1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Hey man, how's it going? Not bad. 2 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:05,120 Not bad. No more cowboy ghost, right? 3 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:07,760 You got to understand something. I ride the Klanser. 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,520 I have the answers. I played great dodgeball for the 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,040 Persian Kitty. Just be for the light years and 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,680 a lot of shaking. Welcome to Remember 64, where 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,400 this week we shake, shake, shake, shake. 8 00:00:39,370 --> 00:00:42,530 Welcome to the show everyone. My name is David Patrangelo, and 9 00:00:42,530 --> 00:00:46,650 this week we're playing and chatting about Mischief Makers. 10 00:00:47,010 --> 00:00:50,730 Momentarily, I'll be joined by the one and only Slunk Obama, a 11 00:00:50,730 --> 00:00:54,330 wonderfully fun and entertaining gamer and content creator, over 12 00:00:54,330 --> 00:00:56,880 on YouTube. 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Hi, This is Mono, the host of 28 00:01:50,540 --> 00:01:54,500 Tokyo Game Life, a Tokyo based video game podcast focusing on 29 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:56,900 Nintendo and gaming culture in Japan's capital. 30 00:01:57,260 --> 00:01:59,540 It's your slice of gaming life from Tokyo. 31 00:02:00,380 --> 00:02:03,180 Every episode features deep dives into gaming related places 32 00:02:03,180 --> 00:02:06,260 to visit in Tokyo, interviews with fans, developers and 33 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:09,620 experts, plus detailed thoughts on both retro and new games. 34 00:02:10,259 --> 00:02:15,140 Tokyo Game Life, only on the Tokyo Beat Network OK, let's 35 00:02:15,140 --> 00:02:16,740 bust out the history books everyone. 36 00:02:18,140 --> 00:02:21,900 We're heading back to October of 1997. 37 00:02:22,180 --> 00:02:26,060 Mischief Makers, if you didn't know, was the very first 2D 38 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:29,900 platformer on the Nintendo 64. We've talked about a few on this 39 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:33,340 podcast, including games like Yoshi Story, but I'm guessing 40 00:02:33,340 --> 00:02:37,220 there isn't one quite like this. The title was developed by 41 00:02:37,220 --> 00:02:40,660 Treasure and published by Enix in Japan and Nintendo 42 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:43,460 internationally. In the game, you play as Marina 43 00:02:43,460 --> 00:02:46,260 Light Years. No, not Buzz Lightyear. 44 00:02:46,820 --> 00:02:50,740 She's a robotic maid who's trying to rescue her creator 45 00:02:50,820 --> 00:02:53,300 from the emperor of Planet Clancer. 46 00:02:53,820 --> 00:02:56,140 Okay. That's a very brief overview, 47 00:02:56,580 --> 00:02:59,980 but development on the game began about 16 months before the 48 00:02:59,980 --> 00:03:03,820 N64 was released, and at that time little was known about the 49 00:03:03,820 --> 00:03:07,040 console itself. Nintendo had things pretty far 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,600 under wraps when Treasure was told it was a cartridge based 51 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:13,200 console. They had to shift some strategy 52 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,560 as it was the first time for many of them on the team that 53 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,320 they would not be creating a game on a CD-ROM. 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,920 A select few did come from Konami though, where they worked 55 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:25,920 on Castlevania and Contra in the past for the NES. 56 00:03:26,310 --> 00:03:29,390 But the team has said in past interviews the N64 was 57 00:03:29,390 --> 00:03:32,470 restrictive at the time and that made the development process 58 00:03:32,510 --> 00:03:35,390 much more difficult early on in its life cycle. 59 00:03:36,270 --> 00:03:39,550 In a separate interview with IGN, Treasurer's CEO said that 60 00:03:39,550 --> 00:03:42,390 the catching or grabbing mechanic in the game was 61 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:45,310 something they really wanted to do, but it proved to be quite 62 00:03:45,310 --> 00:03:48,230 difficult in the end. It says that the team of 15 63 00:03:48,230 --> 00:03:50,790 developers were able to achieve what they wanted with the 64 00:03:50,790 --> 00:03:53,350 limited resources they were awarded at the time. 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,200 With a little bit of help from Enix as the publisher, Treasurer 66 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,760 says they were able to implement most of what they were striving 67 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,120 for in Mischief makers. This was an interesting scenario 68 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,520 though, as it was just months prior that Enix announced it 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,480 would be ending its exclusivity deal with Nintendo and releasing 70 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,040 its Dragon Quest games for Sony and PlayStation. 71 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,200 The initial plan was for mischief makers to only be 72 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,720 released in Japan, but when the big end stepped in, they put 73 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,320 together a localization team and off they went. 74 00:04:23,650 --> 00:04:25,770 And released the game internationally. 75 00:04:26,450 --> 00:04:29,890 Mischief makers didn't fly off store shelves, with many 76 00:04:29,890 --> 00:04:33,130 estimating that sales may have dipped more than expected 77 00:04:33,330 --> 00:04:36,690 because gamers at the time were looking for a 3D experience 78 00:04:36,850 --> 00:04:39,370 instead of a somewhat familiar 2D one. 79 00:04:39,450 --> 00:04:42,410 That is, after all, how the consoles in that generation were 80 00:04:42,410 --> 00:04:45,270 marketed. 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Thank you so much for having me. 111 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,880 It's a pleasure to finally be here. 112 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,880 How are you? I'm good. 113 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,720 I'm good. I'm. 114 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,680 I'm really happy that, and I've said this before in other 115 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,440 episodes too, but I'm always happy to be able to play a game 116 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,880 that someone else is passionate about. 117 00:06:58,790 --> 00:07:00,710 Or has fond memories of and everything. 118 00:07:00,710 --> 00:07:04,430 Because it's not like, you know, I do this show, but it's not 119 00:07:04,430 --> 00:07:06,430 really about me, you know, It's about the games and it's about 120 00:07:06,430 --> 00:07:07,790 the people that play them and everything. 121 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:11,070 So. So I'm actually excited that we 122 00:07:11,070 --> 00:07:14,590 get to talk about something like this because me too. 123 00:07:14,790 --> 00:07:18,390 Yeah, you feel like nobody ever talks about this game. 124 00:07:19,070 --> 00:07:20,270 Exactly. So there you go. 125 00:07:21,710 --> 00:07:24,990 So we'll get into the game in just a SEC, I think before, so I 126 00:07:24,990 --> 00:07:27,430 don't forget, which clearly I have done in the past. 127 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:30,910 Why don't we talk about yourself a little bit because you do some 128 00:07:30,910 --> 00:07:32,830 really great work on YouTube and everything. 129 00:07:32,830 --> 00:07:36,750 I want everybody to let everybody know what you do and 130 00:07:36,750 --> 00:07:38,950 how you do it, and I'll let you sort of take the reins from 131 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:40,550 there. OK. 132 00:07:40,590 --> 00:07:45,590 Well, hi guys, My name is Slonco, Slonco Bomb Bomb Swamps, 133 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:48,750 and I'm a content creator on YouTube. 134 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:52,830 I basically love video games, just like you guys probably do. 135 00:07:54,190 --> 00:07:57,590 Yes, I've been playing video games probably since 1989, 136 00:07:57,590 --> 00:08:01,710 nineteen 90, starting off with the OG consoles. 137 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:05,670 Nintendo was my first console all the way up to the current 138 00:08:05,670 --> 00:08:09,900 consoles, and I just love sharing my gaming adventures. 139 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:13,220 And I love letting people know predominantly about the Nintendo 140 00:08:13,220 --> 00:08:15,580 Switch, what games are coming out for Nintendo Switch. 141 00:08:15,940 --> 00:08:18,420 And I also like to spotlight games that I'm playing on other 142 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:20,660 consoles as well. So yeah, we just have a good 143 00:08:20,660 --> 00:08:24,140 time, that's all. And where and where can everyone 144 00:08:24,140 --> 00:08:26,460 find it? Because you have a I I I said 145 00:08:26,460 --> 00:08:28,860 this. You know, I've been saying this 146 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:30,660 as I've watched more and more of your stuff. 147 00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:33,700 It's just like it your your personality, your channel, 148 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:36,990 everything is very. Happy and positive and all of 149 00:08:36,990 --> 00:08:40,230 that stuff that we need more of or it needs to be more at the 150 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:42,950 forefront. So I want people to experience 151 00:08:42,950 --> 00:08:44,070 that as well. Where can they find it? 152 00:08:45,150 --> 00:08:49,590 Well, you can find it on YouTube, it's at www.youtube.com 153 00:08:49,950 --> 00:08:54,270 schlankeelbomb. All the O's are zeros and you 154 00:08:54,270 --> 00:08:56,710 can also find me on Twitter as well at Schlankeelbomp. 155 00:08:57,190 --> 00:08:58,270 Amazing. Amazing. 