1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,240 You're just an old. Chameleon Mackie A billion, my 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,200 friend. You're a bad, bad, bad. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,640 Chameleon Now who do you think you're looking at? 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,520 Chameleon sunglasses at Hills Department stores. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,800 They can change your whole outlook. 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,440 Welcome to Remember 64, where this week we fall down a rabbit 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:45,880 hole of adventure. Welcome to the show, everyone, 8 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,000 whether this is your first episode or you are a returning 9 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,280 listener. My name is David Pitrangelo and 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,600 I'm just a little blue lizard chilling in the forest. 11 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Oh, is that a rabbit with a tux? And he seems to be late for a 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,760 very important date. Oh, I'm going to follow him for 13 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,280 sure. This can't get weird. 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Not at all. Well, if any of that makes any 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,400 sense to you, then you might have guessed that yes, this week 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,560 we are playing 1997's Chameleon Twist. 17 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,280 And if you're wondering what the heck that was at the start of 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,960 the episode, I had a really hard time finding commercials or 19 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,960 clips that had any kind of audio other than just soundtrack and 20 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,720 sound effects from the game. So I looked up Chameleon on 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,480 YouTube and found a commercial for Chameleon Sunglasses. 22 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,320 So they have nothing to do with this game or with this franchise 23 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:42,320 in any way whatsoever. But yeah, I mean, I did what I 24 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:47,960 could in just a few moments. I will be joined by Danny from 25 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,480 Retro Wars once again. Yeah, we spun the wheel of N64 26 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,320 games last time we were together and landed on this platformer. 27 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,880 And here we are. Check back on other episodes 28 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,480 we've also done together, including Mario Golf, Mortal 29 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,800 Kombat 4, and Duck Dodgers. All right, let's bust out the 30 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,320 history books, everyone. I'm landing. 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,320 We're heading back 25 years to December 9th, 1997. 32 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Chameleon Twist was developed by Japan System Supply and 33 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,680 published by Sunsoft. Now at this point in time in the 34 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,080 mid to late 90s, Sunsoft will mostly be familiar to people 35 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,440 that had an SNES for example, as they had their hands in a number 36 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,320 of platformers over the years. Japan System Supply may not be 37 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,240 the most recognizable name to some, but that little cat logo 38 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:41,520 that meows to start the game, at least for me, somehow flipped a 39 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,360 little bit of a nostalgia switch that I did not expect. 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,400 I don't think I played many of their games, but just this one 41 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,560 maybe. Anyways, they set up shop making 42 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,200 educational based software. Over the years it created a 43 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,640 number of Japan only releases on the Gameboy, Amiga 500, Famicom, 44 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Sega Saturn and a couple more. Chameleon Twist and its sequel 45 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,920 were some of the few that were also released around the world. 46 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,520 The company did close shop in the mid 2000s after releasing a 47 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,240 number of other smaller games, also mostly released in Japan. 48 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Overall development of the game was fairly smooth and worked 49 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,760 over the course of 1995, late in that year into 97 when the game 50 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,440 was released. Now there are some differences 51 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,920 that the Japanese version of the game had and international ones 52 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,840 did not. The White Rabbit greets the 53 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,960 player before meeting every boss and gives them small hints on 54 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,360 how to defeat them. Not the North American version, 55 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,080 but it was brought back in Chameleon Twist 2. 56 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,760 There was also carrots to find that would take you to new 57 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,280 secret areas, which you'll hear in a few minutes. 58 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,800 Danny myself talked about would be a great addition to the game. 59 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,800 Sadly again, just in the Japanese version and then in 60 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,040 general the bosses moved a lot faster making them much tougher. 61 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,400 This would frustrate me for sure. 62 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,640 Again, I mean Danny, definitely talk about some of the bosses 63 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,040 going forward as well. All right, time for a little bit 64 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,520 of housekeeping here. Of course you can support this 65 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,720 show at patreon.com/remember 64 show. 66 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,720 You'll get all the episodes early video content and you can 67 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,120 help us shape what episodes will be coming up and what games we 68 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,400 will be playing. Also, you have a chance to take 69 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,440 home a holographic Remember 64 logo sticker as well, so have a 70 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,600 few of those up for grabs. If you become a patron, that 71 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,160 will be mailed out to you free of charge. 72 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,800 And also just wanted to mention that in 2024, if you are 73 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,920 listening to this before 2024 comes along, did you look back 74 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,200 at myself or coming up with some pretty fun ideas? 75 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,000 We're going to be playing a slew of different types of games. 76 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,080 What I mean by that, some of them will be unreleased and 77 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,760 we'll be playing ROMs of those. Some of them will be games that 78 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,000 are inspired by N64 but have been made in the last, let's 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,560 say, decade or few years as well. 80 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,920 And you know, we're just going to go with some cool ideas. 81 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,400 We're going to play some mods on games like Super Smash Brothers, 82 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,000 Mario 64, all those types of things. 83 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,480 We're going to have video versions of them. 84 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,640 We're going to have audio versions on the feed and 85 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,720 something different as well in between going through more of 86 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,760 the regular library of the N64. So look forward to that as well. 87 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,760 All right everybody, It is time to dig into Chameleon Twist with 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Danny from Retro Wars. As always, we record these 89 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,560 episodes together, release them on our individual feed. 90 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,560 So you will hear us talking on this episode and on his as well. 91 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,720 We also do have intros and things that are different from 92 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,840 each other, but make sure you check out Danny's work at Retro 93 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:43,840 Wars. It is awesome. 94 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,720 And yeah, you know what? Without further ado, instead of 95 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,240 just me talking, let's talk about some Chameleon Twist with 96 00:05:49,240 --> 00:06:06,440 Danny. I was thinking I was going to 97 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,160 say this before we hit record, but I'm going to say right now 98 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,600 so everyone else can hear it. I'm always really looking 99 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,160 forward to sitting down and talking with you, man. 100 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,880 Like these episodes that we've done together and continue to do 101 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,640 are always so fun, regardless of the titles that we're playing. 102 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,080 Like, I really we've had some hits and misses over the last 103 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,600 several episodes that we've done together. 104 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,360 But I I don't care. I love it. 105 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,520 So I'm I'm more than happy to be doing this again. 106 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,760 You know what, Like I know we're doing, we are. 107 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:35,880 We've got another game in the pipeline which is kind of away 108 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,440 from our usual spin the wheel just because you've done it on 109 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,880 your shows. Oh, I want to play that. 110 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,720 I want to play that. But yeah, I'll spin the wheel. 111 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Process usually does kind of get some interesting ones. 112 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,800 And with this 1A chameleon twist was what we picked this time or 113 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,160 what the wheel picked. Yes, it's one of them. 114 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,160 I've heard of it but never played it. 115 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:03,640 Yeah, I I think I I may have rented it or a friend may have 116 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,000 rented it because the first stage or at least part of the 117 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,920 first stage, I had a little bit of a nostalgia hit four when I 118 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,680 when I started playing it, but that's pretty much it. 119 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,960 I very, very little experience with this. 120 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,240 So it's it's essentially a a new playthrough for me as well. 121 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,480 I think for me it was like looking at it, I recognize the 122 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,320 box straight away as I know what this game is. 123 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,840 I've seen it, I know of yes, I must have seen it rentals in the 124 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,360 shops and I was going up. But as I never played it and 125 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,960 yeah, when I say oh God, how long is this game going to take? 126 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Like fucking hell. It's just going to be a 127 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,160 nightmare. But look how I'll say this game 128 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,120 is. It's a non offensive 3D 129 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,400 platformer. That's that's how I put it in my 130 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,960 head. It's not amazing. 131 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,000 It's not shit, it's just all right, that's that's the best 132 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,440 way of summing this up. I I think so. 133 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,440 I think that's a good way to put it because it has some some 134 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,920 pretty interesting ideas and definitely does some stuff 135 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,000 that's that's pretty unique. I would say that other games 136 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,320 don't. That's partially due to the 137 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,040 characters that you play as and stuff but but yeah it it mostly 138 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,280 plays pretty well. It it still feels a little bit 139 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,000 dated. A lot of it's the camera and 140 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,560 we'll get into like sort of details, but yeah, it's awkward. 