am I going to do with that?

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Fly, baby, fly. 
Great team. 

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That's a great team. 
Yeah, you're just never touching

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the ground. 
That's actually pretty sweet. 

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I, I have, I have, I don't know,
I think I, I have a decent 

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amount of experience with this, 
with this franchise, mostly the 

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first one, I think, because 
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at the time and I grew up 
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Pokémon and that's pretty much 
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I, I've said this before in the 
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played, even talking about 
Puzzle League when we played at 

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Jiggy last year, you know, it 
was like, oh, I've never played 

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this game before, but I 
recognize some of the Pokémon 

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and this is an interesting way 
of doing it. 

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And, and to me, this was kind of
the same thing. 

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It was like, oh, I get to do 
battles and I get to try out my 

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stuff. 
But pretty much like I had one 

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friend, I think, who had the 
first one and then I would rent 

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the first one every once in a 
while. 

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There was only one Game Boy 1 
transfer pack, one game, one 

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Pokémon game in our house. 
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and play with my brother was 
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the rentals. 
It was only the, you know, going

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that way. 
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this as we go, but it's just 
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actual Pokémon, I feel like my 
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not there. 
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that just doesn't quite work for
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this. 
I played this this time mostly 

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on my Steam Deck because I kind 
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And so I emulated it and had to 
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couch or in my kids room or, you
know, things that on the go sort

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of speak. 
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transfer stuff this time even 
though I tried to because what I

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tried to do is play Pokémon Blue
before I booted this game up and

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I got 3 gyms in. 
I was dedicated guys. 

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I wanted to get as many as I 
got. 

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I got 3 gems into the game. 
I restarted, I picked my 

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Vulvasaur. 
I got in there and I was like, 

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yeah, this is great. 
I still it still works. 

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I have my original cartridge in 
my GBA that I played it in. 

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It has like me and my brother 
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hard to see, but I feel like 
I've shown this before, but it 

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says AP on there, which is my 
brother's initials in pen. 

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And he rubbed off the fact that 
I put DP on there and then wrote

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over it. 
And we sort of thought on whose 

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cartridge we thought about whose
cartridge this was, but who's 

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laughing now? 
I have it so and it still works.

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The battery is still alive on it
somehow so. 

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End of the year that. 
What's that? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Give it another year or two. 

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Yeah, you run that borrowed 
time. 

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I know I shouldn't have said it.
I jinxed it. 

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I'm going to turn it on now. 
It's not going to work. 

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All right, Eric, what about you?
Let's let's actually before we 

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even do this because we haven't 
had you on the show yet, What's 

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your Nintendo 64 experience? 
How about that? 

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What was it for you as a kid or 
as an adult or coming into, you 

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know, these last couple weeks? 
What's the story, man? 

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My Nintendo 64 experience is so 
weird. 

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It's it's so bizarre. 
It's so bizarre. 

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So it's funny that I'm coming on
talking about this game because 

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I remember getting My Nintendo 
64 and it was the Pokémon 

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Stadium bundle. 
So it came with Pokémon Stadium,

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it came with the transfer pack. 
So this had to have been a 

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couple years. 
I mean, this one came out what, 

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989998? 
So it had, yeah. 

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So it had to have been like two 
years after the council 

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initially initially launched. 
And I was just in the the height

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of Pokémon mania, the the Game 
Boy games, the cards, like 

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literally everything. 
Yeah, me too. 

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So my Nintendo 64 experience was
really weird because I, I know a

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lot of people initially at 
launch got, you know, the, the 

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games that everybody thinks of 
as synonymous with the 64, like 

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especially like Mario 64. 
Up until recently, I hadn't 

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played any of the what people 
would consider like the probably

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the high tier and 64 games. 
I hadn't, I didn't play Mario 

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64. 
I didn't own it. 

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I didn't play Ocarina of Time. 
I didn't own it. 

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Star Fox 64, Goldeneye, Banjo 
Kazooie, like all the games that

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people think of, like when they 
think of that N64 didn't own a 

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single one of them. 
I owned weird shit. 

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I owned Gauntlet Legends, which 
is like one of my favorite 

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games. 
I've loved Gauntlet Legends, 

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Army Men, Serge as Heroes. 
I think it was the second one. 

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I owned that one. 
Yeah, there's like 5 for some 

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reason. 
So I just owned like a lot of 

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like weird off like the beaten 
path kind of N64 games and like 

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nothing that was actually made 
but like the actual like 

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Nintendo IP. 
So it was really, really, really

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weird. 
And I was playing an N64 at the 

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same time as I would had like my
PS1 and like a Super Nintendo as

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well. 
So I was kind of like switching 

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back between and forth between 
all of them. 

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So yeah, my N64 experience was 
like super weird. 

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And like everybody would always 
talk about like how great Mario 

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64 is and how great Ocarina is 
and, you know, these Seminole 

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best games of all time. 
And it wasn't until my late 20s 

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that I played Mario 64 and I 
played Ocarina of Time for the 

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first time last year. 
So yeah, my, my N64 experience 

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is kind of like all over the 
place. 

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But I have been going back and 
I've been totally like filling 

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in some of the gaps. 
Last year I was, I, I got the 

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opportunity also to play Wave 
Race 64, which which that game 

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actually like, surprised me. 
And that kind of blew me out of 

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the water, like, no pun 
intended. 

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It's like. 
That's fine. 

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And like how like beautiful the 
water graphics were in that 

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game. 
I was like, what are we looking 

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at? 
Like it? 

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Looked real. 
It's. 

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Yeah, I thought it looked 
incredible. 

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It was. 
So it's. 

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Such an early game too, which is
just crazy. 

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Yeah, they had that like a life 
cycle. 

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They had that figured out like 
out-of-the-box, I don't know. 

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But so, so yeah, I've been going
back in and like filling in some

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of like the marquee and 64 games
as I've gone back since I've 

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gotten into the podcasting 
circle, I've like gone back and 

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played like more things that 
I've missed when I was growing 

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up because I was obsessed with 
like Pokémon and, and when I, 

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when things would come out, I 
would just obsess over them and 

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like miss everything else that 
came out. 

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So yeah, very, very weird. 
We're very, very weird N64 

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experience like Pokémon Stadium.
And specifically, I already 

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mentioned I got the the bundle 
that had the N64 Pokémon 

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Stadium, the controller and the 
transfer pack. 

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And I know for a fact that I 
just ate this game up. 

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It's specifically the first one.
I had the second one too, but I 

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remember I put way more time 
into the first one. 

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I would import like all my 
Pokémon. 

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I had like the whole Pokedex 
like maxed out to level 100 

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because of the rare candy 
glitch, obviously. 

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And yeah. 
And so I would just go through 

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like the tournaments and like 
just destroy everyone. 

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And one of my fondest memories 
that is me and one of my best 

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friends at the time, we spent 
like a whole summer. 

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We got all 151 Pokémon into the 
Hall of Fame on Pokémon Stadium 

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by going through the gym leader 
castle. 

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Like he would come over and we 
would just go through that with 

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different teams until we got 
every single Pokémon into the 

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Hall of Fame. 
It was it was it was absolutely 

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nuts. 
And one of my other favorite 

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things too was when we'll talk 
about this as well, is they had 

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the the Gameboy tower that you 
could play Pokémon on Gameboy on

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your TV. 
And if you had progressed far 

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enough in the game, you could 
get like the little sticker 

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add-ons like the Doduo sticker 
that lets you play in like 

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double speed time. 
And going back now and 

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experiencing the Gen. one games 
like those games are slow as 

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fuck. 
So being able to play it like 

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double speed back then, super 
cool. 

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So yeah, I, I play, I'm sure I 
know I played this game to 

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death. 
I didn't play the second one as 

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much because when Gen. 2 came 
around, I feel like I was kind 

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of petering off of Pokémon a 
little bit. 

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Like I love Gen. 2. 
It's, it's probably my favorite 

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generation just cause of 
nostalgia factor. 

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But I was discovering things 
like shortly after that I 

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discovered like Final Fantasy 9 
and Kingdom Hearts came out. 

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So like my love affair with 
Square Enix and RP GS kind of 

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started and I kind of petered 
off Pokémon. 

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So, but yeah, I have a lot of 
nostalgia, a lot of nostalgic 

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love around this game, but going
back to play it now is is 

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interesting and I think we'll 
get into that here in a second. 

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Yeah, No, let's, let's dive in 
because I think I'll, I'll start

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a little bit because it's a 
little bit of what I, what I 

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said I again, I've had like if 
you, if you tell me to name more

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than 5 Gen. 2 Pokémon like and 
had A and, you know. 

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Can't even make a full team. 
Like I can't. 

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Like literally I can't even 
have. 

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I can't even have 6 pigeots 
worth of of of of you know, mind

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space to be able to like I 
honestly, I, I can't like when I

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wrote that little intro thing, I
said I had to look up that name 

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like I, I do not know. 
And I played through Gen. 2 

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completely for the first time. 
Similar with you with with 

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Ocarina was some was last year 
around this time last year. 

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Interesting. 
Yeah, it was. 

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It was actually. 
No, it was a little bit later, a

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little bit any regard. 
It doesn't matter what it was. 

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You at least know the starters, 
the Gen. 2 starters. 

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Offhand, no, I don't. 
I know what they look like. 

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Like, I know I know what they 
look like. 

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But like, I, if you show me a 
Gen. 2 Pokémon or like A2 and A3

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or A2 and A4, I'd be like, Oh 
no, that one's from 2:00, that 

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one's from 4. 
Like I, I could identify that 

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the names, no chance, right? 
If you threw a Gen. one in front

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of me, I know all of them and I 
haven't played a Pokémon game or

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Gen. one for 20 years at least, 
you know consistently enough to 

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be able to like refresh my 
memories every once in a while 

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I'd pick up blue or whatever, 
I'd play stadium or it's fine, 

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no problem. 
But like man. 

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So all of that being said, 
because of all of that and my 

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very limited extended universe 
of Pokémon, not like I don't I 

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don't. 
I've never had a desire to go 

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back to these games because 
unless I've had my own Pokémon 

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in here playing it solo, at 
least to me, I hate to say, it 

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feels kind of boring. 
It just does. 

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It's just the same thing. 
Oh, now a commercial's playing 

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in my video keeps playing over 
and over and over again of the 

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same slow sort of battles and. 
And I'm just like, OK, like like

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you said, the the 1st 2 gens, 
especially one it's a slow 

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they're slow moving games, you 
know, like you're until you get 

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that bike. 
It's like holy shit, let's go 

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buddy, pick up the pace like you
got Pokémon to catch and and A 

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and a rival to fight and let's 
go man, Oak needs you to fill 

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out that pokedex. 
Come on. 

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This game kind of like these 
games kind of feel that way to 

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me because it's like I don't 
need to see like it's I think, I

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think as a kid and not knowing 
what they really looked like, I 

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think it's a really cool idea to
get these Pokémon, put them in a

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3D space and show you what some 
of these moves look like. 

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00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,880
I think that's great. 
It's a great representation of 

449
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,440
what's been going on for dozens 
and dozens of hours of how many 

450
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,200
times you've played either one 
of these games. 

451
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,640
The Game Boy games at the time, 
like I think that's great. 

452
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,560
And some of them still look 
pretty cool. 

453
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,800
Some of them I forgot what they 
look like and was kind of 

454
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,120
surprised. 
I still like that aspect of it. 

455
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,920
But aside from the visual 
aspect, I was like, all right, 

456
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,320
I've done this, you know, I've I
did a couple of the gems on each

457
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,240
of them, played a couple of the 
mini game things and I'm like, 

458
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,960
all right, I got my fill, I've 
got my Pokémon fill. 