156 00:08:58,350 --> 00:08:59,390 Okay. So thank you. 157 00:09:00,220 --> 00:09:02,940 You've you mentioned that you've had all this long experience 158 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:08,380 with video games as many people have and the N64 is either a big 159 00:09:08,380 --> 00:09:10,860 or small part of it. We'll we'll I'll ask you so 160 00:09:10,980 --> 00:09:14,460 let's let's talk about the 64. Let's talk about before we get 161 00:09:14,460 --> 00:09:17,140 to the game itself, what's what was your experience with it 162 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:19,660 growing up? What is it sort of now you know, 163 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:21,940 was was it a long lived thing? Was it brief? 164 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:24,500 What kind of games did you play growing up? 165 00:09:24,940 --> 00:09:30,120 Let's let's get into that first. Well, I love Nintendo. 166 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,160 Actually, my community, Some of them call me Nintendo Mama. 167 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,320 So Nintendo 64 was. I know. 168 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,560 I love it. No, no, it's great. 169 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,760 Don't hide. It's amazing. 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,080 Yeah, Nintendo Mama. But Nintendo 64 was very special 171 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,160 to me. It's not my favorite Nintendo 172 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,440 console. I will put that out there. 173 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,840 Hey, not mine either. Just cuz I do this show doesn't 174 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,560 mean it's my favorite. My God, I'm surprised. 175 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,150 I thought it was. I'm a Super Nintendo girl, so 176 00:09:59,350 --> 00:10:01,310 seeing that, we're going to progress to something. 177 00:10:01,670 --> 00:10:06,510 Oh, awesome, We have to talk. So seeing that Nintendo was 178 00:10:06,510 --> 00:10:09,550 progressing, we're going to get, you know, 64 bit games. 179 00:10:09,550 --> 00:10:13,030 Like, you know, I was really excited and my brother actually 180 00:10:13,030 --> 00:10:15,350 got it. He's older than I, so he had a 181 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:19,270 Nintendo 64 before I did and he was very stingy with it. 182 00:10:19,270 --> 00:10:22,710 So I was begging my mom, please, mom, I need this. 183 00:10:22,750 --> 00:10:27,630 I need this. And Christmas 1997, That's when 184 00:10:27,630 --> 00:10:32,350 I got the limited edition gold controller Toys-R-Us. 185 00:10:33,190 --> 00:10:36,270 Yes, yes, I know. I was like, this is heaven. 186 00:10:36,670 --> 00:10:39,270 And of course we all see that rectangle box and you're like, 187 00:10:39,270 --> 00:10:41,390 OK, it's a game, but like, what game is it? 188 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:45,510 And it was Mischief Makers. No way. 189 00:10:45,550 --> 00:10:46,870 What? Yes. 190 00:10:47,270 --> 00:10:48,950 Yeah. So that's why, like this game 191 00:10:48,950 --> 00:10:51,830 means it means so much to me. I'm like, how did you? 192 00:10:51,950 --> 00:10:53,710 Like, what do you know about mischief makers? 193 00:10:53,710 --> 00:10:57,400 Like, what is this? And I was a subscriber of 194 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,200 Nintendo Power, so I vaguely recall reading about it, but not 195 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,520 really knowing too much about it. 196 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:06,200 And right Chef's Kiss. I love this. 197 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Game. That's amazing. 198 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,000 You know what? Even though you said that you 199 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,240 had a history with this game, even before we hit record and 200 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,200 all that kind of stuff, and we're sort of figuring this out 201 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,400 and and everything, I somehow still did not expect that that 202 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,880 would be the game that you said you were going to open. 203 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,900 I don't know why. I just didn't, Of course. 204 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:25,980 Well, you know, like Nintendo 64 came out, what, 96? 205 00:11:26,020 --> 00:11:28,180 Right. So everybody was playing, you 206 00:11:28,180 --> 00:11:30,860 know, Super Mario 64, like, that was the game. 207 00:11:30,860 --> 00:11:32,100 Everybody like. Pretty. 208 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:35,300 But also there wasn't a huge, there wasn't a huge library of 209 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:38,980 games in that first year. Like it really was not massive 210 00:11:39,380 --> 00:11:44,500 because from the way things seem, it was really hard to you 211 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:47,100 know. Get things out in time and 212 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:50,100 develop for cuz Nintendo was really stingy about getting 213 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:53,580 their technology out there, so it's just like they still are. 214 00:11:55,020 --> 00:11:57,580 They still are, but they were like keeping things so under 215 00:11:57,580 --> 00:12:00,380 wraps that it was like. Yeah, come on. 216 00:12:00,380 --> 00:12:03,140 Anyways, so I don't know like what were, what were some of the 217 00:12:03,140 --> 00:12:07,180 games that came out like it was Super Mario 64, I think maybe 218 00:12:07,180 --> 00:12:10,780 Mario Kart? Yeah, wave race, wave race was 219 00:12:10,780 --> 00:12:14,860 wave race 60. 4 Cruise in USA I think was early enough. 220 00:12:14,860 --> 00:12:17,500 That was probably just a killer. Instinct was definitely one of 221 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:18,740 them. Awesome. 222 00:12:18,980 --> 00:12:20,060 Awesome. Yeah, Yeah. 223 00:12:20,060 --> 00:12:21,980 It's like Killer Instinct Gold too. 224 00:12:21,980 --> 00:12:24,060 So it was like this. Yeah, Yeah, it was. 225 00:12:24,060 --> 00:12:25,740 It was amazing. Probably. 226 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:26,820 Oh, yeah. So yeah, Like. 227 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Yeah, there wasn't that many Shadows of the Empire. 228 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Star Wars was a really early one. 229 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,640 And then Mortal Kombat trilogy, and that's kind of like the, you 230 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,560 know, not there wasn't that was it. 231 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,600 Yeah, that was it. So everybody and, you know in my 232 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,040 neighborhood was either playing Mario Kart 64 killer instant 233 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,560 Gold Wave Race 64. OK, fine. 234 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,600 And that's all dandy, but I tend to really love platformers. 235 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,880 I've always play platformers. I find I pride myself in being 236 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,440 pretty decent at them. So that's why this game really 237 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,040 means a lot to me, because it was literally right off my alley 238 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,170 and it was just such a great surprise to me first. 239 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:10,970 Does it? So does it? 240 00:13:11,010 --> 00:13:13,650 Does it still sort of feel that way now? 241 00:13:13,650 --> 00:13:16,170 Is it mostly off memory? Is it sort of like, have you 242 00:13:16,170 --> 00:13:18,810 played it since and have you played it enough since? 243 00:13:18,810 --> 00:13:20,610 Like, is it, is it mostly a nostalgia thing? 244 00:13:20,610 --> 00:13:22,850 Cuz And that's totally fair if it is, because believe me, 245 00:13:23,010 --> 00:13:26,930 there's lots of games. On like NES and Genesis and 246 00:13:26,930 --> 00:13:29,130 stuff that I've played that I pick up later. 247 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:31,930 I'm just like, I'd like this okay. 248 00:13:33,130 --> 00:13:37,930 Are you sure? Yeah, I would say for me, 249 00:13:39,330 --> 00:13:42,930 nostalgia is a hell of a drug for me. 250 00:13:43,050 --> 00:13:47,930 It hits so it's so bad for me. I haven't played this game 251 00:13:47,930 --> 00:13:54,050 probably in about 15 years, so I I'm I'm pretty sure I would love 252 00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:57,970 it still to this day, but I can't say for sure if like the 253 00:13:58,010 --> 00:14:00,210 mechanics still hold up and such. 254 00:14:01,570 --> 00:14:05,330 Again, I still play plenty of platformers today, so I'm still 255 00:14:05,330 --> 00:14:08,810 thinking I would love the experience as much. 256 00:14:09,650 --> 00:14:11,900 Well, it depends. There are some things about it 257 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:14,260 that I'm like, I don't know if I can handle it anymore because 258 00:14:14,260 --> 00:14:16,540 that game, there were some challenges with there for sure. 259 00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:18,100 What? What stuff stands out and what 260 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:19,700 stuff do you remember like that? What? 261 00:14:21,140 --> 00:14:25,420 So, so, the game. So I don't know if you haven't 262 00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:27,460 beaten the game yet, but. I did. 263 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:29,100 I did finish it. Oh, you did. 264 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:30,380 I did, Yeah. I did it. 265 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:32,420 Yeah. OK, awesome. 266 00:14:32,620 --> 00:14:37,610 So there's there's these gems you have to collect, and in each 267 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:40,890 stage there's gold gems, and they're either hidden or whatnot 268 00:14:40,930 --> 00:14:43,050 very well. They're harder to get, really. 269 00:14:43,250 --> 00:14:44,930 Yeah, they're so much harder to get. 270 00:14:45,170 --> 00:14:49,890 But with the bosses, you have to defeat the bosses without 271 00:14:49,890 --> 00:14:55,680 getting hit. And that part really, I don't 272 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,440 know if I have the patience anymore when I'm like 13 years 273 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,800 old. Yeah, I had the patience. 