1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:07,800 The only one for me is you happy go? 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,300 Lucky world of Nintendo. Nintendo 64. 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,500 Welcome. To remember 64. 4 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:20,400 Where this week, a new Challenger is approaching. 5 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:43,300 Welcome back to the show everyone. 6 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:45,100 My name is David Petraeus. Hello. 7 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,600 I'll be your host for this adventure. 8 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,500 As I collect play study and discuss the classic console with 9 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:54,500 you and fellow nerdy guest. This is the show you'll get a 10 00:00:54,508 --> 00:00:58,400 short history and fun discussion about Nintendo 64 games every 11 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,000 two weeks, Just a small bit of housekeeping. 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,300 Off the top, I want to let everybody know that I've 13 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:07,900 launched a patreon page. 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Question of the day. 43 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:42,800 Of course, this one will be focused around Super Smash. 44 00:02:42,900 --> 00:02:45,500 You're going to hear after the discussion about the game, your 45 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:48,900 answers for your go to Super Smash Brothers, fighters to stay 46 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:51,600 tuned for that. Okay, let's head back to the 47 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,400 show and bust out the history books. 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,800 Everyone. It's time to go back to April 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,200 1999. On the 11th Shakespeare in Love 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,000 wins best film at the 99, baftas for sports, and hockey fans out 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,700 there on April 18th. Wayne Gretzky, played his final 52 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:14,200 NHL game and I've been told currently this is an artist that 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,800 all the kids are listening to these days. 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,800 But on April 9th, 99 little Nas X was born. 55 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,200 I couldn't tell you who that is, but apparently, they're popular. 56 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:30,700 Damn, I'm old and of course April 26 1999 in North America. 57 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:34,500 Super Smash Brothers was released for the Nintendo 64. 58 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:43,000 Goku young. But how did this wild mash-up 59 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,900 Style game? Come to be, excused the 60 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:49,900 pronunciation on some of these names but in 1997 and 98, 61 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:53,600 Kirby's, original Creator. Masahiro Sakurai could not 62 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,300 figure out why games like Mortal Kombat were still so popular. 63 00:03:57,700 --> 00:04:00,600 After all, they were so violent and there were so many of them 64 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,800 on the current in tendo Hardware alone that it was flooding, the 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,300 fighting genre Market. He said he was always a fighting 66 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:10,600 game fan but he was looking for something new and Fresh 67 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:14,100 originally the development team was working on what was called, 68 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,399 Dragon King, but fairly late in that Dev cycle sucker, I thought 69 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,000 he'd pitch the idea of making the fighters Nintendo 70 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 characters. I mean, why not? 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,900 He thought we have such a powerful brand already, let's 72 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:28,800 utilize it but convincing the big end to make the move like 73 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,400 that could actually prove to be a pretty tough one. 74 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,500 Understandably. So without their knowledge, the 75 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:38,600 developers put in the characters before they even showed any demo 76 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,400 footage at all to the guys upstairs for approval featured, 77 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,400 right off the top in this demo were Mario Donkey Kong Samus and 78 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,400 fox McCloud. What's their surprise? 79 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,200 And probably too many others now that you hearing this, the game 80 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,800 was well received. It was given a big but also 81 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,200 cautious, thumbs up, the devs were now having to work within a 82 00:04:59,207 --> 00:05:02,000 smaller budget than others, compared to games that were 83 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,900 currently under development such as the next Legend of Zelda 84 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:09,400 game, Super Smash launched with a decent selection of Fighters. 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:15,900 Mario, Luigi Kirby Donkey Kong, Samus Fox Pikachu link, Ness 86 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,600 Jigglypuff, Captain Falcon. And, of course, Yoshi some of 87 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,700 which needed to be unlocked while playing through the single 88 00:05:22,700 --> 00:05:24,300 player mode. And there were a number of 89 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:28,700 characters who almost made the cut such as King Dedede from the 90 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,800 Kirby series and Mewtwo. And as some of you might already 91 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,100 know, both have appeared in future, iterations of the game. 92 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Despite the aforementioned smaller budget Super Smash 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,900 Brothers, ended up being one of the Nintendo 64's, a 94 00:05:42,907 --> 00:05:47,100 best-selling games, it's sold just over five point, five 95 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:49,700 million copies worldwide during its lifetime. 96 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:53,700 Good for fifth place, in the console's, best selling list. 97 00:05:54,700 --> 00:05:56,900 All right, in ten donors. Let's put the text books away. 98 00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:59,900 It's time to chat about playing the game and our memories of it. 99 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:17,300 It's not bad. Now, it is time to talk about 100 00:06:17,300 --> 00:06:20,700 the game itself. Experience with play, Nets are 101 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:24,700 memory, The Nostalgia, everything about Super Smash 102 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:28,600 Brothers, the first game in the series, and I'm so happy that I 103 00:06:28,608 --> 00:06:31,600 get to tie in my other podcast back in my day. 104 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,400 One of my other illustrious hosts that have been on the show 105 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,200 for the last few years. Mr. Ian Walter thank you for 106 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,500 joining me. Hey, no problem. 107 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,600 Any excuse to talk games from back in my day? 108 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:46,800 Exactly. Like we've said, in back in my 109 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,100 day, we're always Gaiman and this is just means an excuse to 110 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:51,300 talk about that. Exactly. 111 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:54,700 So we are focusing on the Nintendo 64 version. 