1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:06,800 You are Superman, all the powers are yours. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,400 Flight, deep vision, super speed, super strength, freezing 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:17,560 breath and X-ray vision by early. 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,480 You receive the DC. Comics collector's edition 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,040 Superman comic book? Then there's no time to waste. 6 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,560 Welcome to the show, everyone. My name is David Petrangelo, and 7 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:59,680 64 whole bits cannot save me from being great at my own video 8 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,040 game. I am awesome. 9 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Up, up and get the hell away from this damn game. 10 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,800 What the hell am I doing? Oh my God. 11 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,000 More rings. Get Me Out of here. 12 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,040 Hello, Jiggy. Look back. 13 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,440 How are you? Welcome back to the show. 14 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Hello. I'm doing fantastic. 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,080 OK, now viewers picture me with a button up shirt, right? 16 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:16,760 I'm running down an alleyway to help a screaming lady. 17 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,240 I had a bit a big jiggy. He had a giant jiggy. 18 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Oh my God, 15. Minutes and it's very 19 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,920 uncomfortable. Do you sell merch? 20 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,920 Because if you don't sell merch with a jiggy on it, I think 21 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,480 you're missing out. Because that's pretty awesome. 22 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,040 I definitely do have merch and I have a store, but I haven't 23 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,000 really pushed it yet. I'm still building stuff. 24 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:49,160 Well, now you have another idea. Clearly the Superman logo with 25 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,800 the the jiggy on it. Yeah, 'cause there's no 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,880 licensing problems with that. You can definitely get away with 27 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,560 it. Yeah, it's. 28 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,280 Not like Nintendo sues these days. 29 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,400 They they don't even. Notice it's no, no, no D CS too 30 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 busy making really bad movies to even notice that either. 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 So just you're fine, you're good and that lovely other voice that 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,680 you're that you're hearing is Jake from press speed to cancel. 33 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Hello Sir, welcome back to remember 64. 34 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,840 It has been a while. Thanks for having me back. 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,080 Yeah, I guess I was on Wow two years ago or a year and a half. 36 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,400 Ago it is about a yeah, about a year and a half ago. 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,680 Early days for for Blast Corps, yeah. 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,240 Yeah, before you're doing video. Yeah. 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,760 Yeah, we went from a really fantastic, one of my favorite 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,160 games on the N64 to. What we're talking about today 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,760 game. On the N64. 42 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,720 Awesome. The one that has rivals your all 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,320 time favorite. Yeah, all bangers all. 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Bangers. All. 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,600 The time I mean, they wouldn't call it super if it was bad, 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,160 right? Of of course not. 47 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,480 That's right, of course not. Super game for a Superman. 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Absolutely, Jake, you are that Superman. 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Well, thank you. I'll try to be. 50 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Try to be We're all going to do our best this time. 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,520 We're all going to do our best. If you haven't already picked up 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,640 on it, yes, we are talking about what is usually known as 53 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:03,880 Superman 64. But the full title, which I 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,680 didn't really realize I just thought it was just called 55 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Superman is Superman Colon, The New Superman Adventures. 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,960 That's the full title, and that is? 57 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,400 'Cause the old adventures weren't good enough, we have to 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,200 make another one, yeah? Have to make another one and, 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,880 and, and it is tied in that way because it is based on like the 60 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:25,640 the cartoon and comics and stuff that were going on at the time. 61 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:28,520 So they just, they named it the same way I think because it was 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,480 the way it was licensed through Titus and all that stuff. 63 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,120 That seems like they just, that's how they had to do it. 64 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,080 What a bunch of other games were just called Superman around that 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,040 time or before. This is how they differentiated 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,360 it because of the animation style and stuff like that. 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 So. Let me just say the cartoon 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,720 banger. Is it the animated? 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Series Banger. The Justice League series that 70 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,000 connects them both. Banger. 71 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Yeah. Well, I will say that the Batman 72 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,200 one is one of my favorite animated shows of all time, if 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,200 not my favorite. It's incredible. 74 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,360 He connects with the Superman. It's pretty dope. 75 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Yeah, he does. Yeah right, right. 76 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,720 They would cry cause yeah like the the animators and the. 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Stand and takes Lois away from Superman. 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,200 It's awesome. Yeah, I'll, I'll say the DC 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,440 animated has always been a step above, right. 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,840 I mean, I could, I could live without the DC movies, but the 81 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,839 animation stuff is always stellar. 82 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,920 I love the animated series. The Superman cartoon's fantastic 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Justice League, though. Justice League is a choice 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,520 freaking show for sure. Young Justice, even, is great. 85 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,960 Young Justice was great until the last season, I think, which 86 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,960 they like, revived it or whatever, but yeah, it was 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,400 great. I gotta I gotta look that up. 88 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,600 I don't think I've seen Young Justice. 89 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,440 Oh, that one. Yeah, yeah, No, I think I may 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,120 have seen a few episodes here and there, but but that's it. 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,920 The first season. Especially is amazing. 92 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,760 Well, there's Four Seasons, so decent amount. 93 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:49,240 OK, nice. OK, so we have a lot to dig into 94 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,800 or very little to dig into. We'll see how this episode goes. 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,400 I'm not quite sure as we get started, as we get into it. 96 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,440 You know, Jake, we've we talked about when you're on the Blast 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,720 Corpse episode about your experience with the 64. 98 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Do you have experience with this game? 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,480 Or did I just ask you if you were around and you said, you 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,960 know what? I feel like punishment. 101 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,080 So yes. So, I mean, this is a game that 102 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,640 I, I did not play as a kid, but I of course heard the 103 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,680 reputation. I have tried it. 104 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,440 I mean, a couple of years ago, I gave it a go. 105 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,840 I did not get very far. But when you mentioned that 106 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:22,880 you're going to do an episode on this, I figure, you know, why 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,240 not let me give another shot. Maybe I've gotten better. 108 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Maybe it's not the game that's bad. 109 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Maybe it's me that that fails yours. 110 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Gave another go this week and I did my homework. 111 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:34,400 I did not get very far, but I did try. 112 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,120 A valiant effort. Interesting try, but I I did my 113 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,360 homework by watching some YouTube videos of some full 114 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,840 playthroughs and it's a it's a game. 115 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:47,280 Man, you really got to do a whole episode on this one, huh? 116 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,960 I know it's almost like should we just like put a bunch of 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,040 really bad games together, but then then you're just going to 118 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,680 be talking about all this whatever. 119 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Anyways, I'll. I'll guess with Elmo we learn 120 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:01,400 something. I mean, that was that was a 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,800 positive experience. You know what me and me and 122 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Jiggy came away with? With more positive thoughts on 123 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,480 that game, or at least I did than I thought we would with 124 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,600 those Elmo games. Like they're not, they're not 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,280 meant for us and that's OK. That's great to have options for 126 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,560 kids and everything. But like, it wasn't a horrible 127 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,000 experience. It was just simple and that's 128 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,120 OK. Let me tell you something, if 129 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,760 you put a bunch of letters in a crowd or in a group, right in 130 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,720 Group setting, they're just all clumped together and you tell me 131 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,760 to find a specific letter. Like specifically the letter FI 132 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,840 could do it like 3 seconds faster than I used to for sure. 133 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,600 Like a line up like. Power of Elmo, yeah. 134 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,880 Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you. 135 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,080 I'm telling you just like it's like F. 136 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,360 Like if they're lined up like in a classic, you know when you go 137 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,760 to the police station, Yeah, the police line up is like that. 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:57,640 Like I found the F Elmo Tommy, that's an F. 139 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,840 That's valuable life skills, right? 140 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:01,880 There it is after a week of Superman. 141 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,240 I'm telling you right now, if I see a series of hoops, I could 142 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,960 probably do half of them. That's. 143 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Right. Nice. 144 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,840 So you're gonna sink a bunch of basketball baskets as well, 145 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,560 obviously. Like that's the idea. 146 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,040 It translates, right? Yeah, it's totally. 147 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,680 The same thing. It's. 148 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Totally the same thing, guys. Basketball's the same as playing 149 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,440 Superman 64. We're just just, we're just 150 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,640 letting you know, that's all you have to do. 151 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,440 If you're gonna take anything away from this episode, it's 152 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,760 that Jiggy, you had some experience with this in the 153 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,760 past. What's up with that, man? 154 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,360 Why? I just, so actually my cousins 155 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:41,360 had this game and they had this game and Starfox 64 and I was at 156 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,800 their house and I was playing them and I loved both. 157 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,720 And so I got both Starfox 64 and Superman for myself because I 158 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,920 like them so much. So Superman never really played 159 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:01,120 the I mean, I did play through the levels later, but I spent 160 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,880 most of the time in the training. 