1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:03,900 I've seen dead ass an infinite space. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:11,000 I've seen 360° of tomorrow and for once lived to tell about it, 3 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:15,800 I guess I've got the fighting machine. 4 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:20,400 Welcome to remember 64 where this week, we head to a galaxy 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:46,900 far far away. My name is David Petraeus, 6 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:48,100 yellow. When I'll be your host for this 7 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:52,000 adventure, as I collect play study, and discuss the classic 8 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,100 Nintendo 64 console with you, and fellow nerdy guests. 9 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:59,700 You've now entered level 7, where we'll explore the Star 10 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:01,600 Wars. Galaxy with a potentially 11 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,700 forgotten gem, Shadows of the Empire. 12 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,400 Don't forget the results of the nerd. 13 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,100 Question of the day for this episode, I took to social media 14 00:01:10,300 --> 00:01:14,200 to ask you which Star Wars character needs their own video 15 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,800 game. And of course, as always 16 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,900 patreon.com slash remember 64 show is where you can support. 17 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:24,800 Remember 64 and help me build my collection. 18 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,400 So I can play more games, get episodes early and even vote on 19 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,000 what I will be playing And discussing next. 20 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:34,400 Okay, let's bust out the history books, everyone. 21 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,000 It's time to head back to December 1996 for hockey fans 22 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,400 out there. Wayne Gretzky is the first and 23 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,700 only player to ever reach 5,000 points, scored between the 24 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:50,700 regular season and playoffs on the 18th. 25 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:53,900 The TV industry in the u.s. agrees to implement a rating 26 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:56,100 system. For network shows, just two 27 00:01:56,100 --> 00:01:58,700 days. After that on the 20th, scream 28 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:02,400 is released. And on December third Star Wars, 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,300 Shadows of the Empire is released in North America. 30 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,400 Now, Luke Skywalker goes undercover with Soldier of 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,100 Fortune Dash rendar. Is he rips through space in his 32 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:12,600 battle transforming out? Right? 33 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:14,800 But can they stop slave one in time? 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,300 It's the ultimate ships for the ultimate battle, dare to enter 35 00:02:18,300 --> 00:02:24,100 the shadow Star Wars sold separately from Kenner like 36 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:26,800 many, Nintendo 64 games work on this game. 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,800 In particular, began in 1994 as deaf. 38 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:33,000 It's and specs were being sent out the Studio's who are set to 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,700 make games for the first year of the Nintendo console, LucasArts 40 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:39,500 began, crafting. The game around Dash rendar, who 41 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:41,700 was also featured in the comic series. 42 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:43,600 That will release alongside the game. 43 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,000 Taking place between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the 44 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Jedi. That Blank Spot was filled with 45 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,400 a story that became the focus early on. 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,400 But gameplay is largely where the developers hit bumps in the 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,200 road. You hear us talk about that in 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,500 just a few moments in our chat using a previous engine to 49 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:01,900 craft. Voles LucasArts was eyeing up to 50 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:05,900 20 of them for the game, but due to the Nintendo 64 cartridge 51 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:08,400 limitations. Nintendo said, they could only 52 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,000 fit 12 eventually. That was cut down to just 10 in 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,900 the final product. Over a year before the console 54 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:18,300 was released developers were given a prototype controller to 55 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:23,400 work with it featured a modded SNES game pad with a joystick 56 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:27,000 and until the fully featured N64, three armed controller was 57 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,500 available. That's what they had to use and 58 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:32,200 they weren't The only ones doing this of course, but it is pretty 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,400 wild to think about motion capture was also a goal for the 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,300 team, but due to Hardware limitations, once again, all the 61 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:41,800 work that was done at industrial Light & Magic. 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 If you don't recognize that name, that's the company that 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,100 also works on Star Wars movies, and many others. 64 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:49,100 It was started by George, Lucas himself. 65 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:52,300 All of that had to be scrapped. I know the thing you'll hear us 66 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:54,200 talk about in a moment is the music. 67 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:57,700 Sadly, the John Williams score could not fit properly on the 68 00:03:57,700 --> 00:04:01,000 cartridge. So in order to fit the MB game 69 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,200 into it, 15 minutes of music and total was squeezed in all one. 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,900 All Shadows of the empire was still a large success despite 71 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:14,200 some of these downfalls and its lifetime worldwide, it sold, 2.6 72 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:19,399 million copies, good for 18th. On the n64's all-time list. 73 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:22,900 All right, Nintendo nerds. Let's chat about playing the 74 00:04:22,907 --> 00:04:32,900 game and our memories of it. Alright, let's dive into talking 75 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:36,900 about the game itself. I have a new guest once again 76 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:38,300 this week. Luigi's. 77 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:41,200 Apartment is joining me sir. Thank you for for jumping on the 78 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,300 show. Hey, thanks for having me. 79 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,500 I love the 64 and yeah, I'm happy to be here. 80 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:49,200 Awesome. So before we jump into talking 81 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,400 about the 64 and Shadows of the empire were, can everyone keep 82 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,100 up with all your great stuff online? 83 00:04:56,100 --> 00:05:01,200 Yeah, I'm I'm at Luigi's apartment on various things, you 84 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:07,500 know to which Twitter, Instagram, good pods even and 85 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:12,500 but yeah I am part of chat of the wild which is a Zelda book 86 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:17,200 club show is what we call it or a game club that it just doesn't 87 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,800 feel right saying that. I don't think that term will 88 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,400 ever catch on but you can try. It's all good. 89 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,800 No one's going to stop. Yeah, but basically we've been 90 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,300 going through the entire Zelda series. 