You are Superman, all the powers are yours.
Flight, deep vision, super speed, super strength, freezing
breath and X-ray vision by early.
You receive the DC. Comics collector's edition
Superman comic book? Then there's no time to waste.
Welcome to the show, everyone. My name is David Petrangelo, and
64 whole bits cannot save me from being great at my own video
game. I am awesome.
Up, up and get the hell away from this damn game.
What the hell am I doing? Oh my God.
More rings. Get Me Out of here.
Hello, Jiggy. Look back.
How are you? Welcome back to the show.
Hello. I'm doing fantastic.
OK, now viewers picture me with a button up shirt, right?
I'm running down an alleyway to help a screaming lady.
I had a bit a big jiggy. He had a giant jiggy.
Oh my God, 15. Minutes and it's very
uncomfortable. Do you sell merch?
Because if you don't sell merch with a jiggy on it, I think
you're missing out. Because that's pretty awesome.
I definitely do have merch and I have a store, but I haven't
really pushed it yet. I'm still building stuff.
Well, now you have another idea. Clearly the Superman logo with
the the jiggy on it. Yeah, 'cause there's no
licensing problems with that. You can definitely get away with
it. Yeah, it's.
Not like Nintendo sues these days.
They they don't even. Notice it's no, no, no D CS too
busy making really bad movies to even notice that either.
So just you're fine, you're good and that lovely other voice that
you're that you're hearing is Jake from press speed to cancel.
Hello Sir, welcome back to remember 64.
It has been a while. Thanks for having me back.
Yeah, I guess I was on Wow two years ago or a year and a half.
Ago it is about a yeah, about a year and a half ago.
Early days for for Blast Corps, yeah.
Yeah, before you're doing video. Yeah.
Yeah, we went from a really fantastic, one of my favorite
games on the N64 to. What we're talking about today
game. On the N64.
Awesome. The one that has rivals your all
time favorite. Yeah, all bangers all.
Bangers. All.
The time I mean, they wouldn't call it super if it was bad,
right? Of of course not.
That's right, of course not. Super game for a Superman.
Absolutely, Jake, you are that Superman.
Well, thank you. I'll try to be.
Try to be We're all going to do our best this time.
We're all going to do our best. If you haven't already picked up
on it, yes, we are talking about what is usually known as
Superman 64. But the full title, which I
didn't really realize I just thought it was just called
Superman is Superman Colon, The New Superman Adventures.
That's the full title, and that is?
'Cause the old adventures weren't good enough, we have to
make another one, yeah? Have to make another one and,
and, and it is tied in that way because it is based on like the
the cartoon and comics and stuff that were going on at the time.
So they just, they named it the same way I think because it was
the way it was licensed through Titus and all that stuff.
That seems like they just, that's how they had to do it.
What a bunch of other games were just called Superman around that
time or before. This is how they differentiated
it because of the animation style and stuff like that.
So. Let me just say the cartoon
banger. Is it the animated?
Series Banger. The Justice League series that
connects them both. Banger.
Yeah. Well, I will say that the Batman
one is one of my favorite animated shows of all time, if
not my favorite. It's incredible.
He connects with the Superman. It's pretty dope.
Yeah, he does. Yeah right, right.
They would cry cause yeah like the the animators and the.
Stand and takes Lois away from Superman.
It's awesome. Yeah, I'll, I'll say the DC
animated has always been a step above, right.
I mean, I could, I could live without the DC movies, but the
animation stuff is always stellar.
I love the animated series. The Superman cartoon's fantastic
Justice League, though. Justice League is a choice
freaking show for sure. Young Justice, even, is great.
Young Justice was great until the last season, I think, which
they like, revived it or whatever, but yeah, it was
great. I gotta I gotta look that up.
I don't think I've seen Young Justice.
Oh, that one. Yeah, yeah, No, I think I may
have seen a few episodes here and there, but but that's it.
The first season. Especially is amazing.
Well, there's Four Seasons, so decent amount.
OK, nice. OK, so we have a lot to dig into
or very little to dig into. We'll see how this episode goes.
I'm not quite sure as we get started, as we get into it.
You know, Jake, we've we talked about when you're on the Blast
Corpse episode about your experience with the 64.
Do you have experience with this game?
Or did I just ask you if you were around and you said, you
know what? I feel like punishment.
So yes. So, I mean, this is a game that
I, I did not play as a kid, but I of course heard the
reputation. I have tried it.
I mean, a couple of years ago, I gave it a go.
I did not get very far. But when you mentioned that
you're going to do an episode on this, I figure, you know, why
not let me give another shot. Maybe I've gotten better.
Maybe it's not the game that's bad.
Maybe it's me that that fails yours.
Gave another go this week and I did my homework.
I did not get very far, but I did try.
A valiant effort. Interesting try, but I I did my
homework by watching some YouTube videos of some full
playthroughs and it's a it's a game.
Man, you really got to do a whole episode on this one, huh?
I know it's almost like should we just like put a bunch of
really bad games together, but then then you're just going to
be talking about all this whatever.
Anyways, I'll. I'll guess with Elmo we learn
something. I mean, that was that was a
positive experience. You know what me and me and
Jiggy came away with? With more positive thoughts on
that game, or at least I did than I thought we would with
those Elmo games. Like they're not, they're not
meant for us and that's OK. That's great to have options for
kids and everything. But like, it wasn't a horrible
experience. It was just simple and that's
OK. Let me tell you something, if
you put a bunch of letters in a crowd or in a group, right in
Group setting, they're just all clumped together and you tell me
to find a specific letter. Like specifically the letter FI
could do it like 3 seconds faster than I used to for sure.
Like a line up like. Power of Elmo, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you.
I'm telling you just like it's like F.
Like if they're lined up like in a classic, you know when you go
to the police station, Yeah, the police line up is like that.
Like I found the F Elmo Tommy, that's an F.
That's valuable life skills, right?
There it is after a week of Superman.
I'm telling you right now, if I see a series of hoops, I could
probably do half of them. That's.
Right. Nice.
So you're gonna sink a bunch of basketball baskets as well,
obviously. Like that's the idea.
It translates, right? Yeah, it's totally.
The same thing. It's.
Totally the same thing, guys. Basketball's the same as playing
Superman 64. We're just just, we're just
letting you know, that's all you have to do.
If you're gonna take anything away from this episode, it's
that Jiggy, you had some experience with this in the
past. What's up with that, man?