161 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 OK. Like there's a training level 162 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,120 where you can go and you can get your ice powers, you can get 163 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,480 your heat vision, which why do you have to get little emblems 164 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,760 to use those? Video video games, that's why. 165 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,280 Video games, yeah. So anyways, there was like one 166 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,320 enemy you could fight and then you could pick up a car and I 167 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:26,480 would spend hours just freezing the car, heat visioning the car, 168 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,560 flying around with the car, like putting it on buildings, 169 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,440 throwing it off buildings. Like I just found so much 170 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:38,200 enjoyment in that I that's it. OK, OK. 171 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,120 Before there's Gary's mod, there was Superman 64, I guess. 172 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,520 I mean, I didn't realize that much fun in the sandbox. 173 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,600 Yeah, it's. Fun. 174 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,840 I mean, we wouldn't have Minecraft if it wasn't for this 175 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,760 game, correct? Right. 176 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,080 Correct. Is that what you're saying? 177 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,280 That's what you're saying, right? 178 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,520 Obviously has this legacy right there. 179 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:56,840 Yeah, here's. The thing those rings, I mean, 180 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,880 it's it's a tragedy that they made that like a gameplay 181 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,520 mechanic. But the actual flight controls 182 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,120 aren't that bad. They're, they're OK. 183 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,120 I, I think he, I think he just turns too quickly. 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,160 Like he just moves a little too fast left and right. 185 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,560 Yeah. All you, all you did was all 186 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:16,120 you. This is me playing like, I think 187 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,280 for the first time, maybe, maybe second time, all you just run 188 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,840 into the car and throw it like, you know, like, and then press a 189 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:22,720 button. I don't even know what the 190 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,400 buttons are. I just mash the buttons to 191 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,680 figure out what does what. Is that how you throw cars in 192 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,320 this game? I use this so it's A or B. 193 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:37,080 The first stage I did maybe 12 times and then Lex wins, Lex 194 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,040 wins, Lex wins, and then I accidentally beat it. 195 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,800 I was so stunned that I beat the first stage and you have 196 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,240 precious seconds to throw a goddamn car. 197 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,160 I couldn't figure out how to land. 198 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,200 But the flying I, I'm with you guys is not so bad. 199 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,360 It's not terrible, but the landing is awful. 200 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,560 Like, would you want to land and get back up again? 201 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,040 If you're over water and you hit the land button, you go to the 202 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 bottom of the bloody ocean and you want to get back up again. 203 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,160 It's a chore, but I mean, if once you're in the sky, it's, 204 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,520 it's OK. Yeah, like, I mean, it's not too 205 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,560 bad. To pull some advice from my phys 206 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:13,440 Ed teacher in high school, you got you got to fly and ride 207 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,000 Superman like you ride a football. 208 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,680 Just gently, just gently, gingerly, just caress the 209 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:21,680 buttons. Don't don't manhandle them. 210 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,000 Don't do that. It's it's. 211 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,960 True, because if you if you go too fast or although I did watch 212 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,240 a couple of like playthroughs of like the later levels and people 213 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,840 fly through some of the ones where the rings move and stuff 214 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,520 at full speed. And I'm like, wow, you're the 215 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Superman playing this. Honestly, you are Superman 216 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,320 because I don't understand how anyone could do that. 217 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Again, not really because the controls are terrible, but it's 218 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,840 just not conducive to what they're asking you to do. 219 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,520 Like it just does not. I, I can't, I can't understand. 220 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,800 I don't think it's horrible. This the the rings and 221 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,680 everything. Like it's dumb that it's 222 00:10:54,680 --> 00:11:00,840 constant, but at least the flying is probably the most 223 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,320 manageable part, or at least the most functional part of the 224 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,120 game. I don't know. 225 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,400 If it was, if it was a bonus level, I think it'd be OK in 226 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,840 hindsight. I mean, if it was an occasional 227 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,080 bonus level, it didn't matter if you got all the rings, you just 228 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,880 got points or a bonus for for doing it. 229 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,800 But it's not though. It's mandatory and you do it 230 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,480 basically. I think every second or third 231 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,520 stage you have rings to fly through pretty much. 232 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:23,880 And they just keep adding more time to that clock and more 233 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,600 rings. The final ring stage, it's just 234 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,680 a constant stream you fly through and it's like 10 235 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:30,840 minutes. So I mean, if it was, if it was 236 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,800 optional, it'd be OK. It, it would just be fine. 237 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,840 I, I always pull up some information as to the 238 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,640 development of games and everything. 239 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:51,720 And so, OK, So what I, what I don't get is, or actually what I 240 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,120 have some sympathy for. So that, so this game is made by 241 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,480 Titus, Titus Interactive, Titus Interactive. 242 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,200 I look through the list of games that I've, that I've covered so 243 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,720 far and played so far for the show. 244 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,360 And I was like, oh, I could have sworn that we played more of 245 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,720 their games so far, but we haven't, didn't have a ton of 246 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,480 N64 games. The one that we did play though 247 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,360 was Carmageddon. So already I was like, oh Jesus, 248 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,240 here we go. But looking through everything 249 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,760 about this game and how it was developed, it actually seems 250 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:32,080 like it wasn't really their fault that this game was as, or 251 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,800 at least part of it wasn't quite their fault for how much they 252 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,160 kind of got screwed over with it. 253 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:47,600 So the founder of Titus Kane, Eric Kane or Kern Kane Kane, we 254 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:53,000 were talking before about how the animated series Batman, for 255 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,520 example, is such a great show that was on at this time. 256 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,560 And this guy was like, you know what, we should gobble up a 257 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:02,880 Superman license and make a game on it. 258 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,280 That would be great. You know, not a not a property 259 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,720 that is super hot right now. You know, death of Superman 260 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,960 happened a few years ago and all these things like everyone knows 261 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,920 who Superman is, but not a hot commodity. 262 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,600 Maybe we'll have a chance. Ended up getting the license for 263 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,680 it. And they're like, oh shit, this 264 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,520 is great, awesome. WB, let us have it, DC, let us 265 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,080 have it. And then what happened was the 266 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,200 is it the licensing? Yeah, the licensing team at 267 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,520 Warner Brothers was fired or let go like a month later after they 268 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,000 got this deal. And I don't know if you guys can 269 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,120 even guess what kind of game this Warner Brothers and that 270 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,000 licensing team wanted to make instead out of Superman. 271 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,760 This is before development even started. 272 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,760 This was like very early stages. Obviously. 273 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Take a wild guess what kind of game they wanted to make, and 274 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,160 then I will tell you that you're wrong and tell you what the 275 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,360 correct answer is. Fighting game. 276 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,040 OK, Jake Kart. Racer. 277 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Good guesses actually both. Both make sense or could make 278 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,280 sense or you could see the reality of it. 279 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:11,800 No, instead the first demand that they had was to make a SIM 280 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,840 like game where Superman would be the mayor of Metropolis. 281 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,800 They wanted to make a SIM City essentially where he was the 282 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,440 mayor. When is he ever the mayor of 283 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Metropolis? And why in any way would that 284 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,760 have anything to do with Superman or be fun in any 285 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,520 capacity? I just that was their idea. 286 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,920 That's what they wanted. Weird. 287 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,160 So they basically stonewalled them the whole time, delaying 288 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,880 them, not giving them assets. Eventually they did get what 289 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,360 they needed to sort of make, you know, the characters and stuff 290 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,280 to be able to have their likenesses and everything. 291 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,840 But they screwed them over for months and months and months. 292 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,680 The game came out six months late, then later than they 293 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,840 wanted it to, partially because they weren't being given what 294 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,240 they needed to create it. Maybe it wouldn't have been an 295 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,000 amazing game if Carmageddon is an example that's, you know, 296 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,440 well, probably not the most fantastic result. 297 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,280 But I mean, I think if you're if you're just being stonewalled at 298 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,160 every every turn when you're just trying to make some sort of 299 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,880 game with a superhero and want to make it SIM City, like, come 300 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,200 on. I don't know, I find that 301 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 absolutely ridiculous. But maybe it's just me. 302 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,480 I can't even wrap my brain around the concept of this being 303 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,840 a SIM City clone. It just does not. 304 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,160 It just doesn't work. Even if it was a city builder 305 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,160 with Superman is is like the an MPC who flies around or 306 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,120 something like Bowser did in the original SIM city on on on snaz. 307 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,480 That doesn't make sense. Like how do you take the Man of 308 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,720 Steel and you turn that into a city builder? 309 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,600 Like it just it just does not fit at all. 310 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,280 I don't get it build. The city he goes and picks up 311 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,360 the pieces like. He literally. 