112 00:06:54,700 --> 00:06:59,600 The inaugural, Super Smash Brothers from April of 1999, 113 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,900 just before we hit record, we realized Wow, this came out two 114 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:08,900 and a half years after this console was, you know, I guess 115 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:11,900 out on store shelves. I felt like we've been playing 116 00:07:11,900 --> 00:07:14,900 this game forever. All right, so it's kind of 117 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:16,700 strange that it was a little bit into it. 118 00:07:16,707 --> 00:07:19,600 It felt like it was one of those really early games but that's 119 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,800 what halfway through the life cycle the console which is, 120 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,000 which is kind of surprising. So I just want to jump off 121 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,800 before we get into the game itself because you're I wouldn't 122 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,300 call yourself a new guest by any means because we're co-host 123 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:35,000 another Gasps. But let's first down remember 124 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,600 65. Exactly. 125 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,100 First time I remember 64 but we've talked about the N64 126 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:45,000 dozens of times really. At this point, we have had games 127 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,700 in our, in our discussion of our favorite 90s games of all time 128 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,300 alot of N64 discussion. And that's what is your feeling, 129 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:57,300 your Nostalgia, your thought, your experience with a Nintendo 130 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:59,300 64 before we get into the game itself. 131 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:04,500 Sure, 64 Or we've talked a lot about some of our favorite games 132 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:08,300 on back of my day, you know GoldenEye 007 would have been 133 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,700 one of the biggest ones for me but also just you know, all the 134 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:15,700 Mario do the Mario library is spectacular and I would include 135 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:18,400 Super Smash Bros as part of the Mario library because yeah, 136 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,300 sure. No, it's rooted in all those 137 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:23,900 this characters that we love. But yeah, just N64. 138 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:28,900 It really elevated gaming from just like, oh cool. 139 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:31,600 Like I don't know. Like I enjoyed playing NES. 140 00:08:31,700 --> 00:08:34,100 Spraying us, but and Sega Genesis. 141 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,799 But this kind of is, I probably were the obsession. 142 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Maybe I was already obsessed with Sega Genesis, not gonna 143 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,400 lie, but this is kind of where, like, it really got real, 144 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,600 especially when you consider couch Co-op coming into it for 145 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,300 controllers, having friends over on a weekend renting games and 146 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:53,900 really taking advantage of the multiplayer. 147 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:57,600 So like gaming was always fun play one or two players with the 148 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,500 older systems now you can play for and I think N64 what it did. 149 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,300 Best was leaned into. Yeah, we have great solo titles 150 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:08,100 like, you know, Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. 151 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:12,100 It's a classic but we also have a lot of titles that can be 152 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:14,700 enjoyed by four people on a shared screen. 153 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:18,700 And what Super Smash Bros did the best out of all those games 154 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:22,000 for me, was it wasn't just a split screen experience. 155 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,800 It was it was a true shared screen experience where you're 156 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,100 all four characters jumping around on one map which is? 157 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:31,000 Yeah, I think that's, that's exactly what about the mention 158 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,100 to. It's like Not like, you know, 159 00:09:33,100 --> 00:09:36,700 someone went on the far side of one of the levels, like the 160 00:09:36,700 --> 00:09:39,900 Hyrule level like the Zelda levels one of the largest I 161 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:42,700 feels like it is anyway because you kind of have your on the 162 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:44,000 rooftop. So you kind of move from one 163 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,200 side to the other but the camera just zoomed out and sure you 164 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,100 know maybe it was a little too far based on like what size TV 165 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:53,100 you had or whatever at the time or especially. 166 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:56,500 Now if you hook up the console to a 50-inch TV, which I did, 167 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:58,800 which was a complete mistake because it was so blurry. 168 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,000 So I had to fix that but it's it's Actually kind of 169 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,700 mind-blowing that they were able to pull that off. 170 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:08,200 So seamlessly there's no I haven't experienced any slowdown 171 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,500 since I picked up the game over the last couple weeks and played 172 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:14,200 it like it's just it works really smoothly and I think 173 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:19,500 exactly what you said the N64 in general was so key to 174 00:10:19,500 --> 00:10:24,700 multiplayer coach competitive or couch Co-op that like, it feels 175 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:27,600 like, yeah, there's Mario party which I will get to, we will get 176 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,800 to those games eventually. But super smash to me is like 177 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,100 the for Player game. Yeah, that's what always stood 178 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:35,800 out as the four player experience. 179 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,100 So what's what's some of the, the key standouts for you that 180 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:41,400 you remember from playing this game? 181 00:10:41,700 --> 00:10:43,300 Well, you mentioned the Hyrule level. 182 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:45,400 I really like the design of that, but maybe I'm biased 183 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,000 because I really like Legend of Zelda titles but just think it's 184 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,800 funny. You say when it started to zoom 185 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,600 out that just give you an excuse to go hunt down that fool that 186 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,500 went out on his own. On the other side. 187 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:58,800 I'm happy, just gotta, you gotta play the game, you know anything 188 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,300 by my almost constant Kirby. Pic of floating around to make 189 00:11:03,300 --> 00:11:05,200 sure I don't get that last hit and get knocked out. 190 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,400 That that was probably me. That's probably me doing that. 191 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,400 Yeah and where I know like you know I'll mention that our other 192 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,700 host of back in my day loves Link and he's definitely a great 193 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:19,100 playable character it. The Legend of Zelda Timeline 194 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:23,800 starts to pay off more for me in the Super Smash Bros melee title 195 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,100 for GameCube, but for me it was more. 196 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:31,200 So, you know, I think all of the characters are memorable, there 197 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,700 were about Twelve, a dozen after the unlocks, if I get. 198 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:39,400 So there's 12 in total. Yeah, which stream is like 199 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,900 pretty small when you think about Smash Bros today because 200 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:45,500 it's just, it's become this other monster. 