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We're just approaching Frankton 
Junction on the Lancockland 

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Canal, and that's where the 
Montgomery Canal starts. 

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So in just a few moments, I'll 
be making a right angle turn 

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onto the Monty and mooring up at
the top of Frankton Locks, which

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are the locks that take you down
onto the canal. 

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It's sunny. 
It's also rainy. 

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There's been a very, very vivid 
rainbow off to my left in the 

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past few minutes. 
Welcome to this edition of the 

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Water Rd 
for the Montgomery Canal. 

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Used to run for 33 miles across 
the English Welsh border but 

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fell into disuse following a 
breach in 1936 and was 

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officially abandoned in 1944. 
Since the 1960s though there 

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have been restoration efforts. 
Currently there are 8 navigable 

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miles connected to the main 
system between Frankton Junction

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and Crickheath, and there are 
isolated sections half a mile at

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Lanimanek and 12 miles around 
Welshpool. 

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Right. 
So with Chris, one of the lot 

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keepers at Frankton Locks, but I
gather that you've been involved

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with the Montgomery Canal for 
decades. 

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Oh, it's enough. 
That's a nasty rumour. 

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Terrible, terrible. 
Yeah, Actually I have probably 

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about 196869 when I first 
started to come down here with 

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one of one of my pals who was 
from Shrewsbury. 

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And yeah, we used to come down 
and camp and my dad had been in 

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the RAF, so I got loads of RAF 
Grey paint and we used to paint 

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the balance beam here at the top
of Frankton. 

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And I know for a fact, because 
since then I've spoken to people

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who were working for British 
Waterways, as he was at the 

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time, and saying that he used to
come into work on a Monday and 

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thought, well, let me next 
painted who's been working on 

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Frankton. 
And nobody knew we'd been doing 

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it. 
And it was us. 

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And that was our little bit. 
And it was quite funny because 

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we'd be there on our hands and 
knees. 

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And then I said our callow youth
and innocents say it was true. 

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We're going to restore this 
canal. 

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And people who come along there 
have been living down there all 

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their lives and saying, what you
doing? 

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And we're saying we're restoring
the canal, so yeah, that's never

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going to happen. 
So yeah, five years we'll be 

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through to Welshpool and 55 
years later we're not even a 

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third of the way there. 
So what was it like back then? 

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Then? 
Was the whole canal derelict? 

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Well, derelict in the sense that
it was an abandoned waterway and

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it wasn't being used and, and 
nature had taken over and so it 

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was still a canal and it was 
still a complete canal apart 

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from the bridges that were down.
But, you know, there were areas 

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which were dry. 
But, you know, we could see 

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beyond that as people can today 
and we generally thought we 

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could restore it in five years. 
That's how we felt about it. 

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We were that enthusiastic as 
people are today that five years

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has become something more 
realistic. 

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But it was, it was a, it was a 
canal. 

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The fact there were no boats on 
it and it wasn't busy didn't 

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matter. 
It was still a canal. 

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It was an artery, you know, an 
umbilical cord between villages 

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and towns, Welshpool and and mid
Wales and the rest of the world.

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So what sort of things were you 
doing back then then? 

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Well, we were clearing out 
principally, we all were focused

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on locks clearly, because that 
was something that was practical

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there. 
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paint, clear weeds and whatever.
One particular thing that I 

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remember was Danny Welshpool. 
We were working on a Sunday 

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morning once and this was before
the big dig. 

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My friend and I were down up to 
our top of our wellies in mud. 

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And I do vividly remember a pair
of sort of like toe caps hanging

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over the edge and hearing 
voices. 

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And I heard this voice say it. 
And I said to me, and what are 

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you young chaps doing today? 
You know? 

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And I quick as a flash, using 
the vernacular, I looked up and 

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said, well, we're clearing shit 
actually, but we're enjoying 

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ourselves. 
And there was a bit of a ho ho, 

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yes, ha, ha, hard stuff. 
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it was the Lord Lieutenant of 
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and Prince Charles who was newly
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or patron of the canal. 
So I relate that story now. 