312 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,160 Like Lego blocks the buildings when he bounces off them. 313 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,640 I guess maybe the damage he caused over decades of being a 314 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,200 hero he has to rebuild the city. Like maybe he's the. 315 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,120 Repairman like is that what it is? 316 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,200 It doesn't it doesn't make sense It's so it's so stupid and then 317 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,720 you know what it's it's unfortunate because like you 318 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,560 know, you have superhero games and you know not all of them hit 319 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,680 especially like early SNES days. A lot of it was like 2D 320 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,080 platformer and sometimes it would be a fighting game, or at 321 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,920 least eventually these became fighting games and stuff. 322 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,320 All that. OK, you know, are they all home 323 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,680 runs? No, but at least you could do 324 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,360 something with it. At least you can kind of embody 325 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:40,240 a superhero in this. Like we said, maybe the flying. 326 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,040 I don't know. Is there any other redeeming 327 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,720 qualities to the gameplay here, guys? 328 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,960 I don't know. The powers, they're fun. 329 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,720 Are they? Are they fun though? 330 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,440 Are you sure? They're there. 331 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,640 They exist. I think when you, when you use, 332 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,560 when you don't, when you're not forced to use them, they're fun. 333 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,320 Like in your, like in your sandbox mode that you spend 334 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,040 hours in. Sandbox mode, if you just have 335 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,440 heat vision, you're sitting there just like like it's, it's 336 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,359 fun. Sorry, what was that sound 337 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,920 effect? What is that? 338 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,440 What is that college humor skit with bad man? 339 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,920 Not Batman, but it's bad man. Oh. 340 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,280 And then he talks about how Superman's really lame with his 341 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,480 powers. He's like, is that soup too hot, 342 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,680 ma'am? OK. 343 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Here you go. Yeah. 344 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,440 There is like. I'd use it to cut Bates arm off. 345 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,680 There is escort missions in this game, and one of the tactics to 346 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,080 get through those without with your sanity is to protect the 347 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,080 person you're escorting. You freeze them with your freeze 348 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,520 breath into a block of ice. That's kind of fun in a I'm so 349 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,760 pissed off of this game. It's an outlet for me so I can 350 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,880 just freeze Jimmy to keep him that day for a minute. 351 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,280 That's kind of entertaining. It's very stupid. 352 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,080 It makes no sense, Jimmy. I know it makes no sense that 353 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,840 freezing the escort. Freezing your escort is how you 354 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,800 get through them is a very weird gimmick. 355 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,680 Well, yeah, you're not escorting them, you're just. 356 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,000 Icing them. I icing them. 357 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,440 I don't know. I was like, well, he was like, 358 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,360 what's the turb? I don't know. 359 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,800 So so the the rings, the ring stuff is what everybody 360 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,640 remembers from these games, right. 361 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,760 And what's odd about this that I realized was that one. 362 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,760 So I read up a little bit about the game and and wrote some of 363 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,160 the notes down and stuff before I started playing. 364 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,280 I was like, I just want to see what some of this development 365 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,800 situation was here. And that same studio Co founder 366 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,360 defended the fact that the rings. 367 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:45,840 I mean this you got to defend your work. 368 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,640 I guess in some ways I don't, you know, I don't necessarily 369 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,440 think that's a terrible thing. I I get it. 370 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,520 Maybe you don't think it's the greatest game, but maybe you can 371 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,600 actually say like, oh, at least we tried our best or whatever in 372 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,320 that in I think I think it might have been an IGN interview from 373 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,440 like, you know, 25 years ago or something. 374 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,280 He defended the fact that the ring things are in it saying, 375 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,440 Oh, it is only the tutorial levels and it is not the whole 376 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,640 game. But like you guys just said 377 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:16,080 before, no, it's not. It's every couple of like things 378 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,800 you do is that it's absolutely that is untrue 100%. 379 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,480 And I I don't understand the need to want to do that over and 380 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,640 over and over again. I don't are they really just 381 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,000 running out of ideas? Like I just don't. 382 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:35,680 I don't know, man. If. 383 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,360 You take them out. Oh. 384 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Go ahead. If you take the ring stages out, 385 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,800 this game is still fairly long without the ring stages, right? 386 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,400 Yeah, there's, there's a decent amount of stages. 387 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,200 I mean, regarding, is that what it is 14? 388 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,760 Yeah. And the stages are actually kind 389 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,280 of long, right. And the frustrating part, which 390 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,760 I think you were alluding to, but before I can't remember what 391 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,240 you guys said it. Oh, you have to restart or 392 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,640 whatever, right? I thought the restart was oh, I 393 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,320 failed the ring thing. OK, restart at that section. 394 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,080 No, that it's like the checkpoints or like the entire, 395 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,680 let's say 20 minutes, half an hour, whatever it takes you or 396 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,800 whatever, right? That's the problem is that if 397 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:23,000 you fail one out of four things that you have to do or five 398 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,680 things you have to use to start all the way back over and it 399 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,200 just feels really, really tedious. 400 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,600 And I just some of the decisions that they came up with, stuff 401 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,320 like that, It just feels extra old school when the game is 402 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,200 already just kind of bullshit. Yeah, and the rings, like you'd 403 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,680 think, OK, they're using this to point to where you're going 404 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,240 because there's a lot of fog in this game, right? 405 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,520 But then they also have the compass down in the bottom right 406 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,080 corner that tells you where you need to go. 407 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,720 So it's like there's further no proof or no reason to have these 408 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,760 rings. So it's just it's time killer is 409 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,120 all it is. And also the funny set up with 410 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:05,760 the ring stuff is that apparently it's a maze. 411 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,920 According to Lex's Lex Luthor's instructions. 412 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,960 You have to escape my maze or beat my maze. 413 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,280 And it's like, this isn't a maze. 414 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,960 A maze is where I would. I'm only getting lost because 415 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,240 this game controls like Pooh, not because this is an actual 416 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,040 maze. No, I said. 417 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,880 Where the rings are Lex. Amazed. 418 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:30,800 At this stupid idea. Misheard me with your superhero 419 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,400 Superman. So that that compass actually 420 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,440 goes away if you play on the harder difficulty, which you 421 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,400 kind of want to do because you want the hard difficulty, 422 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,120 because you get the actual, you get the real ending if you play 423 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,200 it on the hard difficulty. I didn't know that. 424 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,920 What's the real ending? I should look that up. 425 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,600 I'm going to look that up. I think, I think you get a 426 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,000 single screen. I think is what it is. 427 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,040 It's not. It's nothing mind blowing, but 428 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,440 the game ends really if you play on normal, they want you to play 429 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,480 on Superman difficulty because really, if you if you master the 430 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,840 rings, you truly are Superman. Sure I did, I did notice too. 431 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,880 I didn't know this until I read up on it but you whoop that's 432 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,240 loud sound in my ear. You if you put on easy, I don't 433 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,960 know if you if you switch to easy at all. 434 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,000 The ring stages have no rings, it just gives you an end point 435 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,840 and you can just fly wherever you want. 436 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Pre fly. OK, OK. 437 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,920 Yeah, Which could be preferable? I don't know, maybe that's 438 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,680 preferable. But also it's like, what then 439 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,640 what's the point, right? Like what's the point? 440 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,360 I'll tell you what the point is. The point is, you're Superman. 441 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,440 It should be easy. It should be no problem for you. 442 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,760 That's. That's a good point though. 443 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,640 That's true because Superman is a character. 444 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,960 He's hard to do a video game for, or at least a good video 445 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,840 game, because he is Superman. He is literally the most 446 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,640 powerful hero in most universes. So what do you do with the 447 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,120 character who is invincible? Right? 448 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,080 Like I, I think there's only one good Superman game I've ever 449 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,280 played and it's the arcade game really. 450 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,640 And I. Don't. 451 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Think that was legit game did you? 452 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,040 Ever play the Man of Steel one that was on like Xbox 360? 453 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,240 No. No, I didn't play that. 454 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,520 Yeah, are not Man of Steel. I mean Superman Returns, there 455 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,960 is a Man of Steel one, but I mean Superman Returns based off 456 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000 the movie, that one was really interesting. 457 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,760 I think it had potential because it was essentially, it was 458 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,400 essentially an open world Superman game. 459 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,160 You're flying around Metropolis. You could do things like fly up 460 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,160 into the sky and then shoot down like a meteor. 461 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,280 And you'd have like random, you know, Spider Man 2 style pop up 462 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,240 quests where you have to save the citizens. 463 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,120 You have to defeat robots. You have to do like it was, it 464 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,480 wasn't perfect, but you could see the potential there. 465 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:47,560 And I think there was a game, I can't think of what it's called. 