459
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,600
And somehow, even though Gen. 
one and two move pretty slowly 

460
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,560
when you're not battling, I 
still would rather play the in 

461
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,200
between stuff somehow than just 
the battles. 

462
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,800
If there's something about 
maneuvering the environments, 

463
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,280
that was enough for me to be 
like, well, I'd rather actually 

464
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,560
play the full game than just the
battles. 

465
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,320
And I don't know, it's kind of a
weird thing because what do you 

466
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,000
do in between the battles? 
Unless you're finding random 

467
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,480
poker balls that have a potion 
or something. 

468
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,080
And what are you doing? 
You're you're running into 

469
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,200
random encounters which kind of 
suck but that happens so often, 

470
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240
especially in the first one. 
But somehow I wanted to do that 

471
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,680
over playing these games. 
I'm in a really weird space. 

472
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,320
So anyways. 
Now I need to blast you for 

473
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,000
that. 
Please do the random encounters.

474
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,680
That's what I lived for, the 
random random. 

475
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,320
Encounters. 
What is wrong with you? 

476
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,320
My gosh, you never knew what you
were gonna find. 

477
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,960
You're gonna find a fucking too 
bad is what you're gonna find. 

478
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,000
Or, or a rat. 
But. 

479
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,720
That's what you're gonna find. 
You don't know that. 

480
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,400
What if you find something? 
What if you find? 

481
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,040
What if you find something 
legendary? 

482
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,400
What if you find a shiny? 
Like, not a gentleman? 

483
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,280
You're not variables. 
Well, I mean. 

484
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,440
I I'm talking just these, I'm 
talking just these two, just 

485
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,280
these two and more. 
More specifically one 'cause 

486
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,640
that's where most of my 
experience is. 

487
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,560
But anyways, continue. 
Sorry. 

488
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,160
And Two's better. 
I will say I do prefer Gen. 2. 

489
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,560
It is honestly, the game itself 
is, is definitely better now 

490
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,800
that I played it all the way 
through. 

491
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,960
Like it's, it's better. 
I just don't have that same, you

492
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,600
know, nostalgia for it and 
that's it. 

493
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,040
But random encounters, really. 
Oh man, you are younger than me.

494
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,840
Jesus. 
Yeah, I was. 

495
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,040
And you know what? 
I'm gonna say something. 

496
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,280
That is because of me being 
younger and playing this game as

497
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,600
a kid. 
I would have been somewhere 

498
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,720
around like the age of 6 or 7 or
so. 

499
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,840
When I played this and the 
transfer pack, I did not 

500
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,200
understand how that worked. 
OK, and I knew I knew you could 

501
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,840
I knew you could connect 
Pokémon. 

502
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,320
I knew you could play Pokémon on
the TV. 

503
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,800
And that's what caused a problem
for me because I was like, oh, I

504
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,800
can play my Game Boy game on the
TV and I had a friend that had a

505
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,120
super Game Boy on the Super 
Nintendo. 

506
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,920
Yes, I had one. 
So I assumed it was the N64 

507
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,640
equivalent of the Super Game Boy
right. 

508
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,640
So I remember just like popping 
that in, popping in random Game 

509
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,400
Boy games, flipping my N64 on 
and off and be like why is and 

510
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,320
it working? 
What am I not getting? 

511
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,680
That is totally fair, though. 
That's totally fair. 

512
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,840
And the funniest part was I 
apparently just like gave up on 

513
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,200
the whole transfer pack 
situation like but like mid 

514
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,720
trying to do a game. 
So when I like re like grabbed 

515
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,760
all my stuff right and got my 
transfer pack like I found my 

516
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,120
transfer pack and I pulled it 
out. 

517
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,960
It had a quest for Camelot in 
it, because that was the game I 

518
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,200
was trying to get on TV because 
for whatever reason. 

519
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,400
And then that got randomly 
thrown onto Switch Online just 

520
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,040
like in the Game Boy library. 
And I just remembered that I was

521
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,800
like, I can finally do it and. 
That's not Yeah, I can find 

522
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,800
about this dream. 
It's full circle. 

523
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,000
My life is complete. 
You can die happy now, Jiggy. 

524
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Now it's it's for Camelot 
finally. 

525
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,520
So what, like did so I you, you 
have both cartridges, I believe.

526
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,000
I think they're in the 
background behind you there. 

527
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,240
Yeah. 
Did you play both? 

528
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,680
How did it go? 
Like did you, did you, did you 

529
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,560
transfer anything? 
That's the question. 

530
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,680
I did not. 
Or did you? 

531
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,360
Just try and play Camelot again.
Yeah, no success. 

532
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,880
No, it didn't work. 
I don't know why. 

533
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,440
I still don't. 
Understand I I kind of did what 

534
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,720
you did played a little bit of 
the the Jim Castle whatever, and

535
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,480
I honestly do prefer 2 stadium 2
for a couple reasons 1 the 

536
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,760
cartridge looks dope as heck and
it's got to be noted because 

537
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,600
it's like gold and sparkly on 
one side and silver and sparkly 

538
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,120
on the other, which is amazing 
the art's. 

539
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:29,200
Pretty cool on it too, honestly 
like the box art on both but are

540
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,720
pretty sweet. 
Yeah, yeah, they look. 

541
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,320
Pretty cool. 
It is. 

542
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080
I do like that they have your I 
don't remember if they have it 

543
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960
on the second one, but the first
one has a little spot to put 

544
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,440
your name. 
It says like this. 

545
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,520
Let me let me pull it up real 
quick. 

546
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,320
Go grab it. 
Let's go show and tell. 

547
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,160
Come on. 
I didn't. 

548
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,280
Even recognize that I did not. 
I left it blank purposefully. 

549
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,120
But yeah, it says like. 
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, mine's 

550
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:53,720
somewhere. 
Somewhere buried for. 

551
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Yeah, this game cartridge 
belongs to and then put your 

552
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,680
name on it. 
And I don't know how I have a 

553
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,280
copy that doesn't have. 
A name mine doesn't either, 

554
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600
which is why I didn't even think
about it because that's amazing.

555
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,840
I bought like a RE like a, you 
know, bought a copy of I don't 

556
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,200
know where it was, eBay or 
whatever it was just but. 

557
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,760
I just love the look at this 
this. 

558
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800
Into your card is so. 
Cool, and it's got to be the 

559
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,880
only one. 
That's like that too. 

560
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,920
Right like cuz even the stickers
like shiny too, like it's cool. 

561
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,880
I don't, I don't know any other 
N64 games that are like 1/2 and 

562
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,200
half. 
Look, it's pretty cool. 

563
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,000
It's like a repo or something, 
right? 

564
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,360
So yeah, I. 
Will say, like Pokémon Stadium, 

565
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:36,480
like for me, it's all about 
battling with friends like and 

566
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,200
having an online element on 
Switch Online probably adds 

567
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,240
quite a bit of value to it, I 
would think right. 

568
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,240
I mean it is essentially, let's 
just put it in a 3D space and 

569
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,520
let's see, like let's watch 
these epic battles. 

570
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,080
I mean that's that's the draw 
and two just is automatically 

571
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,840
better because it does have more
Pokémon. 

572
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,200
Right. 
Like honestly that's all you 

573
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,520
need a throw a throw Bay leaf in
there. 

574
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Here's a question. 
Haley, there it is. 

575
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,480
That's one of the ones I can 
reckon. 

576
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,920
Yeah, yeah. 
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

577
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520
If you want the Gen. 2 starters,
because we never told you, it's 

578
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:15,120
a total dial Chikorita and Oh my
gosh, I want to say syndical. 

579
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,280
I was like, I wanted to say 
Typhlosion, but I'm like, that's

580
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,880
the evolution. 
Yep, yeah, sure. 

581
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,160
They were pretty sweet, 
actually. 

582
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,160
They were really cool. 
I think Gen. 1 and Gen. 2 had 

583
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,920
equally amazing starters. 
They're cool starters. 

584
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,680
Yeah, I picked Mr. Mr. Water 
Dragon dude, when I played it. 

585
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,680
I wanted to pick something 
relegator. 

586
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,040
Yeah, yeah, he looks cool. 
Like I feel like he looks so 

587
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,760
cool instead of the the starting
three at least. 

588
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,560
I don't know. 
I mean, that's why people pick 

589
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,800
Charizard, right, Is because he 
was like he's fire, he's a 

590
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,320
dragon. 
Like, I think that's why it was 

591
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,320
like. 
That's dope. 

592
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Let's. 
Give him a turtle of cannons, I 

593
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,120
mean. 
Eventually, yes, ha ha, I 

594
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,160
eventually I picked the leaf, so
come on. 

595
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,640
Bulbasaur is underrated for 
sure. 

596
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,320
I love Bulbasaur. 
God he can use cut the. 

597
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:58,960
Poster is pretty. 
Cool. 

598
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,600
I don't know if any other guys 
can use cut. 

599
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,240
I don't think so, right. 
Cut is huge. 

600
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,680
It's one of the first HMS you 
get. 

601
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,160
It's huge. 
You got to, you got to have 

602
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080
somebody who can use cut early 
and not have to worry about it. 

603
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,560
It's almost as important as fly,
which I had 6. 

604
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,800
Pigeons you can fly 6. 
Times. 

605
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Fly in 6th opposite directions. 
Yeah. 

606
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,600
It's sick in army of pigeons on 
you. 

607
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,360
In Munglitch for sure that'd. 
Be amazing yeah Eric, how was it

608
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,200
how was it revisiting? 
How did you play it first of 

609
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,240
all, like, how was how'd that 
go? 

610
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Like what was the? 
What was the dealio? 

611
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,840
Yeah, so I have some I have I 
have several thoughts I've I 

612
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,080
would like to also throw my hat 
in the ring for the random 

613
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,520
encounter thing here. 
First of all, random encounters 

614
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,560
were I know that the the tide of
opinion has shifted drastically 

615
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,560
against random encounters in in 
the modern age, but back in the 

616
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,880
day when I only got like two 
games a year, like I would just 

617
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520
grind random encounters all day.
Like that was my childhood. 

618
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,440
And it'd be like, oh, Pokémon 
just just fight random Pokémon. 

619
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,440
Or like even Final Fantasy 9, 
like the first RPGI ever played 

620
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,400
was just like I would just spend
all day like running around just

621
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,680
fighting, fighting monsters Like
that's just that's. 

622
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840
What she did that stuff like at 
least you got something out of 

623
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,160
it. 
That's. 

624
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,720
What she had to do as a older 
gamer, I appreciate it less and 

625
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,720
from what you said, it sounds 
like we were about the same age 

626
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,080
when when this stuff kind of all
hit hit the mainstream here. 

627
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,560
So I, I have a preference for 1 
/ / 2 and it was only because 

628
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,000
I'm have a specific memory about
Pokémon Stadium to that I was 

629
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,640
doing the, the gym leader castle
thing where you like go through 

630
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,280
you fight all the gym leaders. 
And there was this event like a 

631
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,160
3/4 the way through where like 
team rocket attacked you and one

632
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,840
of the team rocket grunts had 
like a Pokémon that like new 

633
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,480
explosion and for whatever 
reason, like it was a wall that 

634
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,120
I like just I could not get past
like every time like I throw, I 

635
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,320
like bring like my best team. 
I'd be like, fuck you, I'm 

636
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320
bringing Mew too. 
I'm bringing Mew like I'm just 

637
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,080
bringing all the heavy hitters 
and I could not beat him and 

638
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,480
then like I'd be down to like my
MU 2 and he'd have two Pokémon 

639
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,320
left and then he'd just be like,
oh, explode. 

640
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,560
And that would just kill my MU 
2. 

641
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,160
So I got really pissed at at 
Pokémon Stadium 2 for like 

642
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,640
whatever reason. 
I'll just be like, I'm going to 

643
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,560
go back to Pokémon Stadium 1 
because. 