201 00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:51,300 But even those 12, they all had their own unique style and just 202 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:53,700 everyone had a fun. I remember playing a lot of 203 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:58,000 Pikachu, but but for me, I don't know. 204 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,500 He seems like the most simple and basic character. 205 00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:04,100 My favorite is Louis. EEG always first and foremost 206 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,000 Luigi I don't know about you, but I had a lot of had a blast 207 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,300 playing. I do a lot of people love 208 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:13,100 playing with Mario for me, there was something subtle about Luigi 209 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:16,300 and he had this really cool kill strike move that was hard to 210 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:17,600 pull off that I was. Yeah. 211 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,800 So so what's so to me they there is there are differences but 212 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,700 they're not just mirror characters for sure. 213 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:30,200 But what so, what's that move? And what about Luigi is not 214 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,600 necessarily better but you To be the enjoyment, likewise the 215 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Ouija, the extra enjoyment over over Mario, for example. 216 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:41,800 So in a game where characters are largely rooted in the styles 217 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,800 are they're all coming from recognizable, franchises within 218 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,500 throughout Nintendo and now even other like Sega properties. 219 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:52,500 That Nintendo is required. It's really become an expansive 220 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,200 expanded universe. But yeah, and these original 12, 221 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,800 they're all very memorable Nintendo characters. 222 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,600 And for me, it all started I mentioned On my debut, episode 223 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,100 of back in my day, it all started with Super Mario 224 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:07,500 Brothers and my favorite game of all time. 225 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:11,500 Super Mario, Brothers 3. Yeah, if if there was ever any 226 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:14,400 kind of decision to be made on, who wants to be my own who has 227 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,200 to be Luigi? I didn't care if you want to be 228 00:13:16,208 --> 00:13:18,000 Mario. I was happy to be Luigi. 229 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,500 I always thought he was a funny character and especially when 230 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:22,900 you get into the like you said they're not. 231 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:26,000 They are at the core maybe mirrors of each other. 232 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,100 They're Brothers, they're both plumbers, but Super Mario. 233 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:33,900 Brothers 2, they Explore those four, playable character acts 234 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:37,800 mates and Luigi. You know, it was always fun to 235 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,700 be Princess Peach because you can fly around the map float 236 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:43,700 around you know but she was Opie, come on, yeah, she was 237 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:48,100 okay but for me there is some sort of added pleasure in just 238 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:51,500 choosing Luigi and having that kind of long elongated jump, 239 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:55,000 that kind of required a little finesse and that's kind of how 240 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,000 we use for me and smash to he's not, he's not opt by any means, 241 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,400 he's tough to play, I don't remember. 242 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,600 The pin missile move was from 64 or acquired later in GameCube 243 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,400 Smash Bros melee. But the uppercut move that he 244 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,200 has started in N64, Smash and I loved it because you had to 245 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,500 build up some hits on your opponent. 246 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:22,800 Like you had to get them to be maybe around 100, or over some 247 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,100 damage. But once you did and you landed 248 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:29,000 one of those, it was just a kill, instant kill shot, which 249 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:33,600 always blew my mind. So I always To use Luigi to get 250 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,400 to weaken my opponent and get them out of there. 251 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:37,800 Somehow. It's funnier that he's the one 252 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,200 that has that move, right? Because it's like instant kill 253 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,600 somehow. Luigi the Forgotten goofy tall 254 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,900 brother that floats through the air and Super Mario. 255 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:50,300 Brothers 2 is the one that can just like uppercut, you like 256 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:52,600 he's in Mortal Kombat and fly you off the level. 257 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,700 Like, there's something this is what just happened. 258 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,000 It's like what and you hear that pinky. 259 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,900 Like that sound, that comes in when he hit up that is just 260 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,800 like, oh, Oh. Oh, I'm dead. 261 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,000 Oh, I'm gone. And I would never tire from 262 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,400 those reactions from newer players. 263 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,100 Just be like, what the hell just happened? 264 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:12,900 So, yeah, I love Luigi. But yeah, why would a lot of the 265 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:16,100 characters were great? But yeah, for sure, I so sad 266 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:19,000 when I, when I put this back in in the console because I've been 267 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,800 slowly collecting some of the titles. 268 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,600 It's going to take some time for sure but this was one of the 269 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,600 ones that I found. I found for a decent price. 270 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,300 I was like, okay it's Super Smash Bros. 271 00:15:29,300 --> 00:15:30,800 I'm gonna gonna pick up this game. 272 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,500 I'm going to play it. And I've only I've only dabbled 273 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:37,300 with with two player over the last couple of weeks and I play 274 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:39,500 in it. So not the full four player 275 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:42,200 experience. But I've picked up my trusty 276 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,700 Kirby first because he was always my favorite. 