Why? I just, so actually my cousins
had this game and they had this game and Starfox 64 and I was at
their house and I was playing them and I loved both.
And so I got both Starfox 64 and Superman for myself because I
like them so much. So Superman never really played
the I mean, I did play through the levels later, but I spent
most of the time in the training.
OK. Like there's a training level
where you can go and you can get your ice powers, you can get
your heat vision, which why do you have to get little emblems
to use those? Video video games, that's why.
Video games, yeah. So anyways, there was like one
enemy you could fight and then you could pick up a car and I
would spend hours just freezing the car, heat visioning the car,
flying around with the car, like putting it on buildings,
throwing it off buildings. Like I just found so much
enjoyment in that I that's it. OK, OK.
Before there's Gary's mod, there was Superman 64, I guess.
I mean, I didn't realize that much fun in the sandbox.
Yeah, it's. Fun.
I mean, we wouldn't have Minecraft if it wasn't for this
game, correct? Right.
Correct. Is that what you're saying?
That's what you're saying, right?
Obviously has this legacy right there.
Yeah, here's. The thing those rings, I mean,
it's it's a tragedy that they made that like a gameplay
mechanic. But the actual flight controls
aren't that bad. They're, they're OK.
I, I think he, I think he just turns too quickly.
Like he just moves a little too fast left and right.
Yeah. All you, all you did was all
you. This is me playing like, I think
for the first time, maybe, maybe second time, all you just run
into the car and throw it like, you know, like, and then press a
button. I don't even know what the
buttons are. I just mash the buttons to
figure out what does what. Is that how you throw cars in
this game? I use this so it's A or B.
The first stage I did maybe 12 times and then Lex wins, Lex
wins, Lex wins, and then I accidentally beat it.
I was so stunned that I beat the first stage and you have
precious seconds to throw a goddamn car.
I couldn't figure out how to land.
But the flying I, I'm with you guys is not so bad.
It's not terrible, but the landing is awful.
Like, would you want to land and get back up again?
If you're over water and you hit the land button, you go to the
bottom of the bloody ocean and you want to get back up again.
It's a chore, but I mean, if once you're in the sky, it's,
it's OK. Yeah, like, I mean, it's not too
bad. To pull some advice from my phys
Ed teacher in high school, you got you got to fly and ride
Superman like you ride a football.
Just gently, just gently, gingerly, just caress the
buttons. Don't don't manhandle them.
Don't do that. It's it's.
True, because if you if you go too fast or although I did watch
a couple of like playthroughs of like the later levels and people
fly through some of the ones where the rings move and stuff
at full speed. And I'm like, wow, you're the
Superman playing this. Honestly, you are Superman
because I don't understand how anyone could do that.
Again, not really because the controls are terrible, but it's
just not conducive to what they're asking you to do.
Like it just does not. I, I can't, I can't understand.
I don't think it's horrible. This the the rings and
everything. Like it's dumb that it's
constant, but at least the flying is probably the most
manageable part, or at least the most functional part of the
game. I don't know.
If it was, if it was a bonus level, I think it'd be OK in
hindsight. I mean, if it was an occasional
bonus level, it didn't matter if you got all the rings, you just
got points or a bonus for for doing it.
But it's not though. It's mandatory and you do it
basically. I think every second or third
stage you have rings to fly through pretty much.
And they just keep adding more time to that clock and more
rings. The final ring stage, it's just
a constant stream you fly through and it's like 10
minutes. So I mean, if it was, if it was
optional, it'd be OK. It, it would just be fine.
I, I always pull up some information as to the
development of games and everything.
And so, OK, So what I, what I don't get is, or actually what I
have some sympathy for. So that, so this game is made by
Titus, Titus Interactive, Titus Interactive.
I look through the list of games that I've, that I've covered so
far and played so far for the show.
And I was like, oh, I could have sworn that we played more of
their games so far, but we haven't, didn't have a ton of
N64 games. The one that we did play though
was Carmageddon. So already I was like, oh Jesus,
here we go. But looking through everything
about this game and how it was developed, it actually seems
like it wasn't really their fault that this game was as, or
at least part of it wasn't quite their fault for how much they
kind of got screwed over with it.
So the founder of Titus Kane, Eric Kane or Kern Kane Kane, we
were talking before about how the animated series Batman, for
example, is such a great show that was on at this time.
And this guy was like, you know what, we should gobble up a
Superman license and make a game on it.
That would be great. You know, not a not a property
that is super hot right now. You know, death of Superman
happened a few years ago and all these things like everyone knows
who Superman is, but not a hot commodity.
Maybe we'll have a chance. Ended up getting the license for
it. And they're like, oh shit, this
is great, awesome. WB, let us have it, DC, let us
have it. And then what happened was the
is it the licensing? Yeah, the licensing team at
Warner Brothers was fired or let go like a month later after they
got this deal. And I don't know if you guys can
even guess what kind of game this Warner Brothers and that
licensing team wanted to make instead out of Superman.
This is before development even started.
This was like very early stages. Obviously.
Take a wild guess what kind of game they wanted to make, and
then I will tell you that you're wrong and tell you what the
correct answer is. Fighting game.
OK, Jake Kart. Racer.
Good guesses actually both. Both make sense or could make
sense or you could see the reality of it.
No, instead the first demand that they had was to make a SIM
like game where Superman would be the mayor of Metropolis.
They wanted to make a SIM City essentially where he was the
mayor. When is he ever the mayor of
Metropolis? And why in any way would that
have anything to do with Superman or be fun in any
capacity? I just that was their idea.
That's what they wanted. Weird.
So they basically stonewalled them the whole time, delaying
them, not giving them assets. Eventually they did get what
they needed to sort of make, you know, the characters and stuff
to be able to have their likenesses and everything.
But they screwed them over for months and months and months.
The game came out six months late, then later than they
wanted it to, partially because they weren't being given what
they needed to create it. Maybe it wouldn't have been an
amazing game if Carmageddon is an example that's, you know,
well, probably not the most fantastic result.
But I mean, I think if you're if you're just being stonewalled at
every every turn when you're just trying to make some sort of
game with a superhero and want to make it SIM City, like, come
on. I don't know, I find that
absolutely ridiculous. But maybe it's just me.
I can't even wrap my brain around the concept of this being
a SIM City clone. It just does not.