644
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,680
Whatever reason that is, that is
a reason. 

645
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Like that's yes, come on. 
That's like, that sucks. 

646
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,080
That's bullshit. 
Like, come on. 

647
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,600
Older me now could probably 
build a smarter team around that

648
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,400
and just probably handle it with
no problem, but younger me use 

649
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,040
fly. 
Use. 

650
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,480
Fly. 
Yeah, there. 

651
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,040
Yeah, All you do is you just 
recruited Jiggy. 

652
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Yeah, if he was up and flew up 
in the air, like the guy just 

653
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,320
would have blown up and killed 
himself. 

654
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,600
So that would be an easy 
problem. 

655
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,960
Like around the solution, around
that problem, like literally 

656
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,840
right there. 
Dig or. 

657
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,720
Something, yeah. 
Yeah, something like that. 

658
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,680
But yeah, I remember, I remember
getting it at the at the height 

659
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,360
of, of Pokémon mania and the, 
the transfer pack was such like 

660
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,800
a novel thing because, you know,
that was kind of something that 

661
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,600
everyone kind of like dreamed 
talk about be like, oh, it'd be 

662
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,920
so cool if there's like a 
Pokémon game on the TV and 

663
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,360
they're like, not have to see 
the Pokémon on on your Game Boy.

664
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,720
And so I think the novel thing 
about Pokémon Stadium around 

665
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,640
that time was like, what what 
you guys were saying is like 

666
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,880
seeing the Pokémon in 3D, like 
that was kind of kind of like a 

667
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,920
fulfilment of that wish and then
you wouldn't get something like 

668
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,160
that again. 
I mean, yeah, I think he had 

669
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,280
like the Pokémon Coliseum games 
on GameCube. 

670
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,040
But like, you wouldn't have like
a full like 3D experience of 

671
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,680
like Pokémon until I think it 
was Sword and Shield was like 

672
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,120
the real genesis of Pokémon 
making the jump like to the big 

673
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,480
screen in like a meaningful way.
So this was was real. 

674
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680
It was really a novel idea. 
And like, of course, at the time

675
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,280
with with Pokémonia sweeping 
everybody like this is a slam 

676
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,160
dunk idea like that. 
There's no way this was not 

677
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,920
going to not be successful. 
And they really had the two 

678
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,760
elements that when I look back 
on that era of Pokémon and what 

679
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,840
made those games successful in 
Pokémon Stadium. 

680
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,800
And when it was the ability to 
have your Pokémon that you 

681
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,000
caught with the transfer pack 
and then the multiplayer element

682
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,040
with with your friends, the 
battling and the trading. 

683
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,400
And like that's the two pillars 
that were really the driving 

684
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,200
force of Pokémon in those early 
days that kind of predated the 

685
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,040
Internet in a lot of ways. 
It was talking with your friends

686
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,160
on the playground. 
It was trading on the, you know,

687
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,960
on the swings and trading cards 
and having your friends over for

688
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,760
a sleepover and everybody link 
cabling and battling at that was

689
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,159
it was a whole experience. 
Like it's so hard to like. 

690
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,800
And I think that's where like a 
lot of like our nostalgia and 

691
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,560
Gen. 1 is rooted because like, 
not now. 

692
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,120
A lot of the younger kids are 
like Gen. 1 fucking sucks and 

693
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,360
those games are stupid. 
And you're like, listen here. 

694
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,159
There's only 150 or 151. 
Yeah, there's. 

695
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:31,719
Only 150, but they they don't 
understand, yeah, they don't 

696
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,120
understand like the the social 
phenomena around the games at 

697
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,199
that time. 
And I think probably the closest

698
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,000
thing that these games that they
maybe have experienced would be 

699
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,120
like the summer that Pokémon Go 
came out and everybody was just 

700
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,560
like freaking was just like 
running around everywhere. 

701
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,679
That was the closest thing to 
like what this was like. 

702
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,480
And so I think just the ability 
to play with their friends and 

703
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,520
have the Pokémon from your game 
made it feel like a really like 

704
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:01,560
personal experience playing it 
now on the Switch Online, both 

705
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,280
versions, is it what you don't 
have that transfer pack element 

706
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,400
and that really strips out like 
those. 

707
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,640
It's cool. 
You can battle online with 

708
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,920
people that's really novel, but 
without the the personality of 

709
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,800
like the team that you make, the
team of your Pokémon that you 

710
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,280
handcraft and train and build 
up. 

711
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,880
It just feels so like, I don't 
want to say soulless, but it 

712
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,480
feels empty a little bit like 
that. 

713
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,360
And like half the stuff, half 
the stuff you need the transfer 

714
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,280
pack to do. 
Like you can't use the lab 

715
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,240
without the transfer pack. 
You can't use the Gameboy tower 

716
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,880
without the transfer pack like. 
It's a lot worse than the first 

717
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,480
one than the second one. 
Agreed, agreed. 

718
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,320
And I'm sorry, but the as a 
person, I've played every 

719
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,080
generation I've, you know, 
looked at like I've dabbed a 

720
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,440
little bit like competitive and 
stuff. 

721
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,960
Being stuck with the rental 
Pokémon. 

722
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,600
A lot of the rental Pokémon are 
garbage. 

723
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,240
They're like they're bad, their 
move sets are bad, like their 

724
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,960
stats are bad. 
Yeah, yeah. 

725
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,560
Yeah, that's the thing. 
It's like they. 

726
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,240
Purposely are great. 
Bad moves they're like they're 

727
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:04,640
like you have this amazing 
Pokémon like I I'm just throwing

728
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,760
out an example. 
This is not like a real thing, 

729
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,680
but it's like you have like 
Moltres, right? 

730
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,120
A legendary bird, And then it's 
like it's got Lear or something.

731
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,680
You're like, when am I going to 
use Lear as mole? 

732
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,400
Trays. 
I was going to say like tackle 

733
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,280
or something like, you know, 
like tail Wick. 

734
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,960
The one I the one I was going 
for immediately because I know 

735
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,440
it's really good in Gen. 1 
Alakazam was when I was like 

736
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,640
picking and like the move set on
Alakazam fucking it doesn't have

737
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,400
psychic. 
They do like confusion, like 

738
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,640
kinesis and like two other 
moves. 

739
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,840
They're just like useless. 
So you have like this really, 

740
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,160
and but like the, if you go to 
like Abra, the first form, Abra 

741
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,880
knows fucking psychic. 
So you're just like, like, what 

742
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,120
are we doing here? 
Why would you get rid of it? 

743
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,160
Yeah, you. 
Went on that's insane yeah yeah,

744
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,000
that's the thing too, right. 
It's like it doesn't matter 

745
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,640
which evolution you pick, 
they're all level 50 and they 

746
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,880
all have pre chosen move sets 
and stuff and like that. 

747
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Yeah, you're right. 
Soulless for some reason is the 

748
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,720
first thing that came to mind 
too when you were when you were 

749
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,040
talking. 
But it's like there's the 

750
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:14,680
investment isn't there? 
And I think because you're not 

751
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,760
embodying the trainer themselves
in this, you're just throwing 

752
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,240
the pokeballs out. 
You're just picking the things 

753
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:26,680
you're you're not, you're not 
embodying anything in this in 

754
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,600
this game. 
So all you really have is what 

755
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,880
you've worked towards, which is 
your move set in your Pokémon, 

756
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,280
regardless of what level they 
are when you transfer them 

757
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:42,440
without that, it's just press a 
press R or down C or whatever 

758
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,000
the and then again and then do 
it again and then do it again. 

759
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,000
And it's like, OK, sure, I 
played another castle like is 

760
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,880
that what's his face? 
Just explode over there self 

761
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,840
destruct. 
Indeed. 

762
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,240
Volt or whatever, whoever is 
that supposed to be. 

763
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,360
Volt. 
Volt Oh yeah, yeah, they all 

764
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,400
have names too, like the Yeah CC
look at that. 

765
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,720
Yeah. 
He named them all. 

766
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,520
I was laughing at the names a 
minute ago. 

767
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,840
It was like vault fault. 
CC Jigglypuff was Jig Jig which 

768
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,200
immediately my eyes were drawn 
to. 

769
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,680
There you go. 
You're in this game, you're in 

770
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,360
this game. 
I want to know. 

771
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,320
What to me? 
I think that's the the CPU teams

772
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,080
though, Yeah, it is I think 
unless. 

773
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,640
Yeah, the CPU teams say they're 
really. 

774
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:24,640
Teams. 
Yeah. 

775
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,120
I think I don't know. 
I'm I'm we're watching like a 

776
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,000
long play thing of of, of it. 
It's not anything I played, but 

777
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,760
yeah, so I look, I, I, I, I 
think again, I think they're 

778
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,600
cool. 
I I don't know about any of the 

779
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,800
mini games, if they're really 
worth sort of digging into in 

780
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,520
it. 
When they came to switch online,

781
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,000
I was like, oh, this is a great 
idea. 

782
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,960
You can play people online. 
And I remember trying this is 

783
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,520
like at least a year ago when 
they put them in, maybe even 

784
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,120
more. 
They've been on there for for a 

785
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,400
decent amount. 
I haven't, I haven't subbed to 

786
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,400
switch online since like early 
2024. 

787
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,880
I kind of just let it lapse and 
I don't really miss it that much

788
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,040
in, in this moment, but I'm sure
that'll change when the next one

789
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,320
comes out. 
But I, I like, I was excited for

790
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,960
it. 
And then I hit that same wall 

791
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,360
that you were just talking about
where it's like, oh, but OK, 

792
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,680
like am I better than the other 
person? 

793
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,640
I don't know if it really 
matters because there's not a 

794
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,960
whole lot of like extra skill 
involved and maybe they just 

795
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,840
have a really shitty move set 
that it that's what makes me 

796
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,240
lose. 
And it's like, well, shit, like 

797
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,000
all right, well, on to the next 
one. 

798
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,480
I guess. 
You know, I, I didn't find 

799
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:43,200
replaying either of these the 
last couple weeks to to feel 

800
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,600
that difference. 
I think 2 looks a little 

801
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,760
cleaner, you know, and and I 
thinks playing them on Switch 

802
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,000
online for what I remember at 
the time and Eric, you can tell 

803
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,160
me otherwise, but they've done a
decent job of sort of smoothing 

804
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,600
out some edges in those games in
general on switch online. 

805
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,880
Like I think I think their their
emulation of them on the on the 

806
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,320
system has been decently, 
decently done. 

807
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,720
So yeah, things look a little 
nicer than probably if I when I 

808
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,920
the one that I emulated is 
probably what it looks like very

809
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520
close to what it was if I had 
the actual cartridge, which is a

810
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080
little bit chunky and muddy. 
But I think largely the games 

811
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,160
look OK too. 
I don't know if you guys felt 

812
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:19,840
any different. 
Yeah. 

813
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,080
They're fine. 
I think it's for a first go 

814
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,840
round in 3D Pokémon. 
I actually think, I actually 

815
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,840
think the Pokémon models 
themselves are really good. 

816
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,800
The environment's pretty basic, 
but like the Pokémon themselves 

817
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,960
look pretty good and we really 
didn't get this part. 

818
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,960
I I guess. 
I guess we did have some on 

819
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,800
GameCube, right? 
You were saying Colosseum and 

820
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,280
stuff but. 
That's it really. 

821
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:52,000
I yeah, but we didn't really get
lots of 3D Pokémon until like 

822
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,120
X&Y. 
It's certainly not a mobile. 

823
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,600
And the sprites got wicked, 
yeah. 

824
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,720
Yeah, yeah, I, I think, I guess,
oh, actually, never mind. 