141 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Like a lot of stuff is on the N64 and PS1 era, but doesn't 142 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,440 necessarily fail on all parts either. 143 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,680 So it's yeah, it's just it's OK, it's OK. 144 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,159 It's OK now, believe it or not, this thing has a plot, which is 145 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,280 ridiculous. Please educate me because I've 146 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,080 played through this game and I still don't know what it is. 147 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,559 Well, see, this is the weirdest plot I've ever seen. 148 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,480 So you put you pick the chameleon you want to use. 149 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:50,280 So I just picked the blue one and it's basically this bog 150 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,840 standard chameleon. And he's sitting there and he 151 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,360 watches this rabbit go past. And I was thinking it's akin to 152 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Alice in Wonderland and the rabbit suddenly. 100 percent, 153 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,200 100%. And the rabbit jumps down this 154 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,920 ball pole and the chameleon is like to himself, What the fuck? 155 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,480 Where did he go? And he decides, oh, I'll follow 156 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,680 him. And then he goes in this Alice 157 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:16,280 in Wonderland, you know hole. And then suddenly he's now got 158 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,160 limbs like a norm. He's got, he's what would you 159 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,440 call a biped? I don't know what the word is, 160 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,360 but he's now got legs and all. He's like, he's like. 161 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,280 It looks like a walking, looks like a walking bubble head. 162 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,880 That's how I I saw it. I mean it's it's cool. 163 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,520 It's kind of like, oh, I guess that's you don't really need a 164 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,640 set reason for them to sort of change their body type and 165 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,200 whatever. It's fine. 166 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,320 It just is what it is. I just, I found it interesting 167 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,920 that you actually start as a actual lizard, like an actual 168 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,080 chameleon. I thought maybe you were just 169 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,480 always that character because it's funny because like like you 170 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,640 said, when you pick which color, essentially you want to be one 171 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,040 of the four. I think it is. 172 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,080 All it does is change your color and the and the expression on 173 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,240 their face it doesn't really matter, but it's funny because 174 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,200 you pick. That's all it is. 175 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Yeah, it's it's I mean we've talked about games like and our 176 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,080 choices of like you know, just give us ninjas in Mortal Kombat. 177 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,160 I mean it's not Scorpion and Sub Zero and and and all that but 178 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,320 it's it's really just color it's skin. 179 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,560 But it's funny you you have you're on the select screen and 180 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:23,280 you're the, you know you're the bobble head looking character. 181 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,400 But then immediately when the game starts you're not that I 182 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,400 was like oh I oh OK I guess. I guess we actually are a 183 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,360 chameleon. I didn't realize. 184 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,040 Yeah, we're a community. And then literally you find the 185 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,640 rabbit. It doesn't really solve much 186 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,760 because when you actually finish the game, what? 187 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,840 What? What's the ending? 188 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,560 Oh, you just go out of the portal and you just become a 189 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:42,280 chameleon again and you just crack on. 190 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,000 That's it. That's the plus. 191 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,800 I'd like. I don't. 192 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,720 Understand the fuck. What? 193 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,480 Literally, I'm going to say this. 194 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,000 They have every game I've ever played in the show. 195 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,200 This is the most weirdest plot and bare bones plot I've ever 196 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,600 seen in my life. So the worst plot ever is get 197 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,240 this game gets it. Echo the Dolphin probably has a 198 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,920 better plot than this. Literally. 199 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,600 It's. Very weird. 200 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:14,640 Like they just they tried to. I played. 201 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,160 Some shit games on the show. This has the shittest plot I've 202 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,720 ever seen. I I think it's lazy is what it 203 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,000 is. I think that's part of the 204 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,640 problem is that like, I think they had an idea here or they 205 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,680 could have, you know, maybe thrown in a couple of like small 206 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:31,000 points when you start a new stage or something. 207 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,160 But it's essentially, it's essentially like, like you said, 208 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,640 Alice in Wonderland. I mean it's very clearly Alice 209 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,560 in Wonderland. It's a rabbit in a tux with a 210 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:44,840 with a pocket watch that says they're late for something like 211 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,120 that is 100% out. So where is I? 212 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,800 Don't, you know, don't make a tea party and don't do stuff 213 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,600 like, like, you know, don't have the Cheshire cabinet. 214 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,720 OK, fine, that's that's fine. Do something else but make other 215 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,800 hints about it maybe to sort of at least feel like that theme 216 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,960 continues through, but like almost right away. 217 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,320 None of nothing that happens in that opening scene carries 218 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,240 through. If 5 minutes later, like never 219 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Mind, 5 stages later, 5 minutes later, it's like, well, 220 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,480 everything just dropped. You see the rabbit at the start 221 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,440 of every stage and he just like kind of tells you what you're 222 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,800 what the stage is about, I guess, or why it's themed the 223 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,520 way that it is. But that's it. 224 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,280 That's the only continuity throughout this entire game. 225 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:32,920 As far as the story goes, it's. Ridiculous like and all is is 6 226 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,240 levels and they could be done relatively quickly and that's 227 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,680 it. 6 levels, each one as a boss and I was expecting more. 228 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:43,640 Well, I don't know what I was expecting to be honest, but if 229 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,040 you'd bought this game like you can have this done in an hour 230 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,480 and a half, if you bought this game, you'd be pissed off. 231 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,600 It is. It's. 232 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:59,200 It's way too short I think. You know it's it's an early one. 233 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,840 You know it's it's one year or just over a year after the 234 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,480 release of the console. And you know as we kind of know 235 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,800 like a lot of the third party developers really didn't have a 236 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,560 lot of you know, kits and dev kits and stuff available to 237 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:16,080 really like do much with developing these games early. 238 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,560 Like a lot of it was just internal Nintendo. 239 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,160 Everyone else got the shit into the stick and stuff and that 240 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,040 sucks right. But I don't know, another couple 241 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,000 of stages would have been, would have been nice. 242 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,280 Like it's if you want to collect everything, like the sort of 243 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,080 crowns and all those things that you can cut, fine. 244 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,080 But what's that going to, What's that going to do? 245 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,680 Add half an hour, 40 minutes. If you went back and played some 246 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:41,240 stages, that's pretty much it. I think one of the reasons why 247 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,760 it would take you longer is because you kind of move slow. 248 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,960 And I didn't love that kind of looks, kind of feels like he's 249 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,960 walking through mud the whole time. 250 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,360 I don't know if you felt that. As I said, it's a non, it's a 251 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,160 non offensive platform and yet you mentioned the camera early 252 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,640 on I think so most of the the world is like in kind of square 253 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,600 boxes. That's how I'd kind of looked at 254 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,160 it. Like you go into a room, it's a 255 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,120 square, there's a puzzle, you solve that little puzzle, 256 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,560 whether it's a platforming puzzle or whatnot and the camera 257 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:14,840 kind of rather go behind you. It kind of takes like I'm going 258 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:20,240 to sit in the corner, which, yeah, yeah, works like, I'd say 259 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,160 90% of the time it's actually OK. 260 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,920 It's actually what it needs to do. 261 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,440 But there are some moments in my, yeah, I would like to 262 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,520 actually see the other side of the room. 263 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,760 That'd be handy. Yeah, because I think with a lot 264 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,840 of 3D platforms, I mean, yeah, I even experienced this a little 265 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,560 bit with playing stuff like Donkey Kong 64, where I don't 266 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,000 think the camera's all that bad or anything. 267 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,520 It works definitely better than this game does. 268 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,000 But when you have to do like tight platforming, when you have 269 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,000 to go across, you know, I think it's in the first stage or two 270 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,680 you're going especially you're going across a couple of really 271 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,840 small narrow platforms without walls on them. 272 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,360 And if you fall off, it's so fairly forgiving, like when you 273 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,840 fall off it kind of just puts you back to the opening part of 274 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,800 that of that area. That's fine. 275 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,640 I I think that's a a decent approach to it. 276 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,040 But it's I actually found it kind of hard to go slow enough 277 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,800 across those small areas and without the camera in a certain 278 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,920 position or having more control over the camera. 