277 00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:48,600 He still is one of the favorites, but I do always kind 278 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,900 of go to him first, because he's not super hard to control. 279 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:53,500 I think that's part of the one of the reasons why I probably 280 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:57,200 gravitated to him at first. I think it's a little Opie 281 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,900 myself. I think you can just kind, I 282 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:02,200 think you kind of fly around and you can fly around And even his 283 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,800 down be move or he just turns into the rock or version of that 284 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,800 gonna get hurt. It's so good. 285 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 I've always really liked his up be move, or he has like this 286 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,900 blue sword thing and he kind of does like a flip and every, like 287 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,800 all of that stuff, is it just cool. 288 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,600 And to me, it feels like Kirby has these extra powers that he 289 00:16:19,608 --> 00:16:23,900 doesn't have it as normal games. But then I started playing other 290 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:27,000 characters and I'm like, Donkey Kong just doesn't work for me as 291 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,500 much as he used to, but Samus still is really Strong to me. 292 00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:38,100 And I think she's still a really good character and I think 293 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:42,100 sammis might be pushing Kirby out as my favorite at least in 294 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:45,900 this iteration of the game because that up be move or she 295 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:48,500 spins and just bottles you up and spits. 296 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:52,500 You out is really effective and really, really good in her. 297 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:55,900 Her grab she kind of like reaches out and grabs you and 298 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:58,500 you can just throw you behind you like those, those kind of 299 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:02,900 moves, feel advanced. This time I don't know what it 300 00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:05,200 is but it feels like that's a move that would have been 301 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,599 introduced for some reason and GameCube. 302 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:09,200 I don't know why. I don't know why I feel that 303 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,900 way. But those those are those are 304 00:17:11,908 --> 00:17:14,800 the two characters I think that I gravitate towards the most 305 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,200 still is Curtis. She's pretty cool and GameCube 306 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,000 to I remember playing this her in melee, a lot more than than 307 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,400 this version and as someone that I never really played much 308 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:27,900 Captain. Falcon is a Stephen Captain. 309 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:31,500 Falcon Captain Falcon is a cool character. 310 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,400 And I only mention him because like I didn't plan on the N64 311 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,400 version. But as we expand it out and got 312 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,100 more characters in Super Smash Bros, you get a lot of these I 313 00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:46,000 guess clones or variations of characters and yeah, I favorite 314 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,200 character of all time well maybe next to Luigi because I just 315 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,800 yeah, explain my love for him but my favorite newer character 316 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,500 I guess is Ginn Gannon. Right. 317 00:17:56,500 --> 00:17:57,900 So give me. Yeah, I get it. 318 00:17:57,900 --> 00:18:01,200 Okay, Ganondorf, being a boss character. 319 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,500 I also Bowser. I think that's very cool. 320 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,400 And you know, I like Bowser so I like those heavyset characters 321 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,000 and Ganon was cool because he was a take on Captain Falcon, 322 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,700 but he was a heavy. So he would do like the falcon 323 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:17,200 punch and he would do these like slide kicks and like just 324 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,100 everything about like again, I think I like Gannon, the same 325 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,600 way. I like Luigi because you would 326 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,000 wind up and, you know, you'd have to really time it because 327 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,500 you're vulnerable while you're winding up there, but if you 328 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:31,900 landed that hit is game over. Yeah. 329 00:18:31,900 --> 00:18:33,000 You know what? I never thought of that. 330 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,400 You're right. He is a heavy version of Captain 331 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,100 Falcon. I never thought of that. 332 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,900 That is exactly. He's got the slide, he's got the 333 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:42,900 wind up. Even his upbeat jump. 334 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,400 He grabs. The guy in midair and 335 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,700 comprehensive off. Yeah. 336 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:47,100 Well, that's exactly. Yeah. 337 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:53,400 He's the him and and the Ouija are really effective in Ultimate 338 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,000 as well. Like once I got one time. 339 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,100 Yeah, yeah. They're they're good. 340 00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:59,600 They're good combo. For sure, I think you mentioned 341 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,000 Kirby's like Drop. Down. 342 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Be I thought of Bowser I think does the bum drop as well right? 343 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,800 He does. He does it where he sort of 344 00:19:07,808 --> 00:19:11,500 scoots over a couple feet and then does it and then his up. 345 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:14,000 And then his up, be is very similar to Donkey Kong's redoes 346 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,100 a spin, right? And Stannis is what they do a 347 00:19:16,108 --> 00:19:17,700 spin and they sort of catch you and everything. 348 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:22,900 So yeah, any any it's fun with with the Multiplayer? 