825
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,160
We're missing a huge thing that 
would have come out just after 

826
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,280
this or I guess in between would
be snap, I guess. 

827
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Snap, you saw a lot of these 
same models. 

828
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:13,000
Oh yeah, pretty of a snap. 
Yeah, obviously very different 

829
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,880
game, but like I'm looking at 
Electabuzz here. 

830
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,760
I'm like, Oh yeah, where do I 
know that I. 

831
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,160
Remember throwing an apple at 
you? 

832
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,320
Exactly, exactly what I was 
thinking. 

833
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I fed you apples and you went. 

834
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,520
To your Bunny, was snap. 
Was that the? 

835
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Was that the same year? 
I think it was 90, yeah, 98 or 

836
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,240
99. 
I'm going to look that up, 

837
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:31,920
actually. 
Great question. 

838
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Wonder if they just use some of 
the same sprites or something. 

839
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,400
Not the sprites, but some of the
same models. 

840
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,280
Yeah, yeah. 
Definitely looks the same. 

841
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,480
Yeah, and the electabuzz does 
too, which is why it clued clued

842
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,440
into me. 
So it came out almost exactly a 

843
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,000
year later. 
I'm sure they use reuse some of 

844
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,840
the assets, that would make 
sense. 

845
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,600
If they didn't, that'd be kind 
of silly. 

846
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,440
Extra work. 
Extra work like. 

847
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Yeah, I think in terms of 
playing them on the Switch 

848
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,720
Online, I, I thought that the 
presentation overall and I 

849
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:05,040
thought 2 looked a lot better 
than than one because I kind of 

850
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,400
played them in an afternoon 
back-to-back. 

851
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,720
And I just thought everything 
about Two's presentation was was

852
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,080
a lot better. 
I thought the 3D models were a 

853
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,680
little cleaner. 
I thought like all the menus and

854
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,160
like the screen reselect your 
Pokémon. 

855
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,360
That stuff all looked a lot 
better in Pokémon Stadium 1. 

856
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,320
I was just like all this looks 
like something I could make in 

857
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,240
in like Photoshop and like my 
graphic design skills aren't 

858
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,880
like top tier. 
I'm self-taught. 

859
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,440
So I feel like they're 
definitely up the presentation 

860
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,920
level for the the second 
generation, but I really think 

861
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,560
they missed an opportunity on 
the Switch online. 

862
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,600
Because my thought process would
be if you're going to put up 

863
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,600
Pokémon Stadium, then on the the
Gameboy offering for the online,

864
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200
you should put the game, the 
Pokémon games on there. 

865
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,120
And then somehow make that work 
into like, oh, you have saved 

866
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,080
data on the Switch online for 
Pokémon. 

867
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,000
Use that in Pokémon Stadium. 
Like I feel like that would 

868
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,000
that's me as a no. 
Brainer 100% yeah. 

869
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,080
Maybe. 
Why would they not put Pokémon 

870
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,800
on Game Boy in the first place? 
Just in general, why is the red 

871
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,720
and blue not on there? 
Or yeah. 

872
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,080
Or is the maybe? 
It's like technology thing, but 

873
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,320
I feel like they can make that 
work like. 

874
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,760
Yeah, there's got to be a way to
do it. 

875
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Maybe it's not as simple as we 
think it is to like transfer 

876
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,960
that data over. 
Or maybe there would be some 

877
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,520
weird thing where you have to 
make sure it's saved on the 

878
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,680
cloud, which would be fine 
because you have NSL at that 

879
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,320
point anyway. 
So it's like, OK, that should be

880
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,120
fine. 
But like that would make a huge 

881
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,680
difference. 
They would have so many people 

882
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,840
playing these games. 
I think if. 

883
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,080
You could do that. 
This would be a different 

884
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,680
experience too, even like single
player and multiplayer, because 

885
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,080
then you're taking your personal
teams to go and and five people 

886
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,760
online. 
So I think that's a, that's a 

887
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,000
way more interesting prospect 
than than what it is. 

888
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,200
Yeah, yeah, I'll say Jiggy, the 
first one of the first things 

889
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,880
that came to mind plays. 
I know it's a completely 

890
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,280
different game, obviously, but I
mentioned Puzzle League before 

891
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,600
and one of our like the main 
disappointment that we had in 

892
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,400
that game was we couldn't 
understand why it didn't matter 

893
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,400
what Pokémon you picked, like 
the elements and all that, like 

894
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,840
it nothing mattered. 
You could, you could do fire and

895
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,360
water and it it made no 
difference. 

896
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,080
At least this next N64 Pokémon 
game it mattered. 

897
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,480
That's true. 
At least we got that back. 

898
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,320
It was I'm trying to find my 
sound bite here because it's 

899
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,160
legendary of the here it is, 
here it is. 

900
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,560
I just love it being selected 
for this event is. 

901
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Such a well, there's no time to 
explain everything. 

902
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,160
There's no time. 
There's no time. 

903
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,200
You can't explain it. 
There's no time. 

904
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,040
That intro to that game is 
amazing. 

905
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,280
You have lots to do. 
There's lots to explain, but 

906
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,920
there's no time to explain. 
Get going. 

907
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,600
Like what? 
What's that? 

908
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,280
All, Professor Oak says. 
And then he just. 

909
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,080
I wish I could help you, but 
there's no. 

910
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,880
Time, but there's chance. 
The Professor Oak. 

911
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,560
Classic, Legend, classic. 
And Speaking of sound, I, I 

912
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,800
didn't get a chance to record, 
but actually maybe I could 

913
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,800
actually play the sound on here.
I want to see if it's going to 

914
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,960
show up. 
I guess you're back. 

915
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,200
One announcer. 
Let's go. 

916
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,960
They're tearing. 
Each other down. 

917
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,760
Oh yeah. 
They strike, fighting, potent 

918
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,080
fighting. 
Some Pokémon. 

919
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,360
Oh, who is it? 
Oh, it's dango. 

920
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:27,240
It's burrowed underground again.
Again, I, I think I, I like the 

921
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:28,480
announcer guy. 
I like this guy. 

922
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,760
I wish I could do that for a 
Pokémon game, but I would change

923
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,720
the way I always say Pokémon. 
Like yeah, I feel like we all 

924
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:40,960
say Pokémon. 
I no, I would if I'm naturally 

925
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,920
like just so I would probably 
say Pokémon like. 

926
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,800
I like, I like when they 
emphasize it. 

927
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,240
It's supposed. 
To be Pokémon, Yeah. 

928
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:51,680
That's what it's supposed to be,
yeah. 

929
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,480
Who is that Pokémon? 
You know, it's like, it really 

930
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,720
emphasized, like, hey, I just 
love it. 

931
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,720
It's amazing. 
It's got a little, little accent

932
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,920
on it, that's that's why. 
That's I think I shorthand to to

933
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,480
Pokémon, but I think people tell
me I have a little bit like that

934
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,320
like Midwest Chicago, Chicago in
like draw a little bit. 

935
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,680
So that's probably just that. 
Could be that, I mean, I don't. 

936
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,480
Know I mean that would all of 
us. 

937
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,720
We all have something. 
Yeah, I'm sure I have a Canadian

938
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:18,120
accent that I have no idea 
exists. 

939
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,080
I'm sure everybody. 
Hears it, but just say you have 

940
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,360
no idea about it. 
I don't know any abood abood it.

941
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,640
I can't. 
I can't hear it. 

942
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,480
I have too much Maple syrup in 
my mouth. 

943
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,800
I don't know. 
I can't hear it while I'm in the

944
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,280
igloo. 
It's it's good. 

945
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,120
I like it. 
I there's some repetitive things

946
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,120
as as you're going to get with 
any game like this, but it adds 

947
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,840
a little element that you don't 
get otherwise. 

948
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,120
Again, the 3D part is obviously 
the big draw here, but at least 

949
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,360
you're getting a couple of 
things. 

950
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,640
You know, you got music going 
the whole time. 

951
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,240
At least that guy's sort of 
commenting and he's not just 

952
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:59,520
saying a lot of generic things 
because sometimes there's oh, BB

953
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,560
actually says what the move is. 
He'll say the name of the actual

954
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,520
Pokémon like those things I 
think are an added bonus here to

955
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,640
just sort of picking random, you
know, just playing any any other

956
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,560
Pokémon game that would be that 
would be on here. 

957
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,600
So and I don't believe that 
there's any there's that minimal

958
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,600
voice over or like intro video 
and and puzzle league. 

959
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,120
I don't think that there's any 
voice over and snap. 

960
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,200
So I think you're pretty much 
getting the gist of the sort of,

961
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680
you know, voice over at least 
music isn't isn't all of them. 

962
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,800
But like getting a lot of that 
here, which again, you got to 

963
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,200
put a lot of stuff on this 
cartridge. 

964
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,640
I thought they did OK with that.
So it's something it's not the 

965
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,920
best. 
Thing I wonder something, I 

966
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,760
wonder if looking back, because 
my stupid little kid brain would

967
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,800
have bit just been like Pokémon 
like amazing like no matter what

968
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,160
it is, you know? 
Sure, but I wonder how many 

969
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,360
people may have been 
disappointed that this wasn't a 

970
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,520
fully fledged like 3D Pokémon 
outing like the handheld. 

971
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:07,200
You know, I can't help but feel 
like if this released and I was 

972
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,960
like how I am now, I'd have been
like, why didn't they just make 

973
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,600
it like the Game Boy games, but 
like in a full 3D environment? 

974
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,360
Like it's cool, but it almost 
makes this game like being 

975
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,760
assuming it was a full priced 
release as well. 

976
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,720
Yeah, I'm sure like I'm thinking
in terms of that. 

977
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,480
I'm just like it feels more like
an accessory and you need to 

978
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,240
have the Game Boy game rather 
than a stand alone title, which 

979
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:34,160
for me brings it down like like 
it's got cool elements and stuff

980
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,080
and it's not bad, but it's just 
like you have to keep that in 

981
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,160
mind. 
And especially at the time, like

982
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,880
you needed those things, you 
needed the Game Boy game, you 

983
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,640
needed the transfer pack. 
I, I don't know, did like did 

984
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,760
they all come with the transfer 
pack like Pokémon Stadium one? 

985
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,840
I'm sure you could buy the 
cartridge separately, I didn't. 

986
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,760
Own it. 
So I'm not sure I I doubt you. 

987
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,960
I doubt they all came with it. 
The only I mean I I this is 

988
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,760
actually really funny. 
Actually, I should have messaged

989
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,040
you guys this when I saw it last
week. 

990
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,720
I went to one of the used game 
stores or one of the very few 

991
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:06,840
there in my area and they had 
three. 

992
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,680
I don't know how they got 3 but 
three sealed with the transfer 

993
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,960
pack game of of this of the 
first Pokémon stadium like you 

994
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,240
know. 
Like a big box. 

995
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,400
Yeah, it was the big box, but 
you know like stupid price, 

996
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,640
right? 
Like I think it was a few 100 

997
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,760
bucks or something stupid like 
that. 

998
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,680
Like like these places will 
charge. 

999
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,040
But I was like Oh yeah, this 
came with like I forgot that it 

1000
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,640
that it could have come with the
transfer pack. 

1001
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,160
For some reason in my mind, 
before I saw this in on the 

1002
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,000
shelf, I was like, oh, I could 
picture this number 2, but I 

1003
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,960
could not picture that one. 
I don't know. 

1004
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,360
My I I had a transfer pack and 
my friend did, but he also had 

1005
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,280
the game. 
I have no idea if he if it if he

1006
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,640
bought them together or 
whatever. 

1007
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,440
I assume he would. 
But yeah, sorry Eric, you're 

1008
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,480
gonna say. 
Yeah, so I'm just doing some 

1009
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,040
background research. 
You guys are saying some stuff. 