466 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,080 I believe it's free and you can get it on Steam. 467 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,440 It's like an indie game where they took the concept from 468 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,840 Superman Returns and refined it and made a pretty fun game out 469 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,480 of it. And it's and it's, it's not 470 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Superman based or or like it actually has Superman or no. 471 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,520 It's not Superman. But it's a. 472 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,080 Guy with, like, sunglasses and he's, you know, he is. 473 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,960 He's got the same powers, basically. 474 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,760 Gotcha. It's right. 475 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,920 It's awesome. Yeah. 476 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:15,400 I got to I I got to say, trying to figure out what to do in 477 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,360 these stages as I watch my stupid decisions of for some 478 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:24,080 reason, flying underwater. I I like there's no it's like 479 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,760 the side doors open when you pick up like a thing. 480 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:33,040 It's like what side doors where I don't what I've seen one. 481 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Door man, I punch it. That's how you use computers, 482 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,160 apparently. Yeah, Very obscure game. 483 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,200 It it's just yeah, it doesn't make any sense talking about 484 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,640 other versions of the game. Apparently there was a a 485 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,720 PlayStation version of this game that the same company was making 486 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,720 that never got released. But it was like pretty much done 487 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,680 like essentially just completely finished like 90 something 488 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,040 percent done. I'm going to switch over so we 489 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,840 can look at it. But it is kind of the same game. 490 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,680 I don't think it's drastically different or anything like that, 491 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:14,800 but it looks a little bit cleaner in some ways. 492 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,920 A lot of it takes place inside, at least according to the videos 493 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,920 that I looked up. You know, some of the some of 494 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,000 the textures and stuff are kind of mucky and whatever. 495 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,120 That's PlayStation, That's the era, whatever, right? 496 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,600 It is what it is. That's yeah, exactly so. 497 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,400 But the saturation though the colors pop a lot more on 498 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,720 Superman. It's way more colorful. 499 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,800 Even though you're underground and everything's brown, 500 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,640 everything's still more colorful somehow. 501 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,880 Yeah, I think. Objectively if I looked at both 502 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,960 of those side by side I'd be like the PlayStation one looks 503 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,680 way cooler. Yes, it does and he and he looks 504 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,000 better too like oh, add go away, add I don't need small I'm not a 505 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,920 small business owner. I don't have money to have a 506 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,640 small business go away. OK, back to the game. 507 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,320 Where's another stage and stuff? There's there's a couple stages 508 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,080 here that it like this is another sort of like underground 509 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,960 bunker type of stage thing. It's just still looks more 510 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,720 interesting graphics. This looks good. 511 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,400 Yeah. Like the textures here look a 512 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,080 lot better. When I think PlayStation One, I 513 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,320 keep thinking of Final Fantasy 7's lack of textures on things, 514 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,720 on everything. Or think of something like 515 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,640 siphon, siphon filter where it's just kind of grainy. 516 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,800 But this, these look pretty clean. 517 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,120 I'm. I'm kind of surprised they 518 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,000 didn't release this actually. I know, I think it was what I 519 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,440 read up on it was that it was like a it was like a Warner 520 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,240 Brothers thing that Superman 64 actually made money like because 521 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,760 people bought it because it's Superman and it's, you know, the 522 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,680 time that whatever it's sold decently well or well enough. 523 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,560 But I think it was like just disappointment and reception and 524 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,000 all those types of they got. There's no set reason that I 525 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,120 found at least. But the fact that it just wasn't 526 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,760 released kind of sucks. It sucks because people work on 527 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,080 this stuff too. And everything that I saw every 528 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,080 time I saw this game mentioned was that it was like a minimum 529 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,000 of 80 or 90% finished. So like this is a very finished 530 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 product and that's just unfortunate. 531 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,200 So I don't know. Yeah, you can play this today 532 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,040 for the for. I mean, I'm not gonna advertise 533 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,440 where, but you can do this regulation and I think you just 534 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600 have to use some level skip codes to get through certain 535 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,600 blockers, but I think you can play through most of it. 536 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,800 Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it looks like it's worthwhile if you if 537 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,520 you get a chance to sort of give it a shot so. 538 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,960 He literally changed his costume when he went underwater like he 539 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,000 was. He turned into Aquaman 540 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,360 essentially as scuba. Why does he need? 541 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,320 That why does he need a scuba tank? 542 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,640 Yeah, he could go into space. It's Scuba Steve. 543 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,240 Movie online, yeah. Scuba Steve. 544 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,880 Well, that just triggered a memory. 545 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Yeah, man, I love that movie. That's classic. 546 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:51,840 Yeah. So Superman 64 is a mess. 547 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,320 Like, let's be honest, it is a very, very messy game. 548 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,560 I don't know, aside from like the ring stages, I don't really 549 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,120 know like what what improves it? I don't know, like there's 550 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:07,280 there's so little to sort of say like, oh, if this hat like 551 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840 sometimes there's games where it's like, oh, if they just sort 552 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,480 of checked a couple of extra boxes or made a small change 553 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,080 with this or that, then it's like, great, you got this, like 554 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,360 you, you've made a more polished version of this game or 555 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,520 whatever. I just think there's just so 556 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,120 much in this that is not great that it would be really hard for 557 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:31,080 that to happen, I think. I think you give it a Dynasty 558 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,240 Warriors treatment. Let's just have tons of enemies 559 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,600 running at you at the same time. Oh. 560 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,320 Shit, OK. Let's give Superman all his 561 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,560 powers accessible at all times. There's no there's no limit. 562 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,480 I I don't know why they would ever do that. 563 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,480 That was dumb. But if you treated it like, you 564 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,880 know, like a Dynasty Warriors, like hack and slash, just like 565 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,400 every level and he gave you plenty of space to to work 566 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,800 right, I think that would be a lot cooler. 567 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,240 Yeah, yeah, like you said that you had a lot of fun with like 568 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,760 the practice mode because it was more sandbox like. 569 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,280 And when you mentioned that that Xbox game that that sounds like 570 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,360 a great idea to me. Superman is definitely something 571 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,240 that would work better in a wide open space. 572 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,800 Why is he flying through under underwater tunnels? 573 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,840 It doesn't doesn't jive with me. But if it's open sandbox and 574 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,680 you're just dozens of mooks coming at you like mobs, 575 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,240 henchman, That makes sense. Cause the enemies in this, I 576 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,160 don't wanna say damage sponges, but they take a few hits and 577 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,200 again, you're Superman. Why do they take more than one 578 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,920 punch right? It doesn't make a lot of sense. 579 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,680 The, the, it was on the footage that you had Dave, but there's a 580 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,000 scene in like the first part where you go and there's like 4 581 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,120 enemies lined up and you just stop. 582 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,200 And 1st off, Superman's like punching animation is just 583 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,080 silly. He's just like uppercut like. 584 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Also, his run. His run is hilarious. 585 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680 His body doesn't move, just his arms. 586 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,720 Just arms. Yeah, looks looks like a like a 587 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,240 a Mull Walker. That's what he looks like. 588 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160 It's just a great poster. Great poster, though. 589 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,680 Great poster A. Nutcracker. 590 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,480 A Nutcracker. That's it. 591 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,040 Yeah. But yeah, you're. 592 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,320 But you punch him, right? And they're animated 593 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,680 hilariously. When you punch them, they're 594 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080 like, yeah, like fly off the screen. 595 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,600 And it's so satisfying to just go down a line of them and just 596 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,400 punch, punch, punch, punch. They're one shots. 597 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,000 They go flying. That's what Superman is. 598 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,720 That's what it should be. Or, or you fly into them and 599 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,120 just knock them all down like they're like they're bowling 600 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,040 pins like. Yeah, that's what it should be, 601 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,400 yeah. That is so much fun. 602 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,080 It doesn't, you know now obviously they. 603 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Fly them up in the sky and just drop. 604 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,800 Them. Oh my God, that'd be great. 605 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120 There's the one stage where you have to fight dark side. 606 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,440 I think it's dark. Yeah, it's dark side. 607 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,920 And you, you go, you have a small skirmish with him. 608 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,240 You punch me a few times. He he falls flat on his back, 609 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,840 which does not make sense. But then you're picking him up 610 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,240 above your arms and you're walking down the hallways. 611 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,400 I think you're supposed to take him to a cop car. 612 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,240 I think it is to get him arrested, which this is like, 613 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,280 this is like one of the new gods, one of those powerful 614 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,920 super villains in their mythos. And you're picking him up over 615 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,800 your shoulder, getting stuck on the ceiling 'cause you know, 616 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,320 Superman 64 geometry and he's getting arrested by the cops. 617 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,360 This, this is the the battle. This is what's in Lex's 618 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200 simulation. Like that's the other thing is 619 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,040 this is all so so the ring thing, all of this stuff that's 620 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,080 happening is supposed to be a simulation. 