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I said, you didn't say. 
I said, well, we did. 

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And and do you know what I think
he laughed. 

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And I think probably it probably
helps helped him make him sort 

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of passionate as as he is about 
it now still or the king. 

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King is now of course. 
So today then, you're one of the

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lot keepers here at Franklin 
Locks and there is a strict 

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limit on the number of boats 
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Isn't there? 
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I mean the we talk about the 
carrying capacity of this canal.

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The canal can't deal with more 
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because of moorings, because of 
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whole process. 
And so I as a lock keeper have 

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to ensure we lock it up at 
night, top and bottom. 

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But you have to book to go up 
and down and that is simply 

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because of the, the canal cannot
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I mean there's 12 or 15 
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boats down there we've we've 
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operation in one day. 
I mean 24 is the capacity, but 

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we've done 17. 
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7UP and 10 down or whatever. 
So we, we always know how many 

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boats are down there as a lot 
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I mean, one of the things we do 
is with, I have a team about 7 

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or 8 volunteers who we couldn't 
function without. 

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We, we look to make it a safe 
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But, but also we'd like to give 
added value. 

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And quite literally, we, we get 
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And you know, after the half an 
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the, the, the flight here at BOS
Frankton, it's like losing a 

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little friend that's like waving
goodbye. 

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And they really sort of, I will 
see you next year. 

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Bye, bye. 
Because we've given them that 

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bit of information that they 
didn't know about. 

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For instance, at Frankton, 
that's where George Formby used 

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to come and do all his fishing 
at that cottage on the on the on

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the bridge. 
What? 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
To get away from his wife, you 

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know, and up on the hill that 
that hot cottage you see with a 

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clock on it. 
Well, then Dayton used to come 

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and spend all his summers and 
used to right there from there 

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in the 50s. 
And they go, what? 

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Now, that isn't immediately 
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relevant to their experience. 
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at the moment, you've got what 
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8 miles, yes, 8 miles to go and 
it's like everything else, you 

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know you've got to the point at 
the end there and you want to go

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and do something, get a bit 
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And that's what's happening now 
because the next point that 

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people want to get to and we've 
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it's Lani Manok. 
Of course once you get to Lani 

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Manok, if you want, well they go
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So it's very important, it's 
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attracting enthusiastic people 
and and people having an empathy

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with it all, whether it's 
investors or whatever can see 

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that we are making genuine very 
professional sustainable 

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progress in the restoration. 
Because actually that the most 

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recent opening was a couple of 
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And then after that there's a 
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to Animanic. 
That's that's being worked on at

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the moment. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So I, in my humble opinion, I, 
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doable with this, if we are, as 
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Tani Monica within a couple of 
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And that will be such a 
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And I can't, I can't over over 
egg how attractive Tani Monica's

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in itself is. 
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centre's going there and run by 
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So we've got all this energy 
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So with Andrew and you've had 
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Monty, what have you made of it?
It's absolutely beautiful. 

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It's the paradise that is nature
paradise. 

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I mean, it's so quiet compared 
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No comparison. 
It's a shame about the PUBSA 

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shop only opening like Thursday,
Friday, Saturday, Sunday so you 

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if you come down you need to be 
well prepared. 

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But I mean, it's quite a special
canal though, isn't it? 

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Absolutely. 
We'd be right down to the end 

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where they've renewed it. 
Lovely big turning space super 

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down there. 
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this is the place to come. 
Because it's pretty remote, 

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isn't it? 
Oh, can do remote. 

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We've had no Wi-Fi, no fame for 
a couple of three days, which 

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has been heaven. 
So, Pete, you've had a few days 

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on the Monty. 
What have you made of it? 

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It's been very nice, very 
tranquil, very pleasant. 

