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My name is David Petrangelo and 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,000 I am #3 of Mumbo Jumbo's number 5 in this Banjo Kazooie 19 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,440 franchise. Also #4 in here as well. 20 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,520 We got lots to talk about. We're talking about the Game Boy 21 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Advance and the two Banjo Kazooie games that came out for 22 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,040 that. We'll get to that in just a 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,560 moment. Jiggy, look back. 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,320 How are you buddy? I'm fantastic. 25 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:43,880 I'm happy to be a part of this episode of Remember GBA. 26 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Let's do it. I once again, once again I 27 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,640 messed it up. Once again I messed it up. 28 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,040 Thank you for correcting me. That's pretty much what it is. 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,560 We have two people joining us for this. 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,560 We have two games and two people joining us. 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,320 So Josh from Still Loading podcast is here. 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Josh, welcome back buddy. We just chatted a little while 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,200 ago. Yeah, you can't get rid of me. 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Doesn't matter how much your listeners throw fits about. 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,600 They hate me. I'm back again. 36 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,240 Well, well, we want you back, OK, And that's. 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,320 What? I've actually never read 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,360 anything, I'm just assuming. No, no, it's all love buddy, 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,840 it's all love and first time joining the show Thrac from the 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,840 3D O experiences with us. How are you? 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Hi. Hi. 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,680 I'm great. Thanks. 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Thanks for having me on this podcast about a console that I 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,720 hate. It's great. 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,800 No problem. That's why we're talking GBA. 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,160 Yeah, yeah. A console that I love, that I 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,600 love I'm. I'm just kidding. 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,440 I don't hate this N64. I just think it's funny to make 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,600 jokes about it. Hey. 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,120 You can joke all you want, it's all good. 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,960 Hey hey, I defend the Sega Saturn so I I defend the Sega 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,640 Sat. I know the 3D O sucks but. 53 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:53,400 It's fucking interesting. OK, but like, hey, I defend like 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,800 the Sega Saturn and all that so. That's that's that's one of 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,280 those consoles I have like next to 0 experience. 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,000 That and 3D O are probably actually 2. 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,440 And we were talking about this in the before we started hitting 58 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,680 record for the episode that the 3D O and the Virtual Boy are 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,080 probably the three things I've probably had less than 10 60 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,480 minutes on in my entire life, maybe collectively so. 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,320 Well, you come come on my show and and we'll get you a 3D OD 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,560 up. I want to, dude, I want to. 63 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,880 I will play I, and it's the same thing with this show. 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,800 If it's something I've never heard of, never played, Even 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,000 more interested. Even more interested, honestly, 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,840 before we get into talking about Banjo Kazooie, Grunty's Revenge 67 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,120 and Banjo pilot on the Game Boy Advance, Thrac, I just want to 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,320 ask you, I guess we can kind of all kind of go around around the 69 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,960 the table here. But Thrac, I want to start with 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,600 you first because just briefly and you can joke, you can make 71 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,880 fun of you can cut into whatever you want your experience with 72 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,960 the N64. And then we can all kind of riff 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,800 a little bit on our experience of the GBA since that's pretty 74 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,920 much what we're covering in this episode. 75 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:05,400 So Thrac, what's coming into the into this year as of as of us 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,240 sitting here and stuff, What's what's been your experience with 77 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,520 the 64? Did you have it growing up? 78 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Was it later? All that kind of stuff. 79 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,880 So my experience with the N64 starts many, many, many years 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,800 ago. So growing up, I had an NES in 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,560 the second Genesis. That's what I played, right? 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,000 And then a while after that, early 2000s, I got a GameCube 83 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,560 and I still have that GameCube that that's the console I grew 84 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,400 up on, played a bunch. And then around the time I got 85 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,960 into like high school, like late middle school or high school, I 86 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,360 was watching a lot of say, Angry Video Game Nerd and other gaming 87 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,840 content on YouTube. So I was learning about gaming 88 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:47,640 history and, you know, the N64 and Super Nintendo completely 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,320 passed me by and and I was starting to get some money at 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,960 the time. So I was like, oh, there's a 91 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,560 little game store behind by me. Let me go check it out. 92 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,560 And I went in and they had a Nintendo 64 and I was like, I 93 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:00,880 want it, I want to play that one. 94 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,000 I want to see what the big deal is. 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,800 I think I paid 40 bucks for it. This was back when BB game 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,160 collecting was cheap. So I got it in six. 97 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Yeah, exactly. So yeah. 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,640 This was about yeah, 2008, 2009. I bought it in 64 and bought 99 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,520 quite a few games for it. Like I got Mario, I got 100 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,080 Goldeneye, I got all the wrestling games. 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,480 I'm a big wrestling guy. Indiana Jones and the Infernal 102 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,360 Machine. I had that complete inbox. 103 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,360 I paid like 20 bucks for it. Crazy. 104 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Yeah. And, and a handful of other just 105 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,080 kind of ran. I had the Blues Brothers game, 106 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,800 which I actually don't hate. And so I, I remember I, I played 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,800 it quite a bit and I even, I even tried buying Superman 64, 108 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,160 but my console wouldn't play it. It just wouldn't play the thing. 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:52,240 So I was spared Superman 64 and it was so weird because when I 110 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,040 bought it, it wouldn't work in my N64. 111 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,200 I took it back to the store, they popped in their N64 and it 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,520 worked and I took it back. Still didn't work. 113 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,280 Interesting. You were determined. 114 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,080 You were determined, and yet. I wanted, I wanted to know how 115 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,840 bad it was. I, I still haven't actually 116 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:10,600 really played that game, but so I played the N64 for quite a 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,200 while, played a bunch of games on it and just the more I went, 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,320 I was just like, it's a fine console, but I don't get what 119 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,640 the big deal is. You know, there's some good 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,880 games on it, you know, some great games, But I, I always 121 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,600 found myself going back to say my GameCube or my 360 or even my 122 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Game Boy Advance. You know, those are more 123 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,800 interesting consoles for me. So I eventually got rid of all 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,960 of it. And so, you know, in the last 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,840 few years, getting into this like podcasting sphere that 126 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,760 we're all in, hearing all this stuff about people like in the 127 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,640 N64 has always made me go like, I mean, it was good, but I don't 128 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,000 think it was like that great. But, you know, there's, there's 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,760 definitely good stuff there, you know, but. 130 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:51,280 Everyone's got their own thing that that sticks with them. 131 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:53,360 Like for me it was the Super Nintendo, like you say. 132 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,360 Oh, I still have my Game Cube. I still have my original SNES. 133 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,320 And I and I had AI had a Super Nintendo for a while as well. 134 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,480 It's actually the and it's the only time I've beaten Super 135 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,640 Mario World was on the Super Nintendo, Yeah. 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:11,240 The GBA version's really good. All, all those GBA versions are 137 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,920 are are great. Oh yeah, that's. 138 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Right. I'm more of a I'm more of. 139 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,440 A. I'm more of a Mario Three guy, 140 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,360 so I've beaten every version of Mario Three that there is. 141 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Yeah, I just said accept the music on the GBA version. 142 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,720 Music on it is a little rough for Super Mario World compared 143 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,160 to the. For Super Mario World, yeah, I 144 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,640 like, I like the Mario 3 soundtrack on there, though. 145 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,200 Oh. OK, I got to hear the 146 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,120 difference. It's been a while. 147 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,360 It's a different style, yeah, but the Mario 3 soundtrack is 148 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,480 amazing, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 149 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,480 So I mean, do you want me to segue into? 150 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,440 The the GBA. Well, I was gonna say I I was 151 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,680 gonna just hop in myself for a second and just say the GB AI 152 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,320 have this behind me over here there we go I got my direction 153 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,000 still there we go that's my original GBA still that still 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,200 works the lights on the on it is not great. 155 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,400 That's the only thing that doesn't really work is the fact 156 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,840 that it's really getting very dim. 157 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,880 Was it? Was it ESP or the original? 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,800 No, the original, it's a silver. Oh, I mean it's not backlit so 159 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,040 that. Also, it's not backlit no, but 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,840 it's still like darker than it was. 161 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,000 You know what I mean? So like there's there's like a a 162 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,520 difference there. So, but it still works. 163 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,160 The the cartridges I still have still work. 164 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,120 If I'm gonna play a Game Boy Color game, I put it in that. 165 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,680 I played Banjo Pilot on that this week because I have woo a 166 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,679 boxed. It's actually in really good 167 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,480 shape. I at the time I was like oh I 168 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,600 don't know if I want to pay that much for this thing but like 169 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,840 it's actually really hard to find and it's quote UN quote 170 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,000 gone up in value in the last like 3 years since I've got it. 171 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,400 They all have I. Don't know what the fuck that 172 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,360 means anymore, but. More people want it, so it's 173 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,640 just cost more money, that's all. 174 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,200 But yeah, and I love my GB AI. It's been great. 175 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,840 I love going back and playing so many of the games that I, I grew 176 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,440 up with playing and stuff that like a lot of people are very, 177 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,880 very attached to, like the Switch experience and, and that 178 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,760 being their sort of mobile gaming and stuff. 179 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Partially because of age, partially because of nostalgia. 180 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,000 The GBA is the first thing I think of when I think of any 181 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,440 kind of handheld gaming of any at any time. 182 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,800 It's that specific one. I never had an SP had a friend 183 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,840 who did, but so I don't really have any experience really 184 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,760 playing it other than like sharing his. 185 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,920 But I do know that when I, you know, when I've played ones 186 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,080 since then as as an adult, I don't like the form factor on 187 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,320 it. So I think the form factor, the 188 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,680 GBA itself works for even slightly larger hands. 189 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,840 I I think because it's not just a square essentially. 190 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,200 So I don't know. I love my GBA. 191 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Oh, if you hate the SP form factor, what do you see the Game 192 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Boy micro? Oh my God, that thing is so. 193 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,320 That's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous idea. 194 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,720 Ridiculous idea. I I kind of defend it, but I can 195 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,240 get to that later. That's just, that's just my I 196 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,800 don't know, I get it. I don't want to strain my eyes 197 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,400 more than I have to, you know? That's fair. 198 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,640 Yeah. Jiggy, what about you, buddy? 199 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,800 Cause we've talked a lot about, you know, through episodes, 200 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240 obviously the 64, but we've talked about your experience 201 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,240 with Dreamcast and PlayStation and obviously Switch and stuff 202 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,320 too. But like you're, you know, did 203 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,080 you, do you have AGBA? Did you, What's the deal with 204 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,640 that for you? Oh, absolutely. 205 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,360 I had a let me go back, OK? I had a Game Boy Pocket first. 206 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,320 I had a red Game Boy Pocket. I never got the first generation 207 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,560 of Game Boy. I was a little too young for 208 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,160 that, Yeah. I had a red all of them. 209 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,280 It's ridiculous. Didn't I have that? 210 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,280 I had a red Game Boy Pocket with Pokémon Blue, and that was epic. 211 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,040 And then I upgraded to the purple Game Boy Color. 212 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,840 That was the atomic purple translucent. 213 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,320 Yeah. And then I got the translucent 214 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,640 light blue Game Boy Advance, which I think it's somewhere in 215 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,160 a box here. I don't have it on display 216 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,160 because it's broken. It does not work anymore 217 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,960 unfortunately. I do have my SP sitting on the 218 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,720 shelf back here at a blue SP Sort of similar story. 219 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,440 The reason why my old Game Boy Advance doesn't work is because 220 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,360 hand me downs to little brothers and little brothers destroy 221 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,920 everything. He destroyed the DS. 222 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,560 He just shout out to my brother. Thank you. 223 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,320 Thank you for ruining my value. I do have a really cool, I 224 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,120 bought this from a guy who had it custom built or whatever, or 225 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,640 it's just like a IPS screen. Well, he bought it for himself 226 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:26,880 and I was just like, sure, I'll buy it from you when he wanted 227 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,760 to get rid of it. So it's pretty cool, Really nice 228 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,640 looking screen. Love reliving some of the GBA 229 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,560 classics on it. But yeah, I this convenient 230 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,680 silver case here. I did not treat my Game Boy 231 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:41,800 games well, and to this day I still do not treat them well. 232 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,280 So you're not gonna see any good complete Inbox copies. 233 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,160 And this is how I stored all my Game Boy games. 234 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,640 And this is not all of them. Some of them my brother has. 235 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,520 For anyone who's not seeing this, it's just he's opening a 236 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,000 briefcase as if it's a stack of cash from the fucking Sopranos 237 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,280 or something. I was gonna say that. 238 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,120 No, that, that's the that's the briefcase from Pulp Fiction or 239 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:01,560 Pulp. Fiction. 240 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,880 The one that Travolta opens and the light shines, it's 'cause he 241 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,520 was seeing that value of Game Boy games. 242 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Oh yeah, with cheese in here. That's a lot of games, too. 243 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,080 That thing's got some depth to it, that box. 244 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Oh yeah, it's stacked. And there's some games like 245 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,880 floating around, like on the back. 246 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,480 Shelf and stuff to you. So nice. 247 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,680 They're hard. They are hard to store. 248 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:25,320 It's it's a, it's a problem. Yeah. 249 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,760 A. 100%, especially the GBA ones, they're so they're so 250 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,640 tiny. Like, yeah, like I before the 251 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,720 switch was an issue, it was this, you know for sure. 252 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,960 Josh, let's go to you buddy. What's the What's the GBA 253 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,080 experience for you? Sure. 254 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,760 So I didn't have much of an experience back when it was a 255 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,320 contemporary. When it, when it was 256 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,040 contemporary, excuse me, the GBA was a weird one for me because 257 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,480 I, I don't think this perception is correct, but my perception of 258 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,960 it growing up was that it was kind of the handheld that people 259 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,600 forgot about because the Game Boy was huge and right. 260 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,160 And then what was it? The GBA came out in 2001 and 261 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,560 then three years later the DS was out. 262 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:13,160 So like you have this very short span of time that the GBA was a 263 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,960 thing, relatively speaking. And if you think about it, 264 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,080 because what was it? The 3DS came out what, 2000 and 265 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,520 2011? 2011, So you had so there. 266 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,520 That's a seven-year gap between the DS and 3DS. 267 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,160 The original Game Boy if you count the Game Boy Color and 268 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,240 Pocket in the different iterations, even though the 269 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,720 color is a little bit of a step up from the original. 270 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,480 Either way, came out in 89 and you're looking at it like a 12 271 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,720 year gap between the original Game Boy and it's technically 272 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,400 it's full on successor, not the half step which was the GB. 273 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,600 Which was the color. So it's the Game Boy Advance to 274 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,640 me always felt like the handheld that people just for that time 275 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,680 forgot, right? That people just don't remember. 276 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,560 When you look at it on a calendar like that, it 277 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:00,440 completely makes sense. Like, I get what you mean, yeah. 278 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Because by the time I like I, I was aware of it. 279 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,400 I had friends that had it, I had friends that play had like the 280 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,120 Final Fantasy Origins collection that you could get for it. 281 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,720 Yeah, what? Donna Souls 1 and 2. 282 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,480 Yep, Donna Souls and they also obviously Golden Sun which shout 283 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,320 out to later on this year. I have to cover that game for my 284 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,480 backlog month. So there you go, I've been. 285 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,560 Playing through gold, the first Golden Sun game. 286 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Thank God for. I mean, I actually do have the 287 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,040 original Game Boy Advance copy of it, but I'm playing it on the 288 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Switch, so that way I can it's a little, it's backlit and I can 289 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,440 put headphones in because I only have an SP. 290 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,960 So the SP does not have a headphone Jack. 291 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Yeah, dumb. Feature that is so stupid, so 292 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,240 stupid it's even at that time. Considering when it came out, 293 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,320 yeah. And just since Jiggy had a 294 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,360 visual prop, I It's not a Game Boy Advance game. 295 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,280 I wish I had one within reach. I have a Game Boy Color game 296 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,560 made by a buddy of mine that keep it came. 297 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Out amazing that. Looks that looks really cool. 298 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,360 Bobo Escape for the Game Boy Color. 299 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,520 Shout out to my buddy Gabe Swore who made this game. 300 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,400 Nice. Is that like a puzzle game? 301 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:11,280 Yeah, it's like a it's like a puzzle, that platformer. 302 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,320 It's basically you play as this little cannon named Bobo. 303 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,320 He shoots bubbles. The puzzle of it is that he is 304 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,000 always, he, he is always shooting no matter what. 305 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,280 And you only have a certain number of bubbles in each level. 306 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,800 So you have to look at the level and then figure out where to 307 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,840 move bubbles. So that way when did the when 308 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,680 the shot comes next? Because it it comes on at a the 309 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,600 same rhythm, same interval every single, you know, every second 310 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,880 or so. Then you have to take out the 311 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,280 full enemy. It's actually really it's really 312 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,320 fun. It's almost like an actual tiger 313 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,600 in a way. That's kind of cool. 314 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Yeah, I'm looking at it. It's it's on itch dot IO and 315 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,920 it's 5 bucks. Oh shit. 316 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,520 Beauty. Yeah. 317 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,400 James, a good dude, he's been on, he's been on my podcast 318 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,600 before, Really nice guy. He also, just to give him some 319 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,440 more cred that he he already shipped a game, which is cool, 320 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,360 but he was the executive producer of the Animaniacs 321 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,360 reboot that came out on Hulu a couple years ago. 322 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Nice. Yeah, anything Animaniacs I. 323 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Completely forgot about that. I watched it. 324 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,160 It's actually really good. It is good. 325 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,880 I'm digressing. So I just figured I'd share that 326 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,200 as a visual prop. Also give my buddy Gabe some 327 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,120 much needed love. He actually had another game in 328 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,680 the Bobo series come out called Oh my gosh, I'm I'm blanking on 329 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,800 the name. I'll look it up while I'm 330 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,800 finishing my story of the GBA. But yeah, so my experience with 331 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,880 the GBA was pretty much non existent and it's Bobo Burst 332 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,920 that is the newest scheme that just came out just earlier this 333 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,160 year anyway. So yeah, the GB AI didn't really 334 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,240 have too much of and in general, handhelds for me have been a 335 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,240 blind spot until the last like four or five years. 336 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Like I owned a lot. I owned a Game Boy Advance. 337 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Not none of it was actually contemporary. 338 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,680 I always bought them used well after they were released. 339 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Right. Game Boy I got after its life 340 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,040 cycle is over. GBA. 341 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,160 Same thing the DSI got during its life cycle, but I never 342 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,720 fucking played it until after its life cycle. 343 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,440 The only handheld that I actually played during their 344 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,880 actual life cycle were the Vita and the 3DS, and even then I 345 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,599 barely touched it and it wasn't until I started podcasting that 346 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:25,000 I really sat down. I'm like, OK, let me dive into 347 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,280 this. And I've been enjoying it ever 348 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,720 since. So the GB AII when you said 349 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,680 like, hey, we're looking for guests to talk about GBA game. 350 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,280 I'm like, that is one of the consoles I've played the least. 351 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,160 So I will look for any excuse to dive in and try out some new 352 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,920 things. Though I guess full Full 353 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,240 disclosure, I did not play any Banjo pilot mean because I 354 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,000 didn't have time and honestly I'm not a cart racing fan so I 355 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,320 will I will keep my opinions a little bit lower on that one. 356 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,320 I have lots to say though, about Grunty's Revenge, which we'll 357 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,960 get to Nice. It's not a racing game, it's a 358 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,720 flying game. Yeah, it's, it's not a cart 359 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,360 game, it's a plane game. Yeah, cart games are for babies. 360 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,760 This is the. Same how? 361 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,840 This is a cart in the sky. And somehow your plane still 362 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,080 goes slower over grass. I was going to say that. 363 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,440 Really long grass, OK, really long grass it. 364 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,320 And there's a turbulence on this grass here. 365 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Calling someone to cut your grass in this economy? 366 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,680 Come on. Can I ask the price of grass? 367 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,160 Can I ask what has everyone given their GBA history? 368 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,040 Thrac has not. Thrac has not yet. 369 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Thrac has not. OK, can I add just what are some 370 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,840 of your favorite games? Josh, before we move forward, 371 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,960 I'd love to hear everyone's favorite, like if you have like 372 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,480 a top GBA game, if you have one that you just like. 373 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,600 I love this. Typically. 374 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Do you have any? Barely client on these. 375 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Yeah, I. Barely put. 376 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,040 I can't even say what my favorite would be. 377 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,440 So Banjo's grunty's revenge? Grunty's Revenge. 378 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Out of the ones I've beaten, yes, because it's the only one I 379 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,160 think I've fully beaten. Right. 380 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,160 Yeah, well, happy to help, man. Happy to help. 381 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,600 That's the title of this episode, Josh's favorite GBA 382 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,240 game. Yeah. 383 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,760 I fucking hate grass it's so coarse and turbulency. 384 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,400 Turbulent turbulency I like gets everywhere. 385 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,360 It gets everywhere. It gets everywhere. 