621 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,000 It's. All a game. 622 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,480 It's all it's literally all a game. 623 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,280 Do you want to play a game like it's just it's what it is. 624 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,280 No, I definitely do not. This is the is this the dark 625 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,880 seed level? No, it's not. 626 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,440 Hold on. I'm trying to change it over so 627 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:47,080 we can see it, but it's it's like, Oh my God, it's moving so 628 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,560 clunky. What is this person playing this 629 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,480 thing on? So this is the stage where 630 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,880 there's destructible walls and if you're in the area of those, 631 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,400 the frame rate tanks like it's a cool concept, destructible walls 632 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,200 that they ruin the frame rate and. 633 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Right, one of these things. Where I wish they could have 634 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200 performed it better. Yeah, like that's these, these 635 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,880 the shadow figures. The shadow hench men. 636 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,720 They look like like just a punch. 637 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,560 Hey, there goes the wall. Oh. 638 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,760 Wait, there it goes. Look. 639 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,440 Look other than physics. Look at those physics. 640 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,360 Oh, I. Love it. 641 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,480 Like that's the other thing too, is there's not a ton going on in 642 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,160 many areas of this game just because it's it's very empty. 643 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,800 But like you just said, Jake, the the frame rate just chugs 644 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,400 for some reason. It's not like there's overly 645 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,280 detailed textures around you. It's not like, yeah, the Cape 646 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,040 flaps a little bit. That's all that's really 647 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,600 happening. Why is it? 648 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,200 Why is it chugging like you're playing on this old school PC 649 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,400 with a brand new, you know, whatever Call of Duty game or 650 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,160 something? You know what I mean? 651 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,600 Like it just doesn't doesn't add up to me. 652 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,200 Have you? Have you guys seen the speed run 653 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,560 of this? Have you guys watched it before? 654 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,120 I've never seen the speed. Run of this I, I have seen parts 655 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,520 of it. I've seen parts of it, yeah. 656 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,760 The fun part of the speed run, I don't know if the world record 657 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,040 still uses this trick, but the trick was if you go on the 658 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,480 options there's an option to change the render size of the 659 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920 screen. So the speed run Strat is to 660 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,920 shrink it down to the size of a postage stamp. 661 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,960 Beat the game and because it's so small it renders faster and 662 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,440 that's how you get through these stages 'cause this this would 663 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,600 slow you down your time. Right. 664 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,520 That is definitely not something that I saw. 665 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,920 That's hilarious. Yeah. 666 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,280 That's unreal. The frame rate is killer. 667 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,080 It's so bad and I don't understand it. 668 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,000 Like I really, I, I don't get it because there's just not enough 669 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,640 going on here for this, for it to be a problem like that's, 670 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:45,480 that's so puzzling to me. I don't know I I understand that 671 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,080 you're only capable of doing so much. 672 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,920 I know that like the what's funny too. 673 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,240 I don't know if you guys noticed the fog or I think I don't even 674 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,960 know. Does he say this? 675 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,400 Does Lex say this? The fog is green and it's made 676 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,640 it a kryptonite. Like, like hilarious hilarious. 677 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,080 Well, you know what? I appreciate that though, 678 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200 because that's, that goes back to me liking Turok. 679 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,360 The the the fog was part of the gameplay experience. 680 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,600 It made sense to have the fog. I agree. 681 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,840 Superman, there'd be fog. Yeah, my fog. 682 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,480 Sure, why not? I mean, at least it's a 683 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,760 simulation did. You ever play that one? 684 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,159 No, on this, I have not played it. 685 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,880 No, that's gonna be on the list, that's for sure. 686 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,920 'Cause they, they put the fog in, so you're like on top of the 687 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,920 buildings and all below is filled with the fog. 688 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,679 And in the story, it's just like they gasped the city. 689 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,199 And it's it's pretty awesome actually. 690 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,280 It's a good way of doing this. Sequence. 691 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,159 Yeah, I love when they give a reason for it. 692 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,040 Yeah, yeah. Like in Turok, it's, it's more 693 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,000 just like, oh, you're in the jungle and it's like the 694 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,679 rainforest, you know, whatever you wanna call it. 695 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,440 And so, you know, for the most part, not everywhere, but for 696 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,719 the most part, I, I could see that, you know, there's the one 697 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,159 state, what's the one stage called in, in Goldeneye. 698 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,760 Same thing when you're out in the jungle where you. 699 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,960 Like the Amazon with the What's her name? 700 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,719 Yeah, where you face? Yeah. 701 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,000 On the top. Yeah, exactly. 702 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,320 When you face her and stuff like makes sense. 703 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,560 And I think Jiggy, when we played that game last year and 704 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080 covered it, we're like, oh, this is like Turok, That's what this 705 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,320 feels like. And it makes sense. 706 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,040 It totally does. It's just there's there's not 707 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,400 enough of that in this to justify the frame rate dropping 708 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,520 like a like a fucking brick in the ocean. 709 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:20,320 Like it just it's ridiculous. Boom, there goes the wall. 710 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,840 Like that's cool. That looks like it. 711 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,120 That looks like when I did that, it breaks open like you are. 712 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,440 The walls in this particular level break open like it is an 713 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,960 animated TV show almost right. The bricks are kind of just all 714 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,680 in one piece and they just kind of fall to the side. 715 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,240 Looks good, looks good, but nothing else does. 716 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,160 Just 5 frames of animation, that's all. 717 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,400 That's the only problem. That's all you do? 718 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,760 Yeah. Punch that car, Superman. 719 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,240 Punch that car. Oh, no. 720 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,040 Here is Luther's card or car. I don't even know what that 721 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,760 sound. I don't remember that at all. 722 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,880 This bank card Superman needs some new threads. 723 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,200 He needs that scuba suit. And he's a where's that? 724 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,840 Where's that PlayStation scuba suit? 725 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,280 What's the other thing? The other thing I had to was I 726 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:14,400 found the Nintendo Power issue. I always try to find Nintendo 727 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Power and see how they promote terrible games. 728 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,640 Nintendo Power always looks way cooler than it actually is. 729 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,920 Like every single time. It's such a good job. 730 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,560 Just OK, so this is Kate. The crazy thing about this. 731 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,880 I'll I'll show you after you guys can guess like well, not 732 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,480 guess, but I'll show you how out of place Superman looks in this 733 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,680 issue, the game of. Steel. 734 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,560 The game of Steel, it is issue 114 November of 1998. 735 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,440 So this, they're promoting this game as if it's like the next 736 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,400 coming of Superman. I guess I was gonna say Christ, 737 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:02,480 but the problem with this, one of the issues is when you flip 738 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,880 through all these pages, none of them show rings. 739 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,240 You have 6 pages of Superman. Nothing. 740 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:13,320 Why? Would you only show the 741 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,960 tutorial? That doesn't make sense. 742 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,600 It's a sense, right? It's if. 743 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,640 This if this, the creator of the studio said, oh, the rings are 744 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,600 just the tutorial, they're not really the game. 745 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,880 They must have added those interspersed levels to pad it 746 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,240 out. They had to have late late in 747 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,040 the stage. Maybe that's what it is. 748 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,600 Maybe that's exactly what it is I need. 749 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,240 To grab something because this looks more like. 750 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,360 Something else he's he's getting a hula hoop as we speak for the 751 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,240 audio listener, he's going to go through a ring. 752 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,640 Jump through it. Nice moves, nice moves. 753 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,160 No, I was going to say this looks more like this game that I 754 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,320 have on GameCube. Game command. 755 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,520 Shadow of Apocalypse, which is Tuber Man 64 but on GameCube 756 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,280 essentially. Is it really better? 757 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,280 It's a little bit better, but it's still like it runs choppy 758 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,680 and everything, but it like has like, I mean, it looks better 759 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,640 saturate. Does it have rings? 760 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,920 Yeah. Does it have rings? 761 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,120 That's the question it. Does not. 762 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,200 OK, But yeah, it's like this is what these screenshots even make 763 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,080 it look like. Like they're more saturated. 764 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,000 Yeah, they. Look more. 765 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,560 They look more. Which is more? 766 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,160 The cartoon was very colorful, like the the style of the 767 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,840 cartoon more it was like the opposite of the Batman animated 768 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,160 show, which is very dark and grim. 769 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,120 Superman was always bright and colorful and cheerful. 770 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,560 It was, it was interesting. The The funny thing about this, 771 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,240 I don't know if you guys can see it from your perspective, 'cause 772 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:38,880 it might be a little small, but one of the things on here, the 773 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:45,080 preview stuff on here says also weird title, man. 774 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,920 And Superman. I don't know what that's 775 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,440 supposed to mean for this little like thought bubble here that 776 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,440 they have. So Nintendo Power rites. 