It just doesn't work. Even if it was a city builder
with Superman is is like the an MPC who flies around or
something like Bowser did in the original SIM city on on on snaz.
That doesn't make sense. Like how do you take the Man of
Steel and you turn that into a city builder?
Like it just it just does not fit at all.
I don't get it build. The city he goes and picks up
the pieces like. He literally.
Like Lego blocks the buildings when he bounces off them.
I guess maybe the damage he caused over decades of being a
hero he has to rebuild the city. Like maybe he's the.
Repairman like is that what it is?
It doesn't it doesn't make sense It's so it's so stupid and then
you know what it's it's unfortunate because like you
know, you have superhero games and you know not all of them hit
especially like early SNES days. A lot of it was like 2D
platformer and sometimes it would be a fighting game, or at
least eventually these became fighting games and stuff.
All that. OK, you know, are they all home
runs? No, but at least you could do
something with it. At least you can kind of embody
a superhero in this. Like we said, maybe the flying.
I don't know. Is there any other redeeming
qualities to the gameplay here, guys?
I don't know. The powers, they're fun.
Are they? Are they fun though?
Are you sure? They're there.
They exist. I think when you, when you use,
when you don't, when you're not forced to use them, they're fun.
Like in your, like in your sandbox mode that you spend
hours in. Sandbox mode, if you just have
heat vision, you're sitting there just like like it's, it's
fun. Sorry, what was that sound
effect? What is that?
What is that college humor skit with bad man?
Not Batman, but it's bad man. Oh.
And then he talks about how Superman's really lame with his
powers. He's like, is that soup too hot,
ma'am? OK.
Here you go. Yeah.
There is like. I'd use it to cut Bates arm off.
There is escort missions in this game, and one of the tactics to
get through those without with your sanity is to protect the
person you're escorting. You freeze them with your freeze
breath into a block of ice. That's kind of fun in a I'm so
pissed off of this game. It's an outlet for me so I can
just freeze Jimmy to keep him that day for a minute.
That's kind of entertaining. It's very stupid.
It makes no sense, Jimmy. I know it makes no sense that
freezing the escort. Freezing your escort is how you
get through them is a very weird gimmick.
Well, yeah, you're not escorting them, you're just.
Icing them. I icing them.
I don't know. I was like, well, he was like,
what's the turb? I don't know.
So so the the rings, the ring stuff is what everybody
remembers from these games, right.
And what's odd about this that I realized was that one.
So I read up a little bit about the game and and wrote some of
the notes down and stuff before I started playing.
I was like, I just want to see what some of this development
situation was here. And that same studio Co founder
defended the fact that the rings.
I mean this you got to defend your work.
I guess in some ways I don't, you know, I don't necessarily
think that's a terrible thing. I I get it.
Maybe you don't think it's the greatest game, but maybe you can
actually say like, oh, at least we tried our best or whatever in
that in I think I think it might have been an IGN interview from
like, you know, 25 years ago or something.
He defended the fact that the ring things are in it saying,
Oh, it is only the tutorial levels and it is not the whole
game. But like you guys just said
before, no, it's not. It's every couple of like things
you do is that it's absolutely that is untrue 100%.
And I I don't understand the need to want to do that over and
over and over again. I don't are they really just
running out of ideas? Like I just don't.
I don't know, man. If.
You take them out. Oh.
Go ahead. If you take the ring stages out,
this game is still fairly long without the ring stages, right?
Yeah, there's, there's a decent amount of stages.
I mean, regarding, is that what it is 14?
Yeah. And the stages are actually kind
of long, right. And the frustrating part, which
I think you were alluding to, but before I can't remember what
you guys said it. Oh, you have to restart or
whatever, right? I thought the restart was oh, I
failed the ring thing. OK, restart at that section.
No, that it's like the checkpoints or like the entire,
let's say 20 minutes, half an hour, whatever it takes you or
whatever, right? That's the problem is that if
you fail one out of four things that you have to do or five
things you have to use to start all the way back over and it
just feels really, really tedious.
And I just some of the decisions that they came up with, stuff
like that, It just feels extra old school when the game is
already just kind of bullshit. Yeah, and the rings, like you'd
think, OK, they're using this to point to where you're going
because there's a lot of fog in this game, right?
But then they also have the compass down in the bottom right
corner that tells you where you need to go.
So it's like there's further no proof or no reason to have these
rings. So it's just it's time killer is
all it is. And also the funny set up with
the ring stuff is that apparently it's a maze.
According to Lex's Lex Luthor's instructions.
You have to escape my maze or beat my maze.
And it's like, this isn't a maze.
A maze is where I would. I'm only getting lost because
this game controls like Pooh, not because this is an actual
maze. No, I said.
Where the rings are Lex. Amazed.
At this stupid idea. Misheard me with your superhero
Superman. So that that compass actually
goes away if you play on the harder difficulty, which you
kind of want to do because you want the hard difficulty,
because you get the actual, you get the real ending if you play
it on the hard difficulty. I didn't know that.
What's the real ending? I should look that up.
I'm going to look that up. I think, I think you get a
single screen. I think is what it is.
It's not. It's nothing mind blowing, but
the game ends really if you play on normal, they want you to play
on Superman difficulty because really, if you if you master the
rings, you truly are Superman. Sure I did, I did notice too.
I didn't know this until I read up on it but you whoop that's
loud sound in my ear. You if you put on easy, I don't
know if you if you switch to easy at all.
The ring stages have no rings, it just gives you an end point
and you can just fly wherever you want.
Pre fly. OK, OK.
Yeah, Which could be preferable? I don't know, maybe that's
preferable. But also it's like, what then
what's the point, right? Like what's the point?
I'll tell you what the point is. The point is, you're Superman.
It should be easy. It should be no problem for you.
That's. That's a good point though.
That's true because Superman is a character.
He's hard to do a video game for, or at least a good video
game, because he is Superman. He is literally the most
powerful hero in most universes. So what do you do with the
character who is invincible? Right?
Like I, I think there's only one good Superman game I've ever
played and it's the arcade game really.
And I. Don't.
Think that was legit game did you?
Ever play the Man of Steel one that was on like Xbox 360?
No. No, I didn't play that.
Yeah, are not Man of Steel. I mean Superman Returns, there
is a Man of Steel one, but I mean Superman Returns based off
the movie, that one was really interesting.