386 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,960 All these things clipping. Thrack, let's let's go to you 387 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,000 then let's let's talk about your experience and then those like 388 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,760 games that might be your. Favorite so so I fucking love 389 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,960 the Game Boy Advance. I'm a big GBA guy. 390 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:39,480 I got AGBA again early 2000s when it was new 'cause back back 391 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,560 when I was growing up, there was this kid who always used to, so 392 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,440 my mom would like babysit for like random kids. 393 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,080 So there's always like a group of us hanging out. 394 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,640 And one of them, she brought her like original GBA and she had 395 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,000 like Mario Advance and I think there was some like Tom and 396 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,600 Jerry game, The Infernal Escape. We played those a bunch and I 397 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,040 was like, this Game Boy Advance thing's pretty fucking cool 398 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,800 'cause I had a Game Boy, I had a Game Boy Pocket, I had like 399 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,880 Tetris plus Kirby's Dreamland 2 Solar Striker. 400 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,800 So I had Pokémon Red, but I've never really been a big Pokémon 401 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,280 guy. So even though I I played Red a 402 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,080 bunch, it just never made me like a Pokémon guy. 403 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,200 But so I had the pocket, I still have my yellow Game Boy pocket 404 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,840 around here somewhere. And then I got a GB ASP with, I 405 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,600 know I got Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories and there's like an 406 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,160 Incredible Hulk game and some other stuff. 407 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,280 And I played the shit out of that GBA and so much that when 408 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,360 the DS came out I was pissed. I was like, how dare you 409 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:42,880 Nintendo, drop my favorite handheld for this new bullshit 410 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,560 thing. Exactly. 411 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,920 That was just a kid. So I never got ADS until many 412 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,000 years later out of protest. I was one of the only people I 413 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,520 think, in the world that never had ADS. 414 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,160 Ever. I have never. 415 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,560 I really, I eventually got one. I eventually got one many years 416 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,120 later and messed around with it and it's really fun, yeah. 417 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,320 I did 3DS a few years after it came out, but I never had a DS. 418 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,160 Yeah. Well you can play DS games on 419 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,840 the 3DS so and if you homebrew your 3DS you can just load DS 420 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,200 games on an SD card and which is what I do but but yeah. 421 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,080 But The thing is they were still making GBA games well past the 422 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,880 DS launch. Like even up to like I think it 423 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,040 was like 2008 they were still making GBA games like Minish Cap 424 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,720 came out like when the DS was a thing. 425 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,840 So because Nintendo was smart dropping the DS as early as it 426 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,360 did because had the DS flopped, they could have sold it as AGBA 427 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,840 because it had the GBA slot and could have kept supporting the 428 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,200 GBA. So really it was like they were 429 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,720 in a no lose situation. So that helped. 430 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,280 But quite a few years ago I started collecting for the GBA. 431 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,560 So there's like these three tubs here that are basically full of 432 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,240 GBA games. There's like hundreds of them in 433 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,440 there. Like I have I have some complete 434 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,320 inbox. I have some with the the the 435 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,640 retro game cases. If you guys have seen that for 436 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,000 like handheld games, those are really cool. 437 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,360 And also I have every model of the Game Boy Advance. 438 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:07,840 So we'll we'll do some visuals. Hey. 439 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Yeah, that's what I have. Yeah, yeah, it, it's still, I 440 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,640 believe it still works. Let me turn the thing on. 441 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,400 Yeah, it's. It still works. 442 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,320 The beautiful color of the. Screen console but the screen 443 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,200 like we put up with this. Yeah, it's so dark. 444 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,000 People need to talk about this because versus even the gay boy 445 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,560 color, it was darker. Darker, yeah. 446 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,840 It was hard, like you'd hold it against the light. 447 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120 And that's why so many early games have like a really washed 448 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:40,280 out color palette so you could see them, but they did the the 449 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,600 SP This is the SP001. Mine is dead at the moment. 450 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,720 I just need to charge it. So there are two different 451 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,800 versions of the SP. There's the the 001 AGS and then 452 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,040 there's this one which is the AGS one O 1, which is a so. 453 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,320 So basically what it is is the O 1 is a front lit screen and the 454 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,920 one O 1 is a back lit screen. So the. 455 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,720 Front lit. That's right. 456 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,160 Basically the way to describe it, it's like the square is like 457 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,680 a light ring. It's like they built a worm 458 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000 light into it so you could see it and it's it's perfect. 459 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840 Like along the frame like a. Yeah, yeah. 460 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,000 And it and it works. It's not amazing but it works 461 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,520 and you can get these for like pretty cheap. 462 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Even the original models you can get for pretty cheap and mod 463 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,680 them but the one O ones have like a complete backup screen. 464 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Mine actually is still working. You can see even through the 465 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,960 camera. That looks nice. 466 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,680 Yeah. Oh, it just died immediately, 467 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,200 these things. Do, but even just the Game Boy 468 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Woo. Well they don't hold charges 469 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,280 anymore. I bought like a new battery for 470 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,360 this. It's still as a whole charge, 471 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,160 but yeah. So the one O 1 is pretty good. 472 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,760 I see why people don't care for the form factor, but I'm used to 473 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,360 it and I have kind of tiny hands, so it's fine. 474 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,280 And Speaking of tiny hands, I do have a Game Boy micro. 475 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,880 Don't ask how, don't ask what I paid for this too much money. 476 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,880 But honestly, like it. It is small, but the screen is 477 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,200 really nice. Like it's small, but it's like 478 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,480 the brightness and the definition is really good. 479 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,560 You can, it has like 10 different levels of adjustment, 480 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,800 adjustment. And if you have tiny, Yeah. 481 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,040 And if you have tiny hands like me, it goes for the OG form 482 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,640 factor. And it's actually not terrible. 483 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,200 I've messed around with it enough and it's mine doesn't 484 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,120 work any. The R button is broken so. 485 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,840 Does it have a headphone Jack? Yes, it does. 486 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,360 What? A What a great. 487 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,560 Idea. You can't play Game Boy or Game 488 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520 Boy Color games on this guy. You can only play advanced. 489 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,240 But I mean if you see if you have to see how small this thing 490 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,480 is to to. It's so. 491 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,280 It's. So I do have Agba cart with me, 492 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,640 not to show off, but it's a Oreo Sorrow, one of my favorite 493 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,280 Castlevania games. And yeah, like that's the size 494 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,960 of it compared to the console. Exactly. 495 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:58,400 It's the size of two games. Yeah, basically, in fact, In 496 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,480 fact, that guy was sitting in this little guy, the GB Operator 497 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,120 by Epilogue, which is basically a little epilogue epilogue. 498 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,840 So basically it's a little Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy 499 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Advance thing that you can just plug it into your PC via USB and 500 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,080 you can just play games, Game Boy games on your computer. 501 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,800 You can like backup saves, download saves. 502 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,880 It even can check to see if your games are like, you know, fake 503 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,920 or not, which is really cool. In fact, I have a fake GBA game 504 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,720 right here, Doom, Doom 'cause I, yeah, though I did get my money 505 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,160 back on it. The guy was nice about it 'cause 506 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,160 I, I've learned how to detect fakes. 507 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,240 But yeah, there's that. And then also I have an analog 508 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:50,080 pocket, so and that's, that's a nice way to play them as well. 509 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040 Like people usually complain about how shallow the cartridge 510 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,040 slot is, and it is, but for GBA games, it's not too bad. 511 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,400 I mean, it's so small, but like if you put something else in 512 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,760 there, it'll be a little iffy. Like like I have the Game Gear 513 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,600 adapter 'cause I'm also a game Gear collector. 514 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,760 That's another story. Yeah, I'm trying to get all the 515 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,720 game gear, the Game Gear library. 516 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,560 I'm like 42%. Is the game? 517 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Is the Game Gear library made-up of 17,000 batteries or is it 518 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,120 actually games? Well, I play it on this guy just 519 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,400 because my Game Gear quit out on me. 520 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,000 But yeah, yeah, the Game Gear's a whole nother thing, but. 521 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,480 There's a has the most half, yeah. 522 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,640 But there's a lot of really cool Game Gear games, so bring me 523 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,720 back on. We talk Game Gear. 524 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,160 I don't F man forget we get get some Sega crossovers there we. 525 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,840 Go, but I also have the e-reader for the GBA. 526 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,200 Oh, I had a buddy. Out of those. 527 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,080 Yeah, and I and I have a set, I have a set of the Mario Advance 528 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,080 for Mario 3 cards. And I've done the thing where 529 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,640 you put this guy in the in the SP, you put the game in the 530 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,120 other SP, you link cable to them, you swipe the card. 531 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,800 Really stupid, but I did it just to make myself happy. 532 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,960 So so on my gravestone it'll say I did the thing. 533 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,320 And then I also have the the little wireless adapter thing. 534 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,480 Yeah I found one for like 5 bucks so I've been meaning to 535 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,520 get the. Never owned, but I've like used 536 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,040 at some point because of a friend. 537 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,760 So it's like kind of cool. It's like a little trip down 538 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,120 memory lane. I'll be like, Oh yeah, I 539 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:21,200 remember that. Yeah. 540 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,760 And So what I want to do it, and what I want to do at some point 541 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,400 is find a way to display all the GBA models just to be like a 542 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,680 three. D Printed, sort of like little 543 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,280 shelf or whatever, yeah. But yeah, favorite GBA games. 544 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,320 I could go on, but Metroid Fusion, my favorite Metroid 545 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,080 game, the Advanced Wars games, Mario Advance 4. 546 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,560 Let's see, there's a game called Medal of Honor. 547 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,320 What's the medal? Infiltrator. 548 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,120 Yes, that game is really fucking cool. 549 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,760 Final Fantasy Tactics. Which one's Mario Advance 40? 550 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760 That's Mario Brothers. That's Mario Three. 551 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,080 Yeah. I'm just, I'm just looking at my 552 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,720 game, Mother Mother Three. I do have a physical of Mother 553 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,560 3. It's funny I I forgot this might 554 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,120 be on your list, Toothrack. I did actually play one other 555 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,440 Game Boy Advance game and I feel like an idiot because I 556 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,760 literally just covered it for Mario Month this year. 557 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,680 Mario and Luigi Superstar soccer. 558 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,200 Oh. Yeah, that's a That is a great 559 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,000 game. I've beaten it. 560 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,800 I hate the final boss battle, but the rest of the game is 561 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,400 fantastic. Oh yeah, it's all. 562 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,400 If anyone is curious, you can listen to my episode. 563 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,160 I was. Pissed. 564 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,560 Yeah, yeah. Minish Cap, Golden Sun, all the 565 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,880 Final Fantasy ports are great. The Tony Hockey games are really 566 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,400 good on GBA. Yeah, I have two. 567 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,200 I think. I think I have. 568 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,080 I have Tony act two. Yeah, it's good. 569 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,960 It is. Warioland 4, one of my greatest 570 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,000 achievements the the the first two Warioware games 'cause you 571 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,240 have the original, then you have twisted, which is like the 572 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,760 weird, like they put a gyroscope in the in the cartridge so you 573 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,720 like turn it around. It's really cool. 574 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,840 I do have it all the Castlevania games for it, the Fire Emblem 575 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,440 games for it, the Sonic Advance trilogy. 576 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,240 Well, the first two Sonic Advance 3 is kind of but Astro 577 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Boy Omega factor that is a fantastic game. 578 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,720 Oh, I heard that was good. I've never. 579 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,320 It's made by treasure and it is. It's pretty fucking good. 580 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,640 I, I, I could, I could go, I could go on and on about GBA. 581 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Yeah, that was a pretty extensive list. 582 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,960 I I. And also Clinoa. 583 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240 OK, that's what I was. Waiting I have. 584 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,200 A what? A segue. 585 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Empire dreams, that's the one. Two favorite Game Boy titles 586 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,440 arguably or GBA titles are Clinoa, Empire Dreams. 587 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,040 I played that game tons, loved it. 588 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,120 I also really enjoyed Mega Man Battle Network as a series. 589 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,960 I loved 4 Red Sun in particular. I remember getting it for 590 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,480 Christmas. I just freaking loved it. 5 was 591 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,760 also very good. Wasn't super into 6 but four and 592 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,320 five were like my favorite. Yeah, I wasn't into those games. 593 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,160 I wasn't. I had to really get into Mega 594 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,280 Man till like a couple years ago, so those completely passed 595 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,720 me by. I was always more of a 596 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,280 Castlevania guy. I like him but I'm so bad. 597 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,080 At them Battle Network, if you haven't played it, it's like a 598 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,240 it's like an RPG with like a weird like. 599 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,480 That's what I heard. I. 600 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Don't even know how to describe the battle system. 601 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,320 It's it's like you move on like 6 tactical squares. 602 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,640 Is it? Turn based? 603 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,880 I don't even know if it's not turn based. 604 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,360 It's not turn based, OK. It's kind of a really weird 605 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,040 battle system, but it focuses on like chips and powering up your 606 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,600 character. And then like, it's, it's, I 607 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,000 like that Cool. It's unique. 608 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,080 It's different. Yeah, it's fun. 609 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600 The problem was they made way too many of them way too fast. 610 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,760 They made like 6 of them in like 3 years. 611 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,400 Yeah, you just like list it off. Yeah, 456 were great. 612 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,480 I was like, wait, there was a there was a 123. 613 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,920 Like what the fuck? Honestly, they could have kept 614 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,240 making them into. Like the three DFS if they 615 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,680 spaced them out correctly, right? 616 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,400 Yeah. Right. 617 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,120 They could have kept. They'd probably still be making 618 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,640 them. They are. 619 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,320 They are making them. I think they are. 620 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,160 No, they did the collection. Oh collection which? 621 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,920 The DS had #5 it had it did like basically so they made they 622 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,320 tried to do like a Pokémon thing or they did like 2 versions and 623 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,640 then the DS made the IT just skipped 6/6 was only GBA and 624 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,640 then they put 5 on DS and they made it like a double pack. 625 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,040 So it was like 1 cartridge that had both games, Team Proto man, 626 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,720 Team Colonel. And the DS version was actually 627 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,760 pretty dope, I'm not going to lie. 628 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,960 But that was like the last raw of Battle Network, yeah. 629 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,200 They're really cool doing everything mega band they could. 630 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600 Now they're like Mega Who? Who who's that? 631 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Yeah, really. I know my on that. 632 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Legends Collection. My my top ones actually two of 633 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640 them I actually really only played fairly recently or at 634 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,000 least within the last decade, which for me is recent 635 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,120 considering when I got the GBA like you said thrack when it 636 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,080 came out, that's when I had a 2 and I never owned these games 637 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,320 growing up. But Minish Cap became one of my 638 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,640 favorite Zelda games of all time when I played that it's. 639 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,640 One of my. Favorites too. 640 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,600 Yeah, it's fantastic. And that's a quintessential sort 641 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,360 of, for me anyway, GBA art style. 642 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,960 There's something special about the way that the sprites look on 643 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,000 the GBA and stuff, and that is like exactly the feel and the 644 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,920 look that I've I always think of when I think of the GBA. 645 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,720 It just captured it in such a great way in a Zelda title, 646 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,720 which is awesome. I like how I like how they took 647 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,160 the Wind Waker. Like yes. 648 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,040 Character designs and made them 2D. 649 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,480 Aesthetic. That's pretty much. 650 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,600 What I love the Wind Waker aesthetic so making it in 2D 651 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160 like perfect fit. Yeah, exactly. 652 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,640 You mentioned fusion. I actually prefer 0 mission over 653 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,320 fusion. Maybe that's just. 0 mission is 654 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,080 great yeah, I love me some 0 mission, but Fusion I I play 655 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,760 that game like once a year. It's just it's a very special 656 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,360 game for. Me, well, it's, it's great. 657 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,560 And I, I didn't play either of those until, until recently, 658 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,440 like I think I played Minish Cap, 0 Mission and Fusion all 659 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,840 probably within the same year, like about two, maybe three 660 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,360 years ago. So and 0 Mission, for some 661 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,000 reason, I don't know, whatever, just click with me better. 662 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,360 And then one of my favorite games. 663 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,520 Yeah. And then one of my favorite 664 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,760 games of all time, which I've mentioned numerous, numerous 665 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,400 times here. And I do think the Game Boy 666 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,720 Color version is better because it's simpler, but like the 667 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,280 simplification of it is almost better. 668 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,520 But that's the Mario Golf games. So Mario Golf Advance tour is 669 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,560 amazing. I think the the sort of one for 670 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Game Boy Color is just like the the the dial down just a touch 671 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,080 and that sort of hits that sweet spot in my opinion for just for 672 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,440 me. So and those those like you say 673 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,360 you, you played Fusion like every year at both Mario Golf 674 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,720 games I could pick up and. Here here here it custom game 675 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,160 cases. Sorry, I got it wrong. 676 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,240 Yeah, I I have the manual in it. It's really nice there. 677 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,920 You go, yeah. So those, those are it for me. 678 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,080 So. But but the the GBA Mario golf 679 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,920 game you can you can golf with Golden Sun characters. 680 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Golf with golden Sun characters well. 681 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360 Because Camelot made it, and they're the exact same character 682 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,960 model. They're also the same character 683 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160 models that are used in Shining Force Three 'cause they made 684 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,240 that for the. Oh, are they really? 685 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,880 Yes, it's don't let me start on shining force. 686 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,040 Not this time. There's a really good GBA remake 687 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,400 of the first game of the first Shining Force though. 688 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,040 Yeah, it's very expensive. Don't buy it. 689 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,480 I will not, don't worry, I will not. 690 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,040 That's all I had to hear. OK, let's get to 1 of the two 691 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,400 games. What are we talking about again? 692 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,520 One of the two games that we're going to be talking about. 693 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,679 Let's start with it's playing here for the last several 694 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,560 minutes since we've been talking about the GBA, let's talk about 695 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,719 Banjo Kazooie, Grunty's revenge, who wants to put their hand up 696 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,920 first for their experience if they had any previous and how it 697 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,840 went this last couple weeks for them. 698 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,080 I'm going to wait a little bit 'cause I'm very curious to see 699 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,520 what, what people thought of this. 700 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:52,159 So Josh, let's go with you buddy, because you, you said you 701 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,760 made your way all the way through it and don't have a ton 702 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,920 of GBA experience, which is a little bit of a, a, a unique 703 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,680 sort of approach. I think like when it comes to 704 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,000 these games, 'cause I just honestly, I just automatically 705 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,360 assume that people have played the GBA forever, so. 706 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,760 You know, I, I, yeah. So those, this is my first time 707 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,920 playing it. I will say I'm overall like if, 708 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,600 if, if I had to give my overall vibe to it, overall feeling to 709 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,120 it. I enjoyed my time with the game. 710 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,080 I thought overall it was a pretty fun experience. 711 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,440 It was a really good, like Dylan, not delineation, but a 712 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,200 really good porting of the Banjo Kazooie 3D Platformer 713 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,960 Collectathon to a 2D world and a 2D view viewpoint, kind of 714 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,040 isometric ish, a little bit too, a little bit, because you do 715 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,000 play with that, you do play with height a little bit with this. 716 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,720 So I thought it was a pretty good distillation. 717 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,840 That's the word I. Was looking for. 718 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,360 Big words. Like that. 719 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,880 I like that. That was, that was. 720 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,920 Today's word is distillation. Today's letter is D. 721 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,560 Installation. D baby no, it's it's a good 722 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,960 distillation of a 3D formula that we that for those who like 723 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680 the original Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tubi games, it's a pretty 724 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,320 good distillation of that. It it they honestly do a really 725 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,040 good job of taking a lot of mechanics from 3D and finding a 726 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,720 way to make them work on a 2D game pad, you know, with just AD 727 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,200 pad A&B buttons and then the bumpers and or the LNR. 728 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,800 Where it kind of falls apart is I think when they start adding 729 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,560 the different egg types because as kazoo you can get like fire 730 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,320 eggs and ice eggs and that kind of stuff. 731 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,720 And that's a little tedious, especially considering there is 732 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:41,080 a segment of the final boss where you have to cycle through 733 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,840 depending on what type of enemy you're facing determines what 734 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,840 type of eggs you need to defeat the little sub enemies. 735 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,320 And that's a pain in the butt to cycle through those in the game, 736 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,640 it's not so much of a problem because they don't make you do 737 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,040 stuff with a really intensive time limit. 738 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,440 Like these guys are bearing down on you in the in the boss fight. 739 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,720 So you don't have a lot of time. You have to cycle through 740 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,880 quickly and hope that you don't get hit just or and hope that 741 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,160 you do it fast enough or you have to stop, run away from them 742 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,440 and then just continue to cycle. And that's a bit of a pain in 743 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,760 the butt. So overall it was a good 744 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,320 distillation. Where I think it falters the 745 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,920 most is its perspective. It's 2 1/2 D isometric 746 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,720 perspective. It is God damn impossible to see 747 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,880 like height on this because of the way they designed the pixel 748 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,480 art, specifically the pixel art. Excuse me, the especially you 749 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,000 had it up on the screen a little bit ago, Dave, the underwater 750 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,400 segments, it is like there is no visual indication that you're 751 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,120 supposed to really swim through holes in the coral. 752 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640 You you figure it out like you are able to figure it out. 753 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,080 So I will give them that, but I don't think it's really well 754 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,520 broadcasted. It's not intuitive. 755 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,680 It's not intuitive. It's not. 756 00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,400 Yeah, that's the better. Yeah, It's not intuitive. 