1 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Welcome to Remember 64, where this week we're remixing a smash 2 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,560 hit. See what they did there? 3 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,000 I'm so clever. Very good. 4 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,120 Welcome to the show, everyone. My name is David Betrangelo, and 5 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,000 look, I love me some deadly pink marshmallows that can suck up 6 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,360 anyone else's ability. Heck, I'll even mess with a 7 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,280 Pokémon that conjures lightning every once in a while. 8 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,120 But now I think I found my true calling. 9 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,920 I found a niche Japanese hero with a name I didn't even know 10 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,840 how to pronounce my entire life until last year. 11 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,760 That's my go to. Oh man, I'm jiggy, look back and 12 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,880 I'm here. I'm ready to bang. 13 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,560 I mean, smash, let's, smash let's. 14 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,640 Do it Sir. We are talking Smash Remix and 15 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,600 if anyone has not heard leading up to this episode, this is our 16 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,960 first venture into playing a mod for a game. 17 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:48,800 So if anyone doesn't know, Smash Remix is a mod from a group of 18 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,680 creators that got together over the last several years, I think 19 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,040 it was 2018 or 19. And they've built new levels, 20 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,600 new characters, new items, all for the original N64 Super Smash 21 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Brothers. And it's available. 22 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,280 It's in 1.5 now and we thought, you know what, we're going to 23 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,240 give it a shot. What a place to start and 24 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,759 something like Smash, Remix, Jiggy. 25 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,920 This is fun, man. I like, I I still like. 26 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:15,960 I know I've said it before, but this idea is just fun to go 27 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,320 through mods like this. Yeah, and you better, you know, 28 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,920 watch your eyes because all the characters and cosmetics and 29 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:27,360 stages and everything you're about to see or hear, I guess, 30 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,280 because technically it's a podcast, but you will see at 31 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,760 some point it's going to burn your retinas out. 32 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,080 It's it's it's overexposure to Pure awesome. 33 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,440 It's it's amazing. The overexposure of awesomeness. 34 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,760 There we go. Yes, it's really cool. 35 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,720 We're we. It radiates awesome. 36 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,480 It's damn, damn you got you're bringing the fire. 37 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,720 I like it and and one of the reasons or one of the one of the 38 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,680 bonuses about this episode, not only are we talking about 39 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,920 something different, we are going to talk about the original 40 00:02:57,920 --> 00:02:59,960 Smash Brothers a little bit and then we're definitely going to 41 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,280 dig into all the different things that go on with Smash 42 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,680 Remix. But we have a special guest that 43 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,000 we're going to be cueing into the show in just a moment. 44 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,160 Here he goes by the Smash Father. 45 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,960 That's right. He is the the lead project 46 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,920 manager I guess you could call it, of Smash Remix. 47 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:22,080 So one of the main, you know, creators, one of the main people 48 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,280 that made this a reality. So he's going to sit with us in 49 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,280 just a moment. We're going to talk about Smash 50 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,160 Brothers itself, Smash remix and toss a few fun ideas around and 51 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,080 and talk about our time playing it because it's it's been pretty 52 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,680 cool to to dig into this and I think we got lucky 1.5 just came 53 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,880 out yeah like a couple weeks ago. 54 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,480 So we just, we had this idea anyways and then we saw the 1.5 55 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,000 game and we went, well, it's a no brainer, we have to do this 56 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,200 now, yeah? We're doing it right now. 57 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,320 It it, it made it up. The list. 58 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,880 It was it was down. I don't know, it was still at 59 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,560 the top. It was still like top five of 60 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,920 mods we were going to do this year. 61 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,000 But the second that dropped with the intro and the special 62 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,160 character that got released, Yep, we're down. 63 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,760 And and that's just a little tease. 64 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,480 We will talk about that video. We will, if you're watching the 65 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,760 video version, I will be showing that video as well. 66 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,120 We'll talk about it because that video is, it's not just a 67 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,680 trailer. It's not just like 3 minutes of 68 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,959 like you know, like a movie trailer or something or a game 69 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,640 trailer. It's like 12 or 13 minutes of 70 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,720 just awesomeness. It's so cool. 71 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,720 There's so much going on. Lots to talk about in our chat. 72 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,600 So you know what, Jiggy? Let's just get right into it. 73 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,040 Let's get our guests in here and we'll talk some Smash Remix. 74 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,640 We have our special guest. We have project leader for Smash 75 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Remix. The Smash Father is joining us 76 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,680 on Remember 64. Welcome to the show. 77 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Thank you. Hello there. 78 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,240 Hello, Hello. How are you this fine evening? 79 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,200 I'm doing good. I'm doing good today. 80 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,920 How are you all? Yeah, we're hanging in there. 81 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,800 We're hanging in there. Yeah, yeah, pretty good. 82 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,080 Yeah, just just your average evening, but but with a decent 83 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,320 amount of Smash Brothers in the last couple of weeks, which is 84 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,760 awesome. So that's a that's a good bonus. 85 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Just so we can sort of start from the beginning, I guess in a 86 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,680 way you can kind of put it that way. 87 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,360 Smash Brothers, let's talk about your experience with Smash 88 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,760 Brothers, the original Smash Brothers on North 64 and maybe 89 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,200 even the the franchise moving forward sort of from there. 90 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,200 Did you grow up with it? Did you play it later? 91 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,400 Was it one of those like main Ted pool titles that you have 92 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,480 with the N64? What? 93 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,920 What's? What's your story with the game? 94 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,800 So I think I would have started playing when I was like 1/4 95 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,720 grader, which would have been in the 90s when it came out, 96 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 immediately when I saw it, I was enchanted. 97 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,880 It was like right up my alley. And we we just play it so much 98 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,840 as kids. I mean I was like 10 or 99 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:09,240 something like that and it was super fun and I loved it. 100 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,280 And then you know, you know, I I was always in the smash. 101 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:16,560 So I got like, I think I got Melee for my birthday and we 102 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,720 just played that all night. And you know, that was a blast. 103 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,240 And then, you know, Brawl happened. 104 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,720 We still played it. Brawl happened, you know, and 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,600 you know, then I kind of, you know, personal history. 106 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,960 Like I, you know, I got busy with other things. 107 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,280 I went to law school and I didn't really play Smash for a 108 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:39,960 while and then, you know, so I kind of settled into a new 109 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,080 place. I turned back to 64 and started 110 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 running tournaments if you want to and stuff. 111 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Like that. Nice, nice. 112 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,520 I mean, I I like the game, but I definitely didn't play 113 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,800 tournaments or get into tournaments. 114 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,640 But that's awesome. I definitely did play 115 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,880 tournaments, but I didn't play tournaments until Wii UI started 116 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,640 with Wii U and then moved into Ultimate, and then kids just got 117 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,160 too good and I'm out. It's. 118 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,360 Tough, Yeah, it's a tough racket. 119 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Honestly, online games, I I can't anymore. 120 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,200 It's like just it's not fair. It's not fair, man. 121 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,360 I can't. Do it. 122 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,320 You know what's interesting? So first, actually I do want to 123 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,280 ask you, what is your favorite Smash game? 124 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,200 If you had to say which one was your top one? 125 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Is it 64? Is it Melee? 126 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,600 Is it Ultimate? Which one do you think stands at 127 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,280 the Pinnacle, aside from Smash Remix? 128 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,200 At this point, it's definitely 64. 129 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,120 There were times I might, you know, kind of go back and forth 130 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,000 between 64 and Melee, but at this point I've committed so 131 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,120 much of my time and just gotten so kind of enamored with 64. 132 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,200 I'd say it's definitely, it's like it's the one on best tech 133 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,840 competitively for sure, But I think Melee is a great game too. 134 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,800 I had a lot of fun with Ultimate, you know? 135 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,880 I thought that was fun too. Even this got its own things 136 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,240 that I I don't necessarily love, but it's it's, I think it's 137 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,240 still really fun games. So I mean, I like, I've enjoyed 138 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,080 every Smash I've played. I didn't really play Smash Four. 139 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,920 Sorry Wii U fans. You know, Smash 4, you played 140 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,960 ultimate, you played Smash 4, roughly. 