I think it had potential because it was essentially, it was
essentially an open world Superman game.
You're flying around Metropolis. You could do things like fly up
into the sky and then shoot down like a meteor.
And you'd have like random, you know, Spider Man 2 style pop up
quests where you have to save the citizens.
You have to defeat robots. You have to do like it was, it
wasn't perfect, but you could see the potential there.
And I think there was a game, I can't think of what it's called.
I believe it's free and you can get it on Steam.
It's like an indie game where they took the concept from
Superman Returns and refined it and made a pretty fun game out
of it. And it's and it's, it's not
Superman based or or like it actually has Superman or no.
It's not Superman. But it's a.
Guy with, like, sunglasses and he's, you know, he is.
He's got the same powers, basically.
Gotcha. It's right.
It's awesome. Yeah.
I got to I I got to say, trying to figure out what to do in
these stages as I watch my stupid decisions of for some
reason, flying underwater. I I like there's no it's like
the side doors open when you pick up like a thing.
It's like what side doors where I don't what I've seen one.
Door man, I punch it. That's how you use computers,
apparently. Yeah, Very obscure game.
It it's just yeah, it doesn't make any sense talking about
other versions of the game. Apparently there was a a
PlayStation version of this game that the same company was making
that never got released. But it was like pretty much done
like essentially just completely finished like 90 something
percent done. I'm going to switch over so we
can look at it. But it is kind of the same game.
I don't think it's drastically different or anything like that,
but it looks a little bit cleaner in some ways.
A lot of it takes place inside, at least according to the videos
that I looked up. You know, some of the some of
the textures and stuff are kind of mucky and whatever.
That's PlayStation, That's the era, whatever, right?
It is what it is. That's yeah, exactly so.
But the saturation though the colors pop a lot more on
Superman. It's way more colorful.
Even though you're underground and everything's brown,
everything's still more colorful somehow.
Yeah, I think. Objectively if I looked at both
of those side by side I'd be like the PlayStation one looks
way cooler. Yes, it does and he and he looks
better too like oh, add go away, add I don't need small I'm not a
small business owner. I don't have money to have a
small business go away. OK, back to the game.
Where's another stage and stuff? There's there's a couple stages
here that it like this is another sort of like underground
bunker type of stage thing. It's just still looks more
interesting graphics. This looks good.
Yeah. Like the textures here look a
lot better. When I think PlayStation One, I
keep thinking of Final Fantasy 7's lack of textures on things,
on everything. Or think of something like
siphon, siphon filter where it's just kind of grainy.
But this, these look pretty clean.
I'm. I'm kind of surprised they
didn't release this actually. I know, I think it was what I
read up on it was that it was like a it was like a Warner
Brothers thing that Superman 64 actually made money like because
people bought it because it's Superman and it's, you know, the
time that whatever it's sold decently well or well enough.
But I think it was like just disappointment and reception and
all those types of they got. There's no set reason that I
found at least. But the fact that it just wasn't
released kind of sucks. It sucks because people work on
this stuff too. And everything that I saw every
time I saw this game mentioned was that it was like a minimum
of 80 or 90% finished. So like this is a very finished
product and that's just unfortunate.
So I don't know. Yeah, you can play this today
for the for. I mean, I'm not gonna advertise
where, but you can do this regulation and I think you just
have to use some level skip codes to get through certain
blockers, but I think you can play through most of it.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it looks like it's worthwhile if you if
you get a chance to sort of give it a shot so.
He literally changed his costume when he went underwater like he
was. He turned into Aquaman
essentially as scuba. Why does he need?
That why does he need a scuba tank?
Yeah, he could go into space. It's Scuba Steve.
Movie online, yeah. Scuba Steve.
Well, that just triggered a memory.
Yeah, man, I love that movie. That's classic.
Yeah. So Superman 64 is a mess.
Like, let's be honest, it is a very, very messy game.
I don't know, aside from like the ring stages, I don't really
know like what what improves it? I don't know, like there's
there's so little to sort of say like, oh, if this hat like
sometimes there's games where it's like, oh, if they just sort
of checked a couple of extra boxes or made a small change
with this or that, then it's like, great, you got this, like
you, you've made a more polished version of this game or
whatever. I just think there's just so
much in this that is not great that it would be really hard for
that to happen, I think. I think you give it a Dynasty
Warriors treatment. Let's just have tons of enemies
running at you at the same time. Oh.
Shit, OK. Let's give Superman all his
powers accessible at all times. There's no there's no limit.
I I don't know why they would ever do that.
That was dumb. But if you treated it like, you
know, like a Dynasty Warriors, like hack and slash, just like
every level and he gave you plenty of space to to work
right, I think that would be a lot cooler.
Yeah, yeah, like you said that you had a lot of fun with like
the practice mode because it was more sandbox like.
And when you mentioned that that Xbox game that that sounds like
a great idea to me. Superman is definitely something
that would work better in a wide open space.
Why is he flying through under underwater tunnels?
It doesn't doesn't jive with me. But if it's open sandbox and
you're just dozens of mooks coming at you like mobs,
henchman, That makes sense. Cause the enemies in this, I
don't wanna say damage sponges, but they take a few hits and
again, you're Superman. Why do they take more than one
punch right? It doesn't make a lot of sense.
The, the, it was on the footage that you had Dave, but there's a
scene in like the first part where you go and there's like 4
enemies lined up and you just stop.
And 1st off, Superman's like punching animation is just
silly. He's just like uppercut like.
Also, his run. His run is hilarious.
His body doesn't move, just his arms.
Just arms. Yeah, looks looks like a like a
a Mull Walker. That's what he looks like.
It's just a great poster. Great poster, though.
Great poster A. Nutcracker.
A Nutcracker. That's it.
Yeah. But yeah, you're.
But you punch him, right? And they're animated
hilariously. When you punch them, they're
like, yeah, like fly off the screen.
And it's so satisfying to just go down a line of them and just
punch, punch, punch, punch. They're one shots.
They go flying. That's what Superman is.
That's what it should be. Or, or you fly into them and
just knock them all down like they're like they're bowling
pins like. Yeah, that's what it should be,
yeah. That is so much fun.
It doesn't, you know now obviously they.
Fly them up in the sky and just drop.
Them. Oh my God, that'd be great.
There's the one stage where you have to fight dark side.
I think it's dark. Yeah, it's dark side.