757 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,000 Distillation, intuition. There we go. 758 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,680 Yeah. So it it's not intuitive in the 759 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,280 slightest. And they also make it because of 760 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,600 that same issue with how they design the world. 761 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,080 The world on in this 2D plane, there's some jumps that you make 762 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,360 that you think you're going to make but you don't because of 763 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,000 the perspective. So it's biggest issues for me 764 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,120 were that perspective. And I don't know if you want me 765 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,440 to go off on a 20 minute rant, but I can. 766 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,200 The final boss is fucking bullshit. 767 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,800 We'll we'll get there cuz I think there's lots, there's lots 768 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,760 to talk about. We'll get there. 769 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,800 Yeah, yeah. Threats. 770 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,320 Go ahead, buddy. What's your? 771 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,360 What's your or? Sorry, Josh. 772 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,360 I used a save state. The last thing I was gonna say 773 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,920 it's the only time I used a save state in the entire playthrough 774 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,880 was literally I used a save state. 775 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,280 I literally used a save state right before right after you 776 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,840 climb up the tower and right before you enter into the boss 777 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,720 because to put out those fucking fires to shoot a fucking egg and 778 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:58,200 trying to fucking hole so you can fucking and fucking jump up 779 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,400 the fucking thing. And I just. 780 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,120 Fucking hate. So yeah, sorry, just go. 781 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,040 On. Oh man, and then the boss itself 782 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,680 was a pain, which we'll get to, but I that's the only time I 783 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,760 used to save state and then I died so many times to the boss 784 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,560 anyway. Then I started save stating in 785 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,280 the middle of it 'cause I just didn't care anymore. 786 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,160 I'm like, I've already proven I can get to this with this level 787 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,640 and actually relatively consistently. 788 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,560 I don't feel like doing this again and again and again when 789 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,880 I've already proven I can get to this. 790 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,800 So I normally I don't count save stating as like like oh I beat 791 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,480 the game if I did it like no no issue if someone else does. 792 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,320 I just can't do it for myself. This time I did because I 793 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,760 thought this was more of just wasting my time than actually 794 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,160 testing me on something. But. 795 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,720 That's fair. Anyway, that's fair. 796 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,720 And a mini rant. I will re rant when we get to 797 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:45,240 the boss. Thrac, go for it buddy. 798 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,600 What was your sort of, was this the first time you played it and 799 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,640 so. IIA 100% of this game a couple 800 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,720 years ago. Yeah, I I did everything. 801 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,080 I, I don't know what propelled me to do it, but I did. 802 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,720 And so yeah, I messed around with it a little bit again just 803 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:06,080 to re familiarize myself and, and yeah, I was, I was surprised 804 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,000 at how well they were able to take like a, a 3D platformer and 805 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,640 convert it to a quasi like 2.5. It's like the top down Zelda 806 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,480 perspective. But they're still using like, 807 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,760 you know, 3D character models for Banjo and all that. 808 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,080 And they look really good. And yeah, they were somehow able 809 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,000 to make a platforming game from that perspective, which kind of 810 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,560 worried me. And there are definitely some 811 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,920 depth reception issues, especially if you're trying to 812 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,480 jump up onto something. But I found when I was playing 813 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,360 it, the more I played it, the more I got used to it and kind 814 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,640 of learned how they judge height, you know, so you can 815 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,520 just kind of adapt your brain a little bit. 816 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,880 And yeah, there's like a lot of mini games in this as well. 817 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,480 Like arguably too many, like all the fishing and like the quiz 818 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,280 answering and all that other stuff, but I found myself 819 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,400 enjoying the game overall. You know, it it, it was a pretty 820 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,960 solid and interesting experience as a way of converting Banjo 821 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,600 Kazooie to the Game Boy Advance. Well, I was saying, yeah, it's 822 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,800 the only Banjo game I've beaten, so I have limited. 823 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,480 I've never played Banjo Tooie ever. 824 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,560 I've been I've played a bit of Banjo Kazooie off and on on N64 825 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,920 and I like it. In some ways I like it more than 826 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,400 Mario 64, but other ways I don't. 827 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,360 And then Nuts and Bolts I do not like at all. 828 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,720 It's I I have very, very little. Experience with that? 829 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,200 Yeah, yeah, it's really. Like it I I know people who love 830 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,080 that game. I got to, I got to give it 831 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,480 another shot. They love it for like specific 832 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,240 reasons, you know, reasons that I understand. 833 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,960 But like when I played it, I'm like, this isn't what I wanted. 834 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,480 Right, right. That's, I think that's that. 835 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,120 I think that's largely that's the issue. 836 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,640 I think that's like the overall, like disappointment with it. 837 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,520 It's like, oh, this is not what I wanted or needed or expected 838 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:57,360 or whatever at the time. So, yeah, Jiggy, I feel like I, 839 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,720 I don't know if you're going to say this is this is awesome or 840 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,200 you're going to say, or if you've played this before before 841 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:09,000 now, or if you're going to say this is the worst decision they 842 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,280 could have ever done and bring you back to the 64. 843 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,720 I really don't know where you're going to sit with this. 844 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,280 So what? What do you think? 845 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,240 Well, First off, I just want to say like nuts and bolts is fine. 846 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,880 I don't think it's fantastic, but I, I, I feel like I've been, 847 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,600 I've been going through like it's not that bad guys. 848 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,040 But you're right, it's not Banjo 3. 849 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,640 But I also thought it was interesting that you said that 850 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,000 after you said you never played Dewey. 851 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,800 So I'm like, OK, I love the banjo series. 852 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,760 Obviously I did play this one growing up. 853 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,720 I did not beat it growing up. I found it really hard and like 854 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,320 kid me struggled to get through it. 855 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,960 Yeah, there's some tough spots with this in terms of like 856 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,480 puzzles and whatnot. Sorry to cut you off but I could 857 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,440 see how totally like I could see I I had to use a a walkthrough 858 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,640 in some spots just cuz I'm like I don't feel like aimlessly 859 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,200 wandering for like 20 minutes just to find another goddamn 860 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,280 piece of a puzzle. I remember Banjo Kazooie. 861 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,160 Oh my gosh, that's another thing. 862 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,880 We'll talk about that some other time, then we. 863 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,960 Can. Talk about it. 864 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:19,720 Yeah. There you go. 865 00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:23,080 Yeah, yeah, let's do it. It. 866 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:25,240 It plays good. I think, like what they were 867 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:26,920 saying. I thought it translated pretty 868 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,760 well. The game mechanics that I'm 869 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,280 familiar with, you know, Banjo felt like Banjo the world feels 870 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,640 very Banjo Yi. Honestly, if I was going to play 871 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,960 it for something though, I'd be playing it for like the little 872 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,400 lore and like just one point, the story, like 1.5. 873 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520 I think that's pretty cool. This takes place in between 874 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,720 Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie. What I can't stand about it is 875 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:57,960 the fact that you have moves like the drill PEC and I'm just 876 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:03,400 like, OK, that's the move we learned in Tui, but we get in 877 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,640 Grunty's Revenge and Banjo just doesn't know it and you need it 878 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,480 in TUI like it to save your like Goldfish Royston. 879 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,560 It's like, I don't know, it's like little things like that. 880 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,480 It's sort of like kind of broke up consistency between the 881 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,920 games, which it's not that big of a deal. 882 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,920 It's a lore thing. It's a lore thing I get. 883 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,200 It it's a lore. Thing and it came out after TUI, 884 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:24,720 didn't it? Yes. 885 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,080 Yeah, OK. Both these both these GBA games 886 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,320 said yeah. They probably just forgot. 887 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,000 Yeah, Prayer does that sometimes. 888 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,760 It's it's cool. I like it. 889 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,840 It's not my favorite Banjo game. Obviously. 890 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,200 There's some things I like. I like how you can go to Mumbo 891 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,440 because Mumbo's happening right now. 892 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,080 I like you can go to Mumbo and you can actually pick what 893 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,040 transformation you want. I thought that was a really cool 894 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,680 mechanic. So it's like, I do like that you 895 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,080 could, you could be a different transformation in a different 896 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,800 level and you know, you need to do that. 897 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,000 I think that's really neat. I love just how all the 898 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,640 characters and everything looks. I think like looks wise, I'm 899 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,280 really impressed with this GBA title. 900 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,480 I think it's really cool. I did have the same depth 901 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,040 perception issues like it was, it was frustrating. 902 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,920 At some points you really have to rely on your shadow, so you 903 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,400 kind of gauge 1 landing on something, which is nothing new 904 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,880 to 3D platformers, but in a 2D platformer? 905 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,680 Weird. I'll. 906 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,320 Give them credit, they tried to make the the shadow as dynamic 907 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360 as possible when you're going up and down like they tried to make 908 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,640 up for. It that's true, it's not just 909 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,120 like a flat always the same shape or whatever. 910 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,320 Yeah, that's true. They tried, yeah. 911 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,600 Yeah, yeah. So I sit, I sit somewhere in the 912 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,520 middle. I I, I don't think it's bad. 913 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,480 I don't think it's great. I think it's it's OK to good and 914 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,920 it's a fun experience, but I definitely like I'm probably not 915 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,720 going to replay it. That's where I'm at, yeah. 916 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,480 I also think that the voice acting gets under my skin very 917 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,800 easily if I have to hear like like I know that in Banjo 918 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,080 Kazooie and Tui and even like DK64, they kind of have that 919 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,360 same type of like voice cadence like the the the voice sounds 920 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,000 for some reason that doesn't. Bother me as much, thank. 921 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:13,600 You on the N64 as it does on this This one really like graded 922 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,080 my nerves. Like, real bad. 923 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,160 Yeah, I like it. I like that. 924 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,320 Probably. That's probably the sound or the 925 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,320 lack of AGBA sound, yeah, which I can understand, yeah. 926 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,680 And I, I think there's also a memory thing. 927 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:30,280 So like, there's fewer iterations of the gibberish. 928 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,240 Yeah. So they're working with less. 929 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,360 And I think they're also like, just, I mean, that's no stranger 930 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,760 to the banjo series, just like pitching slightly different 931 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,360 versions of the same. I honestly, I turn on the music 932 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,960 just to hear the stage like one or two times and then I play it 933 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,040 on mute. That's how. 934 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,240 I played so did did Grant Kirko work on this? 935 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,560 I I doubt he. Did no, I don't think so. 936 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,320 I don't not neither of these titles. 937 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,920 He was he was a part of it was this was that's fair. 938 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,960 So what's interesting too about this is that it's right at the 939 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,480 time and and I think it was this one specifically or was it 940 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:07,720 pilot? I don't remember. 941 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:10,800 I think it was this one specifically where it was 942 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,320 supposed to come out a year before and it just took kind of 943 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,320 a while to get going. And then what happened was it 944 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,040 was right. This got released right when 945 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,920 Microsoft bought Rare. So there was a lot of internal 946 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,280 and external sort of bullshit going on that. 947 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,000 Yeah, probably. Published a lot of. 948 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,440 Changes. Yeah, this was published by THQ. 949 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,800 THQ. And there's a handful of GBA 950 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,120 games that Rare made that are published by THQ because 951 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,840 Microsoft allowed that because they weren't going to publish on 952 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,320 Nintendo systems, at least not yet. 953 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,120 Not yet. Yeah. 954 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,360 So there was. Yeah, that there was the Sabre 955 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,960 Wolf remake. The banjo pilot is also THQ so. 956 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,800 And it's Mr. Pants, which people, a lot of people forget, 957 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,560 is a rare game. Yeah. 958 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,080 Exactly. Yeah. 959 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:56,160 So this this actually started as a GB color title, Yes. 960 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,360 And it sort of trans transitioned into it and banjo 961 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,200 pilot just to like piggyback into that was actually supposed 962 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,840 to be Diddy Kong racing. I don't know if it was supposed 963 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,920 to be Diddy Kong Racing 2 and I got. 964 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,040 Pilots. It's just what? 965 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,920 They call it Transition. I thought it started off as 966 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,800 Diddy Kong Racing 2 and then Transition did pilot and then 967 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,600 they switched to Banjo and I. Switched don't remember the 968 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,600 Yeah, they I have a couple notes written down about they switched 969 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,440 the banjo because I thought that it was Microsoft, that they 970 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,640 didn't have the rights to the Nintendo characters, so they had 971 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,000 to find another way to Microsoft, Microsoft. 972 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,800 Was like, totally for them making GBA titles, by the way. 973 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,160 Yeah, because they were just, they just didn't have a 974 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,320 handheld. And they're like, sure. 975 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,960 Yeah. Like, great. 976 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,760 Why wouldn't you take take advantage of that chance when 977 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:40,520 you have it right? Because they. 978 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,240 Didn't have another I think. I think they flirted with the 979 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,240 idea of making a handheld in the 360 era but it never really came 980 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:48,080 to be. But there is that one that's 981 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,280 supposedly coming either this year or sometime next year. 982 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,000 Sometime in the next couple years, I'll, I'll, yeah, I'm 983 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,440 interested. Nah. 984 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,280 I'm too Nah. I I'm curious how about this? 985 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,440 I'm curious how. About this, I'm curious too. 986 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,400 I mean I'm an Xbox guy so I'm curious. 987 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,000 I love my game Pass. That's that. 988 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,880 So I'm curious just because of that alone. 989 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,240 So I. Like your controller. 990 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,880 I have game pass as well. Yeah, but I would just put game 991 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,560 pass on a Switch too. Let's just do it. 992 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,880 Or just steam back. They tried. 993 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,240 They tried it. Didn't work out what was I going 994 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,720 to say oh I was going to say I I am pretty much I think we're all 995 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,880 kind of in agreement with with how this game is is it amazing 996 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,600 no. Do they do a decent job yes. 997 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,600 Is it does it feel the best that every point and all the puzzles 998 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,680 and the depth perception no, there's some issues with that 999 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,240 and it's there's a lot of that's just limitation of the hardware. 1000 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,880 It's hard to sort of translate that I do think that I didn't 1001 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,040 have that much of a problem with the depth stuff, but it's only 1002 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,120 certain points where I was like this is ridiculous like this. 1003 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,720 This Cliff above me looks exactly the same as what I'm 1004 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:55,880 standing on. How would I how could I possibly 1005 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,160 know that this is above me or below me? 1006 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,120 This is this is stupid. The the difference of where it 1007 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,800 works no problem is like what we're seeing right now on the 1008 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,440 screen with like spiral mountain and stuff. 1009 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,680 It's easy to see because you know, the walls are brown and 1010 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,760 the ground is green for grass and it's just you just know, 1011 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,040 right? And that's totally fine. 1012 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,600 But otherwise, there's a lot of points where you just run into 1013 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,800 it and you're just like, well, I don't understand how you could 1014 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,000 have possibly done that so. It's funny because the the, the 1015 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,520 level that's on screen right now is one of the levels with, with 1016 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,640 the worst instances of that, with the freaking in the Bayou 1017 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,080 with the docks and stuff. Like there's a section down in 1018 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,000 the southern part of the dock that like you can't. 1019 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,200 I genuinely could not tell that I was going to be able to jump 1020 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,560 high enough to reach it, but you can. 1021 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,760 But it just, it doesn't, it feels like when you do your, 1022 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,080 your, you know, your crouching high jump, it doesn't feel like 1023 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,160 I would be able to reach it, but you can. 1024 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,280 And it's it's very hard to really kind of gauge that, which 1025 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,120 is frustrating. Yeah. 1026 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,320 The interesting part is that like the shadow thing that we 1027 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,440 were talking about is present for you, but it's often not 1028 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,760 present for the platforms. So you. 1029 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,320 Yes, you. Can't really like there's some 1030 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,240 sometimes you'll see the, you know, the, the legs of whatever 1031 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,040 you're you're trying to jump on or off in front of you and 1032 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,360 that's fine. But if you're kind of at the at 1033 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,200 the back of it, you can't really tell. 1034 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,600 So it yeah, it looks like you can just walk right onto it. 1035 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,120 No, but no. Instead I'm just walking into 1036 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,480 like, you know, poison. Essentially, and you know, one 1037 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,640 that one thing I when you're talking about how like, you 1038 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,320 know, this game's not great, but it's it's solid. 1039 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,560 It's good, but not bad, but not great. 1040 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,520 It it I've been seeing the discourse a little bit more 1041 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,400 recently on blue sky and other things like that. 1042 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,280 But like what is a perfect like 7 out of 10 game? 1043 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,640 To me, this is a 7 out of 10 game where it's like it doesn't 1044 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,560 do anything great, but it's like it's solid. 1045 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,440 It's a real I I'd even give it like a 7.5 if I was actually 1046 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,240 grading it on like a out of 10 scale. 1047 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,960 But I also usually grade things a little more lenient than other 1048 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,760 people. So like, I don't know, to me 1049 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,400 this is like a 7 out of 10 game. Like it's got a lot of solid 1050 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,080 stuff going for it, but it's just there. 1051 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,600 There's some really weird things that even like right now, like 1052 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,640 the mini games are very odd. Yeah, so if anyone can't see. 1053 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,360 It that's what we see on screen. Just like yeah, the. 1054 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,200 Mini games, there's so many of them I feel like, and I feel 1055 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,680 like it's excessive. I think it's just trying to pack 1056 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,480 because the game's not super long anyways, so I think it's 1057 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,880 trying to pack out the experience and they're just two 1058 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,480 hours for the yeah and for the most part, like the mini games 1059 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,360 just I don't they're not great. I have. 1060 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,480 A question for the four of you or the three of you. 1061 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,200 I have a question for the three of you in I only saw this one 1062 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,080 mini game on the final boss. I don't know if I would have. 1063 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,800 I don't think I saw it anywhere else. 1064 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,600 So the mini game that we're seeing on screen right now, 1065 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,040 there are no listeners won't be able to see it. 1066 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,280 But essentially you Banjo has a fishing line. 1067 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,720 He casts it at the however long you hold the cast button 1068 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,280 determines how far to the bottom of the screen the line goes. 1069 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,960 And then you have to time it with fishes going across. 1070 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,880 But you can't catch crabs because that'll hurt you. 1071 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,360 No, I mean like a real life. Crabs hurt. 1072 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,760 You don't catch crabs. Kids don't catch crabs. 1073 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,480 Don't catch crabs kids, it's not great. 1074 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,120 So I'll give. You crabs. 1075 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,720 Not from any experience or anything, I'm just it's just a 1076 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,960 it's just a general knowledge type thing that's all. 1077 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:19,280 My wife and I have a but no so the the one mini game though in 1078 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,040 the final boss they did the same thing where it was it was like 1079 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,280 fishes and like crabs but they were all underground. 1080 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,960 You couldn't. You can't tell. 1081 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,520 So I was like already down to like, so little health. 1082 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,720 And I'm like, I want to make sure. 1083 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,840 Was there any visual indication that you could tell the 1084 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,680 difference between crabs and fish when they were fucking 1085 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,280 under the sand? So yeah, so this is like sort of 1086 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,400 like a classic sort of old school fishing type mechanic 1087 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,840 where where you just where you just you, you cast the line like 1088 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,080 you said. And there's different sort of 1089 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,040 like, you know, power to your cast, I guess for how far you 1090 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,520 can throw it or something. Normally you can see, oh, 1091 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,680 there's the redfish, there's the green crab catch the redfish, 1092 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,880 that's the mini game. But in that in that boss one, 1093 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,640 they're all underwater and all you see is like shadows 1094 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,960 essentially. There's no difference. 1095 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,880 And I look this up and I was like, is does one move 1096 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,280 differently? Is that how you can tell or 1097 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,840 whatever? I thought, I thought it was 1098 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,640 movement stuff. It's not apparently. 1099 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,600 Apparently it is randomized and that is. 1100 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,000 I mean, I'm sure I don't know this for sure, but I wouldn't be 1101 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,320 surprised if certain ones are always a crab, Certain ones are 1102 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,480 always a fish. Like you go through it a second 1103 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,200 time and they're always in the exact same place. 1104 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,720 I don't know that. And I feel like it gives you 1105 00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:32,920 more fish than crabs anyways. It does, but the problem is. 1106 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,880 The crabs. I got 1 fish and like 5 fucking 1107 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,960 crabs and that must be my life before I did the save state on 1108 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,960 the final boss. So then I had to go and do the 1109 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,960 whole goddamn thing over again. Fucking goddamn. 1110 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,720 Crab that is maybe it is one of the that is one of the points 1111 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:53,640 that I ended up playing this not on on the actual GBA and stuff. 1112 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,840 That's one of the points where actually I could be. 1113 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,120 The only point is that is that exact fishing spot where I was 1114 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,840 like I have to use a safe safe 'cause I have one hit left, one 1115 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,640 fucking hit left. So I make one mistake when it's 1116 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,360 like 5050 chance essentially. How the fuck am I like it was 1117 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,280 it's it's a stupid, stupid idea that that part specifically was 1118 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,400 so stupid. Just imagine if that video game 1119 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,160 was in a 3D Banjo game. Just imagine. 1120 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,480 It's like the big the catfishing game. 1121 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,480 Yeah, yeah. It's probably it's probably 1122 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,520 better on mobile phone. Oh yeah, there. 