1010
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,080
So there what there is an inbox 
version that came with the 

1011
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,600
transfer pack. 
So it was game and transfer 

1012
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,920
pack. 
There's one on eBay right now 

1013
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:04,760
that's authenticated and factory
sealed going for $1150. 

1014
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,760
Oh boy, Jesus, yeah. 
The one I saw was I think for 

1015
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,760
something. 
Yeah, which was, which is 

1016
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,520
enough. 
I was like, no, also like the 

1017
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,480
whole point is like they have 
that transfer pack, you got to 

1018
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,680
open it that whatever I that's 
just, that's just the state of 

1019
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,800
of these collection things at 
this point. 

1020
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,040
So yeah. 
And I was also looking at the 

1021
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,760
announcer. 
So the announcer was a voice 

1022
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,640
actor, American voice actor 
named Ted Lewis. 

1023
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,840
OK, he was also the announcer in
the anime and he has voiced like

1024
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,040
he voices tons of characters in 
the anime. 

1025
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,440
Like of course, he's voiced like
major characters, minor 

1026
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,640
characters. 
He's he's voiced like Pokémon. 

1027
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,280
So that's actually kind of a 
cool little tie in there. 

1028
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,360
I didn't, I didn't know that 
'cause I always knew that the 

1029
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,800
announcer voice sounded like the
one from the anime, at least in 

1030
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,120
my memory. 
So I was just like, I have to 

1031
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,480
look that up real quick. 
So Ted Lewis shout out. 

1032
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,120
Nice legend all. 
Right, way to go, Teddy. 

1033
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,360
The other thing too is when 
Jiggy when you were mentioning 

1034
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,680
the like, maybe being 
disappointed with this, I 

1035
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,080
wouldn't be surprised if that's 
the thought I had like for sure 

1036
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,080
at that time thinking great, 
maybe I didn't see a commercial 

1037
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,880
or I didn't see it in a magazine
ad or something. 

1038
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,720
So I wouldn't have wouldn't have
known the difference. 

1039
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:19,600
Or maybe it didn't really tell 
you and it just showed you what 

1040
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,600
the battles look like. 
You know that that's kind of a 

1041
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,920
thing that they would do with 
like a, you know, a print out on

1042
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,600
like a A1 page and Nintendo 
Power or game pro or something 

1043
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,280
like that. 
What I did find though, when I 

1044
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,400
was looking up some of the 
development stuff for this is 

1045
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,440
like a lot of early ish games in
the first like two 2 1/2 years 

1046
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,640
of this console was that it was 
supposed to be a 64DD game, 

1047
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:45,120
which would have given it more 
memory, which is possible that 

1048
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,760
at that time that's potentially 
what they wanted to do. 

1049
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,960
It doesn't say that explicitly 
when I looked it up, but it did 

1050
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,880
say that that that's was the 
plan was to make it that. 

1051
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,760
So like, you know, even if they 
did do that, I would be 

1052
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,560
surprised if it's just as long. 
If it's like a 30 hour game. 

1053
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,000
I doubt that's what it would 
have reached. 

1054
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,240
But maybe it would have been a 
three or four gym thing and or 

1055
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,720
A2 gym thing and then you play 
the the the the league or 

1056
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:10,840
whatever. 
I keep forgetting the name. 

1057
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,080
Maybe, but they would have had 
to make sure they found a way to

1058
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,160
at least get all the Pokémon in 
there, at least for the first 

1059
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,800
one, like would have found a 
way, But that was scrap just 

1060
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,240
like every other thing That was,
you know, 64 DD plans, right? 

1061
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:28,080
It was never gonna never gonna 
be that. 

1062
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,040
So I think that was I have. 
An add on part to that if you're

1063
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,040
interested, cuz I went down a 
weird rabbit hole with YouTube 

1064
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,720
videos and stuff. 
And so yeah, the 64 DD thing 

1065
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,040
100% accurate. 
And then it got it got turned 

1066
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,760
into a game. 
And this was actually a Japan 

1067
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,040
exclusive game first called it 
was called pocket monsters 

1068
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,800
stadium. 
And the original game only had 

1069
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,560
like 50 Pokémon in it because 
yeah, they were trying to 

1070
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,000
develop it with that DD 
technology for the more memory. 

1071
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,200
And then they're just like, this
isn't working. 

1072
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,160
So like let's just slap the most
like popular 50 Pokémon in there

1073
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,560
called they and and release it. 
So the first version that Japan 

1074
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,720
got was like a severely limited 
version of a game that I think 

1075
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:13,560
their intention was to like have
it be used for like official 

1076
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,040
like Nintendo Pokémon 
tournaments that they were 

1077
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,000
having at the time. 
And then when it came over to 

1078
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,440
United States, it was like the 
full working 150 called Pokémon 

1079
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,280
Stadium. 
And then that version in Japan 

1080
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,760
was actually Pocket Monster 
Stadium 2. 

1081
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,440
So 1 here was actually two over 
in Japan 'cause they had that 

1082
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,080
first kind. 
Of I remember hearing that. 

1083
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Prototype. 
It's. 

1084
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,800
It's really, really strange, but
I just thought that was kind of 

1085
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,840
kind of kind of cool And what's.
Interesting about that too is 

1086
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,920
very often it's the opposite, 
right? 

1087
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,960
We get sort of the the not 
lesser than, but we'll get it 

1088
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,080
later or we'll get it later and 
it's not gonna have the same 

1089
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,800
features or they get 2 like the 
Japanese market at least at that

1090
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,760
time. 
We'll get a couple before you 

1091
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,240
even get one. 
You know, Final Fantasy is a 

1092
00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:58,680
perfect example of something 
like that. 

1093
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,360
Like in the 90s, like. 3 versus 
6. 

1094
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,920
Three is 6 yeah, stuff like 
that, right. 

1095
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,320
Like those types of things. 
And maybe it's the exact same 

1096
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,200
game, but like, it's, it's it's 
a weird sort of thing between 

1097
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,600
the markets and, and the, you 
know, Japanese side of Nintendo 

1098
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,520
and stuff. 
And obviously I think Sega ran 

1099
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,640
into a bunch of those problems 
too, but that was a whole other 

1100
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,480
reason. 
Like, they just basically feuded

1101
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,400
with each other constantly. 
The same company. 

1102
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,160
Yeah. 
So I, I think like I think doing

1103
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,800
more with this would be cool, 
but I do get at the time that 

1104
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,680
this is what they wanted to do. 
The other thing I did, I did C2 

1105
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,000
with this whole, you know, the 
background of it too, was that 

1106
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,000
part of the idea of I don't have
the I should have written down 

1107
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,600
the name of the the CEO of a 
Nintendo at the time. 

1108
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,960
They were thinking that this 
would be with the transfer pack 

1109
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,520
thing, that you could sort of 
play this game almost on the go.

1110
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,120
But I guess that's kind of what 
like the link cable ended up 

1111
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,320
being and stuff too. 
Like it was going to be a little

1112
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,960
bit more of a mobile experience,
like Stadium specifically. 

1113
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,160
And I was like, oh, that's 
interesting. 

1114
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,600
And then I thought, yeah, but 
that's just really what the 

1115
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,200
transfer pack or the transfer 
cable or whatever was for Game 

1116
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,240
Boy. 
But I guess in 3D would have 

1117
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,880
been kind of cool to kind of be 
able to find a way to do that. 

1118
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,920
But then you also have to have 
the handheld that's able to do 

1119
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,240
that and like it's a whole other
thing. 

1120
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:22,360
So they they had ideas already 
at the time. 

1121
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,360
It was just a matter of how do 
you implement this and do so 

1122
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,320
much at once. 
And the 64 is already a huge 

1123
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,920
step forward in in technology 
and things like that. 

1124
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:36,080
So, you know, it's cool. 
It's a small like early 

1125
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,000
iterations of things that we 
kind of take for granted at this

1126
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,800
point now, I would say just 
being able to play these games 

1127
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,280
on Switch online is already to 
be like, oh, shit, look at that.

1128
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,080
You know, it seems like a 
nothing, we obviously we have a 

1129
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,440
couple note notes that we would 
add to it and like how they 

1130
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,880
could improve it. 
But like you could play this 

1131
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,600
online. 
That's pretty sweet. 

1132
00:55:57,720 --> 00:55:59,840
You know, at least there's an 
opportunity to do that. 

1133
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,520
So I don't. 
I don't know if a lot of people 

1134
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,400
play it now though 'cause they 
could just play the new Pokémon 

1135
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,360
game instead. 
Of yeah, I mean, let's be honest

1136
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,240
here, the new Pokémon game isn't
that dramatically, I mean. 

1137
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,040
Is it not good? 
I don't. 

1138
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,360
Know it's OK. 
No, it's, it's fine. 

1139
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,200
OK. 
I guess there's more. 

1140
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,120
I played, I played all of them. 
Yeah, I get, I get them all. 

1141
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:26,720
I play them all and I just don't
feel like the leaps are really 

1142
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,640
there, you know, I, they always 
feel like behind somehow. 

1143
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,960
And this almost feels like way 
ahead of anything they did for 

1144
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,280
like 10 years, 15 years. 
I don't know. 

1145
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,080
Right. 
Yeah. 

1146
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:42,800
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 
I think there's, I think there's

1147
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:48,080
a genius to having Pokémon, 
whether it's intentional or not,

1148
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,800
to having Pokémon be on 
handhelds. 

1149
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,600
I think that like if it was a 
home console thing from the 

1150
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,040
beginning or like largely a home
console thing and until you had 

1151
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,720
the Switch, you'd have to play 
it on your couch. 

1152
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,920
I think being able to take it 
everywhere, whether you could 

1153
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,160
transfer Pokémon or not or 
battle or not. 

1154
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,120
I, I think that's a huge reason 
why it's, it's so successful. 

1155
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:16,800
But with that, like you just 
said, one of the big reasons or 

1156
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,800
one of the things that refreshed
it was a game like this and it 

1157
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,320
was 3D and sitting on your 
couch. 

1158
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,440
So it's like, where's that 
middle ground? 

1159
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,040
I guess the new ones are kind of
the middle ground of that, but I

1160
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,040
also haven't played them so I'm 
just assuming that's the case. 

1161
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,440
Legend legends of Archaeus or 
Arceus or Archaeus. 

1162
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,040
I'm I actually don't know how to
pronounce it. 

1163
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,040
I actually don't know. 
Yeah, that I really enjoyed that

1164
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,920
one. 
It's a different format, but 

1165
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,200
still feels like traditional 
Pokémon in my mind. 

1166
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,840
The simple adjustments that they
made to the formula of like, 

1167
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,920
first you get to explore 
everywhere, which is really 

1168
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,160
cool. 
You catch Pokémon by just 

1169
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,480
chucking a bunch of pokeballs at
them, which is amazing. 

1170
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,640
And they have variations in the 
size of the Pokémon. 

1171
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,760
So like you can get alpha 
versions of Pokémon, which are 

1172
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,360
basically just giant versions. 
Like they're really big. 

1173
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,240
So you get like a Scyther and 
he's like this big on the 

1174
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,080
screen, and then an alpha 
Scyther would be like this big 

1175
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,240
and they're like dramatically 
different. 

1176
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,200
And then to like hunt for 
shinies and then to find shiny 

1177
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,720
alpha variance adds just like 
another depth of like 

1178
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,400
exploration and grinding. 
That's really cool to me. 

1179
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,320
Like a good incentive. 
Yeah. 

1180
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,680
I'm very excited about the new 
Pokémon Legends game. 

1181
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,680
I think that's a really cool 
direction to take. 