279 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,880 I couldn't actually tell if I was too close to the edge or if 280 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,240 I was moving too fast or too slow or you know, if an enemy is 281 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,320 on it, God forbid. Or if a piece is going to fall 282 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,960 to the ground. Like if the if you had a little 283 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,800 bit more control or you could zoom in or or sort of tilt it a 284 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,800 little bit in a different way. Sometimes that's possible, but 285 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,720 when it's not, it's it's not great. 286 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,320 That would have been nice, to be able to move the camera just a 287 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,120 little bit. I was sitting there because I 288 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,600 was compared. I was thinking of like Mario 64 289 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,160 and other games that try to see a Donkey Kong 64. 290 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,560 And I was like, OK, look, I see what you're trying to do. 291 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,000 You because you've just got it in like a like literally five of 292 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,560 the six levels of square boxes. And I was like, I can see what 293 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,000 you. Yeah. 294 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Because I can see the moment you try and put a camera behind them 295 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,680 in one of these square boxes, you're going to be stuck behind 296 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,920 the wall. It's going to be an absolute 297 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,840 piss fest. I was like, look, this is what 298 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,600 I've got to deal with. It wasn't too bad. 299 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Yeah. He the character moves like, 300 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:19,480 he's a bit like in mud. I was like and yeah, it would 301 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,040 have been nice if you got a little bit faster especially 302 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,760 when you're trying to use this tongue physics which oh I didn't 303 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,080 think I ever say that on this show. 304 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,200 The tongue, the tongue physics sometimes can be a bit of a 305 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,400 painy ass because of the camera angle and you're trying to let 306 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,480 you know get things like censor it and stuff like that. 307 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,280 But yeah I was like do you know what I'll I'll deal with this 308 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,000 camera. You are right. 309 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,600 It's early days and if it was behind this would have been a 310 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,240 disaster. I think this would have been an 311 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:49,400 absolute fuck ton shit of mess. But being where it was, serving 312 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,760 a purpose, it's not a great purpose, but it's serving 313 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,960 something. Yeah I I think I I think I want 314 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,520 to talk about actually the the, the, the tongue physics as you 315 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,080 say which is exactly what it is really because because that's 316 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,040 like the most unique thing that this game brings I think. 317 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:07,440 Right. Like that's the stand out 318 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,119 mechanic. That's the thing that I remember 319 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,880 doing for whatever reason. I just knew to press the button 320 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,599 and I could I could direct the tongue in whatever you know 321 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,400 direction I wanted to. I don't know somehow I I I 322 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,599 figured that out. I just knew it intuitively and 323 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,800 you know, I I think it's it's kind of cool that they can have 324 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,040 like because the the the character, your chameleon, your 325 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,520 Davey, which of course I picked Davey because I had to pick 326 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,920 Davey. I I think that what's cool about 327 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,760 it is that, you know, despite the speed being a little bit 328 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,400 slow and sluggish sometimes and the jump being I think pretty 329 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,200 responsive but also again feels a little bit light or a little 330 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,920 bit floaty or something at times, especially in boss 331 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,080 fights. But the tongue at least let's 332 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,520 you do something different in platforming areas. 333 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,240 I I wish there was a little bit more of it early on so that you 334 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,440 kind of got a better feel for it because later they kind of make 335 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,520 you do you you jump and then you and then you use your tongue or 336 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,520 you fall and you use your tongue and you do it at like different 337 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,880 heights and stuff. And it felt like I wasn't quite 338 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,760 ready to do that yet. And I think early on it's a 339 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,560 little simplistic, but like, I don't know, I still kind of like 340 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,360 that you could get over large gaps with that as opposed to 341 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:21,800 having a double jump. You know, it sort of replaces 342 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,440 that in some ways. And then when you actually can 343 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,640 scoop up a bunch of ants or a bunch of bombs or whatever and 344 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,120 then shoot them out, I thought that was pretty good. 345 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,400 I don't know that it controls that well when you actually 346 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,320 shoot the things back out that you're eating. 347 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,480 But the actual act, yeah, but the actual act of of scooping 348 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,040 them all up with your long tongue I found to be kind of 349 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,320 fun. And the fact that you can 350 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,880 control where it goes, I thought that was pretty good. 351 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Like that part I I definitely enjoyed, even if it didn't 352 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,280 control all that great sometimes like I. 353 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,040 Can imagine Nintendo was sitting there. 354 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,360 Whoever made this, I can't even remember. 355 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:59,360 It was was like, right? How can we basically rip off a 356 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:02,080 Nintendo character? I said well Yoshi's got this big 357 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,920 ass tongue. He spits things out, let's just 358 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,080 rip that off. And I can imagine Yoshi or 359 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,640 Nintendo sitting there going what off? 360 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,560 No, this tongue is a rip off. It's like an advanced Yoshi, 361 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,800 because yet you, as you said, you can lick up enemies and spit 362 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,040 them out. You don't poop them out, you 363 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:25,440 spit them out. But this tongue rides it go. 364 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,360 It goes on for about 20 meters. If you wanted to, yeah, it's. 365 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:31,600 Huge. Yeah, it's huge, 100%. 366 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,760 And you can control the direction it goes, is that you 367 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,560 can have it bend on it. So it's like, what the fuck is 368 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,720 going on this? No, this is not, this is not 369 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,360 physics. And don't come up me with it. 370 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:43,720 This is a video game. Bullshit. 371 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,920 I don't. I'm not listening to that. 372 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,920 But I want some realism in my games. 373 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,240 But you can literally make this tongue. 374 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,240 You can use it to catapult yourself up to platforms. 375 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,400 I was like, actually, that's quite cool, I thought. 376 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,800 That's quite funny. I thought that was a cool idea. 377 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,320 I don't know that the execution of it is all that great, 378 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,480 unfortunately. Like at some points you need it, 379 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,840 but there's like a momentum to it too, where you sort of like. 380 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,240 Swing back and forth in some ways and I I think that was, 381 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,920 yeah, I I like the idea, but I actually got more frustrated 382 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,280 with that than I thought I would 'cause it should be simpler to 383 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,440 do. You should just press, you know, 384 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,920 the button, I think it's the Z or the Z button and then you can 385 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,440 just press jump and he sort of flips off, you know, it looks, 386 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,360 it looks cool. It kind of does like this, you 387 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:32,480 know, Acrobat looking move kind of thing. 388 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,200 I I think it looks kind of cool. I just wish that the whole, you 389 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,680 know, where where you sort of bend one way and then sort of 390 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,840 use the momentum to kind of push yourself forward or higher or 391 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,480 whatever. I wish that was easier to put 392 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,480 like to pull off and actually execute. 393 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,280 But at least they tried something different with it and 394 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,800 it wasn't just, hey, it does this one or two things and 395 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,560 that's it. You know, there's no double 396 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,800 jump. There's no wall jump. 397 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,760 There's no, you know, floaty jump type thing. 398 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,320 It's it's based around what you can do with the character's 399 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,640 tongue and it's it's odd. But again, another idea that I 400 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,080 don't, I don't know that I've really seen in this way used in 401 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,400 this way before, so I thought that was kind of cool the funny. 402 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,920 Thing is that you you've literally just said that the how 403 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:23,120 the physics and how it bends because there is I know is it 404 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:32,440 momentum is is literally the the big one because momentum I can 405 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,440 buy that this tongue can go 20 meters I can buy because it's in 406 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,680 a magical world I can buy the fact that you can jump on your 407 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,440 tongue and bounce off. What I can't buy is when you use 408 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,760 your tongue to like grab a platform and then all of a 409 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,400 sudden spin do a 180 through the platform. 