1123 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:27,920 Is a. See that? 1124 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,240 Version There's a mobile phone version of this of this. 1125 00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:31,480 I didn't know that. I didn't see. 1126 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,280 That my guess is. My guess is it's. 1127 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,480 The same. My guess is it's the same game 1128 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,520 but like like engage screen. Yeah. 1129 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,680 Sonic and I was. Going to say if they I could 1130 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,760 totally. It's very like move in a line, 1131 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,760 collect all the notes in a line. Like, look it up, it's very 1132 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,640 interesting. No thanks. 1133 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,800 The fact that it exists is kind of cool. 1134 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,920 Yeah, do that right now. The other thing that's a little 1135 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,400 bit of a mini game, which I thought was a really dumb 1136 00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,240 decision in my mind is some of the honeycombs that you pick up 1137 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,600 are a mini game for how much health you have. 1138 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,080 And I thought that was so I thought it was so stupid. 1139 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,320 Like when you pick up one, OK, it gives you health. 1140 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,120 I get that. That's that's the way it is. 1141 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,720 When you pick up the one with a 2O, it gives you two. 1142 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:14,880 OK, cool, that's not bad. But then there's one where 1143 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,040 there's a a 10 second timer and it is randomized across your 1144 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,360 whole health bar. And sometimes you can lose 1145 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,040 health just because you happen to press A at the exact moment 1146 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,000 that you weren't quote UN quote supposed to. 1147 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,200 I thought that part of it was stupid. 1148 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,400 The other part where it's like, you know, it gives you a couple 1149 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,840 at a time fine, OK, every once in a while they give you a 1150 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,680 little extra health great. Why do why? 1151 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,720 And it stops the game. The whole game just stalls and. 1152 00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:41,800 I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. 1153 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,120 It's a TUI mechanic that should not have been translated to this 1154 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,320 game. I know I I I forgot that that 1155 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,480 was even a thing. That was in TUI, yeah. 1156 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:50,800 Yeah, it's in TUI. Yeah. 1157 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,600 Oh no, yeah, I totally. Forgot it works in TUI though. 1158 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,240 It works in TUI because a you know that it's. 1159 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,440 It's a honeycomb that you can avoid if you don't want to do 1160 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,680 it, but it seems it's a lot faster. 1161 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,800 It's easier to land on that like Max health thing. 1162 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,040 So if you're in a level where you're like losing health, it 1163 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,920 can really help you out. But it's like totally optional, 1164 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,680 right? I feel like in this one you're 1165 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,400 you need health all the time. That's true. 1166 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,680 Constantly. Yeah, you are. 1167 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,520 You are struggling a lot more with your health because there's 1168 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,000 a there's a few points that I ran into and I don't know, maybe 1169 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,440 maybe it was just, I couldn't quite figure it out, but some 1170 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,920 enemies knock off more health than others and there's really 1171 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,680 no way to tell why. Maybe because they're like 1172 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,200 different elements or something. I don't, I don't know what the 1173 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,280 deal is, but I didn't love that either. 1174 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,600 And then all of a sudden I'm doing, you know, I'm, I'm just 1175 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,600 scraping by to get by a stage that actually really shouldn't 1176 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,240 be that difficult, right? Just because of that. 1177 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,960 So. They're also. 1178 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,760 Like see, I didn't really struggle until like the final 1179 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,880 boss, which is. Where it gets yeah, I wouldn't 1180 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,520 say it's just unfair. It it is pretty unfair. 1181 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,840 Yeah, it is pretty unfair. I I don't know if if struggle's 1182 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,440 the right word or more just like an annoyance I think is probably 1183 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,160 I could see. That I mean, I could see that. 1184 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,360 When you try to move as fast as possible and just go collect 1185 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,880 everything right And you have a game like what's it called it 1186 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,440 the level that's like the this, the oil like spillage, like 1187 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,480 harbour level. It's like spill something, 1188 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,200 right? No, no, no, not in the original. 1189 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,000 That's Rusty Buck Bay. Don't test my knowledge. 1190 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,720 I was gonna say I know that one. I was like, no. 1191 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,440 This. One spill harbor, maybe that's 1192 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,480 coming to mind. It's it's this level that he's 1193 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,200 like walking up to. There's a section. 1194 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,080 The name bees Spiller's harbor section with. 1195 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,000 Bees. Yeah, Spiller's Harbor. 1196 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720 There it is. And the bees take away 2 1197 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,440 honeycomb per hit. And you wanna just quickly, 1198 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,720 like, run through, hit the switch that you need to switch, 1199 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,560 and then there's a timer and you gotta run, do these shock pad to 1200 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,920 jump up. But the bees are hyper 1201 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,840 aggressive and they come at you so fast. 1202 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,760 You're intended to have the golden feathers at that point, 1203 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,280 right? And they're like, yeah, I walk. 1204 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,520 Through them I definitely did not. 1205 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,680 But who's gonna do that? I can make it right, But you run 1206 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,520 through and they're just like, like super fast. 1207 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,080 Like way too fast. There's no way. 1208 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,200 There's no way to avoid them. It's it's impossible. 1209 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,600 When Thrack said he 100% and I was like God damn, he actually 1210 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,960 did because this is the one. There's two jiggy pieces that I 1211 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,960 did not get and that was one of them. 1212 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,040 Because in order to get it, you have to get the invulnerability 1213 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,000 feather go over, take out the bees. 1214 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,680 Once the bees are gone then you're fine until you walk too 1215 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:30,640 far off. Oh, I did. 1216 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,680 I did it with them and then they respond. 1217 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,720 So then you then you hit the switch and then you have to 1218 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:46,240 Sprint over to the gazebo to like have Tui or sorry, Kazooie, 1219 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,320 excuse me, do it there long, like jump to get up top there 1220 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,640 and then you have the switch again up there to that. 1221 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,920 That'll spawn the jiggy, But then you have to get over to the 1222 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,120 spot fast enough. Yes, and I just couldn't get 1223 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,440 over to the spot fast enough. And I didn't feel like doing 1224 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,160 that same thing over and over and over. 1225 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,400 Again, just. For a. 1226 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,360 That I that I didn't need anyway because I was already ahead on 1227 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,360 the jiggy count. So I just kind of like, I just 1228 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,360 didn't care. At some point I just didn't. 1229 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,320 Care that that's fine. I so, So what got me going with 1230 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,000 with like doing things like that is I wasn't necessarily trying 1231 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,520 to 100% it because I mean, we'll talk about this when we actually 1232 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,960 talk about Banjo Kazooie itself. But as of this recording, we 1233 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,800 have not talked about it yet. I tried to 100% that game. 1234 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,880 And I think I've said this on a previous episode already. 1235 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,520 Maybe it was the Rayman when we were talking about it where I 1236 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,520 was only off by like 4 or five notes and. 1237 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,640 I got everything. Yeah, everything else in the 1238 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,200 game. And I was like, I can't, I can't 1239 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,040 fuck, I can't, I can't. I don't have time to find this. 1240 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,680 It was in the final world and I was like, there's Four Seasons 1241 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,880 to go through all these changes, all this up and I was like, I 1242 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,040 can't do it. And this, it was a smaller game 1243 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,720 and I'm like, I think, I feel like I could pull it off. 1244 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,840 And again, I was only short by like 3 or 4 notes and I was 1245 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,600 like, I don't know where the fuck any of these are. 1246 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,440 So I didn't do it. But I came so close. 1247 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,360 I had everything else every other collectible I had in this 1248 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,400 game except for that I missed that. 1249 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:16,320 I have no idea. Yeah, I. 1250 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,240 Have no idea. Where 100% in this game is a 1251 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,440 tedious exercise that you should not have to do. 1252 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,960 And don't feel compelled. Yeah, I did it 'cause I was 1253 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:29,480 like, by the time I beat the game I had I I didn't have that 1254 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,600 much left 'cause I just just like to try to get everything I 1255 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,080 can. So I was like, and let me just 1256 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,640 go find it. And I used to walk through 1257 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,720 'cause there was, again, a couple notes I was missing and 1258 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,520 like one GPS. So I got them and I was like 1259 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,000 sweet and I yeah. But but to really like hammer 1260 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,120 home and do it and stuff, you're right. 1261 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,840 I I it's not, you know, you don't really have to and you 1262 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,680 don't need it necessarily to beat the game, right? 1263 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,600 Like it, like you just said, Josh, like you can get to the 1264 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,320 end doing I don't know what it is. 1265 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,040 Maybe probably 8085% of the jiggies probably get you there. 1266 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,560 And it's probably a similar number for the notes because the 1267 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:06,240 notes you need things for the moves that you have to give old 1268 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,880 man Groundhog or whatever. So old. 1269 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:16,560 Maasai, Maasai. Yeah, that that's it that that's 1270 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,000 that's pretty much all you have to do. 1271 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,560 But I, you know what for for a game that I think could have 1272 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,440 been like a honestly probably like a complete disaster, they 1273 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,560 could have really botched this. This could have been really 1274 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:34,360 messy, really ugly, you know, because on a handheld, on a, on 1275 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,600 a system that doesn't quite have what it needs to do what the 1276 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:43,120 original does or the one both that came before it, this could 1277 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,880 be really half assed. That could be something that's 1278 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,240 really slow, really mucky, doesn't include all the moves or 1279 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,560 very many of them at all because it's easier not to and it's hard 1280 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,120 to get the sort of depth things going and the height and all 1281 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,280 those types of things. I to me, I think it's still 1282 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,480 pretty impressive that they managed to pull it off, largely 1283 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,840 able to pull it off. Well, honestly, I think the GBA 1284 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,120 is a console that has a lot of like surprisingly competent 1285 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,680 games like this. Because I think by the time the 1286 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,480 GBA came out, it was people viewed it as a portable Super 1287 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,360 Nintendo so you could have those quality of games. 1288 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,560 Even growing up I thought it was that because I was like, oh, 1289 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,240 these are all the games I used to have for the SNES. 1290 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,360 Cool like. Yeah, and, and also it's also a 1291 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,320 little bit more powerful as well, because there's a lot of 1292 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,440 games that try to do 3D stuff with varying degrees of success. 1293 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,400 There's even PlayStation one ports on this thing that's range 1294 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,560 and quality wild. Yeah. 1295 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,920 But but yeah, I think the GBA was was up for the task and and 1296 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,560 credit to the the devs for for making it work, you know, like. 1297 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,520 I think so. It would have been interesting 1298 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,960 if it was like a side scroller, but if it was like a side 1299 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,140 scroller it would probably just be more linear because a non 1300 01:03:50,140 --> 01:03:52,840 linear side scroller like this probably would have been kind of 1301 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,720 lame, you know, so. Well, and then like, you know, 1302 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,200 we talk about like, oh, what's the expectations of nuts and 1303 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,360 bolts and stuff at this time, especially so close to when Tui 1304 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,040 and and the original came out. I think if you just did a, a 2D 1305 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,280 side scroller of this franchise, it would be like, this is 1306 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,320 definitely not what I want. You know, this is definitely not 1307 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,800 what I expected and it's kind of disappointing. 1308 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,520 So they, they went for it and I, I agree like you, like you just 1309 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,160 said, it's, it's impressive. Yeah, it was a fantastic example 1310 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:27,440 of that exact scenario because Crash Bandicoot had two 2D side 1311 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,560 scrollers on the GPA and. They're fantastic, I loved them. 1312 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,080 Yeah, like they're great, but but. 1313 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,240 Crash is a more linear game than Banjo is. 1314 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,560 Yes, because, because if you think about it, the Crash 1315 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,200 trilogy on PS1, they're just 2D platformers with a different 1316 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,320 camera angle. Yeah, that's. 1317 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,240 Right, someone made a joke a while ago that Crash Bandicoot 1318 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,320 is what Sonic should have been for a while. 1319 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,200 Like Crash Bandicoot is like a slowed down version of what 1320 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,160 Sonic 3D should have been. Not 3D Adventure, not Adventure, 1321 01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:01,000 but like if you think about it like like what Sonic what I what 1322 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,360 like the 2D Sonic games thrive at Crash Bandicoot kind of did 1323 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:11,160 first in 3D, not not excuse me, not before this 2D games. 1324 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,960 Obviously I'm just talking about I'm talking about, but so since 1325 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,280 Crash already did it and then I don't know what they were trying 1326 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,720 to do with the 3D Sonic games, dude, I'm not trying to take 1327 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,280 away from that. I know a lot of people love 1328 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,880 them, but like they are not anything like in terms of tone. 1329 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,960 What 2D Sonic games are right, They're completely different. 1330 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,160 For better or worse, whether you love it or hate it, they're 1331 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,120 completely different. Yeah, that's true. 3D Sonic, it 1332 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,480 went in a different direction, but I think it was it was trying 1333 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,360 to evolve the series and kind of give it. 1334 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,560 Its own Oh yeah, no, the the T it's not a this is not a 1335 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,720 criticism of any or by any stretch. 1336 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,080 It's literally. But if you think about like 1337 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,760 Crash, it's more of an observation that I can't even 1338 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,600 take credit for. I heard it on Retronauts and I 1339 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,720 kind of agree with their take where if you just think about 1340 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,160 Crash Bandicoot, they just took 2D Sonic, move the camera behind 1341 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,520 Sonic and then there you go. That's and slowed it down. 1342 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,880 It's much slower than a Sonic. Yeah, I was gonna say my only 1343 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,320 contention is that game does not really have an emphasis on 1344 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,440 speed, and it definitely wants you to collect things more where 1345 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,600 Sonic isn't necessarily about. Using. 1346 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,920 I think it's trying to be fast. I think it's trying to be low. 1347 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,200 To be fair, neither does to be Sonic 2D Sonic. 1348 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,480 Their early levels have an emphasis on speed, but you when 1349 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,200 you get farther into those games, you you should not run 1350 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,120 fast. You will be killed unless. 1351 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,480 It's hard to in my opinion. Well, it, it could just be my 1352 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,960 bias, but like, I know those games so well, I can whip 1353 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,040 through them pretty quickly because they're just, they're 1354 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,240 trial and error. Like the more you play it and 1355 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,800 the more you learn the routes and everything you you have to 1356 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,920 earn the speed, which I think a lot of people forget about with 1357 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,880 Sonic because they just want to hit the boost button. 1358 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:45,760 It's hard. It's hard to. 1359 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,440 Do but you have to earn it but. There's a. 1360 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,960 Discrepancy then. It is a discrepancy. 1361 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,400 You have to earn. Learning speed is the reward. 1362 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,400 It's not about speed then. But I I think speed is better as 1363 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,480 a reward because if you just have speed without earning it, 1364 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,800 it doesn't feel as good. Then you have games like Sonic 1365 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,840 Forces. I will say though, that Sonic 1366 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:13,360 won definitely after Greenhill like even going into marble 1367 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,640 marble, well, I'm freaking marble zone, marble zone, you go 1368 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,920 in it, it focuses more on the stop push this box here like it 1369 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,840 is not focused on speed. It is focused on platforming and 1370 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,360 slight puzzle solving, not complicated puzzles, just simple 1371 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,080 puzzles. Sonic 2 and onward a little more 1372 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,440 open, a little more emphasis on actually like going through 1373 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,680 loops. And like if you look at like the 1374 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,840 levels themselves and the way they're laid out, like they 1375 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:44,320 focused more on what made Green Hill great in Sonic 2, like kind 1376 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,800 of the whole way through. So I feel like as you progress 1377 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,360 through the series, there's an emphasis on more speed than 1378 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:51,880 there was. And then you get Sonic R, which 1379 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:56,600 is just the culmination of every I. 1380 01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,360 Like the soundtrack? Oh yeah, we go Super Sonic 1381 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:00,880 Racing. Oh. 1382 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,720 Yeah, sorry I I got us off on a on a tangent with Sonic talk. 1383 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:05,560 I mean, I could talk. To you I. 1384 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,720 Agree with you, I could talk to Sonic all day, but I mean Sonic 1385 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:15,760 1 if they if if the zones were like mixed around a little bit, 1386 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,279 you know like if you didn't go from green hill to marble, like 1387 01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:20,240 say you went green hill to spring yard or something, it 1388 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,240 would it would flow better. Like Sonic one has kind of a 1389 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,720 weird flow that they did fix in the later games. 1390 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,600 It's Casino 3. Is casino night zone in in 2? 1391 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,319 See that one. I also feel like is very slow, 1392 01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,640 not in a bad way. It's a very it's a fun level to 1393 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,240 play like I love that level, but but there's so many things that 1394 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,600 will just like bounce it, bounce you back. 1395 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,800 You get stuck. In the in the middle. 1396 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,760 Yeah, yeah. But at the end of the day, if 1397 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,399 they are platformers just like anybody else, I think people 1398 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,960 when they think of Sonic, they think of speed and want to treat 1399 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,720 it like a racing game. And it's like no at the. 1400 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,640 End. And that's also how they 1401 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,479 marketed it too, to be honest. True. 1402 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,920 Like, but at the end of the day, yeah, they're just, they're 1403 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,000 fast-paced platformers, you know, they're faster than Mario 1404 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,840 and they're more focused on like momentum and all that kind of 1405 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,800 stuff. But at the end of the day, 1406 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,760 you'll still have to do jumping stuff and fight weird Robotnik 1407 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,560 bosses that suck like the Casino Night 1 and and you know, it is 1408 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,359 what it is. Man, Yep, that's. 1409 01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:14,520 And that ain't Banjo. No, that's nothing. 1410 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,240 Yeah. That's not banjo. 1411 01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:19,080 Banjo is very slow paced. Yeah, it's pretty slow paced. 1412 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,399 Almost, almost to a fault. Almost at at points. 1413 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,080 At points, sure, yeah. Absolutely. 1414 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,880 It's one of the gripes I have about this game too. 1415 01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:31,680 It's not particularly the level design, and it might just be 1416 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,800 based on the limitations. We talked about the depth 1417 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,200 perception and everything, but the actual layout of these 1418 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,520 worlds I find frustrating to navigate. 1419 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,479 Yeah. Some of them definitely are. 1420 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,040 Yeah, there's there's only a handful of like definitive 1421 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,080 landmarks that you can really latch onto and be like, OK, this 1422 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:51,600 is where I am. Yeah. 1423 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,880 And it's just you have such a small view and perspective of 1424 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:59,360 the actual like entire area. I almost think this will be 1425 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,480 really cool if it was on PC and had like, you know, like ultra 1426 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:06,760 wide support and you could just see everything that would be 1427 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,600 that'd be dope. Yeah, that's just me throwing 1428 01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:09,800 that out there, but. It definitely. 1429 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,480 It definitely feels like the level design is just trying to 1430 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,200 do what Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Two we did with the big 3D open 1431 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,360 worlds. But yeah, as you said, it 1432 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,160 doesn't have the real, the screen real estate to make it 1433 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,400 work. Yeah, so they they should have. 1434 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,640 Done a better job. Yeah, or even maybe like a 1435 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,840 little mini map or something to help keep you. 1436 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,720 Keep track. Just something even like a 1437 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,240 simple mini map, like something I just had, even just some 1438 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,440 sprites on it, like just. A very basic thing, yeah, 'cause 1439 01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:36,800 there's so many times in this game where you're, you're 1440 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,160 running around and you're like, wait, am I here? 1441 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,680 I thought I was over there, you know, and you get lost. 1442 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,440 Yeah, especially with some of like the outdoor areas where, 1443 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,000 yes, depth is part of it, but also everything kind of looks 1444 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,800 the same on the ground. So it's a little bit difficult 1445 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,680 to figure out. You know, we're watching sort of 1446 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,160 an indoor area, which I think was a little bit more defined. 1447 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,160 But that's, again, that would be with a lot of games. 1448 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,680 Too. I hated the area that we're in. 1449 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,080 Right now, so did I, but it was at least you could you knew 1450 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,480 which direction you needed to go. 1451 01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:05,040 Or at least I I did. I didn't. 1452 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,480 I was OK with this with this particular part, but it was the 1453 01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:10,360 only issue with this is the whole thing where I mentioned, 1454 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,560 like it, you just lose so much health in this area because 1455 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,640 everything's on fire and the ground is on fire. 1456 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,480 There's lava and it's like, OK, you know, I get it. 1457 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,400 Can I just, you know, do something to get around that? 1458 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,640 It felt more difficult than it needed to be only because if you 1459 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,160 made a small mistake, you're punished more than I thought you 1460 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,080 should be. Again, that's that's a 1461 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,440 platformer. There's an ice level, there's a 1462 01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:34,760 lava level. There's, you know, like all 1463 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,320 those types of things. It's all there. 1464 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,440 It's just all part of it, right? The person who's playing this 1465 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:41,280 game right now that we're watching, it's definitely not my 1466 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,160 playthrough. They're crazy good. 1467 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,040 They're crazy good. They're they're dodging the 1468 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,800 fucking bees. Like get out of here. 1469 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,080 This is all they play we. Stitch together a lot of 1470 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,840 sections of it, a lot of these long plays all stitch together 1471 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,840 their best. I'm not knocking it, but they'll 1472 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,840 stitch together. Yeah, their best just. 1473 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,040 To play multiple. Just to keep it short, yeah. 1474 01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,680 You know what? You know what's crazy, though? 1475 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,600 We've been talking about it. A lot of the criticisms we have 1476 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,440 are like the similar ones I would have to Kirby in the 1477 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:08,320 amazing Mirror on GBA. Oh, OK. 1478 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,600 Like. I haven't played it so I can't. 1479 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:11,560 Yeah, I mean I. Haven't played it. 1480 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,720 I'll just it's Kirby trying to be a Metroidvania, like an 1481 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,880 amazing concept, but I think the execution was not great and for 1482 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,240 a lot of the same reasons here we're like the map. 1483 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,320 It has a map system, but it's not great. 