And you, you go, you have a small skirmish with him.
You punch me a few times. He he falls flat on his back,
which does not make sense. But then you're picking him up
above your arms and you're walking down the hallways.
I think you're supposed to take him to a cop car.
I think it is to get him arrested, which this is like,
this is like one of the new gods, one of those powerful
super villains in their mythos. And you're picking him up over
your shoulder, getting stuck on the ceiling 'cause you know,
Superman 64 geometry and he's getting arrested by the cops.
This, this is the the battle. This is what's in Lex's
simulation. Like that's the other thing is
this is all so so the ring thing, all of this stuff that's
happening is supposed to be a simulation.
It's. All a game.
It's all it's literally all a game.
Do you want to play a game like it's just it's what it is.
No, I definitely do not. This is the is this the dark
seed level? No, it's not.
Hold on. I'm trying to change it over so
we can see it, but it's it's like, Oh my God, it's moving so
clunky. What is this person playing this
thing on? So this is the stage where
there's destructible walls and if you're in the area of those,
the frame rate tanks like it's a cool concept, destructible walls
that they ruin the frame rate and.
Right, one of these things. Where I wish they could have
performed it better. Yeah, like that's these, these
the shadow figures. The shadow hench men.
They look like like just a punch.
Hey, there goes the wall. Oh.
Wait, there it goes. Look.
Look other than physics. Look at those physics.
Oh, I. Love it.
Like that's the other thing too, is there's not a ton going on in
many areas of this game just because it's it's very empty.
But like you just said, Jake, the the frame rate just chugs
for some reason. It's not like there's overly
detailed textures around you. It's not like, yeah, the Cape
flaps a little bit. That's all that's really
happening. Why is it?
Why is it chugging like you're playing on this old school PC
with a brand new, you know, whatever Call of Duty game or
something? You know what I mean?
Like it just doesn't doesn't add up to me.
Have you? Have you guys seen the speed run
of this? Have you guys watched it before?
I've never seen the speed. Run of this I, I have seen parts
of it. I've seen parts of it, yeah.
The fun part of the speed run, I don't know if the world record
still uses this trick, but the trick was if you go on the
options there's an option to change the render size of the
screen. So the speed run Strat is to
shrink it down to the size of a postage stamp.
Beat the game and because it's so small it renders faster and
that's how you get through these stages 'cause this this would
slow you down your time. Right.
That is definitely not something that I saw.
That's hilarious. Yeah.
That's unreal. The frame rate is killer.
It's so bad and I don't understand it.
Like I really, I, I don't get it because there's just not enough
going on here for this, for it to be a problem like that's,
that's so puzzling to me. I don't know I I understand that
you're only capable of doing so much.
I know that like the what's funny too.
I don't know if you guys noticed the fog or I think I don't even
know. Does he say this?
Does Lex say this? The fog is green and it's made
it a kryptonite. Like, like hilarious hilarious.
Well, you know what? I appreciate that though,
because that's, that goes back to me liking Turok.
The the the fog was part of the gameplay experience.
It made sense to have the fog. I agree.
Superman, there'd be fog. Yeah, my fog.
Sure, why not? I mean, at least it's a
simulation did. You ever play that one?
No, on this, I have not played it.
No, that's gonna be on the list, that's for sure.
'Cause they, they put the fog in, so you're like on top of the
buildings and all below is filled with the fog.
And in the story, it's just like they gasped the city.
And it's it's pretty awesome actually.
It's a good way of doing this. Sequence.
Yeah, I love when they give a reason for it.
Yeah, yeah. Like in Turok, it's, it's more
just like, oh, you're in the jungle and it's like the
rainforest, you know, whatever you wanna call it.
And so, you know, for the most part, not everywhere, but for
the most part, I, I could see that, you know, there's the one
state, what's the one stage called in, in Goldeneye.
Same thing when you're out in the jungle where you.
Like the Amazon with the What's her name?
Yeah, where you face? Yeah.
On the top. Yeah, exactly.
When you face her and stuff like makes sense.
And I think Jiggy, when we played that game last year and
covered it, we're like, oh, this is like Turok, That's what this
feels like. And it makes sense.
It totally does. It's just there's there's not
enough of that in this to justify the frame rate dropping
like a like a fucking brick in the ocean.
Like it just it's ridiculous. Boom, there goes the wall.
Like that's cool. That looks like it.
That looks like when I did that, it breaks open like you are.
The walls in this particular level break open like it is an
animated TV show almost right. The bricks are kind of just all
in one piece and they just kind of fall to the side.
Looks good, looks good, but nothing else does.
Just 5 frames of animation, that's all.
That's the only problem. That's all you do?
Yeah. Punch that car, Superman.
Punch that car. Oh, no.
Here is Luther's card or car. I don't even know what that
sound. I don't remember that at all.
This bank card Superman needs some new threads.
He needs that scuba suit. And he's a where's that?
Where's that PlayStation scuba suit?
What's the other thing? The other thing I had to was I
found the Nintendo Power issue. I always try to find Nintendo
Power and see how they promote terrible games.
Nintendo Power always looks way cooler than it actually is.
Like every single time. It's such a good job.
Just OK, so this is Kate. The crazy thing about this.
I'll I'll show you after you guys can guess like well, not
guess, but I'll show you how out of place Superman looks in this
issue, the game of. Steel.
The game of Steel, it is issue 114 November of 1998.
So this, they're promoting this game as if it's like the next
coming of Superman. I guess I was gonna say Christ,
but the problem with this, one of the issues is when you flip
through all these pages, none of them show rings.
You have 6 pages of Superman. Nothing.
Why? Would you only show the
tutorial? That doesn't make sense.
It's a sense, right? It's if.
This if this, the creator of the studio said, oh, the rings are
just the tutorial, they're not really the game.
They must have added those interspersed levels to pad it
out. They had to have late late in
the stage. Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe that's exactly what it is I need.
To grab something because this looks more like.
Something else he's he's getting a hula hoop as we speak for the
audio listener, he's going to go through a ring.
Jump through it. Nice moves, nice moves.
No, I was going to say this looks more like this game that I
have on GameCube. Game command.
Shadow of Apocalypse, which is Tuber Man 64 but on GameCube
essentially. Is it really better?
It's a little bit better, but it's still like it runs choppy
and everything, but it like has like, I mean, it looks better
saturate. Does it have rings?
Yeah. Does it have rings?