349 00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:26,300 Any like epic stories that you can remember, from like only 350 00:19:26,300 --> 00:19:29,400 played this epic round and I just sort of it's hard to 351 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,800 remember because it's probably just honestly hundreds of Them. 352 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:35,800 Yeah I remember messing with the settings of it like I was never 353 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,500 really big on the items but I did like things like the 354 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:44,900 lightsaber and there was one time where I just I became very 355 00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:48,000 obsessed with just taking the Pokemon level and then adding 356 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,700 like only Pokeballs and like, as much as I could and just like 357 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 having a Pokemon Mayhem and then you play as Pikachu and 358 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,800 Jigglypuff, and you're just, it's Pokemon everywhere, it's 359 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,300 Bonanza. It's just, it's like the 360 00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:03,700 greatest Fight you could possibly handsome and then and 361 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:05,100 then, you know, fast-forward to game. 362 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,200 I think it was GameCube Smash Bros melee had the Pokemon 363 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,300 Stadium level which I loves as well. 364 00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:13,000 You know, and they've done so duration, strong Pokemon through 365 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,800 lines for these games as well. I think actually, when I 366 00:20:15,808 --> 00:20:18,600 Charizard was a playable character Charizard eventually 367 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,600 was to and and ultimate you can be a Pokémon trainer so you can 368 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,100 have Squirtle and all that stuff to my I think actually, my 369 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:29,200 favorite item that I've been messing around with and I do 370 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,800 think even back then. It was too. 371 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:33,100 Welcome. The Pokeball was probably the 372 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:36,900 best item like as much as it was a randomized, it was on it. 373 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:40,700 You get out of it but it just felt like it had such impact you 374 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:44,300 know, felt like you could get. What did I get earlier today? 375 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:46,900 It was Onyx. That's what it was on excute. 376 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,900 And all of a sudden these rocks just start falling from the sky 377 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:54,600 and I had it at the level where you face, all the polygons 378 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,000 versions. So they all have like, you know, 379 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,000 very low health bars, sort of speak, like very low percentage. 380 00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:03,800 And Every rock that hit when they just went flying off the 381 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,800 level like this is freaking amazing. 382 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,900 It like this great it was awesome. 383 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,900 That's the other thing. I don't know if it was a 384 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:13,800 testament to just how much I love the gameplay but I liked 385 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,500 going through though, the one player like I liked going 386 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:20,700 through the the campaign. It was fine like as much fun as 387 00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:23,800 it is to play with others. Like they actually made it sort 388 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,200 of rewarding and challenging to go through the stages when you 389 00:21:27,208 --> 00:21:29,700 have to go through it to unlock some of the characters as well, 390 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:31,300 like you automatically get Jigglypuff. 391 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:33,900 I Think if you play any difficulty, I can't remember if 392 00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:37,700 it's easy or not, but I started with normal went through that a 393 00:21:37,708 --> 00:21:39,800 couple times. Then I played hard and like 394 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,400 okay, yeah, I know this is more difficult. 395 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,500 You fate, you face like Metal Mario. 396 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:48,500 And, and the guys just like, like he's like I was I think I 397 00:21:48,700 --> 00:21:51,900 first for some I hit it and hard was with Donkey Kong. 398 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:55,300 I'm pretty sure and he's grabbing me and tossing me off 399 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:58,600 the Louisville and literally taunting me and the market on 400 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,900 the same growing big and going going Smalley. 401 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:04,800 All right. And just like that, the CPU, the 402 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,000 computer in this game is Todd test. 403 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,100 You with me. Like, literally taunting me 404 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,200 like, I'm sorry, I'm not that good anymore. 405 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:14,400 That's awesome. Well, as much as I say, I enjoy 406 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,800 the single player. I'd still think Master Hand is a 407 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,300 punk that guy can just calm and, yeah, go to hell, you know what 408 00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:25,300 a lot of those moves. They've kept through the games 409 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,000 as well. When you play like me play 410 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,100 through an ultimate, for example, like the gun move, and 411 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,800 the slap down and the Uncheck all that stuff is still in 412 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,900 there. It's just done in a flashier way 413 00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:37,600 and all that. So they do the ideas that they 414 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,300 had in this like the idea of the conceit of this game. 415 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:44,500 This quote-unquote story is that it's a kid or a person, whatever 416 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:48,200 playing with their toys, that's what you're doing and I think 417 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,700 that that, like, I completely forgot that, that's what it was 418 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:56,000 like, we you open the game and the character whoever you play 419 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 or like, after you finish, the single-player is a character 420 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,300 sitting on this kid's table. You realize oh you're not you're 421 00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:07,300 not facing this magical hand, really you're playing against 422 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:09,400 the kid. That is Banning you around. 423 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,200 Right. And I think that's just a fun 424 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,800 idea that they made this basically Nintendo Toy Story is 425 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,800 kind of what it was. Yeah. 426 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,400 Like a kid playing with his toys and you're right. 427 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,500 You're collecting those like memorabilia like collectible 428 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:24,400 figures and stuff. Yeah, yeah. 429 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,700 So it's like that. That's what it was in like I 430 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:30,600 never really, I don't I didn't really remember that until I saw 431 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:33,100 the character. Lying on the desk, and I was 432 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:37,200 like, oh, this is Toy Story. But with link, you know, that's 433 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,100 what was there. Anything of playing it back in 434 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,700 like, back in the day that likes to tears like a cool unlock or 435 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,200 like something that fell like a challenge. 436 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:53,100 I know for me, like, nests, like just seemingly getting mess. 437 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:54,700 I don't even remember the circumstances. 