91 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:32,800 He's one dungeon per episode and just breaking the games down and 92 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,400 in between Zelda, games will do a zelda-like game. 93 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,100 So we can get some other games, you know, some more 94 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:41,800 representation of other systems and things in there. 95 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,700 So, not just in 10 do stuff. But I mean, he didn't have a fan 96 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:51,300 as you can tell by my name, I'm also on part of Need for Speed 97 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:54,500 running which is a speedrun podcast, J. 98 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:59,400 Hobbs one of the guys from gdq. And my buddy Brad who's on my 99 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 podcast Network. And I kind of put this thing 100 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,200 together where we look at different speed, runs a 101 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,800 different Speed games and stuff like that. 102 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,000 So it's pretty cool. Awesome. 103 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:10,900 Awesome. Lots of amazing content out 104 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:13,800 there so happy to add to your, to your workflow. 105 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:16,700 I just I just like talking about games. 106 00:06:16,700 --> 00:06:19,200 So yeah, I mean can't stop hearing about old stuff is fine 107 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,600 with me. Yeah absolutely. 108 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,600 Okay so let's let's dive in, let's talk about as a new guest 109 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,600 the sort of initiation sort of speak is Asking about your 110 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,500 experience with the N64. Growing up. 111 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:34,300 How you got it? Yeah, you know what you did sort 112 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:37,600 of leading up to today to have an experience with with this 113 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,700 console? That's now over 25 years old. 114 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:44,900 Oh God, I know. Sorry, I had to, it's okay. 115 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:48,300 I'm I'm a big lifelong Nintendo fan. 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,800 We were one console house so I'll be damned if that it wasn't 117 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,600 going to be the one with Mario games on it. 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,800 So, for, I got the 64 for Christmas that year but you're 119 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:08,000 it came out and we had sort of prepared ourselves for we being 120 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,400 my friends in the neighborhood were prepared that summer by 121 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:16,500 finally sitting down and beating Super Mario World, every single 122 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:22,400 exit, we hunted all of them down and so when we got into the room 123 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,400 with Mario 64 it very much blew our minds that we could just go 124 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:32,500 Where we wanted to and we spent the next however, many months 125 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:35,000 hunting every single star in that game down. 126 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:38,300 And it was a real group effort, is a lot of fun. 127 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,800 But Shadows of the empire was deaf. 128 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:46,300 I was definitely there. I chose it came out around the 129 00:07:46,308 --> 00:07:52,700 same time as Mario Kart 64 and I spent my money on Mario Kart 64 130 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:54,900 first. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people 131 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:58,200 just yeah. Yeah, but it but But the next 132 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,200 time, I got enough to get a game, I definitely got 133 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:05,200 definitely picked up Shadows of the empire was way into Star 134 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,500 Wars. I think I also got the VHS box 135 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:11,900 set that year. It was either. 136 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Yeah, I think for Christmas when I got the 64 and so I had 137 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 complete, I was chewing through those. 138 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:20,100 Absolutely. Yeah. 139 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:24,100 Joe it wasn't the the gold VHS, the no no no. 140 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:30,000 The the silver ones the Channel addition, the astral Cuts. 141 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,400 So I still have a VHS player just for those VHS. 142 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:38,799 And and for brain candy because I bring candy on kids, in the 143 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:42,900 whole movie on 98. I so was the only four tapes II 144 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:44,900 still have a VHS player lying around. 145 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:49,200 For now coming back into this game coming back into Shadows of 146 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,000 the Empire I want to I mean from OC's N64 games has been like 18 147 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,100 years since I've played them so I could at least I'm just 148 00:08:57,100 --> 00:08:58,700 shooting. A number out there just because 149 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:01,500 but where I completely forgot that it's it is on Hoth. 150 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,700 It is the Battle of Hoth, right? Where you're there. 151 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:08,200 I mean to me that blew me away yesterday when I played it, you 152 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,400 know, so yeah. What was your feeling sort of 153 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,800 the way the game starts even? I mean that was just that was 154 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,400 the coolest thing ever. That was like the first real 155 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:21,100 Hoth flight that we I mean you know there's this super Empire 156 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:23,300 Strikes Back and stuff but laughs yeah like you were 157 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:28,600 actually flying in the snow speeder and and Wrapping up, you 158 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,300 got the cable lockers and everything. 159 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:35,000 It was it was mind-blowing. It was it was insanely hard to 160 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:41,300 control back then when I first played it you know just getting 161 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:46,600 just getting it to work was infuriating, but I wanted it to 162 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,300 work so bad because I wanted to do that. 163 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:51,900 I want you wanted to be mine that wraps it around. 164 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:53,300 Yeah, you want to be luke, right? 