274 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,600 I had the skills. I had the reflexes to dodge 275 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,920 missiles and whatever they're throwing at me. 276 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,440 And and let's be honest, you had the time, the time at the time 277 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,320 too. So you know, that part really is 278 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,760 not the most appealing to me. I used to be more of a 279 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,920 completionist, and now that I'm a lot older, it's, you know 280 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,400 what, let me just get through the game. 281 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,040 But also a part of the game is you have to get all of the gold 282 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,000 gems in order to see the complete ending of the game. 283 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,720 And so that would bug me so much that I would get all these gems 284 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,320 and I'm missing one. And I don't know what happens at 285 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,360 the end, right? I do know what happens at the 286 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,800 end, but I'm just saying like as an adult, like it'd be nice to 287 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,600 see. Yeah, so, So I completed it and 288 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,690 I was going through the game. Not knowing this whole gem 289 00:15:48,690 --> 00:15:52,890 situation, I didn't. So for me cuz OK, so here's the 290 00:15:52,890 --> 00:15:56,290 other thing about doing shows like this and playing games, You 291 00:15:56,290 --> 00:15:59,410 know, either through emulation or on just a cartridge and 292 00:15:59,410 --> 00:16:02,770 stuff. I'm sure I could go and find the 293 00:16:02,770 --> 00:16:05,810 manual of this game online and flip through it and it would 294 00:16:05,810 --> 00:16:06,930 tell me. It would give me some 295 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:10,630 information, but. I tend to forget or I don't do 296 00:16:10,630 --> 00:16:12,350 it, cuz I'm just like, I'm just gonna jump into the game and 297 00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:15,350 just experience it, you know? Sort of like, yeah, like I'm 298 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:17,390 renting this game from Blockbuster and I'm just gonna 299 00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:19,910 play it for the week. That's kind of how I approach 300 00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:22,070 some of these, especially if it's like a single player 301 00:16:22,070 --> 00:16:24,190 platformer like this. I'm sitting there going. 302 00:16:24,670 --> 00:16:26,950 How complicated. I got this. 303 00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:29,510 I got it right. So that's. 304 00:16:29,830 --> 00:16:31,470 Yeah, sure. At least. 305 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:34,710 So I told myself and that's what I did with this. 306 00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:36,150 I was like, you know what, It'll be fine. 307 00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:38,510 I'll figure it out. I kind of remember playing this 308 00:16:38,510 --> 00:16:40,430 at a friend's place. I think I told you earlier that 309 00:16:40,430 --> 00:16:43,830 like, you know, one of our friends, family friends, she had 310 00:16:43,830 --> 00:16:46,190 a 64 and she was the only person. 311 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:48,950 This is the same person. If if anyone listens to the 312 00:16:48,950 --> 00:16:52,750 Yoshi Story episode, it's the same person that had Yoshi Story 313 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:56,680 and this game. And she has phenomenal taste. 314 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Right, and it was, but it's the only person I knew that had 315 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,240 those games outside of the typical Mario Kart and Zelda, 316 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,450 and those were sort of like her. Her side games or whatever you 317 00:17:11,450 --> 00:17:14,730 want to call them, like sort of like next tier down or whatever. 318 00:17:14,970 --> 00:17:17,650 Anyways, I play them at the same household and that's the only 319 00:17:17,650 --> 00:17:19,450 experience I have at this game. And I was like, OK, I kind of 320 00:17:19,450 --> 00:17:22,130 remember these early levels. I remember the shake, shake of 321 00:17:22,130 --> 00:17:23,210 course. Like how could you not? 322 00:17:23,369 --> 00:17:27,530 How could you not times throughout the game, right, 323 00:17:27,770 --> 00:17:30,530 exactly. So like all those things, I was 324 00:17:30,570 --> 00:17:34,010 like, OK, I got this and I went into it and I found a couple of 325 00:17:34,010 --> 00:17:36,960 those gold gems and. I, you know, picked them up. 326 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,280 I'm like, oh, it's giving me a bunch of health. 327 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,640 Great, cool. They're sort of like getting 50 328 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,760 coins at once or something. That's kind of what it feels, 329 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,560 exactly. Yeah. 330 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,200 Did I know that it had anything to do with the ending or the 331 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,440 bosses or? Nope. 332 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:50,920 I had. No. 333 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,080 Did I know that it was counting how many I had? 334 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,880 I had no idea. I didn't know There was like an 335 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,520 overall tally. I was just like, sure I got two 336 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,710 of them. On this stage, great. 337 00:18:00,870 --> 00:18:01,790 Cool. I found it. 338 00:18:02,830 --> 00:18:05,830 So when I and then the bosses like, no chance I'm going 339 00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:07,030 without getting hit. Like, no. 340 00:18:07,070 --> 00:18:07,590 No way. Right. 341 00:18:07,790 --> 00:18:11,230 Exactly. That was like top tier get good 342 00:18:11,230 --> 00:18:13,030 gaming back then. Like, I'm not. 343 00:18:13,230 --> 00:18:15,670 And I did it. It was like one of the changes 344 00:18:15,870 --> 00:18:18,710 of my damn life. I got all the gems in this game. 345 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:21,510 I know the ending. I thought you knew the ending 346 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:25,150 because you looked it up. I say no, this is a personal 347 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:27,030 experience. Oh my God. 348 00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:30,210 Team Blanco was really good at this. 349 00:18:30,850 --> 00:18:33,130 I mean, it took blood, sweat, and tears. 350 00:18:33,410 --> 00:18:37,650 A lot of tears, but I got it. But if I were to do it now, no 351 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:38,690 way. No way. 352 00:18:39,050 --> 00:18:39,650 I have. Yeah. 353 00:18:40,090 --> 00:18:41,930 Yeah. And some of the boss fights are 354 00:18:41,930 --> 00:18:45,090 pretty interesting. I found the, I found them kind 355 00:18:45,090 --> 00:18:48,210 of funny because there was one. I I think it's the second or 356 00:18:48,210 --> 00:18:51,850 third world, I think is what they call them, where you're 357 00:18:51,850 --> 00:18:54,170 sort of in like the lava and you're underground. 358 00:18:54,330 --> 00:18:55,570 Oh, yes, yes. Yeah. 359 00:18:55,810 --> 00:18:58,370 I talked with a bull. Yeah, a bull, but he like comes 360 00:18:58,370 --> 00:19:00,650 out of the lava and. I thought it was. 361 00:19:01,050 --> 00:19:02,170 I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. 362 00:19:02,170 --> 00:19:04,290 This feels like other games, but they're sort of doing their own 363 00:19:04,290 --> 00:19:05,730 thing with it. We have to grab them and stuff. 364 00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:09,210 But it's so funny the way that they implement the grabbing and 365 00:19:09,210 --> 00:19:12,370 punching sort of mechanic because you basically make him 366 00:19:12,370 --> 00:19:15,850 just punch himself over and over and he gets like all dizzy. 367 00:19:15,850 --> 00:19:18,130 And then you hit him and I'm just like, this is hilarious. 368 00:19:18,370 --> 00:19:22,130 Like that's what they're doing because she never kicks anyone. 369 00:19:22,330 --> 00:19:25,050 You know, you can throw bombs and things like that, like, but 370 00:19:25,050 --> 00:19:27,210 it's not. It's all cartoon violence, which 371 00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:28,490 fair enough. It's sort of anime and 372 00:19:28,490 --> 00:19:31,050 everything. But just the fact that, yeah, 373 00:19:31,050 --> 00:19:33,410 just the fact that you're literally throwing a fist at the 374 00:19:33,410 --> 00:19:36,170 back at this guy's face, I was like, this is great, This is so 375 00:19:36,170 --> 00:19:37,970 funny. So this ear, that's what I'm 376 00:19:38,410 --> 00:19:40,690 saying. Yeah, I really enjoyed enjoying 377 00:19:40,770 --> 00:19:43,290 sort of some of those silly elements of it. 378 00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:45,330 It doesn't take itself seriously. 379 00:19:45,330 --> 00:19:50,310 It's a little too over the. Top anime kind of thing for me, 380 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:53,070 which is not usually my bread and butter. 381 00:19:53,310 --> 00:19:56,910 So I think you know it just is you know that is what it is. 382 00:19:56,910 --> 00:19:59,230 That's a very personal thing. Not everyone has that 383 00:19:59,230 --> 00:20:00,870 experience. I'm not sure about yourself, but 384 00:20:01,150 --> 00:20:05,350 you know, I was like sometimes I was like, what is going on here 385 00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:07,790 and why I don't I would. I wanna. 386 00:20:07,910 --> 00:20:12,470 You know that the whole anime thing, like I I think I also 387 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:15,750 read that they weren't sure that this like type of material would 388 00:20:15,790 --> 00:20:20,500 even mesh well with the like North American audience. 