That's the question it. Does not.
OK, But yeah, it's like this is what these screenshots even make
it look like. Like they're more saturated.
Yeah, they. Look more.
They look more. Which is more?
The cartoon was very colorful, like the the style of the
cartoon more it was like the opposite of the Batman animated
show, which is very dark and grim.
Superman was always bright and colorful and cheerful.
It was, it was interesting. The The funny thing about this,
I don't know if you guys can see it from your perspective, 'cause
it might be a little small, but one of the things on here, the
preview stuff on here says also weird title, man.
And Superman. I don't know what that's
supposed to mean for this little like thought bubble here that
they have. So Nintendo Power rites.
Translating a comic book into a video game is very difficult.
Superman, Batman, Spawn, and others have been down the road
before with mixed results at best.
It's almost like they knew that there was a problem here.
That's not true though, there's lots of great comic book video
games. Right I.
Agree. The Genesis was fantastic.
Right? There's there's a bunch of them.
I I agree, I think I think even even they they, they reference
spawn as if like spawn some sort of like, you know, outlier and
maybe that's the one that's not bad.
You play spawn on on on Game Boy or you or you play it on the
SNES. It's not bad.
It's not great, but it's not it's, it's OK.
It's like all the other ones that are kind of like it.
So maybe it doesn't differentiate itself a ton.
Pick a 2D side scroller with some beat em up stuff that
that's good at that time. And it was.
And a lot of them are still fun today.
I think so. I don't know.
It's, it's almost like they were just trying to subdue the
expectations. Yeah.
Something in there for sure.
Yeah, I gotta, I just gotta point something out about this
animation style because it's always bothered me, OK?
And it bothered me with the connection to the Batman series,
and it bothered me when they still did it in Justice League.
Why are his eyes Superman's only pupils?
Like he's only got just black dots for eyes with a little like
but like everyone else like even in his own show have actual
eyes. Yeah, Lois Lane has eyes that
you can see him. Yeah, Yeah.
Look at those eyes. Yeah, she's got eyes and like.
Full eyes still. Out of place like look and in a
blow up version of his face he's got pupils.
Well, I mean, how else is he going to focus those heat ray
vision, right? He has.
He needs beady little eyes for beady little rays of heat.
I mean, he's got to. Keep him under control.
If you have too much eye you're it's everywhere you end up like
cyclops. Cyclops.
Yeah, it's exactly yeah. I mean.
And he sees the answer to Cyclops.
And Cyclops doesn't shoot laser eyes.
We know it's got concussive. OK, it's a concussive blast,
whatever the hell that means, but whatever the.
Punch dimension, that's what it is, yeah.
Right, so. I went down that rabbit hole
recently. X-Men 97 people watch it.
It's excellent. Yeah.
It's. Fantastic.
It's so. It's so damn good.
Don't. Jet and he's just like using his
oh to to just descend slower. I was like, that was awesome and
I never would have thought about that.
Yeah. Like and that's in the first
like 15 minutes of the whole show that happens.
Every week it's. Fantastic.
It's great. It's absolutely great.
Don't play this game for Season 2 and don't even listen to us
talk about this anymore. Just go watch that show.
Honestly, stop it right now. Go watch X-Men 97 then come
back. And then come back and then come
back and hear our hear our thoughts, because clearly we
don't land. We haven't figured out how we
feel about this game. So the other thing, the final
thing about this Nintendo Power issue that has almost nothing to
do with Superman at all is all the games that are featured in
this and why it feels like again that they they buried this game
in this issue. Because if you look at the
review section alone, you have ocarina of time, you have Turok
2, you have an NFL game, you have buck Bumble, which is
fantastic. People go play Buck Bumble,
Wipeout which I haven't played on 64 but great series.
NHL game Body Harvest Haven't played that either but supposed
to be good. Extreme, G2, Glover and even the
Gameboy colour is featured in here.
The Gameboy. Colour, like the actual review
of the hardware itself or quote UN quote, whatever.
You know, Nintendo Power reviews, if you want to call
them that, like it's, it's what you have, but with some colour.
Hey, I love the gameboy colour. Me too.
Don't get me started in the Gameboy colour.
That thing is awesome. Me too, I love that machine.
Yeah, I still have my see through purple one.
I don't know if it works. I haven't tried it in a while,
but yeah. Mine.
'S going around here too, yeah, but all those games are in this
that the the front cover of this issue is occurring enough time
that says it's the biggest issue ever and somehow Superman 64
made its way in here and and that's not a good thing.
And it got not just a cover, it really got like a four page
spread of of fluff. Yeah.
Guys, you're, you're, you're misinterpreting what they're
saying. They're saying the biggest issue
ever, Superman 64. That was the biggest issue they
had so far on the 64. So that they had, they had it
had like it had to. It was right there, plain as
day, we. Should have known all along.
What were we think? OK, so honestly, Superman 64,
I'm glad I'm in a way, I'm glad we played it 'cause I just
wanted to experience same thing that you that you were saying.
I think at the beginning Jake was like, I, I know I rented
this game, but I don't think I really played it.
You know, as a kid, I was too young to kind of be like, Oh my
God, this is a horrible game. It was just, I'm like 10 years
old. Like I don't, I don't know the
difference sometimes. I mean, I know what games I
like, but I wouldn't be able to say like, oh, this is a terrible
flying ring simulator compared to the last ring simulator that
I played. So going back and playing it,
I'm in a way I'm glad I did. So now I can say that this is
definitely one of the one of the worst.
I don't like saying that about games sometimes, but it's just
not good unfortunately. I would just watch someone play
it. I would watch a speed run
potentially or one that isn't the size of a postage stamp so
you can see the whole screen. Watch someone play it at a high
level and you'd be like, OK, this is cool, but if you try it,
you'll never be able to replicate that.
So I just advise you to not try and replicate it.
But it's just a, it's a mess. It's just a mess.
I mean, plain and simple, it's just a mess.
Unfortunately so. Hold on a SEC, you didn't talk
about probably the best part of this game, what?
It has multiplayer. Did you not play the
multiplayer? Did you try out the multiplayer
mode? I didn't play.
The. Multiplayer either I.
Didn't I know there is one but I did not.
Please, please educate. Us so there so there's it's not
just one multiplayer it's 2 multiplayer modes and I spun
enough for like 10 minutes to give it a go.