438 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:57,300 I just remember being like rewarding once. 439 00:23:57,300 --> 00:23:59,800 Like, once you finally got a nest was just like, oh, yeah, 440 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,700 like you felt accomplished Of and then all of a sudden, you 441 00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:05,200 had a new playable character and he was actually pretty good. 442 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,200 Yeah, he was and he was very different to. 443 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,400 He had like a weird floaty jump. Be kind of had that electric. 444 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:13,200 He was actually probably the from what I remember. 445 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,000 I haven't unlocked him yet and my cartridge that I have now, 446 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,200 but I do remember that he was pretty hard to master, right? 447 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,400 I think because he had a lot of tricky moves and when he did, I 448 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,800 think it was his up be move where he had the electrical bolt 449 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,900 that coming out of his head. Oh yeah, man. 450 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,900 Yeah, I got a homing missile or yeah, they almost like a Control 451 00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:35,200 control that while you sat there stationary, right? 452 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,200 And like, yeah, that's that's kind of hard to comprehend. 453 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,500 Like, there's so much going on, especially if you're playing 454 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,100 against two or three other people like this, a lot to 455 00:24:44,108 --> 00:24:46,000 control their and a lot to wrap your mind around. 456 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,200 So yeah. He was a, he was a big one and I 457 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,400 think Captain Falcon was hard to unlock as well. 458 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Those are the two, I think you had to go do the harder 459 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,200 difficulties with and I think their, I can't remember which 460 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,300 one of them, but you had to go and do it without dying. 461 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,400 Or you had to go and do it with a certain amount of time. 462 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,800 Like there were certain unlockables and everything. 463 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,700 But I mean, honestly my biggest memories of this game are the 464 00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:11,100 multiplayer, like with with four people. 465 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,400 You know, with three other people and you're just yeah, 466 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:16,100 yelling at each other and someone knocks you off the level 467 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,300 and you're pissed. And he hit them with your 468 00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:20,500 controller, you know, like I almost had you, you know, I had 469 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,500 I had 80 Health hunt. You knock me out. 470 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,500 You had 120. You know, like something like 471 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:26,400 that. Yeah, there were those Revenge 472 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,600 missions and then also like, if someone has survived a long time 473 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,200 and they were up in like the 200 yujin, Do you want to be the 474 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,800 person to just knock them? All right, or you want to be the 475 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,700 person that is 200 and knocks? Yeah. 476 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:37,900 Well. So that's right. 477 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:42,100 That is like, it's so rewarding. Yeah, exactly. 478 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,400 Did you have any like, cheap moves that either? 479 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,900 We're done to you, or you found like, haha, I'm doing something 480 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:50,500 cheap to someone else. I mean, I think some of the 481 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:54,800 reasons why I may have gravitated towards Kirby is 482 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,500 because his down be, for example, I think could be pretty 483 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:03,000 cheap, it could be exploited. A little bit because you could 484 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,700 float above a bunch of people and let everybody else fight and 485 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,400 then you just smack yourself down if you get the finishing 486 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,200 move. Yeah. 487 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,500 And unless someone has their Shield up, you are knocking 488 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:16,600 every single one of them and they can't knock you until they 489 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:18,000 knock you out of your Shield, right? 490 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 So, it's sort of. I think that might have been 491 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,500 part of it. That was sort of like a safety 492 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,100 net almost. Yeah. 493 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,300 So I was the same with Pikachu, right? 494 00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:30,000 So right Pikachu, has a similar down be just like electric shock 495 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,000 and anyone in the area. Just gets Blown Away by it. 496 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,200 Was I love that. And then when you combine that 497 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,500 like, okay, Kirby, you're right. Like you can exploit that to 498 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:42,600 float around, but Pikachu also had the double like safety jump 499 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,500 or you could go like up and over like, a all around like two, 500 00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:47,500 three times. Yeah, so I like that. 501 00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:50,400 So there's, there's some cheap moves, you can explain that game 502 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,400 but it's all in good fun. It's all in good fun. 503 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,600 I mean, honestly, like look, this game is great, we have the 504 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,000 memories for it and everything, but I think it is also one of 505 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,900 those franchises if you want to call it that Series that, you 506 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:08,800 know, has Builds on ideas from previous iterations, like to me 507 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:11,300 like I'll get to Mario Kart and we'll talk about that in an 508 00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:14,900 episode. But to me you know I love the 509 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:19,300 Super Nintendo one over the 64 one but honestly like there's no 510 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,500 way that Mario Kart 8 is not the best iteration of that game. 511 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:26,500 And there's no way in my opinion and a lot of people really love 512 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,900 melee. As like the standout, Smash 513 00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,300 Brothers, Version. But ultimate is just like an 514 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:40,000 insanely tight good expansive game and ban 64 version. 515 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,200 Super Smash Brothers, the inaugural one just laid the 516 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,300 groundwork and it's still for the most part. 517 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:47,600 Playing it over the last couple weeks. 