165 00:09:53,700 --> 00:09:55,900 Exactly. Even if I have to be Dash, I 166 00:09:55,900 --> 00:09:56,700 Want You. Luke. 167 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:03,200 So like my friends and I were huge Star Wars fans. 168 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:08,800 So we kind of had an idea of what Shadows of the empire was. 169 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,900 I think I had read some Star Wars books at that point, but my 170 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:18,700 friend picked up Shadows of the Empire after we had played this 171 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,800 game and I read through it. And I mean it's fine. 172 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,900 I I think that the period between Empire and Jedi was Was 173 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:31,800 so legendary to me because my mom's favorite Star Wars movie 174 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,500 was Empire Strikes Back? And she drilled into me just how 175 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:41,000 awful it was to wait, three years to find out what happened 176 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,500 to Han. And so, like I just grew up with 177 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:47,600 that, not like I just my whole life, that was a big deal. 178 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,600 Did she make you well, three years to watch those movies as 179 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,700 no, and, and I sort of tried to pull that. 180 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,000 On my partner, when I first showed her Star Wars one. 181 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,300 I was like, no, you have to wait a while to make it worth it. 182 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:05,000 And, and that ended up being a really bad thing. 183 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:08,400 She know, she has still not seen Empire now. 184 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:13,900 Know, like I would have been into it if you immediately moved 185 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:16,000 into the next one. Oh no. 186 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,900 I messed up. I'm dumb. 187 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:24,600 Now you mentioned the controls for it and I think that's 188 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,300 something that I think it's something that a lot of people 189 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:30,000 have. I've seen online with old 190 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,600 reviews and stuff that that is a problem with the game. 191 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:36,300 You know, I actually found that that first half level flying 192 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:39,500 around and, and some of the space battles that are pretty 193 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,900 minimal, but you spend a lot of a decent amount of time on Hoth. 194 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:45,300 Anyway, they're not that bad, you know, I don't think that 195 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:48,300 those controls are all that bad. It is a little bit, tricky, to 196 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:50,600 stick a little bit of getting used to, when you wrap the cable 197 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,300 around the walkers, but I think it's been to get out of the ship 198 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:58,000 that you sort of, notice the I don't know if you felt the same 199 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,500 way. Yeah, I definitely, I would 200 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:06,200 replay this game a lot and I would play the, the vehicle 201 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,500 levels mostly yes. When I went to, yeah, even as a 202 00:12:10,508 --> 00:12:13,800 kid because when Once Rogue Squadron came out, I was over. 203 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,500 I was like, all right here this is this is what I wanted, this 204 00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:21,400 is what I wanted the whole time. So I think either that or some 205 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,400 of the later levels where you get a jet pack I would play 206 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,900 those a lot. Not good. 207 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:29,700 All Art, I don't know if I've ever actually beaten Gall 208 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:36,200 Spaceport before I left, I left the game at my grandma's house 209 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,400 because I would go over there on weekends sometimes and I think 210 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:45,100 my aunt babysat for a couple of kids and, and found the game and 211 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:47,300 I came back and Gall space for did been beaten. 212 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:51,000 And I was like, oh thank God. I've been working on it for like 213 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,400 a week and I still I couldn't do it. 214 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,400 And immediately, here's where you were. 215 00:12:56,700 --> 00:13:00,100 Sleep gaming or something like you have to remember, like did I 216 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:01,700 do this? Yeah, it happened to be those 217 00:13:01,700 --> 00:13:05,400 kids. But like, yeah, I even in the 218 00:13:05,408 --> 00:13:08,300 years since I've gone back and tried to beat that and I just 219 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:11,000 end up losing all my lives on Boba Fett. 220 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,700 Just I've never beaten that level. 221 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:16,600 So it's really really tough. I got to it when I got to the 222 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,100 replay over the last week and I didn't get past it, I didn't get 223 00:13:20,108 --> 00:13:22,500 past it. I mean, I I even booted up the 224 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:28,000 game in normal and the Hearth level and I was I just barely 225 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,600 made it man. Like, I just got past it because 226 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:33,800 it makes sense that a kind of ramps up the difficulty, even in 227 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,200 that, in those first couple of levels, like, you know, you 228 00:13:36,208 --> 00:13:38,400 start on hot, there's a couple of droids and then there's the 229 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,500 Walkers, then there's more Walkers and then go inside and, 230 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:45,000 you know, enemies have a few extra lives and or little bit 231 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,100 more Health than your laser maybe burns out a little quicker 232 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:51,500 and stuff but like man it is not a do more damage and they do 233 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:54,300 more damage. Yeah, I like it's not easy but I 234 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:56,900 think part of the reason why it's not easy is because They 235 00:13:57,100 --> 00:14:00,200 didn't quite get those controls down, I do think that that is 236 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:05,500 part of it. It is a very loose floaty, slidy 237 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:09,500 game the jumping and pretty much farming is pretty is the 238 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:13,300 roughest part by far. Yeah my father it's it's not all 239 00:14:13,300 --> 00:14:17,000 that it's not all that great. It is impressive for what it 240 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 what it is though. At the time like a kind of third 241 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,900 person action shooter in a 3D space. 242 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:26,500 Was kind of a big deal. I mean, we did have a lot of 243 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:31,200 Doom clones back then, but those are all kind of first-person 244 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,200 shooters it. You know, it's a different 245 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,300 Beast. Yeah, for sure. 246 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,500 Yeah, and this is still a pretty fast-paced game like you can 247 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:43,900 move pretty quickly through it. It's just tough to control 248 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,700 yourself while doing that I was trying to grab a couple of the 249 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:49,800 challenge coins, are things like, they call it and there's, 250 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,200 you know, unlike this little Cliff for there on a platform or 251 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,700 whatever and I was just like Is it worth it? 252 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,400 I don't know. Or am I just going to throw 253 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,300 myself off this Edge? Like is it really worth it? 254 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:04,000 I don't know. It kind of is like I never set 255 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,600 out to get every single challenge point in a level. 