1484 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,400 And very often I was getting lost and be like, where the fuck 1485 01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,760 do I have to go, you know? But. 1486 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,360 In fact, for those who who said they didn't play it, it is on 1487 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,760 Switch online I believe. Oh, but I'm. 1488 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,160 Pretty sure it is. That's me, the game. 1489 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,840 I think is yeah. Grundy's revenge is not. 1490 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,080 No. That'd be interesting if it was. 1491 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,480 Yeah, it would be. It's it would be a good, good, 1492 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:47,480 yeah. Kirby that's. 1493 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,120 Yeah, true. Why? 1494 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,160 Not, I mean, they're not putting anything else on GBA, Yeah. 1495 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:56,880 I know, honestly, Jesus, come on, let's let's get to pilot in 1496 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,200 a second. But I wanna make sure that we 1497 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,040 talk about the boss. So yeah, we, we haven't gone 1498 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,120 into like a lot of the we'll just. 1499 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,480 We'll just let. We'll just let Josh go. 1500 01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:07,680 We'll just let Josh go for it. We haven't gotten into like a 1501 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,720 lot of sort of like the the finite details of like, you 1502 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,600 know, whatever, but like honestly, it's it's it's a 2.5 D 1503 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,360 ish Zelda, you know, just check out the game. 1504 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,240 You'll get an idea of what it looks like and stuff and go like 1505 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,440 that. But The thing is with the with 1506 01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:24,600 the boss is the final boss. I think it's taking ideas from 1507 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,200 the other games. I think that's what's trying to 1508 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,880 do and mash them all. At least for me, it feels that 1509 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,320 way a little bit. And they're trying to mash it 1510 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:37,120 all together in this way too long of a sequence of a final 1511 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:44,080 boss battle that, you know, OK, maybe give, give grunty extra 1512 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,200 health or. It has five stages. 1513 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,600 That's that's what. It is not needed. 1514 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,520 You don't need 5 stages for a four hour platformer. 1515 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,040 It would be fine if it checkpointed you. 1516 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,080 Yes. But it doesn't checkpoint you. 1517 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,080 And to Josh's point, the number, to me, the number one issue with 1518 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:09,560 it is every time you do fail and die, because you likely will at 1519 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,520 least once or twice, it's not like it brings you back to the 1520 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,920 beginning where you just walk into the door and hey, let's 1521 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,040 start this over. You have to, you have to go to 1522 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,960 this area of Spiral Mountain. You have to have enough frozen 1523 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,840 eggs in order to put out fire that comes back and then you 1524 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,880 have to go. I think it has a timer too, 1525 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,640 doesn't it? We have to get to the timer in 1526 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:36,280 order to jump to the area that has the the walkway, the doorway 1527 01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:40,080 to take you to the boss level. Why do you need to do that shit 1528 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,760 just to do the boss over and over and over again? 1529 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,200 Because you will need to do that. 1530 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,080 That part should not even be part of it. 1531 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,600 Like it should not be an aspect of this. 1532 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,800 Do it once. Banjo Kazooie make you do this 1533 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,760 on North 64. No, no, no. 1534 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,880 OK, There is an element in the in Banjo Kazooie, the first game 1535 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,480 that is similar to this boss with the quizzes. 1536 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,000 Yeah, the Banjo Kazooie and. That's why I'm saying that's 1537 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,960 what's getting I. Would argue even fans of that 1538 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,720 game are not a fan of the quizzes. 1539 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,360 I don't know about you Jaggy. I can't say for all fans, but at 1540 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,840 least my perception of even people who like Kazooie a lot, 1541 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,280 they're not necessarily a huge, I shouldn't say a huge fan of 1542 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,840 the quizzes, but I to me the quizzes are just not great game 1543 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,640 design because it doesn't test you on any mechanics that 1544 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,920 they've taught you. They test It tests you on your 1545 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,560 memory that you didn't know you were being tested on in the 1546 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,760 first place. Sound effects and whatever, 1547 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,720 yeah. Yeah like what sound does this 1548 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,640 thing come from? Like, I don't fucking know. 1549 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,960 Like yeah, they all sound the God damn same on an N64 I'm. 1550 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:39,520 I'm the first. I'm the first. 1551 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,960 Game exaggerating, but the. First game's furnace fun Furnace 1552 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,760 fun, very unforgiving. Like you have to, you have to 1553 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,240 get good. Didn't like that as much. 1554 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,720 I actually didn't mind two weeks as just sort of like an ending 1555 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,400 game gimmick. It's not that bad. 1556 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:58,520 It's just kind of silly. There's also a lot more of like 1557 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,160 what level is this? And it's, it's sort of, it's 1558 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,000 something I actually started doing on my YouTube channel as 1559 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:08,440 like community posts like texture challenges, where I'm 1560 01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:10,640 just like, what game is this from? 1561 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,400 Like, let's see if you guys can get it. 1562 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,840 And I'll just take like a random like screenshot from a game and 1563 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,360 like zoom in on something and like, and it's kind of fun. 1564 01:16:18,440 --> 01:16:21,080 What pixel is this game from? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1565 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,200 People. I'm amazed at some people like 1566 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,360 how fast they get it. I'm like, how do you know this? 1567 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,920 Like Crash, Like Crash 2, it's this level and I'm like. 1568 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,040 What the Wow. Like I didn't even know that. 1569 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,920 I zoomed in on the dirt texture like this could be any insert 1570 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,800 PS1 title like ever. It's just crazy. 1571 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,040 I, I don't mind the quiz stuff, mainly because I just like for 1572 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,360 me, I, I, you guys were talking a little bit about the sound and 1573 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,000 stuff. I I like the sound, I like the 1574 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:50,960 music. I'm OK with that. 1575 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,080 I it just. Oh, the music I liked. 1576 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,200 I hated the sound effects for the voice specifics. 1577 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,000 See I'm totally fine with it. To me it just brings me back. 1578 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,760 So I think I just the nostalgia hits me even though I didn't 1579 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,280 play this. Specific game what grading your 1580 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,000 ears on? No, I just like it. 1581 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,560 I like hearing. I like hearing. 1582 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,200 I like. I like gibberish, but I I play 1583 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,440 this on mute. It's it's trying to be 1584 01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:13,480 consistent with the other games in the series. 1585 01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:14,960 But yeah. But I understand. 1586 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,000 And some are better than others. Isn't as good. 1587 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,440 Yeah, some of them are better than others. 1588 01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:20,920 Like Grunty sounds pretty good. Banjo doesn't really sound like 1589 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,280 banjo sounds really weird. Yeah, but but even that it, I 1590 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,400 don't know, It's almost like he only has one sound, whereas 1591 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,760 normally, like Jiggy said earlier, they have a couple more 1592 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,440 cadences that you kind of play with and his is very, very 1593 01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:35,320 monotone, if that's even how it would work when it's gibberish. 1594 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,960 But. I don't even know monotone. 1595 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:39,800 Gibberish. Monotone. 1596 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:40,920 Gibberish. My new band name. 1597 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,960 That's great. Yeah. 1598 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,960 So anyway, so back to the boss. So you do a version. 1599 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,560 You start with a version of a boss that you've played already 1600 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,840 up until this point where there's a shield. 1601 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,200 You run around. I guess we don't really get 1602 01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,720 quite to the story that much, but Grunty is in a Mecca suit 1603 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,920 and has all these like different abilities and stuff. 1604 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,680 Mecca grunty. Too bad you didn't like also get 1605 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,280 large and like fight like over rooftops or something that'd. 1606 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,280 Be sick if you want a brief synopsis. 1607 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,040 Yes. Basically Grunty's soul gets 1608 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,080 thrown into this Mecca version of Grunty and time travels back 1609 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,320 to the past to actually capture Kazooie and like stop. 1610 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,880 Like doesn't want Banjo Kazooie, doesn't want Banjo Kazooie to be 1611 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,520 together. No, just kidnaps Kazooie, it 1612 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,800 locks her up. So you actually have to spend 1613 01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,920 the first part of this game rescuing Kazooie and Mumbo uses 1614 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,800 his magic to send Banjo back in time to, you know, save Kazooie, 1615 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,080 save all of time. I guess I don't know. 1616 01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:46,200 And it's it's a little like the time thing isn't really that 1617 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,920 important, honestly, no. It's. 1618 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,360 Are you telling me Banjo is the hero of time? 1619 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,120 Banjo is the true hero of time, yes. 1620 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,360 No, honestly, this sounds like Banjo's version of the 1621 01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,600 Terminator. Yeah. 1622 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,120 Oh yeah, it. Is sort of like the Terminator, 1623 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,120 yeah. Yeah, the banjo Terminator. 1624 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,960 Yeah, 100. Percent banjo is are you 1625 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,440 Kazooie? I'm looking for Grud. 1626 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,920 I'm looking for Kazooie. Come with me if you want to 1627 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,560 spring. With me if you want jiggy. 1628 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:18,040 It's it's super interesting too, because it actually caused 1629 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,840 another issue with the Mumbo, like being in the past. 1630 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,240 In the in the original game, Mumbo's face is a skull because 1631 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:31,120 grunty like was his student and transformed his face into a 1632 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,840 skull. And but in the past his face is 1633 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,320 still a skull. So that's just kind of like an 1634 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,440 oversight. And then they're like, well, we 1635 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:39,960 never really capitalized on it anyway, so everyone just accepts 1636 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,400 that Mumbo just always look like that. 1637 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,880 And then for some reason, like we have Bottle's grandfather 1638 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,400 teaches us moves for being a main person in the series. 1639 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,000 Bottles like his role gets diminished like. 1640 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,960 He's not even in this. He's basically he's, he's not 1641 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,600 even anywhere close to beating this. 1642 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,120 Yeah, well. In two weeks. 1643 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,200 Because he loves it. Right, That's right. 1644 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,760 Yeah. I love that banter stuff. 1645 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,160 I love it. That's like one of my favorite 1646 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,600 parts of. These games, they took so much 1647 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:12,320 from Tui in this game, right? And it it feels like it needed 1648 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,640 to be scaled back significantly. It needed to be more like 1649 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,240 Kazooie, less like Tui, but they just kept packing stuff in. 1650 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,280 It's like just refine the gameplay that you have. 1651 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,880 Right. Up adding mechanics and it gets 1652 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,240 a little overwhelming and in the boss fight in the boss fights in 1653 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,400 general because there's even boss fights where you have to 1654 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,040 use like first person perspective and like. 1655 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,600 Yeah, forgot about Target. Yeah, that was yeah. 1656 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,880 And I found that pretty easy though, like I got through 1657 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,680 pretty quickly but. It's just it's padding, like we 1658 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,880 said it earlier, it's padding. It's a lot of padding. 1659 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,320 This game is like, OK, we're short. 1660 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,120 We're gonna pad the game and we're gonna make things as 1661 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,120 difficult as possible, which is all I could think about with the 1662 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,000 with the last boss. I'm just like, let's just make 1663 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,800 this super difficult to make this game extend just a little 1664 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,880 bit longer. Yeah, so so my whole thing with 1665 01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,960 the with the with the boss was that I did you end up using the 1666 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,840 safe state? Cuz even though I do have this 1667 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,560 is the only one in the in the franchise where I just have the 1668 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,400 cartridge and not the box. Like this is the only one I 1669 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,840 cannot find a complete for a realistic price for a realistic 1670 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:14,720 price. So I'm just. 1671 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:15,840 Game collecting. Amazing. 1672 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,720 It's just fantastic, isn't it? It's the only series where I'm 1673 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,400 like, I gotta get everything. That and some of the Donkey Kong 1674 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,520 stuff. But anyways, I ended up using a 1675 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,360 safe state for it because. And one of the reasons why is 1676 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:32,880 yes, it's frustrating and pretty annoying, but I've connected my 1677 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,960 retro arc to retro achievements. I don't know if thrac, if you've 1678 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,400 if you've used that at all. Yeah, it's great. 1679 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:39,480 I. Love retro achievements? 1680 01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:42,040 Yeah, it's so good. I'm not usually an achievement 1681 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,800 hunter, trophy hunter person. I'm not. 1682 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,400 But when it comes to these, it's cool that it adds it to retro 1683 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:48,560 games. So I'm like, you know what? 1684 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,120 Every once in a while I'm gonna try to go for the extra stuff, 1685 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,560 which is one of the reasons why I tried to go for a couple more 1686 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,480 notes, a couple more Jiggies and things like that. 1687 01:21:55,680 --> 01:22:01,120 One of the achievements in this is to beat the final stage of 1688 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:05,040 grunty without getting hit and. Nice. 1689 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,720 And I did not, I actually did not have a choice because like I 1690 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,880 said earlier, I only had one hit left when I was doing the 1691 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,040 fishing mini game thing and that happens just before you get to 1692 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,280 this point. So whether I had retro 1693 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,720 achievements or not and whether I had save states or not, well, 1694 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:21,920 I guess I had to have safe states. 1695 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:27,040 But where I saved it I only had one honeycomb left and I ended 1696 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,560 up beating that last part yes trying multiple times but I 1697 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,840 ended up being beating that last part without getting hit and I 1698 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,640 was. Like I think what's frustrating 1699 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,920 and I think what's frustrating with the final boss is that the 1700 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,600 actual like when you're when you're not in the quiz sections, 1701 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,920 I actually don't hate it. I actually think it's not like 1702 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,320 awful, like even the final grunty like showdown, Yeah, 1703 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,280 that's I don't think is unreasonable and I don't think 1704 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,760 it's completely unfair. I actually think it's a pretty 1705 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,920 decent final boss. It's just that it's the, it's 1706 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:03,520 the gauntlet nature of it. All on one health bar, all on 1707 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,680 the fact that like, they they, they what a boss is supposed to 1708 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,640 be. Is it supposed to test you on 1709 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,160 the mechanics that the game has taught you throughout your 1710 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,240 experience? Up to that point. 1711 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:19,680 Up to that point, right, the quiz is not a mechanic like 1712 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:24,040 there's no mechanics in the game that like are meant to like 1713 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,080 prepare you for this test. If they gave you quizzes leading 1714 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,240 up to this, almost like here, here's some stuff that did like 1715 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:32,760 what do you remember from this section? 1716 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,800 You just played through? And then by the time you you you 1717 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,920 might not you might be a little frustrated in that first 1718 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,920 section. So then you go to the second one 1719 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,720 and then see when you see see it in the second area, you're like, 1720 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,800 oh, so this is just a thing that I'm going to have to do. 1721 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,880 Whether you like it or dislike it is up to you. 1722 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,200 But like if they if they continue continuously did that, 1723 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,440 so by the time you get to the final boss, you're like, well I 1724 01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:55,800 gotta be fucking prepared. I have, I, I've taken 5 quizzes 1725 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,720 after there. I better know my stuff about the 1726 01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,000 trivia of this world. But they haven't. 1727 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:05,400 The the game doesn't teach you any trivia mechanics, for lack 1728 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,000 of a better term. It's just. 1729 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,120 It teaches you platforming mechanics and shooting 1730 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,360 mechanics. I think I think they like they 1731 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,040 can have quizzes even in general in the game but just leave it 1732 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,320 out of the final boss too. Exactly. 1733 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,840 So when you get to the final boss and like each section of 1734 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,520 the final boss is another test of something that you've done 1735 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,600 before. I mean, I'm not a fan of the the 1736 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,400 henchman turning invisible, but I think they don't make him 1737 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,400 visible for long enough. I think that's a little not 1738 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,880 unfair, but it's not very fun because it's like I feel like 1739 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,920 I'm playing more guesswork than anything else. 1740 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,560 You're like, you know, he'll, he'll disappear. 1741 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,800 The dude will disappear. You'll see which direction he 1742 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,240 just like as he's walking off. So you go to that direction and 1743 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,560 you attack and then you miss him and then he suddenly spawns and 1744 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,160 he's on the opposite side of the screen. 1745 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,800 So I felt like I was just getting lucky half the time and 1746 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,400 not actually like I, I didn't know what to how to infer his 1747 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,040 pattern because you can't see him. 1748 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,040 You see the direction anyway, but that that's a minor grave 1749 01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:08,040 because I was able to beat it. But like those sections, those 3 1750 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,200 sections, if it was just three phases of that, I would have 1751 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:12,840 been cool with it. I would have been. 1752 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,560 I'm I'm annoyed that they do a section, a quiz, another like 1753 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,800 boss mechanic section, and then another quiz an even longer one 1754 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,720 and then the final one. Like I actually did not hate the 1755 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,840 actual segments of the boss that were the boss, it was just the 1756 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,080 quizzes. And then like you also said, 1757 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,400 Dave, the lead up to it to literally get to the boss by 1758 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,160 having to climb that tower every single time. 1759 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,600 And the fact that you needed to have those eggs at the ready, 1760 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,440 which you might not. And if you don't have any, they 1761 01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:45,920 do have some that will spawn for you but you only get 3 at a time 1762 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,520 and three is not enough so you have to get three run off screen 1763 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,400 in order to spawn it. I found a way to spawn it faster 1764 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,960 is just to go into the honeycomb hive and then come right back 1765 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,000 out because if I even if I walked over to the honey home 1766 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,600 hive and walked back it, they weren't always there so I just 1767 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,240 would just go to honey home. Hive just a stupid idea. 1768 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,480 The fact that you even have to do that, it's just dumb. 1769 01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:10,000 Yeah, it's just. Dumb so that I think what's 1770 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,240 frustrating is that the boss itself is actually a really good 1771 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,560 boss for what they teach you throughout the game. 1772 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,000 It's just the stuff before and in the middle is the problem. 1773 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,000 Yeah, the the filler, like you said, the filler. 1774 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:34,880 So OK, before before we forget, I guess I I think this game is 1775 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,320 worth playing. Don't expect anything 1776 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,440 incredible, but there are little grapes and stuff that we've 1777 01:26:38,440 --> 01:26:41,320 mentioned. But but let's talk about Banjo 1778 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,640 pilot because I want to make sure that we're definitely 1779 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,160 covering some of this because no, no, because honestly, 1780 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,520 because it's. An hour and a half into 1781 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:49,400 recording. Yeah, that's fine. 1782 01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:51,960 It is fine. But the reason why one of the 1783 01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,560 reasons why is because I know that especially for for me and 1784 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:59,560 Jiggy, we absolutely love Diddy Kong Racing and think it's just 1785 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:03,080 a fantastic game. This would have been in Banjo 1786 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,640 Pilot, like was mentioned earlier, was supposed to be a 1787 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,760 sequel to that or spiritual successor or whatever it might 1788 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,200 have been called at the time and just didn't happen for the 1789 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,520 various reasons like Microsoft and rights and all those types 1790 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,200 of things that that we also mentioned. 1791 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:24,640 But but it's a cart racer with a plane and you know, some some 1792 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,960 depth and some you know, up and down mechanics and verticality 1793 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,760 and things like that. But it is very much a classic 1794 01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:37,320 cart racer at heart. This game was something that 1795 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,800 completely passed me by. I don't know if I was done 1796 01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:43,080 playing the GBA too much at the time. 1797 01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,320 I don't know if I just didn't know what existed. 1798 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,120 I don't know. I don't know what it was, but I 1799 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,600 never played this up until a couple years ago when I picked 1800 01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,760 up this this cartridge and, and played it and I was like, Oh my 1801 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,280 God, I got to get all the Banjo Kazooie games and I'm an idiot. 1802 01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,920 So I got to go buy it and I got to find it in the box and all 1803 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,960 that kind of stuff. And I think it's overall, I 1804 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,760 think it's I think it's pretty good overall. 1805 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,960 I, I, I enjoy, I am I am enjoying and have enjoyed my 1806 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,720 time with it. But just like Grunty's revenge, 1807 01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,440 I don't think it's a home run for a lot of different reasons, 1808 01:28:16,440 --> 01:28:19,480 but I like Banjo pilot and I like what I played with it. 1809 01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:24,480 So Jiggy, what what about you? Did you played Grunty's revenge? 1810 01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:28,680 Did you play this grown up too? Briefly, briefly. 1811 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:29,840 OK, I did. Yeah. 1812 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,560 Oh, of course it's it's Banjo. So I was like, but sorry you 1813 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:34,400 were. What this is? 1814 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:40,080 Oh, this is not one that I liked. 1815 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,240 OK. And I, I, I played it now and I 1816 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,440 can see some like redeeming qualities, I guess. 1817 01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:48,200 I, I was really like, Oh my gosh, this is Jenny Kong Racing. 1818 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,560 I'm a Game Boy with Banjo. This is going to be fantastic. 1819 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,600 That's how I talked to when I was like 10 or whatever. 1820 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,240 You're fucking cool a lot whenever you it's. 1821 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,080 Going to be it's going to be really really really great OK 1822 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,360 and then it ended up being really really, really mid you 1823 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:04,520 know got. Some in your mouth. 1824 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,240 Yeah, you. Know marshmallows? 1825 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,080 It's it's interesting. Chubby Bunny. 1826 01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:11,200 Chubby buddy. Chubby buddy. 1827 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,880 Yes, exactly. You. 1828 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,600 You, Dave. You. 1829 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,360 Love Did you love Mario's Super Circuit? 1830 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,560 I, I, I, I really, we talked about on, I talked about on, on 1831 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:26,240 Josh's show. Yeah, I was going to say you 1832 01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:27,880 guessed. It I was trying to, I was trying 1833 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,320 to remember it. I I don't think. 1834 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,440 I, I don't think I I loved it completely, but I, it's another 1835 01:29:32,440 --> 01:29:35,600 game that I also had very little experience before coming on the 1836 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,680 show and talking about it. I liked it. 1837 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,840 I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was one of the I 1838 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,640 was, I was pleasantly surprised. I actually was going to expect 1839 01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,440 it wasn't going to be very good and I had a pretty good time 1840 01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:46,880 with it. I if you want to compare the 1841 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,560 two, I've that game's probably better than this in my opinion. 