410 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,280 I was like, no, no. Yeah. 411 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,640 So what you're talking about is like there's the there's a move 412 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,960 that you do where you can extend your tongue however long you 413 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,560 need to or want to or or or or able to. 414 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,120 And then you press a button and he just picks up off the ground 415 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:16,600 and and twirls around whatever you know pull or or bar or 416 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,080 whatever that you're attached to with the end of your tongue and 417 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,040 spins around. You can like essentially just 418 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,920 trip up characters, which you have to do and I think in at 419 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,200 least a couple of the boss fights and it, you know, knocks 420 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,840 them on their butt or or it scoops up what you go by and 421 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,400 stuff and yeah, it makes absolutely no sense. 422 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Yeah, I was like. I'm not having that absolute 423 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,120 bullshit fuck right off. You're lying to me. 424 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,640 It's a joke like this, is all. They had you. 425 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,760 They had you with the rabbit, yeah, They had you with the 426 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,400 rabbit. They had you with turning into a 427 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,760 walking bobble head. They had you with different 428 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,640 types of chameleons. All that was, you know, it's 429 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,360 fine, but the second you had to spin around, that's it. 430 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,280 You're out of here. You're done. 431 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,360 Forget it. Yeah, fuck this, Fuck this game. 432 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,520 Fuck you. Makes no sense. 433 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,640 And yeah, because you have to trip up stuff and that's sort of 434 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,120 the bosses you have to do. And I was like, no, this is 435 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,320 bullshit. And again, I'm not listening to 436 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,760 your argument. Oh, it's a video game. 437 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,400 Fucking fucking thank you. So absolutely get stuffed, but 438 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,920 Yoshi's sitting there going good. 439 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:27,520 At least my physics work. And I mean, I think, I think the 440 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,560 the, I think you could, you could have a game that like this 441 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,640 with Yoshi, why not. I mean there's Yoshi's story, 442 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,840 it's a 2D platformer and stuff, but like you can do something 443 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,680 similar with Yoshi in a in a 3D looking game like this. 444 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,680 And yeah, sure, the tongue mechanics might not be the same, 445 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,000 but you could pull off a good platformer with Yoshi and and 446 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,840 you wouldn't have the argument of these physics make no sense. 447 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,120 I think you'd be all for it, man. 448 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,920 I think. I think you missed your calling 449 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,280 back in 97. Yeah, they it could. 450 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,560 You know what? It would have been interesting 451 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,920 how they had like a side character, like a secret 452 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,800 character is Yoshi. I think everyone would have gone 453 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,840 holy shit, this is amazing. But yeah, no way Nintendo's 454 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080 letting that happen is are they? They're not like no, you don't 455 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,120 have an R property. Actually, there is. 456 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,120 I wrote this down. There actually is a couple of 457 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:15,760 new characters. I don't know if you knew this, 458 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,600 if you saw this in any way, but there's a white and a black one. 459 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,520 So when you. Yeah, so when you beat the game, 460 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,880 you unlock the white one. It just gives you a choice. 461 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,560 It's just there, right? Again, white. 462 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,880 And it's just called white, which is really weird 'cause the 463 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,120 other ones have names and then the black one is found in bomb 464 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:40,600 land, which I think is technically the 3rd or the 4th, 465 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,280 1:00 and you have to go back to get him after you collect. 466 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,800 I think it's carrots for the for the rabbit or something like 467 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,960 that. He basically just looks like, 468 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,840 you know, the black version of all the other chameleons, just 469 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,680 with that color and he just has a really angry face. 470 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,680 The the problem is you can't use. 471 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,200 You can't go back and use this, this apparent, you know, secret 472 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,880 character in the single player if you want to play it again, 473 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,200 you go through all this effort and he's just part of the 474 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720 multiplayer. And I found that so weird. 475 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,880 Like, why? Why is that the case? 476 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,280 Like, if you're going to put all that effort in, why not give 477 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,760 someone like replayability, you know, incentive here. 478 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Anyways, there's two, there's two other characters. 479 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,960 Again, they're really just color and that's it. 480 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,240 Or shade I guess if it's white and black but. 481 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,280 Black is it. I I think it is. 482 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:42,400 I'm going to double check. But I'm pretty sure it was just 483 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,240 called Black. Davey, Jack, Fred, Linda. 484 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Oh, this is for a different 10. There's a there was a chameleon 485 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,680 twist three. DI didn't know that. 486 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,960 There we go. We'll learn something new every 487 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,520 day. This. 488 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Comedian was Twist 3D. The game was in three DI. 489 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,280 Know. I don't know. 490 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,320 Oh, my God. It's. 491 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,280 It's looks like it was 2018, too. 492 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,160 Wow. Oh my God. 493 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,120 They went all the way back. Yeah. 494 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,880 So there's a couple of characters again. 495 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,320 You said the game's pretty short. 496 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,440 It really is. I think if there was some, like 497 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,280 some collectibles that were a little bit more complicated or 498 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,440 you had a reason to go back to other stages other than, you 499 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,240 know, unlocking this character, whatever, it would flesh things 500 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,280 out a little bit. But to be honest it's it's 501 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,320 pretty quick, especially if you're going to go and do it, 502 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,240 you know in one I I did it not in one sitting but in a couple 503 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,320 of quick sittings and and that was pretty much it. 504 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,840 And that's fine. Not every, you know, it's, it's 505 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,440 OK like. I think I did it. 506 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,120 I did it in two sittings and I was like, this actually works 507 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,440 out quite well when I'm considering the the plate that 508 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,080 what I've got on my dinner plate at the moment. 509 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840 This works out quite well. And it's quite because it was 510 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,480 like, oh, when I get some of these games, for how long is 511 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,880 this going to take? How long is this going to take? 512 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,120 I was like, shit, it's going to take forever to see. 513 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,640 It's like, OK, that's actually not too long. 514 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,520 And then I've got like other ones like act, raise and like, 515 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,800 how long is that going to take? And I thought that would take 516 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,800 hours, but it didn't. I was like, OK, so it's quite 517 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,720 nice and we get these games where it's not going to be 518 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,120 forever. Like Nick, Mega Man took me a 519 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:21,120 lot longer than this, although yes, that. 520 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,800 You know our. Special one we're doing now is 521 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,880 taking a little bit long. It's going to take a little bit 522 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,520 longer. That's one I'm only on. 523 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,320 I just finished check out two of that one, so that'll be nice. 524 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,160 OK, so I'm working through, Yeah. 525 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,560 So that's something to look forward to. 526 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,600 I I think that I I think one of the things I wanted to make sure 527 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,920 that we talked about too is that is the boss battles which we've 528 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,240 sort of brought up in passing every once in a while. 529 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,400 Did you have? I was going to say which one was 530 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,040 your favorite, but which one? Let's essentially go through 531 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,120 some of these levels and then we can go through the boss video 532 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,680 because I've got notes on each one because the first one is 533 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,440 jungle land and all that is, is basically kind of getting used 534 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,800 to the game, going through mines and stuff like that. 535 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,080 And it's it's, it's not exciting. 536 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,040 But then you have to fight this monkey and I just referred to 537 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,920 him as a Super Saiyan monkey that throws balls at you. 538 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,160 That's basically what and he's got, he's got sunglasses on of 539 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,280 course because he's cool and it's a 90s, so of course he 540 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,280 does. I this one was like super easy. 541 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,480 I beat him without even realizing what I needed to do to 542 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,600 beat him. Like you just you soak up that 543 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,760 you eat up the bugs or whatever it is that that's coming at you 544 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,120 and you just push him off the edge. 545 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,240 It was pretty quick and easy. I wish there was a little bit 546 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,720 more to it. But again, like you said, first 547 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,440 stage that just sort of letting you have fun with it, it's 548 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:48,000 really not that difficult. Yeah, it's fine. 549 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,840 Again, I just love the fact that he looks. 