518 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,500 I think still holds up like I think as long as you have had 519 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,500 experience with the controller, which does make a difference 520 00:27:54,508 --> 00:27:57,200 based on the way that that it controls. 521 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,000 I think there's still lots of fun to be had even though Is, 522 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:06,600 you know, 23 years old at this point, which is insane to say. 523 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:10,000 Yeah, I mean they've improved on the graphics and obviously 524 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,700 they've expanded the playable characters and the gameplay has 525 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:16,300 improved. But the fundamentals are there, 526 00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:19,700 the reason why we like Smash Bros, it's because you just get 527 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:23,300 a bunch of familiar characters on one screen together and beat 528 00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:27,200 the hell out of them. And it was also fun was, am I 529 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,800 making this up that you could play? 530 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,200 Yeah, you could play multiplayer. 531 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,600 For player, but with against computer, so you could do like, 532 00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:36,500 like, you. And I could go up against two 533 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:39,200 computers and that was fun to, like, you can do co-op in that 534 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,000 sense, you can change the difficulty of them and 535 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,100 everything like that, you could just play around like that. 536 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400 It was great. I only played with one other 537 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,600 person, but I did play against the I guess you'd call them Bots 538 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600 or you can call me. Yeah, the CPUs. 539 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Yeah, and see, I like the slight tweaks. 540 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 You could do. Like, you could I could change. 541 00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,900 Even though green is my favorite color, I could change Luigi to 542 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,700 like the light blue version. I'm like, it's always a color. 543 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,500 I would change a character to. I think Donkey Kong was always 544 00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:09,300 the darker black dark brown color. 545 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,900 I remember that one. Yeah, Mario was the old school 546 00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:15,500 color that looked like sort of purply and you could do dr. 547 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,600 Mario, right. Doctors a different version. 548 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Oh no, he became a playable character. 549 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,700 So, yes, but I don't know. I wonder if they had a doctor - 550 00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:25,600 skin because I don't like something about that. 551 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,700 Feels familiar to me that wall and open it and and whatever the 552 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:32,600 one before ultimate was, I'm Arable at knowing the titles of 553 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,300 that. Oh, you know what? 554 00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:37,500 I think Mario had the Firepower Mario skin that I have fire 555 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,100 Mario and we have any like the in the dark green and white one 556 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,800 like that, that one. So yeah, exactly colors. 557 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,700 I always picked as well, Kirby was always. 558 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,100 I think he was sort of like a. It's like a turquoise but hey, 559 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,700 LOL. Oh yeah. 560 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,800 Blue and yellow eyes. Which is why I like this. 561 00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:57,100 Yeah. It's just like, it's just those 562 00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:00,000 little unexpected things. But, you know, they have to sort 563 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,300 of differentiate them if you're going. 564 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,900 Potentially pick the same character or whatever, right? 565 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:11,100 I did play with Fox a couple times and was not good with him 566 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,000 at all. So if you like he's a tough 567 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,600 character to play. Yes. 568 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,500 His down be unfortunately was a little bit tough because like he 569 00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:23,400 reflects back projectiles, which is which is good, but it's not 570 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,600 like you have to be up against someone with projector. 571 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,100 I mean most people do but not everyone exploits them so it's 572 00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:29,900 like, yeah. Right. 573 00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:32,100 So like Kirby doesn't really have Of a projectile. 574 00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:36,400 So if a scurvy or if I face Donkey Kong, I'm not not using 575 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,000 that move because you could reflect, you know, items and 576 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,900 things like that. But I'm not using it the way 577 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:46,700 that I would utilize other down B up, B, whatever moves that I 578 00:30:46,708 --> 00:30:49,100 would with the characters, but I don't know. 579 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:52,400 I had a good time, revisiting it and Smash Bros. 580 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,800 I think like I said, off the off the top was like the four player 581 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,100 game even more so than something like Mario Kart Mario party was. 582 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:07,800 It's just it's just such a cool idea to have Nintendo characters 583 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,800 beat the poop out of each other. Like yeah, that's really what 584 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,200 this is and it's amazing. So I mentioned, you know, the 585 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,600 Hyrule level but did you have a favorite level? 586 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,000 I really like the Donkey Kong level. 587 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,100 I thought that was fun, but I do really love Donkey Kong. 588 00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,800 Some little biased because it's a great level idzik. 589 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,900 Yeah, it's kind of cool has that has the barrel moving 590 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,300 underneath? Which is kind of cool because 591 00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:32,600 you can kind of save yourself just in case you missed the 592 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,800 ledge. But the Hyrule level was really 593 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,100 fun to. I do like I do kind of like the 594 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:40,300 levels that give you a little bit more space and that was 595 00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:43,800 probably the best one for that most fancy. 596 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,700 They had an original Mario level, right? 597 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:48,600 Look at that. Seems like something that yeah 598 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,900 there. Always, there's always original 599 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:52,000 Mario. Lemieux get like, hit the block. 600 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,800 Yeah, yeah, there was, there was a Pokemon levels later. 