256 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:13,200 I think maybe the asteroid belt level where you you shoot you 257 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,300 get them by shooting six red glowing asteroids and since I 258 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:20,400 played that level a million times, I got all of those. 259 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:26,400 But that isn't to say that I I didn't explore every single 260 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:31,700 corner of the levels. I just didn't get all of the 261 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:35,800 challenges at in, like, in one playthrough or one setting or 262 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,200 whatever. Yeah, but it is, it is quite an 263 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,300 impressive to use that word again. 264 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:46,700 Game at like, just the design of it is it is one till I think 265 00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:49,500 it's called. Honest geometry is like the term 266 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:54,500 for if you can see it, like, when you get to it, You, you can 267 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:57,600 walk into that thing and it is still a one-to-one space. 268 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,900 It's right. It's right. 269 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:02,300 There are like loading, you know, zones in some of the 270 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:04,200 levels. But, yeah, but not many, 271 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,600 considering what they're doing with it. 272 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,100 There's really not many at all. And, and, you know, when you 273 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:12,100 really think about it like that, yeah, there's the expansion pack 274 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:14,500 for the 64 and all that kind of stuff that came later. 275 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:20,100 But to be out in, I think it's December to be out in December 276 00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:23,400 of the first year that this game came for this console came. 277 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:26,600 I'm out. I mean that's it's you don't 278 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:32,400 really have the most technically capable games on any console 279 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,000 coming out within those first few months. 280 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,300 And what they did here was unless you're a Nintendo, you 281 00:16:36,308 --> 00:16:39,000 know, unless your Nintendo and you know the system would be 282 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,300 made unless you're Mario 64. Yeah. 283 00:16:41,900 --> 00:16:44,200 Right. But but you're right a system 284 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,300 and the controller around your launch game. 285 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:47,700 Right? Exactly. 286 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:49,500 Yeah. And this has a little bit of a 287 00:16:49,508 --> 00:16:52,900 complicated history of how it got built. 288 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:55,400 They were Trying to do the music, it didn't quite work out 289 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,000 there, trying to do the controls didn't quite work. 290 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Like there was a lot that they wanted to stuff into this game 291 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,500 and I think, for the most part, despite our hesitations with it. 292 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:06,300 I think for the most part they pulled it off, I don't know, I 293 00:17:06,308 --> 00:17:06,800 don't know. Yeah. 294 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:12,000 You think you can't you can't read the crawl you know once it 295 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,700 gets above 40% of the way of the screen anymore. 296 00:17:15,700 --> 00:17:22,700 But yeah I think they they managed to make something really 297 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,700 Interesting as a is a weak word for, you know what it for what 298 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:29,900 it is. It's it's a. 299 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,700 I'm also saying impressive over and over again. 300 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:34,700 I don't know here, I'm going to laugh the synonym for 301 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:37,400 impressive. Yeah, I'm not gonna, let's see. 302 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:41,600 So I think Gall space board is a is a good example that Tim 303 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,700 Rogers when he was making stuff for Kotaku. 304 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:50,500 Made a video about that level and just how you start inside a 305 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:53,400 ship that you walk out of and it's still there. 306 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,100 And like, just how big that that level is. 307 00:17:57,100 --> 00:18:01,500 But when you see the giant building, where the jetpacks at 308 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:05,000 the top of you start out at the bottom of it, and you look up 309 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:10,500 when you ride an elevator, that elevator goes through the that 310 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:16,900 that building that geometry it and and just to like It's kind 311 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:20,900 of it was kind of mind-blowing back then, to just have a game 312 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:25,200 like that right now. All games are, you know, someone 313 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,000 like that someone. Anyway, it's it's not just 314 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 impressive. It is inspiring spectacular. 315 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:38,000 Granbull stirring or potentially Majestic. 316 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:41,800 There you go. So we could use any of those 317 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,300 going forward. Yeah, it's funny that the music. 318 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,900 Yeah, I didn't I didn't. That they like had trouble 319 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:50,400 getting that to work and they, you know, they were going to go 320 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,300 with their own soundtrack. Exactly the base period, their 321 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:54,600 own soundtrack. Yeah. 322 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,500 And, and they wanted the tracks to be longer, but they couldn't 323 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:59,500 because the cartridge could only hold so much. 324 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:01,400 You know, like, there's a lot of usable. 325 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:04,900 Yeah, it's the music is there, it's recognizable. 326 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:06,800 It's still Star Wars, you know, all of that. 327 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,700 But, you know, it's a shame that it's, you know, the tracks are 328 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:12,700 very short, and they repeat themselves, right? 329 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:16,500 So it's hard to nitpick with Something like that, but with 330 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:20,000 Star Wars, it's more iconic. So maybe that's why it's more 331 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,900 recognizable. Yeah. 332 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:25,500 And and their those Loops are definitely burned into my brain. 333 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:31,700 I know them very well. Some of them are songs from 334 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,000 Empire. Yeah. 335 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,600 And so those tracks, I'm just like, like, when I watch Empire 336 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,400 like, they're very, I know them, intimately. 337 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:44,000 And then the, the songs from the game itself. 