389 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:25,740 But I will say what was really weird is like, this guy is like 390 00:20:26,580 --> 00:20:29,620 80 years old and he's kind of like thirsty for this. 391 00:20:31,220 --> 00:20:32,940 Oh my God. Is this OK? 392 00:20:33,140 --> 00:20:35,300 Is this OK? No, it's not. 393 00:20:38,220 --> 00:20:40,580 Well, you know, when you're like 14 years old, you're like, OK, 394 00:20:40,580 --> 00:20:42,980 this is like, it's just the game, fine. 395 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:45,940 But like, when you look at it with adult eyes, it's like the 396 00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:50,020 pervy professor that like, I don't even know what he wants to 397 00:20:50,020 --> 00:20:53,700 do with her, but like, OK, you just shake it off and play the 398 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:55,460 game. Like, literally shake it off. 399 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:58,140 Literally, literally say shake, shake and keep going. 400 00:20:58,220 --> 00:20:59,660 Yeah. Like, why are you saving this 401 00:20:59,660 --> 00:21:01,020 guy? Like, why you saving him? 402 00:21:01,020 --> 00:21:04,300 He's a creep. Like what you doing, not just 403 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:05,420 creep. Such a creep. 404 00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:07,380 And it's right off the bat too, right? 405 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:10,660 Like I didn't. I did not remember that part at 406 00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:11,860 all. But it's like literally the 407 00:21:11,860 --> 00:21:13,850 opening. I guess you could call it 408 00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:16,930 cinematic before you even press start to play the game. 409 00:21:17,090 --> 00:21:20,970 It's him like creeping behind her being like ooh with like his 410 00:21:20,970 --> 00:21:23,450 hands. Like, what the fuck is happening 411 00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:24,210 this? She knows. 412 00:21:24,210 --> 00:21:26,610 She knows that, and she's not about that life. 413 00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:29,530 So she, like, throws him away. 100% smart enough to know. 414 00:21:29,850 --> 00:21:31,090 Yeah, like she's. Smart enough. 415 00:21:31,090 --> 00:21:33,730 She's badass enough. She has a she has the abilities. 416 00:21:34,050 --> 00:21:36,130 You know, all that is great. I I like that. 417 00:21:36,130 --> 00:21:39,290 Like, she's great. But why bother saving this guy? 418 00:21:39,290 --> 00:21:43,030 He's not. He's he's is your creator, I 419 00:21:43,030 --> 00:21:45,630 guess, is sort of the story. So OK, there's some sort of like 420 00:21:46,110 --> 00:21:48,350 Frankenstein attachment thing to it maybe or something. 421 00:21:48,430 --> 00:21:48,950 I don't know. Sure. 422 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:53,270 But I don't know. Loyalty to a fault, honestly. 423 00:21:53,550 --> 00:21:56,590 There you go. There's the appeal here, girl. 424 00:21:56,910 --> 00:21:59,110 I don't know, man. And then when you get to the 425 00:21:59,150 --> 00:22:01,990 end. I don't know. 426 00:22:02,430 --> 00:22:06,630 So I didn't get a certain like full ending or whatever, but it 427 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:08,150 is related to what we're talking about. 428 00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:12,990 So I think I look this up, but I think the full ending is just as 429 00:22:12,990 --> 00:22:16,480 creepy and just as weird. It's awful. 430 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,360 I almost wish I didn't get the last gem. 431 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,200 It was like, what is happening here? 432 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,440 He's still being a perv and he has like little, like Booger in 433 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,880 his nose and he's like booming at the mouth as she, I mean at 434 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,200 spoilers, you know, she turns into like a real girl and he's 435 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,170 still like. Yeah, so it's OK. 436 00:22:37,170 --> 00:22:38,810 So that's the other thing. The way you phrase it. 437 00:22:38,810 --> 00:22:40,850 I don't know why I thought like Frankenstein, when really I 438 00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:42,850 should have just said Pinocchio. Because when you say. 439 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:46,050 Yeah, when you say real girls like Oh yeah, real boy like 440 00:22:46,050 --> 00:22:48,690 Pinocchio. So essentially what happens is 441 00:22:48,690 --> 00:22:51,370 you save him at a certain point and then you go back to your 442 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:55,130 house or his house or whatever it is and using the gems that 443 00:22:55,130 --> 00:22:57,650 you've collected if you have all of them, I think this is what it 444 00:22:57,650 --> 00:23:01,410 is. Is you, is she turns into. 445 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:05,790 Multiple stages or a certain version of a I don't know if it 446 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:09,990 depends how many gems you have, but the the the play, the long 447 00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:13,390 play that I watched when there was like one or two gems left, 448 00:23:13,390 --> 00:23:16,390 she turned into a girl, but it was only half girl, half robot 449 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:19,790 still, and then another and then another gem was used and then 450 00:23:19,790 --> 00:23:23,030 she turned into what was supposed to be a full girl. 451 00:23:23,810 --> 00:23:27,530 And he's like super excited. And he's like, yeah, he's like, 452 00:23:27,610 --> 00:23:29,410 yeah, like you said, he's like drooling or something. 453 00:23:29,410 --> 00:23:32,090 It's so fucking creepy and weird. 454 00:23:32,570 --> 00:23:34,850 And then it's like, game over. Like, wait, what? 455 00:23:35,010 --> 00:23:36,490 Yeah, that's it. That's it, Doug. 456 00:23:36,490 --> 00:23:40,330 It's like, oh, OK, well, was it worth it? 457 00:23:40,650 --> 00:23:43,370 To me it was, But not because of the ending, just because of the 458 00:23:43,370 --> 00:23:46,130 satisfaction of knowing, OK, there's nothing left to do in 459 00:23:46,130 --> 00:23:48,530 this game, you know, Right. Just for that. 460 00:23:48,570 --> 00:23:50,690 Only I could have totally done without that. 461 00:23:51,570 --> 00:23:54,130 I honestly, I think a lot of people could have, let's be 462 00:23:54,130 --> 00:23:55,890 honest, it's. I hope so. 463 00:23:56,370 --> 00:23:57,170 Yeah, I hope. Yeah, I sure. 464 00:23:57,170 --> 00:24:00,690 I sure as hell hope so. It's just so weird because the 465 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:03,530 journey to get to that point, whether you get all the gems or 466 00:24:03,530 --> 00:24:07,850 you don't, is is pretty, you know, full-fledged. 467 00:24:07,850 --> 00:24:09,730 There's a lot of different mechanics. 468 00:24:09,730 --> 00:24:12,930 They're really random. Honestly, like some stuff that 469 00:24:12,930 --> 00:24:16,570 you do makes no fucking sense. I have no idea like early in the 470 00:24:16,570 --> 00:24:19,070 game. You pick up one of the little 471 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:22,670 guys, which by the way, the guys that are the the enemies and the 472 00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:24,710 ones that you're going to save like the sort of like ghost fit, 473 00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:26,790 like they look like Ghostface, the clansers. 474 00:24:27,070 --> 00:24:29,070 Yeah, they look like Ghostface and scream. 475 00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:30,150 That's what they look like for me. 476 00:24:30,190 --> 00:24:34,550 Like, that's so to me. They look creepy. 477 00:24:34,550 --> 00:24:36,070 So sweet. Come on. 478 00:24:37,030 --> 00:24:39,150 Some of them are, some of them are. 479 00:24:39,230 --> 00:24:42,390 They also look like they're like, in pain. 480 00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:45,420 Yeah. Yeah, either they're in pain or 481 00:24:45,420 --> 00:24:47,140 they're hiding a knife in their back pocket. 482 00:24:47,140 --> 00:24:48,820 I don't know which one, it's one of those two. 483 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:53,300 So, but you know, at one point you pick one of them up and then 484 00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:55,300 you shake them. It says, oh shake me and it 485 00:24:55,300 --> 00:24:57,660 turns into like this giant like block of mech. 486 00:24:58,060 --> 00:24:59,700 Oh yeah, totally. Yeah. 487 00:25:00,220 --> 00:25:04,140 Yeah, yeah, That's awesome. Yeah, it's pretty cool because 488 00:25:04,140 --> 00:25:05,380 you're doing something different. 489 00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:08,100 Like, there's a lot of different ideas in this game, which is 490 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:09,060 really fun. Oh yeah. 491 00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:12,980 Why it's happening and why this guy just needs to be shaken to 492 00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:15,660 turn into basically a transformer, I have no idea. 493 00:25:15,940 --> 00:25:20,100 But I'm like, all right, I'll go with it for the next like 45 494 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,220 seconds of the level, because really the levels are really 495 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:24,140 short and everything. So sure, yeah, I. 496 00:25:24,380 --> 00:25:27,220 Was so sure? Yeah, I mean, the game is like I 497 00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:30,380 I say it's like very chaotically cute. 498 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:33,260 Like there's just so much variety. 499 00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:36,440 There's just so much involved in the game. 500 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,200 Like, first you'll just be going from point A to B, then the next 501 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,640 stage you're riding on a Kitty, and then the next stage you're 502 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,720 on a missile, trying to balance it out with your pain, and then 503 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,800 you're on a bicycle. It's. 504 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,640 Just this is gonna say you're a little kid on a bike, on a bike. 505 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,400 It's just like, what? What is happening? 506 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,920 Although that stage is a pain in the ass, like that one has a 507 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,880 core memory, like has ingrained in my brain. 