601 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,600 There was a lot of other Zelda levels that were introduced but 602 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,400 there was there's a select few levels and select few characters 603 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,000 but honestly it works it worked at a time you know and it's 604 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,100 still kind of does. There's enough Variety in it. 605 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,300 Every level kind of has its own quirks and its own things. 606 00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:14,500 You know, the Hyrule level had to have the tornadoes, you know. 607 00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:16,500 Well you've been when you look at the original Mortal Kombat. 608 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:18,700 There was like what eight players like the real. 609 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,700 Like same time there were less characters than that and I 610 00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:24,900 became such an iconic. Free forget that the rosters and 611 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:29,200 the levels and suffer so much smaller and how much enjoyment 612 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,100 you got out of that limited I guess what could be considered 613 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:37,100 now limited variety, right? You compare it to anything new 614 00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:38,000 now. Sure yeah. 615 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,900 No problem. It's going to be less than but 616 00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:42,700 not in a bad way. Well, yeah. 617 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:45,500 Because I would argue that a game like Smash Bros had more 618 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:49,500 variety among those 12 characters than Our fighter 619 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:52,200 games again before. So it's just like exactly every 620 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,100 character felt unique. Even the ones that were 621 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,000 mimicking like even I would say Jigglypuff and Kirby were like 622 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,200 the two that felt the most similar, but everything else, 623 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200 like even them, they had their differences but everyone else 624 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,800 felt like they had their own identity. 625 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,200 Yeah, I mean like, yo she is he controls differently. 626 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,800 He's got that floaty Luigi, jump. 627 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,600 That's the one thing he does. That's right. 628 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,200 Kind of shares that he steals that from Mario Brothers, 2, but 629 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,100 yeah. Everyone kind of had their own 630 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200 style even Mario and Luigi were different enough that you could 631 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,800 still play them differently. So the one thing like the 632 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,700 downside of playing Luigi versus where I was Mario had a way 633 00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:35,600 better, see like double jump like a way better save like 634 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400 you're falling off the platform, he could jump forward. 635 00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:41,700 If you're Luigi, you have to get close enough to the edge because 636 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:43,800 you only go straight up and then straight back down. 637 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,500 It was the worst, straight double jump, right? 638 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:48,700 It was, though, because that's the Kill movie Ghost. 639 00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:50,900 Straight up and that's your Double J. 640 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:53,900 That's your save. So like you just float down and 641 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,600 if you're not above ground, you just float to the bottom of 642 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,500 page. That really slowly starts 643 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,000 exactly what is nothing you could do, good time. 644 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,300 All right, Ian man. Thanks. 645 00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:09,800 Thanks for joining me on the show, man. 646 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,100 This is awesome. Well, we have lots lots of Ian 647 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,400 to hear about on, on back in my day. 648 00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:20,000 We've recently recorded episodes on Spider-Man, no way home. 649 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,300 We're going to have a Batman re-watch. 650 00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:24,600 We're going to go through the whole series of Batman movies so 651 00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:27,900 so it could be part of that. Yeah, we're honestly we're super 652 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:32,000 excited after seeing the Batman. So we have lots of big in from 653 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,199 the last 30 plus years of movies. 654 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,900 But yes, sir, thank you very much for joining me on. 655 00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:42,300 Remember, 64, will probably have you back again, you and mr. 656 00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:45,600 Michael, our power, probably always a pleasure always game. 657 00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,199 Alright now, let's get your answers of who your go to. 658 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,300 Super Smash Brothers fighter is I didn't really keep the 659 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:57,100 question to specific to the 64 version of the game, but I did 660 00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,800 want to hear from you who's your favorite fighter and your go to 661 00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:02,200 a couple of answers on Twitter and through email as well. 662 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,300 So share those with you. Ninja Turtle nerd. 1984 says 663 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:14,200 Donkey Kong at Auto Rock, underscore 1982, says Falco, one 664 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,300 of my co-host son back in my day podcast, Michael our power, he's 665 00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:23,600 going with link Also received a couple of emails with a couple 666 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:29,400 of picks as well. We have Samus Yoshi Luigi and 667 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,300 also nests which is an interesting pick. 668 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,400 I don't know. Anyone that has a go to Nessie 669 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,500 is as we've discussed tricky to play, but those are our answers 670 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:42,200 and lots of variety here to no overlap for the about seven 671 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,900 answers that I received. So that's awesome. 672 00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:47,600 Nice to hear from me again. Question of the day, stay tuned 673 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,600 for our next episode. We talk about Mario Kart 64. 674 00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:55,400 I want to hear who your go-to racer was and if you have a 675 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,100 favorite track as well. Thanks so much to mr. 676 00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,900 Ian Walter for joining me for the Super Smash Brothers and 677 00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:05,200 level 3 discussion and thank you everyone for joining me so far. 678 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,600 As I mentioned off, the top of the show, patreon.com slash 679 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,000 remember 64 show. 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