1182
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:38,120
And I think Legends of Archaeus 
was way better than Scarlet and 

1183
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,440
Violet in my opinion. 
I feel like Scarlet and Violet 

1184
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,760
took elements from Legends 
trying to improve the formula 

1185
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,320
and it didn't do as good. 
But I have no, I, I 100%, yeah, 

1186
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,440
100% agree with you. 
I think, I think Legends RCS is 

1187
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,760
like the most bold departure 
they've had. 

1188
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,720
And it's still not even that 
much of A departure. 

1189
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,560
Like it's not, it's nothing that
groundbreaking, like they're 

1190
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,120
just tweaking some things about 
the generic formula. 

1191
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,720
But yeah, I, I agree. 
I thought that was better. 

1192
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,480
And like Scarlet and Violet, 
there's some performance stuff 

1193
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,000
there. 
It's got the bones of a Pokémon 

1194
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:08,840
game. 
Like you know what you're 

1195
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,320
getting this this experience 
specifically, like going back to

1196
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,360
the stadium is fascinating 
because it feels like it's so 

1197
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,000
dependent on the transfer pack 
technology. 

1198
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,480
And I don't really feel like any
other Nintendo 64 game really 

1199
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,120
fully utilizes it to the extent 
that stadium did. 

1200
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,840
I mean, like there are some I 
like no Mario and Golf and Mario

1201
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,480
Tennis had transfer pack 
elements because there were Game

1202
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,160
Boy versions of those games. 
And I think Perfect Dark had a 

1203
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,120
transfer pack element to it as 
well. 

1204
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,160
But those are just like, oh, 
unlocked, but but this is like 

1205
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,960
unlocked extra things, I think, 
or and stuff like that. 

1206
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,000
I don't. 
Remember, if it actually had it 

1207
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,920
or if it was cancelled, I know 
it wanted to work with like the 

1208
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,960
Game Boy Camera. 
Like there there was like a plan

1209
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,440
to work with the Game Boy Camera
where it could like, take a 

1210
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,960
picture of you and then put your
face on like the model of the 

1211
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,200
enemies. 
Yeah, right. 

1212
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,960
Or whatever. 
Interesting. 

1213
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,920
I don't remember if it was 
implemented, but there is a Game

1214
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,920
Boy version of Perfect Dark, so 
probably. 

1215
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,080
It's also interesting. 
It's got a it's got a rumble 

1216
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,200
pack, man. 
It's like Poke. 

1217
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,720
It's like Pokémon Pinball, which
is also an amazing game. 

1218
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,200
Mickey Speedway, Mickey. 
Speedway. 

1219
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speedway. 
Yeah, Transfer pack, yeah. 

1220
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,120
Yeah, like the one though I've 
we've talked about this because 

1221
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,640
I love the the golf games. 
The G1 is very similar to this. 

1222
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,640
I mean, you, you get, I think 
you get more, I would have it 

1223
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,960
with this like it, it improves 
this game dramatically. 

1224
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,640
Pokémon Stadium, if you're 
transferring your Pokémon into 

1225
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,840
it with golf and and tennis, you
just put your character into it.

1226
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,560
Like it doesn't, you don't level
them up like you would in the 

1227
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,960
actual Game Boy game and stuff. 
It's really just like, oh, it's 

1228
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,200
another character you could 
pick, which is cool, but those 

1229
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,920
characters are not, you know, 
Canon Nintendo characters. 

1230
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,960
They're just generic Dave that, 
you know, happens to be the only

1231
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,080
person in the game that golf's 
left. 

1232
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,920
Because I'm weird like that. 
That's how I golf. 

1233
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,840
I can't. 
I feel like there's missed 

1234
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,320
opportunity with that 
technology. 

1235
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,160
I think I think you're right. 
That's exactly. 

1236
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,720
I don't know if you were saying 
that earlier where it was like 

1237
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,160
if it was a thing where like you
could just strap the the the 

1238
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,200
pack on the back of your NCC 4 
controller and play any Game Boy

1239
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,320
game on the the TV through the 
Nintendo 64. 

1240
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,040
That that would feel like. 
I mean, that way you don't have 

1241
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,800
to force everybody to be like 
you have to make a Game Boy tie 

1242
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,520
in with your N64 game to that 
you can use the transfer pack. 

1243
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,880
Then it has some additional use 
outside of that. 

1244
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,120
And it see that seems doable 
because the the Game Boy tower 

1245
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,880
elements of stadium 1 and two 
were just, it was just a Game 

1246
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,240
Boy emulator that ran that ran 
your cartridge to the transfer 

1247
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,400
pack. 
So they could have just made the

1248
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,920
Game Boy emulator technology and
I assume like built that into 

1249
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,720
the N64 and just had the 
transfer pack. 

1250
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,680
And maybe maybe I'm not a very 
smart technological guy, but to 

1251
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,280
me that makes sense in my like 
tiny brain. 

1252
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,800
So they could have don't. 
Worry. 

1253
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,720
It makes sense in my tiny brain.
Well, they. 

1254
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,240
Were doing some crazy shit. 
Tiny brains together all. 

1255
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,000
People 1 normal brain and we're 
all thinking the same thing. 

1256
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,720
It's OK. 
They were doing some crazy shit.

1257
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,640
I'm sure they could have figured
it out at Nintendo. 

1258
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,160
Like, yeah, like, so Toro WADA 
figured out how to get like the 

1259
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,600
Gen. 1 entirely of Gen. 1 onto 
the Pokémon Silver card and Gold

1260
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,600
card. 
So it's like, they could have 

1261
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,280
figured this shit out and that 
would have been an amazing, 

1262
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,800
like, the Game Boy was still 
going strong. 

1263
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,600
That would have been an amazing 
like additional use of the 

1264
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,800
transfer. 
That the color Game Boy Color 

1265
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,520
came out right, pretty much as 
this game came out or very 

1266
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,960
within months of this game, like
now you have these games in 

1267
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,200
quote UN quote color and like it
it would have been it would have

1268
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,680
been great. 
Any game like it doesn't matter 

1269
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:39,880
what game. 
It doesn't have to be a Pokémon 

1270
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,400
game, right. 
I have so many Game Boy Color 

1271
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,520
games. 
I would have loved to play some 

1272
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,800
of these like a racing game, 
like if it was Mickey Speedway 

1273
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,520
or something like that. 
Like I have a couple of Tony 

1274
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,840
Hawk games which are so strange,
like that'd be cool to play on a

1275
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,840
slightly bigger screen. 
Was my TV big at the time? 

1276
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,160
No, it was probably like 
literally like 16 inches or like

1277
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,960
it was nothing. 
I'm trying to think if there's a

1278
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,960
game like outside of like Guitar
Hero or Dance Sense Revolution 

1279
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,000
or things of that nature that 
was so dependent on like an 

1280
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,680
outside like peripheral. 
Like like it's like like like 

1281
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,040
Pokémon say. 
I can't think of one off the top

1282
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,520
of my head besides like. 
Rhythm is might be hurt Mario 

1283
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,560
Paint. 
Mario Paint. 

1284
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,320
Oh, without. 
Yeah. 

1285
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,040
Yeah. 
Yeah, without the mouse you 

1286
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,040
literally can't play that game. 
Or I think there's a couple of 

1287
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,080
things I think you could use the
controller for, like the music 

1288
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,800
thing and maybe the actual paint
thing, the actual like paint 

1289
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,000
game, mini game part of it. 
I think that's it. 

1290
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,320
But like you're not, you're not 
playing the same game, you're 

1291
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,400
not experiencing. 
So if we can switch. 

1292
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,000
To joy cons as the mouse we 
could get Mario paint on the 

1293
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,920
switch on lines or just Yep. 
The, the new switch, I would be,

1294
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,840
I, I, when I saw that that was 
something that they might be 

1295
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,080
doing, like when they showed a 
that that could be a thing and I

1296
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,680
didn't catch it when I watched 
that really brief sort of it. 

1297
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,720
Was like that wolf on Wall 
Street mean with like the the 

1298
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,080
beer and he's like. 
Yeah. 

1299
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,520
Yeah, yeah. 
Kind of like, yeah. 

1300
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,480
Mario Paint. 
Mario Paint I was that that I 

1301
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:13,680
was thinking, no, that's a a. 
Hollywood, by the way, we fit. 

1302
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,280
We fit, We fit. 
Two, that's a good peripheral. 

1303
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,640
Yeah, we fit 2 is a good one. 
Yeah, I if they make another 

1304
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,440
Mario Paint, oof. 
I'm not going to rush to get a 

1305
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,160
Switch too. 
But if they make a Mario Paint, 

1306
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,920
I might have to push some kids 
out of the way. 

1307
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,960
Man. 
That's the killer app for you, 

1308
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,440
huh? 
Dude, it's great. 

1309
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,080
It's crazy. 
I've talked about it before. 

1310
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,280
I think Mario Paint is one of 
the most innovative things 

1311
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,280
they've ever done. 
Like especially at that time, 

1312
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:46,000
who the fuck thinks about adding
a mouse to a console like that? 

1313
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,760
I know it's just a mouse but I 
don't know man. 

1314
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,200
And sadly it's like the only 
game that used it, which is a 

1315
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,240
little silly, but. 
You're talking to the Kingdom 

1316
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,240
Hearts guy. 
It's not just a mouse. 

1317
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,680
Yeah, no. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1318
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:04,960
And there's. 
Certain things that have 

1319
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:05,840
happened. 
Yeah. 

1320
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,440
Nintendo was on some crazy shit 
in the 80s and 90s so I mean 

1321
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,520
they wouldn't like a mouse. 
Seems like one of their more 

1322
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,200
tamer ideas. 
I think it's just, it's a very, 

1323
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,360
it's a very innovative idea. 
I think at the time when 

1324
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,320
computers were already very 
minimal. 

1325
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,560
So to be familiar enough with a 
mouse to be like, let's make a 

1326
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:31,000
whole game about this in 1993. 
I think it came out like that is

1327
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,320
that is something and I don't 
know, Switch tool will probably 

1328
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,000
have a bunch of, you know, ideas
which I hope they take advantage

1329
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,240
of Pokémon, they take advantage 
of Mario Payne, like I you know,

1330
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,400
all that kind of stuff. 
Like I think there's opportunity

1331
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,280
there, even though hardware 
wise, I'm sure it's always going

1332
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,680
to be a step, quote UN quote 
step behind the other the other 

1333
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,400
consoles. 
But switched it switched it well

1334
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,720
enough. 
I I don't think they really 

1335
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,880
care. 
I just need the the switch to 

1336
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,720
joy kinds and not drift and I 
will be happy. 

1337
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,760
I never I I was lucky enough I 
have AI have a launch switch, I 

1338
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,080
have the original joy cons and I
have one other set. 

1339
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,000
I never ran into it with mine. 
I got lucky. 

1340
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,160
I'm jealous. 
Every pair I bought drifty 

1341
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,200
within six months. 
Really I'm. 

1342
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,640
Really. 
I'm very salty about it I've 

1343
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,480
I've bought like 4 pairs of joy 
cons. 

1344
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,280
I currently only have my OLED 
pair. 

1345
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,720
Well actually I might have an 
extra pair, I'm not sure, I 

1346
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,040
don't remember. 
I never used them anyways 

1347
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,200
because they're tiny. 
I do not have big hands but 

1348
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:29,760
they're tiny to me so I can't 
imagine. 

1349
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,120
Might be like for a normal 
person. 

1350
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,080
I have. 
I have pretty pretty smallish 

1351
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,320
average size. 
Edge I'm like, yeah, my hands 

1352
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,320
are very average size and yes I 
have to hold them like this and 

1353
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,720
they still. 
Carpal tunnel requires me for my

1354
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,000
hands to look like claws. 
Look at this. 

1355
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Yeah, look at this. 
Yeah, yeah, it's brutal. 