508 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,120 Yeah, but I think that's kind of why I like this, because it it 509 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,370 was so I never knew what to expect. 510 00:26:05,370 --> 00:26:07,770 The only thing I knew what to expect was to shake. 511 00:26:07,810 --> 00:26:09,370 Just shake. Freaking everything. 512 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:13,170 And it's it's not a bad mechanic. 513 00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:15,730 I kind of get the idea. And then and then you, like you 514 00:26:15,730 --> 00:26:16,930 have her gimmicky you. Know. 515 00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:17,690 Yeah. That's gimmicky. 516 00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:18,850 Yeah. Every once in a while it's like 517 00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:20,250 do I did I really need to do that. 518 00:26:20,290 --> 00:26:21,970 But yeah. And then you have the C buttons 519 00:26:21,970 --> 00:26:25,050 that you do with the with the for her boosters and stuff 520 00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:26,850 though those are cool. I just. 521 00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:29,690 I just wish that when I was playing it every once in a 522 00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:31,490 while. I think this is probably because 523 00:26:32,010 --> 00:26:34,930 you know you get used to. You know more modern games where 524 00:26:34,930 --> 00:26:38,050 they have mechanics that are similar to that, where a double 525 00:26:38,050 --> 00:26:43,170 jump or something like gives you a little bit of extra height or 526 00:26:43,170 --> 00:26:45,850 boost or more of what than what it gives you here. 527 00:26:46,170 --> 00:26:50,210 So it's almost like you have to do this combo of like up and 528 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:52,490 right if you want to get to a higher ledge on the right, you 529 00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:54,010 don't just press double jump, you know? 530 00:26:54,010 --> 00:26:55,850 You don't just press jump and OK. 531 00:26:56,170 --> 00:26:59,410 So it's it's sort of like this I it took me, I think the entire 532 00:26:59,410 --> 00:27:02,570 first world, which is not super long, but it took me a while to 533 00:27:02,570 --> 00:27:05,630 be like. OK, I I get how this works now 534 00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:09,710 because it's almost like the Jetpack is underpowered in some 535 00:27:09,710 --> 00:27:14,350 ways and only and I think it only feels that way because we 536 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:16,270 like I said, I think it's because we're used to other 537 00:27:16,270 --> 00:27:18,790 mechanics and newer generations of games. 538 00:27:18,790 --> 00:27:21,070 I think that's really it. I don't think that makes the 539 00:27:21,070 --> 00:27:23,430 game any worse. It does make it a little 540 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:25,590 frustrating sometimes because some of the jumps are a little 541 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:28,710 bit like lackluster. It feels and everything but. 542 00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:31,190 So what am I gonna do? Faults. 543 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:33,030 Yeah. Like, am I gonna fault 544 00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:36,310 something? A game that came out 2527 years 545 00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:37,870 ago. Like, I I get it. 546 00:27:38,030 --> 00:27:39,830 Like, I get it. That's what That's what I do 547 00:27:40,030 --> 00:27:42,910 feel like. I do feel like that is one of 548 00:27:42,910 --> 00:27:45,910 the cons that a lot of people mention that have actually 549 00:27:45,910 --> 00:27:49,190 played the game is is the is the movements. 550 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:52,670 They feel like a little bit stiff and it's and yes, like the 551 00:27:52,670 --> 00:27:55,670 first world is really like the whole tutorial. 552 00:27:55,670 --> 00:27:57,990 Like you really should pay attention on how what to do, 553 00:27:57,990 --> 00:28:01,190 because these are the moves that are gonna get you to get those 554 00:28:01,190 --> 00:28:04,590 gold gems to not get hit by the boss or whatnot. 555 00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:08,230 So like, I think they do a good job of teaching you how, but 556 00:28:08,270 --> 00:28:11,790 like to actually master it is that's a whole nother level. 557 00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:14,070 At least to me, it was. No, I agree. 558 00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:15,830 And that's and that's what it felt like, you know, Like I 559 00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:17,270 think I played when I was playing through it. 560 00:28:17,270 --> 00:28:19,430 I played like a world at a time sort of thing. 561 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:21,870 I sat there and they did. Half an hour here, an hour 562 00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:23,670 there, 45 minutes here, and it took. 563 00:28:24,430 --> 00:28:26,390 I don't know exactly how long it took, but took at least a few 564 00:28:26,390 --> 00:28:28,270 hours to get through the game and stuff with a, you know, 565 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:29,670 couple of replays and stuff like that. 566 00:28:29,670 --> 00:28:32,390 Not not too bad, honestly. Pretty good for for that. 567 00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:35,670 I feel like some of the boss battles lasted a little too 568 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:37,030 long. You have to hit them a little 569 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:39,710 like too many times. I was like, OK, I get it. 570 00:28:39,710 --> 00:28:41,510 I'm punching the bull five times in the face. 571 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:43,790 I get it. OK, OK, All right, 15 times. 572 00:28:43,790 --> 00:28:45,390 OK. All right. 25, you know, it's 573 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:47,510 just felt like a lot. It's a lot of like. 574 00:28:47,550 --> 00:28:50,310 It's a lot of like pattern recognition to you. 575 00:28:50,350 --> 00:28:52,250 Know it's yeah, it doesn't change. 576 00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:55,010 But you know, as you go along it does get like a little bit 577 00:28:55,010 --> 00:28:58,290 harder. I do remember the the bird 578 00:28:58,410 --> 00:29:00,410 Falco. Yes, the damn sore. 579 00:29:00,610 --> 00:29:05,490 My God, this this bird don't need bananas. 580 00:29:06,210 --> 00:29:08,410 Bananas. And and that was actually 581 00:29:08,410 --> 00:29:12,440 probably one of the last gems I could get because there was 582 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,080 number way I can get through that without getting hit. 583 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,760 It does like this, like spinning thing. 584 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,520 Oh, God, it's there's there's a lot. 585 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,440 Yeah, there's a lot of moves that are, yes, like you said, 586 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,440 pattern recognition. But every once in a while, for 587 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,040 some reason, like, OK, I played him a couple times like this one 588 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,560 in particular, actually know that you mentioned it. 589 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,800 I was like, OK, I played this a couple times. 590 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,720 I think I got it. And then somehow I didn't get 591 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,840 it. Like, I was just like, what is 592 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,680 going on with my mind? How did I not? 593 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,280 I knew that was going to happen. And yet here I am, sitting there 594 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,440 like an idiot. Like it's like that period where 595 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,370 you're like you've been playing for so long and you just start 596 00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:47,250 sucking more and then you're like, you know, let me just put 597 00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:49,090 it down for like a day and come back to. 598 00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:53,050 It, yeah, you get it. Well, yeah, and for someone who 599 00:29:53,050 --> 00:29:55,810 was such a completionist on this game, I can imagine that. 600 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:57,950 At the time, you probably have to, right? 601 00:29:57,950 --> 00:30:00,630 Like, there's no way you could just, oh 100%. 602 00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:03,670 But, you know, back then I totally had more time too. 603 00:30:03,670 --> 00:30:07,790 And I had more patience and I had more drive to actually want 604 00:30:07,790 --> 00:30:11,630 to put myself through that pain, not wanting, you know, to get 605 00:30:11,630 --> 00:30:13,110 hit. Like, yeah, I could beat the 606 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:17,030 boss, but take it up a notch and not get hit, yeah. 607 00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:19,070 I mean, that's that's impressive to me. 608 00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:21,230 That kind of stuff is really impressive in games in general. 609 00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:23,950 It's almost like like speed runs and stuff, like those types of 610 00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:25,190 things. I cannot. 611 00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:29,490 Wrap my head around, yeah, but, but, but I actually would say 612 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:33,170 that, you know, going through a game like this, not getting hit, 613 00:30:33,530 --> 00:30:36,130 collecting all these things is not that far off. 614 00:30:36,130 --> 00:30:39,010 Yeah, you could repeat it and it's not a quote UN quote speed 615 00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:41,570 run, but it's an impressive feat to be able to do. 616 00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:44,490 It doesn't matter when you do, it doesn't matter if you're 13 617 00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:48,570 or if you're 30, like it really doesn't matter some of these 618 00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:49,930 games, man. Like, you know, we just played 619 00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:53,400 Jeff Force Gemini and like. You have to in a similar way you 620 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,720 have to collect all the tribals to get like to get to the final 621 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,320 boss. And I'm like, I I can't do that. 622 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920 But that's this thing. I don't, I don't like games like 623 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360 that. They kind of like close off the 624 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,520 story until you collect everything. 