141 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,880 People are going to hate that I said that, but it's, you know, 142 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,000 it's very similar. Ultimate's just the better 143 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,680 version of four in my opinion. Granted, there are a few modes 144 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,160 that I did like in four that didn't transfer over. 145 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,520 I spent a lot of time in four, actually. 146 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,200 But interesting enough, I did a poll on my YouTube channel and 147 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,880 had I don't know how many 100 hundreds of people voted in. 148 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,440 In this poll, Brawl was a big contender. 149 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,680 Really. Which actually, I agree. 150 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,920 Brawl is probably my least favorite. 151 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,560 The Subspace Emissary was a cool idea, but tripping like, Oh 152 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:58,200 yeah, freaking hate tripping. I freaking hate The Hammer. 153 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,240 Losing its top. Like just the dumbest, the 154 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,520 dumbest editions. It had some of the smartest 155 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,240 editions, but. And Attic King DDD. 156 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,840 That was nice. That was cool. 157 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,920 We were all. Happy about that. 158 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,920 And Sonic I mean. You know, that was cool. 159 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,960 Yeah, it it's not. It's not all bad. 160 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,720 It's not it's not great, but it's not all bad. 161 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,200 Yeah. It's not all bad. 162 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,920 Still was fun. You know, it's not, it's not not 163 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,600 fun, but it's. Like, well, you know. 164 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,680 I have a downgrade but. Yeah, I mean, so, so now there's 165 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:33,280 like there's such a massive roster. 166 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,240 I'll, I'll go first on this question so I don't have to. 167 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,920 So you guys can think about it if you have to. 168 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:43,720 But just on the 64, the original 64 version before Remix came 169 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,600 around and and really expanded things here, I'm going to ask 170 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,440 you guys what your favorite character was or who your go to 171 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,560 was. Sometimes that's different, you 172 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:56,360 know, especially competitively for me, I was always comfortable 173 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,240 with Kirby. I don't know what it was just 174 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,200 always the case. Going back and playing it over 175 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,680 the years. He's still like probably just 176 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:07,920 what I'm comfortable with because I always played Kirby 177 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,640 back then, but I've gotten used to playing quite a bit of Mario 178 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,280 as well. Jiggy, what about you? 179 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,560 What's What are your go? To I'm 64 exclusive. 180 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,560 We're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 181 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:29,880 My main growing up was probably, it's a tough one. 182 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,760 I think I'd say Fox. I think I was a Fox player. 183 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:38,280 OK, I did play a lot of Kirby as well, but going back to it now, 184 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,920 I'm a Donkey Kong player. For sure. 185 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,520 Actually, Samus is one that I actually got used to too as time 186 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,120 went on. I like Samus like I like her 187 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,120 move set. Yeah, I just like the combos and 188 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,600 I feel like I can do pretty well as Donkey Kong, yeah. 189 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:56,080 But yeah, what about you, Sir? For me, it's always been. 190 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,880 I mean, since I was a kid, Pikachu has always been my my 191 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,760 favorite character in 64 and makes sense. 192 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,040 I'm still still my pretty much only character. 193 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,000 I can play well. So it's that's, yeah, it's a 194 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Pikachu. Yeah sometimes it's muscle 195 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,240 memory too right. I think that's the thing with me 196 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,560 and Kirby where it's like every time I press down BI know what's 197 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:18,680 gonna like. I I get it you know it's so 198 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:22,160 simple and and most characters like that too but something 199 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,040 about his where it's like Nope it's just a straight drop and 200 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,400 you're turning into one of several different items. 201 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,320 OK, let's let's dig into into Smash Remix. 202 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,600 Before you we brought you on the show. 203 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,280 We were just talking about how the fact that we wanted to 204 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,240 explore mods on remember 64 this year, we wanted to get into a 205 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,320 couple of games. Every every couple of episodes 206 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,400 we're gonna sort of dig into different mods and try it. 207 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,200 And then the second we saw that 1.5 was released, we said this 208 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,240 thing is hitting the top of the list. 209 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,640 We're doing it now. Not only that but but Smash just 210 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,320 had an anniversary a couple of days ago as of this recording, 211 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,600 which is great as far as. Yeah, as far as its release 212 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,920 goes. So that that that's awesome. 213 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,480 All right, Mr. Smash Father, how does something like this even 214 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,800 happen? 1.51 point O 0.5 whatever the 215 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,120 version is, How How do you even look? 216 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,320 I I don't know how to make games. 217 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,400 I don't know how to make mods. I don't know. 218 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,520 I am. I love games. 219 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,320 But I I am so far out of the realm of understanding. 220 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:27,520 I'm so impressed with the fact that anybody can make anything 221 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,120 like this. How does this get started? 222 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,480 And how do you get to be, like a project leader on something like 223 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,520 this? Well, it happened pretty 224 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,320 organically and some of it is a little bit of fortune on my 225 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,840 part. So, you know, I started running 226 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,280 tournaments here in Houston and I just wanted to find a ways to 227 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,320 attract people to my events basically. 228 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,480 So I started off with doing like cheap game shark stuff like oh, 229 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,320 we can play with like Metal Mario or like Final Destination, 230 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,160 you know, just doing random stuff and then like suddenly sub 231 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,680 drag who's made something called the Goldeneye editor and you 232 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:13,840 could make stages for Smash 64. And so I started doing that. 233 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,520 I made a Houston themed stages like you could play like the the 234 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,400 Astrodome and stuff like that just to get people to come out 235 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,080 to my events for my tournaments. You know, I started digging into 236 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,200 things and getting more interested in modding more and 237 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,800 doing more than just the stages and seeing what had been done. 238 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,440 And I saw there had been people who kind of had tinkered around 239 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,120 with making characters but never, never went all the way. 240 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,400 People had experimented, People thought about people had write, 241 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,520 wrote, wrote things up, but never really went all the way. 242 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,920 And I thought, well, I'm going to try now. 243 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,360 I had no form, I had no experience. 244 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,280 I had never coded anything. I have no artistic ability. 245 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,200 I was just a guy. It was. 246 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,840 Just a guy with a dream. It's just yeah. 247 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,680 And I was. I just started working on life. 248 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:08,400 I got some pieces. I I was connected very early on 249 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,520 with a person named Frey in the 64 community who's a very big 250 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,040 name. And he was just. 251 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,960 I couldn't have done it without him. 252 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,160 He was he advised me on how. He basically taught me how to 253 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,080 code. He kind of really showed me how 254 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,480 to hack things and I get into the code and all that. 255 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,640 And he helped me work with the original system with which we 256 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,280 coded. If you ever watched the old 257 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,760 trailers, the way we used to make models and everything was 258 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,160 very rough and it was very hard and didn't look very good. 259 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,240 But he helped me work through that and through that. 260 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,080 You know, even though it wasn't beautiful, you know, it just 261 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,320 attracted other people to actually work with me, you know, 262 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,520 I reached out to different folks, which, I mean, I became 263 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,400 AI was just a guy making it at first. 264 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,800 But once I had an actual work product, you know I can reach 265 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:03,040 out to people like our lead artist Soap, who is insanely 266 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,600 talented and we're fortunate to have well, as many other of our 267 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,400 artists, coders like. Yeah, it's a big all. 268 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,640 These people helped. Us it's a it's a big team like 269 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,640 for obviously it's it like you said it, it grows over the years 270 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,280 but it's like yeah, you can be you can be a project leader but 271 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,200 but this is a huge team effort. It's it's amazing. 272 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,720 Yeah, that would be nothing without my team. 273 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,760 Yeah, yeah. To piggyback off that I was 274 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,240 watching or I had just just before we hopped on, I played 275 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,280 through Smash Remix again and got to the credits. 276 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,240 And once I got past all the original credits, I was like, 277 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,200 OK, I want to see how many more come on. 278 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,680 And it went forever, man. It's like, but what I loved 279 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,240 about it, OK what I loved about it is I did click on them and a 280 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,960 lot of them just say funny things. 