So it the first one is it's it's basically a first person shooter
battle, but you don't play as Superman.
You get to play as one of the various characters.
So you know, dark side the, the, the black got trench coat guys,
whatever, Amazo. But they don't move.
They sit in like a Charles Xavier style hover car and
you're hovering through the city and it's the lowest Polygon city
even for this game. I mean, they had to cut down the
number of objects because it's multiplayer and it's split
screen cause of course it is. And you're basically free flying
around the stage shooting a gun from your floating car at the
other player. And there's some mild power ups,
missiles and all that kind of stuff.
Oh, here it is. That's the first multiplayer
mode. Yeah, this is this is it.
It feels like almost like a Mario Party mini game.
That's what it kind of feels like to me.
What? The fuck is this but.
But there's like one texture for the building wall.
They even on some of them use the same texture for the windows
on top of the roof of the building.
It's so janky, but it's this is the one mode.
The second multiplayer mode is race.
One player goes slower, but they lay a trail of rings and the
second player has to fly through the rings to kind kind of beat
them. I'm so.
Amazed they even did this when they're so pressed for time and
so so struggling for gameplay. They added a multiplayer mode
which is which is hilarious. I mean, I guess if you have more
than one controller or you have more than two, you have to have
four player split screen and some I.
You can do two players as well. It's so puzzling though.
Like it like they had to. You don't.
Even play Superman. That's what's at the Super car
Like look why? Why what?
Oh my God that's so weird. I did not try this.
I'm look at all these rings. This makes no sense.
Just make rings. Fly through them.
Yeah, it's it's a wild, it's a wild game.
And I get why it has reputation than it does.
And I don't like this shit on games either, because there's
somebody out there who actually probably really loves this game.
Right? Like Jiggy?
Like you like it as a kid because of the sandbox part?
You, you have some nostalgia. For.
Yeah, right, right. Yeah.
Yeah, but this game sucks. It's you know what else has
rings? Star Fox 64.
That game has rings and they're fun.
And that game is fucking awesome, like one of the best
games on the console. Just just gather your rings on
that instead. Jiggy, are you?
Are you certainly disappointed that your childhood is now
crushed? No, it was never crushed because
I can acknowledge and look at this game.
Even as a kid I was like, man, going through these, that's why
I specifically told you I was like play indoor levels.
Yes, you did say that, yeah. What one thing I do think
they're more interesting, but they also either run bad or
your, your movement is so limited, which is probably the
most redeeming factor of this game is the movement.
And then you take that away. It's like, well, what do you
have left? Clunky punches.
Yeah, yeah. And, and like it's one of those
games where whether you're Superman or not, it's like this,
this quasi tank control type of thing and that it doesn't, it
doesn't make sense why he why he moves literally like a tank.
Like it doesn't, it's not tank controls like the Resident Evil
sort of ha ha, tank controls Resident Evil.
It is literally just like you can't do anything unless you
you're clunkily move around. Yeah, and barely move left and
right. Like, it's just so stupid when
he's on his feet. So like you said, you give us
space, let us fly around, and then you're OK.
Not everything needs to be amazingly looking.
Not everything needs to be like the greatest metropolis you've
ever seen. But like, for shit's sake, you
know? Yeah, I think if they gave you
just one city like like here, right.
And they just added a bit more detail, like it can still have
the fog. That's fine.
I know. Yeah, it's like all that.
But if they just had this and it was like you fly through the
city and you're saving people and like doing different,
different quest missions and things, I think it would have
been not good, but I think it would have.
Been better, yeah. I'm not.
I'm not confident it would actually be any good but it but
it. Wouldn't I liked flying in the
water and pretending I was a dolphin as a kid?
I did that a lot. Like like up and down and up and
down. And it makes the splash noise
every time you do it. Oh, that's the other thing.
OK, so the sound is not terrible at times.
The music is definitely very repetitive.
Unfortunately. The one thing I did notice is
that every once in a while, I don't know when it triggers.
This is something where it's like, you know, the sound on the
64 is sometimes pretty good. You know, the music and stuff.
It's actually one of the one of the better things that can have
more more consistently across games and stuff, in my opinion.
And every once in a while when you're flying, I'm going to turn
the sound on on this. Maybe it'll actually work.
When you're flying, you can kind of hear like the wind swoosh a
little bit. Yeah.
I was like, yeah, maybe it's the turn when you're going to
certain speed. Yeah, I was like, OK, that's
some, it's a detail. They didn't have to twin any
kind of, you know, but that's all it is.
You know, that's all it is. There's nothing else to it.
It's just very plain. This is cool.
The music ramps up a little bit. Pick up the.
Car. It's just there's only one of
them, right? There's only one it's.
Just a limited soundtrack and that's, I think that's the.
Problem. That's that's exactly, that's
it, yeah. Also when you miss, how many
rings do you have to miss before you fail?
Cause I've missed like three in a row and it didn't do anything.
It doesn't. So I I don't think it matters
how many rings you miss, but you can't miss.
Like if you skipped past and the ring was like purple or pink,
like you skipped like three rings or something.
Like say you fly just by these first three rings and you go to
the next one and it's pink, then you fail.
Oh, I see. OK.
Based on distance rather than the amount of rings you miss.
Oh, so there's ways to cheat it? And you could probably skip a
ring. I mean, it might penalize you,
you know, if you do it so many times in a row.
But. But like, if you miss one, it's
not like you lose 10 seconds of time or any of that stuff, which
I thought is what it would be. So that, I mean, maybe in the
harder difficulty, I actually don't know.
But yeah, anyways, that's that was like the the last thing I
was like, yeah, this. Yeah, like you said, the music's
not bad, but it's just it's basically two or three tracks
that replay a million times. And oh, also this part right
here, the story of the game is played through the options menu.
To understand what is going on in Superman, you have to go to
let's see, I'm gonna go back through.
When I went to option series, I think I was looking for the
controls, maybe by accident or not by accident but for like.
Story and controls. Story and controls is somehow
one together, why I don't know. And also both like the story is
in the options menu because when the game starts, all you get is
Lex standing there with Lois and whoever else is trapped.
Yeah, ha ha ha. Escape my maze.
You hear that? Last like my maze like.
OK, no, you will be. Amazed.
Oh yeah, we keep, we keep forgetting.
We keep. Where is I don't have that
beginning somewhere. Solve my maze.
Like, no, I'm not going to solve your maze.