777 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,120 Translating a comic book into a video game is very difficult. 778 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,880 Superman, Batman, Spawn, and others have been down the road 779 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,720 before with mixed results at best. 780 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,560 It's almost like they knew that there was a problem here. 781 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,720 That's not true though, there's lots of great comic book video 782 00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:14,760 games. Right I. 783 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,680 Agree. The Genesis was fantastic. 784 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,360 Right? There's there's a bunch of them. 785 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,600 I I agree, I think I think even even they they, they reference 786 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,240 spawn as if like spawn some sort of like, you know, outlier and 787 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,480 maybe that's the one that's not bad. 788 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,280 You play spawn on on on Game Boy or you or you play it on the 789 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,760 SNES. It's not bad. 790 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,040 It's not great, but it's not it's, it's OK. 791 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,680 It's like all the other ones that are kind of like it. 792 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,640 So maybe it doesn't differentiate itself a ton. 793 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:45,240 Pick a 2D side scroller with some beat em up stuff that 794 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,800 that's good at that time. And it was. 795 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600 And a lot of them are still fun today. 796 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,520 I think so. I don't know. 797 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,720 It's, it's almost like they were just trying to subdue the 798 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:56,360 expectations. Yeah. 799 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,240 Yeah. Something in there for sure. 800 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,600 Yeah, I gotta, I just gotta point something out about this 801 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,200 animation style because it's always bothered me, OK? 802 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,280 And it bothered me with the connection to the Batman series, 803 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,640 and it bothered me when they still did it in Justice League. 804 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,640 Why are his eyes Superman's only pupils? 805 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,280 Like he's only got just black dots for eyes with a little like 806 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,560 but like everyone else like even in his own show have actual 807 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,400 eyes. Yeah, Lois Lane has eyes that 808 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,640 you can see him. Yeah, Yeah. 809 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,280 Look at those eyes. Yeah, she's got eyes and like. 810 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,080 Full eyes still. Out of place like look and in a 811 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,040 blow up version of his face he's got pupils. 812 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,800 Well, I mean, how else is he going to focus those heat ray 813 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,640 vision, right? He has. 814 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:45,280 He needs beady little eyes for beady little rays of heat. 815 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,760 I mean, he's got to. Keep him under control. 816 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,720 If you have too much eye you're it's everywhere you end up like 817 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:50,640 cyclops. Cyclops. 818 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,120 Yeah, it's exactly yeah. I mean. 819 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,760 And he sees the answer to Cyclops. 820 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,840 And Cyclops doesn't shoot laser eyes. 821 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,560 We know it's got concussive. OK, it's a concussive blast, 822 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,160 whatever the hell that means, but whatever the. 823 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,040 Punch dimension, that's what it is, yeah. 824 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,040 Right, so. I went down that rabbit hole 825 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,360 recently. X-Men 97 people watch it. 826 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,080 It's excellent. Yeah. 827 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,080 It's. Fantastic. 828 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,400 It's so. It's so damn good. 829 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,600 Don't. Jet and he's just like using his 830 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,520 oh to to just descend slower. I was like, that was awesome and 831 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,960 I never would have thought about that. 832 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,240 Yeah. Like and that's in the first 833 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:29,760 like 15 minutes of the whole show that happens. 834 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,120 Every week it's. Fantastic. 835 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,480 It's great. It's absolutely great. 836 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,000 Don't play this game for Season 2 and don't even listen to us 837 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,760 talk about this anymore. Just go watch that show. 838 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,480 Honestly, stop it right now. Go watch X-Men 97 then come 839 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,280 back. And then come back and then come 840 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160 back and hear our hear our thoughts, because clearly we 841 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,640 don't land. We haven't figured out how we 842 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,680 feel about this game. So the other thing, the final 843 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,920 thing about this Nintendo Power issue that has almost nothing to 844 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,920 do with Superman at all is all the games that are featured in 845 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,360 this and why it feels like again that they they buried this game 846 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,120 in this issue. Because if you look at the 847 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:08,080 review section alone, you have ocarina of time, you have Turok 848 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,400 2, you have an NFL game, you have buck Bumble, which is 849 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,400 fantastic. People go play Buck Bumble, 850 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,520 Wipeout which I haven't played on 64 but great series. 851 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,160 NHL game Body Harvest Haven't played that either but supposed 852 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,760 to be good. Extreme, G2, Glover and even the 853 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,920 Gameboy colour is featured in here. 854 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,320 The Gameboy. Colour, like the actual review 855 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,560 of the hardware itself or quote UN quote, whatever. 856 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,280 You know, Nintendo Power reviews, if you want to call 857 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:43,360 them that, like it's, it's what you have, but with some colour. 858 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,800 Hey, I love the gameboy colour. Me too. 859 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,200 Don't get me started in the Gameboy colour. 860 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480 That thing is awesome. Me too, I love that machine. 861 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,320 Yeah, I still have my see through purple one. 862 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,920 I don't know if it works. I haven't tried it in a while, 863 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,880 but yeah. Mine. 864 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,840 'S going around here too, yeah, but all those games are in this 865 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,960 that the the front cover of this issue is occurring enough time 866 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,520 that says it's the biggest issue ever and somehow Superman 64 867 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,880 made its way in here and and that's not a good thing. 868 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,920 And it got not just a cover, it really got like a four page 869 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,000 spread of of fluff. Yeah. 870 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,840 Guys, you're, you're, you're misinterpreting what they're 871 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,600 saying. They're saying the biggest issue 872 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,520 ever, Superman 64. That was the biggest issue they 873 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,480 had so far on the 64. So that they had, they had it 874 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,840 had like it had to. It was right there, plain as 875 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,200 day, we. Should have known all along. 876 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:46,640 What were we think? OK, so honestly, Superman 64, 877 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,400 I'm glad I'm in a way, I'm glad we played it 'cause I just 878 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,400 wanted to experience same thing that you that you were saying. 879 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,440 I think at the beginning Jake was like, I, I know I rented 880 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,280 this game, but I don't think I really played it. 881 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,920 You know, as a kid, I was too young to kind of be like, Oh my 882 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,600 God, this is a horrible game. It was just, I'm like 10 years 883 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,640 old. Like I don't, I don't know the 884 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,760 difference sometimes. I mean, I know what games I 885 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,440 like, but I wouldn't be able to say like, oh, this is a terrible 886 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,440 flying ring simulator compared to the last ring simulator that 887 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,840 I played. So going back and playing it, 888 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,160 I'm in a way I'm glad I did. So now I can say that this is 889 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,400 definitely one of the one of the worst. 890 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,000 I don't like saying that about games sometimes, but it's just 891 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,520 not good unfortunately. I would just watch someone play 892 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,240 it. I would watch a speed run 893 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:40,280 potentially or one that isn't the size of a postage stamp so 894 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,560 you can see the whole screen. Watch someone play it at a high 895 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,040 level and you'd be like, OK, this is cool, but if you try it, 896 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,360 you'll never be able to replicate that. 897 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,200 So I just advise you to not try and replicate it. 898 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,240 But it's just a, it's a mess. It's just a mess. 899 00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:56,880 I mean, plain and simple, it's just a mess. 900 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,400 Unfortunately so. Hold on a SEC, you didn't talk 901 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,160 about probably the best part of this game, what? 902 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,760 It has multiplayer. Did you not play the 903 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,640 multiplayer? Did you try out the multiplayer 904 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,200 mode? I didn't play. 905 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,640 The. Multiplayer either I. 906 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,400 Didn't I know there is one but I did not. 907 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,040 Please, please educate. Us so there so there's it's not 908 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,960 just one multiplayer it's 2 multiplayer modes and I spun 909 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,520 enough for like 10 minutes to give it a go. 910 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,120 So it the first one is it's it's basically a first person shooter 911 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,560 battle, but you don't play as Superman. 912 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,480 You get to play as one of the various characters. 913 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,880 So you know, dark side the, the, the black got trench coat guys, 914 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,960 whatever, Amazo. But they don't move. 915 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,160 They sit in like a Charles Xavier style hover car and 916 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,840 you're hovering through the city and it's the lowest Polygon city 917 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:45,120 even for this game. I mean, they had to cut down the 918 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,760 number of objects because it's multiplayer and it's split 919 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,720 screen cause of course it is. And you're basically free flying 920 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,920 around the stage shooting a gun from your floating car at the 921 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,200 other player. And there's some mild power ups, 922 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,560 missiles and all that kind of stuff. 923 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,440 Oh, here it is. That's the first multiplayer 924 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,480 mode. Yeah, this is this is it. 925 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,520 It feels like almost like a Mario Party mini game. 926 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,680 That's what it kind of feels like to me. 927 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,120 What? The fuck is this but. 928 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,880 But there's like one texture for the building wall. 929 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,440 They even on some of them use the same texture for the windows 930 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,960 on top of the roof of the building. 