281 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,480 Oh. I didn't do that. 282 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,880 No way really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 283 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,360 I was clicking through one of them. 284 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,600 I I wish I could have. I wish I was recording or could 285 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,600 have gone back because one of them had like. 286 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,680 I don't know if it was it was like a code or something and I 287 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,240 was like. And this has has his in Morse 288 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,640 code I think. Yes. 289 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,160 I forget what it's I honestly don't remember what it says. 290 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,120 I saw it and I was like no I needed. 291 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,440 I needed to figure that out. But. 292 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,720 That's amazing. I have to, yeah. 293 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,960 It's a clue for fans. If you want to look into it, 294 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,200 it's in Morse code. I'm sure you know so you could 295 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,040 figure it out, but it's it's in Morse code. 296 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Amazing. Yeah. 297 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,680 So it's it's, it's this, it's this amazing group of of artists 298 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,840 and coders and everything. And I mean this isn't something 299 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,560 that we just said like you know, 1.5 was was just released in 300 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,240 early 2024. This has been going on on for 301 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,560 years. How do, how do, how do things 302 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,640 progress? Like, is it just, I mean, you 303 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,680 sort of mentioned how how things get started as far as working 304 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,280 with the team and all those types of things. 305 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,600 Also, the video that I'm showing, if anyone's watching 306 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,800 the YouTube version, I just got shot with a golden gun. 307 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,720 So they're like lots of really cool ideas. 308 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,520 And that's by the way, So we'll get to that. 309 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,000 But I thought that was hilarious, A great addition. 310 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,040 How do you. Yeah. 311 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,760 How, how does how do things get going? 312 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Like how do you decide like, Yep, this is ready to to to get 313 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,680 released. Let's, let's do this, Let's add 314 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,119 this character, Let's add that stage. 315 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,680 Like obviously it's a group effort and stuff, but how does 316 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,880 that sort of thought process happen with something like this? 317 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,040 Well, the the nature of that really evolved over time as far 318 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,080 as getting this stuff together. I mean, honestly, you just ask 319 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,640 people, right? People don't realize if you're 320 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,040 trying to build something, it's just like ask for help. 321 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,640 I I seriously will work as long as you show that you're willing 322 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,480 to work yourself. I mean, just ask people for 323 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,160 help. And I mean a lot of the people 324 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,560 on my team, I just literally rip one up to them is like, I like 325 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,240 your work. Would you like to work with me? 326 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,520 And that gets easier. The more credit you, you know 327 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,680 the more your stuff you do. But yeah, I was, I was working 328 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,320 on actually getting a mod like how much you want to do with 329 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,000 this, like at the with the getting out like 1.1 or 1.5, 330 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,120 like what do we want to put in there. 331 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:07,200 You kind of, you come up with a game plan and you know it's not 332 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,520 going to end up exactly how you originally envision. 333 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,520 And you think of like you obviously want to have a 334 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,000 character because that's like that's like you know, that's 335 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 what gets people gone. That's what's get the people 336 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,400 wild. They want their character, But 337 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,240 you know, you add other things too. 338 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,960 They kind of support that and make it interesting. 339 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,760 And it's challenging because you want to give yourself a 340 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,280 realistic goal, right? Because a lot of times with mods 341 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,720 you give yourself unrealistic expectations and you don't and 342 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,200 people won't keep themselves accountable. 343 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,000 You want to be like let's get want a good pace, get things 344 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,080 done. This is our timeline. 345 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,040 That's the challenging part. So but you try to have like you 346 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,360 don't want to go too far, so like a character to is good. 347 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,240 You start adding all this stuff it's way out of your skill zone. 348 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,040 You're going to find yourself in murky waters. 349 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,440 Right. So interesting to to play off 350 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,240 that. So as far as content wise, in 351 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,840 this game we have new characters. 352 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,360 I didn't count out exactly how many, but we have new characters 353 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:12,360 we have. There are even more new stages, 354 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,200 like I was really blown away with stages like you have to go, 355 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,120 you have to cycle through the right there's there's so many, 356 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:23,360 you got new items, new music tracks, just so much new modes, 357 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:28,560 new game modes entirely, just so much is packed into this. 358 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,120 So my question on that, we did an episode, specifically an 359 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:36,600 episode about Goldeneye and how people are going to ring me out 360 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,200 for this because I don't remember what the number was, 17 361 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,400 megabytes was the totals like capacity of the game, that's how 362 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,600 big the game was. Is that something you need to 363 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:54,960 consider as far as because it is a mod it is running on like you 364 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,680 know emulators or ever drives or what what not it? 365 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,240 Yeah, we're we're, I think we might be bumping up against a 366 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,760 limit, possibly. People have been mentioning it 367 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,840 cause like I said, we set like a size for like the ROM, right? 368 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,560 So when you get the ROM, well, we don't, we don't give you the 369 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,200 ROM, but we give you like the little, yeah. 370 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,400 It's like a patch. Basically when you get that it 371 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,040 tells you all the changes you need to make and you know one of 372 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,360 that is a setting the ROM size. So I think currently I think 373 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:29,480 ours literally says like 64 MB. It's exactly 60. 374 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,160 Four, yeah. Yeah, that might be as big as 375 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,320 she can go. I'm not don't quote me on that 376 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,360 one. But that might be that might be 377 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,400 as big as it gets. And after that it might you. 378 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Right. Run into hardware issues with 379 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,480 like how big the 60. It would just be random. 380 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,760 You know, like 6064 megabytes isn't a real it's only to do. 381 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,880 I know it's a Nintendo 64, so it sounds like it should be how big 382 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,200 it should be, but it's entirely irrelevant. 383 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,120 But it might actually be the maximum size we can get our our 384 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,840 file system to do. So it hasn't been really a big 385 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,760 concern and if we ever really were concerned we could find 386 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,800 ways to work with it. But yeah, I mean there's there's 387 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,880 an upper limit to how big these things could be on on if you 388 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,560 wanna stay on hardware. Which we do right. 389 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,760 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think that's, I think 390 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,320 that's the charm, right? That's that's the cool thing 391 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,680 about this, is that it can run on the actual hardware. 392 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,280 And like, I play it on my actual 64, and there's just something 393 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,720 about it, it it almost provides legitimacy to it. 394 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,640 You know what I mean? It's it's got this, this aura 395 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,000 about it that you're like, wow, this is exactly what I wanted 396 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,600 Smash Bros to grow into. Like, it's how I imagined the 397 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,840 sequel before Melee was a thing. You know, under my head. 398 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,680 I'm like how much more characters, like, conquers in 399 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,840 it. Like conquer? 400 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:53,600 Oh my gosh. I you know what? 401 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,840 That's actually a good way to put it too. 402 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,520 Because like I I did the same thing. 403 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,800 I I had it on an actual hardware with the controller, every, 404 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,840 everything. It felt like, sure, I'm sitting 405 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,600 in front of a different screen than I used to. 406 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,480 It's not acrt that I'm that I'm playing this thing on, but it 407 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,360 it's just it just feels like the the real game. 408 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,320 It doesn't feel like this is like I I think it's impressive 409 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,440 on its own that it doesn't feel like it's a mod. 410 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,480 It doesn't feel like it's something that was made, you 411 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,400 know, 20 years later, 20 plus years later, Like it just feels 412 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,280 like the game and what it is supposed to be. 413 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320 And I think that's a testament to to yourself and everyone else 414 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,640 that's been that's been creating this over the years. 415 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,720 It's man, it's it's it's so it's so crazy because like you said 416 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,800 before, jiggy, there's also all these different modes. 417 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,480 Is it All Star mode? I keep forgetting the name 418 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,520 exactly of what it is. There's remix. 