1842 01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:54,000 But but yeah, I had AI, had a pretty decent time with it. 1843 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,320 I just like, I don't really like that game. 1844 01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,400 OK. And I don't really, I don't 1845 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,480 really care about this game either, to be honest. 1846 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,840 OK. And I think what it what does it 1847 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,760 for me is the going back to the depth perception we had in 1848 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:14,400 Grunty's Revenge, except this is like all about depth perception, 1849 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,280 like going forward and the the pop in that you get for like 1850 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,480 items and things. Yeah, that's a problem with 1851 01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:24,360 this. It's not bad, it's just it, it 1852 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,960 makes me feel like I can't perform as well unless I like go 1853 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,040 through and do a lap and I like recognize the track where it's 1854 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,680 going. Like I can't like see ahead, 1855 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,800 which most racing games. That's how I kind of play. 1856 01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,200 I'm like, OK, this is coming up, I'm going to go up here. 1857 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:42,720 It's just like a weird like 2DS trying to be 3D sort of thing 1858 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,880 because I've got that with the original Mario Kart on Super 1859 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:48,960 Nintendo. It's kind of the same thing. 1860 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,680 I'm just not a huge fan of it and but I like F0 so I don't 1861 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,880 know what that's about. Right, it's just a better game. 1862 01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:57,800 Yeah. It's it's not that F. 1863 01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,400 Zero is a great game, Yeah, that's no question. 1864 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,440 It's not that I dislike this, but it's not something that I 1865 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,880 particularly would like to play. This is definitely my least 1866 01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,000 favorite Banjo game out of all of them. 1867 01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,000 OK, fair enough. So. 1868 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:12,920 We'll talk about some of the details of, of how it 1869 01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:14,920 differentiates itself and stuff too, because I think those are 1870 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,920 some of the reasons why I, I thought it was like, OK, at 1871 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:19,360 least it's doing interesting things. 1872 01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,440 So, Thrack, what about you, buddy? 1873 01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:25,160 Well oh real quick, Mario Kart Super Circuit. 1874 01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,840 Fun fact, it is the highest rated Mario Kart game on 1875 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,360 Metacritic. Really. 1876 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,560 Shit, what? It's at a 93. 1877 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,360 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a 92. Interesting. 1878 01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,280 So eat it. Super Circuit, Super circuit. 1879 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,160 Super circuit is perfectly fine. Yeah. 1880 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,600 Banjo pilot. I've known about this game for a 1881 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,840 while, but I never really played it 'cause I'm just like, oh, 1882 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,040 it's probably just some stupid racing game, who cares, right? 1883 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,720 It's only been in like really since I've been podcasting with 1884 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,080 Bill 'cause he's really into racing, but I've been playing 1885 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,960 more racing games and I've been getting more enjoyment out of 1886 01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,840 them. So for this one, I was like, you 1887 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,400 know, let's see what the big deal is And and yeah, it's 1888 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:02,920 weird. It's called a cart racing game, 1889 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,600 but you're flying. Shouldn't shouldn't it be, 1890 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,360 shouldn't it be a prop plane? You know, like the the the cart 1891 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,280 no cart equivalent would be a prop. 1892 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:12,160 Plane, prop plane. Yeah. 1893 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,680 I think that the reason why it's that is because you're cartoony 1894 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,840 characters and you're picking up items and you're shooting them 1895 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,560 at other players. That that's it. 1896 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,520 That's a cart racer. That's the definition of that. 1897 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,160 So, but yeah, you're right, it is a prop plane. 1898 01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:25,480 You're right. And there are, there are 1899 01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:27,800 actually some pretty good and interesting racing games on the 1900 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,240 GBA. Yeah, this isn't one of them. 1901 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,000 This is. Like like yeah the pop in can be 1902 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:39,200 an issue but like the track designs are so basic and. 1903 01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:40,920 Similar. Yeah, and like the. 1904 01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,840 You don't like trapezoids? I like trapezoids. 1905 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:45,400 I. Just don't you know what's? 1906 01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:46,920 Your favorite shape? What's your? 1907 01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,360 I have to think about it and. Get back on a 2D plane. 1908 01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,120 Not on a 3D plane. On a 2D plane. 1909 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,520 Yeah, this is strictly 2 DI. Like the hexagon? 1910 01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:59,160 There you. Go hexagon A. 1911 01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:00,680 Healthy. That's a healthy shape. 1912 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:02,680 That's a good one. Yeah, a naturally occurring 1913 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,040 shape too. But but yeah, like the track 1914 01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:11,080 designed is very plain, like the items they give you all. 1915 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:14,160 All I really saw was either you could spit out like an ice cube 1916 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,160 behind you or you could just shoot a fireball in front or 1917 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,160 like a UFO and that. Was that was the UFO thing is 1918 01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:21,800 weird. Yeah, yeah. 1919 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,080 And it's like the game tries to have rubber banding but it 1920 01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,440 doesn't really work because there'll be times where I get 1921 01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:31,480 swamped with like like I'll be in first and I'll just get hit 1922 01:33:31,480 --> 01:33:34,320 with a bunch of items and go back to like 6th and then I just 1923 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,320 do like a lap and then I'm back in like second again and I hit 1924 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,640 like 2 items. Bungee jumping versus rubber 1925 01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,560 banding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1926 01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,600 It's slingshotting. Yeah, it's, it's really weird. 1927 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,440 Like it feels like the game is trying to be difficult, but it's 1928 01:33:48,440 --> 01:33:51,240 like super fucking easy. Yeah, it's not that hard. 1929 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:52,840 Yeah, it's not that. Yeah, yeah. 1930 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,880 And and you have like you can hold R to do a sharper turn, but 1931 01:33:55,880 --> 01:34:00,000 like I never really needed it. Yeah, no, you're you handle 1932 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,280 pretty like it controls perfectly fine. 1933 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,600 If your handling is solid, you don't have to. 1934 01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,120 You don't skid or anything weird. 1935 01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,200 Like that and to your point, the tracks, because they're not 1936 01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,960 super difficult, you don't need to worry about those tight turns 1937 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,280 as much as you would in something like Diddy Kong Racing 1938 01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:16,800 that has that. As or an F0 even. 1939 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,560 Or F0, Yeah. Yeah, exactly. 1940 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,240 The only interesting thing is you can adjust your height, 1941 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,880 which say for like when you go through the, the the speed 1942 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,200 boost, you know, if you're not the right height, you could miss 1943 01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:29,280 it. Or if you're trying to get the, 1944 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,160 the music notes, you could miss them if you're not high or low 1945 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,440 enough off the ground. But that's really about it. 1946 01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:38,840 This feels like like a like a vertical slice for what a banjo 1947 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,000 racing game would be on GBA. Like it doesn't feel fully 1948 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,360 formed. You know, they're like, it needs 1949 01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:45,640 more interesting. Yeah, it like it needs more 1950 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:49,840 interesting level design or it needs, it needs something more 1951 01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,400 and it just doesn't have it. But they're like, hey, let's 1952 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,320 just get this out of here because we got to we got to make 1953 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,920 cameo or something stupid. So like, yeah, just get this out 1954 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,920 the door. You know, we can move on to 1955 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:02,240 that. So it's it's OK. 1956 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,360 Like I played it for a couple hours. 1957 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,560 I don't feel like I wasted my time, but I don't feel like I 1958 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,280 gained anything. Yeah, yeah. 1959 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:09,440 That's fair. That's fair. 1960 01:35:09,480 --> 01:35:11,800 Like like if you want to play a really cool cart racing game on 1961 01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,760 GBA I'd recommend Konami Crazy Racers. 1962 01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:18,520 That game is really good. OK, yeah, that was like really 1963 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,880 good track design. It's Konami. 1964 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:25,000 So it's got it's, I think it has like Dracula and I think Gray 1965 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,720 Fox is in it, you know, but it has really good track design. 1966 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,360 It controls better than Super Circuit. 1967 01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,160 I like how it looks. Yeah. 1968 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:32,720 That's a really cool game they all should check out. 1969 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,600 So you're telling me it has more than just trapezoids? 1970 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,880 Oh yeah, it's got, it's got all kinds of shapes. 1971 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,160 I think there's a Figure 8 in there too. 1972 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,480 Oh my God, fancy. Don't be crazy now I know I. 1973 01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:46,280 Thought we were just looking for for straight corners in here. 1974 01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,720 Jeez, you thought Josh turned? My camera off. 1975 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:53,840 Yeah, Josh, you weren't able to to get your time with this and 1976 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:55,160 stuff. Is it ever, was it ever anything 1977 01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,280 that you were you were interested in at all or is it 1978 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,280 kind of just no, no, not really? No, so I am not a racing game 1979 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,040 fan in the slightest. The only racing game I've ever 1980 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,880 enjoyed in my life is a PS1 snowmobile racing game called 1981 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,680 Sled Storm. Really, really like that. 1982 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,240 It's really good. It's really good. 1983 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,040 It's really good. I love it. 1984 01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:17,360 Racing games are an interesting breed. 1985 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,920 So what I will say this, I, I think Thrak, you're right on the 1986 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,440 money with this, where it just needed something more. 1987 01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:29,040 And the reason I say that I, I, I have no idea how it controls 1988 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,080 how it handles because like I said, I didn't play, but I've 1989 01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,680 been watching literally videos leading up to this. 1990 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:39,080 And so all, all my experiences with just how this game presents 1991 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,320 visually, right? I don't even know what the sound 1992 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,000 is right now because I've had it muted down. 1993 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:47,200 Well, let's, let's see. Well, why would you do that to 1994 01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:52,360 me? No, so the The thing is the 1995 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,720 where where the reason why I say it needs more, I think one thing 1996 01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,680 it actually does really well. I actually think the character 1997 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,480 sprites are really good. They they, they, they clearly 1998 01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:03,960 did a lot of animation work on them because they'll flip and 1999 01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,760 tumble and turn and you, they feel fully realized. 2000 01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:12,480 When you see that where the game really kind of fall fails and 2001 01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:17,800 falters is not even just the layout of the track design, it's 2002 01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,680 the visuals of the track design. Because it's almost like if you 2003 01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:25,000 look at the backgrounds of every single thing, it's like they 2004 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:28,920 took a panoramic shot and it just pans left and right 2005 01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,920 depending on how you turn the cart. 2006 01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,520 There's yeah, it feels really weird and it doesn't feel fully 2007 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,400 natural. It does, it doesn't, it feels 2008 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,840 like a really poorly done sky box, Right. 2009 01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:41,920 And it just it. Yeah, Sky. 2010 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:43,960 Box nice. That's yeah, yeah, yeah. 2011 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,560 There's a lot of those on the Game Boy Advance. 2012 01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:51,720 Poorly done sky boxes. Yeah, I didn't believe it. 2013 01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,200 I mean, actually, I think one of the most interesting things 2014 01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:57,280 about the GBA, this is a very quick side tangent that I don't 2015 01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:58,880 have much to say on because I haven't played them all. 2016 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,760 The GBA is a bizarre amount of first person shooters, which I 2017 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,080 always found super odds like Medal of Honor underground. 2018 01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,880 You know, Dave and I, I don't want this is coming out in what 2019 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,560 may, right Dave? Yeah. 2020 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,640 So probably be. Yeah, yeah, everyone will 2021 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,040 probably. Hear that episode Our episode 2022 01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:18,040 for Punch Nazi month will be out by then so Dave was joined me 2023 01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,280 for punch and Nazi month to talk about Medal of Honor underground 2024 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,840 and for the PS1. It had a GBA version and it's 2025 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:31,040 very weird it's. Very bad like I could do I could 2026 01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,480 do a whole thing on like all the PS1 ports, the GBA right? 2027 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:38,560 That one from my experience is the worst one by far. 2028 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:43,800 Wow, it's it is terrible. And this is obviously not 3D, 2029 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,160 but it's got like, you know, the mode 7 style. 2030 01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:50,480 I don't know if it if mode 7 was on the GBA or not, but that was, 2031 01:38:50,480 --> 01:38:52,000 you know, the Super Nintendo equivalent. 2032 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:56,080 This does is feels like a poor version of that, and I think 2033 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,200 mainly because of the art direction, not because of any 2034 01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,880 technical issues. It's just the art direction 2035 01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,480 really felt like they could have just done a little bit more to 2036 01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:07,240 mask maybe the the the jankiness of the background visuals. 2037 01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,680 I also think just in general, the idea of making everything 2038 01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,800 fly is actually kind of dumb. Not because a flying racing game 2039 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,200 is bad, but there's so many portions where it's like they 2040 01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,960 won't let you fly over the lava because that's a spot where you 2041 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,960 couldn't drive over with a car. I'm like, but I'm not in a car, 2042 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,120 I'm in a plane. I could just fly right over 2043 01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,520 this. Yeah, You might as well just put 2044 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,480 columns of flames above me, like right there. 2045 01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:33,480 So that way I know. Out of the ground. 2046 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,720 Fly through that, yeah. Or like if you're flying over, 2047 01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,080 like I we joked about at the beginning of the episode, you 2048 01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,440 know, if you fly over grass, all of a sudden you see the plane 2049 01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:44,000 start shaking because it's going through turbulence because the 2050 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,320 grass is just so grassy. It's just. 2051 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:49,200 It's too green. Silly. 2052 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,920 It's blinding my eyes, Sarge. It's just. 2053 01:39:54,440 --> 01:39:55,400 Sorry. There's just. 2054 01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,680 That classic Banjo Kazooie character, Sarge. 2055 01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:07,800 Banjo Kazooie Sarge is war. I've seen so many jiggies fall 2056 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,800 not. Today, soldiers been in the. 2057 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,320 Conquer territory here, yeah. Yeah, that's right. 2058 01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:15,720 Yeah. But I'm never made it back to 2059 01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,440 the frame I'll. Be in, conquer. 2060 01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:20,440 I'll be started. But no, I just I think that's 2061 01:40:20,440 --> 01:40:23,200 really where this game falters is it's just it's visual 2062 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,080 presentation because while the characters look really solid, 2063 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:30,600 especially for AGBA title, the world's feel really kind of like 2064 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:34,400 under bait or the the tracks, excuse me, feel very under 2065 01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,200 baked. I will give them credit for 2066 01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,800 trying like a weird boss type of thing at the end of each. 2067 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,200 From what I saw, there's like 4 races in each cup and then 2068 01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:44,560 there's like a boss race and I'm watching the boss races and it 2069 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,560 seems not my favorite type of thing. 2070 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,720 But that also just feels like a bit of preference. 2071 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,680 It's like it seems like you take turns like you're you'd have a 2072 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,760 turn shooting at the boss and then you have a turn dodging 2073 01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,520 from the boss and you have health bars and that kind of 2074 01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:00,880 stuff. It's an interesting idea. 2075 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:05,000 Like I don't think it's a completely it's, it's not a game 2076 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,040 devoid of any unique ideas. I just think there's a lot of 2077 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,800 elements where it's like, well, you could have put this in the 2078 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,000 oven a little bit longer. And I think this there there's 2079 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,160 like, you know, the ingredients in this game. 2080 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,480 I think you could have made a really nice cake, but you just 2081 01:41:17,480 --> 01:41:19,880 let it stay in the you just didn't leave it in the oven long 2082 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,360 enough. And that's kind of like, or 2083 01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:23,920 maybe you left it in too long, who knows. 2084 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:25,240 I think I think that's a part of. 2085 01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,240 This is the, this is the definition of 1/2 baked game. 2086 01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,360 You know, like, like like when you bite and do like a piece of 2087 01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:32,880 bread and that's a little bit doughy in the middle. 2088 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,080 Like this is. That's the equivalent of this 2089 01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:35,960 game. Got you. 2090 01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:37,920 I hope I. Don't get an upset stomach after 2091 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:38,560 this. Yeah. 2092 01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,000 The the the whole, but the whole boss race thing, that's in Diddy 2093 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,800 Kong Racing, isn't it? Well, so that so that's The 2094 01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,760 thing is like the the, the the couple of things that are from 2095 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:49,800 that. And obviously, like we said, 2096 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,840 this was supposed to be Diddy Kong Pilot. 2097 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:57,160 So I think they kept that because they needed to change 2098 01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:01,040 for rights issues. And also it was pilot initially 2099 01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:04,280 and that version because that was one of the unique ways that 2100 01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,880 you drove around and raced in Diddy Kong Racing. 2101 01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,440 So they're like, well, we should do that. 2102 01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:12,640 That'll differentiate us from a Mario Kart or from a Sonic One 2103 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,640 or Crash or whatever was out at the time, right? 2104 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:16,200 So I think that's why they went that way. 2105 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:20,040 And then yes, Diddy Kong Racing has the boss races, which I 2106 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,640 really enjoy, but also very difficult in this. 2107 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:27,560 They're not that hard, so I like that they tried to do something 2108 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,960 different like I do. I think they're incredible. 2109 01:42:30,440 --> 01:42:32,720 No, I think some of them are kind of weird too. 2110 01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:37,080 Like you face bottles at one point and he's like pooping out 2111 01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:39,240 like lightning bolts or something. 2112 01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,880 For some reason I'm like, what? What does this have to do with 2113 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,600 anything? But you said bottles. 2114 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:45,920 I thought you said balls. I'm like, whose balls? 2115 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:53,280 Is bottles cousin little cousin? Cousin Balls. 2116 01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,240 Cousin Balls. Instead. 2117 01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,200 Of the glasses up here, he has them down, blows waist. 2118 01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,920 Bottles is like we have, we see the most extended family of 2119 01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:04,760 bottles in the Banjo series. It's crazy. 2120 01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,560 He's got a wife, he's got several kids. 2121 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:11,400 Yep, he's got his his brother jam jars. 2122 01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:14,080 He was in the military. His ancestor. 2123 01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,480 We just learned about him. Grunty's Revenge like he's all 2124 01:43:17,480 --> 01:43:19,560 over the place. Yeah, I'm so glad to know 2125 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,080 Bottles fucks. Oh, isn't it? 2126 01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,400 Isn't it very reassuring? It's very reassuring. 2127 01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:25,960 Bottles given him if. He can do it. 2128 01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,800 Anybody can. If he could spending all that 2129 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,440 time on the ground and he could still get it done. 2130 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:34,440 Come on. I I, I think you know what? 2131 01:43:34,440 --> 01:43:36,480 I feel like I'm the only one who kind of liked this game. 2132 01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:37,400 I don't know. I like. 2133 01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:39,920 I didn't hate. It I can't, I don't, I can't 2134 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:43,200 really have an opinion on it. I'm I'm basing my like it's 2135 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:46,240 literally all my opinion is based purely off of the visuals, 2136 01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,520 not off of the. Not like the the feel of it or 2137 01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,280 whatever. I so I I think that. 2138 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:52,640 It's definitely. Go ahead, go ahead. 2139 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,400 It's definitely a game that if I had it as a kid, I would have 2140 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,960 played it a bunch and probably had a found this for it, you 2141 01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:02,880 know, because it's very simple and all that. 2142 01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,080 It's just, I don't know, I don't even want to say my racing game 2143 01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:11,400 taste is sophisticated, but like I play a lot of Forza Horizon. 2144 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:17,880 So going from that to this is like, you know, but it is 2145 01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,440 probably fine, but it but it makes me wonder if this was 2146 01:44:20,440 --> 01:44:24,080 Diddy Kong pilot and this was like in theory the same game but 2147 01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,760 Diddy Kong, would it be better or would it be worse? 2148 01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:30,680 I think the expectation would be different. 2149 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,000 Expectation could be a bit different, which is why I sort 2150 01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,280 of mentioned like the, the, the pilot, like the the plane thing 2151 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:37,440 and the boss. You're kind of like, Oh yeah, 2152 01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:38,840 that's what I expect from this game. 2153 01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,360 I don't know, 'cause it 'cause it's not gonna feel any 2154 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,160 different, you know, Like if, if it, if it was. 2155 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,280 And it feels fine. There's something wrong with 2156 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,920 that. Yeah, I think it's OK. 2157 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,320 I think I have some some problems with sort of how they 2158 01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:52,880 they manage the speed when you hit boosts and things. 2159 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,280 But I but I think I think what I give, what I give the most 2160 01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,360 credit to is the is those ideas that it has. 2161 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,080 So the boss that the boss races or battles, you can even call 2162 01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,000 them or at least something different. 2163 01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,000 I don't think they're incredible, but at least there's 2164 01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,200 something different. And then there's, if you go 2165 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,400 deeper into this one, I think there's actually a decent amount 2166 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,680 of races in this, more than I thought there would be. 2167 01:45:17,480 --> 01:45:20,400 And then there's these things, I don't know if you guys got to 2168 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:26,200 this, where when you collect enough pages for is it Cheeto? 2169 01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,080 Is that what it's called Cheeto? Cheeto, who's like the the sort 2170 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:32,760 of like encyclopedia for the franchise that has information. 2171 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,360 Which is spellbook. Which is what? 2172 01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,760 Which is spellbook. Which is spellbook. 2173 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,920 That's what it is, I think I. Think, I think, Dave, I think 2174 01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,640 the Banjo Encyclopedia is here in the call with us right now. 2175 01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:46,480 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 2176 01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:47,560 My mistake. You're not. 2177 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:48,640 You're not wrong. You're not right. 2178 01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:51,080 No. No, It's exact. 2179 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:52,400 Yeah. What are you talking about? 2180 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,960 Yeah. So like when you do that and you 2181 01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:59,000 collect when you win races or when you do time trials or 2182 01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:03,520 whatever, you get pages that you can go to Cheeto and and unlock 2183 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:08,200 characters or battle races or these things. 2184 01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,800 What are what are those called? Jiggy encyclopedia? 2185 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:12,880 What are those called? The little sort of like devil 2186 01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,800 looking guys. The greblins. 2187 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,680 Yes, yes, those. So you can go to Cheeto and get 2188 01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,480 and unlock those. And what happens is they show up 2189 01:46:23,480 --> 01:46:27,080 on certain races and Oh no. No, no. 2190 01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:28,960 Globos, Globos, is that what it is? 2191 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,400 Yeah, Globos. So when you, when you pick up 2192 01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,400 one of those, similar to when you pick up one of the notes or 2193 01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:40,040 the, OR the jiggies in it, a different boost thing pops up in 2194 01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:42,600 the level. And when you go through it, it 2195 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:44,360 gives you, or at least most of them. 2196 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,160 You go through it, it gives you like super speed and it steers 2197 01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,520 for you for almost an entire lap. 2198 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,760 And it's kind of a cool idea because you kind of have to 2199 01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,720 really have to unlock it. First of all, you have to notice 2200 01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,880 that it's in in the in the stage, which sometimes can be 2201 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,360 tricky with the way things pop in. 2202 01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,520 And then you have to go and get yourself to that boost in that 2203 01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,240 same lap and it gives you this massive lead. 2204 01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,080 Then it does try to do the rubber banding. 