550 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,920 What's the grass Pokémon? Oh, hang on. 551 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,760 I need to those who like Pokémon. 552 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,560 I'm very. Bad with Pokémon, I'm very bad. 553 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,040 Why should when you say grass Pokémon, I just say? 554 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,480 About that, that's Gen. 8. What's it called? 555 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,760 It's not in Gen. Eight. 556 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Oh my God. I think I could. 557 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,320 Probably. Who is it? 558 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,400 Hang on. I'll send you a picture now. 559 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,120 This is how this is how good we are on this show copy image 560 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,400 right? He looks like he looks like 561 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,640 this. Everyone is what? 562 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,120 If you're driving. You have to wait till you get 563 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,920 home. It looks like this super sane 564 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,680 version of that. Oh my God, he really does. 565 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,600 So what's the name of it really? Boom. 566 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,160 That's a cool looking Pokémon, actually. 567 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,520 Cool. Looking Pokémon. 568 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Damn right cool looking Pokémon from Gen. 8, Gen. 8. 569 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,680 Yeah, he looks like that. So not offensive. 570 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Second one is Ant land and you can never guess what the enemies 571 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,880 are. It's like Jesus, they've 572 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,360 obviously. This one was was weird. 573 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,160 I I didn't I don't know I felt a little too like I liked the 574 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,720 overall like in general in the game that most part of the first 575 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,160 stage and then I think it's the desert one which we'll get to. 576 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,080 I like the stages that were outside more. 577 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,280 This one felt too contained. I didn't love it and. 578 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,080 They're all fucking contained apart from desert land. 579 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,360 Well, the beginning of the first one isn't. 580 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,600 Oh yeah, that's not for a. Little bit, a couple minutes. 581 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,760 Mostly it's like into your box dose of it. 582 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,480 Yeah, you're you're right. You're right. 583 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,600 I I wish like you, like you said earlier, referring to mostly 584 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,760 about the camera and stuff, but just in general, I don't know. 585 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,160 It somehow just felt better when you were less contained and in 586 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,120 that box and this one definitely felt this one definitely felt 587 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,280 that way. It felt very like, oh, you're in 588 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:43,320 an ants hill or whatever you are, here's a bunch of ants. 589 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,480 And it was just like, literally rows and rows of endless ants. 590 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,320 And I was just like, OK, this just feels lazy. 591 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,520 Is is lazy. It's so lazy. 592 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 And even the boss isn't Queen I was like. 593 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,680 Of course it is, and you have to use your amazing tongue physics 594 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,760 to trip her up. Yeah, I I didn't like this. 595 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,720 Well, this one wasn't as bad as probably the next one we're 596 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,160 going to get to, in my opinion. But it was pretty simplistic. 597 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,760 Yeah. You sort of do the spinorama 598 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,400 thing like we were talking about and you you spit some ants at 599 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,040 her and and and that's it, you know? 600 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080 Yeah, she's got a huge. Is it thorax? 601 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,720 Is that what it is on ants? Oh look. 602 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,920 At this getting scientific, you could have just said, yeah, I 603 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,080 was gonna. I was. 604 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,040 Gonna say giant pink butt, but I I feel. 605 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,720 I think it's thorax. I think that's what it is. 606 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,080 People can tell us that I'm wrong, but I think I'm right. 607 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,920 Anyways, you know, she spins around. 608 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,600 She has a crown on. She's the queen. 609 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,680 Nah. OK, fine. 610 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,440 It's over. You know, it was it was the 611 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,680 stage itself that I was like, oh, is this where this game's 612 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,520 going? I didn't love it. 613 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,160 It was it was fine again, just fine. 614 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,960 Just just. Just just fine. 615 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,800 Third was bomb land and then this one is the enemy. 616 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,440 Is bomb fish again? Who the fuck designed bomb fish? 617 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,960 There are. We need some bombs and they move 618 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,120 in the air. Fish. 619 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,600 Fish because that makes sense. They look like they look like 620 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,960 flying sharks, like they do like is there. 621 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,600 Is there not a Pokémon that also looks like this too? 622 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,840 Is there not like a blue shark Pokémon that's a little bit not 623 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,720 flat on the back, but doesn't have? 624 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,920 It doesn't have a tail on the. Back and it kind. 625 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280 Of it's blue and. Red sort of a Nava. 626 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,560 Or something like that. Hang on. 627 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,800 I think this stage at least like the actual level itself before 628 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,000 you get to the boss to me had the best ideas. 629 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320 I think it was a little bit too tricky, but. 630 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,000 Jorpedo I should know that Dickhead 0. 631 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,360 Is that what That's what I was thinking of. 632 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,000 That's what they look like. They're flying in the air. 633 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,600 They have a rocket going out their ass and they or bombs, you 634 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,360 can use them as, you know little, little rockets. 635 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,200 Yes, that's, yes, you sent me that one. 636 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,480 That's exactly the one I was thinking. 637 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,800 And you? Know what? 638 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,800 It's really annoying me. I was like oh you idiot, why did 639 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,840 I call it that? Was it Connor. 640 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040 But it was just pre evolved forwards Connor. 641 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,920 But right, I'm not that thick everybody. 642 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,920 I've got some knowledge of Pokémon. 643 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,000 Shut up, shut up. Everyone at least. 644 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,080 One of us does. But yeah, you basically get bomb 645 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,480 fish, and you use the bomb fish to blow up enemies, to blow up 646 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,120 blocks. It's like, OK, I can see what 647 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,520 you're trying to do here. You're trying to, you know, 648 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,880 bring a different gimmick in every time, aren't you? 649 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,120 Yeah, yeah, and and and at least this one 'cause I think the 650 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,520 difference between the 1st and the second stage is that it just 651 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,160 felt like a more chaotic, less interest, not less interesting, 652 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,680 but just felt like a more chaotic just for the sake of 653 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,280 being chaotic version for the Ant land stage than compared to 654 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,960 the first. At least with this one, they 655 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,840 they didn't just fill the screen with more characters. 656 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,120 And that's our idea, 'cause that's what the Ant one felt 657 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,320 like. This one at least tried to like, 658 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,520 oh, you have to break the blocks to be able to get the jumps 659 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,120 done. And at least it did that. 660 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,600 My issue with this was that I hated this this boss. 661 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,960 Yeah, I was like a like a centipede thing and you just had 662 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,679 to try and basically hit to make it lose bits. 663 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,440 When you fucked around, there were the lava or the floor kept 664 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,960 breaking and then you became lava and you're losing spots 665 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,719 like, oh, for God's sake, let me just just just this is one of 666 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,800 the ones that I just crawl off the platform and die. 667 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,120 Just do me a favor, Yeah. Something like like the IT was, 668 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,199 it was a little too chaotic and I think because the the way that 669 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,360 the character controls and the speed of the boss compared to 670 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,120 you, it didn't, it didn't feel natural like it felt like it was 671 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,800 cheating me a little bit and I I obviously I don't like that 672 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,840 feeling. But what's interesting too is 673 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,880 that afterwards, as I'm looking up the development of the game 674 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,560 and stuff, apparently in the Japanese version all of the 675 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,280 bosses move at faster speeds and are more difficult. 676 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,120 I would lose my. Mind. 677 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,199 Yeah, I would lose my mind at this stage if that was the case 678 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,880 because this was not the most impossible thing, but it was 679 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,000 kind of frustrating. It took me a few tries. 680 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,360 This was, for me, the the most frustrating part of this entire 681 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,160 game. I don't know what it was, man. 682 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,600 I just was not clicking when I was fighting this boss and I was 683 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,440 pissed off. Not gonna lie. 684 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,400 Yeah, I can. I can. 685 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,880 Understand why I'll be a bit fucked off with that. 686 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,760 I was like, oh. Yeah. 687 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,000 That's that's just a bit of a shit. 688 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,840 Yeah, a bit of a shit. But it is. 689 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,680 It's again, don't quote me expect, like, I'm expecting 690 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,080 millions of things here, but that was like, that's boring. 