419 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,520 There's All Star. Yeah, there's a bonus. 420 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,600 The race to the finish is different. 421 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,760 Yeah, I love that. That's cool. 422 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:59,080 All these things are there like for example the All Star mode is 423 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280 you're going through the roster of of characters and you're 424 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,400 fighting all of them with only a couple of chances to heal up and 425 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,720 and eventually you're you're fighting in pairs and all that. 426 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,920 All this stuff would be so crazy back in the day to just be like 427 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,800 OK, who can get the furthest? And I'm just sitting here on my 428 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,240 own just you know sucking at the game. 429 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,600 Honestly, I'm not. I'm not that good at it. 430 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,840 But but having a great time with it, it's I are are these modes 431 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,600 like what? What's sort of like the largest? 432 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,440 My question sort of around this, my long winded way of asking it 433 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,640 is like is it challenging to create new modes as far as 434 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,040 things go or is it more like the characters and balance and 435 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,120 things like that? What's sort of like the the 436 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,760 biggest challenge I guess hurdle. 437 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,240 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 438 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,680 So modes like, so the first time I made a mode probably was kind 439 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,600 of difficult every like just getting into the weeds, 440 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,720 understanding first time you do anything, it's challenging. 441 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,920 Sure. And all subsequent modes I'd say 442 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,680 aren't honestly that hard but are more. 443 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,240 It's more frustrating. It's the nature of the code is 444 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,440 like it's it's like gosh if it feels like when I'm making a new 445 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,160 mode it's like I have to like fight through. 446 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,760 You're fighting yourself because you make code that when you were 447 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,280 when you first start writing code your your code isn't quite 448 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,120 up to par and so you get to fight your old code and revise 449 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:21,560 it. You learn new things you didn't 450 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,960 know about the general code and you know so the the modes I'd 451 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,760 say they're not the hardest thing I mean the most time 452 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,440 consuming. The biggest feature that takes 453 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,120 the longest, most drain on our resources would be animations. 454 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,920 Making nice animations that look good that feel era appropriate. 455 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,160 It takes a long time, takes tons of revisions. 456 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,760 That's going to be the longest, the biggest. 457 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,480 That. And of course just coding takes 458 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,840 long too, because the coding also is you can make moves that 459 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,440 feel really weird and don't don't feel good, don't feel up 460 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,000 era appropriate, but you got that, you got to make them feel 461 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,200 right. Makes sense. 462 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,000 You know, like we have, I'm, I'm soon going to be making a a kind 463 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,880 of cut content thing for Remix and there's a lot of moves we 464 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,640 just had to cut because like they didn't feel right or they 465 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,880 didn't work with 64 as well as we hoped. 466 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,320 I was like, yeah, you know, I would say, you know, the biggest 467 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,520 time sync is animations, most challenging thing. 468 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,880 The biggest commitment is just making the character. 469 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,480 Making a character is probably the biggest task. 470 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,840 There's so much to do, so much love and hard work goes into it. 471 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,040 The character's the biggest thing. 472 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,160 Yeah, yeah, animation's the biggest part of. 473 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,720 It I could see that that that makes sense because like what we 474 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,040 were just saying is is like it feels like you're playing this 475 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,360 game, like this is this feels like what this game was supposed 476 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,880 to be. You know, whatever supposed to 477 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,040 be. It's not like they did a bad job 478 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,640 originally. We're not you know, sliding the 479 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:59,000 actual original title. But it's but it's it it just 480 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,600 feels right. So whatever effort and time that 481 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,520 everyone's put into it, it's I I think it's paid off. 482 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,400 So sorry. Yeah, for sure. 483 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:13,040 And the the whole, as far as the character models themselves, 484 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,120 like they feel like you you mentioned and I love that 485 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:23,600 they're era relevant, right? So they look how I imagined they 486 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,160 would look if they were running on the original Smash, not 487 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,920 necessarily from their game. Banjo being released was very 488 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,440 interesting because I looked at him and I was like, yes, this 489 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,800 seems like the perfect translation from Banjo Kazooie 490 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:44,160 to Smash Bros on the N64 because you think the models get a 491 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,320 little more low Poly. Like it just it meshed so well. 492 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,760 It does. None of the characters stand out 493 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,880 like, oh, this one's really high Poly. 494 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800 This one's, you know, this one looks significantly better or 495 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,480 more detailed than any of the others. 496 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,400 They all feel genuinely like they could have been on the 497 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,880 original 64 version of Smash, which is awesome. 498 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,680 I love that is there. It's not. 499 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,680 A deal. It's a really challenging 500 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,880 balance because obviously one thing is to look good, but you 501 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,920 you you had to not only make it look good for the 64, but like 502 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,200 there's a specific style to the way they make things look in 503 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Smash Bros And of course it is a lower Poly because you you have 504 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,640 to, you do have to deal with the console's limitations. 505 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,440 If you make a high Poly character, they're literally 506 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,480 going to slow down the game. Like Bowser, when he first was 507 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,000 released, he was a little bit too high Poly, so we'd had 508 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,760 competitive players complain about him. 509 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,760 So we had to work on his model. So like, there's a lot of things 510 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,520 to balance when making the models. 511 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,520 And you know, models aren't the hardest part, but they are a 512 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,120 part that requires a lot of work. 513 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,600 We always joke like when the models don't, we're like, well, 514 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,000 guys, we're halfway there. Because the model is honestly, 515 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,680 people who don't know will think like, here's the model, like we 516 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,120 can just make a character. It's like the model is probably 517 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,440 the least important part, but it is. 518 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,160 We do have to put a lot of effort into that too, to make it 519 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,040 look right and make it function right within the game. 520 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,240 And Banjo was a challenging 1 because the way the textures 521 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,240 work and Banjo Kazooie, the way that looks, it just, you know, 522 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,520 it wouldn't work for 64, it wouldn't look right. 523 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,600 It it, it's too complicated. So we kind of looked at how D KS 524 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,720 fur works and we kind of looked at that, but like we didn't 525 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,200 obviously just make D KS fur, we we made it. 526 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,280 So it's banjos and it was unique. 527 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,760 But you do, you have to look at what exists in 64 and what would 528 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,800 work and it's it can be challenging to balance all those 529 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,000 things and balancing what you want, you know, because you want 530 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,920 everything to look good but also play good. 531 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,760 So it's it's it can be a balance. 532 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,160 What's what's interesting too is the fact that some characters 533 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,920 it's it's really obvious when you felt like their move set in 534 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,200 a future game like an ultimate or Brawl. 535 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,400 I'm I'm thinking of Wolf in particular like the move set is 536 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,320 fairly similar but then you have Banjo who I actually main Banjo 537 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,560 in ultimate. So going to this he was 538 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,880 dramatically different. His move set was more Kazooie 539 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:21,160 based I'd say than Tui. Although he does have the not 540 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,720 the beat Buster but the drill I I don't know why I'm blinking. 541 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,680 Yeah, I. Don't. 542 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200 Yeah, but it's. Just the. 543 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,960 Drill, drill. Drill, yeah. 544 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,440 Drill bill, but that's it. Thank you. 545 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680 But it's just, it's just really interesting how it's kind of 546 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040 like you pick, you pick and chose elements that you're like, 547 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,320 yeah, that works, that feels good. 548 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:44,360 And then you completely changed others and I think you made 549 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,880 Sonic way better. Like Sonic feels way better in 550 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,440 Smash Remix than he does in any other Smash game. 551 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,920 His he has more than just spin, dash and homing attack. 