625 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,520 I I don't like that. Like, give me the. 626 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,920 It's an option to get the gold gems in this game. 627 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,600 We said this, yeah, we said the same thing. 628 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,840 We said the same thing. It was just like. 629 00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:19,650 I want to get to the ending. I want to fight the final boss. 630 00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:22,610 I want to do this stuff, like I want to get to the end of this 631 00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:25,170 and I just, I'm not it's not happening. 632 00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:27,970 So I I watched it so like similar to this to watch the 633 00:31:27,970 --> 00:31:29,810 other ending. I watched the real ending and 634 00:31:29,810 --> 00:31:33,410 and Jet Forest and stuff too. But yeah, so I I think for the 635 00:31:33,410 --> 00:31:36,850 most part the game is good. It's just a little frustrating 636 00:31:36,850 --> 00:31:41,450 sometimes for me playing it past the first or past the Second 637 00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:43,690 World pretty much. I don't really remember anything 638 00:31:43,690 --> 00:31:47,510 past the Second World. Was cool to experience. 639 00:31:47,510 --> 00:31:50,670 So that was fun to go back to and be able to like, like, so 640 00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:55,230 It's so strange how this game I played so little of like 20-6 641 00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:59,510 years ago and I still remembered certain things like why? 642 00:31:59,510 --> 00:32:02,990 Like what? Well, like the almost the entire 643 00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:06,070 first world I remembered. Yeah, yeah, maybe that's very 644 00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:08,070 yes. Maybe I don't remember exactly 645 00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:11,320 what I needed to do. But like chasing the little kids 646 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,840 and and giving them back to their mom, all those those bad 647 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,240 kids. Yeah, and they're just like 648 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360 running in circles. I'm just like you stupid kids, 649 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,760 stop moving. Why are you jumping over fire? 650 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,160 This is ridiculous. I know. 651 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,840 Yeah, you know, like, hey mom, why don't you help out and like, 652 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600 at least call their name instead of just like standing there. 653 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,480 I'm like, that's like totally safe. 654 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:33,960 But OK, kids do. And then after that she's like, 655 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,120 oh, where's my husband? I'm like, Jesus, yeah, there's 656 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,040 gotta be a reason why Who's running away from you. 657 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,480 But I. Oh my God. 658 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880 I mean, yay. She's just trying to be really 659 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,080 nice. She's a nice, she's a nice robot 660 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,120 hero. I get it. 661 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,600 You know, or Android, you know, I get it. 662 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,320 But like those things, somehow I remembered. 663 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,240 Of course, like I said before, I remember the shake. 664 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,640 Shake like before I turned the game on, I just remembered that. 665 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,720 That tone. So you can't forget it. 666 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,480 You cannot forget it. I think that's probably like one 667 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,640 of my gripes about the game. As adorable as that Shake Shake 668 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:15,560 is, I I do wish that they added a little bit more voices. 669 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,120 A little bit. You know what? 670 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,960 And all that stuff. That's cute. 671 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,680 But the Shake Shake. Give me something else. 672 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,760 Man, yeah. And then when you finish some of 673 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,360 the levels, like the bosses and stuff, she's like woo Hoo like 674 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,640 little things like that. Oh yeah, yeah. 675 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Yeah, that's cute, actually. Really like that? 676 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:33,570 I like it too. I thought it was. 677 00:33:33,610 --> 00:33:34,730 I thought it was. And she does like a little, 678 00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:36,610 like, pose. She almost does, you know, a 679 00:33:36,610 --> 00:33:38,930 little like dance and just pose thing. 680 00:33:39,370 --> 00:33:41,970 Yeah, it's yeah, she does that. Whatever the kids call that. 681 00:33:41,970 --> 00:33:43,090 I don't know what it is. I'm too old now. 682 00:33:43,090 --> 00:33:43,650 I don't know. I. 683 00:33:43,690 --> 00:33:46,010 Can't remember what it's called but that's kind of what it looks 684 00:33:46,010 --> 00:33:49,730 like and and those things. But yeah, a little bit of 685 00:33:49,730 --> 00:33:52,970 something you know like let's say you it's hard. 686 00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:55,330 I mean, we're we don't make games, we're not programmers. 687 00:33:55,330 --> 00:33:58,770 We don't know, but not at all. Yeah, like, let's say you, you 688 00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:01,370 know. Throw an enemy off the stage and 689 00:34:01,370 --> 00:34:04,490 she would just like, do a little cheer or something like that. 690 00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:06,370 You know, like something small, like it would be kind of fun. 691 00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:09,489 But anything just a shake, shake all day. 692 00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:11,050 And you know what? Like this game. 693 00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:15,210 So most of the games that we know for like Nintendo 64 are 694 00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:17,650 like more of that 3D. So they're using the hardware 695 00:34:17,650 --> 00:34:21,560 right. But this game is too 2.5, I 696 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,239 guess, because it's kind of 3D, but not really. 697 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,719 So I feel like they weren't even using all of the power of the 698 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,320 Nintendo 64, so maybe maybe they're cutting back on funds, I 699 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,360 don't know. Yeah, but they could have done a 700 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,639 little bit more with it. It's it's a it's a like, it's a 701 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,560 platformer. It wasn't like a 3D open world 702 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,000 kind of game. So I feel like they did have 703 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,920 space to kind of play with it more, maybe be a little bit 704 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,739 more, you know, with the voice acting and such, but it's not 705 00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:51,820 bad. But I feel like they could have 706 00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:54,139 done. Yeah, give me a little more than 707 00:34:54,420 --> 00:34:57,980 I think. You know, yeah, yeah, I think 708 00:34:57,980 --> 00:35:00,300 that's my complaint. No, hey, fair enough. 709 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:04,260 Hey, it is what it is. I think part of it. 710 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:06,500 It's so strange cuz some of the games I've played already, and 711 00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:08,740 I'm sure ones that I'll play as I continue. 712 00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:15,180 It seems like early games in the first like 2 years, 9697. 