Anyways. If you really want to know what
the story is, they're like two screens of text.
You have to go into the options menu.
That's essential. That's and then it tells you
what the controls are, which are like A and the joystick like
press. C.
And press B to fly. Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that's all done. So dumb to.
Use your power ups. So dumb.
Yeah, 'cause that's in the comics, Superman has to pick up
badges before he can use his breath And, and he can that's,
that's Canon, really. It activates.
Breathe before he can just breathe.
Yeah. All right, everybody.
Superman 64 is not good. Probably not surprised by that.
But wait, wait, wait. Come on.
We got to sell this here because I I think it's so bad.
You can find some entertainment in this.
Hey man, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah, get, let's get, get some
buddies, do the multiplayer. That was phenomenal.
Can. You imagine inviting some
friends over. Ever paid attention to that you?
Wanna play some Maria? Party some Goldeneye?
No, no, no. We're gonna play some Superman
64. Guys cover car off.
Yeah, it's, it's it's retro multiplayer night, boys.
Let's go. Get your rubble packs in.
Is IT support rumble Pack? It does, yeah.
And you? Have to like pop the card, the
memory cartridge to pump in the the the rumble pack and it
prompts you every time you want to say.
It every time. Yeah, that's wild.
Yeah, the fact that I even used space on my memory card for this
game was surprising. I'm not selling it.
Sorry, Jiggy. I'm not doing it, man.
It's not good. It's not Go.
Play it, it's great. OK, all right, You know what
everyone can it's it's also the best animation in this whole
game. Is the is the save screen where
you like it's the it's the brightest, most saturated, sort
of like that's the best view. Yeah.
Just his chest. Just his giant muscly chest.
I. Like these little Daily Planet
like news? Yeah.
Online like 90s web. I thought they were
interactable. I was like, there's a, there's a
cursor there. Can I move?
I can't. I wish you good.
No, I don't know. Maybe give.
Maybe it would give you a story. Maybe it would give you more
information or controls instead of having to press pause and do
story and controls. I don't know.
All right, we're all on the same page aside from Jiggy.
Never mind, two of us are on the same page, but go play it.
Go play it. All right?
All right. Some games are so bad they're
good but this is just bad. I mean you should play at this
to see how bad it is, but. Go play the sandbox, fly around,
pick up a car. Yeah.
That's all you need to do. Yeah, that's all you.
Need. That's all I'm asking.
I'm not saying play through the story, I'm just saying.
Yeah, OK, fair enough. Yeah, yeah.
Don't do that to yourself, people.
Please, please be. A dolphin live as a dolphin, not
just Superman. You're super dolphin.
Super Dolphin. Super Dolphin 64.
You heard it here first. All right, Jake, before we let
you out of here, where can everybody find your awesome
stuff online? Man, you got a great show going
on that I was on a couple months ago.
I think it was a. February, Yeah, Yeah.
February. We talked about Best Sense 64
Games. I don't know.
Yeah. Well, I know.
Yeah, we talked about Best Sense 64 Games.
So, yeah. You can find my podcast, press
me to cancel. You can watch us over on YouTube
or Twitch. We live stream on Fridays at
8:30 PM Eastern, or you can listen to the audio episodes
wherever you listen to podcasts on the following Monday.
So yeah, we've been doing it for about four years.
And it's it's similar to what yourself do here, retro games,
although we don't confide ourselves to bad ones like this,
although we we do talk about bad ones occasionally.
I will say that that 64 episode was much more not contentious or
or or anything like in a bad way, but like some of the titles
that came up. I was like, how is are any of
you saying that this is not the game that should win this head
to head? Like it was just I was blown
away sometime. I know we both were in some
ways, but it was like, come on boys, I don't understand.
Why nobody picked Turok with me? Turok is a solid game.
Nobody. Nobody backed me up on Turok.
I was kind of. Upset.
What was the? Game upset about it.
That was the secret one you pulled out, right?
Yes, Yeah, yeah. What was up against though?
That's why I don't remember what it was.
It was. Mario 64 or Banjo or or Turok
and and nobody went with Turok and kind of shocked, I don't
know. Yeah, well, between those three,
between those three, I'm I'm, you know, the banjo guy, but
Turok's not a bad game. It's not definitely not
something I'm going to I'm going to bad mouth.
Not not at all. Not at all.
So listen to that hilarity and the best in 64 games, narrowing
them down from how many do we have like 12 or 10 or something.
It was a decent amount. I.
Think we did. I think we did 10 for that one,
yeah. We were trying to keep it under
under two hours this time. So I think we kept it there
doing it. Did it tough.
Yeah. Well, it's, it's a big round
table. So it was, it was interesting.
It was fun. Brett, press B to cancel find on
your podcast feed. And Jiggy, what about you, man?
What's what's happened over the last little while?
Oh man, just put out a defending Starfox Adventures video that
was a lot of fun. It's doing pretty well.
Channels growing, ever growing. Did you look back on YouTube?
Because I always forget to say that.
Yeah, got some some cool things cooking.
I'm starting to get people reaching out and asking for
reviews on stuff on products and games and things like that,
which is really cool. So I'll be doing some more of
that, kind of expanding what I do on my channel a little bit,
but not detracting from what I'm doing, just in addition to what
I'm doing. So yeah, it's a lot of fun.
If you like Rareware Nintendo 64, I make kind of theory videos
and deep. Deep dives I would say.
Deep dives and all. Yeah, all sorts of stuff.
I've, I kind of. You ever think about the fish
food from Jet Force Gemini? Well, I have a reason why they
put the fish food in there. OK, even they didn't have a
reason. I created a reason but I backed
it up with points. Well, that that's the thing
that's not just shooting the shit for the hell.
Like if there's there's research involved, everybody research
involved, the science, the science is real.
Yeah, yeah, watch my backpack video.
Oh, that's, that's a. That's a gem.
Math was involved in anything I did related to Banjo Kazooie is
hilarious. That's why it's worth a watch,
man. That's why it's worth a watch.
Check that out, Jiggy. Look back on YouTube.
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Why would you be a jerk? I don't.
Yeah. Yeah, just yeah.
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That's it. Everybody don't play Superman 64
unless you're jiggy. We'll talk to you next time.
Thanks very much. I believe they say the world
wide webs. Oh, that's what it is.
It's kibbity toilet web now or something.
It's a what?