552 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,880 It's amazing. I I. 553 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,240 Felt I wasn't big into his kit because Sonic is usually viewed 554 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,440 as annoying. Yeah, a lot of people always 555 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,320 complain about him. So our our main you know game 556 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,120 designer Frey, he took all, you know he really worked to make 557 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,840 him not annoying but also still good character, which he is. 558 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,160 Something that took that took some time and we didn't want to 559 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,960 make him be a nuisance with his homing attack and with you know 560 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,080 just doing stupid stuff that makes people annoyed with him. 561 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,760 We we we avoid that as best we could. 562 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,200 He's got the best, best meteor smash. 563 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,400 Oh yeah, That thing we like? Yeah, that's. 564 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,800 That's a long thing. Yeah. 565 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,200 He's good, Yeah. I I wanted to add that now 566 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,000 people will say we we took that from Project M, but it's not 567 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,360 true. Sonic battle. 568 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,920 Yeah, I I played Sonic Battle, you know, and I was like, I know 569 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,920 we should add this move as to be so great and like and everyone's 570 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,400 just like, oh like Project M and they're like, gosh damn it. 571 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,480 People don't know. Project MI don't know if you 572 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,960 guys have watched the episode of South Park where like Simpsons 573 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,960 did it every time on the episode of South Park, they're like, oh, 574 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,000 The Simpsons have already done that. 575 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Kind of state, right? Project M is The Simpsons to us, 576 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,280 where it's just like, oh, Project M did that, It's like. 577 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Gosh, damn it. Come on. 578 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,040 Yeah. He's he's very good. 579 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,880 I I had a good time playing around with Sonic for sure. 580 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,080 I played him a bit in Ultimate but but he I I couldn't actually 581 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,920 couldn't couldn't tell that it just to try. 582 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,000 I mean it's such a huge roster I got to try everybody as far as 583 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,400 the as far as the characters go I mean it's it's impressive how 584 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,840 many are added over the last. I guess it's been about five 585 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,160 years now that that things have been going but are are the 586 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,720 decisions just like, hey, we like this character, let's, 587 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,200 let's try and explore that. Is it coming from outside And 588 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,160 like, oh, this one seems like it's getting the buzz. 589 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,960 Let's, let's try. We got to get, we got to get 590 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840 Banjo Kazooie in there. Oh, we got to get Sonic in 591 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,640 there. Like, is that decision again, 592 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,720 like you said, is it just organic like other stuff has 593 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,240 been? Or is it more fine-tuned than 594 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,240 that, if that's the way to say it? 595 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,520 So it's evolved out of the time. Originally it was really limited 596 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,360 to what was our capabilities, which were far more limited 597 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,120 originally. So, you know, we were doing 598 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,960 clones and it was kind of like, you know, I couldn't really code 599 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,880 that much and you know, we couldn't, we didn't have 600 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,480 animators really at the time, like you were really limited. 601 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,640 And as we've grown gotten better and more skilled, it's like less 602 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,120 about our capabilities because we can kind of do what we want. 603 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,200 So it started off being like very capability based, like, OK, 604 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,960 I'm making Endor if he's a clone, I could do that by myself 605 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,000 or like, you know, Doctor Mario and those kind of characters, it 606 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,200 was kind of like, well, this is where we have capabilities. 607 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Your capabilities are always a factor. 608 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,040 But now is later on it became less of a thing we really had to 609 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,920 worry about. And then it kind of became about 610 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,320 like, well, you know what, once we narrowed in on that we wanted 611 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,760 to be. It wasn't always that I wanted 612 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560 to be kind of a ode to the Nintendo 64. 613 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Originally. I just wanted to make it like 614 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,360 cool competitive characters. That was my original thought, 615 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:07,200 like good competitive characters for 64 or something kind of like 616 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,320 that just make it more interesting. 617 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,480 But as time around, it's like, well, OK, there are mod is kind 618 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,880 of an ode to the 64 and what characters do we need to add. 619 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,960 So, you know, getting where we're getting our roster now, 620 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960 we're kind of, you know, at the end of things, I, you know, I 621 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,840 feel I was like, you know, we need to do banjo. 622 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,000 This is a character that personally I did not play a lot 623 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600 of Banjo Kazooie. I'm sorry folks. 624 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,760 I know I should have. I played it a little bit, but I 625 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,440 didn't own it. We didn't have a lot of 64. 626 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,800 We didn't have a lot of games back then. 627 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,320 I had to rent games. I was not rich. 628 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,480 I'm sorry. We played like insane games 629 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,040 50,000 times over. But I played a lot of smash for. 630 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,840 I was in Mario 64, but you know, I knew Banjo had to be done. 631 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,480 It's like Banjo is a must have at the end and like there are 632 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,160 other ones that I just thought like this is a 64 character, 633 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,720 Conquer is just so 64, he's 64. He had to be done. 634 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,920 And plus he had so many different things. 635 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,840 You gotta think of like does this character have a cool move 636 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,360 set that we could make interesting? 637 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,199 Conquer had so many things available to him with his all 638 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,000 his weapons. His stuff is so he can pull. 639 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,199 Something out? It's so fun. 640 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,000 You think I love it? So like characters like going on 641 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,120 and Marina and Banjo, just like, wow, that character feels so 64 642 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,600 and so of the era and we can think of a creative move set 643 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,199 that let's do it. That's what it became at the 644 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,159 end, where originally it was like what do we have the 645 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,159 capabilities for? And ultimately, as a team 646 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,400 leader, you got to think of like what? 647 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,400 I can't just be unilaterally. Well, there have been times, but 648 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120 even I can't just be like, I wanna make this. 649 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,840 So we're gonna do it. I have to have the support of my 650 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,679 team. If if my artist doesn't wanna 651 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,639 make it or my animators don't wanna animate it or my coders 652 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,040 don't wanna code it like it's it's not gonna happen. 653 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,120 So it is kind of organic in that sense. 654 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,920 We don't really care what other people want, you know, if you 655 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,960 ask for characters, it's not something we're considering, but 656 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,840 we do think about like, what makes sense, you know, if it if 657 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,160 it's gonna make people happy, that that's always nice. 658 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,320 But we really make the mod in a sense for ourselves, to be 659 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,200 honest. But we just think about what 660 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,400 would what's an ode to the 60 fours, what we've been doing 661 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,720 lately, what's what makes sense there, and what what's fun, 662 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,360 what's gonna be a fun character to play? 663 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:35,840 So then the question turns into are there characters that you 664 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,400 wanted to put in and decided against? 665 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,960 Because you mentioned cut content. 666 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,080 You don't have to spoil it if that's something coming up, but 667 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,640 if you want to name like one or something if. 668 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,520 You want to like, you know, if you want to, yeah, if. 669 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,880 You want to just throw something out there and then the other 670 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,800 thing is there, you reaching the limit, you're at 64 megabytes 671 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Max capacity here, right? Is there plans for any more 672 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,440 updates? Is this the end? 673 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,440 Is this like everything minor after this, like no more 674 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,920 characters or is there a a stance on that? 675 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,160 Just what are your thoughts on those? 676 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Yeah. So we kind of leave it open 677 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,360 ending and if there's going to be any more updates, it's just 678 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,520 going to be one of those things like it it could happen, it 679 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,520 might not. Right now I feel fulfilled where 680 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,880 I am at. I'm I'm kind of going to be 681 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,880 taking the step back from things and more have a more of a, I 682 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,840 don't know, an ownership role, ACEO type role. 683 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,400 I have kind of put some other people in charge and I'm kind of 684 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,720 letting my team decide how they want to continue. 685 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:39,320 So will there be another you know, addition, you know they'll 686 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,400 be bug fixes for sure like that. You know they'll be like you can 687 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,040 count on certain things being fixed. 688 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,640 You know, there might be a 1.5. There will definitely be 689 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,000 something beyond 1.5 right now. Will there be, you know, new 690 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,960 characters, new stages? You know you'll have to wait and 691 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,720 see. I can't. 692 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,880 I can't give you an answer there. 