931 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,080 It's so janky, but it's this is the one mode. 932 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,760 The second multiplayer mode is race. 933 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,920 One player goes slower, but they lay a trail of rings and the 934 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,400 second player has to fly through the rings to kind kind of beat 935 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,360 them. I'm so. 936 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,080 Amazed they even did this when they're so pressed for time and 937 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,560 so so struggling for gameplay. They added a multiplayer mode 938 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,920 which is which is hilarious. I mean, I guess if you have more 939 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,040 than one controller or you have more than two, you have to have 940 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,080 four player split screen and some I. 941 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,960 You can do two players as well. It's so puzzling though. 942 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,200 Like it like they had to. You don't. 943 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,920 Even play Superman. That's what's at the Super car 944 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,920 Like look why? Why what? 945 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,160 Oh my God that's so weird. I did not try this. 946 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,800 I'm look at all these rings. This makes no sense. 947 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,920 Just make rings. Fly through them. 948 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,440 Yeah, it's it's a wild, it's a wild game. 949 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,600 And I get why it has reputation than it does. 950 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,800 And I don't like this shit on games either, because there's 951 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,320 somebody out there who actually probably really loves this game. 952 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,000 Right? Like Jiggy? 953 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,480 Like you like it as a kid because of the sandbox part? 954 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,240 You, you have some nostalgia. For. 955 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,160 Yeah, right, right. Yeah. 956 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:31,080 Yeah, but this game sucks. It's you know what else has 957 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,800 rings? Star Fox 64. 958 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,440 That game has rings and they're fun. 959 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,720 And that game is fucking awesome, like one of the best 960 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:43,160 games on the console. Just just gather your rings on 961 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,880 that instead. Jiggy, are you? 962 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,240 Are you certainly disappointed that your childhood is now 963 00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:50,320 crushed? No, it was never crushed because 964 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,800 I can acknowledge and look at this game. 965 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,160 Even as a kid I was like, man, going through these, that's why 966 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,040 I specifically told you I was like play indoor levels. 967 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,840 Yes, you did say that, yeah. What one thing I do think 968 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,760 they're more interesting, but they also either run bad or 969 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,600 your, your movement is so limited, which is probably the 970 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,120 most redeeming factor of this game is the movement. 971 00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:18,640 And then you take that away. It's like, well, what do you 972 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,480 have left? Clunky punches. 973 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,600 Yeah, yeah. And, and like it's one of those 974 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,960 games where whether you're Superman or not, it's like this, 975 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,680 this quasi tank control type of thing and that it doesn't, it 976 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,280 doesn't make sense why he why he moves literally like a tank. 977 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,640 Like it doesn't, it's not tank controls like the Resident Evil 978 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,760 sort of ha ha, tank controls Resident Evil. 979 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,800 It is literally just like you can't do anything unless you 980 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,920 you're clunkily move around. Yeah, and barely move left and 981 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,640 right. Like, it's just so stupid when 982 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,120 he's on his feet. So like you said, you give us 983 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,760 space, let us fly around, and then you're OK. 984 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,840 Not everything needs to be amazingly looking. 985 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,560 Not everything needs to be like the greatest metropolis you've 986 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,000 ever seen. But like, for shit's sake, you 987 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,360 know? Yeah, I think if they gave you 988 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,040 just one city like like here, right. 989 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,640 And they just added a bit more detail, like it can still have 990 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,720 the fog. That's fine. 991 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,480 I know. Yeah, it's like all that. 992 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,080 But if they just had this and it was like you fly through the 993 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,320 city and you're saving people and like doing different, 994 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,720 different quest missions and things, I think it would have 995 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:32,520 been not good, but I think it would have. 996 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,160 Been better, yeah. I'm not. 997 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,640 I'm not confident it would actually be any good but it but 998 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,640 it. Wouldn't I liked flying in the 999 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,560 water and pretending I was a dolphin as a kid? 1000 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,040 I did that a lot. Like like up and down and up and 1001 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,400 down. And it makes the splash noise 1002 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,160 every time you do it. Oh, that's the other thing. 1003 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:56,560 OK, so the sound is not terrible at times. 1004 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,560 The music is definitely very repetitive. 1005 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,000 Unfortunately. The one thing I did notice is 1006 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,160 that every once in a while, I don't know when it triggers. 1007 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,920 This is something where it's like, you know, the sound on the 1008 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,920 64 is sometimes pretty good. You know, the music and stuff. 1009 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,040 It's actually one of the one of the better things that can have 1010 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,480 more more consistently across games and stuff, in my opinion. 1011 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,600 And every once in a while when you're flying, I'm going to turn 1012 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,280 the sound on on this. Maybe it'll actually work. 1013 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,360 When you're flying, you can kind of hear like the wind swoosh a 1014 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,480 little bit. Yeah. 1015 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,520 I was like, yeah, maybe it's the turn when you're going to 1016 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,360 certain speed. Yeah, I was like, OK, that's 1017 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,800 some, it's a detail. They didn't have to twin any 1018 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,200 kind of, you know, but that's all it is. 1019 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,760 You know, that's all it is. There's nothing else to it. 1020 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,960 It's just very plain. This is cool. 1021 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,000 The music ramps up a little bit. Pick up the. 1022 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,320 Car. It's just there's only one of 1023 00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,240 them, right? There's only one it's. 1024 00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:01,280 Just a limited soundtrack and that's, I think that's the. 1025 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,960 Problem. That's that's exactly, that's 1026 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,320 it, yeah. Also when you miss, how many 1027 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,720 rings do you have to miss before you fail? 1028 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,240 Cause I've missed like three in a row and it didn't do anything. 1029 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,280 It doesn't. So I I don't think it matters 1030 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,280 how many rings you miss, but you can't miss. 1031 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,080 Like if you skipped past and the ring was like purple or pink, 1032 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,280 like you skipped like three rings or something. 1033 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,200 Like say you fly just by these first three rings and you go to 1034 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,920 the next one and it's pink, then you fail. 1035 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:28,960 Oh, I see. OK. 1036 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,640 Based on distance rather than the amount of rings you miss. 1037 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,520 Oh, so there's ways to cheat it? And you could probably skip a 1038 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,640 ring. I mean, it might penalize you, 1039 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,240 you know, if you do it so many times in a row. 1040 00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:43,000 But. But like, if you miss one, it's 1041 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,680 not like you lose 10 seconds of time or any of that stuff, which 1042 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,640 I thought is what it would be. So that, I mean, maybe in the 1043 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,240 harder difficulty, I actually don't know. 1044 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:54,960 But yeah, anyways, that's that was like the the last thing I 1045 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,120 was like, yeah, this. Yeah, like you said, the music's 1046 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,120 not bad, but it's just it's basically two or three tracks 1047 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:07,080 that replay a million times. And oh, also this part right 1048 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,840 here, the story of the game is played through the options menu. 1049 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:20,440 To understand what is going on in Superman, you have to go to 1050 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,440 let's see, I'm gonna go back through. 1051 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,320 When I went to option series, I think I was looking for the 1052 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,560 controls, maybe by accident or not by accident but for like. 1053 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,240 Story and controls. Story and controls is somehow 1054 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:38,520 one together, why I don't know. And also both like the story is 1055 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,520 in the options menu because when the game starts, all you get is 1056 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,240 Lex standing there with Lois and whoever else is trapped. 1057 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,360 Yeah, ha ha ha. Escape my maze. 1058 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,840 You hear that? Last like my maze like. 1059 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,240 OK, no, you will be. Amazed. 1060 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,560 Oh yeah, we keep, we keep forgetting. 1061 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,880 We keep. Where is I don't have that 1062 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,320 beginning somewhere. Solve my maze. 1063 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,840 Like, no, I'm not going to solve your maze. 1064 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,520 Anyways. If you really want to know what 1065 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,400 the story is, they're like two screens of text. 1066 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,760 You have to go into the options menu. 1067 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,960 That's essential. That's and then it tells you 1068 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:17,520 what the controls are, which are like A and the joystick like 1069 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,920 press. C. 1070 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:21,600 And press B to fly. Yeah, that's it. 1071 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:23,680 Yeah, that's all done. So dumb to. 1072 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,640 Use your power ups. So dumb. 1073 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,480 Yeah, 'cause that's in the comics, Superman has to pick up 1074 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,680 badges before he can use his breath And, and he can that's, 1075 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,320 that's Canon, really. It activates. 1076 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,240 Breathe before he can just breathe. 1077 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,440 Yeah. All right, everybody. 1078 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,440 Superman 64 is not good. Probably not surprised by that. 1079 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,080 But wait, wait, wait. Come on. 1080 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,560 We got to sell this here because I I think it's so bad. 1081 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,120 You can find some entertainment in this. 1082 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,240 Hey man, whatever helps you sleep at night. 