1356
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,680
What's crazy is I feel the exact
same way about the way that the 

1357
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,600
joy cons feel like in handheld 
and stuff like that. 

1358
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,840
And yet, and I think it's just 
because of the game itself, I 

1359
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,320
still put 40 something hours, 50
something. 

1360
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,440
It's probably even more, 
probably double that of Hades 

1361
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,320
on, on Switch on. 
And I played it. 

1362
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,320
It's a great game, 90% handheld,
90% handheld cause at the time I

1363
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,760
was commuting and it was just 
like this and I just could not 

1364
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,200
stop playing that game. 
It's that's the perfect game to 

1365
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,760
my handhelds too. 
What's that? 

1366
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:23,840
Agreed. 
I'm right there with you. 

1367
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,680
I said that's a perfect handheld
game and I'm. 

1368
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,520
I agree 100%. 
It's one of the best games I 

1369
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,280
ever made, for sure. 
Yeah. 2 is so good already. 

1370
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,000
It's so good already. 
Already. 

1371
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,720
It's I'm waiting for it to come 
out of early access. 

1372
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:34,760
Yeah, I'm. 
I'm a sucker. 

1373
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,000
I'm a sucker. 
I got it right away. 

1374
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,320
I'm jealous. 
I'm like watching people through

1375
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,160
the window in the rain. 
Check it out. 

1376
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,320
I'm like, I'm yeah, oh, wait, 
I'll, I'll tell you, I'll say, 

1377
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,360
I'll say this right now and then
we'll stop talking about Hades. 

1378
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:52,640
The second one is already just 
as big, if not bigger than the 

1379
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,960
first one already. 
And it's been early access for 

1380
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,520
maybe six months as as of us 
sitting here at the like, it was

1381
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,160
like that from the beginning. 
It's insane. 

1382
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,640
It's insane. 
And it's just different enough 

1383
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,800
the way that it controls and 
what the character does. 

1384
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,320
That is, in my opinion, right 
now, 100% worth playing. 

1385
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,800
So OK, yeah, yeah, it's awesome.
Anyways, Pokémon Stadium, 

1386
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:22,120
everybody, pretty good. 
If you got a chance to get the 

1387
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,359
whole bang the whole shebang 
thing with the transfer packet, 

1388
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:27,040
I think you're really gonna get 
a lot more out of it. 

1389
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,319
If you've never played Snap, for
example. 

1390
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,720
This is a cool way to see a lot 
of these models for the first 

1391
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,640
time in 3D in this, in this type
of 3D at least. 

1392
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,240
And it's just it's it's 
interesting. 

1393
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,319
It's it's cool that they did 
this fun that we got to revisit 

1394
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:47,000
it, I think still, but we I 
think we're all kind of sort of 

1395
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,160
on the same wavelength here 
where it's like without that 

1396
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,319
extra investment from the 
transfer pack, it feels like 

1397
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,560
it's just, I don't know, it 
feels like a very much like 

1398
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,439
press A to continue. 
I don't know. 

1399
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,920
It's a very. 
It's a very It's a product of 

1400
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,120
its time. 
Sure. 

1401
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,319
And it is one of those games 
that I think actually, if you 

1402
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:13,200
went back and you are a 
collector and you had a transfer

1403
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,920
pack, an old Game Boy cart with 
a team, like that's how you get 

1404
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,800
the full experience out of this 
game. 

1405
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,000
You can play it on switching 
online and get kind of a feel 

1406
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,680
for it and see what it's like 
and kind of test the waters. 

1407
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,880
But if you really like, if 
you're super into it, if you're 

1408
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,439
like, Oh my gosh, Pokémon 
Stadium, this is it. 

1409
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,240
Definitely go back and get the 
actual game and the actual 

1410
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,960
hardware, and you'll have a much
more complete experience. 

1411
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,040
That's all I'm gonna say, yeah. 
I think you're absolutely right.

1412
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,279
I think it would be worth it. 
Honestly, as long as it doesn't 

1413
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:45,800
cost an arm and a leg I think it
would be worth it. 

1414
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:49,319
Pokémon Stadium 2 is kind of 
expensive, though not exactly. 

1415
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,160
OK, Yeah. 
Because the cart looks cooler, 

1416
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,120
obviously, yeah. 
And it's a later, later game 

1417
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,920
too, right? 
So like that always adds to it. 

1418
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,560
There's probably just less of 
them would be. 

1419
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,520
Maybe like 2000? 
Yeah, the first one is like 

1420
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,640
somewhere probably in like the 
$50 range. 

1421
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:09,560
And then U.S. dollars, Freedom 
dollars, it's Canadian. 

1422
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,040
And then Pokémon Stadium 2 is 
probably closer to like the 

1423
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,640
hundred $110 range. 
So. 

1424
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,280
It's yeah, it's, it's a bit more
expensive. 

1425
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,040
You might be able, you might be 
able to find it cheaper. 

1426
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,440
But yeah, that that was kind of 
what I what I saw when I was 

1427
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:26,120
looking it up a while back. 
Absolutely. 

1428
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,960
No. 
Yeah, I, I agree with both you 

1429
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,040
guys. 
I think it is very much a 

1430
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,080
product of its time, like a lot 
of Gen. 1 stuff I've gone back 

1431
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,920
and experienced lately. 
I think if you weren't alive for

1432
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,080
that, that time period, I can 
see how if you're like a younger

1433
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,320
20 something and you're like 
going back, check out retro 

1434
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,480
games, how you could see that, 
yeah, these games aren't really 

1435
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:50,920
that great if you can't play 
them on the hardware or in the 

1436
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,880
time period that they happened. 
It just seems like such a large 

1437
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,480
investment to like be like, hey,
if you really want the better 

1438
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:02,480
experience of this, get an N64, 
get a cart, get a transfer pack 

1439
01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:05,200
and get a Game Boy game. 
I don't know how many people 

1440
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,000
outside of collectors are 
actually going to go for that 

1441
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,400
sort of thing, but I do feel 
like with, and this is something

1442
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,040
I've experienced with a lot of 
N64 games, a lot of the N64 

1443
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,320
experiences play better on their
native hardware. 

1444
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:24,200
I feel like I played Mario 64 on
the 3D All Stars collection and 

1445
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,600
on the N64 and the N64 
experience is just such a better

1446
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,200
experience on the actual 
hardware. 

1447
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,560
Same, same thing with Ocarina. 
I've got a chance to play over 

1448
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,840
to Ocarina and I just feel like 
there's no comparison between 

1449
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,360
playing that on modern hardware 
and playing. 

1450
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:42,080
So a lot of the N64 experiences 
are designed very well 

1451
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,800
specifically for the N64. 
And I feel like this is this 

1452
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,800
falls in that category. 
It's better if you're in that 

1453
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,520
time period with that hardware. 
But now, yeah, it's it's kind of

1454
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,400
rough if you don't have that. 
Yeah, that's a good point that 

1455
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,320
there's a lot of reason why 
this, I mean, the 64 has been 

1456
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,480
notorious for being pretty rough
and emulation like just if 

1457
01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:05,520
you're not switch online. 
So that definitely rings true. 

1458
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,320
I looked. 
Up even if you are switch 

1459
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:08,200
online. 
Even if. 

1460
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,600
Yeah, yeah. 
So yeah, it's Goldeneyes. 

1461
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,840
Not great. 
Switch online. 

1462
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,200
No, it at the time, I remember 
when we did our episode on it 

1463
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,960
was right when those came out, 
those re releases came out. 

1464
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,880
You're using dual sticks or 
you're sort of using dual sticks

1465
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,200
on Xbox. 
It was actually OK. 

1466
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,440
It was actually OK on Game Pass.
OK, yeah, it was actually all 

1467
01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:31,640
right, except the time I think I
just didn't have the Switch on 

1468
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,400
me or something like that. 
I played on it was it was good. 

1469
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:36,320
I played all the way through it.
It feels different, looks 

1470
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,520
different, but playing it with 
the joystick, playing with the 

1471
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,720
64 just yeah, it's the way to 
go. 

1472
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,640
OK, before we get out of here, I
just wanted to double check. 

1473
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,360
I was checking what the prices 
are here, OK? 

1474
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,520
So if you want to get at least 
the prices that show up for me, 

1475
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,720
140 for two for just the 
cartridge of Stadium 2, which is

1476
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,920
just like you said, GE 150, 
something like that. 

1477
01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:02,800
And one is around the $50 range 
it looks like without anyone's 

1478
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,800
name written on it too, which is
nice. 

1479
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,160
Like an added. 
It's almost like an added. 

1480
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,320
Legendary A legendary. 
Picture. 

1481
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:09,720
They would use that as the 
picture. 

1482
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,600
Yeah, that's true. 
But but, and I've done this a 

1483
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,480
couple times of a couple of 
Japanese games that don't really

1484
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:17,800
require you to read anything. 
Maybe with this game. 

1485
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,880
But this game is all about 
reading stuff. 

1486
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,560
But you don't know any of the 
moves otherwise. 

1487
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,440
But well, you could play around 
a little bit, but if you want 

1488
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:32,000
all three, if you want all three
Japanese versions of Pokémon 

1489
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:39,440
stadium ish stadium like it's 
it's around 100 to 120, at least

1490
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,400
in Canadian dollars, So around 
100 bucks US for all three. 

1491
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,200
This particular listing that I'm
looking up, these two listings 

1492
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,640
I'm looking up also have the 
box. 

1493
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,640
So easy. 
Interesting. 

1494
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,880
Yep. 
And you can get the little sort 

1495
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,560
of like, I think they just work 
on your hardware, right? 

1496
01:13:55,560 --> 01:14:01,160
So and a lot of the art on the 
Japanese games are pretty sweet,

1497
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,000
like if you'd like a nice 
looking box. 

1498
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,720
Usually better, yeah. 
I have the Mario G1 behind me 

1499
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,920
where it's just like basically 
the shadow of Mario golfing. 

1500
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,520
And like that's the, that's the 
thing. 

1501
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,400
Like I love that it's so simple.
It's got the different form 

1502
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,720
factor too. 
It looks like, you know, like 

1503
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,160
more modern games, more vertical
style. 

1504
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:26,360
So anyways, that's that. 
So check it out if you can. 

1505
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,720
But like like you guys said, 
it's an investment. 

1506
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,360
It's an investment. 
So it's it's looks. 

1507
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,560
Like transfer packs are only 10 
to $12.00 on eBay, so transfer 

1508
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,360
packs aren't too bad. 
That's pretty good. 

1509
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:37,800
That's surprising. 
Surprising. 

1510
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,280
Not like the the expansion 
packs, which are like fucking 

1511
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,720
like 80 bucks and shit like 
that's crazy. 

1512
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:44,680
They're so I did. 
Not know that. 

1513
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,480
Yeah, they're so expensive. 
I think they were old. 

1514
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:50,960
They were limited, pretty 
limited in in their availability

1515
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,280
and stuff. 
So, and at first only with 

1516
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:58,840
Donkey Kong I, I believe at the 
time, at first, at the very 

1517
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,760
initial release anyway. 
OK Eric, before we get out of 

1518
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,800
here one more time, where can 
everybody find unlockables? 

1519
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,280
And at least as of this 
recording, we know what's up 

1520
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,280
next. 
Or are we going back to Kingdom 

1521
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,080
Hearts 1? 
No, no, as of this recording, 

1522
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,520
we're going to be done with I 
think Kingdom Hearts and Square 

1523
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,200
Enix for for a while. 
I need AI, need a little bit of 

1524
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,520
a break. 
I need to make it go back to 

1525
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,400
some regular, regular gaming 
things I don't really have a 

1526
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,400
plan for, for what's next. 
Past that, I'm going to be 

1527
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,560
taking a little bit of a break 
while I like maybe script some 

1528
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,000
stuff or figure out some 
episodes. 