713 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,560 Unless it was a Nintendo developed game like Mario 64 or 714 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,160 like Zelda for example. Like it seems like that they, 715 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,440 the developers had so much less to work with and less 716 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,560 information. And it's really like, you know, 717 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,760 I think that restricted a little bit of what they feel like they 718 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,240 could have pulled off because Jeff Force Gemini, for example, 719 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,000 was out three years after this game or 2 1/2 years after this 720 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,840 game and. It does way more with the music 721 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,560 it does. It doesn't have really all that 722 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,760 many voices as a few, but it does so much with the music and 723 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,880 so much with the sort of like shooting mechanics and all 724 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,480 these. Yeah, it's a different game, but 725 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,480 there's so much more going on in it. 726 00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:00,880 I don't know that that game could have been made in 97, like 727 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480 this one was like, I don't know if it could have. 728 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000 And I'm just, you know, grasping at straws here. 729 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,560 I don't really know 100%, but it feels like when I look up the 730 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,520 development of these games and I look up. 731 00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:16,810 The year that they're released, like if a game is starting to be 732 00:36:16,810 --> 00:36:20,370 developed in 98 and comes out in 2000 and then this one started 733 00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:24,450 to be developed in 95, yeah, it's, it's tough, right? 734 00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:26,370 You can't. I agree. 735 00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:28,970 I wish there was more. I don't disagree with you at 736 00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:30,730 all. I think it would like elevate 737 00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:33,770 the game for sure. I just almost wish that the game 738 00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:37,250 came out in 98 or in 99 and it would have had that, I think 739 00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:41,540 true, true true, and and from what I know, like the guys that 740 00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:43,140 made this, I think it's treasure. 741 00:36:43,420 --> 00:36:48,500 I think it's like literally like such a small group of people who 742 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:52,500 probably had to wear like many hats to develop this game and 743 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,540 such. So, and it's funny, like those 744 00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:57,340 guys they worked for, I think Konami. 745 00:36:57,780 --> 00:36:59,900 Yeah. So a few of them did, yeah, 746 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:03,900 yeah, they were like working on like Castlemania and Freaking 747 00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:06,380 Contra and stuff. And they also made Gun Star 748 00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:09,460 Heroes, which is, which is Have you ever played Gun Star Heroes? 749 00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:11,380 I I've dabbled in it. I've dabbled in it, yeah. 750 00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:14,540 Yeah, it's so good. And you can kind of see like 751 00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:18,460 some of the influence from there in this game, like the throwing, 752 00:37:18,460 --> 00:37:20,940 the gun shooting. It's a run and gun type of game. 753 00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:24,060 So I actually appreciated that. Not that I knew that back then, 754 00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:25,980 but I was like oh, that's so freaking cool. 755 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:28,500 Like the same team kind of brought this here. 756 00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:31,870 But back to the point is that they're a small team, small 757 00:37:31,870 --> 00:37:34,070 developers. They do the best that they can. 758 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:37,270 Yeah, that's why I can't really give them, like too much crap 759 00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:39,750 about like, oh, give me another phrase, you know, like. 760 00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:44,830 Still, it's just it's because you have so much love for the 761 00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:47,870 game that you want as much as you could possibly get out of 762 00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:49,390 it, right? That's kind of kind of how it is 763 00:37:49,390 --> 00:37:51,790 and that's totally fair. I mean, I've had that with with 764 00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:54,950 other games too, where like you know, Diddy Kong Racing is a 765 00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:59,620 great game in my opinion. But, but do I wish there was 766 00:37:59,620 --> 00:38:01,180 like, more characters or more tracks? 767 00:38:01,180 --> 00:38:03,500 Yes, sure, fine. But that's because I love the 768 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:04,700 game and I just want to keep playing it. 769 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,460 Like, that's why. Yeah, exactly. 770 00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:08,860 Doesn't mean it's a bad game, doesn't mean you like it any 771 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:10,900 less. It's just, yeah, I mean, yeah, 772 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:13,300 we can have like gripes about a game. 773 00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:14,940 It doesn't mean that all it's terrible. 774 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:16,700 You know, like I said, like what games? 775 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,700 A 10 out of 10, you know what I mean? 776 00:38:18,820 --> 00:38:22,710 Especially on the 60 four. And yeah, yeah, that's a whole. 777 00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:29,590 That's another podcast, guys. But I also feel like the reason 778 00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:34,070 I kind of gravitated to this game is because it and I know 779 00:38:34,070 --> 00:38:36,630 it's Nintendo 64, so we're supposed to kind of move 780 00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:42,290 forward, but it kind of reminded me of a lot of Super Nintendo 781 00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:44,250 platformers. I guess. 782 00:38:45,370 --> 00:38:49,570 And so, like I did, I did enjoy Super Mario 64. 783 00:38:49,570 --> 00:38:51,970 I did. But I played that game like a 784 00:38:51,970 --> 00:38:56,770 few months ago and I hated it. I hated it. 785 00:38:56,930 --> 00:38:58,330 I said there's too much happening. 786 00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:03,440 I just wanna go left to right, almost like that's just where I 787 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,720 thrive. And so, like, it just reminded 788 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:07,520 me of those Super Nintendo platformers. 789 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640 You know, like Mega Man. I thought it was Mega Man's 790 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,160 girlfriend when I first saw this shit. 791 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,240 Hey, that's totally fair. That's totally fair. 792 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:15,400 I would. I could see that. 793 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,480 Yeah. I I mean, you know what? 794 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,440 All right, I I enjoy Mega Man games, but man, I suck at them. 795 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,560 I am so bad at fuck at them. So they kick my ass all the 796 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,520 time. It doesn't matter which one it 797 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,760 is. I think I had. 798 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:31,900 X or X2? I don't remember exactly how 799 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:34,980 they did it for Super Indo. I had one of them where you can 800 00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:37,380 play. My God, this is terrible. 801 00:39:37,380 --> 00:39:38,860 What's the guy with the sword? Is it 0? 802 00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:40,580 Is his name zero? Yeah. 803 00:39:40,780 --> 00:39:42,460 Yeah, you or you could play a Sam. 804 00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:45,020 I was like oh cool, I got a Mega Man guy with a sword like that's 805 00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:48,060 or or a blade or whatever. That's kind of why I liked it. 806 00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:49,820 But did I ever beat it? Probably not. 807 00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:53,300 I probably beat like 3 bosses and they were like so murder. 808 00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:54,980 Murder. And they're supposed to be this 809 00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:57,460 supposed to be difficult. So yeah, like they have. 810 00:39:57,740 --> 00:39:59,860 They've historically always been hard. 811 00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:02,420 Like, oh, my little Mega Man steer, by the way. 812 00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:04,220 Oh, I just broke him. But he's here. 813 00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:06,700 Oh, yeah. Hey, nice. 814 00:40:07,060 --> 00:40:11,580 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, like I played two a 815 00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:15,620 few months ago and I was like, oh, how the hell did we do this 816 00:40:15,620 --> 00:40:17,860 back? Yeah, it's just so damn hard. 817 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:21,260 You know, yeah, I agree. And this, like you said, I think 818 00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:24,100 Mischief Makers has aspects of those of those games. 819 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:26,620 Like you can see that there's influence there, you can see 820 00:40:26,620 --> 00:40:30,260 that there's similar ideas. And yeah, OK, the core mechanic 821 00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:32,940 of like grabbing something and throwing it I think is pretty 822 00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:35,220 cool and different and I like that. 823 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:39,030 I had that, yeah, but but the other like the actual like 824 00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:42,110 jumping and the boosting and things like that, like, yeah, it 825 00:40:42,110 --> 00:40:45,310 feels like a 2D platformer from a couple years prior that would 826 00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:46,910 have been on their previous console. 