693 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,640 That's just gonna depend on what the team's feeling and if I feel 694 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,280 it's appropriate. Can't wait till Rayman's added. 695 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,360 We'll we'll see about that. Now you mentioned the cut 696 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,600 characters. I was thinking what's a like a a 697 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,960 small one? I could throw one that I, you 698 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,400 know, I'm going to speak on this in the in the video, but like 699 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,000 one that this is, it's gonna be random for people that we really 700 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,680 wanted. The early days was Raichu. 701 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:31,440 Me and one of the artists on the team are just big Raichu fans 702 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320 and we were doing clones, so we thought it made sense. 703 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,560 And he had this model for Raichu that was just so good. 704 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,880 And you know how Pikachu has those birthday hats. 705 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,960 Julie Puff has the bows he made. We we went since. 706 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,640 He's kind of like Lieutenant Serge is kind of like a 707 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,400 Lieutenant, right. You know, there's a military guy 708 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,520 and Raichu's kind of associated with Lieutenant Serge. 709 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,640 We gave Raichu A beret and it looks so cool. 710 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,880 He was this like special operations Raichu. 711 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,440 And ultimately, we didn't go that route because tail would 712 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,320 have been such a thing to animate. 713 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,640 You make a clone, you're hoping to reuse animations, right? 714 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,440 That's the big benefit. But with ride shoe with his 715 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,840 tail, you really don't get much of A benefit 'cause you have to. 716 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,000 That tail is so different from Pikachu's tail, you have to 717 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,000 reanimate the whole thing. So it wasn't very valuable. 718 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,640 It wasn't like a value add to do ride shoe and ride shoe just 719 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,280 never came to be. Although I one of the melee mods 720 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,960 made Raichu afterwards which I thought was was pretty cool. 721 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,880 I never, I never played it but I I was like oh someone else made 722 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,040 Raichu. That's that's cool. 723 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,920 Nice. We shared shared love for the 724 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,000 Pokémon. Yeah, why not? 725 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,760 Yeah, I guess that's that's something too, right? 726 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,720 Like Pokémon in general. I mean, yeah, there's there's a 727 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,720 few and there's definitely more than a few at this point in the 728 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,480 in the later smashed games. But like there's literally 729 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,520 hundreds you could choose from like, but, but but like you 730 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,720 said, it has to make sense for the 64, has to make sense for 731 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,560 that era. All those decisions that you 732 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,600 guys have made that the team has made as far as making it a 733 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,800 reality is, is it's awesome that all of that stuff is taken into 734 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,120 consideration is what I gotta say. 735 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,360 I guess basically I man, I suck at this game so bad. 736 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,840 I'm watching like. I'm watching your game play too. 737 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,320 I'm so bad that I think this was like one of the first. 738 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,960 This might have been the first time that I picked it up. 739 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,440 I I want to say about the characters too. 740 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,760 I'm I'm very there's something about the fact that Goemon is in 741 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:44,960 it and Marina something about those two feels even extra this 742 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,760 era because we haven't seen either of those since. 743 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,720 If I'm not if I'm not mistaken so. 744 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,040 And I I think Marina has one of the most unique move sets 745 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,440 because like in her game like in mischief makers and in this 746 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,400 there's a lot of like grabbing you know or you can you know the 747 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,520 way the projectiles were And she has like she has the pot and she 748 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,440 has her. Her jumps are different like all 749 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,320 of that stuff feels so her which is amazing. 750 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,840 And I really got used to playing Goleman. 751 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,560 He is now probably my go to I don't know what it is but his 752 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,400 move set just clicked with me. I don't know if you had like a. 753 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,600 A favorite GUI. You're playing through it and 754 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,320 and as far. As Oh yeah, Sonic. 755 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,640 So it was Sonic for the new ones. 756 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,720 Oh yeah, I loved his his meteor kick. 757 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,000 Every time I landed it, I was just like, hell yeah. 758 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,720 Yeah, it Gorman's thing felt, I think he felt a little bit 759 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,080 familiar in some ways. Like he has some projectile, he 760 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,840 has some close quarter stuff. He has, you know, his his cloud 761 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,080 that he can fly on that saves. I use that quite a bit because 762 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,880 again, I'm not very good at this, but but he's fun and he's 763 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,960 such a goofy character. Like he's such a a randomly 764 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,560 goofy character. I find that it's always fun to 765 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,520 sort of embody that Mister Smash Father, is there a particular, 766 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,040 do you you don't have to say favorite, 'cause I'm sorry, it's 767 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,200 hard to pick a it's hard to pick a favorite kid, you know what I 768 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,800 mean? But was there or is there a 769 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,760 favorite in the in the new group at least? 770 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,840 It depends on what you're looking for. 771 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,880 So I have, Nah, I was never a huge Gandorf fan. 772 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,080 Like people, I've heard people say like, oh, there's some 773 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,320 Gandorf fanboy runs Smash 64. I was not a huge Gandorf fan, 774 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,520 but I became one just because he kind of has emotional 775 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,520 significance. He's the first character I ever 776 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,000 made that was such a triumph for me. 777 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,120 And he's kind of to me, he's our mascot. 778 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,360 Gandorf is is the mascot of of Smash Remix. 779 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,000 So I have a deep affection there as far as who I'm gonna playing 780 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,720 with. Who's you know of the remix 781 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:51,040 cast. I you know I not bad with going 782 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,000 on I guess but like Bowser and DDDI like the big guys so I can 783 00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,440 play with them pretty well. Surprisingly well, considering I 784 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,280 I barely have time to play. But you know, those are really 785 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,080 good. I'm a huge Sonic fan. 786 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,600 It's hard to yes. Once again, I'm not really. 787 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,360 I'm not going to give you a true answer, Yeah. 788 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,200 No, that's that's totally fair. A huge Sonic fan. 789 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,960 That was a huge thing for me to add him. 790 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,560 I was definitely, you know, vehemently I I forced us to have 791 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,360 Classic Sonic. I was, I know members of team 792 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,040 really liked Sonic Adventure. Sonic, and that's fine. 793 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,400 Sonic Adventure came out before Smash Bros, which like I was 794 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,240 there. Like, I literally, I was live, I 795 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,360 was experienced it, and it doesn't seem right to me. 796 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,720 It didn't seem like it was real, but it happened, you know, like 797 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,800 it came like Sonic Adventure came out before Smash Bros and I 798 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,800 just, I don't believe it. But that's what history is, I 799 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,600 guess. And so I was like, fine, we can 800 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,680 have Sonic Adventure, Sonic, but we have to have Classic Sonic. 801 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,520 Yeah. So, you know, I mean, I love 802 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,640 Sonic too. There's there's a lot of 803 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,400 characters to love and going on was big for me. 804 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,480 Going on was kind of the one where I was like we're making 805 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,000 going on. Nice. 806 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,760 And but then all everyone started playing his games and 807 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,000 fell in love with them along the way, right? 808 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,000 And that's that's how we got ABC Morrow. 809 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,960 Like I had no interest in having ABC Morrow, but the team fell in 810 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,360 love. With such a goo. 811 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,800 It's amazing. ABC Morrow. 812 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,960 So ABC Morrow, you know, came into reality, Yeah. 813 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,240 Especially in the 64 games, that guy is just hilarious. 814 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:31,080 He's just so goofy. It's amazing. 815 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,800 I I know, I know the gome on characters from, I think it's 816 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,360 called is it called Legend of Mystical Ninja for Super 817 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,840 Nintendo? That I had that game growing up, 818 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,200 not not knowing anything about it, not knowing it was even a 819 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,000 series. I had no idea and it was Co-op 820 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,520 so me and my brother could play it together. 821 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:54,560 We probably never really knew what we were doing 'cause it's 822 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,480 not a simple game for like a A5 and A and an 8 year old to be 823 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,320 playing. But but I was like oh, I know 824 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,800 this, I know this guy. Like when I got a 64 and 825 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,880 realized that there was more characters and it was still the 826 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,320 same. I I just there's something about 827 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,040 it about that about that franchise about that series that 828 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,480 it was it was it was a it's a very charming addition in my in 829 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:21,080 my opinion to to smash remix so. Yeah, I also think, I also think 830 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,760 that the characters having alternate skins that just 831 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,440 changed them completely is awesome. 