2205 01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,400 You usually don't really have too much of an issue, but 2206 01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,720 suddenly they're right behind you and then the race kind of 2207 01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,680 continues. But if it is something that you 2208 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,720 get in the second or third lap, it makes a huge difference. 2209 01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,720 That's at least a cool idea. The execution of it is hit and 2210 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,360 miss because of the way that they handle speed and depth and 2211 01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,400 height and things like that. So I think that's kind of the 2212 01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,640 problem with it. But the, again, the idea of it, 2213 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:35,720 I enjoyed and thought it was kind of cool. 2214 01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,320 It was one of those things where I looked up to be like, what the 2215 01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:40,880 fuck was that thing? I just saw? 2216 01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,000 Like, what is that? I couldn't quite tell because it 2217 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,520 was kind of muddy and in the corner and I was zooming right 2218 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,920 past it. But I give it a little extra, 2219 01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,080 you know, kudos for trying to do something. 2220 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,160 A little bit different. This, this, this. 2221 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:57,920 It's just I want this to be Diddy Kong Racing 2 and in my 2222 01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:01,720 mind like, oh, banjo themed Banjo Focus. 2223 01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:04,200 Diddy Kong Racing 2 sounds even cooler to me. 2224 01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,600 I was like, but it's got some things like even the the whole 2225 01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,680 like ready go at the beginning is totally Diddy Kong Racing. 2226 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,320 Like there's so many elements of it that I do I want to like so 2227 01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,480 much. And then the actual gameplay is 2228 01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:20,680 just pretty bland for me. It just doesn't do anything 2229 01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:24,640 special. I didn't really. 2230 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,800 I did play as a few different characters. 2231 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,520 I didn't. I can't say that. 2232 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,240 I, I mean, it's basically like if I hit boost, I was winning. 2233 01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:36,280 So yeah, I don't feel like anyone particularly gave me an 2234 01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,240 advantage. I played as Kazooie a lot. 2235 01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:40,600 So did I. Actually I I never finished 2236 01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,680 below first place. Yeah, it was. 2237 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,600 It was hard to, especially in the early, early ones, It's it's 2238 01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,600 difficult to not win. Yeah, 'cause you hit, you hit a 2239 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,680 couple boosts, like let's say there's two boosts in the entire 2240 01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,400 lap on some of the early ones, which is pretty minimal. 2241 01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,440 You'll be fine. You'll probably win if you make 2242 01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:01,600 a couple mistakes, maybe you'll come, you'll probably still come 2243 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,360 top three. And they're they're pretty 2244 01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,320 generous with the items they give you with the pickups, which 2245 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,920 there are a lot of the timing cart racers that are, are are or 2246 01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:13,640 prop plane, plop plane racers. Easy for me to say. 2247 01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:15,840 Plane Flyers. Plop. 2248 01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:19,720 Yeah, exactly. So, you know, they're, they want 2249 01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,320 you to win. I think it's, it's a little bit, 2250 01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,920 it's definitely more forgiving than like, you know, Super 2251 01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:25,520 Circuit or the Mario Kart games and stuff. 2252 01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:28,160 You can tell this is made for a very young audience. 2253 01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:32,360 Yes, yes you can. There's not a ton of depth to it 2254 01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:36,080 other than like hey collect the pages, unlock stuff and you'll 2255 01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:37,600 get new characters so. Collect a thon. 2256 01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:42,120 Listen, I did like that element of it, collecting the notes on 2257 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:43,840 the track like looking for them you. 2258 01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,040 Know what the notes did? That's a neat idea. 2259 01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,040 I had to look up what they did. What do they do? 2260 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:52,600 Don't they unlike? The they give you, they, the 2261 01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,600 more notes you, you don't have to collect them all. 2262 01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,320 I thought it was one of those things where it's like, oh, 2263 01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,200 collect all the, you know, whatever, and then you get, you 2264 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,080 know, maybe it was coins. I thought maybe it'd give you 2265 01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:02,320 more speed or something like that. 2266 01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:04,640 It's not. So the more notes you collect, 2267 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,840 even if you collect just one, it multiplies how many pages you 2268 01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:09,160 get. At the end of the race. 2269 01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:13,000 Which I was like, OK, that's also kind of an interesting way 2270 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,120 of doing it. The speed and stuff is sort of a 2271 01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:17,560 Mario Kart thing, right? So. 2272 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,760 You get pages if you don't get the notes. 2273 01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:24,360 Yes, you do. Because I never didn't get all 2274 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,760 the notes because that's what I spent most of my time doing. 2275 01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:28,720 I. Was like, there's a note, I'm 2276 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,280 going to get it. The next lap, like the first lap 2277 01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,800 was just like, I'm just gonna look for all the notes, Yeah. 2278 01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:35,840 And the second lap was get all the notes and then the third lap 2279 01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,120 was hit every boost and win. Yeah, that's that. 2280 01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,160 That's pretty much a loop. And then they have the Jiggy 2281 01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:41,480 challenge thing. I don't know if you guys tried 2282 01:50:41,480 --> 01:50:43,440 that. That's essentially like in Diddy 2283 01:50:43,440 --> 01:50:46,400 Kong Racing where you have to collect what's it called? 2284 01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,600 What do you have to collect in Diddy Kong now? 2285 01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,600 And forget I'm blanking me. You have to go around the lap. 2286 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,280 Oh, the silver. Coins. 2287 01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,040 To collect the silver that there's, there's four or five 2288 01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,360 Jiggies around it, It completes a little picture in the corner 2289 01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,200 and then you complete the race. But this is only one-on-one, so 2290 01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,520 it's not as hectic and crazy. So as long as you again, as long 2291 01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,240 as you hit a boost and you collect the Jiggies in like 1 2292 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,080 1/2 laps, you'll probably be fine. 2293 01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,400 You know what? You know what also is really 2294 01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,080 annoying? We go through all these 2295 01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:15,800 different banjo stages. Yeah, and none of the music is 2296 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:19,240 from Banjo Kazooie. It's all like original like, 2297 01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,480 which doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing, but when 2298 01:51:22,480 --> 01:51:25,000 you're going in like Treasure Treasure Trove Cove or Gobi's 2299 01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:29,120 Valley, like tracks that hit super hard, I would have loved 2300 01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:33,320 to have just like, yeah, let's see, let's listen, you know, a 2301 01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,240 GB AFI version of those tracks. I I wonder if they couldn't 2302 01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,240 though because Nintendo owned the copyright too. 2303 01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,760 Well, I guess rare. No rare rings, Banjo. 2304 01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:42,800 Rare rings banjo. Yes. 2305 01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:44,320 But I don't. But who would have the rights to 2306 01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,520 to the music specifically could have been different. 2307 01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:47,600 I don't know. Yeah, but there's. 2308 01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:52,080 But they didn't own, but like, you know, they owned the rights 2309 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,120 to Banjo even on the N64. They were independent of 2310 01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,480 Nintendo. It's just that when they like. 2311 01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:01,000 Yeah, they were a second party developer, like Nintendo had a 2312 01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:04,560 minority stake so that they would publish their stuff and 2313 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,040 had publishing rights. But when? 2314 01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:09,560 I'm pretty sure when Microsoft bought Rare they got all those 2315 01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,200 publishing rights. Yes, that's right. 2316 01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:12,840 So. That's why like Banjo Kazooie 2317 01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:16,840 got those 360. Yeah, and Rare Replay is only on 2318 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,360 on Xbox and like things like. Yeah, exactly. 2319 01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,800 So that is kind of weird that they didn't put any of the the 2320 01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:25,480 tracks from from any of the Banjo game or like the tracks in 2321 01:52:25,480 --> 01:52:27,640 there 'cause like they should have had the rights to. 2322 01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:31,480 It some of the stages have like hints of it, but it's definitely 2323 01:52:31,480 --> 01:52:36,040 not the song, which I think either point would actually add 2324 01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,200 a lot to it 'cause it would give you that feeling. 2325 01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,720 You know, even if like the sound isn't great or even if like the 2326 01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,560 characters don't make the the noises and sounds and tracks 2327 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,640 like at least that is there. And even if it doesn't look or 2328 01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,760 feel like it based on like the visuals. 2329 01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:55,000 Music is a huge part of what rare does in their games and all 2330 01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,040 their really good games like Donkey Kong series is a perfect 2331 01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:59,920 example. Even stuff like Killer Instinct, 2332 01:52:59,920 --> 01:53:03,600 like great music, but, and obviously Goldeneye is a big 2333 01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:06,800 part of that, but like if you don't have that, you lose a lot 2334 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,040 of character and that's a huge part of what they do because 2335 01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:13,480 it's very cartoony music and sound is a huge part of cartoons 2336 01:53:13,480 --> 01:53:16,320 in general. You have to have some of it I 2337 01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,200 think. The only thing I could guess is 2338 01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:21,040 either maybe Grant Kirk Hope didn't want them to use the 2339 01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:27,400 tunes or maybe they tried to GB AFI the songs and they didn't 2340 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:30,720 like how they sounded so they just made new compositions for 2341 01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,760 them. Leading to the half baked theory 2342 01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:36,760 that we that we have. Compositions are a little doughy 2343 01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,760 in the middle. Yeah, a little. 2344 01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:42,560 Too dough. Or maybe maybe because this 2345 01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,200 transition from Diddy Kong pilot, maybe it was like it was 2346 01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:49,200 never intended like to just pick, maybe didn't have time, 2347 01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,320 they didn't have time to do it. And they're just like. 2348 01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:54,200 They're basically how. These tunes are what would have 2349 01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:55,920 been in Diddy Kong pilot. Yeah. 2350 01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:59,160 Yeah, so like you, you asked before, Dave, do we think this 2351 01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:02,440 game would have been better if it if it had the Diddy Kong 2352 01:54:02,440 --> 01:54:06,000 license or and I'm if I don't think it's necessarily a 2353 01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:09,520 question you can answer like if it if you took it directly and 2354 01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:13,040 just put Diddy Kong and Donkey Kong characters in this, no, it 2355 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,320 would not have made it better just because you still have 2356 01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,360 nostalgic attachment to the banjo characters just like you 2357 01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:21,640 do like like you do to Donkey Kong characters. 2358 01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:26,160 And it didn't save it right now. What I do think though, the 2359 01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,800 reason why I don't think you can actually really genuinely answer 2360 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,680 that, is that if this game, like you, like you said Jiggy, was 2361 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:35,400 meant to be a Diddy Kong Racing game that they had to switch 2362 01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,600 over midway through development or at some point in the. 2363 01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,240 Very late actually. They only had about like just 2364 01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,960 over a year to switch this over or under a year to switch. 2365 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,840 This. Over so like for GPA? 2366 01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,040 That's not bad. Doesn't it doesn't. 2367 01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,160 Maybe, maybe it's not bad, but it doesn't sound like much, you 2368 01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,240 know? True, but I feel like the 2369 01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,160 creating this game on that isn't necessary. 2370 01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,400 Like you, you're not going to be able to you're you generally 2371 01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,440 genuinely, excuse me, won't know because you don't know what 2372 01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:03,640 constraints they were played unless they can tell you 2373 01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,880 specifically what constraints they ended up getting placed on 2374 01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:11,040 because of the chaos of the being bought out by Microsoft. 2375 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,000 And now all of a sudden you're switching publishers. 2376 01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:16,760 Like who knows what THQ made them do like if if anything, 2377 01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:19,560 because even though Mike they were owned by Microsoft, THQ was 2378 01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,440 publishing this because Microsoft wasn't going to 2379 01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:25,440 publish on the Game Boy or the GBA or if Nintendo would even 2380 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:26,560 let them. Like who knows? 2381 01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:28,920 Like there's because they were they're a competitor, right. 2382 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,840 So who knows if they had to do some weird stuff with it, kind 2383 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,520 of like kind of like in the same vein of like how Konami 2384 01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:38,600 circumvented the NES is like 5 game a year limit by creating 2385 01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:40,560 ultra ultra games or whatever it is. 2386 01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:44,480 Like there's weird shit like that like just on the NES. 2387 01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,680 So I wouldn't be surprised if there was something weird that 2388 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,440 happened here. So like, I feel like this game, 2389 01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:53,160 yeah, it's half baked from like, once again, from my outsider's 2390 01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,680 perspective, but I feel like it looks pretty half baked. 2391 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,240 But I, I, I honestly, it feels like it just because of the 2392 01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:02,240 chaotic, what I would assume would have been a chaotic, 2393 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,520 excuse me, development period between all the business stuff 2394 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,320 behind the scenes and then having to reconcile all that in 2395 01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,280 the game in under a year while still trying to figure out the 2396 01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:15,160 fallout from like, how how long do you think they had to hold on 2397 01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:17,320 developing the game even after the sale? 2398 01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,320 Right? Like if it happened like a year 2399 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:22,320 before it was released, if the sale happened a year before this 2400 01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:26,640 game came out, like does that mean they were actively working 2401 01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:29,960 for the full year or were they in a holding pattern until they 2402 01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:31,800 could figure out rights? So the. 2403 01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:33,880 Game was in development for five years. 2404 01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:39,200 It was first announced in 2001, and then the rare the Microsoft 2405 01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,480 sale was what, 2002? 1002. 2406 01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:43,840 Yeah, yeah. So. 2407 01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,480 Oh, so it only happened a year into development? 2408 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,800 They had four extra years. Yeah, basically so. 2409 01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:52,120 Yeah, it could have been. A case of they, well, and think 2410 01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:54,960 about it, they were also working on Grunny's Revenge 'cause that 2411 01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:58,800 came out before this as well. So, you know, that was my 2412 01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:00,000 theory. It could have been a case of 2413 01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:03,520 they were just juggling a bunch of products and Microsoft was 2414 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,320 like not sure which ones to prioritize. 2415 01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:08,080 They were also porting all the Donkey Kong games to GBA at the 2416 01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,560 same time too, like that. That was a big thing. 2417 01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:11,560 They are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2418 01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:15,040 They're great. So I just, I just saw this on 2419 01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:18,000 on. Take it for a grain of salt on 2420 01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,600 the Wikipedia entry for it. Yes, but it says the soundtrack 2421 01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:26,240 was composed by Robin Beamland of Rare fame and Jamie Hughes, 2422 01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:30,840 and it was unaltered as Rare was unable to implement new music. 2423 01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:32,400 Yeah, OK. By the time it was released. 2424 01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:34,200 Yeah, so there you go. No, I, I. 2425 01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:35,960 Believe that? Throwback to that, Yeah. 2426 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:40,440 Makes sense cuz cuz they're credited in the game and if you 2427 01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,000 go to the mobi games for Banjo pilot they're right there so 2428 01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,280 yeah. Yeah, one of the one of the 2429 01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:49,440 interesting things too that I don't know which one you guys 2430 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:53,520 mentioned using the accelerometer tilt ometer thing 2431 01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:56,360 for the GBA a little while ago earlier in the episode. 2432 01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:58,960 For warrior were twisted. That's what it was so. 2433 01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,000 Yeah, it has a gyroscope in it. Gyroscope. 2434 01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,480 That's it. So Diddy Kong pilot was also 2435 01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:05,080 supposed to have that. That was supposed to be one of 2436 01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:07,960 the ways that they were trying to make that could have been 2437 01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:09,200 kind of cool. Yeah. 2438 01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,480 I feel like there's something about using the D pad on the GBA 2439 01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:15,600 'cause this is the one that I played on the GBA and not on 2440 01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:20,320 with my Xbox controller. Essentially it's what I play. 2441 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:22,360 Corn teaser vendor. I mean, it's just the D pads or 2442 01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:26,760 whatever, but but the but the D pad almost really throws you 2443 01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:29,960 around the screen a lot more and on a pretty small screen as 2444 01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:31,640 well. So I felt like that is part of 2445 01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:34,600 the issue this game ran into. If you could tilt it, depending 2446 01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:39,200 on how accurate it was, I think maybe that would have actually 2447 01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:42,880 helped with some of the control. You know, say what you will 2448 01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,560 about the excessive motion controls in some games for we or 2449 01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,680 we you that may or may not have worked, but in this I don't 2450 01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,560 know. I I haven't played one of those 2451 01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:55,320 on the GBA before because there's there's a very few of 2452 01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:56,520 them. There's a Kirby game I think as 2453 01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,360 well that has a. Kirby Tilts and Tumble, you're 2454 01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,640 giving me, you're giving me mad flashbacks to Kirby Tilts and 2455 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,400 Tumble. Because when I did play that on 2456 01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:10,360 my GBA SP, OK, once we transition from single screen, 2457 01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,280 you know, not a flip, OK. But when you have a game like 2458 01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:16,840 Kirby Tilts and Tumble, where there's a mechanic of launching 2459 01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,360 Kirby in the air by going like this, what happens? 2460 01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,120 The screen flips. The screen flips. 2461 01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:24,520 They're gonna say you hit something in the face. 2462 01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,360 You flip it back and forth, you're like really working that 2463 01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:31,440 hinge. It's like, and it didn't fix it. 2464 01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:34,120 You know, DS, same thing, same thing. 2465 01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:39,280 So like any I I'm not a huge, I'm not a huge gyro fan. 2466 01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:41,920 What what's cool with What's cool with tilt and tumble? 2467 01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:45,640 On the NSO version you can use the the gyroscope to control it. 2468 01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:47,440 Yeah, that's true. Cool. 2469 01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:50,680 Oh, I should try that. Remember, it's worth, it's worth 2470 01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:51,680 playing it that way. Yeah. 2471 01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:52,760 And. Then it's like. 2472 01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,520 Portable I think even if you do the the joy cons and the little 2473 01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,680 grips you can do. It that way, that's a pro 2474 01:59:57,680 --> 01:59:59,360 controller, that's fun, that's that's good. 2475 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:02,680 Yeah, yeah, it's a fun game. Yeah, I, I, I like those. 2476 02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:04,880 I like how Kirby does a lot of different stuff. 2477 02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,360 So I'm I'm happy. Kirby handles gimmicks really 2478 02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:08,680 well. Yes, yes. 2479 02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:12,120 That's what Kirby has really, actually turned into, is that 2480 02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:15,640 that's really what it's should kind of be known for in in a lot 2481 02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:17,960 of ways. But but if you see like 2482 02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:19,840 Forgotten land, they can still make a really. 2483 02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,080 Good like Oh my God, I solid Kirby game. 2484 02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:26,480 I just played that two months ago at a friend's place. 2485 02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,320 He got it for his for his son who just got a switch like his 2486 02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:31,680 for his game system is a switch and he's like 8 years old or 2487 02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:32,840 whatever. There you go, tilt and tumble. 2488 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:35,240 Also, like, the coolest game cartridge ever, Yeah. 2489 02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:38,480 That's nice looking and man I love my forgotten world is 2490 02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,120 fucking good holy shit. It's my favorite. 2491 02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,200 It's my favorite Kirby. Game I gotta you know what when 2492 02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:48,240 or if let's be honest, when I get a switch to that's gonna be 2493 02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:52,640 one of the games that I wanna get for it I'm just gonna play 2494 02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:55,240 it on that but man it was fun. I played it. 2495 02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:57,560 I don't know we were passing the controller around like oh your 2496 02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,000 turn my turn whatever for like an hour and I'm like this is 2497 02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:01,080 fantastic. This is. 2498 02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,240 Really 100% of it and it was worth it. 2499 02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:04,800 Yeah, it yeah, it's a great time. 2500 02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:08,280 It looks great. So Banjo Pilot, give it a shot 2501 02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,200 if you want. I don't know if you're going to 2502 02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:13,480 really get more than a couple hours out of it, but if you want 2503 02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:16,000 to play something like this, you can easily just go to the 64 and 2504 02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,520 play that instead. Or there's other racers, as 2505 02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:22,920 we've discussed on the GBA, that yeah, they're not prop planes, 2506 02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:25,760 but they're probably turbulent, but they're probably better than 2507 02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:27,240 this, yeah. If. 2508 02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:30,520 You if you play this game for half an hour, you'll be good. 2509 02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:32,640 Yeah, you'll get the gist of it. That's true. 2510 02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:34,520 Yeah, that's true. I was gonna say, listen, we we 2511 02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,440 got here, we didn't, we haven't talked about the GBA very often. 2512 02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:40,040 So this obviously it's an N64 podcast. 2513 02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:43,200 The fact we talked about the GBA, we went on these, we went 2514 02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:46,320 on these little side tangents, OK, to talk about different 2515 02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:48,280 games we like different mechanics, different things, 2516 02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,560 like all about the GBA, like fantastic. 2517 02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:56,000 But I think that speaks to the quality of these two games that 2518 02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,080 we went on these tangents talking about other games we 2519 02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:01,280 liked more or different mechanics we liked more. 2520 02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:04,240 We're like these games were almost something we liked. 2521 02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:06,960 At least Grunty's Revenge was a little more positive. 2522 02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:09,840 But you know, there's something there. 2523 02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:14,240 But we definitely think there's a lot better titles on the Game 2524 02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:15,760 Boy Advance. I don't know. 2525 02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,360 That's, that's what I'm getting from this. 2526 02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:18,320 I I. Think so. 2527 02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:20,040 That's part of. It, I think it, I think it's 2528 02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:23,560 like if this represents like the middle of the road for the GBA, 2529 02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:27,520 that means you have so much more great stuff to go off. 2530 02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:30,360 Like it has a really deep library of games. 2531 02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:33,320 And a lot of when I was like, exploring it and playing all 2532 02:02:33,320 --> 02:02:36,480 these random games, like so many of them surprised me at how well 2533 02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:38,920 they were made and just how fun they were. 2534 02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:41,520 Because it felt like by this point, most people had figured 2535 02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:44,440 out how to do 2D games and make 2D games that were really great. 2536 02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:48,920 And the GBA is just jam packed with amazing games. 2537 02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:51,000 Yeah. Huge library, huge library. 2538 02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:57,920 And also I went from having the original Game Boy to the color 2539 02:02:57,920 --> 02:03:00,480 to this. All my games played on it and 2540 02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:02,040 like as a kid. That's cool that. 2541 02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:04,040 Was awesome and I also loved like. 2542 02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:09,040 I played the first Wario game a ton growing up. 2543 02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:12,480 I love that game so much. It is amazing now. 2544 02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:14,240 No, but I have a lot of nostalgia for it. 2545 02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:17,160 Little things where you could just like switch the color 2546 02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:20,240 palette or shades or whatever they call them on it. 2547 02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:23,520 I had a couple of favorites that I always went to, like that kind 2548 02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:26,200 of stuff was it's just cool to have that option, you know? 2549 02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:29,000 I have a lot of respect for the Wario Land series. 2550 02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:31,240 Yeah, yeah, the first two. Nintendo. 