338 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,100 Yeah. They just are Those levels are 339 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:51,000 long and you hear them. You hear that song repeated a 340 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,500 lot? Yeah, yeah. 341 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:55,800 That's I never managed own. I never owned the soundtrack 342 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,100 though. I never looked, I didn't I 343 00:19:58,100 --> 00:19:59,800 didn't I never really read comic books. 344 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,700 I didn't read the comic book that went along with this, but 345 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:06,800 this was like a whole big project that probably should 346 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:12,100 have been a movie, but I assume the actors, you know, I don't 347 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:13,700 know. Did we probably couldn't have 348 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:18,500 gotten, you know? Mark and Kerry for it or 349 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:20,200 something. Yeah, I mean, something like 350 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,800 that. Yeah, but you know what, it's in 351 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,800 a way it's a little bit of what Disney, and, and Star Wars are 352 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,500 doing with the TV shows, now is what you could see with this 353 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:32,600 type of story, right? I mean it was a comic book for a 354 00:20:32,608 --> 00:20:35,900 little bit and then it was the game and but this is exactly 355 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:38,000 what they're doing, they're filling in the blanks, right? 356 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,900 So to do this 25, 26 years ago, is that itself is impressive to 357 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:45,400 me, is just the fact that they went for it. 358 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,800 Yeah he feels kind of familiar. It kind of feels like he's Hans 359 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Solo a little bit and his ship is somewhat, similar to the 360 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,900 Falcon and all the ending. Yeah. 361 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:54,600 But that's fine. You know there's other big of a 362 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,900 falcon crossed with a b-wing. Yeah. 363 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:02,000 Yeah but I hear was supposed to fold out just like a b-wing so 364 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,600 but they didn't do that. That'd be cool. 365 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:06,800 Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I think that that 366 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600 to me a lot of people are saying that. 367 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,800 Oh I wish I had something new from Star Wars. 368 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,800 I wish I had something away from the Skywalker Saga, which I 369 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000 don't. Disagree with, but if you're 370 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,700 going to get something, that is at least tangentially related to 371 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:24,100 the Skywalker Saga, like they should do this. 372 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,400 I want us to be cool. I think it'd be awesome. 373 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:31,300 I think, I think, you know, they probably won't because then you 374 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:33,700 have to cast young, Luke and young Leia. 375 00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:36,900 Yeah. So yeah, maybe not. 376 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:43,900 But it is a really cool story and dash, doesn't play a huge 377 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:46,000 role. I mean, kind of A huge role in 378 00:21:46,008 --> 00:21:50,200 the book but like he's more than just the guy who's there for a 379 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,000 lot of the like action scenes and they're girls, they can make 380 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,700 a game with all of those, you know, tense moments. 381 00:21:57,700 --> 00:22:02,600 Yeah, and build it around this one character and then, yeah, 382 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,400 they sort of leave it open-ended for him at the end. 383 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,500 Mmm, what do you think? What do you think? 384 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:11,700 The way that it's sort of wraps up their will, because it on 385 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:15,400 easy mode, if you beat it on easy mode, it goes, hey, Beat 386 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,300 It. It on normal mode armor. 387 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:20,100 Yeah, that's a see, the real ending. 388 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:24,400 And the real ending is he snuck away and was like now, dude, we 389 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,400 weren't going to get paid for that we you know, we're probably 390 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,600 if they think we're alive. Someone's going to try and kill 391 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,700 us. This is much better and so yeah 392 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:36,300 he just kind of skates away. Yeah. 393 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:39,500 This is something I completely forgot about because like I said 394 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:42,000 yeah me too. I tried to play through normal 395 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,700 and got my butt. Kicked a few levels in and just 396 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:47,300 made it past the first Couple but I when I, when even when I 397 00:22:47,308 --> 00:22:51,700 was playing it through easy, over the last week, I didn't 398 00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:54,600 make it to the end, but I was like, I can't remember what this 399 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,900 ending is. I'm getting close. 400 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,800 I'm getting low. So, you know, and with any good, 401 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:00,300 it is pretty good. I think. 402 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,900 I like, I like, I like not everybody likes this in like 403 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:07,300 movies and shows and stuff, but like, an open-ended ending to 404 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,600 me, it's not so bad. Like, I, If you could interpret 405 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,400 where you want to see that character, go and you think 406 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,500 you're not going to see them again. 407 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:16,900 Like to me, I think that that Makes could make things more 408 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:18,200 interesting. Maybe not. 409 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,300 You know, if you have a bad story leading up to, it doesn't 410 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:23,200 really matter How It Ends. But I think for the most part I 411 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,100 think for the most part, the story is pretty good and it and 412 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,300 it lends itself to a little bit of interpretation. 413 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:30,800 And, you know, the kind of character that he is like a Han 414 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,100 Solo for example. Like I think it makes sense to 415 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:38,800 do that and they're not forcing him to be quote unquote, the 416 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,700 hero, you know what I mean? Something like that. 417 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:41,700 That's just what. Yeah. 418 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,800 Yeah. And I even think the lead up to 419 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,100 the nth like the Three levels are all basically back-to-back. 420 00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:52,400 Like you go into the sewers and the reason you go into the 421 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:59,600 sewers, it's a to sneak in to the penultimate level which then 422 00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:04,800 leads to the fight above you know up in space and like alter 423 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,400 such a cool idea. Yeah. 424 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,700 And all three of those levels are actually really fun. 425 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:12,700 I love I think my favorite just walking around dude. 426 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:18,700 Level is the sewers and And you fight the crap, the trash 427 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:22,200 monsters on the the the ganas or something. 