691 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,960 The 4th one, I read it because I've got dyslexia and I always 692 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,200 do this. I read it as a desert or desert 693 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,400 castle. I was like, where's the case? 694 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,480 But where's the fucking cake? And then it was like, oh, the 695 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,280 sound on there. You've done it again, Desert, I 696 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,800 think. I think the cake would have been 697 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,080 more interesting. It would have been better. 698 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Honestly, like, just in general, cake is better than sand. 699 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,240 But you know a. 100% cake is better than sand, and I even 700 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:58,160 know you're in Australia and yet this is this is based outside 701 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,760 and this kind of made me feel like a Mario level the the 702 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,280 camera work was like, yes, this is what I wanted. 703 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160 Yeah, yeah. This was a good stage. 704 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,360 Despite not having cake, I still enjoyed this stage a lot of 705 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,520 because of exactly what you said. 706 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,760 Like there's something about like there's there's little 707 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,880 things about it that like little changes compared to the previous 708 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,600 stages and other ones that, yeah, felt more like AI don't 709 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,160 know platform that you're used to or something. 710 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,720 I don't know how you would say it, but yeah, Mario, Mario level 711 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:27,840 is a good way to put it. I agree. 712 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,200 Yeah, a little. Mario 64 that's it felt like a 713 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,080 Mario 64 level. Yep, Yep. 714 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,720 And that's obviously a good thing. 715 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,640 So the game. Should have gone for that 716 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,920 direction because this was this was good fun this level like you 717 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,880 got to use your tongue a little bit more and you essentially had 718 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,160 to. You were going down slots and 719 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,800 slides and you had to use your tongue to try and get to one 720 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920 pillar to the other. I was like this is what the game 721 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,760 should have been. Should have done more shit like 722 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,360 this. I. 723 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,920 Agree. This is why I think they should 724 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,160 have had like an idea like this in the forest than at the 725 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,880 beginning. Like, maybe it's not as much or 726 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,520 as difficult as it is in this stage. 727 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,480 Not that it's super hard, but you know what I mean? 728 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,600 Like, do like a mudslide or you fall down a hill or something 729 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,800 like that. In the first stage you'll be 730 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,560 like, oh, is this one of the things I'm going to be able to 731 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,880 do? Fair enough? 732 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,120 Maybe it's not possible in the more like indoor stages. 733 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,800 That's fine. But I totally agree. 734 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,080 Those sequences were fun. Even if I didn't, you know, land 735 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,760 my, you know, my timing correctly all the time. 736 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,920 I didn't feel ripped off. I didn't think it was like 737 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,240 unfair. I didn't think it was not well 738 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:31,560 done. I I like that part. 739 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,520 I thought that part was one of the better parts of the entire 740 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,520 game. I. 741 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,920 Did I was I was like, oh I'm liking this like the boss battle 742 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,320 went to it's normal thing of like you go into a room and then 743 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,800 you fight a boss. Like I was like OK fine would 744 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,880 this is how you get to play it and the boss isn't that 745 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,600 exciting. It's just Dung Beetle who he 746 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,840 goes in, I'd say don't beat all. He basically goes in the ground 747 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,640 and he bounces round and when he stops bouncing that's when you 748 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,720 can hit him. So it was probably one of the 749 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:58,480 easier bosses in the game, but the level itself was like, OK, 750 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,400 great, because then you do that and then you go into kids land 751 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,120 and it's back to square rooms again. 752 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,000 I was like, oh, come on. Yeah, I know. 753 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,200 I wish. I wish just things continued to 754 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,240 open up because that stage was it was probably even though it's 755 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,440 it looks a little bit bland because it's just sand and it's 756 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,880 brown and yellow and you know, whatever. 757 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,040 I I do think that it had the best stage out of all of them I 758 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,840 think or at least the most interesting one anyway. 759 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,720 But yeah. And then it's like, OK, well, 760 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,800 back in the box, like, oh man. Yeah, back in the box, never to 761 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,480 be seen again. I was like, oh, that shit, 762 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,880 that's that's ridiculous. It's like, yeah. 763 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,240 And I was like, you should have done this because, you know, 764 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,600 kids Land is next. And you know, this is probably 765 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,440 Michael Jackson's favorite zone, allegedly. 766 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,000 And there are literally cake biscuits everywhere. 767 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:57,840 I was like, oh for fuck's sake, boring, boring, boring, boring, 768 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,880 boring. Ideas like this, ideas like this 769 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,040 can be good, you know sort of toy land type areas and stuff 770 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,800 and games I I like. I find it kind of, it could be 771 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,000 charming and maybe it's just like, oh, life was so simple as 772 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,120 a kid. I wish, you know, it's sort of 773 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,520 this weird nostalgia type of simpler time of life kind of. 774 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,360 But honestly, I think, you know, if you don't pull it off, you 775 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,960 really don't pull it off. And that's kind of what this 776 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,360 stage was, at least. Again, the gameplay itself isn't 777 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,360 largely different, isn't like worse necessarily. 778 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,120 But when they're trying to come up with new ideas and you're 779 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,240 only at six or seven stages for this entire like 2 hour game. 780 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,440 The fact that, like at least two of the stages, just for me at 781 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,440 least, we're not that great, really knocks it down a peg, 782 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,080 unfortunately. Yeah, like the the the thing 783 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,720 with this level was you had moving platforms and you had a 784 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,200 kind of got to use your tongue to get on moving platforms. 785 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,440 Again, they try and do different things each level, but it just 786 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,040 wasn't fun. And like the boss. 787 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,440 I didn't mind the boss though. And the boss was a giant cake 788 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,400 and they were like creatures in the middle. 789 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,880 And they were firing strawberry bombs a year. 790 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,560 I was like, OK, I can get on board with strawberry bombs. 791 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,240 I've never seen that before. Yeah, it was. 792 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,480 It was probably the most interesting boss, I would say. 793 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,920 Like the way that it Well, aside from aside from cool, cool ape 794 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,200 at the glasses, this was like the most interesting one At 795 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,200 least, Yeah. And you would basically that 796 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,840 after a while of running from Strawberry Bombs, the cake would 797 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,760 open and there were these four Creek like little things inside 798 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,080 basically moving the cake. And once you ate them, ate them, 799 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,280 that was it. That was the end of the boss. 800 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,360 I was like, OK, so it's only four hits in the done. 801 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,200 But it wasn't again, not hard. It was just something else was 802 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,040 like, OK, I like seeing, you know, food get used as bombs and 803 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,960 then it's a new. Idea It's a new. 804 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,840 Idea It's a new. Idea. 805 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,520 Yeah, it's a new I've never seen actually a cake being used like 806 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,800 that before. So you can have that. 807 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:58,480 And then the final one is Ghost Castle and Oh, yeah, right, OK. 808 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,480 I liked one element, only one element of this place, and that 809 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,560 was that you need 50 crowns to open this door, which it did 810 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,240 because that was collecting the crowns and got in there and it 811 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,480 was a poor table. I was like, cool. 812 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,120 I get to play pool. I know, right. 813 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,920 I thought that was I I mean definitely did not expect that. 814 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,720 Like, I like why would that ever cross my mind. 815 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,360 So again, a new idea, something new like the game has ideas it 816 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,320 it's there and and I think most for the most part it lands them 817 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,680 or at least half the time it lands. 818 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,320 It's pretty good. You know you get some new ideas 819 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,640 and a surprise. This, I would say, quote, UN 820 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,560 quote, far into the game because it's not very long. 821 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,320 But yeah, you're you're going to, you're probably going to 822 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,400 find enough crowns in order to open it and everything because I 823 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,800 think there's, I don't know if there's like 10 or 12 per stage 824 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,000 for the most part, you'll stumble across most of them and 825 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,720 they're not that hard to get. And it's it's cool that, yeah, 826 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,040 it's like, oh, you're you're in this later stage and all of a 827 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,360 sudden like a pool table. Like where where did this come 828 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,720 from? This is the kind of stuff I 829 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:01,080 wanted to see the whole time. Yeah. 830 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,040 Random shit. Like, I made a point of going to 831 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,480 get these crowns thinking, oh, you know, it's not a long game. 832 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,040 What's the harm in trying to get the collectibles and get the 833 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,720 crown? Like, OK, I get to, I get to sit 834 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:13,680 on the pool table and actually play pool. 835 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,200 And then right, I did it. I was like, yeah, because I love 836 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,520 pool. I love snooker and pool. 837 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,360 And I played it and I finished it. 838 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,880 What do I get a crown? I'll fuck off. 839 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,880 Fuck off. Be something for doing this. 840 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:33,160 I was so annoyed. I was like, I've spent this time 841 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,320 getting the collectibles, but I was unlockable thing. 