832 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,400 I love that you can do the entire Starfox team. 833 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,480 You can be slippy. You can be Falco, you can be 834 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,560 peppy. The fact you can switch between 835 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,200 Giga Bowser and Bowser, even that's super cool. 836 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,080 Supersonic Sonic to Supersonic. I love, I love stuff like that. 837 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,600 And I feel like you really gave quite a few options for every 838 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,480 character. Like, you can even do like the 839 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,840 Polygon versions. The Fighting Polygon team just 840 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,720 really cool. And Bowser's Fighting Polygon 841 00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:01,600 team looks like Godzilla. And it's really it's really 842 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,840 sweet. Oh, that's the intent. 843 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,040 Yeah, it was. That was definitely an intent. 844 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,840 Very good, like Godzilla reference in there. 845 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,440 And yeah, I almost wanted to give people, you can see that 846 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,560 with the character. You've seen the character menu 847 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,160 where you have so many options. You can play the giants, you can 848 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,240 play with random hit boxes. To me, it's just like it's all 849 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:22,840 about letting people play the way they want to play. 850 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:31,120 Unless that involves turning on tap jump, but. 851 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,520 That's the one. That's the last thing. 852 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,600 No, not. Happening. 853 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,240 Yeah, it's never gonna happen, not as long as I'm alive. 854 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,560 But we just wanna give options to people to play the way that 855 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,320 they wanna play. And so we have all these zany 856 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,160 options. Honestly, an overwhelming amount 857 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,640 of options. It it is, it is. 858 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,240 It'd be fun. Yeah, yeah, I I was never a kid. 859 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,720 You mentioned Gameshark way at the beginning here, but you 860 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:00,800 mentioned, you know, Gameshark and those types of of products 861 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,520 that were out back in the day. I never had one of those. 862 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,640 I had a couple friends that didn't. 863 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,360 That was it. But I was never like the person 864 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,120 to even just have a strategy guide for a game. 865 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,200 I just played the game and like that was kind of it, right? 866 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,640 But you don't need a game shark with Smash Remix. 867 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,800 You can just, you can play it and it's got, like you said an 868 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,120 overwhelming amount of options And to sit down like we played 869 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480 this solo. But to sit down and play Smash 870 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,760 Remix with friends, which I fully plan to do at some point, 871 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,840 is just going to be it. Like they probably won't even 872 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:39,480 they, they don't have, you know 64 ROMs available or an ever 873 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,440 drive like I do and definitely don't have an N64 podcast. 874 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,640 So they're not sort of watching all these things like I am. 875 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,640 But I'm gonna show this to them and they are going to be blown 876 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,320 away. I I still have a couple friends 877 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,920 that I played this game with back in the day and I know that 878 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,240 they're gonna just, they're gonna, they're gonna lose their 879 00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,240 shit. Just plain simple. 880 00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:00,960 They're gonna lose their shit. I know they are and it's. 881 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,560 Gonna be you definitely should do is. 882 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,680 I don't know if you guys know know this or not because this 883 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,880 has been for like a patch or two is you want to do one player 884 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,160 mode with one of your friends playing it as ACPU and if you've 885 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,080 seen that option. No, I did not see I. 886 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,320 Did if you press, yeah, basically I think you press Z. 887 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,840 This is a mode I designed. If you press Z when you're on a 888 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,160 1P mode, it could be regular 1P, could be remix 1P you'll get. 889 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,440 You'll hear the laugh of Master Hand and your opponent. 890 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,480 Your friend will be able to play as ACPU in A1 player mode and 891 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,520 like that's a blast for people to play through. 892 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,440 That's. Awesome. 893 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,000 Wow. If one you know, I would advise 894 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000 against doing very hard mode, you know? 895 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:46,440 And your friend's gonna be a lot better, most likely than than 896 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,120 the CPU. So don't make it too hard on 897 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,160 yourself, but it's it's really fun to play as. 898 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,640 Actually, Jiggy, that's awesome. You were saying before that you 899 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,040 found the game to be to be fairly difficult. 900 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,120 I don't know if it's just muscle memory is not there in the same 901 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,840 way I Me too. I mean, I said I I stink at this 902 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,840 game, but I think I was kind of always not that great. 903 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,480 I I. Was particularly like one-on-one 904 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,160 I was having no problem like all the all the fights were were 905 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,520 fine. But going up against Giga Bowser 906 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,720 specifically and the Giant and I had a giant variation of Sonic 907 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:22,520 playing through the remix mode. I found it very hard. 908 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,480 Like very hard. Like. 909 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,400 I mean, I was getting obliterated. 910 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,880 Yeah, the intention with Remix 1P was to make a a harder mode 911 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,240 than the original like 1P mode was to give people more of a 912 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:42,480 challenge. So like it's at least scaled up. 913 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,880 We've tried to balance it more and make it a little bit more 914 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,960 less brutal, but maybe there's some more room to gain there. 915 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,320 But yeah, the goal is to make remix 1P, like loose a stage or 916 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,720 two up from the difficulty of the original game, just to give 917 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:02,240 people who've been playing forever an additional challenge, 918 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:05,200 basically. So yeah, if you're on very easy, 919 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,240 you know, don't, don't feel bad because like, it's more like 920 00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:11,920 you're on, you know, easier normal mode. 921 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,440 I was. Don't feel bad. 922 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,280 If you play Very Easy on Remix 1P, you're really playing what 923 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,360 would be like the equivalent of like easy or normal mode on one 924 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,200 P mode, the regular 1P. So that makes sense. 925 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,040 The intent was to give a new challenge there. 926 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,040 Yeah, I think I it's not that the the game definitely does not 927 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,200 feel unbalanced at all. For me, I felt like, Oh my God, 928 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,000 I forgot how to do this the way I'm supposed to. 929 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,840 Like, it took, it took me a few rounds to really be like, Oh 930 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,440 yeah, shit, like I'm not playing Kirby, you know, like that's. 931 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,080 That's kind of like, I think. I think part of that too is you 932 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,000 have to get used to what when you're playing the newer games 933 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,560 there's a, there's a lot of frame buffer between your button 934 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,160 presses your input presses and I feel like you go back to the 64 935 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,320 or even melee like you. It's probably even more 936 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,360 particularly melee. It's just things are so tight 937 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,840 and there's no, there's no buffer for that. 938 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,160 It's like you got to, you got to nail it, right? 939 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,960 Yeah, I mean it's it's the it's this, it's the original game. 940 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,040 That's what this is. That's what remix feels like. 941 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,800 Like we've said and everything. So it's yeah, you just. 942 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,400 Got to get good. Just got to get good which which 943 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,720 I I you know I probably won't I'm. 944 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,800 I'm not. I'm not. 945 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,840 I'm not I'm not in that skill set anymore man. 946 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,320 Kids these days and their reflexes. 947 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,520 Let me tell you, kids these days know nothing, because I just 948 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,840 went back and I played Earth from gym and I played it as a 949 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,200 kid, but I recently just replayed it. 950 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,280 I don't remember it being that hard. 951 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,200 I always. Like I always remember those 952 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,480 games being difficult. I I. 953 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,640 The second one was fine, but the first one I was like, I was, I 954 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,400 was so mad. I was so mad. 955 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,600 I kept dying and it was like the stupidest things. 956 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,520 And then later I'd be like, oh, I forgot that's how you do that. 957 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,920 But it was just it's so unforgiving. 958 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,320 Yeah, those those 2D games would always be like that. 959 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,560 All right. I I think, I think that if 960 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:13,360 anyone has a chance to play Smash, Remix 1.5 is out now, we 961 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,040 have some new characters. There's obviously updates that 962 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,320 are going to be coming. Just a few, just a few. 963 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,320 What I'm saying is it it it, it might continue, but even if it 964 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,280 doesn't, even if nothing else is added to this, it is an 965 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,680 exceptional feat of programming and creation. 966 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,240 Smash Father, honestly Congrats. This is amazing. 