428 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,700 Yeah. Yeah, you said a brain fart, as 429 00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:29,900 you said it to that bar, love that level. 430 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:32,000 It's great. And you get you you end up like 431 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:38,000 in some, you know, pipe systems and looking for keys and stuff. 432 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,200 And yeah, I spent so much time on that level as a kid and yeah, 433 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:45,300 I yeah, I really like the end of that game. 434 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,700 It's good. Yeah, I think it wraps nicely or 435 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,700 at least does it if that's the type of story that you like, but 436 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:53,900 I like the way it flows. I like the way that the way it 437 00:24:53,908 --> 00:24:57,200 all comes together. Now overall, do you feel like, 438 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,300 you know, we talked about the story, we talk about the 439 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:01,500 controls, we talk about the sound and all that type of stuff 440 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,900 overall. Is it something that holds the 441 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:09,900 test of time or is it more so that it is shaking her head or 442 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:13,400 is it more? So another one of the impressive 443 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,000 synonyms or is it just more More of a imposing Majestic, 444 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,800 magnificent, Magnificent, Presence, because of what 445 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,100 happened at the time and how they made it at the time. 446 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:26,200 Yeah, I think it's important as I still think it's an important 447 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,500 game, just that being in a 3D space. 448 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:36,300 Like Mario, 64 is a massively important game, but LucasArts 449 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:40,000 was clearly working off of something like that to, like, 450 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,700 this is what we can do with this. 451 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,800 Let's, let's, you know, make Thing out of it and and yeah, 452 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,600 you know, Mario, 64 has plenty, eat you, you run into the castle 453 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,500 but it's not. You running like running around 454 00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:57,300 the castle. There's a loading zone and then 455 00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:01,400 you're in a giant space, right? Whereas Shadows, the Empire 456 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,300 would look at Peach's castle and then you would step in there, 457 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:08,200 and it would be exactly the same size as what it was. 458 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:13,300 You know, it's a constant thing. And so just that is pretty cool 459 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:18,500 and like, I can't stress enough. F, how incredible that was back 460 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:22,600 in the day. And if you can skip the train 461 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,500 level, yes, the trail of like everything to mention that. 462 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:30,500 Yeah, I remember just that's one of those, bang, your head 463 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:32,300 against the wall type experiences. 464 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:35,300 I remember that way back, like having a, like you mentioned 465 00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:39,600 your friends and you guys made your way through Mario 64 and 466 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,900 and then start Super Mario World and all that. 467 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:45,800 And I remember my I never owned this game as a kid but I Played 468 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,600 it a lot at one of my friends places. 469 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,000 We were the Big Star Wars fans and this was the one that we 470 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,700 just like, okay, diet your turn. Okay, I died your turn. 471 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:59,400 Okay, I died your turn and it's just God, I wish I wish I was 472 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,400 better at these older games now so that I can be like oh what 473 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,100 was I doing? As a kid that was nothing like 474 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,500 no big deal. Yeah, like a mile. 475 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:09,600 It's the same. I know I played it this week and 476 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:16,900 I burned through all my lives and just Going to ig-88 and then 477 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:20,400 he wasted me immediately. Yeah, I said, I don't think that 478 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,300 g88 is awesome. I love ITT. 479 00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,300 It's such a low. Yeah, cool looking character. 480 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:28,100 Obviously the same Droid has popped up another story lines at 481 00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:31,400 this point, everything. But that's the first that I knew 482 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,400 of that character was ig-88 and I think it might have been 483 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,900 introduced in the comics, but I don't know that for sure. 484 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:41,600 I'm not, I, he's hanging out in the Bounty Hunter seen, and I 485 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:41,900 do. Yeah. 486 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:49,100 An Empire duh but So I was we that was a super cool moment to 487 00:27:49,108 --> 00:27:51,100 be like oh man he's here. Yeah. 488 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:57,900 So but then he killed us again and every time every single time 489 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,200 as you don't you don't get many weapons. 490 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,300 That's another cool thing is that when you get to the end of 491 00:28:03,308 --> 00:28:07,700 a level you can save that data be like this. 492 00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:11,400 You know what? Your ammo count was, how many 493 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,200 lives you had the more challenge points you get you get extra 494 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,700 lives for And and so going into the trash level, like you don't 495 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:25,900 really have much ammo built up and so you don't have a lot of 496 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:28,600 crap to deal with with ig-88 successfully. 497 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,300 Like, you know, if I had some disruptors or you know, that 498 00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:35,800 pulse Cannon ammo, I I dragged him but I don't. 499 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,700 So I have to use the Seeker awkwardly. 500 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:42,300 Yeah, the secret is just like wait, this is supposed to be the 501 00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:44,600 Homing missile and it's like, is it is it though? 