827 00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:49,550 And that's not a bad thing because like we both said, the 828 00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:52,550 SNDS is fucking amazing. So that's all good. 829 00:40:53,310 --> 00:40:55,870 Amazing, amazing. And I think that's where I was 830 00:40:55,870 --> 00:40:57,590 like thriving. I was like, oh, this is just 831 00:40:57,590 --> 00:41:03,030 like a a glorified 16 bit, you know, a game on, like on my new 832 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:05,190 system. So I'm just gonna rock out and 833 00:41:05,390 --> 00:41:09,630 have no complaints and and and you kicked its butt, so there 834 00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:12,630 you go. It's awesome. 835 00:41:12,670 --> 00:41:15,030 I I really think it's such. I don't even want to say it's 836 00:41:15,070 --> 00:41:18,470 underrated, but it's it's more like like. 837 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,040 I don't even know. It's I unappreciated. 838 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,960 I think yeah. Yeah and I yeah, exactly. 839 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,760 I I don't think it's a home run personally for the like the 840 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,640 gameplay wise and like there's there's aspects of it where I'm 841 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,240 like, OK, you know I don't love this, but I don't think that 842 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:37,160 it's a game that people should avoid either. 843 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,200 So I think it's a really good sort of like for me it's it 844 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,640 feels like, and again, I'm not far into the library of the 845 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,960 games as of this recording, but it doesn't really matter. 846 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,720 Like, I feel like it's gonna be somewhere in the middle, you 847 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:48,480 know? I feel like it's gonna be 848 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,360 somewhere in the middle for me. And that's totally fine. 849 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,400 That's it. It is what it is, and it's. 850 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,320 At least top ten. Well, you have so many to go. 851 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,400 So that's the thing. Yeah, yeah. 852 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,840 Wait, just wait. Wait a couple decades before I 853 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,310 get through this entire library. I guess it's again. 854 00:42:07,550 --> 00:42:10,830 Yeah, yeah, me too. But there's, you know, there's 855 00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:15,070 there's lots of, there's not that many 2D platformers at this 856 00:42:15,070 --> 00:42:17,430 point. And this is going to be probably 857 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:22,350 one of the definitely one of the more unique ones for sure and on 858 00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:24,150 a lot of different in a lot of different ways. 859 00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:26,910 And. And that's enough for me. 860 00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:29,350 Is, is that right? It's unique, it's 2D. 861 00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:31,670 It doesn't always have to be the same as everything else, just 862 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:35,100 cuz you have 64 bits. So then you have to go 3D and 863 00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:38,180 for the most part I think they did a pretty good job with it, 864 00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:40,980 so. Thank you. 865 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:43,180 Let's get mischief, makers. It's flowers. 866 00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:45,100 You know, I do have one question though. 867 00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:48,220 Yeah. What do you think about using 868 00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:51,900 the D pad as opposed to the sticks right being that? 869 00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:55,500 It's on. You know Nintendo 64, So here's 870 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,460 yeah. So the fact that it's on 64 and 871 00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:01,100 they didn't use it feels strange because it's like, why wouldn't 872 00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:04,960 you just utilize what you have? But I also am this type of 873 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,320 player, and this is probably because I have a had a Super 874 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,080 Nintendo, played a lot of NES at Friends Places and Genesis, and 875 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,080 when there is a 2D platformer even nowadays, like even 876 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,080 difficult ones like Celeste and Dead Cells and things like that, 877 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,920 like those. I mean, it's not quite a 878 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,880 platform, but you know what I mean? 879 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,040 Those types of games, even if it's a new Mario game, even when 880 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,830 the new one comes out for Switch, when it can't wait, when 881 00:43:33,830 --> 00:43:37,230 it comes out, if it allows me to use the D pad, I will default to 882 00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:39,310 a D pad on a 2D plane for a game. 883 00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:43,590 So totally I'm totally yeah I am totally fine with it in this 884 00:43:43,590 --> 00:43:45,510 game. It doesn't bother me not 885 00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:49,750 utilizing 2 of the more unique aspects. 886 00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:53,950 I would say of the 64 controller is a little odd like nose nosey 887 00:43:53,950 --> 00:43:57,700 or zed button. No joystick to fine, yeah, but 888 00:43:57,860 --> 00:44:01,380 as I'm playing it, I'm not sad about it either. 889 00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:03,780 So it's. Like, man, I can't use the, 890 00:44:04,660 --> 00:44:06,140 can't use the stick, all that stuff. 891 00:44:06,140 --> 00:44:08,220 Yeah, and I don't know what it is. 892 00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:12,100 Maybe because it's a 2D plane like my mind goes to. 893 00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:14,890 Well, I don't need to go diagonal because it's on a TV 894 00:44:14,890 --> 00:44:18,610 flag, so that's why I never I I usually never use a joystick 895 00:44:18,610 --> 00:44:21,610 unless, like the game really wants you to for certain 896 00:44:21,610 --> 00:44:23,770 maneuvers or something. OK, fair enough, that's fine. 897 00:44:23,770 --> 00:44:26,250 I can probably pull it off better with a joystick no matter 898 00:44:26,250 --> 00:44:30,730 what console it's on. But I I just my mind has a hard 899 00:44:30,730 --> 00:44:35,370 time wrapping itself around. This is just old me, old man 900 00:44:35,370 --> 00:44:37,610 yelling at cloud you. Know old us? 901 00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:41,680 Yeah, just you know what I think exactly. 902 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,280 So I think that's part of it. So yeah. 903 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,600 So yeah, it's a little strange, but didn't bother me. 904 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:47,560 Didn't bother me. I don't. 905 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,040 Know. Yeah. 906 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,480 It's not like game breaking or anything of the sort. 907 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,000 Actually, it don't makes it's not a problem at all. 908 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,680 But I know people are like little bits on the Nintendo 64. 909 00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,520 How come we're not using? You know what I mean? 910 00:44:59,350 --> 00:45:03,350 Well, one of my favorite 64 games and and games in general 911 00:45:03,350 --> 00:45:06,150 of all time is WWF. No Mercy. 912 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:10,950 I just love mercy, love that game so much that uses the D pad 913 00:45:11,230 --> 00:45:15,590 on a 3D game and it never crosses my mind that it's a 914 00:45:15,590 --> 00:45:18,630 problem. Never was then, isn't now, and I 915 00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:21,430 will play that game for days on end. 916 00:45:21,470 --> 00:45:24,230 I absolutely love it and that's. Awesome. 917 00:45:24,510 --> 00:45:26,350 It's not a problem. So it is. 918 00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:28,070 It's fine. It's totally fine. 919 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:30,860 It's all good. That's all I need to hear. 920 00:45:33,020 --> 00:45:37,500 Well, I wanna say thank you for coming on and bringing this 921 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,020 game. Honestly, when I get to play 922 00:45:40,020 --> 00:45:42,660 something that is this unique, when I get to play something I 923 00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:46,380 have very little experience in and someone, like I said, it's 924 00:45:46,420 --> 00:45:48,260 off the top of someone that's passionate about it. 925 00:45:48,980 --> 00:45:50,500 Thank you. Thank you for bringing it more 926 00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:54,260 to the forefront. No, I'm proud to be a Mischief 927 00:45:54,260 --> 00:45:59,010 Makers Ambassador. And I hope if you can get your 928 00:45:59,010 --> 00:46:01,810 hands on this game that people actually give it a chance, 929 00:46:01,810 --> 00:46:05,210 especially if you really appreciate platformers. 930 00:46:11,890 --> 00:46:07,490 Nice. I think personally it's in my 931 00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:11,250 top 10 on Nintendo 64. Amazing hands out for me. 932 00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:14,690 So much for having me. 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