967 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,160 I I just I just have to tell you that you know if if the team 968 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,200 isn't hasn't listened to this or or if if they haven't heard it 969 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,200 recently they deserve all the all the credit as well because 970 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:52,560 it's just it's such a good it's such a great game and it's not a 971 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,320 great just a great mod it's a great game and I think that is a 972 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,480 huge difference. It doesn't feel like, you know, 973 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,960 a few people got together and just decide, yeah, let's slap 974 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,120 you. There is work put into this. 975 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,920 There's creativity, there's craft. 976 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,560 It is really, really something special. 977 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,960 It's hard, I think, to make something feel like you are 978 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,960 sitting on your couch only four feet away from your TV with your 979 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,920 original console back in the day, yet it's you're not doing 980 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,880 that at all. Like, it's it's it's very 981 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,200 impressive. So, so kudos to you and and the 982 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,920 team. Thank you very much. 983 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,760 Love it? Yeah. 984 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,440 So I got to. I got to address this. 985 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,840 I got to address this. So do it. 986 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,520 We had the YouTube thing was figured out, right? 987 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160 That whole spiel. Because I was. 988 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,040 I was mad for you. I was so mad because that Banjo 989 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,320 Version 1.5 trailer was incredible. 990 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,640 Oh my God, it's amazing. Oh my. 991 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,280 God, I went back to re watch it and then saw it was down and 992 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,600 then followed the whole Twitter spiel and I was just like, what? 993 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,400 What? Why? 994 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:03,160 It makes no sense. I can give a brief summary of 995 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,840 the situation, sure. Basically now this start most 996 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,840 people don't know is a few months ago randomly our Sonic 997 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,680 trailer just got taken down and we tried to appeal it. 998 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,080 And we also kind of did like a Twitter push where we asked 999 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,600 people and they just said, no, it's no big deal. 1000 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:25,320 Like you just, we we reviewed your appeal and like basically 1001 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,600 it's like they out of nowhere said like, oh, this is like, 1002 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,960 what did they say? Oh, dangerous. 1003 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,640 It said it was like dangerous content. 1004 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,040 And then we appealed that and they instantaneously, they 1005 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,280 rejected it. We did the Twitter push for 1006 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,120 Sonic to come back and they said, like, no, we were right. 1007 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,800 We're totally right. They did the same thing with the 1008 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,520 banjo trailer and say, like our whole channel gets taken down 1009 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,600 and like you've been, you know, two strikes, you're out 1010 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,720 everything. You're just totally booed off 1011 00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:58,920 YouTube, your dangerous content. And we we appealed once again 1012 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,840 instantaneously rejected and then we were left with no other 1013 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,760 options to really to complain. So we just took we, I even, I 1014 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,680 didn't go to Twitter to get a movement going, but I tweeted 1015 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,240 out like, hey, this is what happened. 1016 00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:17,000 Like, we got our channel taken down by YouTube and enough 1017 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,040 people like yourself complained and retweeted. 1018 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,360 And what got into YouTube's eyes? 1019 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,600 That they actually did something. 1020 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,000 Which is sad to think that the only way you can get YouTube 1021 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,120 because like Nintendo, let me tell you, Nintendo did not care. 1022 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,120 Nintendo does not care. They didn't. 1023 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,000 Nintendo did not, was not upset with us. 1024 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,200 They don't care. Nintendo doesn't care about us. 1025 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,440 They did not. There's no strikes against us. 1026 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,080 Nintendo has never given us any issues. 1027 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,080 We're very respectful of Nintendo and they have not 1028 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,640 caused us really any problems, but it was all YouTube just 1029 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,960 goofing up and they because we got enough social media 1030 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,880 traction, they put our channel back up and Sonic came back too. 1031 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,360 So that was nice, but yeah, it was. 1032 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,680 It's sad that YouTube requires you to cause a a a bunch of a 1033 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,840 furor on Twitter. That's your best resource. 1034 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:11,840 So. Weird. 1035 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,360 So small creators, you're just doomed. 1036 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,320 Sorry. Yeah, that's so that's so crazy. 1037 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,600 I mean, I'm glad it's back. If anyone hasn't. 1038 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,800 I should have said this off the top, really. 1039 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,800 But you're right. If anyone hasn't watched the 1040 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,080 trailer for 1.5, even if you don't have a way to play this 1041 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,080 game, totally fine. Watch that trailer. 1042 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,280 Watch. Watch that 1213 minutes of a it 1043 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,480 is. It's it's so good. 1044 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,920 It's like a it's like a a a short film. 1045 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,840 It's amazing. It's. 1046 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,920 Crazy. I was calling it Citizen Banjo. 1047 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,760 I mean, many sleepless nights were given to make that a 1048 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,920 trailer. I've never seen them work harder 1049 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,040 than when they worked on that that damn trailer. 1050 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,440 I was like, guys, are we done yet? 1051 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,520 Like, how long is this gonna be? So it was a heck of a trailer. 1052 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,200 So I would recommend. It's very good. 1053 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,480 You can watch the all the trailers, they're all thrilling. 1054 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,960 Yes, even the original one I made in 2019. 1055 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,600 Oh, I went back and watched It's, it's I went back and. 1056 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,880 Watched it. It's it's a thing of beauty. 1057 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,520 Yeah, I agree. But. 1058 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,280 It's it's great. So if anyone wants to keep 1059 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,320 track, whether it's YouTube, whether it's Twitter, whatever 1060 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,720 it might be, where can everybody find everything? 1061 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:18,880 Smash remix in yourself. Depends on, yeah, we have a 1062 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,480 Smash Remix, Twitter, Smash Remix, YouTube. 1063 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,760 We have a GitHub. As far as like downloading Smash 1064 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,080 Remix, there's a special sentence is going to kill me 1065 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:35,000 because I don't know. I don't know that URL. 1066 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,560 I'm trying to think what is. The URL? 1067 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,720 Yeah, we'll post in the description for sure. 1068 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:41,160 It's also POST. It in the description for me, so 1069 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,440 this doesn't kill me because. I think I grabbed it from your 1070 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,240 from your Twitter. Post Oh wait, I got it guys. 1071 00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:48,000 I got it. OK, it's smash 64 dot online 1072 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,520 slash remix. OK, that's the best way to 1073 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,240 download it. Don't go anywhere else. 1074 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:55,400 Do not pay for remix. If you pay for it, you're 1075 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,040 putting us on the line. We get in trouble with Nintendo. 1076 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,720 We never want Remix to be sold. If you're getting, it's sold to 1077 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:06,400 you, You're getting robbed. Nobody owns Remix like you 1078 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,360 should get it for free. Never buy a cartridge with Remix 1079 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,160 on there. Get never drive. 1080 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,520 You know it's always free. Never pay for Remix. 1081 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,480 The ever drive ran this thing beautifully. 1082 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,000 It was. That's what we designed it for. 1083 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,760 If it doesn't work on console, it doesn't. 1084 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,840 It's not real. Yeah, that's our viewpoint. 1085 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,120 It was awesome. I I totally just ripped my ever 1086 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,080 drive out to like flaunt it. And then I realized I had Smash 1087 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,600 Remix running. I might think of it. 1088 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:37,640 So I just ripped it out of my live 64 to to prove this .0 1089 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,800 fancy. There you go. 1090 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,640 Yours is red. Mine's just Gray. 1091 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,120 Fancy. Yeah. 1092 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,960 I like the red. Yeah, OK, that's awesome. 1093 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,080 Thank you so much for coming on the show. 1094 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:52,080 This is very exciting. Check out Smash Remix if you 1095 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,440 have a chance to play it, play it. 1096 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,720 At the very least, watch a lot of amazing videos that are out 1097 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,600 there, watch the trailers, and support this awesome group of 1098 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,600 creators. Because as we said, it is just 1099 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,680 an insanely impressive feat and a whole lot of fun. 1100 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,680 So thanks again for coming on the show and and hopefully we'll 1101 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,000 chat to chat to you soon and good luck with the with the 1102 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,680 future endeavors and being the CEO as you say. 1103 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,720 Thanks so much for having me. All right, everybody. 1104 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,080 Thank you so much for listening to Remember 64. 1105 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,960 This week. We are back to our regular 1106 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,760 schedule programming of an N64 game on the next episode and 1107 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,280 more mods to come in the rest of the year. 1108 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,760 So thanks everyone for listening. 1109 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,120 We will talk to you soon on Remember 64.