502 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,700 Is it It is made first in the first level, maybe on Hoth, but 503 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:51,700 after that, you've got enough space, it'll home in. 504 00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:52,900 That's what? That's exactly it. 505 00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:55,600 Yeah, the second you go down a hallway, you're like, oh geez. 506 00:28:56,100 --> 00:29:00,300 Yeah, I tend to just like, get real close to two people and use 507 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:03,600 it as then if it misses. Yeah. 508 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,900 Yeah you gotta sit there and watch it and the whole time Dash 509 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:09,000 is going. Oh, oh. 510 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,700 And I'm just like I can't do anything about this. 511 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,400 Sorry man, what do you want from me? 512 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:18,300 It's a shame, but like you said, it, I think it is still an 513 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:19,800 important game. I think it is still something 514 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,300 that stands out. And I do to me, I think, if 515 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:25,100 you're really die, hard, Star Wars fan, it's worth a try. 516 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,400 I don't know that you're necessarily going to get too far 517 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,600 because it might be a little frustrating control wise or if 518 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,300 you play it on a harder difficulty, it's just going to 519 00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,500 be very difficult. But mmm, I do think that looking 520 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,200 back on it, it still does make sense to these. 521 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,100 Give it a shot, you know. I know you know if you have an 522 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,600 N64 and you want to pop in the cartridge, you can find it for 523 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,500 not super Expensive out there because it's it was a very 524 00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:51,100 common game and its not super rare or anything so early and 525 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:52,900 it's early game. So, a lot of people bought it. 526 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,700 Exactly. And it said Star Wars, so a lot 527 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,500 of people bought it, right? So yeah, that's pretty much it. 528 00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:01,500 So it's a fun game that the enemies aren't too difficult and 529 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:05,600 like, he keep the laser on he will, he will home in on them 530 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,700 from very far away. And you can and when you die, 531 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:15,200 the anyone that you've killed or even damaged stays that amount. 532 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:19,100 Their HP Remains the Same and so you can kind of wipe enough 533 00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:21,900 people out and then just kind of explore those levels because 534 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,600 they are kind of cool. Yes. 535 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,200 Tough to move its just oh that's the other thing. 536 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,100 Is it more so works for the for the ship and the sort of, you 537 00:30:32,108 --> 00:30:35,000 know, vehicle levels. But there's a camera angle 538 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,100 that's like cinematic which is so crazy that that's even 539 00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:42,700 possible. At that point that you hit it 540 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:44,600 and it's, yeah, it's a little too tough to control. 541 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,900 It's not really The goal in any way, but the fact that they have 542 00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,500 that the fact that you can hit the C button, one of the C 543 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:53,900 buttons, I think it's left. Yeah, it's the one that I hit 544 00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:56,200 and then go crap. And then cycle through they met 545 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,500 and and it does the same sort of, like, pop in zoom on your 546 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,300 face above you, and then pans behind you. 547 00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:07,800 And I'm just like, that's another thing that is just 548 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,200 burned into my brain, is when I accidentally hit that button, I 549 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,900 hit it three more times and I know exactly how the cameras 550 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,400 going to sleep. Aishwarya, it has a, I noticed 551 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,300 two, I decided this time I was like, let's see what what these 552 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:24,200 different camera angles actually look like because I've never 553 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,300 used anything other than the behind the default one. 554 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Yeah and it's got a fixed camera like Resident Evil style 12 and 555 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,100 like if you move into a different room it'll oh yeah 556 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,500 that's a cinematic one. Yeah that's a cinematic went 557 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:41,500 basically the off. So it's it doesn't make any 558 00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,200 sense. You can't see anything which I 559 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,400 know is part of what the re games Do like that's part of the 560 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,700 intensity of them, and that's totally fine because that's what 561 00:31:48,708 --> 00:31:51,900 those games are. But not for this, you know, no, 562 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:55,400 because it doesn't work. Once it moves, you have to like, 563 00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:01,200 like the, the, the direction that you push to move Dash 564 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,200 changes to depending on where the camera is and it and how you 565 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,700 also know how you supposed to know. 566 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,800 I did that for like 5 Seconds. It was like nope this is this is 567 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,900 why we didn't do this. I did a little bit of first 568 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:18,500 person in in the ships which isn't as bad because you know, 569 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,100 whatever it's it is what it is. But you know, I like the 570 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:25,200 default, I mean, I just like third-person Shooters better 571 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,500 than FPS games in general even. Now I just sort of like, seeing 572 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,700 the environment, I like see what my characters Dewey. 573 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,400 And I like, sort of have a better feel of what's around me. 574 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,900 Maybe it just makes me feel more comfortable that I can see what 575 00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:38,700 could potentially. The be just behind my shoulder, 576 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,100 maybe that's what it is. And I'm just not as good as I 577 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:43,100 used to be. So I don't know. 578 00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:46,300 But I like the way it looked. Yeah, I think especially with 579 00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:48,000 vehicles. I'm the same way. 580 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,600 We're like driving a racing game Enemy outside. 581 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,400 Yeah, I gotta know who's next to me or, you know, like it's 582 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,900 someone coming up on me. It just doesn't feel right if I 583 00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:59,800 don't see my car, which is counter-intuitive because I 584 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,600 drive a car everyday and I'm inside it. 585 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,600 But yeah, but also to, with some of those card games, it's like 586 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,500 you spend all this time, customizing it. 587 00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:10,000 And now I don't get to see It. I don't go see my my anime lady 588 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,500 plastic on the side of my for tomorrow. 