2551 02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:34,840 It's Nintendo being unique and actually genuinely 2552 02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:37,520 experimenting, which is something that they do less and 2553 02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:40,800 less of the further we get into them, you know? 2554 02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:43,440 Absolutely around that. Time and Wario Land 4 and Wario 2555 02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:45,480 Land 4 is one of the best. It's. 2556 02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:47,680 Fantastic on that, on that console so. 2557 02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:49,160 Yeah, it's really, really good. Yeah. 2558 02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,480 And they're doing something weird, which like you said, is 2559 02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:55,480 not something they're really known for at the at this moment 2560 02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:57,760 anyway, right now. Especially as weird as like 2561 02:03:57,760 --> 02:03:59,400 Wario Land. Yeah, like. 2562 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:01,920 Yeah, like some of the things they do in those games feels 2563 02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:04,960 very UN Nintendo. And it gets weirder as they go 2564 02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,080 along, I think, you know, like they really do. 2565 02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:10,400 They should be crazy with it. Yeah, and after and after trying 2566 02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,640 to play, say, Super Mario Brothers Wonder and being kind 2567 02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:15,520 of underwhelmed by it, I'm like, Nintendo should just go back to 2568 02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,320 Wario Land. Like, let them do that. 2569 02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:19,320 Wacky. They should anyways, whether 2570 02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:22,080 whether that game was a huge hit and people loved it or not, like 2571 02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,560 Wonder or whatever, like whatever it is, I think they 2572 02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:27,520 they should make another, yeah, another Wario game for sure, 2573 02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:29,960 yeah. Too many Wario wares, I know. 2574 02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:32,360 We've had enough warrior wear. I want warrior land. 2575 02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:36,040 Yeah, A. 100% I miss those yeah and and 2D make it 2D just like 2576 02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:39,560 wonder was I'm I'm all. For it or Warrior World 2. 2577 02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:44,000 Yeah. I've talked about Warrior World 2578 02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:45,360 before. I don't, I'm not. 2579 02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,120 It's a fine game, but it's it's it's own beast. 2580 02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:54,480 Wario himself and those games themselves are their own beast, 2581 02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:55,800 and that's why we want to see more. 2582 02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:58,640 OK, so there's the. Waluigi Game. 2583 02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:01,400 Oh my God, maybe that's what Waluigi. 2584 02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:03,440 We're. We're sitting here just a 2585 02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:04,720 couple. We're sitting here just a couple 2586 02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:06,200 days before the Switch to announcement. 2587 02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:08,840 This will be coming out far after that, but maybe there'll 2588 02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:13,240 be a Waluigi game. Oh, never mind. 2589 02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:14,440 Mario that Luigi. Pinball. 2590 02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:16,520 Just do Waluigi pinball. Dude. 2591 02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:19,160 Why not? Do it, do it. 2592 02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:22,400 Pokémon pimple game. Either that or we get AGTA clone 2593 02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:24,520 with Waluigi. Yes. 2594 02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:28,440 Which is all I've ever wanted. It's all we all. 2595 02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:31,920 It's all any of us really need. It's GTA 6, but you're Waluigi. 2596 02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,920 But you're Waluigi. Yeah, they beat Rockstar to it. 2597 02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:40,160 Thank God. OK, So before we get out of 2598 02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:41,840 here, Josh, we'll start with you first. 2599 02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:46,120 Where can everybody find still loading and this Will, yeah, I 2600 02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:48,400 know we're doing this a lot, a lot earlier than it's actually 2601 02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:51,440 coming out. But April and May, what's what's 2602 02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:53,400 on tap? If you do know that far ahead? 2603 02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:56,920 Actually, yeah, I do know. I I've planned out. 2604 02:05:57,240 --> 02:05:59,000 I planned out my stuff way too far in advance. 2605 02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:01,160 April is Punch a Nazi month over. 2606 02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:03,800 It's still loading for no topical reason whatsoever. 2607 02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:08,240 We got games being covered or were covered by the time this 2608 02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:10,880 comes out. Wolfenstein 3D Medal of Honor 2609 02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:15,080 Underground with Dave over here, Dave truly over here and then 2610 02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,400 wrapping it up with Bionic Commando. 2611 02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:21,840 Let's see what else do I have? I think that's pretty much the 2612 02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:25,240 big thing that I had going on at the time in April and also 2613 02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:28,480 depending on when this comes out, Thrax Co host over at the 2614 02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:31,560 3D O Experience Bill is going to be on to talk about infamous. 2615 02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:34,720 Oh, nice, nice. Shout out Bill. 2616 02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:36,640 Nice. And then March was the. 2617 02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:38,640 Hardest working man in podcasting is Bill. 2618 02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:44,680 Honestly, holy no kidding. Like making us all look bad, but 2619 02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:45,920 in a good way. But in a good way. 2620 02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:48,600 I try, I asked to help all the time and he's like I'm good. 2621 02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:53,440 I try. It dry and that's that's a still 2622 02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:55,560 loading podcast. You can find it all across your 2623 02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:58,720 podcast feeds and everything. Still loading pod on most social 2624 02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:02,360 media, Most active on Blue Sky and Instagram More on Blue Sky 2625 02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:06,520 and yeah at still loading pod at all those at all those 2626 02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:08,680 locations. Also, just cuz I I don't 2627 02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:11,480 normally shout this out cuz it is like money thing, but just 2628 02:07:11,480 --> 02:07:12,760 cuz I've been really enjoying it. 2629 02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:16,920 I do at on my Patreon for at the $5 level. 2630 02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:20,360 I have a monthly movie podcast which I do some still loading 2631 02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:23,800 pun based off whatever movie series I'm to covering right 2632 02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:25,280 now. It's the fast and furious 2633 02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:26,880 franchise. So it's still family. 2634 02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:32,760 And so it's all all the guests who join me aren't just friends, 2635 02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:34,560 they're family. We're going through all the Fast 2636 02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,760 and Furious movies. And I think if this is out in 2637 02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:42,680 May, then the movie that we'll be covering in May is the 6th 1. 2638 02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:45,480 So we're already we're already over halfway through the series 2639 02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:47,480 by the by the time. Well, about halfway through the. 2640 02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:49,360 Series. That one's fast 6, right? 2641 02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:50,720 That's when they started. Like, you know, it's. 2642 02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:55,040 Like half the title. No Fast 5 Fast and Furious 6 2643 02:07:55,040 --> 02:08:00,000 Furious 7 That's right, the fate of the Furious is the 8th 1 The 2644 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,960 fate a fate of the Furious is the. 2645 02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:05,880 They they pulled it off there, but they didn't pull it off with 2646 02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,800 with anyways. Yeah, I'm waiting for I'm 2647 02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:11,840 waiting for Fast and Furious. I'm waiting for Fast and Furious 2648 02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:14,880 2 Turbo HD Ultra Mix. And the challengers? 2649 02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:18,160 I mean it, it would be Fast and Furious presents because that's 2650 02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:20,760 what Hobbs and Shaw is the offshoot 1 Fast and Furious 2651 02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,440 presents. That's the title. 2652 02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:26,920 Fast and Furious presents Hobbs and Shaw and then the final one 2653 02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:30,760 is Fast X for the 10th 1 and obviously there's a Part 2 2654 02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:33,040 coming out later on. They still focus on cars. 2655 02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:34,560 Are they just generic action Movies Now? 2656 02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:38,680 They are car. Weren't they always, though? 2657 02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:40,560 So here's. No, the early. 2658 02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:42,760 Ones do early on. Car culture, the first, the 2659 02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:46,120 first, like three. Yeah, here's the weird thing for 2660 02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:47,920 stuff. The answer to both of those 2661 02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,560 questions is yes. Yeah. 2662 02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:52,960 Yeah. Because does it focus on cars? 2663 02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:54,320 Yes. Is it car culture? 2664 02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:57,960 Not so much anymore, more as cars as an extension of their 2665 02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:01,560 bodies, the. Like trans prime. 2666 02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:05,680 Prime example of this without going too far into the weeds, in 2667 02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:10,400 Furious 7 there is a scene where one of the characters is like 2668 02:09:10,640 --> 02:09:13,880 launched off like they're they got launched off of a like. 2669 02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:17,240 I forget exactly how, but they they're they fly out out of the 2670 02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:20,960 car they're on and they're go about to go all over a Cliff 2671 02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:22,920 side right. There's a luckily one of their 2672 02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:25,800 friends is right behind them in their own car. 2673 02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:29,600 And instead of like stopping and getting out and rushing over to 2674 02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:32,600 help them because they would have had time to do that, they 2675 02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:35,280 drive over there. They drive over with their car 2676 02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:39,640 and they whip the tail the back end of the car around. 2677 02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:43,640 So just the rear 2 tires go off the edge of the Cliff. 2678 02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:45,680 And since they're going fast enough, they have the momentum 2679 02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:50,480 get back on and the person about to fly over the Cliff catches 2680 02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:53,880 the spoiler on it. So they don't, they don't 2681 02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:57,200 actually use their arms and legs to help their friends. 2682 02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:00,200 They just use their cars as extensions of themselves. 2683 02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:03,560 Like remember they didn't grab them with their hands, they grab 2684 02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:05,800 them with their car. And that is? 2685 02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:10,880 Spoiler of their car. The spoiler of their car so 2686 02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:13,360 yeah, the. And for anyone who has not 2687 02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:16,760 watches movies, if you like action movies, I always tell 2688 02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:20,040 people watch the fifth one. If you don't enjoy the fifth 2689 02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:22,960 one, you're not going to like the where the series goes from 2690 02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:26,240 there. If if the fifth one is like too 2691 02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:30,080 insane and over the top for you, don't bother watching the rest 2692 02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,040 because they don't tone it down at all. 2693 02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:33,640 They just get more. Done gets worse. 2694 02:10:33,720 --> 02:10:36,880 And go to space with duct tape. I love it, but it's. 2695 02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:38,080 Done. I think I need to start watching 2696 02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:39,960 these Movies Now. They're great. 2697 02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:42,360 They're very entertaining, I will say that. 2698 02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:45,040 Like I've watched the later, like the recent releases and I'm 2699 02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,440 always like, I had fun watching this. 2700 02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:49,360 It was so ridiculous. It's amazing. 2701 02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:52,320 And Vin Diesel is basically indestructible for some reason. 2702 02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:56,240 Wow, it just runs 90? Percent just gets shotgun 2703 02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:58,960 blasted in the face. He's like need to face when you 2704 02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,440 got family. There is. 2705 02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:04,040 See, I've been watching a lot of Star Trek recently, so this is 2706 02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:05,920 like the complete opposite. Yeah, if. 2707 02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:09,600 You if you want something that so Star Trek actually has like 2708 02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:11,720 messages and actually has intelligence. 2709 02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:14,120 Ethics and morals and all that, yeah. 2710 02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:16,520 I mean there's ethics and beautiful one. 2711 02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:18,920 One of the weird this is like, oh man, I gotta stop. 2712 02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:22,640 I could go off on a tangent. What I will say is. 2713 02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:24,640 You should make me watch one of these and come on your show and 2714 02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:26,080 I'll be like, what the? Fuck is happening? 2715 02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:28,840 What did you just do to me? Would you make me watch? 2716 02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:33,840 I love it but I'm so confused. The the The funny thing is, is 2717 02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:37,720 that like they just get more and more like how can I put this? 2718 02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:41,840 They do get more and more over the top and more and more silly, 2719 02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:44,600 but you just can't help but enjoy it there. 2720 02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:47,360 There is, there's, there's so much, there was something that 2721 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:48,600 Jiggy said that sparked something. 2722 02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:51,560 And now I'm, I've already lost this, my train of thought in the 2723 02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:52,960 thread of what I was going to say. 2724 02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:55,600 So I'm gonna, if I remember it, I'll jump back in here. 2725 02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:57,480 Otherwise I'll jump back in. Otherwise, I'm just going to 2726 02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:00,720 continue to ramble. But yeah, if you don't like the 2727 02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:03,280 fifth one, don't bother with the rest because they get more and 2728 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:06,480 more insane over time. And I actually always encourage 2729 02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:08,920 people to watch them in order because believe it or not, 2730 02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:13,560 there's a really dumb plot line between overarching plot line as 2731 02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:16,960 the movies go on. But it makes it much more fun if 2732 02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:20,360 you watch them in the order they came out and you'll see why 2733 02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:23,520 that's like, normally I wouldn't say that's important, but like 2734 02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:25,680 it it, it's just dumb, silly fun. 2735 02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:28,600 And I love them and they're just, they're silly. 2736 02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,720 Oh, I remember what I was going to say is we were talking about 2737 02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:34,600 like with Star Trek, how it's all, you know, there's these 2738 02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:38,120 very like it's trying to say something and have more like 2739 02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:42,560 these deep morals. The Fast and Furious movies they 2740 02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:45,440 have, like they actually have a really good like familial like, 2741 02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:47,760 you know, like you how you are supposed to treat your friends 2742 02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:50,000 and have each others backs and like you call each other like 2743 02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:51,800 that type of stuff. It actually does a pretty good 2744 02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:55,320 job at that, but it has a lot of line deliveries where they they 2745 02:12:55,320 --> 02:13:00,800 think they're saying something like badass or deep, but it's 2746 02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:03,000 not and it doesn't make any fucking sense. 2747 02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:06,400 It's like pseudo intellectual or bro intellectual. 2748 02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:08,280 It's. Lower than that it's but like. 2749 02:13:08,440 --> 02:13:10,680 Don't eat that chicken, you'll have raging diarrhea. 2750 02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:13,080 I don't need diarrhea. I got family. 2751 02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:16,400 It's like. The diarrhea is my family. 2752 02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:20,080 My my favorite line, my favorite example of this is in this in 2753 02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:25,640 the 7th movie. He this is a mild spoiler. 2754 02:13:25,640 --> 02:13:28,240 Vin Diesel and another character who I will not name just for 2755 02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:30,640 those who have not seen it just because it's it's it's a fun 2756 02:13:30,640 --> 02:13:32,800 character. They are playing chicken with 2757 02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:34,520 their cars. So they're driving head first at 2758 02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:38,440 each other. Neither of them yield and they 2759 02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:43,520 slam into each other, arguably going 90 miles an hour minimum, 2760 02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:47,160 right slam into each other. Neither of them are wearing 2761 02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:50,680 seatbelts, but they don't fly out of the cars for physics. 2762 02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:54,480 I don't understand. They get out Vin Diesel looks at 2763 02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:57,360 the dudes car and sees that he like reinforced it, right? 2764 02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:00,480 Like he he he aligned it with like metal rods and steel and 2765 02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:03,640 whatnot and he looks at it and he's like you reinforced your 2766 02:14:03,640 --> 02:14:06,120 chassis. It's like going into a ring with 2767 02:14:06,120 --> 02:14:13,040 weighted gloves and meaning meaning that you cheated at this 2768 02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:16,040 thing we do well, you know, like weighted gloves is cheating in 2769 02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:18,640 boxing. So he's accusing this person of 2770 02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:22,520 cheating at driving into each other with our cars. 2771 02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:30,080 And then they say, what is it? They say the guys like, you 2772 02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:32,360 know, I've, you know, I, I didn't grow up on the streets. 2773 02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:33,960 You did. I grew up on me, you know, like 2774 02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:36,440 me in the streets and you did. I'm not here to play games. 2775 02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:39,640 And he he has a library like, well, that's the thing about 2776 02:14:39,640 --> 02:14:42,480 street fights. The street always wins. 2777 02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:47,160 I don't know what the fuck that means, I don't understand it and 2778 02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:49,080 I love every time it's delivered. 2779 02:14:49,480 --> 02:14:51,560 Inject more of that into my veins. 2780 02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:56,360 Thank you and and rant. That's patreon.com/the little 2781 02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:58,840 wing pop I need. To watch, I need to watch these 2782 02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:00,360 movies. It's incredible. 2783 02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:04,240 So I watched the first 3 and they were they were pretty good. 2784 02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:07,880 The first one is just point break with cars. 2785 02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:13,640 The second one is like is like early 2000s like action romp it 2786 02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:16,480 it's very. There's the Drift is really 2787 02:15:16,480 --> 02:15:18,360 cool. I took a rewatch it but I 2788 02:15:18,360 --> 02:15:21,320 remember really liking it. It it sticks out because it 2789 02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,880 feels like it's more focused on the cars than the other ones. 2790 02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:28,600 Yeah, the 4th 1 is kind of like sets the formula for what it 2791 02:15:28,600 --> 02:15:31,080 will be, but it's a lot more serious. 2792 02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:34,360 Excuse me, that one's just called Fast and Furious. 2793 02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:37,800 Yeah, the first one is The Fast and the Furious. 2794 02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:40,520 Yeah, it's the Fast and the Furious and the fourth one, the 2795 02:15:40,520 --> 02:15:44,000 4th 1 is just fast and furious and then the fifth one is Fast 5 2796 02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:46,600 and it goes off from there. But I I've already rambled and 2797 02:15:46,600 --> 02:15:50,000 ranted too much so. But yeah, patreon.com/still 2798 02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:53,480 loading pod still loading 5. Thrac what you up to buddy? 2799 02:15:54,920 --> 02:15:59,360 So as you guys are we, I'm a part of the Super Pod network. 2800 02:15:59,360 --> 02:16:02,240 So you know, my show, the 3D podcast is on that. 2801 02:16:02,440 --> 02:16:05,600 So be sure to check that out. At this point, I don't know what 2802 02:16:05,800 --> 02:16:08,280 we just we just kind of fly by the seat of our pants on that 2803 02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:11,560 one. And I also occasionally do blogs 2804 02:16:11,720 --> 02:16:14,400 on the Super Pod. The most recent one as of this 2805 02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:17,720 recording was mine on Medal of Honor, the first one for the 2806 02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:20,560 PS1. So you should go read that if 2807 02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:22,200 you're interested in punching Nazis. 2808 02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:26,080 Outside of that, you can follow me on Blue Sky at Thrac. 2809 02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:33,040 I'm on Instagram at Thrac 94 and see other things I'm doing. 2810 02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:37,200 I'm currently doing a a big long series with Chris from a novel 2811 02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,040 console about the Metal Gear series. 2812 02:16:39,440 --> 02:16:42,799 So hopefully by the time this is out, the first episode will be 2813 02:16:42,799 --> 02:16:45,680 out and we'll probably be working on the second one. 2814 02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:49,920 Who knows, Timing on that may be a little iffy, but but yeah, 2815 02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:53,280 that that's, that's just what I do, yeah. 2816 02:16:53,559 --> 02:16:55,120 Amazing. Thanks for having me. 2817 02:16:55,680 --> 02:16:57,120 Of course man, this has been awesome. 2818 02:16:57,400 --> 02:16:58,920 And you will. And you will be back, whether 2819 02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:01,799 you like it or not. Well, well, we're doing that. 2820 02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:03,320 That Army men thing that's. Right. 2821 02:17:03,320 --> 02:17:04,959 Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I. 2822 02:17:05,160 --> 02:17:08,280 Cannot wait. Jiggy, what about you, buddy? 2823 02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:13,160 How's how's things? Things are going great, YouTube 2824 02:17:13,160 --> 02:17:16,480 stuff in the works. I actually just dropped a kind 2825 02:17:16,480 --> 02:17:20,959 of a people joked it was like a a jiggy look back direct. 2826 02:17:21,959 --> 02:17:24,400 I dropped like a little image that said coming soon of just 2827 02:17:24,400 --> 02:17:26,480 all the different videos I've been working on because I've 2828 02:17:26,480 --> 02:17:31,320 been not pumping out content as regularly as I normally would. 2829 02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:33,040 But I've got so many things going on. 2830 02:17:33,559 --> 02:17:36,920 I'm gonna be streaming Quest 64, which I've never played before. 2831 02:17:36,920 --> 02:17:37,680 Oh. Yeah, yeah. 2832 02:17:37,879 --> 02:17:40,600 So I shout out to our boy quest, Yeah. 2833 02:17:40,799 --> 02:17:44,680 Yes, so I'm I'm hopping on Friday and gonna start streaming 2834 02:17:44,680 --> 02:17:48,840 that every Friday as long as it takes to to beat this game. 2835 02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:54,600 It's gonna be fantastic. I've got a mysteries of Pikmin 2836 02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:58,000 on GameCube video coming out working on that. 2837 02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:02,000 I also have a mysteries of Ape Escape for PS1. 2838 02:18:02,639 --> 02:18:07,040 And then I have two wandering worlds, which is a game where I 2839 02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:11,200 use a camera tool and go through it's kind of reverse boundary 2840 02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:12,799 break. I like boundary break. 2841 02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:15,680 Boundary break looks on the outside and like what's off 2842 02:18:15,680 --> 02:18:16,920 screen? What can we not see? 2843 02:18:16,920 --> 02:18:20,120 And I'm like, let's hyper zoom in on these textures and see 2844 02:18:20,120 --> 02:18:23,440 like any small details, see if there's anything weird, you 2845 02:18:23,440 --> 02:18:25,320 know? And it's pretty cool sometimes 2846 02:18:25,320 --> 02:18:26,760 what you can find, you don't expect it. 2847 02:18:26,760 --> 02:18:29,440 So I'm doing one for Smash Brothers Melee that's a 2848 02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:32,680 collaboration with another YouTube, and one for Banjo 2849 02:18:32,680 --> 02:18:36,000 Tooie, which I'm really excited about, and that one's taking 2850 02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:37,320 forever because the world's are huge. 2851 02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:41,440 And then, yeah. I have a surprise video that I'm 2852 02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:44,160 not announcing yet, but it's gonna be legit and it's gonna 2853 02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:47,240 have a really cool update from me about a project. 2854 02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:51,719 So that'll come at some point, but it's super excited. 2855 02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:55,840 Nice man. And then As for the show itself, 2856 02:18:55,840 --> 02:18:58,879 we normally obviously cover the N64. 2857 02:18:58,879 --> 02:19:02,719 So that's remember 64 show across show, show media, which 2858 02:19:02,719 --> 02:19:06,200 at this point, similar to what the other fellas have said is 2859 02:19:06,200 --> 02:19:07,719 Blue sky and Instagram at this point. 2860 02:19:07,719 --> 02:19:11,840 And, and also if you want to watch these episodes or if you 2861 02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:14,799 want to watch the other videos that I put up every once in a 2862 02:19:14,799 --> 02:19:17,959 while when I have a few minutes to make something silly or put 2863 02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:20,280 out some gameplay videos and things like that, that's on 2864 02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:23,240 YouTube. And you can subscribe to that to 2865 02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:25,840 get an idea of every once in a while when I have inconsistent 2866 02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:29,879 times to stream games, I don't have that time available to me 2867 02:19:29,879 --> 02:19:32,879 as much as I'd like to. Jiggy has a schedule and you 2868 02:19:32,920 --> 02:19:34,959 should check out him playing the games like he just mentioned. 2869 02:19:34,959 --> 02:19:38,000 So, but if you subscribe, you'll get that little notification of 2870 02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:40,240 when I go live and I'll play games like Grunty's Revenge, 2871 02:19:40,240 --> 02:19:42,639 which I streamed and sometimes just random stuff they have in 2872 02:19:42,639 --> 02:19:45,080 my backlog that I'm playing through on Game Pass or 2873 02:19:45,080 --> 02:19:47,120 something like that. Just to sort of sit down and 2874 02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:50,440 share my time with the games. That is remember 64 on YouTube 2875 02:19:50,440 --> 02:19:53,960 and on patreonpatreon.com/remember 64 2876 02:19:53,960 --> 02:19:56,440 show. You can get every single episode 2877 02:19:56,440 --> 02:19:59,640 early, sometimes even weeks ahead of time because ones like 2878 02:19:59,640 --> 02:20:04,240 this are recorded very early and why not share them to those that 2879 02:20:04,240 --> 02:20:06,640 are patrons? You can also get pre show chats. 2880 02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:10,080 You can get some other episodes that I'm trying to do again. 2881 02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:12,880 Time is tricky sometimes, but other games I'm playing away 2882 02:20:12,880 --> 02:20:15,960 from the 64, those would be the little mini audio recordings and 2883 02:20:15,960 --> 02:20:17,600 ramblings. I put up a couple of those 2884 02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:22,240 recently as well. And also, yeah, I guess give us 2885 02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:25,960 a rating on your podcast app of choice as as we always want 2886 02:20:25,960 --> 02:20:28,880 everybody to do, to help us get found even further. 2887 02:20:28,880 --> 02:20:34,720 And oh, and then one thing I meant to mention, I think I I'm 2888 02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:36,280 going to put a little thing at the beginning of the episode, 2889 02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:37,280 but I have a new thing that I'm doing. 2890 02:20:37,280 --> 02:20:39,400 I want to hear more from people that are watching and listening. 2891 02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:43,840 It's called Voicecast and then you can name it after us. 2892 02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:48,360 Ours is obviously remember 64, so Voicecasta remember 64. 2893 02:20:48,360 --> 02:20:51,560 You can leave a voice message about what you think of the 2894 02:20:51,560 --> 02:20:54,600 show, what you think of episodes, games that we've 2895 02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:56,840 played, games that are coming up that you want to share your 2896 02:20:56,840 --> 02:20:59,080 thoughts on. So you can check social media to 2897 02:20:59,080 --> 02:21:01,200 see sort of, you know, what games might be coming up. 2898 02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:04,520 And you can say, hey, I played this game or, and I love it or I 2899 02:21:04,520 --> 02:21:06,240 hate it or why would you cover this? 2900 02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:08,360 It's trash. Whatever, you guys are trash. 2901 02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:09,600 I don't care. Tell us what you think. 2902 02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:14,160 It could be anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes of a 2903 02:21:14,160 --> 02:21:15,800 message. Make it a little shorter. 2904 02:21:15,800 --> 02:21:18,880 It's easier to play on the show. And then we'll have that message 2905 02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:21,160 say who you are, where you're from, and we'll play the message 2906 02:21:21,160 --> 02:21:24,480 on the show and we'll we'll have that included in our recordings, 2907 02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:26,080 which is what I want to do going forward. 2908 02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:30,280 So that is voice cast dot app slash remember 64 and it is 2909 02:21:30,560 --> 02:21:33,680 completely free. You can also find that link in 2910 02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:36,720 the show notes and also across social media as well. 2911 02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:39,680 So that's it. Everybody is completely free. 2912 02:21:39,880 --> 02:21:41,520 What's that? You know what else is 2913 02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:42,120 completely? Free. 2914 02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:43,040 No. What is it, Jiggy? 2915 02:21:43,880 --> 02:21:47,480 Creating this podcast. That's right, right? 2916 02:21:47,480 --> 02:21:49,640 Yeah. Is it, is it free? 2917 02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:52,280 It it doesn't cost any money to give it five stars. 2918 02:21:52,280 --> 02:21:54,280 So there you go. That's right, At least not yet. 2919 02:21:54,720 --> 02:21:55,880 Not. Yet not yet. 2920 02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:58,080 Smoke them while you got them. Five stars. 2921 02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:00,800 Smoke them while you got them kids. 2922 02:22:01,800 --> 02:22:05,040 And yeah, so we'll see you next time on the show. 2923 02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:08,800 Banjo Kazooie is out there. At this point. 2924 02:22:09,200 --> 02:22:12,800 We have Rayman 2 where Josh was on getting back into the swing 2925 02:22:12,800 --> 02:22:14,680 of things in 2025 has been awesome. 2926 02:22:15,320 --> 02:22:18,560 I I guess almost every episode to start the year, which has 2927 02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:21,440 been great and more to come throughout the rest of the year. 2928 02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:23,720 So stay tuned. Thanks everyone for listening 2929 02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:27,360 and talking some GBA with us. Thanks guys for joining me. 2930 02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:29,480 We will see everybody soon. Goodbye, bye. 2931 02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:56,720 Bye. The.