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It's been a joy. 
So would you recommend it then? 

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Absolutely. 
Yes, definitely. 

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Any favourite bits? 
I very much enjoyed the the last

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bit at Crickheath Wharf and then
walking down to see what the 

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restoration is is up to because.
They've only got a couple of 

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miles actually before it links 
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Haven't. 
They they have, but they've 

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still got a lot of work to do 
and they've done Schoolhouse 

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Bridge, but beyond that it's, 
you know, a lot of work to do. 

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So tantalising though. 
Absolutely, but probably 

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wouldn't, won't won't be 
finished for me to see it. 

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We're mooring at Crick Heath 
Bridge, the current end of the 

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line, but you can walk the 
towpath of the next section and 

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see the current restoration work
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You can see all the different 
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The first part's in water, the 
next bit's lined, then there's a

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cleared section before you get 
to a length where the channel is

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full of trees and bushes. 
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Manek, where the next part is in
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To find out what's happening 
right now, I asked the head of 

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the restoration group for an 
update. 

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Hello, I'm Tom Fulda, 
restoration project manager for 

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the Shropshire Union Canal 
Society. 

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For the last 20 years the focus 
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in Shropshire, working towards 
the previously restored but 

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isolated section at Hanamanuk. 
We call this the Shropshire Gap.

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The navigable section from Welsh
Frampton on the Llangoflan Canal

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now comes as far as Crickheath 
Basin where you moored up. 

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The last project that Society 
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Crickheath was officially opened
in June 2023. 

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The route runs over very 
challenging ground conditions. 

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It's essentially a beat bog and 
required a very technical 

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solution. 
The current project continues on

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from here. 
So from Bridge 85 at Crickheath 

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past the newly rebuilt 
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which is Malthouse Bridge, and 
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We started in 2023 and have 

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already completed 500 metres. 
This included restoring the 

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historic Crickheath Wharf, which
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drawn tramway from a limestone 
quarry a mile and a half away. 

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We've recently relocated our 
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to Schoolhouse Bridge and are 
now working in both directions 

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from there. 
Fortunately the ground 

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conditions are kind of here with
no subsidence, but most of the 

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route has required 
waterproofing. 

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I expect we will be here for 
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then we'll continue on towards 
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We've also just started 
clearance at Winewen beyond 

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Malthouse Bridge. 
Winewen is a large basin and 

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would be the site of the next 
winding hole. 

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So the shop for Gap is 
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So I'm with Roy and we're at the
Lanimanic Canal Wharf. 

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And if I said that right? 
That's right, yeah. 

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Just tell me a bit about the 
centre that you've got here. 

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The boat is our main attraction 
and then the centre serves teas,

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coffees, ice creams and we've 
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Oh, we've got a little 
exhibition. 

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So we're at the, the part of the
canal where it's sort of back in

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water after the, after the, the 
break in the canal. 

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That's right, there's water all 
the way well to Newtown, really,

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but it's not navigable. 
And you've got a trip boat and 

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it it just does this little bit 
up and up and down here. 

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Yes, yes, 1/2 hour trip children
love it. 

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They don't get bored do they? 
There's always something to say 

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if it's only a more N or two. 
But you've had quite a difficult

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year this year because of the 
lack of. 

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Water. 
Oh yes, yes, we had a bit of 

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trouble last year, but nothing 
like this. 

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We're completely just sitting on
the bottom. 

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So the two miles between here 
and where it's in water properly

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and navigable, Yeah. 
How long do you think it's going

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to take them to sort that out? 
Well, they always see it 10 

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years, but they've been seeing 
10 years for the last 10 years 

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probably. 
I mean, they are making some 

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good progress. 
Well, they are making really 

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good progress. 
So are you hopeful that you'll 

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see it all in water one day? 
I'm hoping I will see boats 

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sailing past my garden. 
And that's all from the lovely 

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Montgomery Canal and almost all 
for this series of The Water Rd.

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