589 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:15,600 I won't know exactly what that sweet bright orange car right in 590 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,100 front of my face the entire time. 591 00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:21,000 Alright, we've got fun on to the big tangent. 592 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Now, this is the real issue. This is the real problem at 593 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,900 hand. Yeah, yeah. 594 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:32,700 And I think the, I think the vehicle levels are are fun as 595 00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:35,800 well in this. But like you once Rogue Squadron 596 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,700 hits like like okay. This is, this is like now they 597 00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,600 have a they have one idea that they're working with. 598 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Whereas there's just so many different ideas folded into this 599 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,500 game and some of them work, some of them don't, but it's cool. 600 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:56,300 And I you know, I love old LucasArts games you know Star 601 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,400 Wars or not and day of the 10th a man. 602 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,500 Yeah. Oh dude that is my by far. 603 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:07,300 My favorite scum game. Love it, float over. 604 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,300 Here, so I can punch you nice. That's good. 605 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,800 But but yeah. So like they were, they were 606 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,699 trying stuff and they made something really cool. 607 00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:20,699 Yep, exactly. Yeah, exactly. 608 00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:22,300 So we'll get to Rogue Squadron, at some point. 609 00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:24,100 I'm gonna definitely be playing that. 610 00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:24,699 I have it. Oh, yeah. 611 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,100 In a pot. Right beside me. 612 00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:29,500 Anyways of my cartridges, so it's coming up for sure. 613 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:33,300 So, but until that time, sir, thank you for joining me. 614 00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:35,800 Absolutely. Thank you for having me. 615 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,800 Yeah. Just just a quick Neither was 616 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,000 ever gonna be able to find your stuff. 617 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,000 Hey, I'm at Luigi's apartment on Twitch and Twitter and insta-mom 618 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,100 on chat of the wild, which is a Legend of Zelda book club 619 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,500 podcast, part of the hyperx podcast Network. 620 00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:55,500 And you can also Follow Need for Speed running @nf speedrunning 621 00:34:55,500 --> 00:35:00,100 on Twitter and insta-mom and we just put out an episode about 622 00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:06,400 Final Fantasy 10. Yeah, that is a long game. 623 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,700 I was going to say Yeah, it's our. 624 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:12,600 First of, we're doing these Pitstop episodes were calling 625 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,900 them where for the usual episodes we actually break. 626 00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:20,200 Go watch 30 to 60 Minute Speed Run. 627 00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:23,900 And then talk about like how, you know, the watchability of it 628 00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,200 and how it kind of works and stuff. 629 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,700 But for these what we want to do things for longer games or you 630 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:34,700 know, off-topic sort of things. And so this is our first one on 631 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:38,300 that and we got a Dave stereo in Talk about. 632 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:42,300 Yeah, all things Final Fantasy 10 speedrunning, so awesome. 633 00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:45,900 So while wild things going on, when I get back to you could 634 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:48,400 speedrun anything Final Fantasy to me, just blows my mind. 635 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,200 So that's that's the cool part about RPGs. 636 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,900 Like that's one of the things I want to look into is every RPG 637 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:59,000 is, is different, you know, like the way the the RNG works and 638 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,300 the, underlying systems, and even the system in the game, you 639 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:05,700 know, everything's different. So the ways you break them are 640 00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:08,700 entirely different Right. And that's it. 641 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,500 That's cool to me. I want to, I want to I want to 642 00:36:10,508 --> 00:36:12,300 look into that kind of stuff. Awesome. 643 00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:14,100 Awesome. Alright, well, everyone can find 644 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,100 you there and some cool different stuff to look forward 645 00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,300 to as well. Thank you again for joining me 646 00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:21,400 on the show. Absolutely, thanks for having 647 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:33,100 me. A bunch of really good answers 648 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,600 for the nerd question of the day. 649 00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:37,500 Thank you, everyone who has been participating over the last 650 00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:40,600 couple of episodes. Again too many responses to go 651 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,800 through but I'll mention just a few. 652 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,300 Some responses on Tick-Tock came as just a general bounty hunter 653 00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:51,200 game, you know, Mandalorian maybe more specifically in some 654 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,600 ways. We did have a couple of answers 655 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,400 on Twitter that said man do as well along with grow goo. 656 00:36:56,500 --> 00:37:00,600 Thron was an interesting choice and I will say for sure and 657 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,000 named the Multiverse of Badness podcast who responded on Twitter 658 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,900 and saying Cobb van. 'The, and the reason why I'm 659 00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,300 pointing that one out in particular is because that is 660 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:12,100 actually the first character that I thought of when I asked 661 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,900 this question to you also another funny response ahead on 662 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:19,700 Tick Tock as well, was from leftover soda that said a gonk 663 00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:26,000 Droid Thank you again, everyone for listening to the episode and 664 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,600 thank you to Luigi's apartment for joining me as well. 665 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,900 Make sure you check out his great stuff and just a, reminder 666 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:35,600 once again, patreon.com slash remember 64 show where you can 667 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,300 get all of these episodes early and you can be a part of the 668 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:42,800 show as well and help shape, what games I play and talk about 669 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,300 next. You can always email me as well. 670 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:50,200 Remember, 64, show at gmail.com? And find me at remember 64 show 671 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:56,800 on Instagram Tick-Tock and on Twitch as well until next time. 672 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,600 Stay pixelated. My friends.