1083 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,880 Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah, get, let's get, get some 1084 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,800 buddies, do the multiplayer. That was phenomenal. 1085 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,280 Can. You imagine inviting some 1086 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,880 friends over. Ever paid attention to that you? 1087 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,880 Wanna play some Maria? Party some Goldeneye? 1088 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,680 No, no, no. We're gonna play some Superman 1089 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,560 64. Guys cover car off. 1090 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,600 Yeah, it's, it's it's retro multiplayer night, boys. 1091 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,800 Let's go. Get your rubble packs in. 1092 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,360 Is IT support rumble Pack? It does, yeah. 1093 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,000 And you? Have to like pop the card, the 1094 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,560 memory cartridge to pump in the the the rumble pack and it 1095 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,080 prompts you every time you want to say. 1096 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,920 It every time. Yeah, that's wild. 1097 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,840 Yeah, the fact that I even used space on my memory card for this 1098 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:48,840 game was surprising. I'm not selling it. 1099 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,120 Sorry, Jiggy. I'm not doing it, man. 1100 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,440 It's not good. It's not Go. 1101 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,080 Play it, it's great. OK, all right, You know what 1102 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,200 everyone can it's it's also the best animation in this whole 1103 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,800 game. Is the is the save screen where 1104 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,360 you like it's the it's the brightest, most saturated, sort 1105 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,680 of like that's the best view. Yeah. 1106 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,920 Just his chest. Just his giant muscly chest. 1107 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,760 I. Like these little Daily Planet 1108 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,720 like news? Yeah. 1109 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,000 Online like 90s web. I thought they were 1110 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,760 interactable. I was like, there's a, there's a 1111 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,880 cursor there. Can I move? 1112 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,240 I can't. I wish you good. 1113 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,880 No, I don't know. Maybe give. 1114 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,040 Maybe it would give you a story. Maybe it would give you more 1115 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,040 information or controls instead of having to press pause and do 1116 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,960 story and controls. I don't know. 1117 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,880 All right, we're all on the same page aside from Jiggy. 1118 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:42,040 Never mind, two of us are on the same page, but go play it. 1119 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:43,120 Go play it. All right? 1120 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,880 All right. Some games are so bad they're 1121 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,760 good but this is just bad. I mean you should play at this 1122 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,520 to see how bad it is, but. Go play the sandbox, fly around, 1123 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,400 pick up a car. Yeah. 1124 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,000 That's all you need to do. Yeah, that's all you. 1125 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,080 Need. That's all I'm asking. 1126 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,000 I'm not saying play through the story, I'm just saying. 1127 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,400 Yeah, OK, fair enough. Yeah, yeah. 1128 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:02,520 Don't do that to yourself, people. 1129 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,000 Please, please be. A dolphin live as a dolphin, not 1130 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,680 just Superman. You're super dolphin. 1131 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,240 Super Dolphin. Super Dolphin 64. 1132 00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:15,400 You heard it here first. All right, Jake, before we let 1133 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,000 you out of here, where can everybody find your awesome 1134 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,600 stuff online? Man, you got a great show going 1135 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,040 on that I was on a couple months ago. 1136 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,000 I think it was a. February, Yeah, Yeah. 1137 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,800 February. We talked about Best Sense 64 1138 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,560 Games. I don't know. 1139 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:28,800 Yeah. Well, I know. 1140 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,880 Yeah, we talked about Best Sense 64 Games. 1141 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,760 So, yeah. You can find my podcast, press 1142 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,800 me to cancel. You can watch us over on YouTube 1143 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,720 or Twitch. We live stream on Fridays at 1144 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,880 8:30 PM Eastern, or you can listen to the audio episodes 1145 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,200 wherever you listen to podcasts on the following Monday. 1146 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,920 So yeah, we've been doing it for about four years. 1147 00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,920 And it's it's similar to what yourself do here, retro games, 1148 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,160 although we don't confide ourselves to bad ones like this, 1149 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,680 although we we do talk about bad ones occasionally. 1150 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:59,560 I will say that that 64 episode was much more not contentious or 1151 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,160 or or anything like in a bad way, but like some of the titles 1152 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,320 that came up. I was like, how is are any of 1153 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,600 you saying that this is not the game that should win this head 1154 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,480 to head? Like it was just I was blown 1155 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,960 away sometime. I know we both were in some 1156 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,920 ways, but it was like, come on boys, I don't understand. 1157 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,400 Why nobody picked Turok with me? Turok is a solid game. 1158 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,040 Nobody. Nobody backed me up on Turok. 1159 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,080 I was kind of. Upset. 1160 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,560 What was the? Game upset about it. 1161 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,280 That was the secret one you pulled out, right? 1162 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,080 Yes, Yeah, yeah. What was up against though? 1163 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,720 That's why I don't remember what it was. 1164 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,000 It was. Mario 64 or Banjo or or Turok 1165 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,560 and and nobody went with Turok and kind of shocked, I don't 1166 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,360 know. Yeah, well, between those three, 1167 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,400 between those three, I'm I'm, you know, the banjo guy, but 1168 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,040 Turok's not a bad game. It's not definitely not 1169 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,600 something I'm going to I'm going to bad mouth. 1170 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,720 Not not at all. Not at all. 1171 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:51,280 So listen to that hilarity and the best in 64 games, narrowing 1172 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,560 them down from how many do we have like 12 or 10 or something. 1173 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,280 It was a decent amount. I. 1174 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,880 Think we did. I think we did 10 for that one, 1175 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,480 yeah. We were trying to keep it under 1176 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,600 under two hours this time. So I think we kept it there 1177 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:01,880 doing it. Did it tough. 1178 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,000 Yeah. Well, it's, it's a big round 1179 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,280 table. So it was, it was interesting. 1180 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,560 It was fun. Brett, press B to cancel find on 1181 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,360 your podcast feed. And Jiggy, what about you, man? 1182 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,800 What's what's happened over the last little while? 1183 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,640 Oh man, just put out a defending Starfox Adventures video that 1184 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,520 was a lot of fun. It's doing pretty well. 1185 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,280 Channels growing, ever growing. Did you look back on YouTube? 1186 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,600 Because I always forget to say that. 1187 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,240 Yeah, got some some cool things cooking. 1188 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,600 I'm starting to get people reaching out and asking for 1189 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,600 reviews on stuff on products and games and things like that, 1190 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,800 which is really cool. So I'll be doing some more of 1191 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,440 that, kind of expanding what I do on my channel a little bit, 1192 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,040 but not detracting from what I'm doing, just in addition to what 1193 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,720 I'm doing. So yeah, it's a lot of fun. 1194 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:57,320 If you like Rareware Nintendo 64, I make kind of theory videos 1195 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,680 and deep. Deep dives I would say. 1196 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,600 Deep dives and all. Yeah, all sorts of stuff. 1197 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,080 I've, I kind of. You ever think about the fish 1198 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,560 food from Jet Force Gemini? Well, I have a reason why they 1199 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,280 put the fish food in there. OK, even they didn't have a 1200 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:16,320 reason. I created a reason but I backed 1201 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,560 it up with points. Well, that that's the thing 1202 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,680 that's not just shooting the shit for the hell. 1203 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,360 Like if there's there's research involved, everybody research 1204 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,560 involved, the science, the science is real. 1205 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,240 Yeah, yeah, watch my backpack video. 1206 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,280 Oh, that's, that's a. That's a gem. 1207 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,800 Math was involved in anything I did related to Banjo Kazooie is 1208 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,040 hilarious. That's why it's worth a watch, 1209 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,160 man. That's why it's worth a watch. 1210 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,920 Check that out, Jiggy. Look back on YouTube. 1211 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,080 You can support this show and follow it all along on your 1212 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,640 podcast app of choice. Any kind of rating always helps 1213 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,480 us, but hopefully a good one. That would be nice, but if you 1214 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,040 don't like it, let me know. Maybe I'll make some 1215 00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,680 improvements. Maybe I won't because I'm tired 1216 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,040 and I'm old and I don't have time, but just. 1217 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,960 Give them five stars, because why would you? 1218 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,120 Why would you be a jerk? I don't. 1219 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,080 Yeah. Yeah, just yeah. 1220 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,840 Or you could do that. Describe and give them a likes. 1221 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,280 It's free, just you know. That that's true, that is free, 1222 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,480 but if you don't want it to be free, anyone support the show on 1223 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,040 Patreon? You can patreon.com/remember 64 1224 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,320 show little as a buck a month. You will get episodes early, 1225 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:26,160 some extra content when I have the time and all of that stuff, 1226 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,280 videos and things early before they go up on YouTube. 1227 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,680 All that stuff is on there anywhere from 1:00 to 6:00 bucks 1228 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,080 or five bucks a month. So pretty small and just keep 1229 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,160 the show going. Help us improve things here as 1230 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,040 we go as well. But that's pretty much it. 1231 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,240 Find us on podcast feeds right across the the internets, as 1232 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,720 they say say, that's what the kids say these days, don't they? 1233 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,200 That's it. Everybody don't play Superman 64 1234 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,640 unless you're jiggy. We'll talk to you next time. 1235 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,440 Thanks very much. I believe they say the world 1236 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,720 wide webs. Oh, that's what it is. 1237 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,640 It's kibbity toilet web now or something. 1238 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,000 It's a what?