842 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,480 You're going to give me like, something cool for doing it? 843 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,680 No, you just give me one crown when I've already collected 50 844 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,080 before you fucking tits. You're so right. 845 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,080 I didn't even think about that in the moment. 846 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,720 I was like, oh, OK, I got a crown because I sort of not that 847 00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:52,960 I expected it, but I was like, OK, that's usually a reward in 848 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,120 this game or some sort of reward in this game. 849 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,680 And I didn't. You're right. 850 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,320 It doesn't really make any sense. 851 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:03,200 No, it's like I can get it if the door, you know, if there was 852 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,880 no 50 crown passageway to get in there and they gave me a crown. 853 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:09,320 Yeah, I get that. But the fact you want me to get 854 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,640 50 crowns and then you're just going to give me another crown, 855 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,480 that's bullshit. That's bullshit, at least. 856 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,600 Make it, make it bigger. Maybe put giant jewels on it. 857 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,240 Make it like a like an end game collectible. 858 00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,360 Like never mind the the black and white characters. 859 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,480 Like make this the thing. You know what? 860 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,160 Like there's something about it where like oh this should be the 861 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,120 thing because then why else are you why are you collecting 50 862 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,280 just to get 51? You know it doesn't really make 863 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,480 any sense. This is. 864 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,280 The Exactly the same bullshit out of Mario 64. 865 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,200 You finish the game, you get 120 star. 866 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,960 However many stars, there's can't remember how many it is 867 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,840 now, top man. And then you get a cannon. 868 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,520 You go see. Yoshi gives you 100 lives. 869 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,280 So fuck off. I don't need 100 lives. 870 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,160 I just don't it. I just finished the game. 871 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,320 More lives? Stick them up. 872 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,000 Your ass? That was my opinion. 873 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,360 Get those crown and stick that up your ass, you fucking 874 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,040 chameleon. Fuck me. 875 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,560 I wish, I I wish like in in some ways I wish there was like, I 876 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,960 mean I guess there's these carrots apparently which I don't 877 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,160 even know if I stumbled across any of them that will get you 878 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,320 that black character at the end. If you go, if you go back and 879 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,440 and collect them all like there's five or six that said 880 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,200 whatever it is. But I wish there was like 881 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,560 another like mid level collectible thing that isn't 882 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,960 just health hearts and the crown. 883 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,600 Like something like there was one per stage or like 2 per 884 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,200 stage that you could only get. Like, let's say every stage had 885 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,080 like a secret area, for example, and you needed five crowns in 886 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,640 the second level 8, crowns in the in the 3rd, 12. 887 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,360 And you know what I mean? Like the sort of progression 888 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,120 that way and give you incentive to get the crowns in stages 889 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,160 before and they would have a little pool mini game, for 890 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,080 example, and you would get that next collectible and there's you 891 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,680 know one or two per stage and that's it. 892 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,160 I there's room to do that in this game. 893 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040 There has to be. It's not that big of a game that 894 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,280 would have been really cool, that could have been extra cool. 895 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,000 I think I. Would have been cool, but no, we 896 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,760 get these fucking crowns and that's it. 897 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,520 And you know what? This level is going to piss me 898 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,200 off as well. There's a point in the game, 899 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,120 right, where you have to. You go on this platform and you 900 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,080 have to eat fire and then spit a candle. 901 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,600 OK, cool. Because that lights up a new 902 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,280 platform. OK, that's fine. 903 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,440 I like that. You know, do it a few times. 904 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,040 No, you have to do it like 20 times in a row. 905 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,280 It's like, fork me. I was bored with it. 906 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,880 Why am I still doing it? Yeah, it it. 907 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,000 Some of the ideas either it don't work because of just 908 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,000 control and camera and it's just, you know what you're 909 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,400 limited to with with the capability of the controller and 910 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,720 and the console and stuff like that. 911 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:45,000 But but some of and then then some of the ideas just overstay 912 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,760 their welcome and that is the prime example. 913 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,400 I thought the exact same thing. I was like, oh, this is 914 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,200 interesting, I like this idea. I've seen ideas like this before 915 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,680 in other games, totally fine, no big deal. 916 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,720 That doesn't bother me. But then you're doing it for, I 917 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,200 don't know, whatever it is an extra few minutes when it's 918 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,080 like, OK, I got the idea like mix this in later, mix this in 919 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,080 later in the stage or something like that with another type of 920 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,400 platforming and then like do it just a couple times and that's 921 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,040 it. That's all I need. 922 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,600 Just give me the new ideas if. He if he eat in the fire and 923 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,920 then his tongue's on fire and then you've got to use your 924 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,280 tongue and go across all the candles, that would have been 925 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,360 cool. Oh, that's a great idea, 926 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,400 actually. That's awesome. 927 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,080 Yeah. You're combining. 928 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,560 Yeah, you're combining the the, the idea that or the the 929 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,360 mechanic that you've had for the last several stages and then 930 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,960 something new. That's great. 931 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,560 I think that's a great idea. God, man. 932 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,200 We figured it out, eh. I think they. 933 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,720 Literally me. Game designer. 934 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,120 I could be a game designer. Hit me up, Nintendo. 935 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,920 Hit me up, Sony. I'm always available. 936 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,760 Literally. I'll I'll drop this podcast shit 937 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,560 if you make me a game designer. You only have time for one or 938 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,040 the other, and believe me, that is your true calling. 939 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,720 Clearly, after that idea, that is your true calling. 940 00:46:57,720 --> 00:46:59,160 Let's, let's let's get you over there. 941 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,200 Come on, people. Well. 942 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,000 This is the thing. I don't know who the fuck the 943 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,920 game developers were, because the final boss is just it's like 944 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,880 literally they looked into a house and went right. 945 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,640 What? How can we make a final boss? 946 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,760 OK, we've got some lanterns, we've got some barrels, we've 947 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,320 got some doors. Just just put them together and 948 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,040 see what happens. Just is this the final boss? 949 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,360 What point has he got to the story? 950 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,320 Don't know. Fuck it. 951 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,120 Just put it in. What if, what if they what if 952 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,960 they made it like a real twist and all of a sudden it was the 953 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,800 rabbit and the rabbit was was like throwing all the ideas at 954 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,440 you and stuff. Yeah, the execution of it maybe 955 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,000 isn't great. I I don't disagree. 956 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,240 But at least there's some sort of again, back to the story that 957 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:41,880 we talked about at first. At least there's some weird, 958 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,360 wacky, messed up reason for that rabbit to even be part of this 959 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,120 game in any way. There's no reason for this 960 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,040 rabbit to be there at all. This final boss has nothing to 961 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,080 do with the plot. It's basically going to a car 962 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,960 boot sale or going to the tip and putting them together 963 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,840 because that's all this is and it's got claw hands and you hit 964 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,400 it a few times and then all of a sudden it becomes a fucking 965 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,520 tank. I was like, what? 966 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,680 What point does this have? This is ridiculous. 