1529
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,680
So yeah, more news on that in 
the future. 

1530
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,160
I am doing some other things. 
I've been posting some more like

1531
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,560
short form content and chopped 
up videos. 

1532
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,440
Just some other things of some 
random stuff I've been talking 

1533
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:48,960
about trying my hand it other 
social media things. 

1534
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,960
If you want to follow any of 
those endeavors, all the stuff 

1535
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,480
can be found on my link tree 
linktr dot EE forward slash 

1536
01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:58,440
unlockables podcast. 
That's my Instagram. 

1537
01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:00,920
That's my Discord server if you 
want to hop in there. 

1538
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,880
I will admit my Discord servers 
more dead than most people's. 

1539
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,480
I mostly just use it for like 
announcements related to my show

1540
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,960
and then I am in any number of 
other discord servers inside of 

1541
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,720
our little podcasting community 
here. 

1542
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,080
Superpod Saga is one that comes 
to mind for sure. 

1543
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,640
I'm I'm in there. 
But yeah, the link tree has all 

1544
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,640
that stuff. 
Instagram. 

1545
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,960
I'm not on Twitter anymore, 
thank God. 

1546
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,960
And my mental health, yeah, my 
mental health is much better for

1547
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,880
that. 
So I believe absolutely you are 

1548
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,720
God bless you, Sir. 
You are a brave man. 

1549
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,000
I think the My Blue Sky link has
replaced my Twitter link. 

1550
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,640
And then yes, it's got the pod 
catchers wherever the show can 

1551
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,120
be found. 
Like there's mostly Kingdom 

1552
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,080
Hearts stuff on there. 
Like there's 29 episodes of 

1553
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:48,760
Kingdom Hearts. 
But I have talked about other 

1554
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,080
stuff before. 
I've written short little 

1555
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,000
essays. 
I did an essay on Suikoden 2. 

1556
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:57,120
I did an essay on the importance
to Advance Wars for Nintendo. 

1557
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,520
So just I I talk about stuff 
that I like. 

1558
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,520
I have some interviews with 
content creators on there. 

1559
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,800
So they're bound to be something
that kind of tickles your fancy 

1560
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,040
on there. 
But be warned, it is mostly 

1561
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,720
Nomura bullshit that you will 
get on my show. 

1562
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,520
So if you like to get a little 
weird and then you you F with 

1563
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,680
that. 
Come on, come on down. 

1564
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,120
I'll I'll talk your ear off 
Great Kingdom Hearts guiding 

1565
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,000
keys playlist, 47 hours long, 
great for a road trip. 

1566
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,200
Great Rd. tripping if you can 
tolerate that. 

1567
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,880
So, but yeah, no, before before 
I pass back over to you guys, I 

1568
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,080
just want to say thank you guys 
both so much for having me. 

1569
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,080
I remember 64 like this is one 
of my favorite shows. 

1570
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,880
This should have happened way 
way sooner. 

1571
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,280
Dang baby being born for taking 
away podcast time but man. 

1572
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,240
Yeah, yeah, because. 
Like Dave is the. 

1573
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:48,320
Same exact 667 months. 
Seven months without, yeah, 

1574
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:49,840
turning my mic on at all. 
So. 

1575
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,000
Definitely, definitely have to 
do this again. 

1576
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,000
I'll have to look for an excuse 
for something. 

1577
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,640
I can get you guys over on 
unlockables. 

1578
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:56,800
We can talk about something for 
sure. 

1579
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,080
Yeah, man. 
Yeah, let's do it, Yes. 

1580
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,640
Let's do it more games, 
obviously tons of games here 

1581
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,200
too, so we'll have you back. 
That is going to happen. 

1582
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,880
Whether people like it or not, 
it's going to happen. 

1583
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,840
Whether I like it or not. 
Whether you like it or not, 

1584
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,920
Erica is going to Whether I like
it or not, it's happening. 

1585
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,880
Jake, you want to show to my 
house and threaten me so. 

1586
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,160
Yeah, all I have to, all I have 
to do is look for your the, the 

1587
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,280
poker balls that are behind you.
I'll know exactly which house it

1588
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,680
is. 
Peering through windows in your 

1589
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,000
neighborhood. 
Like which one is it? 

1590
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,720
Be careful. 
It's unincorporated Indiana, so 

1591
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,880
I'm not sure. 
I'm strapped, OK, here in Canada

1592
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,520
I don't really have to worry 
about that so much so. 

1593
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,680
Yeah, it can be dangerous 
looking into houses here I. 

1594
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,400
Just don't worry about anything 
in Canada it sounds. 

1595
01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:39,920
Like, I'm pretty good. 
Yeah, I'm all right. 

1596
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,800
Yeah. 
Unless, unless you guys have 

1597
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,360
something to do with it, I have 
nothing to worry about. 

1598
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,320
So. 
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. 

1599
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,600
We'll fuck it up somehow. 
Some of these in. 

1600
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,800
Advance some way, somehow, some 
way, somehow, Jiggy, you are 

1601
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,000
kicking ass and taking names 
with some new stuff going on. 

1602
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,920
What's what's happening? 
Yeah, well, we just finished 

1603
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,600
Dinosaur Planet, the N64 
prototype of Starbucks 

1604
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,520
Adventures, on live stream, and 
that was pretty fun. 

1605
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,760
And now I'm going to do a full 
video on that one. 

1606
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,280
So that's going to be fun. 
Just talking about my experience

1607
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,880
with the whole like, Dynamod 
enhanced version. 

1608
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,920
And I learned from the community
and like just just going over 

1609
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,120
it, you know, and I got a few 
other things cooking. 

1610
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:27,720
I got a, a fancy new controller 
for my switch that I will be 

1611
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,040
reviewing a company sent out to 
me. 

1612
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,400
I love the RGB on it. 
That's just my first take. 

1613
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,240
I I've had it for about. 
That's crazy, it looks so cool. 

1614
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,040
I know, right? 
I've had it for about two hours 

1615
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,120
and that's that's all I've taken
from that so far. 

1616
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:42,680
I just really like just. 
Staring at it like. 

1617
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,040
Yeah, I'm just like, wow, this 
is really like really good 

1618
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,920
looking. 
Yeah, you know, just grinding. 

1619
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,680
Otherwise playing some N64 games
here and there. 

1620
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,680
Yeah, man, of course. 
I have a billion games and I go 

1621
01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:00,000
back to the N64 every day. 
I know this I. 

1622
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,320
Just I just got to subscribe, so
I'll look forward to that video.

1623
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,000
Cool there. 
You go real real time people, 

1624
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,280
you guys do it too. 
Find unlockables, find you can 

1625
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:12,640
look back on YouTube as well. 
You can find us on YouTube. 

1626
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,520
I'm going to start doing a 
little bit more streaming every 

1627
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,640
once in a while. 
As long as the kid is falling 

1628
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,720
asleep when he's supposed to, 
not trying to climb out of his 

1629
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,120
crib like he's not supposed to. 
I'm Oh my. 

1630
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,880
Gosh, you know what you need to 
have? 

1631
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,360
You need to have a like a baby 
Cam where it just shows him like

1632
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,640
in the thing and like every once
in a while you just like or like

1633
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,680
it's, I don't know, it's like a 
challenge or something. 

1634
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,440
Like see how long we can go 
without waking the baby or how 

1635
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:41,440
intense something gets. 
I have, I have the iPad 

1636
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,680
literally sitting right beside 
me because it's it's my, my turn

1637
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,000
or my time to watch him at the 
moment. 

1638
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,280
This evening he's been pretty, 
He hasn't really moved this 

1639
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:49,440
tonight. 
He's been pretty good. 

1640
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:52,000
He was a hassle to put down. 
He was, he's teething. 

1641
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,760
It's it's tricky. 
It would be a challenge if it 

1642
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,960
was later in the evening, if it 
was close to midnight when he 

1643
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,760
tends to fuss a little bit, 
yeah, I don't know if there'd be

1644
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,120
a whole lot of gaming happening,
so I got to do it slightly 

1645
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,880
earlier in the night, so. 
So when you stream, you just do 

1646
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,320
face your face gaming underneath
that baby Cam. 

1647
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,680
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
If if the wife approves, I'll do

1648
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:15,000
it. 
Yeah. 

1649
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:19,880
Every time he moves, I got to 
run, you know? 

1650
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,080
Yeah. 
So I'm trying to stream maybe 

1651
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:24,560
once a week, once every couple 
weeks. 

1652
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,720
I'm just trying to figure out 
some of the technical kinks that

1653
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,680
really I haven't had time to 
kind of work through and at 

1654
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,680
least a year from now, a year 
ago, it was the last time pretty

1655
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,320
much did it. 
I'll play some games that we're 

1656
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,000
going to be playing up coming on
the show. 

1657
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,440
As of this recording or as of 
the release of this episode, you

1658
01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:47,960
may or may not have Paperboy on 
your podcast app as well. 

1659
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,520
I'm going to be trying to stream
that if I haven't by the time 

1660
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,640
you hear this. 
You can also watch the VOD if 

1661
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,560
it's already done, but I'm going
to try and do things like that. 

1662
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,480
Try and play some new games that
are on my backlog, things like 

1663
01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:00,680
that. 
And every once in a while, so 

1664
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,440
that's can be found on YouTube, 
I'm going to try and Co stream 

1665
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:06,000
on Twitch. 
I don't know if I can do that or

1666
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,320
not. 
I'm going to just try and get as

1667
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,120
many eyeballs on things as I 
can. 

1668
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,440
I'm being very ambitious. 
Often when I do that, things 

1669
01:22:12,440 --> 01:22:13,920
crumble around me, but I'm going
to try. 

1670
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,840
So remember 64 Show is where you
can find everything. 

1671
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,840
Remember Dash 64 on YouTube and 
support the show. 

1672
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,280
Patreon.com/remember 64 show as 
well. 

1673
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,080
Just for a buck a month. 
You can get stuff early, you can

1674
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,520
get pre show chats which we had 
for this episode as well. 

1675
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,480
And you can help us pick an 
upcoming game. 

1676
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:37,920
I have polls up there now to 
anyone that is a patron that can

1677
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,920
help me decide to play, help me 
play, decide which game to play 

1678
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,760
and review that is not from the 
N64 and on my backlog. 

1679
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,440
And I'll have a sort of a short 
video of that and have some of 

1680
01:22:48,440 --> 01:22:51,640
my game play and stuff. 
So lots of ideas happening. 

1681
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:56,840
I'm going to try and make them 
as as possible as possible. 

1682
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,440
I'm just gonna try and make them
happen. 

1683
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,040
I'm gonna do my best this. 
Is very Willy Wonka of you. 

1684
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,080
Yeah, I'm very Willy Wonka. 
Yeah. 

1685
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:07,120
And you know what? 
You gotta drop a like and rate 

1686
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,960
the podcast. 
Indeed. 

1687
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,600
As you just have to do that, 
just do it. 

1688
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,240
Just do it. 
All the other stuff I said, you 

1689
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,920
can do it if you want. 
But the thing Jiggy said, which 

1690
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,920
is of course, as always, things,
the very easy stuff that I 

1691
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,600
forget to say at the top of the 
show, I say now. 

1692
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,040
And that's what I want everybody
to do. 

1693
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,280
Same thing for the unlockables, 
same thing for Jiggy's YouTube 

1694
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,400
channel as well. 
All right, everybody, thank you 

1695
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,280
very much. 
Go play some Pokémon and we'll 

1696
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:36,960
talk to you soon. 
I choose you. 

1697
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:40,360
Thank you. 
I appreciate that. 

1698
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,160
I, I guess I choose you. 
I don't know. 

1699
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:45,720
You're you're kind of cool, I 
guess.