967 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:12,840 I was like, I need a tank which will not die and I just fucking 968 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,640 die. Yeah it's again the certain 969 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,760 things overstay their welcome or just not executed all that well 970 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,800 and and I think that's the this boss is like this fight this 971 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,480 battle is is a prime example of that for sure. 972 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:34,440 Again, it's it's so easy to to sort of say like let's let's 973 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,040 shit on certain aspects of this game. 974 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,480 It's it's not that bad. It's just when the things don't 975 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,800 come together in execution, you realize why it's not one step 976 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,640 higher above in grade than it would be otherwise. 977 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,400 You know, it's there. Again, we've had this with other 978 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,520 games that we've played together. 979 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,040 Duck Dodgers was a perfect example. 980 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,360 There's like little things that, you know, we didn't love that 981 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,840 game, but there's little things that if they did a small thing 982 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,320 to improve this or change that, that game and this and this game 983 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,080 would have been exceptionally better. 984 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,920 And I still enjoyed this more than that game, despite the 985 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,360 shortcomings. But most of it's because there 986 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,960 was different ideas. Yeah, I. 987 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000 Enjoyed this more than Duck Dodgers. 988 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,880 I can't believe I'm actually saying that. 989 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,880 But if you just give me a little bit more, this could have been 990 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,400 really, this could have been decent, this could have been a 991 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,400 really little game. Like a really decent game. 992 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,160 I I never realized they made chameleon twist to add their 3D. 993 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,040 But Jesus again, was this early in the Super. 994 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,080 It was this early in the N64 lifestyle it must have been. 995 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,720 Yeah, it was, Yeah. Well, it was, it was December of 996 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:45,480 97, so it was only just over a year after it came out and in 997 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,280 the in all of 96 or, well, yeah, I guess so yeah, this was just 998 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,360 over a year. Yeah, it's it wasn't in that 999 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,520 first year there wasn't a ton of games for this console. 1000 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,240 This is around the time when the games really started pushing out 1001 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:03,560 even more for the console, because at first, for the first 1002 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,600 several months, you only had a handful of games. 1003 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,080 So this was pretty early on, yeah. 1004 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,120 Look at this Apparently reading the game was originally only 1005 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,760 planned for release in Japan, but Sunsoft and Nintendo thought 1006 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,960 children in the US would enjoy the title. 1007 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,160 Would they fuck? Would they buggery? 1008 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,760 I again, I I don't think it's all that bad. 1009 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,320 I'm not saying that you're you're saying that it's a 1010 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,560 terrible game or anything, but the shortcomings definitely are 1011 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,080 not are like are pretty glaring. Unfortunately. 1012 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,160 The good stuff is pretty good, but the shortcomings are pretty 1013 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,760 short and that's not a great thing and not a great way to 1014 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,720 sell hopefully, whether it's you and I or whether I play with 1015 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:47,720 someone else, Chameleon twist two, you know, fixes some of 1016 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,280 those or has better execution on some ideas. 1017 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,280 Whether they're new or old, it doesn't really matter. 1018 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,840 I'm interested. I'm at least interested to play 1019 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,000 the sequel you know as where as before. 1020 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,760 You know, if someone told me that this game is just so so and 1021 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,360 I never played it, I would be like well then I don't even need 1022 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,040 to bother with the sequel or even give it a try. 1023 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,200 I'm at least interested in picking up the next one. 1024 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,520 Let's see. There's a sequel. 1025 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,840 OK, Chameleon twist to what did that get for a racing did that 1026 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,240 get shit? Oh, better. 1027 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,240 Oh, OK, yeah. It again. 1028 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,200 Short can completely please it in a day. 1029 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,360 So yeah, that could be finished really too. 1030 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,440 So we're not doing if this thing, if this thing gets us 1031 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,600 freaking spin thing gets his chameleon twist too. 1032 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,360 I'm done. I'm really done. 1033 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,040 That would be hilarious. What are the what would be the 1034 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,200 odds? That would be amazing. 1035 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,360 Well, we're going to, we're going to do that. 1036 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,600 Let's do that in a couple of minutes here. 1037 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,800 But we're going to spin the wheel once again to see what the 1038 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,520 next game together that we're going to play is. 1039 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,080 Yeah, chameleon twist. I mean, it was, it was a it was 1040 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,040 a fun little adventure, I think. Or at least particularly a fun 1041 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,360 little adventure. Yeah. 1042 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,040 It was, it was all right. So if you had to score this out 1043 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,880 of 10 what you given it? This is going to be a six for 1044 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,520 me. Not terrible not amazing. 1045 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,760 Has some ideas, doesn't land all of them. 1046 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,240 But that's OK and that's what happens. 1047 00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:18,640 And early 64, yeah, I'd give it around six. 1048 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,880 I'm. Going to be a bit crueler and 1049 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,560 give it A5, and I think if it just solved a few little more 1050 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,960 things it probably would have been a six. 1051 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,600 But yeah, I just, I just wanted more levels. 1052 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,080 Like the, I'm going to say dessert, desert castle. 1053 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,760 I just wanted a few more levels like desert, desert, castle, 1054 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,640 Give me. If it was more levels like that, 1055 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,600 this would have been a lot higher. 1056 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,120 But no, it kept with a box thing. 1057 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,480 They don't know why they did that. 1058 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,360 And because Mario 64 was already out, they should look that as a 1059 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,560 template and go right, OK, how can we build on this? 1060 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,440 But they didn't. They went we'll go to boxes 1061 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,080 because obviously that freaking works. 1062 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,680 And yeah, it's just a bit, yeah. I'm with you. 1063 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:57,840 I totally agree. Yep. 1064 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,160 OK, let's shall we spin the wheel shall. 1065 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,080 We spin the wheel. This is gonna be interesting. 1066 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,040 OK, we're. Gonna do this. 1067 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,560 So if anyone hasn't heard yet, and you're listening to our 1068 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,240 little adventure duo here of us going through games of the N64 1069 00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:17,040 together, I have a list of the chronological releases of the 1070 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,960 N64 from 1:00 until 390. That's what I have a list list. 1071 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,640 I'm not sure it's 100% complete. There's definitely some Japanese 1072 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,640 only titles on here which we would, you know, have to emulate 1073 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,920 and stuff if we did. We've done this a couple times 1074 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,000 and we've ran, you know, landed on random games. 1075 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,320 So I have a random number generator from 1 to 390. 1076 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,680 If it hits anything that I've played before that we've played 1077 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,680 before, I just hit it again and then we just go from there. 1078 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:53,280 So we are spinning the wheel and we've landed on 243. 1079 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,040 OK, let's see in the list. Scroll down 243. 1080 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,120 We are looking at win back, Covert Operations. 1081 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,320 Oh, actually I know exactly what that game is. 1082 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,800 I've played that for a couple minutes. 1083 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:10,200 It is on Switch online. It's like a third person cover 1084 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,600 shooter type thing. Win back. 1085 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,080 Oh, yes. Yes. 1086 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,640 OK, I'm interested in playing this. 1087 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,720 I think I played like half of the first stage just to try it 1088 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:23,000 out not too long ago, but all right, that sounds pretty good. 1089 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,280 That's something different. We haven't. 1090 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,240 We haven't done something like that. 1091 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,760 We. Can we can get away with that? 1092 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,440 OK, at least we know we. Can access it, yes. 1093 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,960 That's a whole other thing too. That's nice. 1094 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,440 What a what a coincidence. Look at that. 1095 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,360 The small list of games that are on Switch online, It is. 1096 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,960 It is one of them. So there we go. 1097 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:39,520 Yeah. So if anyone, we'll. 1098 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,400 Take it, we'll. Take it It's something a little 1099 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,560 bit different. I don't think we've done 1100 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,200 something like this before. We've done fighters, we've done 1101 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,160 golf, we've done platformers, Why not do a a cover shooter? 1102 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,920 Let's do something like that. So win back Covert Operations. 1103 00:54:52,920 --> 00:55:00,680 There we go. Thank you once again everyone 1104 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,080 for listening to this adventure of Remember 64 and US playing 1105 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,440 and talking about Chameleon Twist. 1106 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,080 This platformer was a wacky adventure with some ups and 1107 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,240 downs, but hopefully if you've played it in the past or are 1108 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,560 thinking about it, you also enjoyed our chat about it as 1109 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,440 well. But that's pretty much it for 1110 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,360 this episode. 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